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Wednesday_hi all09:32
Wednesday_anyone got 2 mins for a noob?09:32
Wednesday_I've just built 2 ubuntu 12.04 servers both with 2 NIC's, just wanted to ask which is the best install doc to follow for a 2 node install of openstack + quantum?09:33
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dguitarbitechk this otu09:40
dguitarbitehttp://docs.openstack.org/folsom/openstack-network/admin/content/ch_install.html09:40
dguitarbite*out09:40
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Wednesday_will do, thanks09:58
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Wednesday_that seems to be mainly for Quantum? I was hoping to find an end to end guide for 2 node install for full controller, compute and network?10:00
Wednesday_i'm usually pretty good with googling but not found quite what I'm looking for10:01
Wednesday_i've been looking at this http://docs.openstack.org/folsom/basic-install/content/basic-install_requirements.html10:03
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Wednesday_can I just build with 2 node, 2 nic's and have the data network on virtual nics?10:04
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dguitarbitechk this out10:05
dguitarbiteV10:05
dguitarbitehttps://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Folsom-Install-guide/blob/master/OpenStack_Folsom_Install_Guide_WebVersion.rst10:05
dguitarbitethis is an end to end guide10:05
dguitarbitefor two nodes I think you can merge the network node and controller node, but someone please confirm this.10:06
dguitarbiteotherwise you can also make one of the nodes a VM using Virtual Box and make the networks connect via bridged connections.10:06
nikitozhi guys, anyone with openstack + XCP Pool experience here?10:06
Wednesday_thanks dguitar, i'll take a look10:07
Wednesday_one last question, i'm wanting to get my head around the network ranges as I have no real IP10:07
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Wednesday_can I hvae the managment network on say 10.1.1.x and external/api on 192.168.0.x which is my range that can route to teh internet10:08
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dguitarbiteyes11:15
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dguitarbiteyou can have your own network ip address, but you will need to change the IP address in all the related configuration files11:15
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Wednesday_anyone alive?11:51
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Wednesday_just wondering how people generally find the docs from mseknibile ?11:52
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dguitarbitegoogle or github search ... or mailing lists11:55
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Wednesday_ sry dguitar, I mean how did people find the in the sense of quality12:01
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Wednesday_i've just started the one you suggested12:01
Wednesday_in the api paste ini section it uses the ip address 192.168.100.23212:02
Wednesday_https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Folsom-Install-guide/blob/master/Tricks%26Ideas/install_nova-network.rst12:02
Wednesday_but I do not see any other mention of that range12:02
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Wednesday_just getting a bit frustrated, it seems there are no clear docs for 2 node 2 nic install12:05
Wednesday_is it maybe safer to follow the offical docs and work it out the hard way?12:05
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antonycan any1 assist me setting up 2 nodes / 2 nic install with nova-network? I do can start instances but cannot reach it. Followed many docs but with no luck (12:13
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Wednesday_ antony12:16
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Wednesday_not sure if this helps, but I'm having the same prob :)12:16
Wednesday_hope it helps that you do not feel alone :012:16
Wednesday_:)12:16
antonyWednesday_ thx, it much better now. :)12:16
Wednesday_which is the main doc you followed?12:16
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antonywell, I started from oficial one: http://docs.openstack.org/folsom/basic-install/content/, after that tried this one: https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Folsom-Install-guide/blob/master/Tricks%26Ideas/install_nova-network.rst12:19
antonyWednesday_ I see you used the same way =)12:19
Wednesday_aye12:20
Wednesday_gets a bit annoying12:20
Wednesday_because after each failed biuld i wipe ubuntu and reinstall12:20
Wednesday_because i've not setup clonezilla yet12:20
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Wednesday_I might just go and buy another nic to save anymore wasting time12:21
antonyI have 4NICs but only 2 servers12:22
antonyand I think that main problem is with br100 interface12:22
Wednesday_I suspect the docs sometimes miss out key pieces of the puzzle and you need to work it out12:24
Wednesday_i got 2 servers, 2 nics in each12:24
Wednesday_i'm goinna wipe again and go back to main install doc12:24
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Wednesday_@Ant - I'm going to try and follow this one http://docs.openstack.org/folsom/basic-install/content/basic-install_requirements.html12:29
antonyWednesday_ this one is 3 nodes setup12:30
Wednesday_and use eth0:1 on servers for management nic12:30
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Wednesday_and bundle maybe compute and network onto the same host12:30
Wednesday_I'll doc it and if it works post up it somewhere12:30
antonyWednesday_ let me know if you will success12:31
Wednesday_sure12:31
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estevaoHessHpHEllo everyone, i'm not sure i'm in the correct Channel, however, my doubt is regarding the Keystone V3 adoption for Glance, Nova, Quantum, cinde, etc... who could provide me more info regarding to that?13:03
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otwieraczHello.13:24
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Wednesday_sorry in advance if this pastes incorrectly.......13:42
Wednesday_folsom-controllerops-contr01eth0:_192.168.0.100eth1_10.1.1.1013:43
Wednesday_folsom-networkops-compu01eth0:_192.168.0.101eth1_10.1.1.11eth1:1_10.10.10.1113:43
zxvffi accept your apology13:43
Wednesday_folsom-computeops-compu01eth0:1_192.168.0.102eth1:2_10.1.1.12eth1:3_10.10.10.1213:43
Wednesday_thanks13:43
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Wednesday_anyone know of that IP allocation would work follwing the 3 node install using 2 nodes with 2 nics each?13:44
Wednesday_i missed the top line done13:44
Wednesday_doh*13:44
Wednesday_ServernameExternal Network + APIManagement NetworkData Network13:44
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Wednesday_that is the top13:44
Wednesday_hmm doesnt really work in irc, i guess I'll just have to suck it and see13:44
kashyapHien, does this appear like a bug - http://www.fpaste.org/1nS4/13:45
kashyapI erroneously added a security rule for  ICMP with port 22 (icmp doesn't run on ports :) ) , and now I can't delete the rule using existing syntax13:45
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zxvffWednesday_: i'm not really sure13:50
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zxvffalso your paste is hard for me to read13:50
zxvffi believe it should probably work, as i am running a single node installation with everything but quantum on a machine with 1 NIC13:51
zxvffit has 2, but the 2nd is not configured13:51
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bodenhi ayoung -- got a sec for a quick question?15:29
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ayoungboden, sure15:30
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bodenayoung -- was just catching up on some grizzly content, and trying to understand the difference between remote authN (a la REMOTE_USER) and pluggable authN... is the assumption that external authN (REMOTE_USER) is for other apps 'fronting' keystone vs pluggable authN for integrating in keystone with other apps for authN?15:31
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ayoungboden, REMOTE_USER if for wsgi auth coming from the web server, if you run keystone in Apache HTTPD15:32
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ayoungplugabble is managed completely by Keystone15:32
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bodenayoung -- ok thanks... as noted in the docs REMOTE_USER could still be used for external authN in the keystone pipeline, but likely with pluggable authN its not as useful15:33
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ayoungboden, I would disagree.  But thenm I was against pluggable auth.  I want to move to Apache HTTPD by default.15:34
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bodenayoung -- not following what you disagree with... you saying REMOTE_USER should NOT be used for external authN in with keystone (pipeline) middleware15:35
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ayoungboden, if you are using Apache to do auth, you need REMOTE_USER15:35
ayoungI want to stop running in Eventlet15:35
bodenunderstand REMOTE_USER for httpd, my question was more about using REMOTE_USER for custom middleware that does remote authN15:36
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ayoungboden, yeah, that is not what it was designed for15:38
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ayoungso pluggable is the way to go for custom auth15:38
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bodenayoung -- clean now, thx for time15:38
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BMDanIs there a brilliant way of which I'm not aware to inject bootargs?  e.g., "init=/bin/bash" or similar?  I've got an image (on a volume, naturally, so I can't "rescue") for which I don't have the root password, and it's refusing to boot with keys for some reason.15:42
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krui_Hi everyone! When I do a "nova-manage service list", some of my compute nodes are down. But nothing seems to be wrong in the logs present at /var/log/nova on the controller or the compute node. Is there any other place for logs that I'm missing?15:49
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dolphmayoung: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/116285715:55
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ayoungdolphm, revert to v2?15:55
ayoungInteresting15:55
ayoungsqlalchemy15:55
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ayoungdolphm, wasn't that something termie was battling?  He was running the tests15:56
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dolphmayoung: i was under the impression that was an issue in the test framework starting wsgi services non-stop15:57
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dolphmayoung: this is against a single running service15:57
ayoungdolphm, I never got the root cause15:57
dolphmayoung: related, from the mailing list w/ mysql https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/116284515:57
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dolphmi haven't reproduced that yet -- i'm standing up keystone + mysql outside of devstack to verify it15:58
ayoungdolphm, my guess is that PKI changes the timing somehow using the popen, but that the issue is due to the DB connection pooling.15:58
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dolphmayoung: yeah, i'm not sure how related they are yet15:59
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ayoung'Too many connections'  may mean jsut what it says.   I don't know the sqlalchemy configuration for coneection pooling, but I suspect we are not rate limiting that15:59
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ayoungdolphm, I wonder if that is related to what dkranz saw with the number of parallel requests limited to 16?16:00
dolphmyou mean 1?16:00
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BMDankrui_: I noticed that after a Grizzly point-release upgrade; perhaps you, as I did, have both "a" and "a.foo.com" entries?  If so, the "a.foo.com" entries won't update any more.16:01
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ayoungdolphm, yeah...that whole limit might keep Keystone from falling over...It was like 16 / second or something?16:01
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BMDan(Repeat of earlier question) Is there a brilliant way of which I'm not aware to inject bootargs?  e.g., "init=/bin/bash" or similar?  I've got an image (on a volume, naturally, so I can't "rescue") for which I don't have the root password, and it's refusing to boot with keys for some reason.16:01
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dolphmoh, per second .. yeah, that's like 6 / second on my laptop16:02
dolphm10 with uuid16:02
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krui_BMDan: I'm on Essex, but are you talking about the entries in the database?16:04
krui_status update happens periodically, but its still down16:04
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lyra77http://xteensx.info/young-amateur-czech-couple-very-hot-sex-scene/16:12
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devoid1krui_ have these nodes worked in the past? Clock skew might put into XXX state. Try a NTP update?16:13
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estevaoHessHp(Repeat of earlier question) HEllo everyone, i'm not sure i'm in the correct Channel, however, my doubt is regarding the Keystone V3 adoption for Glance, Nova, Quantum, cinde, etc... who could provide me more info regarding to that?16:15
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krui1devoid1: thanks! the time was off by a minute on one of the servers. Its working fine now! :)16:35
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devoid1krui1: excellent!16:36
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jlondonHey all, is there a recommended partition size for local instance storage for each compute server? I didn't realize instance data was stored entirely locally rather than to nova-volumes (unless you boot off of a volume), and ran out of /var space :P16:37
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jlondonI'm thinking maybe a terabyte?16:40
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Kialljlondon: it depends really..16:47
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KiallIf you run 10x VMs per node, and each VM gets 10GB, then ~100GB is enough .. but if you run more, or with larger disk sizes... the requirements change :)16:47
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jlondonKiall: Yeah, fair enough. I think given the processors on these machines I should be able to manage somewhere around 30 VM/box.16:48
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jlondonKiall: I guess that's a good way to look at it then... appox instance data * instance count.16:49
KiallOkay, So then you look at the defined flavors - each flavor has 2x disk sizes, both of those will be in /var/lib/nova/instances*16:49
Kiallas will the downloaded base images etc from glance16:49
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KiallOnce you know what all those numbers are, it's easier to pick a size :)16:50
jlondonKiall: Hmm, k. I was not aware that the actual images were being cached as well.16:50
KiallAlso .. LVM is your friend, since you can add disks and resize the volume16:50
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jlondonKiall: Indeed. Thankfully I am using LVM, but... I also want to not set the /var volume too large and crowd out the nova-volumes.16:51
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KiallYea - the /var/lib/nova volume can live in the same volume group as nova-volume BTW16:52
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jlondonKiall: And it is currently that way.16:52
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jlondonKiall: Each machine has ~6TB storage, so what I'm saying is I was trying to change the var size to something higher, but not unreasonably high so there's space left in the group for nova-volume.16:53
KiallAh - Then yea, I'd set it to some figure that is (expected instances * disk per instance) + 20%, and you can expand if necessary :)16:53
jlondon:)16:53
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jlondonThankya for the suggestions!16:54
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jlondonYep, just did the math... Looks like about 800GB so I'll default it to 1TB just to be safe.17:00
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haosdentHi, I have trouble with floatingip.17:09
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haosdentAfter I associate floatingip to instance, the instance couldn't ping 8.8.8.8.17:09
haosdentBut when I delete floatingip of instance, it works well.17:10
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jlondonhaosdent: Is your network card in promisc mode?17:19
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jsindyis there a way to put a compute node into a maintenance mode? so no new instances are spawn on it?!17:29
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racker_KevinSjsindy: nova-manage service disable --host=<host> --service=nova-compute17:34
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devoidracker_KevinS, a related question: how do I add an additional nova-compute node to the service list and have it start in disabled mode?17:37
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racker_KevinSdevoid: I'm not sure if there's a way to have a node check in in a disabled state…17:43
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jsindy_racker_KevinS: the current running VMs will stay running?17:45
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racker_KevinSjsindy_: that's right17:45
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jsindy_thanks racker_KevinS17:46
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resonattiI am unable to get my fresh install of multinode folsom to launch instances on ubuntu 12.1017:57
jlondonresonatti: Logs?17:57
resonattifrom horizon the instance status reports error17:57
resonattiand I am unable to track that field down in any logs17:58
resonattifrom the controller node which should I be looking at?17:58
jlondonresonatti: Look in /var/log/nova logs on the controller.17:58
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resonattihttp://paste.openstack.org/show/35060/18:00
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BMDan(Repeat of earlier question) Is there a brilliant way of which I'm not aware to inject bootargs into grub?  e.g., "init=/bin/bash" or similar?  I've got an image (on a volume, naturally, so I can't "rescue") for which I don't have the root password, and it's refusing to boot with keys for some reason.18:01
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jlondonresonatti: No errors in that log entry. Errors should be pretty easy to spot. Keep looking. Also look in logs on compute nodes. Might be different errors there if it's getting 'beyond' the controller.18:02
resonattido you know a way I can test the networking end of the setup from the controllers view?18:03
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jlondonresonatti: Not entirely sure what you mean in this case.18:04
resonattiI am unsure that I ever completed the install correctly, I had to add a few steps into the guide that were missing relating the the ovs bridge so I really don't know if that is evebn up18:04
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resonattiie ping from the controller node through the bridge to the compute node.18:04
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jlondonAh. If this is your first openstack install you might want to start out without ovs/quantum and use nova-network until you are more familiar with the system/setup.18:05
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jlondonThat's a whole other ballgame to get ovs/quantum working.18:05
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jlondonMan.. it sure takes a long time for cloudify to start.18:19
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resonattijlondon,  In looking at the quantum logs on the compute-node.  There is only one log taking any action and it seems internal, looks like this;  openvswich-agent.log - DEBUG [quantum.agent.linux.utils] running command sudo /usr/bin/quantum-rootwrap or root-wrap.conf ovs-vsct; ==timeout=2 list-ports br-int18:29
Hackman238Hey all18:29
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resonattiand it seems to be repeating with Exit code: stdout stderr18:29
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Hackman238I've been searching over docs but I can't seem to figure out how to enable nova api authentication in folsom. Thoughts on a good doc to refer to?18:31
Hackman238Using 'keystone-manage credentials' to add the EC2 creds looks like it's not supported anymore18:31
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supakudo I absolutely need to run on LVM for cinder to work?18:40
BMDansupaku: I am not running LVM.18:40
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BMDan(And Cinder works.)18:40
jlondonresonatti: Well, do you have sudo access for the user quantum is running as?18:41
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supakuBMDan: thanks, I have LVM installed, so it can create LVM partitions out of files for cinder, but I was reading a guide and it mentioned your root should be LVM18:41
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Shri*oops.. sorry! wrong window18:42
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resonattijlondon, I have not added any users for any of the os services, do they all need user accounts?19:26
jlondonresonatti: Well, do you have nova-network running as root?19:27
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ShriI'm debugging a tempurl problem. I see that QUERY_STRING is not set in the 'env' dictionary when call comes into tempurl.py. Any ideas?19:33
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Madkisswill the keystone 2.0 api continue to exist even in post-folsom-keystone?19:49
Madkissi see there is a 3.0 api, but will this change render 2.0 clients unusable?19:49
dolphmMadkiss: yes, it will be supported at least until H+119:50
dolphmMadkiss: and no, they both run side by side19:50
Madkissawesome, thanks19:50
Madkissthat's uber-cool19:50
dolphmv2 has some constraints given the introduction of v3, however19:50
dolphmMadkiss: the biggest of which is that v3 allows you to create multiple domains -- only the first one will work on v219:50
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Madkissmultiple domains, ahum.19:51
dolphmMadkiss: and db_sync will create a "default" domain for you19:51
dolphmMadkiss: which is exposed by v219:51
Madkissokay. Do we ha19:51
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Madkissve any general statement on the availability of an upgrade-path between folsom and grizzly?19:53
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jlondonWow, the newer versions of Cloudify+openstack work surprisingly well together.19:59
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nikitozhi guys, have anyone encountered this bug with live migration on XCP ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/116297321:00
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ShriIs it possible for the swift command line client to use tempUrls?21:02
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quesoTrying to upload an image and got an error. Any idea what's wrong? http://dpaste.com/1043440/  Thanks.21:41
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quesoOh, nevermind . . running out of space on my workstation. :(21:49
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jackfengHello, I have three compute nodes connected by nova-network.  They all run on RedHat RHEL 6.3 Servers with two nics, one for public and another for private non-routable network.  I am able to provision VMs, acquire IP addresses from non-routable network and associate public IP addresses taken from floating IP pool.  But I can't ping VMs I provisioned until I restart iptable servers on the...23:21
jackfeng...hosting compute node of the VMs.  It seems to me that iptables has been modified but the modification didn't quite take effect until restart of the iptables service.  Here is an excerpt of my nova.config:23:21
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jackfengdhcpbridge = /usr/bin/nova-dhcpbridge23:21
jackfengdhcpbridge_flagfile = /etc/nova/nova.conf23:21
jackfengforce_dhcp_release = True23:21
jackfenginjected_network_template = /usr/share/nova/interfaces.template23:21
jackfenglibvirt_nonblocking = True23:21
jackfenglibvirt_inject_partition = -123:21
jackfengnetwork_manager = nova.network.manager.FlatDHCPManager23:21
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jackfengDid anyone encounter this behavior?   I am not sure if this is a feature, bug or limitation of nova-network.  It just does not seem practical to restart iptables in order to expose VMs to the network.  I am hoping to find a way which allows the update to iptables to take effect automatically.  Thanks in advance.23:21
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