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| Guest18044 | Can OpenStack automatically migrate from one node to another in a failover condition? | 00:12 |
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| evanjfraser | Guest18044: I don't believe so | 00:14 |
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| evanjfraser | there might be something about it in the High Availability docs | 00:14 |
| evanjfraser | usually if you're using cloud services, your VM's and Applications are designed to cope with failure Guest18044 | 00:15 |
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| Guest18044 | There's mention of corosync, but it's quite technical- no overview | 00:17 |
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| Guest18044 | I wish my nick worked, sorry to make you type guestfoo | 00:17 |
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| Guest18044 | ok- thanks everyone | 00:19 |
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| vrturbo | HI All, does your novnc address in nova.conf need to be public ip when connecting from the internet to horizon dash ? | 01:46 |
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| tangyi | hello,every one,i have problem,why has the created_at time of openstack db less than 8 hours,relative my timezone。sorry, my english is terrbile :( | 02:17 |
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| sandeepr | !ping jamespage | 02:56 |
| openstack | pong | 02:56 |
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| sandeepr | jamespage, yes there is a proxy between the my system and the cloud archive | 02:56 |
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| jamespage | sandeepr, the .deb in the archive is OK _ it might be that your cache has got a corrupt copy somehow | 06:24 |
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| dignus | openstack rap ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KHqzTBPQYl8 - thought it was funny :) | 06:59 |
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| sandeepr | jamespage, thanks for confirming the .deb is ok in the archive. | 07:11 |
| sandeepr | jamespage, the autoclean and clean should have taken care of the cache issue? any thoughts how to get past this? | 07:12 |
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| ramonskie | anyone here that can help me out? i cant connect from one vm to the other with its floating ip address | 07:41 |
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| evanjfraser | hi ramonskie | 07:48 |
| ramonskie | hi | 07:49 |
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| evanjfraser | I don't expect to be able to fix your problem, but do you have any more details? | 07:49 |
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| evanjfraser | what version openstack are you using? | 07:49 |
| evanjfraser | is there anything relevant in the logs showing up? | 07:49 |
| ramonskie | i'm using grizzly and i can't find anything rellevant in the logs :( | 07:51 |
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| ramonskie | from outside openstack i can ping and connect to the vm. i also can connect the outside world from the vm | 07:51 |
| ramonskie | i also can't ping its own floating ip address | 07:52 |
| evanjfraser | interesting | 07:52 |
| ramonskie | yup it is its a strange problem | 07:52 |
| evanjfraser | so from outside openstack, you're able to connect to the vm via its floating ip? | 07:52 |
| evanjfraser | but not from vm to vm via floating ips? | 07:53 |
| ramonskie | yup thats correct | 07:53 |
| evanjfraser | okay | 07:53 |
| ramonskie | i have found a few issues regarding to ping its own floating ip address but that was a bug long time resolved in folsom a year ago | 07:54 |
| evanjfraser | seems strange indeed | 07:55 |
| evanjfraser | the vm obviously has a default route, otherwise it couldn't connect to the outside world | 07:56 |
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| evanjfraser | do you get anywhere with traceroute? | 07:56 |
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| ramonskie | not done yet | 07:58 |
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| melmoth | evanjfraser, look for the packet in each steps (particularly what s going on from the node running nova-network). | 07:59 |
| melmoth | pay special attention to the source address. | 07:59 |
| evanjfraser | melmoth: heya, its ramonskie with the problem :) | 07:59 |
| evanjfraser | thanks for helping him | 07:59 |
| melmoth | check it has actually been changed to the floating ip matching the right nova-network node | 07:59 |
| ramonskie | how can i do that | 08:00 |
| melmoth | ramonskie, if you are using single host mode, there is a setting in nova.conf to tell what source ip to use | 08:00 |
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| melmoth | you can check the packet with tcpdump | 08:00 |
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| sunuslee | how to list all nova-compute nodes in my network? | 08:00 |
| melmoth | sudo nova-manage service list i guess | 08:01 |
| sunuslee | i have one controller and two compute node, don't know how to check them | 08:01 |
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| ramonskie | okay i can't do a normal tcpdump i get so much packeges and i'm not even pinging to the other vm | 08:15 |
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| ramonskie | i alos want to tell that i can ping and connect from vm to vm with its fixed ip addresses | 08:15 |
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| melmoth | you can filter stuff with tcpdump, as well as record stuff in a file (-w ) and read and dig in it later with wireshark | 08:19 |
| ramonskie | okay i did a tcpdump on vnet2 the vm that is connect to this interface and i see packages so it is going to the compute node | 08:19 |
| melmoth | on each involved machine, check the souce and destination address. i bet there something not normal going on when the packet get out of th enova-network node | 08:20 |
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| ramonskie | okay so the compute node receives the message. but there is no packet comming in on the other vm | 08:27 |
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| sandeepr | !ping jamespage | 08:54 |
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| openstack | pong | 08:54 |
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| Akkadius | ping | 09:03 |
| Akkadius | !ping | 09:04 |
| openstack | pong | 09:04 |
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| Akkadius | !ping Akkadius | 09:04 |
| openstack | pong | 09:04 |
| Akkadius | lol | 09:04 |
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| Akkadius | !ping openstack | 09:06 |
| openstack | pong | 09:06 |
| Akkadius | !ping yourmother | 09:06 |
| openstack | pong | 09:06 |
| Akkadius | wtf | 09:06 |
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| ReneM | hey, where is the option to change the default gateway of the VMs? | 09:08 |
| ReneM | up to now there stand this in the routing table | 09:08 |
| ReneM | 0.0.0.0 192.168.128.254 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 | 09:08 |
| ReneM | but I never set it up, I think | 09:09 |
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| melmoth | ReneM, the gateway (for a vm) i supposed to be the ip on the fixed netowrk associated with nova-network. I guess you can chage it with the gateway flag in nova.conf | 09:14 |
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| ReneM | melmoth: k, i try it later | 09:16 |
| melmoth | i never had to change it though. | 09:16 |
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| ReneM | and can connect to the internet from the VMs? | 09:17 |
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| melmoth | yep | 09:17 |
| ReneM | kk | 09:17 |
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| melmoth | that s why the gateway is set to wherever nova-networks runs on. | 09:17 |
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| koolhead17 | melmoth: | 09:39 |
| melmoth | hola koolhead17 | 09:40 |
| koolhead17 | melmoth: how are things? | 09:40 |
| melmoth | calm. | 09:40 |
| koolhead17 | melmoth: how come? | 09:40 |
| melmoth | no trip , staying at home. spring sunshine | 09:41 |
| melmoth | all that sort of stuff :) | 09:41 |
| koolhead17 | melmoth: aah that way. cool. | 09:41 |
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| koolhead17 | melmoth: how is juju/grizzly deployment coming up? | 09:42 |
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| melmoth | koolhead17, i gave it a try yesterday, but looks like the charm i m using do not know about grizzly (yet) | 09:45 |
| koolhead17 | melmoth: hmm. | 09:45 |
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| Diganta | Hi all | 10:12 |
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| linux12 | I'm getting " The service catalog is empty." error while use create or glace index command | 10:29 |
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| linux12 | any clue | 10:29 |
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| dmi | hey all -- tearing my hair out over some odd dnsmasq behaviour | 10:34 |
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| dmi | it never seems to refresh its idea of which MAC addresses it can assign IPs to | 10:45 |
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| linux12 | I'm getting " The service catalog is empty." error while use create or glace index command please help | 10:46 |
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| dmi | linux12: what happens if you do "keystone service-list"? | 10:47 |
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| linux12 | getting output with WARNING: Bypassing authentication using a token & endpoint (authentication credentials are being ignored). | 10:48 |
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| ramonskie | melmoth: you there? | 10:49 |
| dmi | linux12: and the output of "export | grep -F OS_ | grep -Fv PASSWORD"? | 10:49 |
| dmi | linux12: when you say "getting output", do you mean you see a list of services? | 10:49 |
| linux12 | yes i can see services | 10:50 |
| melmoth | ramonskie, yep | 10:51 |
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| dmi | linux12: is there an image service listed? | 10:51 |
| ramonskie | this is what i get when http://paste.openstack.org/show/36535/ when i look for the ip addres that i'm pinging on my nova-network node | 10:51 |
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| linux12 | yes glance is listed | 10:52 |
| dmi | linux12: can you copy/paste the output to http://paste.openstack.org please? | 10:53 |
| melmoth | ramonskie, if both source and dest are all right,and you dont see any packet reply, then it s a routing problem on the current node, is it not ? | 10:53 |
| melmoth | (i am assuming this has been taken on the 172.21.42.130 host) | 10:54 |
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| dmi | linux12: also, can you please prefix messages with my nickname? I'm doing other things, and if you do that it'll notify me when you reply :) | 10:54 |
| ramonskie | no the 42.130 is the floating ip i try to reach from a different vm | 10:55 |
| melmoth | well, follow the track. | 10:55 |
| melmoth | just do the same on each invovled node | 10:56 |
| melmoth | untill you spot the error | 10:56 |
| melmoth | either a wrong source / s | 10:56 |
| melmoth | dest | 10:56 |
| melmoth | or a packet not going wherever it s supposed to go based on it s destination | 10:56 |
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| ramonskie | i did this on compute node and then on the nova-network node and my quess on the network node it should return the address to the apporiate private address right? | 10:57 |
| ramonskie | because of the firewall rules it creates automaticly | 10:57 |
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| melmoth | nova-network take care of snating any outgoing packet yep. | 10:58 |
| ramonskie | so the packet is received by the network node and now it should return | 10:58 |
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| melmoth | as i said, th eonly way for you to track this down is to check at each steps, where is the packet you are interested in. and check if whatever nat shoul dhave been done, bave been | 10:59 |
| melmoth | anyway food time | 11:00 |
| ramonskie | okay thanks | 11:01 |
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| linux12 | dmi my output and bashrc here http://paste.openstack.org/show/36536/ | 11:01 |
| jamespage | sandeepr, still around? | 11:02 |
| dmi | linux12: try a new shell without SERVICE_ENDPOINT and SERVICE_TOKEN defined | 11:03 |
| dmi | you shouldn't need those, afaik | 11:03 |
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| linux12 | I'm getting Unable to authorize user | 11:06 |
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| tavasti | Is it possible to create network shared with multiple tenants? System is folsom with nova-network | 11:16 |
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| linux12 | IU'm following https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/master/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst | 11:34 |
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| ReneM | What must I do that the VMs have internet access? I've FlatDHCP with nova-network, 2 NICs and floating IPs running.. I think its some misconfiguration in nova.conf | 11:54 |
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| Diganta | hi is there anyone can give me support on openstack installation | 12:04 |
| Diganta | ? | 12:04 |
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| uictamale | Hey everyone, if I'm having problems with the user setup script form field saying "There was an error submitting your form", would any of you happen to know the common causes of that? | 12:11 |
| uictamale | Far as I know, I'm not putting anything special in that form outside of the usual bash script characters like ${} and whatnot. | 12:11 |
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| mynameisdeleted | anyone familiar with quantum? | 12:15 |
| mynameisdeleted | and assigning ips to instances? | 12:15 |
| sunuslee | one of my nova-compute can not get up, how to debugg? | 12:16 |
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| flask11_ | Hi everybody.. When using nova-managenova -h | 12:17 |
| sunuslee | nova-compute OS-Server-2 nova enabled XXX 2013-04-23 08:54:49 that's what i got nova-manage service list | 12:17 |
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| flask11_ | Hi everybody.. When using nova-manage, I got import errors such as : CRITICAL nova [-] cannot import name AddConstraint or CRITICAL nova [req-ae1ccf06-c205-41aa-bd5c-e7241414c456 None None] cannot import name BigInteger | 12:18 |
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| flask11_ | can someone help? | 12:18 |
| sunuslee | flask11_: it should be a problem with python | 12:19 |
| flask11_ | I am using CentOs 6.3 | 12:19 |
| s2r2 | btw, anyone got CentOS 6.4 openstack-ready images? | 12:20 |
| flask11_ | sunuslee: Yeah I know, but all compoenents worked yesterday and since this morning, I have this kind of errors | 12:20 |
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| sunuslee | flask11_: run python and import BigInteger , do you got any errors? | 12:22 |
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| ReneM | What must I do that the VMs have internet access? I've FlatDHCP with nova-network, 2 NICs and floating IPs running.. I think its some misconfiguration in nova.conf | 12:22 |
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| flask11_ | sunuslee: it says No module named BigInteger | 12:23 |
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| flask11_ | sunuslee: where can I find it? | 12:24 |
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| sunuslee | flaper87: then~ you got ur problem found:) | 12:25 |
| flaper87 | flask11_: ^ | 12:26 |
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| sunuslee | flask11_: from sqlalchemy import Column, BigInteger | 12:26 |
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| sunuslee | flask11_: try that , from sqlalchemy import BigInteger | 12:26 |
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| flask11_ | sunuslee: ImportError: cannot import name BigInteger | 12:27 |
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| flask11_ | sunuslee: I am using centos 6.3 | 12:27 |
| sunuslee | flask11_: the new sqlalchemy has biginterger | 12:28 |
| sunuslee | flask11_: try to update ur python's sqlalchemy library | 12:28 |
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| flask11_ | sunuslee: the sqlalchemy library is updated and still have the same problem | 12:45 |
| mynameisdeleted | so.. grizzly supports a network of mixed hypervisor types? | 12:45 |
| mynameisdeleted | horizon doenst support pickign a hypervisor, but maybe the api does | 12:45 |
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| sunuslee | flask11_: :( are u sure? can u import biginterger now? | 12:48 |
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| sunuslee | flask11_: my sqlalchemy version is 0.7.8 | 12:50 |
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| flask11_ | sunuslee: now from python I can import BigInteger | 12:52 |
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| flask11_ | sunuslee: but still have the same problem | 12:52 |
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| sunuslee | flask11_: how the log said now? | 12:54 |
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| flask11_ | sunuslee: now it needs AddConstraint | 12:55 |
| sunuslee | still python problem> | 12:55 |
| sunuslee | ? | 12:55 |
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| flask11_ | sunuslee: yes, quite strange, because yesterday I hadn.t this | 12:57 |
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| sunuslee | flask11_: i do found the class AddConstraint in my sqlalchemy liarbry | 12:58 |
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| sunuslee | flask11_: usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/sqlalchemy/schema.py:3134:class AddConstraint(_CreateDropBase): | 12:58 |
| sunuslee | flask11_: you should have something like this? | 12:59 |
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| sunuslee | flask11_: from sqlalchemy.schema import AddConstraint should get no errors | 12:59 |
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| flask11_ | sunuslee: no problem with this point | 13:00 |
| flask11_ | sunuslee I think I sould restart my services | 13:00 |
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| sunuslee | flask11_: give it a try | 13:01 |
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| flask11_ | sunuslee: The same issue | 13:04 |
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| sandeepr | jamespage, yes just reached home. | 13:09 |
| jamespage | sandeepr, I suspect the .deb file in the cache between you and the cloud-archive is corrupt | 13:09 |
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| sunuslee | flask11_: still need AddConstraint ? | 13:10 |
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| jamespage | sandeepr, if you can get the cache flushed | 13:10 |
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| sandeepr | jamespage, how do i flush the cache. i know of only apt-get clean and autoclean | 13:18 |
| jamespage | sandeepr, that only flushes your local disk cache | 13:18 |
| jamespage | sandeepr, you need to get the network cache between your servers and the cloud archive flushed | 13:19 |
| jamespage | sandeepr, fwiw caching infront of an Ubuntu archive is non-trivial | 13:19 |
| flask11_ | sunuslee: yes, still need AddConstraint and BigInteger too | 13:20 |
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| sunuslee | flask11_: i start to think you might have multi python installation and the one that openstack uses is wrong | 13:23 |
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| flask11_ | sunuslee: but all other components work except nova | 13:23 |
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| sunuslee | flask11_: are you using folsom? | 13:25 |
| flask11_ | sunuslee: yes | 13:25 |
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| zynzel | hello! | 13:26 |
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| sunuslee | flask11_: what the log tell? exactly? | 13:28 |
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| sandeepr | jamespage, i'm back. i did another thing. downloaded the glance-api from the cloud archive. since it needed glance-common and pything glance installed them manually. | 13:28 |
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| sandeepr | jamespage, then when i started glance-api it failed. | 13:28 |
| sunuslee | flask11_: and which python file raise that exception? | 13:28 |
| flask11_ | sunuslee: the log of nova-api http://paste.openstack.org/show/36538/ | 13:29 |
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| sandeepr | jamespage, http://paste.openstack.org/show/36539/ | 13:30 |
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| sandeepr | so this is a manual download and install which fails. does this not eliminate the cache issue? | 13:31 |
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| flask11_ | sunuslee: the log of nova-scheduler http://paste.openstack.org/show/36540/ | 13:32 |
| sandeepr | jamespage, when i used the default archive manager to open the .deb it failed. i had to use xarchiver to open the .deb file | 13:32 |
| sunuslee | flask11_: how many pythons do you have? | 13:34 |
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| flask11_ | sunuslee: one python | 13:38 |
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| jamespage | sandeepr, and you only see this issue with packages from the cloud-archive? | 13:40 |
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| sunuslee | flask11_: 2.6? | 13:41 |
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| kbringard | is anyone else seeing issues with noVNC and Folsom? | 13:42 |
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| flask11_ | sunuslee: yes and i AM USING CENT OS 6.3 | 13:43 |
| kbringard | it looks like it negotiates the VNC protocol version, but then just hangs there | 13:43 |
| kbringard | my gut tells me it's a websockify issue | 13:43 |
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| sunuslee | flask11_: that really strange | 13:44 |
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| sunuslee | flask11_: did you check the source of sqlchemy if it has those class or not? | 13:45 |
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| sandeepr | i have installed keystone which seemed ok | 13:46 |
| sandeepr | after that is glance which is failing | 13:46 |
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| flask11_ | sunuslee: Yeah I checked it | 13:46 |
| sandeepr | jamespage, only glance so far | 13:46 |
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| sunuslee | flask11_: :( sorry, then i really don't know what's wrong with that:< | 13:48 |
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| sunuslee | flask11_: i think fedora can uses CentOS's packages but don't really sure about Centos use fedora's package | 13:49 |
| sandeepr | jamespage, because of glance failure i'm blocked and not been able to test other packages | 13:49 |
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| flask11_ | sunuslee: what I don't understand is that it works till this morning | 13:50 |
| jamespage | sandeepr, its not something crazy like you are out of disk space locally? | 13:52 |
| sunuslee | flask11_: what magic did u do? | 13:52 |
| sunuslee | flask11_: are you a time traveler? | 13:52 |
| sandeepr | jamespage, no i have sufficient disk space | 13:53 |
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| flask11_ | sunuslee: no idea lool | 13:53 |
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| dcparker | can anyone help with what i think is a pretty easy question? | 14:05 |
| zxvff | it depends, was that the question? | 14:05 |
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| ArKam | zxvff: +10 | 14:05 |
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| dcparker | i have an existing openstack environment that has reached its capacity. i have a new env i want to transfer the running instances to. i tried uploading the snapshots with glance but that didnt work. i read something about having to commit the snapshot to the base image but couldnt figure that out either. any tips or suggestions on moving existing instances to a new (same version) of openstack? | 14:07 |
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| ArKam | Hi everyone, for internal purpose, I've been asked to develop a new driver/backend/whatever its need, to be able to use our OpenStack with MongoDB instead of MySQL, could you help me to find necessary documentation related to this topic? | 14:08 |
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| annegentle | dcparker: check out http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-ops/content/maintenance.html#compute_node_failures | 14:09 |
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| e-vad_ | anyone up for doing a post summit podcast tonight? 8P CST? | 14:11 |
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| dcparker | annegentle: thanks. will do | 14:12 |
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| javsalgar | is it possible to export a snapshot to other Openstack installation as an image? | 14:13 |
| zynzel | javsalgar: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/replicating-images.html | 14:14 |
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| Teduardo | Hey all, still trying to get openstack dashboard to work; does anyone know what is going on in this log entry? http://pastebin.com/2iJWnK06 it looks like its trying to connect to two different endpoints and getting a 401, this happens after I authenticate in openstack dashboard | 15:16 |
| ArKam | Teduardo: You simply do not use the correct username or password with the correct tenant or endpoint | 15:17 |
| Teduardo | hrm if i dont use the right username or password it tells me | 15:17 |
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| Teduardo | i just think its a bit weird that it starts out trying to hit one IP and then changes and hits another IP | 15:18 |
| ArKam | Teduardo: I don't know, but seems OK for me to swap to the correct IP if Keystone service is not on the same host than Horizon, could you paste the entire log? | 15:20 |
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| rahafrouz | hi, I have a dummy question. is anybody here to answer? | 15:27 |
| ArKam | rahafrouz: yep | 15:27 |
| rahafrouz | thank you! can we build sth like windows azure with openstack? | 15:28 |
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| ArKam | STH? | 15:28 |
| rahafrouz | something :D | 15:28 |
| rahafrouz | for example I have a datacenter | 15:29 |
| ArKam | Oh sorry :D Yes, you can :D | 15:29 |
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| ArKam | you need OpenStack and some additionnal services, but you can :D | 15:29 |
| rahafrouz | can I do something that users log in and choose their needs and I give them an os? | 15:29 |
| ArKam | rahafrouz: This is the purpose of OS | 15:29 |
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| rahafrouz | for example somebody says that I want a window server with 200 GB ram | 15:30 |
| rahafrouz | is it possible? | 15:30 |
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| ArKam | Yep | 15:31 |
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| ArKam | rahafrouz: As I said, this is IAAS and OpenStack is deeply made for :D | 15:31 |
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| rahafrouz | ArKam: so it's possible :D | 15:32 |
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| Teduardo | rahafrouz: it's probably a lot easier to do this with System Center 2012 SP1 | 15:32 |
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| rahafrouz | but I'm wondering with the possiblity of this, why still people use grid and cluster based computing? | 15:32 |
| ArKam | rahafrouz: Exactly ;-) I didn't say that it will be easy, but it's the purpose of OS and As I use it for our developpers team :D | 15:32 |
| ArKam | rahafrouz: Because people have differents needs and sometimes, MAAS is better than IAAS | 15:33 |
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| rahafrouz | we have a clustering section in our uni that it costs about 1 million dollar , and I saw people use it to cluster computing, and it's limited to some softwares for example abaqus etc | 15:35 |
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| rahafrouz | I want to make a team to make sth like windows azure or anything and make money from datacenter | 15:35 |
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| rahafrouz | :D | 15:35 |
| Teduardo | ArKam: it's like this: http://pastebin.com/RKHdzQ3b | 15:35 |
| rahafrouz | so you tell me it's possible | 15:35 |
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| ArKam | rahafrouz: Exactly, what kind of HW do you have? | 15:36 |
| ArKam | Teduardo: Thx, I'll read it | 15:36 |
| Teduardo | hardware, IP addresses, Internet connectivity, a datacenter | 15:36 |
| Teduardo | =) | 15:36 |
| rahafrouz | ArKam : all I saw there are some racks fulled with HP servers | 15:37 |
| ArKam | rahafrouz: Ok, anyway, if you got hardware accepting your favorite Linux distro it's OK, then go ahead :D | 15:38 |
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| Teduardo | ArKam: my pc doesn't need to be on all of the subnets right? | 15:39 |
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| ArKam | Teduardo: Nop, it don't, this is horizon pb over there. | 15:40 |
| Teduardo | ah | 15:40 |
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| Teduardo | stumped then, no clue | 15:40 |
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| rahafrouz | ArKam: thank you :D and I'm dealing with XCP at the moment, what are the requirements for me to do that? I work later with KVM and VMware, and taking a look at openstack. what else should I know ? | 15:40 |
| ffr | Hi there. Can someone help me with horizon setup for grizzly on ubuntu precise ? using the ubuntu package.. | 15:41 |
| ArKam | rahafrouz: you just should take a look at the website and documentation :D | 15:41 |
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| ffr | I'm stuck with ' OfflineGenerationError: You have offline compression enabled but key ..' in /var/log/apache2/error.log .. | 15:41 |
| ffr | even if I do this python manage thing .. | 15:42 |
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| ArKam | Teduardo: It seems that you just don't have the correct authorization to access the /project URI and about me, your endpoint is missconfigured beacuse Keystone uri='http://192.168.124.82:5000/ should be Keystone uri='http://192.168.124.82:5000/v2 | 15:44 |
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| rahafrouz | ArKam: thank you. another question. there are lots of idle computer in our university. can I do something that they help our cloud process instead of being idle? | 15:44 |
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| Teduardo | ArKam: okay, I get that but that doesnt seem to be coming from the configuration file, so how do I change it? | 15:44 |
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| Teduardo | If I go into the configuration and type funnyclownnose for the URL the error message doesn't change | 15:45 |
| ArKam | Teduardo: you should add/remove/modify your keystone endpoint for this tenant | 15:45 |
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| rahafrouz | ArKam: thank you. another question. there are lots of idle computer in our university. can I do something that they help our cloud process instead of being idle? | 15:47 |
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| Teduardo | ArKam: sorry to keep bugging you, it seems you're super busy all of the sudden; but do you know how I can see the endpoints for a specific tenant? it seems this tenant-get tenant_name just shows the name/id | 15:48 |
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| rahafrouz | Teduardo: thank you. another question. there are lots of idle computer in our university. can I do something that they help our cloud process instead of being idle? | 15:49 |
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| ArKam | Teduardo: I'm quite busy to respond on the IRC for now but it's OK :D | 15:49 |
| ArKam | Teduardo: just do a keystone --endpoint-list | 15:50 |
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| Teduardo | ArKam: and then match that up to the 'nova' service? | 15:51 |
| rahafrouz | no one here likes me :D | 15:51 |
| ArKam | rahafrouz: why? | 15:52 |
| Teduardo | Hmm, there appear to be two different endpoints for the nova service | 15:53 |
| ArKam | Teduardo: you should take a look at the documentation which well explain relationship between Keystone and the other projects on OS, you should especially look at the keystone/Endpoints create/manage section. | 15:53 |
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| Teduardo | This doesn't appear anywhere in the endpoint list in keystone: http://192.168.122.3:8774 but it's in the error.. weird. | 15:55 |
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| ArKam | Teduardo: it's on your horizon config file or keystone, can't remember very well. | 15:57 |
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| rahafrouz | ArKam: you told me I need openstack and some additonal services for os virtualization. what are those additional services? | 15:58 |
| Teduardo | dash says this in the config: OPENSTACK_HOST = "192.168.124.82" OPENSTACK_KEYSTONE_URL = "http://%s:5000/v2.0" % OPENSTACK_HOST | 15:58 |
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| Teduardo | i'll check around in MySQL, etc and see if I can find where that other URL exists | 15:58 |
| no0tic | hi, I have installed keystone on ubuntu 12.04.1 following the install and deploy manual. I added tenants and roles and now I am stuck checking if it's working... (http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/install/apt/content/verifying-identity-install.html) "keystone token-get" works but "keystone user-list" does not. I am using the admin API 35357 port as auth-url | 15:58 |
| Teduardo | no0tic: try something like this keystone --os-username admin --os-password crowbar --os-tenant-name openstack --os-auth-url http://192.168.124.82:5000/v2.0 user-list | 15:59 |
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| no0tic | Teduardo, same command as mine, it changes only the API port, same output "Unable to authorize user" | 16:01 |
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| ArKam | rahafrouz: In fact, if you just plan to operate a Virtualization plateforme in IAAS mode as you explained it, nothing more is needed, but if you want to do SAAS additionnally to IAAS, you'll need OpenShift | 16:02 |
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| ArKam | rahafrouz: you're welcome | 16:04 |
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| rahafrouz | ArKam: for example we have dual core processors in our cluster, can we deploy AN OS using 50 servers with 100 cores for example? | 16:06 |
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| ArKam | rahafrouz: Of course you can | 16:07 |
| rahafrouz | so what is the need of other things like swift? for example we build a very good centos for webserver for example, without need of any other aplication. just we install apache in OS.... | 16:08 |
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| rahafrouz | ArKam:so what is the need of other things like openshift? for example we build a very good centos for webserver for example, without need of any other aplication. just we install apache in OS.. | 16:09 |
| ArKam | rahafrouz: don't get it, what is your question exactly regarding Swift? | 16:09 |
| rahafrouz | that was a mistake :D I meant openshift as you said | 16:10 |
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| rahafrouz | sorry | 16:10 |
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| ArKam | rahafrouz: OpenShift is more than just a webserver, is an application container | 16:11 |
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| rahafrouz | you mean OS can not run apache for example? or any server for example? | 16:12 |
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| ArKam | rahafrouz: OS is just an hypervisor, it can run VM not Services, until you use OpenShift or related applications. | 16:12 |
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| ArKam | rahafrouz: https://www.openshift.com/ | 16:14 |
| rahafrouz | ArKam: I don't get it, for example somebody has an abaqus project,that needs 100 cores. we have dual core proccessors in our cluster. we make a linux with 100 cores as you said, and that person install abaqus on that linux and runs and we all become happy :D | 16:15 |
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| ArKam | rahafrouz: yep, that IAAS :D | 16:16 |
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| Teduardo | hmm, i typed 'poopypants' into OPENSTACKHOST = " " | 16:17 |
| Teduardo | im guessing something is very broken here =) | 16:17 |
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| rahafrouz | so where is openshift? :D that would be ok :D what can't we do by not having openshift? :D | 16:17 |
| zynzel | rahafrouz: you cant spawn instance bigger than one physical server. | 16:17 |
| ArKam | zynzel: you can with overquota :D | 16:18 |
| ArKam | but it's not efficient :D | 16:18 |
| zynzel | yeah, 2 physical cpu and VM with 100... :) | 16:18 |
| zynzel | no sense :) | 16:18 |
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| ArKam | zynzel: ;-) | 16:19 |
| rahafrouz | you mean it's not good? we have 50 servers!!! | 16:19 |
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| zynzel | rahafrouz: great you have 50 servers!!! :) | 16:19 |
| ArKam | rahafrouz: if you plan to do massive computation, is better to use them in MAAS mode. | 16:19 |
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| no0tic | Teduardo, http://pastebin.com/bUc8PiLT | 16:21 |
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| rahafrouz | zynzel: ArKam : are you kidding me? :( I don't get it. why I have to use MAAS? I'm a newbie :( what is disadvantage of IAAS? | 16:24 |
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| zynzel | rahafrouz: did you hear ever about building 'big virtual server' on small physical machines? | 16:25 |
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| ArKam | rahafrouz, zynzel, this is possible, I've already made it over there for an experimental project at work. | 16:25 |
| zynzel | iaas allows you to deliver infrastructure (network, VMs, storage) as a service | 16:25 |
| zynzel | ArKam: how you share virtual memory between many physical servers? | 16:26 |
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| ArKam | zynzel: duplication on load | 16:27 |
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| zynzel | and what about performance? | 16:28 |
| rahafrouz | zynzel: why? what is bad with making 'big virtual server' on small physical machines? | 16:28 |
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| ArKam | poor obviously, except on some particular case where we build a network designed for | 16:28 |
| zynzel | rahafrouz: check how fast is ram | 16:28 |
| ArKam | rahafrouz: ressources sharing and timing are really bad | 16:28 |
| zynzel | and cpu. | 16:28 |
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| zynzel | and now check throughput of network | 16:29 |
| zynzel | (even infiniband). | 16:29 |
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| ArKam | zynzel: we didn't worked on infiniband network ;-) | 16:29 |
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| zynzel | ArKam: yeah, but infiniband is very fast - maybe this helps rahafrouz to understand problems :) | 16:30 |
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| rahafrouz | and if we use openshift, the speed would be ok? | 16:31 |
| ArKam | zynzel: We did build our how Hardware and Network protocole at the end of the test, but it take a lot of time and money for... quite nothing :D | 16:31 |
| zynzel | rahafrouz: openshift have nothing to do with this topic ;) | 16:32 |
| zynzel | ArKam: lol ;)) | 16:32 |
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| rahafrouz | :(( don't laugh at me :D I'm a software BS freshman. I don't know anything about these :(( | 16:33 |
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| zynzel | rahafrouz: no problem, we try to explain you where problem is ;) | 16:33 |
| zynzel | and what you can/can't do with openstack. | 16:34 |
| rahafrouz | ok. consider you have 10 good servers :D what would you do with these ? :D | 16:34 |
| zynzel | this depends, what my organisation need :) | 16:34 |
| ArKam | zynzel: personally, it was a great experience and a lot of skills come from this test, but latence on the network obviously drop down performance. | 16:35 |
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| zynzel | you can build swift cluster, nova cluster (VMs) | 16:35 |
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| rahafrouz | it is a university. and they want to make money from that :D | 16:35 |
| zynzel | ArKam: sure, many new technologies, many OWN technologies - great experience. | 16:36 |
| zynzel | true R&D | 16:36 |
| ArKam | zynzel: Exactly, you get it :D | 16:36 |
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| zynzel | rahafrouz: im sysadmin, not bussines owner :) | 16:36 |
| zynzel | i can build cloud, but not sold it :) | 16:37 |
| ArKam | rahafrouz: Then build a cloud :D and provide your own services like rackspace and many other do it. OR build a cloud, and use it to push a brand new Web service that would be usefull for Corporation or simple users :D | 16:37 |
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| zynzel | ArKam: and where you work? if its not a secret :) | 16:39 |
| rahafrouz | ok and is it possible to make some business like rackspace? | 16:39 |
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| Teduardo | when you change your local_settings.py file do you need to do something to get it to take effect? | 16:40 |
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| ArKam | rahafrouz: Of course, if your price are cool, and services always up, look at what Google/Facebook or any other are selling, absolutly nothing that you can't live with, but they make a lot and a lot of money because the services are easy to use and always up | 16:41 |
| dguitarbite | which local_settings.py? Are you referring to Horizon's Django tempelates ? | 16:41 |
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| Teduardo | dguitarbite: I keep getting crazy 401 errors after i successfully login to openstack-dashboard and i'm trying to figure out where it is pulling the endpoints from | 16:42 |
| dguitarbite | i think you need to restart apache web server and memcached | 16:42 |
| dguitarbite | that should take care of the changes | 16:43 |
| Teduardo | hrm, i'm not running memcached | 16:43 |
| Teduardo | it says dummy:// for the cache | 16:43 |
| dguitarbite | I think it should run without memcached (though I never tried it out) ... restart apache2 ... you using apache rite? | 16:44 |
| Teduardo | ah, okay good. if you type in some random complete bull into the configuration file it doesnt work | 16:44 |
| Teduardo | 192.168.124.80000 | 16:44 |
| Teduardo | thats a good start | 16:44 |
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| ArKam | Teduardo: Port over 65536 are not working at all ;-) | 16:45 |
| dguitarbite | cm on man thats not a valid IP ... how will you communicate with it ? | 16:45 |
| Teduardo | I know, i did that on purpose just to see if the error would change | 16:45 |
| dguitarbite | haha... to try that go back to the 90's ... you need a time machine ;) | 16:46 |
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| Teduardo | it did change after i restarted apache2; so that means that it must be connecting to keystone but then freaking out about something else later | 16:46 |
| Teduardo | this must be something so very simple | 16:46 |
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| rahafrouz | ArKam: that's cool!! so if I want to make sth like rackspace, what softwares do I need? I'm at zero level. how much time you think it takes to make sth like rackspace? what should I learn? plz help me :( | 16:47 |
| dguitarbite | yep, there may be an error in the configuration ... are the API's working fine via terminal ? | 16:47 |
| Teduardo | i can issue various keystone, nova, cinder ** commands if thats what you're asking | 16:47 |
| Teduardo | sorry im a bit new | 16:47 |
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| Teduardo | DEBUG:openstack_dashboard.api.nova:novaclient connection created using token "c9e29845a8ea81324965b3edbdb948f1" and url "http://192.168.122.5:8774/v2/d8d7cad9e8c74c0195955224542e4d8a" | 16:48 |
| dguitarbite | Teduaro: Grizzly? | 16:48 |
| Teduardo | i need to figure out where it is getting that 122.5 from | 16:48 |
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| ArKam | rahafrouz: You need servers, that you already seems to have, OpenStack, large IT Systems, Networks, Developpement and Database skills, and a lot of time. About 1 year if you're not doing it alone | 16:48 |
| dguitarbite | you wanan try my dashboard? | 16:49 |
| Teduardo | dguitarbite: yeah | 16:49 |
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| dguitarbite | give me a sec | 16:49 |
| Teduardo | dguitarbite: No, I mean yeah it's grizzly; i dont want to try your dashboard =D | 16:49 |
| Teduardo | i want this one to work =D | 16:49 |
| dguitarbite | k, and how are you deploying it ? | 16:49 |
| dguitarbite | make sure that you checkout the docs on openstack.org, I think the ones for Grizzly are up. They have testing of each component after the installation in there. Check if that works. | 16:50 |
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| ArKam | dguitarbite: You have a public dashboard? | 16:50 |
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| dguitarbite | I have one running on my Laptop | 16:50 |
| dguitarbite | in VMs ... its a testing/learning version | 16:51 |
| ArKam | dguitarbite: Ok, so let's get take a tour on it ^^ | 16:51 |
| dguitarbite | kool | 16:51 |
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| ArKam | dguitarbite: what is your version? | 16:51 |
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| dguitarbite | i am on folsom ... grizzly one is not with me rite now | 16:51 |
| dguitarbite | grizzly is in my university | 16:51 |
| ArKam | dguitarbite: I'm still on the essex one :D | 16:52 |
| rahafrouz | I have programming exprience, and exprience of working with linux, xcp, some cisco switchs, mysql, sql server. and I have some good friends that have exprience, what do you mean by large IT systems? and can you give me a very summerized schedule? | 16:52 |
| dguitarbite | haha but yours must be a production stack | 16:52 |
| Teduardo | okay, this is starting to make me want to stab myself in the eyeball; every time I login with a different browser the IP address changes in this line: REQ: curl -i http://192.168.122.4:8774/v2/d8d7cad9e8c74c0195955224542e4d8a/os-simple-tenant-usage/d8d7cad9e8c74c0195955224542e4d8a?start=2013-04-01T00:00:00&end=2013-04-23T16:51:14.237894 -X GET -H "X-Auth-Project-Id: d8d7cad9e8c74c0195955224542e4d8a" | 16:52 |
| Teduardo | -H "User-Agent: python-novaclient" -H "Accept: application/json" -H "X-Auth-Token: 9879d55a8f59373b60f1bf4cd00e8a12" | 16:52 |
| Teduardo | but they all return 401 unauthorized | 16:53 |
| ArKam | dguitarbite: Yep, a 64 nodes cluster :D | 16:53 |
| dguitarbite | Teduardo: configure your config files properly. Check the Grizzly deployment guide | 16:53 |
| dguitarbite | ArKam: :O aww... | 16:53 |
| ArKam | rahafrouz: I can help you about this situation but not on this channel, this is not really easy to share informations and knowledge related to this kind of things on IRC, maybe you have a GDrive? | 16:54 |
| Teduardo | dguitarbite: yeah I guess i'm going to just have to scrap crowbar | 16:54 |
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| rahafrouz | ArKam : yeah thank you very much. :) can I have your email or yahoo id or anything like that? | 16:56 |
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| dguitarbite | Teduardo: Ok | 16:57 |
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| zynzel | rahafrouz: before i change work, i build 208 hypervisors openstack cluster in 2 DCs | 16:58 |
| zynzel | :) | 16:58 |
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| Teduardo | dguitarbite: I was hoping to be able to use it since it in theory makes building and maintaining a large group of servers easier, but it's kind of insane | 16:59 |
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| dguitarbite | Teduardo: in theory for sure .... in practise too :) ... agile \m/ | 17:00 |
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| rahafrouz | zynzel: are you doing or it's done?? :O :D | 17:03 |
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| zynzel | rahafrouz: nothings never is done :) | 17:06 |
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| ArKam | I got to go, just send me PM if needed, IRC is always connect, I'll read your messages tomorrow morning :D | 17:06 |
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| ArKam | By zynzel, dguitarbite rahafrouz Teduardo | 17:07 |
| dguitarbite | bye ArKam | 17:07 |
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| rahafrouz | ArKam : you really helped me :) thank you and good night :D | 17:08 |
| rahafrouz | zynzel: I still don't get what is openstack :D so you want to build these hipervisors? | 17:09 |
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| Teduardo | dguitarbite; nah it doesnt work | 17:10 |
| zynzel | well, you can build new virtual servers with api calls | 17:11 |
| zynzel | yours application, can spawn new VM when you have big traffic peak. | 17:11 |
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| rahafrouz | and what are these aplications? | 17:13 |
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| zynzel | yours applications :) | 17:13 |
| zynzel | OS (as nova part) gives you VMs+API | 17:13 |
| zynzel | and what you do with that, is yours 'problem' | 17:13 |
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| dguitarbite | rahafrouz: OpenStack is a bit complex to grasp ... It took me a few months to understand what it exactly is :D | 17:14 |
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| dguitarbite | n i feel im not done yet | 17:14 |
| dguitarbite | Teduardo: dude it does work .... I guess you need to check out Puppet, Chef ... | 17:14 |
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| rahafrouz | dguitarbite: so you understand me :D but zynzel was fooling me :P :D | 17:17 |
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| rahafrouz | I'm wondering I have XEN for example. why should I use openstack? | 17:17 |
| dguitarbite | I guess because XEN wont hyper scale itselves | 17:18 |
| zynzel | rahafrouz: bad question :) smth like 'i have computer, for what i need operating system?' | 17:18 |
| zynzel | rahafrouz: openstack (nova) is abstraction layer over hypervisor (xen, kvm, lxc...) | 17:18 |
| zynzel | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/HypervisorSupportMatrix | 17:19 |
| dguitarbite | dude XEN also has something similar to OpenStack | 17:19 |
| dguitarbite | not exactly but in a way | 17:19 |
| rahafrouz | xencenter? :D | 17:19 |
| dguitarbite | yeah | 17:19 |
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| rahafrouz | so openstack is sth like xencenter? | 17:20 |
| dguitarbite | no | 17:20 |
| dguitarbite | not at all | 17:20 |
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| dguitarbite | similar but way more powerful and awesome | 17:20 |
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| rahafrouz | I'm familiar with xencenter | 17:20 |
| dguitarbite | I put OpenStack Compute nodes on top of that in my University :D who needs XEN Centre .... | 17:20 |
| dguitarbite | plus that is comparing Folsom to XEN centre | 17:20 |
| rahafrouz | so I think openstack can't do anything more than xencenter | 17:20 |
| dguitarbite | Grizzly and new versions are totally different | 17:21 |
| dguitarbite | no you are wrong there | 17:21 |
| dguitarbite | openstack gives you freedom to choose your hypervisor, networking components | 17:21 |
| dguitarbite | database and the dashboard | 17:21 |
| dguitarbite | etc.etc. ... | 17:21 |
| dguitarbite | XEN Centre wont do that ... | 17:22 |
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| rahafrouz | if we choose to use only xen in our DC, so there is no big difference? | 17:22 |
| dguitarbite | DC? | 17:22 |
| rahafrouz | datacentre | 17:22 |
| dguitarbite | there is ... | 17:22 |
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| dguitarbite | I dont know the exact differences/limitations but you need to do a proper study and not rely on this talk for your decisions | 17:23 |
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| rahafrouz | I do :) | 17:23 |
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| rahafrouz | I came here to ask is it possible to make something like azure? I think if we make a service that it can build VMs on top of our hardware, then we can do anything | 17:25 |
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| rahafrouz | zynzel: if we use only xen in our datacentre, so what would openstack do for us, when we have xencenter? | 17:27 |
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| zynzel | rahafrouz: xenservers gives yours client any form of API? | 17:30 |
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| zynzel | xenservers gives you any form of balancing new VMS (not all on hypervisor)(not manual live migration) | 17:31 |
| zynzel | xenservers gives yours clients any method to build custom network setup by API? | 17:31 |
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| zynzel | xenservers supports rbac? (this user is in this project, and can see only THIS vm) | 17:32 |
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| rahafrouz | ok you tell me that openstack has a API that we can shutdown a server for example by code? this is the difference? API?? | 17:33 |
| zynzel | answer to all this questions in openstack is YES | 17:33 |
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| zynzel | rahafrouz: in 'big picture' yes. | 17:34 |
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| zynzel | how many hardware support xenserver? (i think about storage and network) | 17:35 |
| zynzel | writing own driver for OS is quite simple (for example driver for storage on zfs node) | 17:35 |
| baffle | What are people doing when migrating a live production environment from Folsom to Grizzly? I.e. on compute-nodes, where you have a gazillion VMs active allready. | 17:35 |
| zynzel | rahafrouz: and many many more :) | 17:36 |
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| rahafrouz | so we have full controll of our VMs ,thanks to openstack.that is IAAS. what are PAAS and MAAS andSAAS?? | 17:36 |
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| zynzel | rahafrouz: iaas covers many more aspects than VMs (storage, network, ...) | 17:37 |
| baffle | rahafrouz: Not just VMs. Your whole infrastructure. Networks, load balancers, firewalls and whatever other appliances someone might create that plugs in. You can code your infrastructure and automate shit. | 17:37 |
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| rahafrouz | I see :) | 17:37 |
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| rahafrouz | I'm looking for sth more interesting :D | 17:38 |
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| rahafrouz | what are SAAS and PAAS ? | 17:38 |
| dignus | OS supports Ceph :) | 17:38 |
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| rahafrouz | zynzel baffle : so if we code our infra, what is done to make sth like azure,rackspace etc? | 17:40 |
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| rahafrouz | what is cloud COMPUTING? | 17:41 |
| baffle | rahafrouz: PaaS is "Someone else has done all the magic infrastructure for you. You just deploy your code to run your applications and it will scale automatically." | 17:41 |
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| zynzel | rahafrouz: http://blog.appcore.com/blog/bid/128515/Cloud-Computing-vs-Virtualization-There-Is-A-Difference | 17:42 |
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| baffle | rahafrouz: https://www.heroku.com/ is a PaaS platform. Parts of Azure is a PaaS platform. (I.e. deploy your code, and just use magic DBs) | 17:42 |
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| baffle | rahafrouz: SaaS is software. Think GMail, Google Drive. Office 360. Typically an application that you just access via web that someone else makes and offers. | 17:43 |
| awakecoding | baffle: it's Office365 | 17:43 |
| awakecoding | not 360 :P | 17:44 |
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| baffle | awakecoding: I don't really use it. :) | 17:45 |
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| rahafrouz | so SaaS is sth like gmail; it means when I write my SaaS aplication, what should I know about infra? do I simply write for example my java servlets? | 17:46 |
| awakecoding | baffle: just curious, is there anything similar to office365 offered as part of openstack? | 17:46 |
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| baffle | Anyone know if you can run an IPv6 only OpenStack platform? I.e. communication between components. | 17:46 |
| baffle | awakecoding: No, OpenStack is a primarily an IaaS platform. | 17:46 |
| * awakecoding was at the openstack summit all of last week | 17:46 | |
| awakecoding | yeah, I know, just came in and saw you talk about it. didn't see anything that would look like office365 at the summit | 17:47 |
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| zynzel | maybe someone should write blog 'what the hell is openstack' | 17:47 |
| baffle | awakecoding: Wish I was there. I heard somewhere that they've put up videos from all sessions now. | 17:47 |
| awakecoding | it was fun | 17:47 |
| zynzel | because im using it about 1.5yr, and always on irc is discussion 'difference between openstack and xen' | 17:47 |
| zynzel | ;) | 17:48 |
| baffle | zynzel: Someone probably have. :) | 17:48 |
| awakecoding | :P | 17:48 |
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| awakecoding | I learned that 71% of openstack-based vdi deployments use KVM | 17:48 |
| baffle | But is anyone using it on full-on production in a public cloud here? | 17:48 |
| baffle | s/on/for/ | 17:48 |
| zynzel | baffle: rackspace? ;) | 17:49 |
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| dignus | hp? | 17:50 |
| zynzel | if you remove 'public' i know big companies with openstack :) | 17:50 |
| baffle | I meant here as in this channel and awake. :) | 17:50 |
| zynzel | oh. :) | 17:51 |
| baffle | zynzel: Problem is that in a private cloud you can more easily schedule downtime for upgrades.. Not so much with 10000 different customers. :) | 17:51 |
| zynzel | yeah, true :) | 17:52 |
| baffle | zynzel: So what I really want to hear someone talk about is how to upgrade openstack components live, and how to upgrade hypervisors. | 17:52 |
| baffle | zynzel: Without downtime. :) | 17:52 |
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| zynzel | upgrading nova, cinder should work 'out of the box' | 17:53 |
| zynzel | but quantum? :)) | 17:53 |
| annegentle | baffle: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-ops/content/maintenance.html should have a lot of what you're looking for, at least a conceptual level | 17:53 |
| zynzel | probably you should build other cloud, and migrate old infra to new :) | 17:53 |
| baffle | zynzel: Can't do that if you have 100 racks with hypervisors.. | 17:54 |
| baffle | zynzel: Or, you can, but not really cost effective. :) | 17:54 |
| annegentle | baffle: the Use Cases in that book are public clouds | 17:54 |
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| annegentle | baffle: on kvm | 17:54 |
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| baffle | annegentle: Well, doing live migration of simple KVM vms between same-version KVM is allready a little bit shaky in my experience, but doing it between f.x. a folsom-nova on kvm version X to a grizzly-nova on kvm version Y seems to be a bit.. Unknown.. :) | 17:58 |
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| baffle | annegentle: But that is something that has to work imho.. And with the extreme phase in development in OpenStack, you really have to upgrade your platform every 6 months to stay competitive as a public cloud. | 17:59 |
| baffle | Sorry if some of my sentences come out a bit strange, my kids are doing their best to distract me. :) | 18:01 |
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| benno | Hi Does anybody have centos 6.4 opevswitch custom build rpm wich supports gre tunnels/patch ports | 18:07 |
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| uictamale | folsom is still stable, right? | 18:11 |
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| baffle | Are people going for Ceph for object store or Swift nowadays? | 18:26 |
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| morganfainberg | baffle: i think it depends on the use case and what the infrastructure looks like. It will also depend on what the team(s) are comfortable with. I hear of groups using Ceph and groups using Swift. | 18:48 |
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| dcparker | I was reading on here: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-ops/content/maintenance.html#compute_node_failures I still don't see a good way to transfer existing instances to a totally new OpenStack env, am I missing something? | 18:53 |
| dcparker | I'm assuming I have to use glance to upload the images and I can't just put the contents of /var/lib/glance/images on to the new server | 18:53 |
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| dcparker | I tried the steps listed here, but couldn't get this to work either http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/openstack/operators/23273 | 19:02 |
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| tpaszkowski | does anybody know how to make 'default' security group to be shared by multiple tenants ? | 19:03 |
| tpaszkowski | or how to create 'default' security group for each tenant ? | 19:03 |
| tpaszkowski | quantum keeps complaining that default security group already exists ;( | 19:03 |
| morganfainberg | tpaszkowski: "default" security group is automatically created on demand for a tenant (via nova, which I assume is proxying the groups to quantum?) | 19:04 |
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| morganfainberg | or it should be. | 19:04 |
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| no0tic | hi :) | 19:05 |
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| no0tic | could anybody take a look at http://pastebin.com/bUc8PiLT ? I have a problem setting up keystone. After creating two tenants (gesca, service), roles (admin) and users, the last test proposed on http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/install/apt/content/verifying-identity-install.html fails | 19:09 |
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| baffle | morganfainberg: If you have public services, the use case is not really defined by you. :) | 19:24 |
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| morganfainberg | baffle: then it comes down to what the operators are comfortable with, and how the infrastructure is setup. Ceph has different types of operational overhead than swift. Both supply a good S3-compatible object store. | 19:26 |
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| tpaszkowski | morganfainberg: so it seems that it's not working ;( | 19:28 |
| tpaszkowski | morganfainberg: I have a demo tenant and nova secgroup-list is empty ;( | 19:29 |
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| tpaszkowski | morganfainberg: Ok it see where is the problem I'am using single --shared network for all tenants :( | 19:31 |
| tpaszkowski | that's why default security group is not created for each tenantr | 19:32 |
| morganfainberg | tpaszkowski: hrm. | 19:33 |
| morganfainberg | tpaszkowski: i didn't realize that limited the security group creation | 19:33 |
| tpaszkowski | morganfainberg: Could you point me place within the quantum code where those default security-groups are created ? | 19:34 |
| morganfainberg | tpaszkowski: if nova has the security_group_api option set to quantum | 19:34 |
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| morganfainberg | nova should be proxying the management of security groups to quantum | 19:34 |
| tpaszkowski | yes I have this setting | 19:34 |
| tpaszkowski | yes that's true | 19:34 |
| morganfainberg | the function in nova is ensure_default_security_group | 19:35 |
| morganfainberg | it's hiding deep in the instance creation code. | 19:35 |
| morganfainberg | i think | 19:35 |
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| morganfainberg | (admittedly it's been a while since i've been working in that code) | 19:35 |
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| tpaszkowski | so that's strange because I'am unable to spawn new instance as quantum complains that default security group does not exists ;( | 19:36 |
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| tpaszkowski | this function ensure_default_security_group is called by quantum during network creation | 19:37 |
| morganfainberg | tpaszkowski: I also am limited in my knowledge of quantum as we're still using nova-network with a custom VLAN manager | 19:37 |
| morganfainberg | (where I work)( | 19:37 |
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| tpaszkowski | anyway | 19:39 |
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| tpaszkowski | I'll report bug | 19:40 |
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| osphy | I am able to launch vms and see them in dashboard. But unable to see the dash board from another machines' browser using ip. How to make it possible ? | 19:42 |
| osphy | is it because of iptables ? | 19:43 |
| osphy | port forwarding is one option but why not simple ip based url ? | 19:44 |
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| flo___ | Hey guys. Just installed openstack using the RDO tutorials and just have a quick question. Anyone got a minute? | 19:45 |
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| flo___ | Hey guys. Just installed openstack using the RDO tutorials and just have a quick question. Anyone got a minute? | 19:52 |
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| ekarlso | flo___: sure I can tryt | 19:57 |
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| flo___ | @ekarlso Thanks! So I installed openstack using the quick-start RDO tutorials which involve installing openStack using this installer called packstart. Everything went very smoothly and I installed it on two compute nodes. I can launch the dahsboard, log in and do various things. Lastly I tried using the nova cli commands but I keep running into this issue: ERROR: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'rstrip' while running the follow | 20:01 |
| flo___ | nova --os-username=root --os-tenant-name=root --os-auth-url='http://192.168.100.1/dashboard/auth/login/' --os-auth-system="keystone" host-list | 20:01 |
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| flo___ | Any ideas? | 20:10 |
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| tms | Hey Folks, I'm running into a weird issue. I had to reinstall two of my nodes and now I'm getting: 'ImageNotFound: Image 92d3c6f1-4f06-420c-b703-b29e0be89d77 could not be found' whenever I try to create an instance on them. The glance registry lists it as successfully transferring the image, so I'm not sure where things are going wrong. | 20:13 |
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| tms | these are running the same config as the other compute nodes | 20:13 |
| tms | Any ideas where the issue could be? | 20:13 |
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| osphy | in my openstack installed machine there is no xserver. How to view the dashboard from another machine. | 20:21 |
| acathrow | flo___ you're auth url should be keystone server not your dashboard | 20:21 |
| flo___ | thanks! | 20:21 |
| flo___ | i figured it out | 20:21 |
| flo___ | the error that's returned is a very poor indication of that | 20:21 |
| flo___ | it tries to split the os_url_path on the : char but because I didn't provide with one it crashes. | 20:22 |
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| flyinfish387 | hi. i'm new to openstack, and i'm having trouble launching instances. | 20:35 |
| flyinfish387 | the error i get is: Generated ERROR from vm_state=error task_state=spawning. from (pid=29501) status_from_state /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/nova/api/openstack/common.py | 20:35 |
| flyinfish387 | anyone seen this? | 20:35 |
| flyinfish387 | i'm using xen. | 20:35 |
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| ekarlso | check compute / scheduler logs flo___ | 20:36 |
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| ekarlso | flyinfish387: | 20:36 |
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| flyinfish387 | no errors in either of those logs | 20:39 |
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| flyinfish387 | ekarlso: no errors in either log | 20:40 |
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| BMDan | I think I've found a neat bug in Keystone, but before I write up a description, can someone with a big and active OS cloud try running: SELECT COUNT(*) FROM keystone.token; please? | 20:54 |
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| dolphm | BMDan: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/keystone-manage-token-flush | 20:55 |
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| dolphm | BMDan: it's not so much neat as that there's no means of flushing tokens built in, and clients like to produce lots of tokens rather than using them until they expire | 20:56 |
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| BMDan | dolphm: Agreed, but simply adding an index to "expires" all but solves the problem for me. | 20:57 |
| BMDan | dolphm: That was the solution I was going to propose. | 20:57 |
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| dolphm | BMDan: i'd love to see a migration to make that happen | 20:57 |
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| BMDan | Is it possible to propose that as part of the blueprint? The two seem to go hand-in-hand, though their implementations are of course very different. | 20:58 |
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| dolphm | BMDan: i don't think it should be part of that blueprint -- i'm happy to open a new blueprint if you want to write the migration | 20:59 |
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| BMDan | dolphm: I don't actually know Python, but the MySQL is laughably simple: ALTER TABLE token ADD INDEX expires (expires) | 20:59 |
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| dolphm | BMDan: that's why it hasn't been fixed -- it's trivial for operators to apply a fix and not contribute it back | 21:00 |
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| BMDan | dolphm: Okay. Well, I'm happy to write something up, but my point is that I don't know what to write, really. :\ | 21:01 |
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| dolphm | BMDan: migration goes here- https://github.com/openstack/keystone/tree/master/keystone/common/sql/migrate_repo/versions | 21:02 |
| dolphm | BMDan: tests go here https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/tests/test_sql_upgrade.py | 21:03 |
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| dolphm | BMDan: not that you have to contribute a fix, but i'm happy to get you going :) | 21:03 |
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| dolphm | BMDan: created a bp https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/index-token-expiry | 21:05 |
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| dolphm | BMDan: feel free to add to the bp as well | 21:06 |
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| BMDan | Participation essential = ?? | 21:07 |
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| dolphm | BMDan: ? | 21:07 |
| BMDan | Check this if participation in the design of the feature is essential. | 21:07 |
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| BMDan | Does that mean I check it if my lack of participation would result in me being fired? | 21:08 |
| BMDan | Or the feature not being successful? | 21:08 |
| BMDan | Or? | 21:08 |
| * BMDan boggles. | 21:08 | |
| dolphm | BMDan: lol i don't think i've ever seen that... is it on launchpad somewhere? | 21:08 |
| BMDan | Yeah, I hit "subscribe" on that BP. | 21:08 |
| BMDan | It's on the confirmation page. | 21:08 |
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| BMDan | dolphm: Thank you for the blueprint. I'll add to it tomorrow. :) | 21:20 |
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| devoid | is there a way to run multiple openstack deployments using the same mq backend? Or is it just better to run separate mq processes? | 21:49 |
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| aimon | devoid just give them different vhosts | 22:13 |
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| devoid | aimon: thanks | 22:15 |
| aimon | we do similar.. shared mq for openstack and some of our custom items | 22:15 |
| aimon | they use different vhosts and users | 22:15 |
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| aimon | the extra protection of different users is helpful to prevent accidental cross-talk | 22:16 |
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| derks | Hello... I am following this here: http://docs.openstack.org/folsom/basic-install/content/basic-install_operate.html | 23:50 |
| derks | under "Create Your First VM"... I'm having an issue | 23:51 |
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| derks | In running the command "quantum port-list -- --device_id <vm-uuid>" | 23:51 |
| derks | and replacing <vm-uuid> with the UUID of the VM.. no ports are listed | 23:51 |
| derks | I'm really fresh... so not really sure how to proceed in order to add 'ports' | 23:52 |
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