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| prometheanfire | or used to at least | 01:23 |
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| lovclrtxt | viva la openstack!!!! | 03:27 |
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| lovclrtxt | :3 | 03:27 |
| grey- | heh | 03:27 |
| grey- | I'm still coming up to speed. | 03:27 |
| lovclrtxt | o/ grey- | 03:27 |
| grey- | but it seems promising. :) | 03:27 |
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| lovclrtxt | same here. i was using proxmox before, but t fell short of my needs... but openstack's web interface has caught up and surpassed and im all GIDDY | 03:28 |
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| grey- | huh | 03:28 |
| grey- | so much software, one can't try it all in many lifetimes. | 03:28 |
| grey- | but, I've made some decent attempts; certainly looking back on many years there are highlights; virtualization and distributed platforms are among them. | 03:29 |
| grey- | still looking for more pleasant iterations; I feel like the industry overdoes it often. | 03:30 |
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| lovclrtxt | yea, my tactic against that is to abstain and wait for one faction to win out, or collaboration to happen until there's a dominant standard (openstack now)... e.g. couldnt choose between puppet or chef so i chose ... bash :) | 03:31 |
| lovclrtxt | my bash script was breaking for my junior sysadmin for deploying my rails app, that was the last straw, got him jazzed about openstack and having him learn about puppet/chef, etc | 03:32 |
| lovclrtxt | but now im like ... well should i use juju charms... or chef... or puppet... | 03:32 |
| lovclrtxt | :) | 03:32 |
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| grey- | huh | 03:33 |
| grey- | I've worked a little with puppet; I didn't get a good handle on it. | 03:33 |
| grey- | a lot of these tools feel severely overwraught to me. | 03:33 |
| grey- | it's good if you want to push new hardware sales, and arguably that is important at times. | 03:33 |
| grey- | but it is excessive. | 03:33 |
| grey- | and a lot of it does more harm than good. | 03:34 |
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| grey- | anyway, it's hard to tell at the onset. :) | 03:34 |
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| lovclrtxt | yep, we'll find out, in the meantime i'll probably subscribe to chef since my community (ruby) seems to like it the most, and at a glance it made more sense to me than puppet anyway. | 03:35 |
| lovclrtxt | im just glad openstack really doesnt care what you use | 03:35 |
| grey- | I've shyed away from the ruby community. | 03:36 |
| grey- | I think my first impression was that it was a bad joke taken too far. | 03:36 |
| lovclrtxt | yeah? why? what's your dominant language/community/etc | 03:36 |
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| grey- | it varies. :) | 03:36 |
| lovclrtxt | as it should :) hehe | 03:36 |
| grey- | I'm a philogist of sorts. | 03:36 |
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| grey- | philologist* | 03:36 |
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| lovclrtxt | i realized im not that when someone in irc was helping me learn some lisp and i stopped responding to him :( | 03:37 |
| grey- | ah, don't get sad. | 03:37 |
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| grey- | sometimes it's just bad timing. | 03:37 |
| grey- | I think everyone is ultimately just looking for more playful connections. | 03:37 |
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| grey- | but a lot of the defense mechanisms can come up when attempting to interface with a new culture, and that's true of natural and constructed languages. | 03:38 |
| lovclrtxt | trutru, thanks | 03:38 |
| lovclrtxt | yeah like "im an analyst... why should i learn your Gherkin asshole" | 03:39 |
| lovclrtxt | minus the asshole part, in a regular company. | 03:39 |
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| lovclrtxt | (Gherkin is the language for acceptance testing or customer testing, used by Cucumber and other test suite tools, "Given When Then" in case you dont have that context) | 03:39 |
| grey- | heh | 03:39 |
| grey- | I mean, there's a point where you don't really need to many elements to construct your own system and build from there. | 03:40 |
| grey- | diving into someone else's toolset isn't always the greatest thing, they may have laid traps. | 03:40 |
| grey- | not always deliberately. | 03:40 |
| grey- | it can just be a matter of taste | 03:40 |
| grey- | I like virtualization and emulation, but largely because of how I was first introduced to it. | 03:40 |
| grey- | I feel like most present implementations fall far short of some of the old masters. | 03:41 |
| grey- | but not all techniques are really ready for widespread adoption. | 03:41 |
| grey- | or even adviseable. | 03:41 |
| grey- | so some old demos may be amazing, but not as practical. | 03:41 |
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| grey- | still, they're the most fun. :) | 03:41 |
| lovclrtxt | i agree -- i have the same reverence for those old masters... the ones that managed to get where i am today, back then, without google helping me like a Jesus carrying me through the hellscape of ignorance. | 03:42 |
| grey- | heh, maybe it works that way. | 03:42 |
| grey- | it's not clear to me. | 03:42 |
| grey- | moreover, there are some platforms which frankly have never been emulated or simulated well. | 03:43 |
| grey- | and some of the tells are pretty catastrophic. | 03:43 |
| lovclrtxt | is there value in identifying those platforms and analyzing why they havent? (although i assume the answer is simply related to money) | 03:44 |
| grey- | sure | 03:44 |
| grey- | and it's not simply related to anything | 03:44 |
| grey- | particularly not finances. | 03:44 |
| grey- | but that is prevelant in consciousness because it causes so much strife and imbalance. | 03:44 |
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| grey- | at least, that's one takeaway or observation. | 03:45 |
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| lovclrtxt | good food for thought--thank you. brb meeting. | 03:49 |
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| lovclrtxt | grey-: sorry, back. that was a thoughtful discourse, i'll idle here, looking forward to more good discussion here :] | 04:37 |
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| magg | hello | 04:48 |
| magg | I'm trying to install openstack grizzly | 04:48 |
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| magg | i have a question, can i install cinder on a separate node | 04:49 |
| magg | ? | 04:49 |
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| grey- | we'll see, I wouldn't have gotten tuned into this project if it weren't for good folks, but I'm not even a novice with this system yet. :) | 04:55 |
| grey- | just perusing documentation and looking to get a feel for it. | 04:55 |
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| grey- | I can be a bit too opinionated at times. | 04:56 |
| grey- | but, am working on shifting patterns. | 04:56 |
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| anthony_l | Hi, I need create a blueprint in openstack, what should I provide in the whiteboard? | 05:30 |
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| gabia | hi all. | 06:08 |
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| prometheanfire | anthony_l: you anthony liguori? | 06:13 |
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| guest-19 | hi, i've a question. Is compatible cloudpipe with grizzly+quantum+ovs ?? | 07:24 |
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| trapni | good morning | 09:15 |
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| trapni | Hey, since the upgrade from Essex to Folsom I am having _some_ duplicated entries in `nova-manage service list`, such as a few compute nodes listed twice (and one of them as XXX) - is it safe to just delete the duplicated entry from the mySQL table "services" ? | 09:17 |
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| ekarlso- | EmilienM: ping | 09:24 |
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| sidd | i am following this manual -http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/starter/content/Nova_Components_nova-compute_alone_-d1e1123.html | 09:26 |
| sidd | and i getting blank list after executingn noa list command on nova list on client | 09:26 |
| trapni | possibly b/c you don't have VMs spawned yet ? | 09:26 |
| guest-19 | anyone has configured a cloudpipe vpn? | 09:27 |
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| Guest73986 | http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/starter/content/OS_Installation-d1e1298.html | 09:59 |
| Guest73986 | can anyone tell me how to Boot a KVM instance with the OS installer ISO in the virtual CD-ROM. This will start the installation process. The command below also sets up a VNC display at port 0 | 10:00 |
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| t4nk314 | Hi, what are the official dates of the next Hong Kong summit ? | 10:09 |
| inc0 | hello, I have problem- my virtuals in flat network are connected to external dhcp. They get addresses, configure subnet and so on, but they can't see each other (or any other machine in this subnet), any ideas? | 10:09 |
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| sidd | can anyone tell me how to Boot a KVM instance with the OS installer ISO in the virtual CD-ROM. This will start the installation process. The command below also sets up a VNC display at port 0 | 10:41 |
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| s2r2 | sidd: what is it you're trying to do? there's no such thing as a virtual cd-rom drive... you could use a plain qemu/kvm installation on your workstation to prepare an image that you'd add to glance and spawn with nova... (as long as the image is prepared with a litle caution) | 10:50 |
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| guest-19 | hi, anyone has congifured cloudpipe with grizzly? | 11:36 |
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| dmi | hmmm | 11:49 |
| dmi | either horizon or nova are very confused about my flavors | 11:49 |
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| dmi | I tried to boot an instance with flavor A and it started with flavor K instead | 11:49 |
| dmi | :| | 11:49 |
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| inc0 | hi, why does openvswitch create network with tags, while I want flat network? where I can declare that I don't want to add interfaces with tags to ovs? | 12:26 |
| inc0 | I'm using quantum and grizzly | 12:26 |
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| l_a_m | hi, we would like to know if we can create a zone for 2 real data center ? | 12:41 |
| l_a_m | in cs 4.x ? | 12:41 |
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| sandeepr | hi, on a multi node grizzly the internal and external network assigned to the instance is not pingable from anywhere | 13:32 |
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| sandeepr | on the network node, i found the qr-xxxxx and qg-xxxxx interface is not listed | 13:32 |
| sandeepr | is this a configuration issue? | 13:33 |
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| fredb | i've doubts about the iptables rules set by the l3 agent | 13:37 |
| fredb | especially concerning SNAT with floating IPs | 13:38 |
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| Doug___ | Does anyone know how OVS agents recieve the GRE keys for each virtual netwrok from the quantum server. How does that OVS bridge know to append certain GRE keys to certain network traffic leaving the bridge? | 13:47 |
| sidd | i am tryng to upload linux image can anyone tell me how much time it will take?? | 13:47 |
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| sstent | sidd: about the same time as it would to http copy it. add a minute or 2 to process and uplaod to your backend storage | 13:53 |
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| sidd | i think misuderstood my question i already downloaded the iso file of OS , i want to create img on client , check this link http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/starter/content/OS_Installation-d1e1298.html | 14:01 |
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| annegentle | sidd: that doc is quite outdated. For example, if you used the "glance add" command you'd get a message back saying that it's deprecated | 14:04 |
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| annegentle | sidd: this is more current http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-compute/admin/content/adding-images.html | 14:04 |
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| rushiagr | hey folks: is there a way to scroll the screen session up? | 14:05 |
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| rushiagr | I've been reducing the font size to see the text which becomes hidden, but it has its limitations. Also, looking in log files is a bit more painful | 14:06 |
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| sstent | rushiagr: for log files - less is your friend. in screen to get to scrollback i think it's ctrl-a [ | 14:10 |
| sstent | rushiagr:then ctrl-d for up and ctrl-f for down | 14:10 |
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| sidd | i know its outdated, but i just need to publish web application on cloud for testing purpose only, so i think this will work , wht u say?? | 14:14 |
| rushiagr | sstent: thanks, the ctrl-a [ is correct | 14:15 |
| rushiagr | sstent: and after that, simple vi commands for moving around: hjkl, will work, and so do the page up/down | 14:16 |
| rushiagr | sstent: thanks for that | 14:16 |
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| guest-19 | hi anyone have configured a cloudpipe for grizzly and quantum? | 14:18 |
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| sidd | i want to create img on client , check this link http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/starter/content/OS_Installation-d1e1298.html | 14:27 |
| sidd | i know its outdated, but i just need to publish web application on cloud for testing purpose only | 14:27 |
| sidd | can anyone tell me how much time it will take?? | 14:27 |
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| sstent | sidd: so you want to create a new iamge that you can deploy? | 14:29 |
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| sstent | sidd: any reason not to use an existing OS image that's available? | 14:30 |
| sidd | yes ! there is no reason i am just following the manual , if you have any nice alternate please tell | 14:31 |
| salaet | Hi!, We now follow this instructions http://longgeek.com/2013/03/18/openstack-grizzly-g3-for-ubuntu-12-04-all-in-one-installation-2/?lang=en#Create_a_Subnet , but now we are simulating electric fail, and when the host restart the instances seem to be freeze.. is normal?. We apply soft and hard reboot and seem equal. | 14:31 |
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| sstent | sidd: what release are you on? | 14:32 |
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| sidd | ubuntu 12.04 | 14:33 |
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| sstent | sidd: If you're using grizzly - -http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-compute/admin/content/ch_image_mgmt.html --- Look at the 'Getting virtual machine images' section, pick a distro and deploy the image. Once it's up login, configure what you want and snapshot the image. | 14:34 |
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| fulanito | hi | 14:34 |
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| sidd | no i am not working on grizzly , if possible provide support for OpenStack Compute Starter Guide - essex | 14:35 |
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| fulanito | I was wondering if there is any good guide for a flat installation | 14:36 |
| fulanito | ??? | 14:36 |
| sstent | sidd: Same recommendation. grab an image etc etc. Also I'd recommend upgrading to Grizzly if you can | 14:36 |
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| sstent | fulanito: http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-compute/admin/content/configuring-flat-networking.html | 14:37 |
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| fulanito | sstent: The concern I have is, if its really possible cause I just have one nick per server and I want to do a multinode installation | 14:40 |
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| sstent | fulanito: create vlan subinterfaces on that single nic :) | 14:41 |
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| fulanito | perferct, thanks | 14:43 |
| sstent | fulanito: you're welcome | 14:43 |
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| sidd | sstent please tell where to grab image | 14:44 |
| sstent | sidd: what os do you want | 14:44 |
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| sstent | sidd: here are the ones easily available - http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-compute/admin/content/starting-images.html | 14:45 |
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| salaet | this is normal : no instance data found in startlocal cloudinitnonet waiting 120 seconds for a network device. | 15:07 |
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| JimB11 | Hello. Is storing vm instances on a shared san volume connected to multiple compute nodes via iscsi a supported configuration? | 15:48 |
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| salaet | Sorry anybody knows why I have this ---> Waiting for network configuration... Waiting up to 60 more seconds for network configuration...? | 16:14 |
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| trapni | salaet, if you're getting this from inside the VM you spawned via openstack, then check if dhcp is working properly. it's provided by dnsmasq on your nova-network host (in case you're using nova-network)... I don't know about quantum / flatdhcp though :) | 16:15 |
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| salaet | trapni: thanks! is this the problem | 16:16 |
| trapni | np | 16:16 |
| salaet | quantum is the problem | 16:16 |
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| some1_2_ | hi, taking a look at openstack, read through a lot of docs but one thing still puzzles me.. does openstack control a set of nodes? Or is it a single node service that you use something use (juju?) to control a bunch of nodes? | 17:30 |
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| giorgiodinapoli_ | openstack is a bastard | 17:37 |
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| some1_2_ | seems like you have a 'controller' node of some sort (based on what parts of openstack you install), and other nodes can join up with it (based, again, on what parts of openstack they have), does that sound right? But how do you get the controller and child nodes in the first place? Something completely outside openstack? | 17:38 |
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| jakewarner | some1_2_: If you're setting up a proof of concept cloud or just experimenting with openstack, you can install devstack on a single server | 17:39 |
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| some1_2_ | jakewarner: Right, I've done that. But I want to try out more of how it would work as a 'cloud', even if I'm just controlling a few vms (from another vm). That's where I'm stumped at the moment. | 17:40 |
| jakewarner | some1_2_: If you're trying to set up a production cloud, you'll buy/rent multiple physical servers. One becomes the controller, one becomes the network (if you're using quantum with a network node -- you can also put this on the controller if you're limited for resources). The other nodes become compute nodes | 17:40 |
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| jakewarner | some1_2_: You'll install the controller services on the controller node, then the compute services on the compute node, etc. | 17:41 |
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| some1_2_ | jakewarner: got it, the actual install onto those compute nodes, nothing in openstack handles that? I was imaging something like using maas to fire up an openstack image that would automatically join my openstack cloud and that I could fire vms up on. | 17:42 |
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| jakewarner | there's no "openstack image". I mean, Rackspace used to have their whole Alamo thing | 17:43 |
| jakewarner | but you can also use Redhat's packstack to deploy stuff | 17:43 |
| ev0ldave | anyone seen a 400 error while instance contacting metadata server? | 17:43 |
| ev0ldave | 20130516 17:39:32,496 util.py[WARNING]: 'http://169.254.169.254/20090404/metadata/instanceid' failed [0/120s]: http error [400] | 17:43 |
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| some1_2_ | I'd image this would be an image I'd construct myself | 17:43 |
| some1_2_ | er, imagine | 17:43 |
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| jakewarner | I suppose you could | 17:43 |
| jakewarner | i just wrote my own deployment script | 17:43 |
| jakewarner | so that I can just add another node, add another server entry to my db and run the script | 17:44 |
| some1_2_ | ok | 17:44 |
| some1_2_ | but basically, getting the nodes running in the first place, that's my own problem | 17:44 |
| jakewarner | yes | 17:44 |
| some1_2_ | got it, thanks | 17:44 |
| some1_2_ | some people use juju for this? | 17:44 |
| jakewarner | Make sure you're using Ubuntu 12.04 or newer OR Fedora 18 | 17:44 |
| jakewarner | I'm more of a RHEL person, so I'm using Fedora 18 -- works very well. | 17:45 |
| jakewarner | I dunno, I didn't use 'juju' | 17:45 |
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| jakewarner | ev0ldave: I'm pressure sure a port is supposed to exist in that URL | 17:46 |
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| jakewarner | pretty sure** | 17:47 |
| ev0ldave | jakewarner: port 80 is DNAT to 8775 | 17:47 |
| ev0ldave | the traffic is there | 17:47 |
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| ev0ldave | ah, got it, for got to rip the quantum metadata secret out of nova.conf on the controller after i abandoned quantum | 17:49 |
| jakewarner | Why'd you abandon quantum? | 17:49 |
| ev0ldave | metadata would get so bogged down, if i tried to spin more than 4 or 5 instances it would fail | 17:50 |
| ev0ldave | didn't have time to spend more than a few days on it, still working on it in VMs but need this setup for dev sandbox by tomorrow | 17:50 |
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| fulanito | I am doing a fresh install ina multinode architecture | 17:58 |
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| e_steve | Hello everyone I have a quick question.. Is there a way to update_metadata during the instance launch OR as soon as the instance is active? I tried updating metadata immediately after launching the node but I got the error: "Cannot 'update_metadata' while in vm_state building" | 18:21 |
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| e_steve | Also how can I create an IMAGE from a nova instance, instead of a snapshot? | 18:23 |
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| e_steve | Anyone know about imaging an instance (Not snapshotting..) | 18:34 |
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| jkyle | I'm getting "Acces denied" errors from nova-network on a compute, but not from other services (compute, etc). I've checked and rechecked the username/pass in nova.conf | 18:35 |
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| gregmark | ALL: is there a centralized way to change the search domain offered by dnsmasq from openstacklocal? | 19:19 |
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| gregmark | dhcp_agent.ini — dhcp_domain=openstacklocal | 19:27 |
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| e_steve | Hello, is there a way to set instance metadata either 1) On instance launch or 2) When the instance is building// As soon as its active? | 19:38 |
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| b1tbkt | possible to use cinder with cephx? i'm running into per-host uuid issue. | 19:41 |
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| gregmark | b1tbkt: I do. What's your issue? | 19:46 |
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| b1tbkt | using http://ceph.com/docs/master/rbd/rbd-openstack/ - but for every compute host a unique uuid is generated (as expected) | 19:50 |
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| b1tbkt | cinder only takes one rbd_secret_uuid hto | 19:51 |
| b1tbkt | /hto/tho | 19:51 |
| gregmark | b1tbkt: pick one, stick with it | 19:51 |
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| gregmark | in other words, when you run virsh secret-set-value, use the same value for secret | 19:53 |
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| b1tbkt | I had tried that but virsh complains, 'secret not found' | 20:02 |
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| b1tbkt | the uuid is generated after the 'secret-fine --file.xml' - that uuid is what secret-set-value is expecting to see | 20:04 |
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| b1tbkt | ohh wait...i see how to add it to the xml now... | 20:06 |
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| magg | hello | 23:34 |
| magg | I'm following this tut: https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_MultiNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst | 23:34 |
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| magg | im wondering if i can install cinder on a separate node... | 23:34 |
| magg | i have a node that has 2 TB of storage and i want that one to be in charge of volumes | 23:35 |
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