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| EntropyWorks | so will running the command "nova-manage service disable --host=example-01 --service=nova-compute" prevent a new virtual machine from spawning on server example-01? | 02:19 |
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| sld | Entropyworks: Yes, that should work as you have it. | 04:03 |
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| gag_giluxe | hey buddies | 04:48 |
| gag_giluxe | any one used openstack for storing objects | 04:48 |
| gag_giluxe | ..? | 04:48 |
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| odyssey4me | gag_giluxe: sure, in the swift component of the stack | 04:52 |
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| gag_giluxe | i need java code for storing and retriving purpose.. is there any code available for that..? | 04:58 |
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| clarkb | gag_giluxe: there is jclouds. you could also just talk to the REST api directly | 04:59 |
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| gag_giluxe | okay thank you | 05:04 |
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| biggestchops | hey gang, is this the appropriate place to ask questions about manually setting up individual openstack services? | 05:06 |
| biggestchops | ping odyssey4me, do you know much about setting up swift? | 05:07 |
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| sld | biggestchops: are there specific questions you have about it, or just looking for help in general, from the ground up? | 05:08 |
| biggestchops | both, but i have specific questions sld :) | 05:08 |
| biggestchops | i'm trying to do a multi-node setup | 05:09 |
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| odyssey4me | biggestchops: the best is to ask specific questions in the channel... most people in it are either deployers, users or developers | 05:09 |
| sld | if the questions are specific to swift, I think there might be a swift channel, but you can ask here as well. | 05:09 |
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| biggestchops | ok. so one question i have is, it says in the deployment guide that even on multinode setups, it isn't a bad idea to install all of the services on each node | 05:10 |
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| biggestchops | does that sound right to you guys? | 05:10 |
| sld | yes. | 05:10 |
| sld | go on.. :) | 05:10 |
| sld | the only thing to worry about is resources.. | 05:11 |
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| biggestchops | another question is, do people generally need all three of object, container, and account services? | 05:11 |
| odyssey4me | biggestchops: I guess it's a matter of preference. We don't do that. I would certainly not want to mix Swift Storage and all the other services on the same node in production. | 05:11 |
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| biggestchops | odyssey4me, which service is swift storage? is that object service? | 05:12 |
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| odyssey4me | biggestchops: Ah, if we're talking Swift then you can happily have object, container and account services on the same server. Proxies can live on there too but you may wish to separate them in time. And yes, those three are all mandatory for the service to work. | 05:13 |
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| biggestchops | so generally, at least thouse 3 go together? | 05:13 |
| biggestchops | and then maybe proxy | 05:13 |
| biggestchops | or maybe proxy by itself? | 05:13 |
| odyssey4me | biggestchops: all three of those are components of swift, which is generally known as object storage within the whole of openstack | 05:13 |
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| biggestchops | odyssey4me, i think i grok that. | 05:15 |
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| biggestchops | odyssey4me, does the ring need to live on proxy servers? or the servers with the other services? or both? | 05:15 |
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| biggestchops | also, the wording of the deployment guide is such that it sounds like i could have 3 nodes, each running one of container, object, and account service, and that would be fine | 05:17 |
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| biggestchops | are you guys saying that isn't the case? | 05:18 |
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| biggestchops | or that i wouldn't do that? | 05:18 |
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| biggestchops | sld, what do you think? | 05:21 |
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| ikke-t | hi guys, how does one change security group of a running instance? | 05:37 |
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| ThatOneRoadie | anyone here who's got TryStack access? | 05:41 |
| ThatOneRoadie | I've got an instance set up on TryStack, but it's stuck on Build (Scheduling) | 05:41 |
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| sld | biggestchops: it could be fine either way.... it's just a matter of preference. | 05:42 |
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| biggestchops | thanks sld, i don't suppose you know very much about the ring? | 05:46 |
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| ThatOneRoadie | So any Ideas? This is what I see on the Instances menu: http://i.imgur.com/vBGPDHt.png and here's the specs: http://i.imgur.com/ZJshQty.png | 05:51 |
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| ThatOneRoadie | aaaanyone? | 05:54 |
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| biggestchops | sld, thats where i was going with that, yeah | 07:17 |
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| sld | biggestchops: you should be able to have the rings there and be just fine.. you can have everything all on one physical system if you want... again, preference.. is there a specific scenario you are trying to achieve? | 07:22 |
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| biggestchops | at this stage, its just research. i want to be able to deploy an any of the most common ways, so i had to find out what those are | 07:23 |
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| sld | ah, yeah... you could do all in one... you could have the proxy server house all the rings then have the objects / containers on other servers... etc.. | 07:25 |
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| vrturbo | question about grizzly, whats the best way to resolve hostnames right from instance creation ? | 10:33 |
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| vrturbo | working with knife-openstack to deploy apps directly but a working dns hostname is required | 10:34 |
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| erkules_ | hi, creating a snapshot from a running instance (with attached volume) will both of them be snapshotted? | 10:48 |
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| sld | erkules_: i haven't tried, but i assume the answer to be no, since they are two different things, and the volume is a separate storage type in the first place. | 10:50 |
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| Chocobo | Ugh, I am having troubles finding the directions for uploading and booting a seperate kernel and initrd. Does anyone have the link to that page? | 14:05 |
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| humbolt | I am having trouble with cephx authentication for glance RBD usage. | 14:06 |
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| gmi | Chocobo: where did you look? | 14:13 |
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| Chocobo | gmi: in the docs. I think I may have found it. http://docs.openstack.org/folsom/openstack-compute/admin/content/creating-custom-images.html | 14:14 |
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| Chocobo | folowing these directions though I get the error: "failed to bundle kernel KERNEL-FILE-NAME" | 14:15 |
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| gmi | Chocobo:this works on Grizzly: http://paste.openstack.org/show/37236/ | 14:17 |
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| Chocobo | Ooooo thanks gmi I don't suppose you happen to have the boot command as well? | 14:19 |
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| N-Mi__ | hmmm.... got a strange problem on my test platform : I killed a kvm process to stop an instance (yes it's brutal, sorry). Now the instance is obviously not running, but in the dashboard the instance has still the "running" status, and I can't stop it. I tried to change instance state with the nova CLI (commands start/stop/reset-state), and tried to launch manually the instance with virsh, but I can't manage to recover a consisten | 14:20 |
| N-Mi__ | t real instance state and the status as seen by nova. any help ? | 14:20 |
| N-Mi__ | (running openstack grizzly on debian wheezy) | 14:21 |
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| Chocobo | hrmmm. I do not think I have ari/aki. This is a nightmare. | 14:21 |
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| gmi | Chocobo: nova boot --flavor 1 --image AMI_ID --key-name your_key instance_name | 14:23 |
| Chocobo | oh man, I have the binary kernel and binary ramdisk! crap :/ | 14:23 |
| Chocobo | gmi: you don't have to specify the kernel and initrd? | 14:23 |
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| Chocobo | oh.. that last image-create. | 14:24 |
| N-Mi__ | running "nova stop myinstance" gets stuck (and nothin in the logs) until I press ctrl+c | 14:24 |
| gmi | Chocobo: the AMI references the ramdisk and kernel IDs | 14:24 |
| Chocobo | grizzly looks a lot different than folsom. | 14:24 |
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| Chocobo | ls | 14:27 |
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| alex88 | koolhead17|afk: what's koolhead11? | 14:52 |
| alex88 | you, just younger? | 14:52 |
| trapni | Hey gusy. a `nova-manage service describe_resource $HOSTNAME` times out with http://paste.openstack.org/show/37238/ - anyone knows what service could be actually missing? (was once working) | 14:53 |
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| koolhead11 | alex88, yes kind of. :P | 14:54 |
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| gmi | trapni: can you check if the server colossus36 has an active connection to rabbitmq? | 15:00 |
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| trapni | hey | 15:01 |
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| trapni | so nova-compute should be connected to rabbitmq then ? | 15:01 |
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| gmi | trapni:yes | 15:02 |
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| gmi | trapni: you can check nova-compute.log for any amqp errors and also on the controller node, "rabbitmqctl list_connections" will show you the nodes that have active connections | 15:02 |
| trapni | gmi: yeah, I check :) | 15:03 |
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| treanet | OMG u guys are back! YAYYY | 16:08 |
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| devicenull | so do I *need* to add a router with quantum/ovs if I only want external network connectivity? | 16:10 |
| devicenull | I'm trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong. so far it seems that while I have a router and a L3 agent, they are not associated in any way I can see | 16:10 |
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| devicenull | also this error confuses me: https://gist.github.com/devicenull/31fa060c713e5f255b68 | 16:13 |
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| treanet | Is there any concept of availability zones yet? | 16:13 |
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| treanet | how would this work in terms of front end? Geoip to horizon which has a replicated MYSQL? | 16:14 |
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| devoid | how do I get the current quota usage from the nova APIs? | 16:22 |
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| devicenull | so what options do I have if I want guests to have external IP addresses? I dont really want to use NAT | 16:43 |
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| devoid | nova: is there a way to get current quota usage from the apis? | 16:45 |
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| alop | devoid: nova usage | 16:48 |
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| devoid | alop: nova.usage.get() requires start and stop dates, I want the current usage as it pertains to the quotas. | 16:49 |
| alop | hrm, you're right, I don't care about start/stop... | 16:51 |
| alop | I want "right now" | 16:51 |
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| phschwartz | alop: I would do the usage with a --start of today. It would show you todays usage | 16:55 |
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| phschwartz | 7d0b1f1fd55d40ef8d920d90a8d73a82 | 2 | 277112.78 | 135.31 | 2706.18 | 16:55 |
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| devoid | phschwartz: that's inaccurate, though | 16:56 |
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| devoid | e.g. for one of my tenants I see 148 instances with that, but only 144 based on the quota calculations in horizon. | 16:56 |
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| devicenull | hmm, nova.network.quantumv2 EndpointNotFound: Could not find Service or Region in Service Catalog. | 16:59 |
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| devoid | alop, phschwartz: ok, if I call nova.usage.get() with a datetime of now and one hour from now, I get accurate results, e.g. "total_hours" == 142. | 17:05 |
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| devoid | but there's an impedance mismatch between how the quotas are expressed and how you determine quota usage via the APIs. | 17:06 |
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| devoid | e.g. total_hours is a float, but # of instances is an integer. | 17:06 |
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| salaet | HI! | 17:21 |
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| devoid | phschwartz: ok, I've submitted the question on ask: https://ask.openstack.org/question/1139/how-to-get-quota-usage-from-nova-api/ | 17:22 |
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| salaet | Anybody knows why If I lunch Instace and runs ok, when my host machine reboots my instaces not run? | 17:22 |
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| salaet | I'm using ubuntu 12.04.2 with grizzly | 17:23 |
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| devoid | salaet: I don't think nova-compute is configured to relaunch your instances after reboots. | 17:24 |
| salaet | Other problems is my cinder-volumes dissapear | 17:24 |
| salaet | devoid: In my old machine with essex succes , if host reboot instaces reboots | 17:25 |
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| devoid | salaet: which VM driver are you using? kvm? | 17:26 |
| salaet | yes | 17:26 |
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| devoid | hmm, we're running essex with kvm and it does not recover instances after a reboot. We have to manually go in and do: $ virsh create /var/lib/nova/instances/instance-01234567/libvirt.xml | 17:29 |
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| zynzel | resume_guests_state_on_host_boot=True | 17:29 |
| zynzel | ... :) | 17:29 |
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| devoid | then manually replumb any vlans, and reconnect any iscsi mounts. | 17:29 |
| salaet | well , it's possible I touch anythink | 17:29 |
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| devoid | if you figure out how to do it let me know. ;) | 17:30 |
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| devoid | horizon folks: our essex era horizon keeps logging non-admin users out after less than 3 minutes of being logged in. Does anyone know what the root-cause of this might be? | 17:46 |
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| devicenull | do I need to enable security group support in quantum before I enable it in nova? | 17:56 |
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| devicenull | I'm getting QuantumClientException: 404 Not Found whenever I attempt to interact with the security groups | 17:57 |
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| devicenull | (quantum) security-group-list | 17:57 |
| devicenull | 404 Not Found | 17:57 |
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| devicenull | ahh.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+bug/1160433 | 17:58 |
| devicenull | I guess the grizzly docs are wrong about that being supported | 17:58 |
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| Dr{Wh0} | using devstack the "console" page is not working because it is looking for ip's that are on a different network. I have a firewall in place to allow access to the stack UI but that page loads with the wrong hard coded url for port 6080 and 6081 in what appears to be the "HOST_IP". What is the best way to get around this? | 18:01 |
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| gmi | devicenull: quantum security groups work fine | 18:20 |
| devicenull | in grizzly? | 18:20 |
| kbringard | yea | 18:20 |
| gmi | devicenull: yes (https://ask.openstack.org/question/1018/error-unable-to-retrieve-security-groups/) | 18:20 |
| kbringard | I'm running grizzly with quantum secgroups | 18:21 |
| devicenull | oh | 18:21 |
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| devicenull | I didnt know editing the nova config required restarting quantum | 18:21 |
| devicenull | but yea, I'll give that a shot too | 18:21 |
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| devicenull | somewhere I read I was supposed to use firewall_driver=nova.virt.firewall.NoopFirewallDriver ... | 18:21 |
| kbringard | I think you want that in nova.conf | 18:22 |
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| kbringard | so your compute nodes won't try to bring up rules in addition to your agent | 18:22 |
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| devicenull | that ask answer says I want firewall_driver = quantum.agent.linux.iptables_firewall.OVSHybridIptablesFirewallDriver instead | 18:23 |
| devicenull | hmm | 18:23 |
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| gmi | devicenull:that answer is misleading, you need "firewall_driver = quantum.agent.linux.iptables_firewall.OVSHybridIptablesFirewallDriver" in "/etc/quantum/plugins/openvswitch/ovs_quantum_plugin.ini" | 18:24 |
| kbringard | ^^ | 18:24 |
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| uvirtbot` | kbringard: Error: "^" is not a valid command. | 18:24 |
| kbringard | then in the nova.conf you want noop, so nova-compute doesn't try to bring up iptables rules also | 18:25 |
| devicenull | ahh | 18:25 |
| gmi | devicenull: and "firewall_driver=nova.virt.firewall.NoopFirewallDriver | 18:25 |
| gmi | security_group_api=quantum" in /etc/nova/nova.conf | 18:25 |
| devicenull | that makes sense | 18:25 |
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| kbringard | what gmi said | 18:25 |
| devicenull | that worked, thanks | 18:25 |
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| jcims | sorry if this is a faq, used the devstack script to install grizzly on ubuntu. 'manage networks' and 'object store' options are unavailable in the web interface.. | 18:34 |
| jcims | did i mess something up in the install? | 18:34 |
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| rootard | ^ help | 18:41 |
| uvirtbot` | rootard: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. | 18:41 |
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| rootard | who maintains uvirtbot? | 18:42 |
| devicenull | ^module list | 18:43 |
| uvirtbot` | devicenull: Error: "module" is not a valid command. | 18:43 |
| rootard | ^list | 18:43 |
| uvirtbot` | rootard: Admin, Anonymous, Bugtracker, Channel, Config, Misc, Owner, and User | 18:43 |
| rootard | ^list Owner | 18:43 |
| uvirtbot` | rootard: announce, defaultcapability, defaultplugin, disable, enable, flush, ircquote, load, log, quit, reload, rename, unload, unrename, and upkeep | 18:43 |
| devicenull | yay supybot, heh | 18:43 |
| devicenull | ^user list | 18:43 |
| uvirtbot` | devicenull: soren | 18:43 |
| devicenull | and there you go :) | 18:44 |
| rootard | I'm wondering if we can start putting common answers to questions that come up constantly into uvirtbot | 18:44 |
| * rootard doesn't know anything about supybot | 18:44 | |
| devicenull | it's just a fairly common python irc bot | 18:44 |
| devicenull | there's probably a knowledge base plugin or similar, it's been a long time since I've used it | 18:45 |
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| devicenull | with quantum/openvswitch should I be seeing any iptables rules at all? | 18:50 |
| jakewarner | devicenull: yup | 18:50 |
| devicenull | hmmm, how are those generated? currently iptables is completely empty on this box | 18:51 |
| jakewarner | I believe they're generated when the service is run | 18:51 |
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| devicenull | hmm, will try restarting all the quantum services | 18:52 |
| jakewarner | [root@vsw1 ~]# iptables --list|grep quantum|ix | 18:52 |
| jakewarner | http://ix.io/5Do | 18:52 |
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| devicenull | thank | 18:52 |
| devicenull | *thanks | 18:52 |
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| devicenull | that may explain why my networking doesnt work | 18:52 |
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| jakewarner | devicenull: I added more to https://ask.openstack.org/question/1018/error-unable-to-retrieve-security-groups/ if you're still having issues | 18:53 |
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| devicenull | I just didnt have them enabled properly it seems, they appear to be working now | 18:54 |
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| devicenull | AHH | 18:55 |
| devicenull | I forgot about ip netns | 18:55 |
| devicenull | host's iptables has nothing. ip netns exec ... iptables --list -n has rules | 18:55 |
| ThatOneRoadie | anyone here who's got TryStack access? I've got an instance set up on TryStack, but it's stuck on Build (Scheduling). This is what I see on the Instances menu: http://i.imgur.com/vBGPDHt.png and here's the specs: http://i.imgur.com/ZJshQty.png . Any Ideas? | 18:55 |
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| jakewarner | devicenull: What OS | 18:56 |
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| devicenull | ubuntu 12.04 | 18:56 |
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| gmi | trapni: are you around? | 18:59 |
| ThatOneRoadie | Ooh, even more interesting | 18:59 |
| ThatOneRoadie | I logged out while my instance was stuck in build and now I can'y log in | 18:59 |
| ThatOneRoadie | can't | 18:59 |
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| jakewarner | Does anyone here have a cloud up and running that can show me the output of 'nova hypervisor-stats' for comparing? | 19:01 |
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| kbringard | jakewarner: http://paste.openstack.org/show/37252/ | 19:01 |
| gmi | jakewarner: http://paste.openstack.org/show/37253/ | 19:02 |
| kbringard | gmi :-D | 19:02 |
| jakewarner | so now I have a question | 19:02 |
| jakewarner | is vcpus = number of physical cores | 19:02 |
| jakewarner | or cores + the allocation ratio | 19:02 |
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| kbringard | good question | 19:03 |
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| kbringard | if you change your allocation ratio, restat API and scheduler and run the command again | 19:04 |
| kbringard | does it change? | 19:04 |
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| kbringard | I would wager it's physical CPUs with no math done on it | 19:04 |
| jakewarner | well right now it says 8 vcpus | 19:04 |
| jakewarner | which makes me think it's physical | 19:04 |
| kbringard | but I'd have to look at the code to be sure | 19:04 |
| jakewarner | but I wanted to make sure it wasn't a configuration error | 19:04 |
| kbringard | the 48 is physical CPUs for me | 19:04 |
| kbringard | but I don't have an allocation ratio set | 19:04 |
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| kbringard | so if it defaults to 1, then it could be either | 19:04 |
| jakewarner | yeah, that's what I was questioning | 19:05 |
| jakewarner | let me set one | 19:05 |
| devicenull | hmm, I'm confused. I'm trying to setup instances directly on public IP addresses.. I assumed I'd just add the network as an external network and everything would work. Looking at my network config now, it seems the vm gets bound to the 'br-int' network.. how is traffic supposed to go from here to br-ex? quantum-l3-agent? | 19:05 |
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| jakewarner | kbringard: says that default is 16:1 | 19:06 |
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| jakewarner | I think it's misleading then, really it should say "cores" there instead of vcpus | 19:07 |
| kbringard | wow, that's quite an overallocation ratio, but yea | 19:07 |
| kbringard | I would agree it's sort of ambiguous | 19:07 |
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| devicenull | I guess what I want is the 'provider' network mapped directly to instances, nothing really interfering | 19:10 |
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| gmi | devicenull: I think you have to share the ext_net and enable DHCP on it | 19:15 |
| devicenull | I'm unsure of what you are saying | 19:16 |
| devicenull | looking at ovs: https://gist.github.com/devicenull/32a5e4bec83b582f65a0 | 19:16 |
| devicenull | I feel there should probably be something else on the br-ex bridge | 19:17 |
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| gmi | devicenull: do you want something like this? http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-network/admin/content/use_cases_single_flat.html | 19:23 |
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| devicenull | yea | 19:24 |
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| gmi | devicenull: did you try these instructions? http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-network/admin/content/demo_flat_logical_network_config.html | 19:25 |
| devicenull | no, let me try that. I was confused before, and assumed that was the non-quantum network setup | 19:26 |
| b1tbkt_ | is it possible to use rbd for base images - effectively for all storage? | 19:28 |
| b1tbkt_ | want to avoid cephfs | 19:28 |
| Dr{Wh0} | I found cloudgear for installing a small stack also tried devstack but it again is not for production. Any other suggestions on setting up openstack on just a few peices of hardware for a small office dev environment? | 19:29 |
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| gmi | Dr{Wh0}: how many servers are we talking about? | 19:30 |
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| Dr{Wh0} | 3 maybe as many as 6 | 19:30 |
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| Dr{Wh0} | afaik all docs for openstack normal install talk about 26 servers :) | 19:31 |
| Dr{Wh0} | not even on the same planet for small business needs. | 19:31 |
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| briancline | is it possible for me to create a quantum network that does have dhcp, but doesn't get SNATed at the host? for instance if I'm allocating a range on an existing physical private network to be specific to openstack instances | 19:33 |
| gmi | Dr{Wh0}: I think the best way to learn Openstack is to install it manually so you learn how things work before moving to puppet/chef/etc | 19:33 |
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| devicenull | briancline: that's pretty similar to what I'm doing. I wish I could tell you I managed to get it working though | 19:34 |
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| rootard | Dr{Wh0}: getting all of the recommended redundancy is barely possible with swift on 3 machines... then you want to add iSCSI, VMs, net management and such onto that? Seems like a lot of overhead for a small business. | 19:35 |
| briancline | devicenull: yeah, reading over your messages, it was also my thinking that I may run into issues with outbound routes for both public and private networks, because in my case, those exist on different physical interfaces. can't seem to crack it at the moment, but I've also been staring at it for too long | 19:36 |
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| Dr{Wh0} | rootard: dont need/want redundancy im not an ISP small business and this is for a dev environment to deploy virtuals do jobs and then go get blown away. If I have to rebuild from scratch I can make a procedure for that. | 19:37 |
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| gmi | Dr{Wh0}:for a dev environment, you can probably do fine with 3-4 servers, if you don't plan to deploy Swift; you can have a server dedicated to controller and cinder installed, all the rest of the servers to be compute nodes | 19:38 |
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| Dr{Wh0} | gmi: I was hoping to use a vmware vm for the control and bare metal for compute again speed in the ui or speed in spawing virtuals is not as important as how well the virtual runs | 19:39 |
| notmyname | FWIW, swift works fine on as few servers as you want, but it only starts to make sense when you actually have 3 total drives (eg 1 server with 3 drives is ok) | 19:39 |
| Dr{Wh0} | just cant find any good docs on deploying like this. where I have one or maybe 2 systems to control 3 compute nodes. | 19:40 |
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| Dr{Wh0} | except for devstack. it has one. so it sounds like I just need to work on installing the peices manually from scratch to get what I want? | 19:40 |
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| Dr{Wh0} | lovely cloudgear.py failed meh. | 19:41 |
| gmi | Dr{Wh0}: sure, you can run the controller in a VM, and yes, installing manually helps a lot, especially when you have to troubleshoot it later | 19:41 |
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| Dr{Wh0} | gmi: cool ok back to looking for a good manual install guide. | 19:42 |
| devicenull | lol. the quantum-l2-agent doesnt even exist on my install :/ | 19:42 |
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| briancline | devicenull: that's essentially what the plugin agent is | 19:42 |
| gmi | Dr{Wh0}: take a look at this guide: https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_MultiNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst | 19:43 |
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| devicenull | oh, that's not a seperate process anymore? | 19:43 |
| gmi | devicenull: what OS are you running? | 19:43 |
| devicenull | ubuntu 12.04 | 19:43 |
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| gmi | devicenull:it's called quantum-plugin-openvswitch-agent | 19:44 |
| devicenull | ah | 19:44 |
| briancline | devicenull: well, it's still separate, the name just depends on which plugin you're using | 19:44 |
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| Dr{Wh0} | gmi: Nice!!! i have not seen this one yet actual pictures YAY!! | 19:45 |
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| eLRuLL | on TryStack why can't I select the "type" field creating a `volume`? | 19:53 |
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| devicenull | what is the difference between an 'external network' and a 'provider network'? | 19:57 |
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| Dr{Wh0} | gmi: One Q on this page it shows the compute node talking to a network node to get packets out to the world. In esxi every dom has a network virtual switch etc and can direct virtuals to send packets right out a real interface on that dom. It Openstack if I had 10 compute nodes doe they all have to then talk to a single network node to get out the door? | 20:01 |
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| eLRuLL | Sorry, on TryStack, can't I add more disk to my instance? | 20:05 |
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| rootard | Dr{Wh0}: it depends on how the network is configured. My (perhaps still limited) understanding is that some plugins do require a network node. Others can dump traffic directly onto a switch with vlans. If you want to be able to create tenant networks and routers then yo'll probably want a network node type setup. | 20:09 |
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| pstallworth | are links to docs that appear in nova-api debug statements supposed to be valid? for example http://docs.openstack.org/compute/ext/quotas-sets/api/v1.1 | 20:11 |
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| humbolt | Finally! glance with RADOS backend working! | 20:12 |
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| rootard | humbolt: good job :) | 20:14 |
| humbolt | took me forever | 20:14 |
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| devicenull | woah. that might have worked... metadata server doesnt work, but it appears that outbound connectivity might be working! | 20:15 |
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| ev0ldave | anyone know how to release quantum's death grip on metadata? | 20:20 |
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| briancline | which death grip? | 20:20 |
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| devicenull | I was the opposite :) | 20:21 |
| ev0ldave | the one that wont allow instances to get to port 8775 unless quantum is acting as the proxy | 20:21 |
| ev0ldave | if i shut quantum-server off then my iptables DNAT for 169.254 works fine. i turn quantum on and it chokes it off | 20:21 |
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| ev0ldave | was trying to stick with routing the fixed subnet but looks more and more like i need to use floating IPs for this to be happy | 20:23 |
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| briancline | wish I could help. the metadata agent seems to be the one I have the most trouble getting to work consistently. any time I make changes to quantum, even if totally disparate, no metadata is served until I restart the agent | 20:25 |
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| ev0ldave | interesting | 20:25 |
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| ev0ldave | you are my effing hero | 20:27 |
| ev0ldave | that did it for whatever reason :-/ | 20:27 |
| kbringard | briancline: I've been having similar issues | 20:27 |
| ev0ldave | and i dont even use it | 20:27 |
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| briancline | oh wow. so there's definitely some underlying consistency | 20:28 |
| kbringard | create a new net, subnet and router | 20:28 |
| kbringard | spin up a VM | 20:28 |
| kbringard | on said net | 20:28 |
| kbringard | and it most times will get dhcp but then hang on metadata | 20:28 |
| rootard | bugreport time ... | 20:28 |
| briancline | yup. same for me. often times that results in connection refused notices for me | 20:28 |
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| kbringard | are you using OVS? | 20:29 |
| briancline | if no one else is passionate about filling out bug reports, I'll submit one (have plenty of material saved for this too) | 20:29 |
| briancline | yep, OVS | 20:29 |
| ev0ldave | i use ovs | 20:29 |
| kbringard | OK, I'm using LinuxBridge | 20:29 |
| ev0ldave | but… doesn't have anything to do with that | 20:29 |
| ev0ldave | since i dont use the metadata service | 20:30 |
| ev0ldave | something with the way it interacts with nova-api | 20:30 |
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| ev0ldave | i'd need more data though to back that up | 20:30 |
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| briancline | one thing I did have to do, which was not immediately clear to me, was turn on the enable_isolated_metadata setting in dhcp_agent.ini | 20:30 |
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| devicenull | how is metadata supposed to work anyway? I'm kinda confused because I dont see any iptables rules related to the 169 address, and I dont see it active on an interface (using a flat network w/quantum) | 20:31 |
| briancline | mostly because it wasn't mentioned very well in the docs. none of my instances could get metadata until that occurred, despite my router having a gateway | 20:31 |
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| ev0ldave | devicenull: quantum handles the connection to it | 20:33 |
| humbolt | hey rootard, can you help me out with something. In this manual, I did not understand, whether this line <name>client.volumes secret</name> should be used as is, or whether "secret" needs to be replaced by the actual secret http://ceph.com/docs/master/rbd/rbd-openstack/#setup-ceph-client-authentication | 20:33 |
| devicenull | how? it's definitely not working atm | 20:33 |
| ev0ldave | there are no iptables rules for it as quantum acts as a proxy to nova-api now | 20:33 |
| devicenull | oh maybe I missed a quantum config option for it | 20:33 |
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| ev0ldave | metadata_agent.ini | 20:34 |
| ev0ldave | also you have to be using a router with the l3 agent for it to work | 20:34 |
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| devicenull | yea, I'm not using a router | 20:34 |
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| briancline | there should be a rule translating 169.254.169.254:8080 to 127.0.0.1:9697 | 20:34 |
| ev0ldave | that is why i axed it, i wanted to just route my fixed ips | 20:34 |
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| ev0ldave | so i added a DNAT rule by hand | 20:34 |
| briancline | oops, s/8080/80/ | 20:34 |
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| briancline | I was actually missing that rule until I turned on that enable_isolated_metadata setting | 20:35 |
| devicenull | yah I found https://ask.openstack.org/question/945/how-to-set-up-metadata-service-on-a-flat-network/ .. I was trying to figure out if I should manually add that, or if some process is supposed to be setting it up | 20:35 |
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| briancline | oh nice. hadn't seen that question yet. | 20:35 |
| ev0ldave | devicenull: that is correct | 20:35 |
| rootard | humbolt: no idea, sorry. I've been sticking to glance+swift until I have all of the basics sorted out for my env. | 20:35 |
| devicenull | I have to add the rule myself? | 20:35 |
| ev0ldave | that's all you need to do, make sure that DNAT is on your gateway | 20:36 |
| ev0ldave | yes | 20:36 |
| ev0ldave | in nova-network times it configured it for you, just add it to your rc.local | 20:36 |
| kbringard | the rule exists in the tenant namespace if you're using routers | 20:36 |
| ev0ldave | echo "0" > /proc/sys/net/bridge/bridge-nf-call-iptables | 20:36 |
| ev0ldave | iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -d 169.254.169.254 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination 10.160.3.10:8775 | 20:36 |
| ev0ldave | exit 0 | 20:36 |
| devicenull | cool, will do | 20:36 |
| kbringard | Chain quantum-l3-agent-PREROUTING (1 references) | 20:36 |
| kbringard | pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination | 20:36 |
| kbringard | 0 0 REDIRECT tcp -- * * 0.0.0.0/0 169.254.169.254 tcp dpt:80 redir ports 9697 | 20:36 |
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| keithamus | Is there any way to rely solely on an external network with OpenStack? | 20:36 |
| keithamus | I have an external router, and an IP pool available for use, can I not just tell OpenStack to use that instead of complex l3-agent setups? | 20:37 |
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| kbringard | briancline: are you using OVS+GRE? | 20:38 |
| devicenull | keithamus: yea that's exactly what I'm trying to setup too | 20:38 |
| devicenull | keithamus: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-network/admin/content/app_demo_flat.html try that. it's working for me, I'm just having issues with the metadata server | 20:38 |
| keithamus | perfect, will try now. Thanks devicenull | 20:39 |
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| briancline | devicenull: yeah, but about to update my dev script to try a flat network to see if that works better for me (for the aforementioned reasons with reaching physical hosts on a supernet that includes the quantum subnet) | 20:39 |
| kbringard | or ev0ldave? | 20:39 |
| ev0ldave | i use ovs and vlan | 20:40 |
| kbringard | what kind of speed do you get, VM to VM? | 20:40 |
| ev0ldave | 10 gb | 20:41 |
| devicenull | I swear if apparmor has been causing all my problems... | 20:41 |
| kbringard | hmm, are they VMs on the same physical hypervisor? | 20:41 |
| ev0ldave | no | 20:41 |
| kbringard | ok | 20:41 |
| ev0ldave | i can test on same | 20:41 |
| kbringard | naw, no big deal | 20:42 |
| kbringard | I never got OVS+VLAN working | 20:42 |
| moos3 | anyone have a tutorial on setting up allinone with a single nic in a box ? | 20:42 |
| kbringard | but, OVS+GRE I was only getting 600Mbit/s | 20:42 |
| kbringard | with Linuxbridge I get 5Gbit | 20:42 |
| ev0ldave | gre is inherently slow | 20:42 |
| kbringard | I must have something tuned wrong, because I have a 20gbit underlying network = | 20:42 |
| ev0ldave | the enryption for it blows | 20:43 |
| kbringard | right, plus it can't do any hardware offload | 20:43 |
| kbringard | because it hides the tcp headers | 20:43 |
| devicenull | ffs | 20:43 |
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| devicenull | it probably helps if I 'enable_metadata_network=True' | 20:43 |
| kbringard | ev0ldave: so you have a single physical VLAN created for the overlay network, and then OVS uses internal VLANs for tunneling the tenant networks? | 20:44 |
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| kbringard | I'm not entirely clear on how specifically that works | 20:45 |
| kbringard | or each logical switch gets it's own physical VLAN maybe, and uses internal OVS VLANs for tunnels between hypervisors? | 20:45 |
| kbringard | kinda like q on q | 20:45 |
| ev0ldave | i use a trunked interface for my internal vlan communication | 20:46 |
| ev0ldave | ovs tags the vlans | 20:46 |
| ev0ldave | nothing really internal about it | 20:46 |
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| kbringard | hmmm, ok | 20:47 |
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| devicenull | hmm, iptables rule doesnt seem to help for metadata | 20:51 |
| briancline | are you using namespaces? | 20:51 |
| devicenull | not right now, no | 20:52 |
| devicenull | the flat network config doesnt use them | 20:52 |
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| devicenull | I'm not actually sure that any prerouting rules are even getting applied | 20:52 |
| kbringard | ev0ldave: so every tenant network still requires a physical VLAN on your network, correct? | 20:52 |
| ev0ldave | yes | 20:53 |
| ev0ldave | well, no | 20:53 |
| ev0ldave | i share my networks between tenants | 20:53 |
| ev0ldave | but yes, 1 vlan per network | 20:53 |
| ev0ldave | so i have 25 tenants with 2 networks (separated by domains) | 20:54 |
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| ev0ldave | man, this is killing me, spin 5 servers the first 2 grab metadata, then the rest start timing out | 20:55 |
| ev0ldave | kbringard: here is my config for ovs plugin | 20:57 |
| ev0ldave | network_vlan_ranges = physnet1:300:400 | 20:57 |
| ev0ldave | integration_bridge = br-int | 20:57 |
| ev0ldave | bridge_mappings = physnet1:br-eth1 | 20:57 |
| ev0ldave | tenant_network_type = vlan | 20:57 |
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| ev0ldave | eth1 is trunked and i have a gateway set on vlan 360 and 304 for my two networks at the cisco nexus | 20:58 |
| ev0ldave | and create the corresponding networks in quantum with the proper vlans | 20:58 |
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| devicenull | ok.. tcpdump shows syn packets going out to 169.254.169.254 but never a response... hmm | 21:00 |
| kbringard | do you have a route back from the metadata server for the tenant subnet? | 21:01 |
| kbringard | i recall having a problem where the src was the VM's internal IP, but the metadata server didn't know how to route it back | 21:01 |
| devicenull | let me see if they're even getting to the metadata server | 21:01 |
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| kbringard | I had to make a route for 10/8 to the network node to make sure it came and went properly | 21:02 |
| kbringard | just guessing, though | 21:02 |
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| devicenull | lol | 21:03 |
| devicenull | the requests for 169.254.169.254 are making it all the way out to our upstream | 21:03 |
| devicenull | I just got a ICMP unreachable from the upstream's router! | 21:03 |
| kbringard | heh | 21:03 |
| kbringard | awesome | 21:03 |
| kbringard | you routed a little *too* well | 21:03 |
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| devicenull | ok, this makes sense. the nat rule isn't working because I've got a bridged setup | 21:06 |
| devicenull | and I'm not using nat | 21:06 |
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| jpfuentes2 | anyone know how to revoke a rule or override a security group rule when an instance is part of multiple groups | 21:24 |
| jpfuentes2 | and 1 group defines the rule whereby you don't want the 2nd group to inherit that rule ? | 21:25 |
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| t1kilo | Guys, I don't know if I'm on the right channel, or even if I'm doing this correctly, but hopefully you can help. I am new to OpenStack, and am attempting to complete an installation using the Install & Deploy manual for RedHat. Up to this point, all has gone well, but I'm having a problem verifying the Keystone installation. Specifically, when I attempt to run the keystone user-list comand, I get a message that 'No connection addapters were found for '<ip-ad | 21:55 |
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| newbieNew | Is it possible to run a cloud controller in a VM? | 21:56 |
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| newbieNew | even within a Ubuntu KVM environment? | 21:56 |
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| jakewarner | Does anyone know who maintains http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/openstack/openstack-trunk/ | 22:20 |
| jakewarner | I mean, it's likely automated -- but does anyone know who I can contact about it? There's an issue with a few of the RPMs | 22:20 |
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| ev0ldave | newbienew: yes, i run everything but my compute nodes in VM | 22:33 |
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| eLRuLL | Is TryStack down? | 22:39 |
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| mikeydoodle | eLRuLL: it won't let me login :( | 22:41 |
| eLRuLL | ok, so I isn't just me | 22:41 |
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| eLRuLL | mikeydoodle: does it show you the "Something went wrong!" page?, saying to refresh the page? | 22:46 |
| mikeydoodle | eLRuLL: yep | 22:47 |
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| eLRuLL | It logged in ;) | 22:49 |
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| humbolt | hey, having cinder report to rabbitmq vhost /cinder, what kind of implications does that mean? who is watching these status messages on rabbit and therefore needs to know about the vhost? | 23:01 |
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| keithamus | devicenull: I tried to follow that guide, and the moment I run "sudo ovs-vsctl add-port br-em1 em1" my whole network goes down :( | 23:05 |
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| rootard | keithamus: your network or the networking for the host? | 23:07 |
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| rootard | I ask because I actually brought *my network* down because quantum+ovs would add all of my "bridges" by way of veth pairs for br-int without a vlan tag on br-int. It was effectively like plugging all vlans directly into each other with an ethernet cable. | 23:09 |
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| rootard | That was a real mess. | 23:09 |
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| rootard | "bridges" = ovs ports on an ovs bridge ... which are also called bridges which made things clear as mud while I tried to figure out quantum+ovs. | 23:13 |
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| humbolt | No valid host was found. | 23:14 |
| humbolt | what does that mean? | 23:14 |
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| keithamus | rootard ill be frank, I'm out of my depth here. I had proxmox running fine with the same server, I wanted to get open stack running because it sounded easier to provision new servers, but setting it up has been a total nightmare. | 23:21 |
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| keithamus | But you answer your question rootard, yes - my whole network. | 23:21 |
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| keithamus | I'm going to go to bed and hopefully wake up in the morning with some fresh energy to try and fix this. Ttyl all | 23:23 |
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| devicenull | keithamus: that is by design | 23:34 |
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| devicenull | you're supposed to configure the IP on br-em1 instead of em1 | 23:34 |
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| devicenull | http://wiki.debian.org/OpenStackHowto/Quantum#Low_level_setup_of_the_node_running_quantum-server | 23:35 |
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| devicenull | dunno how relevant the rest of that guide is, but that's the NIC config you need to do | 23:35 |
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| keithamus | Well that makes a lot of sense now devicenull. Thanks! | 23:37 |
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| Dr{Wh0} | rootard: sorry for the late resp and thanks for your answer. Seems clear. One question we talking plugin for Nova I should be looking for? | 23:46 |
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| rootard | Dr{Wh0}: no problem. I've been playing around with Quantum+LinuxBridge for getting traffic directly onto a vlan from a compute node. The linuxbridge_conf.ini then contains something like: physical_interface_mappings = physical-network:eth0 | 23:55 |
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| rootard | Then in quantum I can create networks with a specific vlan id: net-create --tenant-id $TENANT_ID --router:external=True --provider:network_type vlan --provider:physical_network physical-network --provider:segmentation_id 2 | 23:56 |
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| rootard | the argument "physical-network" in that last command just has to match the name given after physical_interface_mappings inside of linuxbridge_conf.ini | 23:57 |
| rootard | Hope this helps ... | 23:58 |
| rootard | oops, I forgot a piece of that quantum command: net-create --tenant-id $TENANT_ID $PROVIDER_NETWORK_NAME --provider:network_type vlan --provider:physical_network $PHYSICAL_NETWORK_NAME --provider:segmentation_id $VLAN_ID | 23:59 |
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