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| yannovitch | salaeet : Devstack | 10:25 |
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| salaet | yannovitch:Devstack uses apt repositories for uypdates? | 10:28 |
| salaet | I think Devstack is only for development porpuses | 10:28 |
| yannovitch | no | 10:28 |
| yannovitch | a lot of people use it for quick test or deployment | 10:28 |
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| yannovitch | there is no all in one install apckage | 10:29 |
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| yannovitch | but you can install a xen or a mvm kernel | 10:29 |
| yannovitch | kvm i mean | 10:29 |
| yannovitch | and then boot on it | 10:29 |
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| yannovitch | then download devstack script | 10:30 |
| yannovitch | https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/blob/master/tools/xen/README.md | 10:30 |
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| salaet | yes I'm seeing | 10:30 |
| salaet | https://github.com/kjtanaka/deploy_grizzly and this | 10:30 |
| salaet | this last is using apt repositories | 10:30 |
| salaet | but is 13.04 | 10:30 |
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| salaet | I want all-in-one for my office , to isolate apps for our test and development | 10:31 |
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| salaet | When we use Essex I use devstack script but we upgrade and all fall | 10:32 |
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| giulivo | salaet, for an all-in-one | 10:43 |
| giulivo | I'd really suggest you to use packstack | 10:43 |
| giulivo | it will setup everything in minutes | 10:43 |
| giulivo | http://openstack.redhat.com/Quickstart | 10:44 |
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| salaet | giulivo: is apt? | 10:44 |
| giulivo | nope, rpm based, so centos/fedora | 10:44 |
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| salaet | :( | 10:44 |
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| giulivo | but still, most of the automated tasks are driven by puppet recipes | 10:46 |
| stace | giulivo: first time I am seeing packstack. Thanks, I use centos so this is cool! | 10:47 |
| salaet | giulivo: you know this script? | 10:47 |
| salaet | https://github.com/ilearnstack/cloudgear/blob/master/cloudgear.py | 10:47 |
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| giulivo | salaet, nope | 10:49 |
| giulivo | stace, see this for reviews submissions https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Packstack | 10:49 |
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| salaet | Devstack is an option for me , but I want that update easily like apt-get update && apt-get upgrade | 10:51 |
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| giulivo | salaet but I don't think that is the target for the devstack project | 10:52 |
| salaet | giulivo:I know it | 10:52 |
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| stace | giulivo: do you know if RedHat has endorsed/supports any particular SDN controller to work well with redhat Openstack? | 10:59 |
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| giulivo | stace, sdn ? | 11:00 |
| stace | giulivo: software defined networking. BigSwitch, NEC, Cisco one conteoller | 11:01 |
| stace | controller | 11:01 |
| stace | giulivo: I am guessing that's not your focus :) | 11:01 |
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| giulivo | not stricly but this is something complex | 11:02 |
| giulivo | because firstly you'll need to make sure there is a plugin in quantum for the specific hardware | 11:02 |
| giulivo | and secondly I'd expect the HW vendors to work on the plugins to support their hardware | 11:06 |
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| giulivo | so I'd suggest to keep an eye on the quantum development to see where the vendors are "better" engaged | 11:06 |
| giulivo | makes sense? | 11:07 |
| stace | giulivo: you can do it all in software, look at VMware (openvswitch). I was just wondering if Redhat had partnered with anyone yet to make it easier? I see them going into SDN (openDaylight for example) | 11:08 |
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| giulivo | oh so there is support for openvswitch | 11:09 |
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| Apsu` | OpenFlow controllers are a separate consideration from OpenFlow-capable switches. | 11:11 |
| Apsu` | OVS is extremely common, both on traditional server hardware and 'switch' form-factors. | 11:11 |
| stace | giulivo: yes https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Quantum | 11:11 |
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| Apsu` | Quantum supports OVS with static flow rules using the OVS plugin; no external controller is necessary | 11:12 |
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| Apsu` | But there's also plenty of vendor plugins, to use either their switches and/or their controllers. | 11:12 |
| stace | Apsu`: I am trying to set up a lab with an SDN controller + OpenStack to a little bit of scale in software only as i don't have any hardware. I was going to try and use mininet | 11:13 |
| Apsu` | First of all, you probably should stop saying "SDN controller". That term is very nebulous. Some people treat it as synonymous with OpenFlow controller, others think Quantum is an SDN controller, others have totally different ideas that mix various things together. | 11:14 |
| Apsu` | OpenFlow switches can talk to OpenFlow controllers, using the OpenFlow wire protocol; it's very specific and defined, and a controller implements certain semantic behavior. | 11:15 |
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| Apsu` | OpenDaylight's goal is to provide an OpenFlow controller reference, for instance. | 11:15 |
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| Apsu` | Notably, an OF controller isn't required to use OF switches. | 11:16 |
| Apsu` | Quantum + OVS plugin has no dynamic flow behavior (aside from traditional L2 switch MAC learning) | 11:17 |
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| stace | Apsu`: point taken. I need to create a topology with 2 or 3 Openstack hosts, an OpenFlow controller and 4 or 5 virtual openflow switches | 11:17 |
| stace | Apsu`: each Openstack host would be connected to a different openflow switch | 11:18 |
| Apsu` | Well, each host running an l2-agent (at minimum, to participate in a Quantum network) will have OVS running on it | 11:18 |
| Apsu` | Creating at Least one bridge to connect instance vifs to the quantum network | 11:19 |
| stace | Apsu`: true enough, didn't think of that | 11:19 |
| Apsu` | So if you want more switches through OVS, that's obviously quite doable, but | 11:19 |
| Apsu` | You might be designing topologies in your head that aren't required. | 11:20 |
| Apsu` | If your goal was network isolation or tenant isolation, or similar... Quantum has builtin approaches to that already | 11:20 |
| Apsu` | (VLAN, GRE) | 11:20 |
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| stace | My goal is to have a decent topology to hook into and use for a demo for my app. | 11:21 |
| Apsu` | Read the network manual and look at the example use-cases. | 11:21 |
| Apsu` | You can probably start there and tweak | 11:22 |
| stace | we visualise topologies to make it easier to monitor and manage | 11:22 |
| stace | so need a topology to start with | 11:22 |
| stace | I have done it with NEC's openflow controller but was wanting something more generic | 11:22 |
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| stace | thanks for the pointer, having OVS already there is a nice easy start | 11:23 |
| giulivo | Apsu`, a stupid question maybe but | 11:24 |
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| giulivo | what particular feature requires the namespace support in kernel for ovs? | 11:24 |
| Apsu` | http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-network/admin/content/ and http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-network/admin/content/app_demo.html | 11:24 |
| Apsu` | Well, first of all, network namespaces aren't related to OVS. | 11:25 |
| Apsu` | They're a general kernel feature that's just awesome in general. | 11:25 |
| Apsu` | Quantum specifically can make use of netns to allow overlapping IPs in VM networks. | 11:25 |
| Apsu` | Well, across VM networks I should say. | 11:26 |
| Apsu` | If you don't plan to give multiple tenants the same 10.0.0.0/24 or whatnot, you don't need it :P | 11:26 |
| giulivo | oh, that is different isolated tenants using the same subnet | 11:26 |
| Apsu` | Mmhmm | 11:26 |
| giulivo | correct? | 11:26 |
| Apsu` | That way they can attach dnsmasq (for DHCP) to bridge ports in different namespaces, using (for instance) the same DHCP server/gateway IP | 11:27 |
| Apsu` | So if you're using quantum + netns, 'ip netns list' will show you qdhcp-* namespaces, and that's where the DHCP bridge ports/IPs will live | 11:27 |
| giulivo | thanks for helping with that, need to dig further into it :) | 11:29 |
| giulivo | is that by having multiple ovs switches per namespace? | 11:29 |
| giulivo | well, one per each namespace? | 11:29 |
| Apsu` | Actually no. Interestingly, the same OVS switch can have ports in different namespaces. | 11:29 |
| Apsu` | Keep in mind, being an OpenFlow switch, the behavior of traffic between ports is completely controllable in every way | 11:30 |
| Apsu` | Including not allowing cross-namespace ports to broadcast to each other, or other potentially hazardous behavior with overlapping networks | 11:30 |
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| inc0 | hello, heres my case: I have network with external dhcp server, I want to use it as my flat network. How can I configure quantum to use this external dhcp and pull addresses for vms from it? | 18:34 |
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| jakewarner | Does anyone have any ideas regarding: https://ask.openstack.org/question/1337/errno-113-no-route-to-host-when-vncing-into-an-instace/ | 20:02 |
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| farsonic | quick question if anyone is about | 20:51 |
| farsonic | I've set up a new grizzly install.... | 20:51 |
| farsonic | can I use storage on my compute device, or do I need to have external iSCIS (or other) storage for Cinder ? | 20:52 |
| farsonic | I can create volumes but they are always listed in the "error" state | 20:52 |
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| EmilienM | farsonic: which backend are you using in Cinder , | 20:54 |
| EmilienM | ? | 20:54 |
| farsonic | nova | 20:54 |
| farsonic | this is my first initial setup….so getting a crash course here | 20:54 |
| farsonic | so excuse my ignorance | 20:55 |
| EmilienM | farsonic: no, I mean which backend storage | 20:55 |
| ekarlso- | EmilienM: yo! | 20:55 |
| EmilienM | farsonic: paste your cinder.conf please | 20:55 |
| farsonic | ah, well I have an iSCSI server | 20:55 |
| EmilienM | ekarlso-: o/ | 20:55 |
| farsonic | if needed | 20:55 |
| EmilienM | ok | 20:55 |
| ekarlso- | EmilienM: what do you guys use for Auth ? | 20:55 |
| EmilienM | farsonic: I suggest you using LVM backend for starting | 20:56 |
| EmilienM | ekarlso-: ? | 20:56 |
| ekarlso- | EmilienM: as in a backend for keystone | 20:56 |
| ekarlso- | sql ? | 20:56 |
| farsonic | back in a bit | 20:56 |
| farsonic | happy to use LVM | 20:56 |
| EmilienM | ekarlso-: all available :) | 20:57 |
| EmilienM | ekarlso-: I've never tried Active Directory support | 20:57 |
| ekarlso- | EmilienM: using ldap ? | 20:57 |
| EmilienM | ekarlso-: yep, I've tried | 20:58 |
| ekarlso- | ok :) | 20:58 |
| ekarlso- | EmilienM: you gonna investigate opendaylight ? :) | 20:58 |
| ekarlso- | for netwokring | 20:58 |
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| farsonic | right.back | 21:25 |
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| farsonic | EmilienM: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Y2DHnDbk | 21:26 |
| EmilienM | fa11enbeck: vgdisplay ? | 21:27 |
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| EmilienM | farsonic: check this out : http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/basic-install/apt/content/basic-install_controller.html#basic-install_controller-cinder | 21:29 |
| EmilienM | farsonic: make sure that you have a vg for cinder | 21:29 |
| farsonic | ok | 21:29 |
| EmilienM | called cinder-volumes | 21:29 |
| farsonic | going through it now | 21:29 |
| farsonic | presumably the storage is on the compute node right? | 21:29 |
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| farsonic | hmm, ok…thats on the controller node | 21:33 |
| farsonic | might be simpler to use my dedicated iscsi host | 21:34 |
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| jakewarner | EmilienM: Are you pretty familar with VNC related things? | 21:50 |
| EmilienM | jakewarner: quite enough to make it working in OpenStack ;-) | 21:50 |
| jakewarner | EmilienM: any ideas for: https://ask.openstack.org/question/1337/errno-113-no-route-to-host-when-vncing-into-an-instace/ | 21:50 |
| jakewarner | ? | 21:50 |
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| EmilienM | jakewarner: it seems that your cloud controller #1 can't join 192.168.1.202 (which is compute if I well understand) | 21:52 |
| jakewarner | I can ping it and everything | 21:52 |
| jakewarner | I have instances running on compute2 too | 21:53 |
| jakewarner | literally everything (networking, etc) works except for VNC | 21:53 |
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| EmilienM | jakewarner: vncserver_proxyclient_address is your 192... address ? | 21:55 |
| jakewarner | yes sir | 21:56 |
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| EmilienM | mhh | 21:59 |
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| EmilienM | jakewarner: change vncserver_listen by 0.0.0.0 | 22:00 |
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| EmilienM | even if it cange anything | 22:00 |
| EmilienM | it's better | 22:00 |
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| jakewarner | ok, changed | 22:01 |
| jakewarner | still doesn't work though | 22:01 |
| EmilienM | and paste both nova.conf of compute & controller with a grep to vnc, please | 22:01 |
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| Wacky13 | would any one know how to help me fix my verizon HTC Rhyme? or know where i can get the original zip file for my phone? | 22:02 |
| EmilienM | jakewarner: ^ | 22:02 |
| jakewarner | EmilienM: Updated ticket | 22:03 |
| jakewarner | err "issue" | 22:03 |
| jakewarner | https://ask.openstack.org/question/1337/errno-113-no-route-to-host-when-vncing-into-an-instace/ | 22:03 |
| jakewarner | also just realized I had question #1337 | 22:03 |
| jakewarner | now I feel special | 22:03 |
| Wacky13 | idk what i did to my phone but when i run the RUU app its not working for me | 22:03 |
| EmilienM | \o/ | 22:04 |
| EmilienM | jakewarner: clean all your flags with : | 22:07 |
| EmilienM | jakewarner: nova.conf for compute : http://paste.openstack.org/show/37438/ | 22:08 |
| jakewarner | I'm confused, what? | 22:08 |
| EmilienM | jakewarner: nova.conf for controller : http://paste.openstack.org/show/37439/ | 22:09 |
| EmilienM | restart nova-consoleauth, novnc, nova-novncproxy, etc etc on controller, and nova-compute on compute node. | 22:09 |
| EmilienM | jakewarner: then, tell me if it works | 22:09 |
| jakewarner | what do you mean "clean all your flags" | 22:09 |
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| EmilienM | jakewarner: drop all VNC related flags | 22:10 |
| EmilienM | and put mine | 22:10 |
| EmilienM | jakewarner: I'm leaving in 2 min | 22:12 |
| ekarlso- | EmilienM: going out ? ; 9 | 22:12 |
| EmilienM | ekarlso-: no, going to bed. | 22:13 |
| EmilienM | jakewarner: working ? | 22:14 |
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| jakewarner | nope :( | 22:15 |
| jakewarner | EmilienM: I'll msg you tomorrow or something, i'm not in a crazy rush | 22:15 |
| jakewarner | EmilienM: have a good night | 22:15 |
| EmilienM | jakewarner: thx, let me know if you need. you know where to find me ;) | 22:15 |
| ekarlso- | need help jakewarner ? | 22:15 |
| jakewarner | ekarlso-: https://ask.openstack.org/question/1337/errno-113-no-route-to-host-when-vncing-into-an-instace/ | 22:16 |
| ekarlso- | hmm | 22:17 |
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| ekarlso- | sorry jakewarner, a bit unsure | 22:18 |
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