| rootard | when you get the error from the keystone command, what is printed into the keystone server logs? | 00:00 |
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| rootard | jakewarner: good luck, I'm going for a run :) | 00:02 |
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| jakewarner | ok thanks for your help | 00:03 |
| jakewarner | :) | 00:03 |
| jakewarner | it's reinstalling again | 00:03 |
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| warik | hi! anyonw has issues with keystone 2012.2.3+stable and this error "Unable to find authentication token in headers: {'SCRIPT_NAME': '/v2'" ? thanks | 01:32 |
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| carl-msql | has anyone successfully used devstack with grizzly to setup a cluster with all the openstack services on one node, and only compute services on other nodes? | 02:00 |
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| ctooley | russellb, Yo | 02:26 |
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| ctooley | I have an installation of all of the OpenStack services on a single host. I'm looking for the URL to find the API | 02:33 |
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| lpb | ctooley: have you tried the public ip of your host w /horizon as the URI? | 02:34 |
| lpb | erm wait | 02:34 |
| lpb | read that wrong | 02:34 |
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| ctooley | I have... no luck | 02:35 |
| ctooley | I see the dashboard if I leave the /horizon off. | 02:35 |
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| ctooley | Got it... though it seems odd. I can run it from /usr/bin/nova-api but the openstack-nova-api doesn't work. | 02:57 |
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| sld | Does anyone know of a way to assign multiple routable IPv4 addresses to one instance? ...being able to add more as time goes on, with the instance already running (so using --nic when running nova boot is irrelevant since the instance is already running) ..and the main reason being for SSL site hosting, so more IPs are requested as more SSL certs are purchased. | 03:08 |
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| keystone | !ÀÔ½Ç openstack-swift | 05:29 |
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| openstack | keystone: Error: "ÀÔ½Ç" is not a valid command. | 05:29 |
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| keystone | hello. i need some help. | 05:30 |
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| notmyname | keystone: what's up? | 05:30 |
| keystone | thx. i installed swift with keystone | 05:31 |
| keystone | but i didn't know that how can i get auth-token | 05:32 |
| notmyname | keystone: are you using a particular client or are you using the REST API directly? | 05:33 |
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| keystone | yeah. i used libcurl | 05:33 |
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| keystone | when i used "swauth" | 05:34 |
| keystone | i can get token | 05:34 |
| notmyname | keystone: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/keystone/api_curl_examples.html may help | 05:35 |
| keystone | use "X-Storage-User, X-Storage-Pass" keyword | 05:35 |
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| keystone | notmyname : thx u r help | 05:37 |
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| ofu | hi everybody | 07:19 |
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| ofu | i am new to openstack and i would like to know if live migration was possible with an object store based backend | 07:20 |
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| ekarlso | ofu: what you mean by object based backend ? | 07:23 |
| ofu | swift | 07:23 |
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| zynzel | ofu: and what do you mean by 'live migration'?;) | 07:24 |
| zynzel | vm live migration? | 07:24 |
| ofu | yes, right now we do KVM on RHEL hosts with VMs on NFS | 07:24 |
| zynzel | ofu: swift dont store VM disks. | 07:24 |
| ekarlso | what zynzel said :) | 07:25 |
| zynzel | swift can be used as a backend to glance. | 07:25 |
| zynzel | and glance stores images of VM | 07:25 |
| ofu | well, okay then | 07:25 |
| zynzel | which are downloaded after spawn to compute node | 07:25 |
| zynzel | ;) | 07:25 |
| ofu | then the object storage definition in the openstack operators guide is very misleading | 07:25 |
| zynzel | ofu: can you paste link? | 07:26 |
| ofu | "In adddition, OpenStack can store your virtual machine (VM) images inside of an object storage system.." | 07:26 |
| ofu | http://docs.openstack.org/folsom/openstack-ops/openstack-ops-manual-folsom.pdf | 07:26 |
| zynzel | this is true, VM images dont mean 'running VMs' | 07:26 |
| ofu | okay, different meanings of words i suppose | 07:27 |
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| zynzel | in openstack, vm images are images based on which vm is creating | 07:28 |
| zynzel | this is normal file with 'disk' of vm. | 07:28 |
| zynzel | read-only. | 07:28 |
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| ofu | so if i want to use storage that can be used read-write by a VM, i have to use cinder? Is there a HA guide for it? | 07:29 |
| zynzel | ofu: cinder is something else :) | 07:30 |
| koolhead17 | ekarlso: around | 07:30 |
| zynzel | cinder deliver additional block storage to VM (smth like amazon esb) | 07:30 |
| zynzel | but rootFS of VM is stored localy od compute-node | 07:31 |
| ofu | additional as in non-bootable, okay | 07:31 |
| zynzel | as a LVM, or 'normal' file | 07:31 |
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| zynzel | ofu: libvirt_images_type - VM Images format. Acceptable values are: raw, qcow2, lvm, default. If default is specified, then use_cow_images flag is used instead of this one.' | 07:32 |
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| ofu | all our running VMs are qcow2 images on NFS | 07:33 |
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| zynzel | so you can mount this NFS on compute-node without problem | 07:33 |
| zynzel | and have very simple live-migration setup with shared storage | 07:34 |
| ofu | yes, but it is based on NetApps and space is expensive there | 07:34 |
| ekarlso | koolhead17: yes | 07:34 |
| zynzel | ofu: so, behinde scene you should use cheap hdd drives | 07:34 |
| zynzel | (or faster ssd, which are also cheap vs. netapp) | 07:35 |
| zynzel | normal local drives on compute nodes. | 07:35 |
| ofu | well, but then the disk image is pinned on the compute node, so live migration is not possible | 07:35 |
| zynzel | ofu: not really | 07:35 |
| zynzel | kvm have smth which is called kvm block migration | 07:36 |
| ofu | well, I will google that | 07:36 |
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| zynzel | ofu: http://docs.openstack.org/folsom/openstack-compute/admin/content/configuring-migrations.html | 07:37 |
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| ofu | zynzel: but in this config HostA (the NFS-Server that exports /var/lib/nova/instances) is a SPOF | 07:40 |
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| zynzel | ofu: this setup only describes "Shared storage based live migration" | 07:42 |
| zynzel | search smth about "Block live migration" | 07:42 |
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| chiadog | ofu: time to start playing with Ceph so you don't burn up your netapp for VM images | 07:46 |
| chiadog | or get really good at not relying on your OS image for bulk app data | 07:47 |
| zynzel | chiadog: he stores running vms on netapp not vm images. | 07:47 |
| chiadog | sorry bad terminology on my part | 07:47 |
| chiadog | running instance image | 07:48 |
| zynzel | +as i tested ceph, i was very easly to destroy running cluster. | 07:48 |
| ofu | and dedup/asis works really good there | 07:48 |
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| chiadog | yup, keep your isntance volume trim and deduped | 07:48 |
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| chiadog | with other vols for app data | 07:48 |
| chiadog | glue it all together with puppet | 07:48 |
| chiadog | crack a beer and lean back | 07:48 |
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| sid_ | i am following this manual http://cssoss.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/openstackbookv3-0_csscorp2.pdf, can anyone tell how to export envirnoment variables which are reuqired working with openstack - check page 19 | 07:55 |
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| koolhead17 | sid_: create a file which will have your creds | 07:56 |
| koolhead17 | and simply source it | 07:56 |
| koolhead17 | source <your filename> | 07:56 |
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| koolhead17 | it should work after that | 07:56 |
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| koolhead17 | alex88: hola | 07:57 |
| koolhead17 | sid_: BTW that book is outdated now. :) | 07:57 |
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| alex88 | koolhead17: o/ | 08:24 |
| alex88 | sorry for the delay, work call | 08:24 |
| koolhead17 | alex88: how are things? been a while you blogged :P | 08:24 |
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| alex88 | koolhead17: busy as hell, I'm playing with mysql cluster which doesn't seems that good actually.. btw I'm fine, you? | 08:24 |
| alex88 | and yeah I know, haven't got time yet :( | 08:25 |
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| koolhead17 | alex88: been a while i blogged so chalking out interesting tools and topics to play/work with :) | 08:25 |
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| koolhead17 | *checking | 08:27 |
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| ekarlso | speaking of mysql clusters alex88 | 08:28 |
| ekarlso | I wonder what new cool stuff MariaDB will come with in that area | 08:28 |
| * swpd | 08:29 | |
| ekarlso | swpd: ? | 08:29 |
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| alex88 | ekarlso: yeah that's a to do in my tests... I wondered if the multi-master thing is just to have distributed writes for HA or it really improves write performances | 08:37 |
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| koolhead17 | alex88: ekarlso i am going to spend this month on WTF is security | 08:39 |
| alex88 | kpepple: being an hacker? :P | 08:39 |
| koolhead17 | i been hearing a lot about it all across the blogs/places | 08:39 |
| koolhead17 | alex88: hahaha. just want to know what is it all about | 08:39 |
| koolhead17 | so much noise | 08:39 |
| koolhead17 | haha | 08:39 |
| alex88 | what, security? | 08:40 |
| koolhead17 | alex88: yeps | 08:40 |
| koolhead17 | :) | 08:40 |
| alex88 | koolhead17: have fun, it's a nice topic | 08:40 |
| koolhead17 | alex88: any pointer where to start :) | 08:41 |
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| alex88 | koolhead17: depending which type of security you want.. but maybe security forums could be a nice start | 08:41 |
| koolhead17 | alex88: ok | 08:42 |
| ekarlso | www.billingstack.org < comments anyone? | 08:43 |
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| FredB | hi folks | 09:02 |
| FredB | i've got a small issue with quantum and VLANs | 09:02 |
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| FredB | when i launch 2 VMs on the same compute nodes, they can communicate | 09:03 |
| FredB | but they can not reach the GW | 09:03 |
| sgran | your switch isn't propogating the tagged vlans correctly? | 09:03 |
| FredB | and cannot ping each other if launched on different compute nodes | 09:03 |
| FredB | well, i create my tenant net with segmentation ID 110 and ovs-vsctl show a different tag | 09:04 |
| FredB | the packets go through the switch | 09:04 |
| FredB | but are lost in the integration bridge within the compute host | 09:05 |
| FredB | ARP requests from the VMs reacht he GW that responds, it goes through the phy/int veth, reaches br-int, but never the qvo interface | 09:05 |
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| sgran | ovs-vsctl will show a different tag - that's just internal trunking to keep the different instance's ports separated | 09:07 |
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| sgran | when you tcpdump, do you see the correct vlan headers on outgoing packets and replies? | 09:08 |
| FredB | it's what i thought | 09:08 |
| sgran | look at the output of `ebtables -t nat -L --Lc` | 09:08 |
| sgran | are you DROPing lots of packets somewhere ? | 09:09 |
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| FredB | all DROP rules have counts of 0 | 09:10 |
| FredB | i've created a security group allowing all icmp, tcp and udp | 09:10 |
| sgran | it should allow replies by default | 09:10 |
| FredB | did not thought that i should add ARP as well | 09:11 |
| sgran | look at the output of `iptables-save -c` - does that show DROPed packets? | 09:11 |
| sgran | FredB: no, that is handled by ebtables, not iptables | 09:11 |
| sgran | and that's why I asked you to look :) | 09:12 |
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| FredB | yep, it's what i thought :) | 09:12 |
| FredB | it'll paste the output of ebtables and iptables to make sure i'm not missing something | 09:13 |
| sgran | ok, great | 09:13 |
| FredB | http://paste.openstack.org/show/36883/ | 09:14 |
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| sgran | can you also paste the output of brctl show ? | 09:16 |
| FredB | i was thinking of a promisc or kernel sysctl magic | 09:16 |
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| FredB | http://paste.openstack.org/show/36884/ | 09:18 |
| sgran | yes, your qvo should be promisc | 09:18 |
| sgran | and it is | 09:18 |
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| FredB | yep | 09:18 |
| FredB | we encountered such an issue for an older release of openstack and flat networking a while ago, but this time it looked fine | 09:19 |
| sgran | all the rules look fine to me | 09:19 |
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| sgran | restart the quantum agent plugin on the compute node and try again? | 09:20 |
| sgran | I've seen that go stupid in the past | 09:20 |
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| FredB | i've restarted it numerous times, and it is sometimes worse :-P | 09:21 |
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| FredB | now for example the reply gets stuck in between int-br-eth1 and br-int | 09:22 |
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| sgran | look at the logs for it - do you see any complaints about timeouts? | 09:25 |
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| FredB | i'll disable DEBUG and restart quantum, i only see ovs-vsctl commands in the log (and they succeed) | 09:26 |
| FredB | but then, all is very quiet | 09:28 |
| sgran | hold on | 09:28 |
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| sgran | you're looking for a line that looks like: | 09:29 |
| sgran | 2013-04-24 11:43:42 DEBUG [quantum.plugins.openvswitch.agent.ovs_quantum_agent] Agent loop has new devices! | 09:30 |
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| sgran | then the rpc call after that, and the commands following | 09:30 |
| sgran | that's the point at which your error will show up, if it's going to | 09:30 |
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| FredB | looks like all communication is going well with the rabbitmq server | 09:32 |
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| sgran | ok, good | 09:33 |
| FredB | than all ovs-vsctl calls return 0 as exit code and seem to have been done without trouble | 09:34 |
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| sgran | huh | 09:38 |
| sgran | and the give away sign of MQ trouble isn't there - the internal tag is either 4095 or missing when all comms fail | 09:39 |
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| sgran | what OS is your compute node? | 09:39 |
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| sgran | s/OS/distro/ | 09:40 |
| FredB | Ubuntu 12.10 | 09:40 |
| FredB | using the cloud archive to get the grizzly release | 09:40 |
| sgran | I'm using 12.04 with Folsom, and this is moslty working | 09:41 |
| FredB | but i've tried as well | 09:41 |
| FredB | and did not work better | 09:41 |
| sgran | I'm about to do some test upgrades to Grizzly, but I haven't tried with it yet | 09:41 |
| FredB | i don't know if there is a mess witht he VLAN tags or not | 09:41 |
| FredB | and that may explain why it is not "routed" correctly in br-int | 09:41 |
| sgran | well, one thing you can do is kill off your instance, delete and recreate the raw bridges, and then try a new instance | 09:42 |
| sgran | see if it's got some left over strangeness somehow | 09:42 |
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| FredB | this testbed is virtual, i've requested a physical one | 09:42 |
| sgran | but I'm starting to grasp at straws here - it all looks fine from here | 09:42 |
| FredB | doesn't change, i've recreated a second compute node | 09:42 |
| FredB | thanks a lot, at least i haven't done stupid things :) | 09:43 |
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| keithamus | Hey chaps. I have a slight problem with Quantum, when trying to add a router to an l3 agent. See the problem here: http://pastebin.com/T3R0qHgj | 09:44 |
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| FredB | any problem if i run the networker and controller in a single host ? | 09:46 |
| FredB | or better said any weird collateral effects ? | 09:46 |
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| FredB | 'cause if not, i might find 2 servers to test it out | 09:47 |
| FredB | physically | 09:47 |
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| sgran | FredB: no, that's a fairly common arrangement | 09:54 |
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| FredB | great, i'll go from office to office to ask for what i need | 09:55 |
| FredB | thanks a lot sgran for your time ! | 09:55 |
| sgran | no sweat :) | 09:55 |
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| mariko | hello? | 10:15 |
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| basha | Hi. We have a question. Is it a convention that all the modules copied over from oslo-incubator (by running an update.py) should be put into the openstack/common folder? | 10:33 |
| aruntomar | i upgraded folsom to grizzly on ubuntu 12.04 and now it's broken. primary reason, db schema is now changed. has anyone else faced this issue? | 10:36 |
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| sgran | aruntomar: I thought you had to rerun nova-manage db sync after upgrade? | 10:40 |
| sgran | (maybe not) | 10:40 |
| aruntomar | sgran: the problem currently is with keystone | 10:41 |
| aruntomar | earlier there were 19 tables in keystone db, after upgrade there are only 10 tables | 10:42 |
| sgran | ok, have you run keystone-manage db_sync | 10:42 |
| sgran | oh, that seems problematic :) | 10:42 |
| aruntomar | sgran: schema of the user table is also changed | 10:42 |
| aruntomar | sgran: let me paste the things to gist and show you | 10:43 |
| sgran | thanks | 10:43 |
| aruntomar | sgran: i thought better to check with community before filing a bug | 10:43 |
| sgran | I'm about to do this, so some advance warning is helpful :) | 10:43 |
| aruntomar | sgran: i made a clone of my ec2 instance and doing all these R&D on that ;) | 10:44 |
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| sgran | I have a test region set up | 10:44 |
| aruntomar | sgran: i have a query of about cells and region, will you be able to help me with that. | 10:45 |
| sgran | no, not really - I haven't touched cells | 10:46 |
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| aruntomar | sgran: k, but are you comfortable with regions | 10:46 |
| sgran | sure | 10:46 |
| aruntomar | sgran: ok. so i've my keystone on ec2 instance. my compute nodes are distributed across various datacenters around the world. currently i have only 1 region (region1) configured in keystone. | 10:47 |
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| aruntomar | sgran: what i want to do is to add more compute nodes and i should be able to specify on which compute node or region to create that instance just like we select for aws region. how can i do that? | 10:48 |
| sgran | there are various levels of granularity available to you | 10:49 |
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| sgran | keystone registers api endpoints (nova-api, quantum-server, etc) | 10:49 |
| sgran | these api endpoints make up a single region | 10:50 |
| sgran | a single region can have multiple cells to divide up pools of compute resource - I have not tried this, so don't know how it hangs together | 10:50 |
| sgran | also with a region, you can have availability zones, just like aws | 10:50 |
| sgran | a host/service pair is registered against an availability-zone | 10:51 |
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| sgran | when you boot an instance, you can specify what availability zone to put it in, and if you are an admin, you can additionally specify the compute node within the AZ | 10:51 |
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| aruntomar | sgran: sure. so logically i understand the funda. I've been using all that in aws, but how to implement the same in openstack, that's a challenge. | 10:52 |
| sgran | you register new regions by adding endpoints to keystone with keystone endpoint-create | 10:53 |
| aruntomar | sgran: k, so just by creating new regions in endpoints, and registering the compute nodes for that region, will it work? | 10:54 |
| sgran | you set availability zone (in Folsom) just by adding a line to nova.conf on the compute hosts | 10:54 |
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| sgran | take a look at the output of keystone endpoint-list | 10:54 |
| sgran | there is a column labelled 'region' | 10:54 |
| sgran | so all those need to be replicated per region | 10:55 |
| sgran | although it sounds to me like you want something like cells or availability zones or something | 10:55 |
| sgran | it doesn't sound like you need distribution of api services? Just a way to put an instance in the right DC? | 10:56 |
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| aruntomar | sgran: yes, that's y i was looking at cells, b'cas i think regions might be overkill for my requirement. | 10:58 |
| sgran | yes, I suspect so | 10:58 |
| sgran | cells and availability zones tick some of the same boxes | 10:58 |
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| sgran | if you don't have any API services in the local DC, just compute nodes, I'd go for cells | 11:00 |
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| sgran | if you do have local API services and just want to slice up how the compute nodes are apportioned workloads, I'd go for AZs | 11:00 |
| sgran | although, as I say, I don't know the cells stuff all that well | 11:01 |
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| aruntomar | sgran: k, np. thanks for the help though. | 11:08 |
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| aruntomar | sgran: looks like keystone-manage db_sync got back those lost tables | 11:09 |
| sgran | good | 11:09 |
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| sld | Does anyone know of a way to assign multiple routable IPv4 addresses to one instance? ...being able to add more as time goes on, with the instance already running (so using --nic when running nova boot is irrelevant since the instance is already running) ..and the main reason being for SSL site hosting, so more IPs are requested as more SSL certs are purchased. | 11:12 |
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| aruntomar | sgran: this is weird, i thought that only the new cloned ec2 got screwed up when i upgraded to grizzly. my folsom ec2 instance seems to have another problem. the endpoint-list show empty internal/public urls etc. :( | 11:13 |
| sld | aruntomar: are the services, users, tenants...or anything else there? | 11:14 |
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| aruntomar | sld: services, users are there. it says tenants table does not exists | 11:16 |
| sld | aruntomar: db_sync is a clean slate... it likely wiped out everything in order to give you a fresh start. (its purpose is to create the tables, etc...) | 11:16 |
| sld | aruntomar: whats your db backend? | 11:16 |
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| aruntomar | sld: mysql | 11:18 |
| aruntomar | sld: i ran the db_sync on a cloned ec2 instance. i can see the user list, services, and endpoint-list | 11:19 |
| sld | aruntomar: have you checked the keystone db to see if the physical table exists? ..to see if it is just an error, or whether the table actually disappeared. | 11:19 |
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| aruntomar | sld: that's what i'm trying to figure out now | 11:20 |
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| sld | aruntomar: once in mysql... use keystone; show tables; | 11:21 |
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| aruntomar | sld: show tables doesn't show a tenant table, which is what keystone is referring to. | 11:23 |
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| aruntomar | sld: do you have a tenant table in keystone db? | 11:24 |
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| sld | yes. | 11:29 |
| sld | thats why i asked. | 11:29 |
| sld | so i could do a comparison. | 11:29 |
| sld | db_sync should create it. | 11:29 |
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| aruntomar | sld: so i have grizzly running on centos, working perfectly fine. but no tenant table there. i've folsom running on ubuntu 12.04, no tenant table, but having issues. i've created a clone of folsom, upgraded to grizzly. ran db_sync, and still no tenant table there, but i see the output of tenant-list. | 11:34 |
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| Guest31248 | Hi! Is anyone online who can answer on some questions regarding Zuul? | 11:38 |
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| sgran | aruntomar: is there a table named something like project? | 11:39 |
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| Guest31248 | Is it possible to configure Zuul to run the same Jenkins job from the same pipeline in parallel but on different commits? | 11:43 |
| aruntomar | sgran: yes, table project is there | 11:43 |
| sgran | I think that's replaced the tenants table | 11:44 |
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| ekarlso | How can I fix: You have offline compression enabled but key ? | 11:53 |
| ekarlso | in Horizon | 11:53 |
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| phschwartz | 2 choices, set offline compression to False in the local_settings.py for it, or go to the directory that horizon is in and do python manage.py db_sync I believe. (The first option is easier in my eyes.) | 12:00 |
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| phschwartz | ekarlso: ^ | 12:01 |
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| Guest31248 | Zuul question: Is there any way to get the same job to trigger in parallel on muliple commits from the same pipeline if it is using the IndependentPipelineManager? | 12:26 |
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| ekarlso | Guest31248: try #openstack-infra | 12:29 |
| ekarlso | yo EmilienM | 12:29 |
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| EmilienM | ekarlso: o/ | 12:30 |
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| Guest31248 | ekarlso: thx! | 12:31 |
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| lukego | I want to setup a stable OpenStack development environment to write a new Quantum plugin with. I like Ubuntu in general. Any great tips? I tried devstack on HEAD and on Grizzly tags but it feels a bit shaky, getting timeout errors here and there and don't see how to work around them. | 12:57 |
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| kbringard | lukego: maybe try installing grizzly stable via this walkthorugh: https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/master/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst | 13:02 |
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| kbringard | or this branch, which uses quantum OVS and a single host: https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_SingleNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst | 13:03 |
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| lukego | kbringard: Thanks for the tip! Can I run that in a Vagrant? (If so, is there a ready-made image already?) | 13:04 |
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| kbringard | I'm not super familiar with vagrant, but I would wager there's not a ready made image… this is just a general howto deploy grizzly with quantum | 13:05 |
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| lukego | kbringard: I'll try it. Thanks again | 13:16 |
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| kbringard | no problem. for what it's worth I've run through the multihost setup version of that doc 4 or 5 times and it's worked every time | 13:17 |
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| ersi | Does anyone know if DevStack is usable on Ubuntu 13.04 (Latest, which has Grizzly packaged)? Or if there's another way of installing an OpenStack environment on a single machine easily? Juju? Ubuntu does not seem to have any worthwhile resources on the subject | 13:31 |
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| kbringard | ersi: I've had good luck following this howto: https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_SingleNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst | 13:51 |
| kbringard | I've never personally tried devstack, so I can't really help you there :-/ | 13:52 |
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| ersi | kbringard: Alright, I'll check it out :-) It does seem to mention Ubuntu 12.04 LTS a lot though. | 13:53 |
| kbringard | yea, good point, I think it's written for 12.04, but you should be able to follow it to get the gist of what needs to be done | 13:54 |
| Vivek | Is Devstack a complete installation of openstack and can it perform everything that openstack does ? | 13:54 |
| Vivek | I have a client that wants a demo of openstack using devstack. | 13:54 |
| ersi | Vivek: I'm not sure. It seems to be the recommended "Wanna try OpenStack out? Go smack DevStack!". I happened upon DevStack from OpenStack.org though | 13:54 |
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| kbringard | why would they specifically request "using devstack"? | 13:55 |
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| koolhead17 | Vivek: devstack is for developer contribution and most of the code comes from trunk by deafualt | 13:55 |
| Vivek | The client is a large university here and they want us to help them fix any 'potential issues' | 13:55 |
| ersi | Yeah, that sounds a little weird. | 13:55 |
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| ersi | I guess they want to see a demo of OpenStack being easy to install? | 13:55 |
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| Vivek | My recommendation would be to stick out with openstack for a demo and not devstack. | 13:55 |
| kbringard | yea… it kinda depends on what their goal is | 13:56 |
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| Vivek | Before I make that recommendation, would like to know how much can be and cannot be achieved by devstack... | 13:56 |
| ersi | Why I specifically asked about DevStack - is because I havn't found a good "Getting started with OpenStack" - which mentions Ubuntu, or rather, anything over 12.04 LTS | 13:56 |
| kbringard | but what koolhead17 said is accurate. Devstack isn't meant to be a quick demo deploy thing | 13:56 |
| Vivek | koolhead17: Hi | 13:56 |
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| koolhead17 | hi Vivek | 13:57 |
| ersi | It seems like I don't want DevStack either ;-) | 13:57 |
| koolhead17 | kbringard: hello sir :) | 13:57 |
| Vivek | I am trying to understand the exact requirement first. | 13:57 |
| kbringard | hey koolhead17, how are you my man? | 13:57 |
| Vivek | Universities can be vauge in requirements......., I am trying to get them to admit what they want exactly, | 13:57 |
| koolhead17 | kbringard: am awesome. 4 days off from internet helped me a lot. :) | 13:57 |
| kbringard | koolhead17: nice | 13:57 |
| kbringard | it's always good to take a break and unplug | 13:58 |
| koolhead17 | Vivek: can you go download openstack operators guide? | 13:58 |
| Vivek | Sure will. but why ? | 13:58 |
| koolhead17 | it will give you some idea and help you answering most questions you looking for | 13:58 |
| koolhead17 | :) | 13:58 |
| koolhead17 | kbringard: yes true. | 13:58 |
| kbringard | anyone have Grizzly with Quantum/OVS+GRE running who would care to share some basic performance numbers? | 13:58 |
| Vivek | Thanks. | 13:59 |
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| kbringard | I can get full line speed on my physical network, and I get ~20% of line speed going VM to physical network (via the tenant's namespace on the network node) | 14:01 |
| kbringard | then it drops to like 1.5Gbps Vm to VM on the same host, and to about 600Mbps VM to VM on different hosts | 14:01 |
| Vivek | koolhead17: If can read the document then I don't need to ask the community here right ?. The point is as you and I know very well, I was working with Eucalyptus as per our company requirement. I have left Openstack for a while after co-authoring the Essex guide. | 14:01 |
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| Vivek | s/If/If i | 14:01 |
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| Vivek | So when a new requirement comes I am trying to figure out what best to recommend. | 14:02 |
| koolhead17 | Vivek: hence i suggested you to check operators guide its awesome with a lots of info. :) | 14:02 |
| * koolhead17 points kbringard to ask.openstack.org :) | 14:03 | |
| Vivek | koolhead17: Thanks again for your assistance. | 14:04 |
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| pasm | hi guys, is this the right channel to ask something about keystone development? | 14:07 |
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| kbringard | pasm: you can start here :-) | 14:08 |
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| pasm | ok... | 14:08 |
| pasm | from the keystone documentation I see that it may support several backends (http://docs.openstack.org/developer/keystone/architecture.html) | 14:09 |
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| pasm | in theory, could I define a backend for the credential validation in order to use a my own implementation? | 14:10 |
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| kbringard | you should be able to, yes, but I wouldn't even know where to begin telling you how | 14:11 |
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| kbringard | pasm: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/keystone/architecture.html maybe? | 14:12 |
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| kbringard | you'd probably need to add your classes to the pipeline | 14:12 |
| pasm | kbringard: ok, but in this way I will add my stuff to the existent one right? | 14:15 |
| kbringard | I believe so, yes… but I'm just guessing here | 14:15 |
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| pasm | kbringard: ok... can you suggest me how to contact the keystone developers in order to have more technical details? | 14:17 |
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| kbringard | maybe ask a question on ask.openstack.org | 14:18 |
| kbringard | or check #openstack-dev | 14:18 |
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| pasm | kbringard: ok... many thanks for the replies :-) | 14:18 |
| pasm | kbringard: see you! | 14:18 |
| kbringard | have a good one, best of luck! | 14:18 |
| pasm | ;-D | 14:19 |
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| IR5197 | hi, ive an issue configuring the external network on grizzly ovs multi node | 14:20 |
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| IR5197 | i can ping the floating ips from network node, but never from another pc in the external network | 14:21 |
| IR5197 | the port router_gateway status is DOWN | 14:21 |
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| IR5197 | here is my ovs-ofctl show br-ex : http://bpaste.net/show/v9CxBCYW96A0BbqT08xZ/ | 14:27 |
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| IR5197 | [kbringard] what is the diference bettwn gre or vlan? | 14:34 |
| kbringard | that's a very complex question | 14:34 |
| kbringard | :-) | 14:34 |
| IR5197 | [kbringard] jaja ok | 14:34 |
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| kbringard | the quick version is, they're different ways of segregating networks | 14:35 |
| kbringard | GRE is a tunneling protocol | 14:35 |
| kbringard | so it can all work over the same "physical" network | 14:35 |
| kbringard | whereas VLANs will create many logical "physical" networks | 14:36 |
| kbringard | if that makes sense? | 14:36 |
| kbringard | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_Routing_Encapsulation | 14:36 |
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| kbringard | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_LAN | 14:37 |
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| IR5197 | re | 14:37 |
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| IR5197 | i change gre to vlan if is a posible reason that i cant configure the external network | 14:37 |
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| kbringard | could be | 14:38 |
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| kbringard | your physical network has to be configured to pass traffic for the VLANs you specify | 14:38 |
| kbringard | so if you're using a VLAN which isn't configured on the physical network, that will be problemativ | 14:39 |
| kbringard | problematic* | 14:39 |
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| IR5197 | no, im using GRE but i try to change | 14:40 |
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| IR5197 | its posible that not work because i have installed the stack on a vmware vm's? | 14:43 |
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| IR5197 | [kbringard] at the manual of Bilel Msekni they configure 2 private network betwtn network node and compute node. one is for openstack management. the other it sais is for VM configuration. What is this netwoek? | 15:17 |
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| IR5197 | https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_MultiNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst | 15:17 |
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| gmi | IR5197:the "VM conf network" is the network where the encapsulated GRE traffic is moving on; if you have an instance on the compute node that has to talk to the Internet, the traffic is sent to the network node over a GRE tunnel on that interface (eth1) | 15:32 |
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| IR5197 | [gmi] if i have problems with external network can be this? | 15:48 |
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| warik | any idea why Keystone 2012.2.3 is throwing this "Unable to find authentication token in headers: {'SCRIPT_NAME': '/v2'" ? | 17:12 |
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| wabat | Hi all - Has anyone here had luck with getting LDAP integrated with Keystone Grizzly release? | 17:54 |
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| rootard | jakewarner: any luck? | 18:24 |
| jakewarner | rootard: I ran apt-get install on it again, and it solved it | 18:24 |
| jakewarner | dpkg is such a POS | 18:24 |
| jakewarner | I went back to RHEL | 18:24 |
| jakewarner | Just using Fedora 18 so I have a newer kernel that supports network namespacing | 18:25 |
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| rootard | That's interesting. I wonder why you are having such issues with dpkg? | 18:26 |
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| jakewarner | http://bit.ly/17K2i9e | 18:26 |
| jakewarner | I found that article after my rage | 18:26 |
| jakewarner | I don't know. I bet most people wouldn't have encountered it, but as i'm developing this script and running it literally hundreds of times, I probably see more of a range of results | 18:27 |
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| ersi | Very likely, indeed. | 18:27 |
| jakewarner | but, when I was using CentOS6.4 before I ran into OVS 1.9.0 not really liking the default CentOS6.4 kernel, at least I was getting consistent results | 18:27 |
| rootard | I've seen some bad things with package dependencies too but it's not inherent to dpkg. It can happen with RPM as well :) | 18:28 |
| jakewarner | yeah, well at least with RPM it's either success or fail | 18:28 |
| jakewarner | not "oh, it's HALF installed." | 18:28 |
| jakewarner | ugh | 18:28 |
| jakewarner | lol | 18:28 |
| ijw | The one that gets me is dpkg and 'this random install script you don't care about failed for some reason I'm not going to explain, so now you're screwed' | 18:28 |
| jakewarner | exactly! | 18:29 |
| ijw | post-install is always a favourite. It's not installed, it's not uninstalled, it's… special. | 18:29 |
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| jakewarner | That reason alone I decided to move my deployment script back to RHEL | 18:29 |
| ijw | And now apt-get will endlessly remind you that this thing you can't fix is broken | 18:29 |
| jakewarner | I'm hoping Fedora 18 and I will be good friends | 18:29 |
| ijw | The other mystery is why, on a 3GHz CPU, it takes 5 seconds to do something to the package database every time I run it | 18:30 |
| ijw | * yes, I know there's a way to clean the DB up, but even so. | 18:31 |
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| jakewarner | that's something I noticed too. Both of my servers have 8 physical cores with HT and dpkg was just so much slower than yum | 18:31 |
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| jakewarner | both being the controller node and compute node i'm using to develop the script | 18:31 |
| ijw | Cleaning the DB helps dramatically, but it's a mystery to me what it's doing. And judging by the fact that no-one else has improved it in years I suspect it may be a mystery to everyone | 18:31 |
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| jasond | where can i find the latest python-novaclient documentation? | 18:32 |
| rootard | RPM also has post-install/pre-install. Does it just ignore errors? | 18:32 |
| jakewarner | rootard, it's transactional meaning if the post-install fails, it doesn't do a single thing | 18:32 |
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| jakewarner | aka: it's either 0% or 100% | 18:32 |
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| jakewarner | which I prefer | 18:32 |
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| ijw | I doubt it's quite as transactional as it makes out, but at least it makes the attempt. | 18:33 |
| rootard | so, the script fails but presumably it does stuff to the filesystem ... how does it back that out? | 18:33 |
| sgordon | rootard, it's also more that invasive post scripts are actively discouraged in the packaging guidelines | 18:33 |
| rootard | Under Solaris you have snapshots so there is true transactionality when you want it... | 18:33 |
| sgordon | (for fedora at least) | 18:33 |
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| ijw | Under Ubuntu, it snapshots in btrfs, but I've never actually gone to find out what to do with them if you need them | 18:33 |
| rootard | oh, you are running a btrfs root? | 18:34 |
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| ijw | O one machine, yes | 18:34 |
| ijw | It's been pretty good, actually. | 18:34 |
| rootard | I've lost a few filesystems that way :) I'd rather just fix dpkg! | 18:34 |
| ijw | Has no redundancy and no backups, so probably just as well ;) | 18:34 |
| ijw | I think it's getting to the stage where I go out and but a cheapo disk that's bigger than all my other disks put together, again | 18:35 |
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| redondos | hello. I am following the openstack networking administration guide for grizzly on ubuntu 12.04 but I can't seem to get my setup right. I need to configure VLANs and access to a physical network, and I've tried many different configurations to no avail. | 18:42 |
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| redondos | here's what I would like to achieve: http://paste.openstack.org/show/36919/ | 18:43 |
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| guest1234 | https://ask.openstack.org/question/876/cant-install-keystone-devstack-stacksh326-keystone-did-not-start/ | 19:35 |
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| briancline | does volume_dd_blocksize need to be set anywhere other than cinder.conf? I've changed it to 4M, and restarted all cinder services, but when I create and then delete a volume, it still passes bs=1M to dd | 21:07 |
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| wrale | i'm using a deployment tool (cloudify) which uses jclouds to access my local openstack folsom install, via the ec2 api... the connection is denied 400 with a "Signature not provided" error... any ideas? | 21:29 |
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| briancline | should anyone find themselves in an exhilarating moment of clarity, I've posted more details on the question here: https://ask.openstack.org/question/879/changing-deletion-block-size-in-cinder/ | 21:56 |
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| KeithT | is it possible to run openstack on one nic while using quantum? | 21:59 |
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| KeithT | i mean place internal, public and private on one nic | 22:00 |
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| ev0ldave | keithT - yes, use subinterfaces | 22:00 |
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| KeithT | i could place say Internal net on vlan 5 | 22:03 |
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| KeithT | sorry vlan eth0.5 | 22:03 |
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| KeithT | then say public on eth0.10 | 22:04 |
| KeithT | and then eth0 to br-eth0 on ovs | 22:04 |
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| KeithT | wod that work? | 22:06 |
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| KeithT | dose ovs send any untagged traffic on the eth0? | 22:08 |
| KeithT | or is it just tagged? | 22:08 |
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| BLZbubba | libvirt.xml | 22:22 |
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| BLZbubba | still having trouble figuring this one out - is there an easy way to turn libvirt.xml into a libvirt definition? | 22:23 |
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| kiall | BLZbubba: you mean `virsh define file.xml` | 22:25 |
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| kiall | as in, take the XML and load it into libvirt so you can boot it/whatever? | 22:25 |
| BLZbubba | ideally yes, i'm trying to work out a failover process if a node dies | 22:26 |
| BLZbubba | i have a process now but it requires backing up /etc/libvirt from every node | 22:26 |
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| BLZbubba | i was wondering what other people did in this case | 22:26 |
| kiall | Ah.. yea.. `virsh define file.xml` would be a good starting point, assuming all the disk images etc are in the right places on the new node.. Combined with some SQL to "move" the instance to the new host.. | 22:27 |
| kiall | after that, it should be a `nova reboot $instance` and it'll kick into life.. At least, this worked the last time I tried it in the diablo days ;) | 22:28 |
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| wing23 | ev0ldave, you answered a question about openstack on a one nic machine later... could you maybe help me with my one-nic-config question on https://ask.openstack.org/question/806/openstack-on-root-server-with-only-one-nic/ ? | 22:38 |
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| ev0ldave | yeah, one sec, need to look back at my notes, by default openstack ties br100 to the interface that is up with no ip but you can also define that interface which may be what you're missing | 22:40 |
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| ev0ldave | is this grizzly with nova-network im' assuming? | 22:40 |
| ev0ldave | nm, i see, devstack | 22:41 |
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| BLZbubba | ev0ldave: what kind of switch do you have? you can always use one nic with multiple vlans | 22:41 |
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| ev0ldave | BLZbubba: he/she is asking about a flat network | 22:42 |
| ev0ldave | with br100 | 22:42 |
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| wing23 | ev0ldave, BLZbubba: i have one NIC and some IPs plus a small subnet. it's a server hosted at a datacenter and i have only ssh access. the server's network config needs a gateway setting which is preconfigured to access the internet. i have no control of any network equipment or something else, just have a plain ubuntu 12.04 machine @ ssh - everytime i try something out with bridging etc. i'm killing my ssh connection with network restart | 22:49 |
| wing23 | and it seems that i'm really not the best in networking things; i already remote-reinstalled the server five times because i cant reconnect to ssh after messing up my etc/network/interfaces :) | 22:49 |
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| wing23 | if someone helps me i'm willing to write a complete howto about it :) | 22:53 |
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| BLZbubba | yeah openstack hates that kind of setup by default | 22:56 |
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| BLZbubba | but since nova likes floating IPs you should be able to make a bridge with some non-routable (e.g 10.x.x.x) fixed addresses | 23:01 |
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| BLZbubba | it will work as long as you only have your one node | 23:01 |
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| BLZbubba | and then have it use your set of public IPs as floating addresses | 23:02 |
| BLZbubba | does that make sense? | 23:02 |
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| BLZbubba | in other words, forget about the public addresses for now | 23:04 |
| ev0ldave | wing23: i would create a sub interface for your one nic that has an IP then install with quantum/openvswitch for internal bridging and then add your sub interface as the physical for your br-ethx | 23:04 |
| ev0ldave | then you can use, vlan or gre setup internal on a single node | 23:04 |
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| ev0ldave | openvswitch will handle all the interface creations… in the end all you will need to do is: ovs-vsctl add-port br-eth1 eth1:1 (whatever your sub is) | 23:06 |
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| giraffe | SHOULD there be iptables rules on the network node? | 23:07 |
| ev0ldave | giraffe: in my setup the rules are on the compute nodes | 23:09 |
| giraffe | k, just checking | 23:09 |
| giraffe | thas what i have too atm but vms have no connectivity | 23:09 |
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| ev0ldave | i have manually added iptables nat rule for meta data to my network node because i dont use l3 routers in quantum | 23:10 |
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| giraffe | I can ping the fixed IP from the network node | 23:12 |
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| giraffe | but i cant ping the gateway from the vm? | 23:12 |
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| ev0ldave | now that's an odd one | 23:13 |
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| briancline | wing23: be sure you're setting `ip link up br-ext` right after you add the bridge port corresponding to your public interface; since it's going to cut you off after the add-port, it's best to put those steps in a script that includes the networking restart | 23:15 |
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| briancline | wing23: i suppose technically it's not really cutting your connection off entirely, it's just unable to route ssh packets back to you since the default route attached to your physical nic is now stale after the add-port. so that default route has to be removed and another identical one added, just with the interface switched out for your bridge interface (usually accomplished with a network restart) | 23:18 |
| giraffe | I get this from openvswitch-agent.log: cannot create a port named gre-1 because a port named gre-1 already exists on bridge br-tun ? how can I get connecitivyt is grizzly stable? | 23:19 |
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| giraffe | how to work? | 23:21 |
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| ev0ldave | once you have your configs set and instances cleared out, try cleaning up openvswitch | 23:24 |
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| ev0ldave | killall dnsmasq && quantum-ovs-cleanup && service quantum-dhcp-agent restart | 23:24 |
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| ev0ldave | that will clear out openvswitch then dhcp-agent will recreate the tunnels in openvswitch for each network | 23:25 |
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| giraffe | ev0ldave: is that for me? | 23:26 |
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| ev0ldave | yes | 23:27 |
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| giraffe | ev0ldave: I tried it but I still get the error... also on compute node I see in openvswitch-agent.log: Stderr: 'ovs-vsctl: no row "qvof5f3c9d5-88" in table Interface\n' | 23:34 |
| giraffe | still no connectivity in vm | 23:34 |
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| giraffe | followed basic install guide exactly | 23:38 |
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| giraffe | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dK2ngqU-9U | 23:42 |
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| Qten | hey guys, having a weird issue with 3 quantum nodes with GRE tunnels, running ovs, dhcp agent and l3 agent, 2 of the 3 nodes (node 2 and 3) report back :-)'s most of the time ie if you run the "quantum agent-list" a few times you can see the :-) turns from smily to xxx seemlying random, i assume this maybe just a bit slow on the server, however on node 1, it has lots of xxx's but they change, | 23:48 |
| Qten | ie run it 1 time and the OVS of node 2 is xxx run it again and its :-) but run it again and something else is broken but something else maybe ok. very "random" checking the quantum logs and i can't see any errors. the config files are the samea cross 3 nodes, (copy and pasted apart from the ovs local_ip) | 23:48 |
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