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| sudorandom | http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-identity-service/2.0/content/ so… what are endoints? | 02:25 |
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| h6w | I believe they're points where information becomes available to something else. | 02:26 |
| sudorandom | h6w: check the spelling | 02:26 |
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| h6w | oh, I just presumed it was your typo. | 02:27 |
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| sudorandom | hah, yeah. it's on several pages | 02:27 |
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| rkeene | When I go to view the VNC-based console of a system it tries to direct me to an URL that has the IP of the compute node the VM is running on (which will obviously never work... why would I be able to connect to a compute node ?) | 03:27 |
| rkeene | When I try to view the VNC-based console through the OpenStack dashboard, I should say | 03:28 |
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| lpb | rkeene: did you check your nova.conf for the setting of novncproxy_host? | 03:46 |
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| rkeene | lpb, I found the answer in the FAQ -- thanks ! | 03:59 |
| rkeene | (It seems quite dumb that the compute node has to supply the address of the proxy/gateway host) | 03:59 |
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| jakewarner | rkeene: I believe it is that way for companies that have massive clouds and need to have multiple servers that support VNC connections | 04:35 |
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| koolhead17 | hi all | 05:46 |
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| agh | Hello to all | 06:11 |
| agh | I've a big issue with my Grizzly installation. | 06:11 |
| agh | My Quantum security groups does not want to work (every traffic is open) | 06:12 |
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| agh | I think that my problem is on the Compute nodes, where one iptables rule does not match. | 06:12 |
| agh | Here ishere is the ouput of iptables-save -c : http://paste.openstack.org/show/37860/ | 06:13 |
| agh | The problem is, i think, that no troffic goes in the table FORWARD. | 06:14 |
| agh | Could you please, send me your "iptables-save -c" ouput to compare ? Thanks | 06:14 |
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| hackoo | Do we have some document where I can see what we have new in Quantum as compared to Nova-Network. I tried googling but most of the documents talks about Quantum only. Please refer the online links if you have some, help would be highly appreciated. | 06:33 |
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| agh | Hello to all | 07:38 |
| agh | I've a big issue with my Grizzly installation. | 07:38 |
| agh | My Quantum security groups does not want to work (every traffic is open)I think that my problem is on the Compute nodes, where one iptables rule does not | 07:38 |
| agh | Here ishere is the ouput of iptables-sav | 07:38 |
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| agh | http://paste.openstack.org/show/37860/ | 07:38 |
| agh | The problem is, i think, that no troffic goes in the table FORWARD. Could you please, send me your "iptables-save -c" ouput to compare ? Thanks | 07:38 |
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| jasper22 | Hi | 08:43 |
| jasper22 | I need a little help configuring keystone in the very beginning | 08:43 |
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| jasper22 | Just installed keystone on Ubuntu and as I can see there's no 'users' in keystone database | 08:44 |
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| jasper22 | I'm trying to create user 'admin' but keystone always return: Invalid OpenStack Identity credentials. | 08:44 |
| jasper22 | how I can insert at least admin user so I can continue creating keystone configuration ? | 08:45 |
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| jasper22 | OOO.. found it | 08:46 |
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| jasper22 | Why SWIFT doesn't listed in OpenStack Basic Install Guide GRIZZLY ? | 09:19 |
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| spauracchio_ | jasonoz, its normal | 09:21 |
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| jasper22_ | Could someone help me to define Keystone endpoint ? | 09:37 |
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| jasper22_ | for example if SWIFT server installed on another computer in the network with ip 1.1.1.1 | 09:38 |
| jasper22_ | what should I define in keystone endpoint for swift service ? | 09:38 |
| jasper22_ | is the 1.1.1.1 is publicurl ? or internalurl ? | 09:38 |
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| agh | Hello, | 09:54 |
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| agh | is there a way to make "EBS backed AMI" with openstack and Ceph ? | 09:54 |
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| nehaljwani | I have setup openstack on a single machine using the packstack script. Now I want to add a nova-compute node. What method should I follow? | 09:56 |
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| NuxRo | nehaljwani: edit your packstack answer file and add the IP of the new server in the COMPUTE_NODES section | 10:01 |
| NuxRo | then run packstack again | 10:01 |
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| nehaljwani | NuxRo: I did the same thing.. but its not working. nove-* services get installed in the new node. But it doesn't come up in nova-manage service list | 10:02 |
| NuxRo | then check the logs on the new server, something obviously didnt go according to plan :) | 10:03 |
| NuxRo | try to restart the openstack-nova-compute service while tailing the logs, see what comes up | 10:03 |
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| nehaljwani | NuxRo: is it necessary that both machines have to have different hostnames? | 10:04 |
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| NuxRo | nehaljwani: hm, never thought about that, but it's possible having the same hostname might confused keystone or qpid | 10:05 |
| NuxRo | i'd change that hostname ASAP and restart the service / reboot | 10:06 |
| nehaljwani | NuxRo: yes, hostname did the trick :D | 10:07 |
| NuxRo | hehe | 10:08 |
| chrissco | Hi, i installed Openstack with this guide: https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/master/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst Now i want to associate floating ip's to my vm's. must i create a new network with a new router? | 10:09 |
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| nehaljwani | NuxRo: Where are the logs for migrating an instance stored? | 10:09 |
| NuxRo | nehaljwani: good question, I'd check the controller logs as well as both server's logs, the "sender" and recipient of the VM | 10:11 |
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| NuxRo | as in, the nova-compute logs | 10:11 |
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| nehaljwani | NuxRo: receiver says: Instance not resizing, skipping migration. | 10:13 |
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| NuxRo | :-/ | 10:14 |
| NuxRo | what command did you use? | 10:14 |
| nehaljwani | NuxRo: I did it in the dashboard | 10:14 |
| NuxRo | so, you tried to resize or what exactly? | 10:15 |
| nehaljwani | NuxRo: I just clicked on migrate instance | 10:15 |
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| NuxRo | aha | 10:16 |
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| nehaljwani | NuxRo: I removed that instance and tried to create another one. Now I get the error: NovaException: vlead.test.one is not a valid node managed by this compute host. (vlead.test.one is my new node) | 10:17 |
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| NuxRo | hm | 10:18 |
| NuxRo | does "nova-manage service list" show the new node? | 10:18 |
| nehaljwani | NuxRo: Yes, that too with a smiley | 10:18 |
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| NuxRo | beats me, try google or the RDO forum | 10:21 |
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| nehaljwani | NuxRo: Logs on new node say: http://fpaste.org/15182/raw/ | 10:22 |
| NuxRo | QuantumClientException: [Errno 113] EHOSTUNREACH <- i think this is the important bit | 10:24 |
| NuxRo | but are you using qUANTUM? | 10:24 |
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| NuxRo | RDO comes with nova-network | 10:24 |
| NuxRo | not quantum | 10:24 |
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| nehaljwani | It comes with quantum. because the script installs from quantum too | 10:25 |
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| NuxRo | well, yes, maybe it gets installed but it's not in use | 10:25 |
| NuxRo | how did you install packstack? from their yum repo? | 10:25 |
| nehaljwani | yes | 10:26 |
| NuxRo | ok, no idea why the quantum error | 10:26 |
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| nehaljwani | Currently, I am testing this setup in my college LAN. I am in the subnet 10.3.3.0/24 and original node ip is 10.3.3.57 and that of the new node is 10.3.3.57. How should I configure the network for openstack? | 10:26 |
| NuxRo | please post your problem on http://openstack.redhat.com/forum/ | 10:26 |
| nehaljwani | I am having only one physical network interface on each of these machines | 10:26 |
| NuxRo | hm | 10:27 |
| NuxRo | it still shouldn't be a problem i guess, but as i said, I'm a little lost here, better ask for help on the forums | 10:27 |
| nehaljwani | Could you please tell me the correct configuration of the grizzly_openstack.cfg ? Maybe I am going wrong there | 10:28 |
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| nehaljwani | Or maybe in setting up the network for the VMs | 10:28 |
| NuxRo | packstack does it for you automatically | 10:28 |
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| nehaljwani | i didn't use the allinone option | 10:29 |
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| NuxRo | I'm not sure that matters | 10:29 |
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| nehaljwani | My current configuration is http://fpaste.org/15183/raw/ | 10:30 |
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| nehaljwani | Is it not possible in the UI to choose which compute node should run a particular instance? | 10:31 |
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| NuxRo | I don't think it is, the scheduler picks a node | 10:32 |
| NuxRo | usually the one with more resources available | 10:32 |
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| nehaljwani | The one it is picking now has very less resources. The VM is of 512MB and the node has only 2GN of RAM whereas the original node is having 16GB of RAM out of which 12+ GB are free | 10:34 |
| NuxRo | odd, not sure how the scheduler picks them :-/ | 10:34 |
| NuxRo | there might be a config option to set this though | 10:34 |
| nehaljwani | Anyway, can my problem have anything to do with iptables? | 10:34 |
| NuxRo | if you want to make sure it's not iptable could stop the iptables service on both nodes and repeat the move | 10:35 |
| NuxRo | if it still fails, it's not iptables, or not only iptables :) | 10:35 |
| NuxRo | i also suggets you read this http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/ch_scheduling.html | 10:36 |
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| nehaljwani | docs.openstack.org is kinda very old. mnay of its commands don't even work | 10:37 |
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| nehaljwani | NuxRo: Disabling iptables, resulted in spawning the VM on the new node. But migration failed | 10:39 |
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| mcolombo_ | hi guys, anybody can help me with quantum-lbaas? | 10:53 |
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| nehaljwani | During live migration, Command: ssh 10.3.3.58 mkdir -p /var/lib/nova/instances/1918917a-aae3-4ec8-9ecb-178b87b46691; Exit code: 255; Stdout: '' ; Stderr: 'Host key verification failed.\r\n' | 11:02 |
| nehaljwani | What can be the possible error? | 11:02 |
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| ranjan | nehaljwani, i am new to openstack but the error seems to be something related to ssh key verification | 11:10 |
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| tat- | nehaljwani: my best guess is that you have reinstalled the node at 10.3.3.58, giving it a new ssh host key | 11:11 |
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| nehaljwani | tat- : How do I do that? | 11:12 |
| nehaljwani | openstack tried to ssh into the other machine via which user? | 11:12 |
| nehaljwani | because if I am root, I can ssh without any passord from and to both machines | 11:13 |
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| tat- | nehaljwani: I guess the migration runs as a specific user. you need to check that in the docs. locate ~/.ssh/known_hosts and remove the old host key. | 11:14 |
| nehaljwani | tat- : Which specific user? | 11:14 |
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| tat- | nehaljwani: I don't know. you need to check the documentation | 11:15 |
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| hackoo | I installed OpenStack Grizzly. Now due to some reason I need to have some different IP of the OpenStack APIs and Dashboard. How can I do this, is there an strait forward way so that other application which I want to user for calling OpenStack API work fine with the new IP address ? | 11:19 |
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| rgeri77 | hi | 11:45 |
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| rgeri77 | we are at the Openstack CEE | 11:46 |
| rgeri77 | with Red Hat | 11:46 |
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| rgeri77 | we try to install Openstack on Fedora 19 beta | 11:46 |
| rgeri77 | but we get puppet error | 11:46 |
| rgeri77 | where can i report this problem ? | 11:46 |
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| ersi | I'd guess preferebly to the RH guys that are present? | 11:48 |
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| rgeri77 | yes they are here | 11:49 |
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| rgeri77 | they said i need to make a bug report | 11:49 |
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| ersi | rgeri77: If you're going to file an bug/issue - the bug tracker is on https://launchpad.net/openstack | 11:54 |
| ersi | Direct link to bug tracker: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack | 11:54 |
| ersi | The previous link was to the Project Overview | 11:54 |
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| nehaljwani | I have changed the hostname of a compute node | 12:04 |
| nehaljwani | now on migration I get host key verification failed | 12:04 |
| nehaljwani | how do I add the new key? | 12:04 |
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| krypto | Can any one say how is it possible for quantum to create multiple vm with same private ip on different tenants. | 12:14 |
| Titanium | NAT | 12:14 |
| Titanium | oh | 12:14 |
| Titanium | VLANs | 12:14 |
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| krypto | i thought it will be using GRE tunneling,so that means for tenant separation, intelligent switch :( | 12:17 |
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| phschwartz | krypto: Is that a question or a comment? Sounds a little confused if it is a comment. GRE runs by default with tenant seperation as each subnet created is in a different gre segment unless you override the creation on the cli and force them all to the same. | 12:19 |
| phschwartz | I have 30 tenants all on a different segment using the same ip block on seperate subnets that are segregated for each tenant. | 12:20 |
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| krypto | i manually tried GRE tunneling with openvswitch,but coudln't extend to more than one host. | 12:21 |
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| phschwartz | krypto: What error were you having? I currently run ovs+gre on a 100 hypervisor setup | 12:22 |
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| krypto | i am having 2 separate section one running nova-network | 12:23 |
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| krypto | and other with ovs and no open stack | 12:23 |
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| krypto | i have created isolated bridge and then used GRE tunneling between two hosts | 12:24 |
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| krypto | thanks phschwartz it looks like quantum is using GRE for tenant separation,now i know its possible since you did it on 100 hosts. :) | 12:28 |
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| jasper22 | Can not add user to tenant | 13:09 |
| jasper22 | I'm doing 'keystone user-role-add' that complete successfully but I can not see tenantID in user data | 13:10 |
| jasper22 | what I'm doing wrong ? | 13:10 |
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| koolhead17 | ttx, ping | 13:17 |
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| ffr | hi there, is there anybody who can help me to configure ceilometer ? | 13:32 |
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| sstent | has anyone tried migrating to share_dhcp_address being true? FlatDHCP network on Grizzly | 13:54 |
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| get | hi all | 13:57 |
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| get | i've encountered an error during creation of first vm in openstack apache frontend, qemu-img: Could not open '/var/lib/nova/instances/_base/ephemeral_0_20_None, did anyone know why this is caused ? | 13:58 |
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| get | the rror is shown in nova.log | 13:58 |
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| lorin1 | get: Is that file present on your machine? | 14:11 |
| get | nope | 14:11 |
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| ali | hello all i download centos image from https://github.com/rackerjoe/oz-image-build and connected to it by virt-manager to update the image and add some features to it and i need root password or any way to access it | 14:16 |
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| rackerjoe | ali: the root passwords are random and not stored after the image is created. Just use ssh key injection when you boot the instance and you can access it with ssh. | 14:17 |
| rackerjoe | if you want to stick with the virt-manager route then there are a number of ways to boot the image into a shell so that you can reset the root password | 14:18 |
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| ali | ok rackerjoe thanks i will try to run it in single mode | 14:21 |
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| Apsu` | rackerjoe: Does that Cent image let you systemd.target=rescue or emergency? | 14:22 |
| rackerjoe | ali: you might have to add init=/bin/sh to your grub command line and then remount / as rw. | 14:22 |
| rackerjoe | Apsu`: I don't recall | 14:22 |
| Apsu` | If so, it's cleaner than init= | 14:23 |
| Apsu` | Pulls up the full udev/device stack, spawns a getty, allows you to isolate to a different target after you fix things, without rebooting, etc | 14:23 |
| Apsu` | Ah, it's system.unit={emergency,rescue}.target | 14:24 |
| Apsu` | systemd* | 14:24 |
| Apsu` | I should probably learn how to type | 14:24 |
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| ali | i tryied it and i got this message init rc main process (898) killed by term signal | 14:26 |
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| mgw | Is it normal to have to run ./stack.sh every time a devstack machine is rebooted? Is there a way to make it skip some of the package installs? | 14:55 |
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| BobBall | I believe it is normal mgw - XenServer's devstack setup makes some custom changes to automatically start stack.sh since it runs in a VM but I guess devstack doesn't expect that it _has_ to be running when your machine is a work machine as well as devstack | 14:57 |
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| mgw | BobBal: Thanks | 15:16 |
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| zrankfappa | hi all | 15:24 |
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| agh | hello | 15:33 |
| agh | how to tell Nova to boot on virtioo disk ? | 15:33 |
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| jproulx1 | agh to boot from a volume see http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-compute/admin/content/instance-creation.html#boot_from_volume, is that what you are looking to do? | 15:38 |
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| agh | jproulx1: Thanks, but no | 15:39 |
| agh | jproulx1: the fact is i can't attach a volume to an instance, because the device is "IDE" in libvirt | 15:40 |
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| agh | jproulx1: i want to use virtio | 15:40 |
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| jproulx1 | Oh I see, in my setup virtio happens by default. | 15:43 |
| agh | jproulx1: yes but I use Ceph | 15:43 |
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| monst | anyone using quantum flat network with just an external network? | 15:56 |
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| jasper22 | Could someone help me here ? | 16:26 |
| jasper22 | I explicity added user to tenant with admin role but when I issue command user-get it returns with tenantId:null | 16:27 |
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| osphy | I launched vm successfully using devstack. | 16:28 |
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| osphy | Connectivity between host and VM is fine. Able to ssh. But could not get the internet connection to the vm. what is the way to allow vm to access internet ? | 16:29 |
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| dgux | Can anyone guide me to documentation that discusses attaching public IPs directly to VM's? (No NAT) | 16:59 |
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| monst | dgux: I am looking for the same thing | 17:00 |
| monst | let me know if you find anything | 17:01 |
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| dgux | You got it | 17:01 |
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| monst | quantum flat network should do it, but we are having issues getting it to route | 17:01 |
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| dgux | We got that working in a small test environment, but it doesn't feel very polished. | 17:05 |
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| alop | I had a question about the ComputeFilter | 17:32 |
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| alop | the docs seem to imply that ComputeFilter uses the flavor to determine if a host has resources available for an instance | 17:33 |
| alop | I want to do overcommitting, using CoreFilter and RamFitler | 17:33 |
| alop | I believe that using "ComputeFilter + CoreFilter + RamFilter" will prevent over committing | 17:34 |
| alop | does that sound right? | 17:34 |
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| mgw | is there any risk of devstack messing with my LAN's dhcp? | 17:35 |
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| Otaviobg | hi there | 17:55 |
| Otaviobg | I have a question regarding the keystone rules | 17:55 |
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| Otaviobg | anyone online? | 17:58 |
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| gmi | Otaviobg:not sure I can help with keystone rules, but ask and we'll see | 18:04 |
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| kwadronaut | meh, i send the right x-auth-project-id, but i get a .. security group ... not found for project [id of my default project] | 18:06 |
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| Otaviobg | I've created a rule, like this one "domain_id:%(domain_id)s" but it´s not working... so, debuging the rule checker code I could see that the 'creds' variable is coming OK, but the 'target' variable is coming empty | 18:07 |
| Otaviobg | is this right? | 18:07 |
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| Otaviobg | I'm usgin the domain-scopped token | 18:07 |
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| gmi | Otaviobg: sorry, I cannot help with this, but you can try pinging Dolph Mathews or maybe Adam Young or other Keystone core dev | 18:14 |
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| Otaviobg | gmi: thanks, I will :) | 18:14 |
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| gmi | has anybody tested the egress security rules in Quantum? I'm trying and they don't seem to work, or I'm not doing it right | 18:17 |
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| mgw | earlier monst and dgux were discussing non-NATed public IPs | 18:20 |
| mgw | this is an issue for me as well — what are the options? | 18:21 |
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| lpb | mgw: do you mean a flat network? | 18:25 |
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| mgw | lpb: does that allow both private and public IPs on an isntance with no NAT? | 18:48 |
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| bkotewall | hey, I'm trying to get some consistency here: glance image-list and nova image-list don't show the same images | 18:51 |
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| bkotewall | nova image-list shows the snapshots of everyone, but glance image-list does not | 18:51 |
| bkotewall | I am using keystone to auth for glance though, my test user is part of the same project as the user who created the snapshot | 18:51 |
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| bkotewall | what should I look for ? | 18:51 |
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| jhujhiti | why does this interface on a quantum router show link down according to ovs-ofctl when ip netns exec <correct namespace> ifconfig <correct interface> shows it up? | 18:59 |
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| jhujhiti | taking any and all ideas, because i'm completely stumped | 19:00 |
| Guest41695 | hello friends i am trying to configure openstack essex ubuntu on virtualbox , but i am faing problem while ssh , no route to host | 19:00 |
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| Guest41695 | hello friends i am trying to configure openstack essex ubuntu on virtualbox , but i am faing problem while ssh , no route to host | 19:01 |
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| Guest41695 | hello friends i am trying to configure openstack essex ubuntu on virtualbox , but i am faing problem while ssh , no route to host | 19:04 |
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| ev0ldave | wtf | 19:05 |
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| ev0ldave | guest41695: make sure your ssh interface is not being added into openstack bridge connections | 19:06 |
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| ev0ldave | rather, your complaint is rather broad, is this to your hosts or to guest instances? | 19:07 |
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| Guest41695 | i dont know i just installed ubuntu 12.04 server x64 on windows, so i am trying to do ssh from ubuntu terminal and vnc console as ubuntu images does not support | 19:09 |
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| Guest41695 | i dont know i just installed ubuntu 12.04 server x64 on windows, so i am trying to do ssh from ubuntu terminal and vnc console not working as ubuntu images does not support it | 19:09 |
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| ev0ldave | Guest41695: sounds like a question for #vbox | 19:13 |
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| Guest41695 | ya i am doing this on virtual box , | 19:13 |
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| ev0ldave | what i mean is type: /j #vbox | 19:14 |
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| Guest41695 | ya i am doing this on virtual box , any solution | 19:17 |
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| mgw | In a normal openstack network, where is the NAT being done? | 19:20 |
| mgw | for floating IPs | 19:20 |
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| gmi | mgw: on the node running nova-network or L3 agent if running Quantum | 19:21 |
| mgw | gmI: Thanks. Which is preferable? L3 agent or nova-network? | 19:22 |
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| ev0ldave | gmi: did you see my answer to windows metadata issue? | 19:23 |
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| ev0ldave | Guest41695: your issue isn't openstack related and while it would be great to help everyone with every issue a lot of us dont have time to delve into the issues that a virtual box related.. That is why i suggested going to the virtualbox chat room | 19:24 |
| gmi | mgw:it depends on your goals, Quantum is using openvswitch and allows for complex architectures but it comes with limitations of its own, nova-network has no SPOF if used in multi-host mode but it has limited scalability and uses more IP resources, among other issues | 19:24 |
| mgw | gmi: but in a network of a few dozen nodes, nova-network would be more robust, then? | 19:25 |
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| gmi | ev0ldave: yes, about manually adding a route through the dhcp option? | 19:25 |
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| mgw | gmi: also, only public traffic would proxy through the network nodes, right? | 19:25 |
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| ev0ldave | yeah :( i didn't see it in my essex or folsom environment because i was using multi_host | 19:26 |
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| Guest41695 | ok ev0ldave , could you please help me for this http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/index.html , how many host do i need for this and can you please tell me interfaces file | 19:27 |
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| gmi | mgw: yes, only Internet traffic would pass through the quantum network node, but you would still have a lot of traffic going through a single or few nodes (you can have the L3 agent running on multiple servers, but you would still take a hit when a L3 node would crash) | 19:28 |
| Guest41695 | i can create this cloud on lan environment , no private ip range , | 19:28 |
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| ev0ldave | guest41695: try this step by step guide on a single server until you are comfortable branching out: https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_SingleNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst | 19:30 |
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| ev0ldave | there is also a multi server install guide by the same people | 19:30 |
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| ev0ldave | when you say lan environment do you mean wan? | 19:31 |
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| sygnous | getting this error when trying to install RDO : ERROR : Error during puppet run : err: /Stage[main]/Quantum::Agents::Dhcp/Package[dnsmasq]/ensure: change from absent to present failed: Could not find package dnsmasqdnsmasq-utils | 19:32 |
| sygnous | anybody use RDO? | 19:32 |
| sygnous | haven't seen anything on the forums / google about it | 19:32 |
| ashp | I did, recently, but everything worked fairly smoothly for me | 19:32 |
| ashp | no missing packages etc :/ | 19:33 |
| ashp | if you do a yum repolist do you get any errors or problems? | 19:33 |
| sygnous | it's looking for two packages that don't exist, oddly | 19:33 |
| sygnous | $dnsmasq_packages = ['dnsmasq-base', 'dnsmasq-utils'] | 19:33 |
| sygnous | there is only a dnsmasq package | 19:33 |
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| ashp | weird, they existed for me on centos64 | 19:34 |
| mgw | gmi: "Nova-network has a model where the L3, NAT, and DHCP processing happen on the compute node itself, rather than a dedicated networking node" is this something that's not recommended? It seems it would reduce SPOF, no? | 19:34 |
| mgw | (that's from the docs) | 19:34 |
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| phschwartz | mgw: nova-network is being depricated in Havana. The ideal and prefered is quantum now. | 19:35 |
| sygnous | yeah, I'm not sure what is going on, lol | 19:35 |
| ev0ldave | mgw: nova-network doesn't have the bells and whistles of openvswitch. in quantum you can share a vlan between any number of tenants where with nova-network vlan to tenant is one to one | 19:35 |
| ashp | sygnous: maybe an EPEL package? | 19:35 |
| mgw | phschwartz: so… quantum is better, but does it introduce SPOF? | 19:35 |
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| sygnous | packstack install epel as part of it's process | 19:36 |
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| ashp | ah, no idea then, sorry man | 19:36 |
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| sygnous | exactly, lol | 19:36 |
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| sygnous | I'd hate to have to go to a free OS and cost RH some money on licensing :P | 19:36 |
| mgw | ev0ldave: thanks…so openvswitch is ready for production in grizzly already? | 19:36 |
| sygnous | well, I would love to do that, but... enterprise... meh | 19:37 |
| ev0ldave | mgw: i had to abandon it as it was causing me great pains in slowness with metadata. it seems metadata was added as an afterthought | 19:37 |
| phschwartz | mgw: If quantum goes down it will stop you from creating new network links or assign ip's. But things will still run that are already running. Best would probally be an HA setup for your network node. | 19:37 |
| phschwartz | ev0ldave: what type of metadata slowdown? I don't see that at all, but I do see extra network overhead between VMs | 19:38 |
| ev0ldave | it was also causing horizon to move at a snails pace | 19:38 |
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| Guest41695 | no its LAN , i can arrange 3 host with IPs192.170.1.x , no other IPs range is available | 19:39 |
| ev0ldave | phschwartz: if i spun one or two instances at a time it would be fine, if i did 5 or more the first few work then time outs | 19:39 |
| phschwartz | ev0ldave: hmm, I haven't seen that happen on any of my setups. But I am doing bonded 10g on each node. | 19:39 |
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| phschwartz | ev0ldave: very weird. I have automation code on one cluster that has started 100 vm's at the same time with no issue. | 19:39 |
| ev0ldave | phschwartz: same setup.. using cisco ucs with bonded links to two fabric backplanes | 19:39 |
| phschwartz | ev0ldave: ovs+gre? | 19:40 |
| ev0ldave | phschwartz: ovs+vlan | 19:40 |
| ev0ldave | phschwartz: two installs following msknibilel's guides loosely as there were some things wrong | 19:41 |
| ev0ldave | there were 3 or 4 others in here with the same metadata issues | 19:41 |
| monst | mgw: you figure out how to do flat network with just external ips and no fixed? | 19:42 |
| sygnous | interesting, those packages do exist on centos 6.4 | 19:42 |
| sygnous | wtf, lol | 19:42 |
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| phschwartz | ev0ldave: might be related to ovs+vlan. I haven't seen that issue with ovs+gre at all. | 19:42 |
| mgw | monst: no, I'm looking at how to do what we need with NAT instead | 19:42 |
| ev0ldave | phschwartz: it felt like something was flooding nova-api because i even bypassed quantum metadata proxy with a DNAT | 19:42 |
| monst | hmm | 19:42 |
| monst | anyone know if it is possible to route the fixed ips external without dealing with floats | 19:43 |
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| ev0ldave | phschwartz: gonna get back to set it up again I just didn't have the time to figure it out before I had someone breathing down my neck | 19:43 |
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| sygnous | ashp: did you do an interactive install | 19:47 |
| sygnous | ? | 19:47 |
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| mgw | phschwartz: just to clarify…. no traffic actually passes through the L3 nodes? So they're only there for configuration, not actively routing traffic? | 19:53 |
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| mgw | btw, is it acceptable to post a job link here? We're looking for a full time sysadmin. | 19:56 |
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| sygnous | ashp: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=849400 | 20:00 |
| sygnous | looks like that fixed it... enabling that optional repo | 20:00 |
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| jwb- | Anyone available who can talk to me about cinder drivers, specifically as it relates to provisioning iscsi volumes off a SAN, then having the cinder-volume host copy_image_to_volume | 20:02 |
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| cakiiooo | Hi! how many of you guys have a special ladyfriend that lets you fist her asshole? | 20:06 |
| ev0ldave | mgw: if it's ok to talk fisting… why not | 20:09 |
| mgw | lol | 20:09 |
| mgw | I guess it would be an improvement. | 20:09 |
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| mgw | so… the job posting is here: http://www.wtiajobs.org/employers/post_window.php?post_id=3705 | 20:10 |
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| ev0ldave | oo, seattle, where at? | 20:12 |
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| mgw | ev0ldave: 2nd and University | 20:15 |
| ev0ldave | heh, i'm at 4th and university | 20:16 |
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| mgw | meaning you live there, or that's where you're working at the moment? | 20:17 |
| ev0ldave | yeah | 20:17 |
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| mgw | ev0ldave: i just saw nova-dns. Is this an active project? | 20:19 |
| ev0ldave | no | 20:19 |
| sygnous | isn't monniker or something the dns project? | 20:19 |
| ev0ldave | the process launcher changed from essex to folsom and i never updated it | 20:20 |
| ekarlso | yes sygnous | 20:20 |
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| ev0ldave | and neither did the originator | 20:20 |
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| mgw | What are the pros/cons of a flat network (allowing public IPs without NAT) vs a VLAN network? Are flat netowrks an option with Quantum? | 20:24 |
| ev0ldave | mgw: since you can make networks shared between tenants yes | 20:24 |
| ev0ldave | when doing quantum net-create use the —shared flag and it will share with all tenants | 20:25 |
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| mgw | ev0ldave: ok, so I'd do a net-create for our public IP space | 20:25 |
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| mgw | How would I then control which instance gets which public IP? | 20:25 |
| ev0ldave | i believe you can specify an ip when creating an instance | 20:26 |
| mgw | Is it "normal" to use directly assigned public IPs in this way? | 20:26 |
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| sygnous | yeah, I really have no need for a private address space either, as we already have one.. I just wanna bring up a cluster, and use a subnet assigned to me for direct connection to instances | 20:27 |
| ev0ldave | what you are talking about is routing your fixed network, you can't assign publics directly to instance | 20:27 |
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| souvik | russellb: can u please approve blueprint for disable terminate as the approach is finalized now | 20:27 |
| sygnous | but you can automatically assign a public at creation | 20:27 |
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| souvik | i have updated the blueprint with details | 20:28 |
| russellb | souvik: link? | 20:28 |
| souvik | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/ability-to-set-disable-terminate | 20:28 |
| ev0ldave | you can automatically assign a "public" address that is NATd | 20:28 |
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| ev0ldave | not living on the instance, if you just have your fixed space routed then you dont need to create a public network | 20:29 |
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| mgw | ev0ldave: NAT may be an issue on our network, so I'm looking at options for avoiding it | 20:29 |
| devicenull | ev0ldave: yes you can assign public IPs directly to instances... | 20:29 |
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| devicenull | it's one of the demo use cases even http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-network/admin/content/use_cases_single_flat.html | 20:29 |
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| ev0ldave | devicenull, we are talking floating, you dont assign floating, you just route the fixed space | 20:30 |
| russellb | souvik: sorry, but i still just don't really like the feature ... i don't want a new extension and feature for disable_thing, where thing is every possible action | 20:30 |
| devicenull | ah | 20:30 |
| ev0ldave | that is what that link shows | 20:30 |
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| sygnous | yeah, I don't wanna nat... I'm already on 10's | 20:31 |
| sygnous | NAT'ing 192's -> 10's just seems.... well | 20:31 |
| sygnous | lol | 20:31 |
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| ev0ldave | if you still want metadata with quantum in that case you still need a router created and l3 agent… or you add a static DNAT on your gateway to nova-api | 20:32 |
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| sygnous | does it still make sense to have two nics on a nova node if you are gonna go flat? | 20:32 |
| sygnous | trying to wrap my brain around this.. networking is the most complex for me | 20:33 |
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| ev0ldave | yes | 20:33 |
| souvik | russellb: how do u suggest we should do it? | 20:33 |
| ev0ldave | management/amqp: one nic, instance traffic on another | 20:33 |
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| sygnous | even at 10Gbit? ;) | 20:34 |
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| zynzel | sygnous: you can use 1nic | 20:35 |
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| zynzel | 1 physical nic* | 20:35 |
| zynzel | with vlans for example. | 20:35 |
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| sygnous | I don't mind setting up two nics... I'm just sick of subnets and VLANs, lol | 20:36 |
| sygnous | if it needs 50 thats fine, they are all virtual | 20:36 |
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| zynzel | but i recomend setup with 2 nics, 1 nic with vlans/fixed,mgmt,float traffic | 20:36 |
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| ev0ldave | i keep them on separate nics because i run 100+ instances per compute node | 20:36 |
| zynzel | and 1 nic with iscsi traffic. | 20:36 |
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| sygnous | yeah... that's industry best practice to isolate / segment the storage network | 20:37 |
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| sygnous | just trying to simplify things... it's hard to sell this shit to hard core stubburn 50 year old IT guys :P | 20:37 |
| zynzel | well, 50 year old it guys, should know what is vlan ;) | 20:38 |
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| zynzel | and server in 3 vlan is nothing strange in any other virtualization technology ;) | 20:38 |
| sygnous | from my experience... they're more comfortable keeping it old skool | 20:38 |
| sygnous | the whole SDN thing | 20:38 |
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| sygnous | for instance... I have like 15 VLAN's... for no reason... but it's "just the way it is" | 20:39 |
| zynzel | sdn could be very funny, especially for network guys | 20:39 |
| zynzel | with open minds ;) | 20:39 |
| sygnous | essentiall isolating each protocol, lol | 20:40 |
| sygnous | doesn't make sense | 20:40 |
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| ev0ldave | i believe 802.1q was brought about in the 80's.. doesn't get much more oldschool than that | 20:40 |
| zynzel | ev0ldave: ethernet ;) | 20:41 |
| zynzel | and now we have vxlan, gre, sst! | 20:41 |
| ev0ldave | oh, i see, vlans are old school. VLANs are necessary when using broadcast domains and multicast, you can't really get away from them | 20:41 |
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| sygnous | I agree | 20:41 |
| sygnous | I think subnetting is pretty much meh though... give me a 22 and let me do what I gotta do with it | 20:42 |
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| ev0ldave | vxlan.. sounds like a rip off of qinq tunnels | 20:42 |
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| sygnous | one subnet with 16 IP's, one with 32, 2 with /24, etc, etc.... very archaic | 20:46 |
| sygnous | tired of vmware-tools, lol... | 20:46 |
| * sygnous is grumpy today apparently ;) | 20:46 | |
| romel | hi guys. is the volumes redundancy provided with openstack when building multi-node architecture ? | 20:46 |
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| romel | so if one compute node dies, all the volumes stored there are lost ? | 20:46 |
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| zynzel | romel: volumes from cinder? | 20:48 |
| romel | yes | 20:48 |
| zynzel | romel: this depends on backend. | 20:48 |
| zynzel | for example rbd (ceph) has replicas. | 20:48 |
| sygnous | if you are using the loopback VG, yeah | 20:48 |
| sygnous | yer hosed | 20:48 |
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| zynzel | but lvm no. | 20:48 |
| romel | i see. thanks | 20:48 |
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| zynzel | fast question, fast response, i like it :) | 20:49 |
| sygnous | it's really designed to be offloaded to a storage solution | 20:49 |
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| * sygnous has yet to try ceph | 20:49 | |
| sygnous | I hear it's awesome though | 20:49 |
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| zynzel | yeah, ceph is awesome. | 20:49 |
| zynzel | i can crush ceph cluster in 20 minutes ;) | 20:49 |
| zynzel | at least in old version, i must build lab with trunk. | 20:49 |
| sygnous | netapp filers here, so :P | 20:49 |
| zynzel | s/crush/crash/ | 20:50 |
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| ev0ldave | netapp driver makes it so nice, no more fricking open-iscsi, and the compute nodes attach directly to the netapp | 20:54 |
| ev0ldave | thank you openstack devs | 20:54 |
| sygnous | do they? I haven't messed with it yet | 20:54 |
| ev0ldave | yeah, use the netapp nfs driver | 20:55 |
| ev0ldave | cinder will create the nfs share on the netapp then just tells the compute host the filer ip and nfs share to mount | 20:55 |
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| sygnous | host virtual disks on an NFS share | 20:55 |
| sygnous | or it actually does an NFS mount from inside the instance? | 20:55 |
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| ev0ldave | nfs mount from the compute host then attaches as block device through virsh | 20:56 |
| ev0ldave | so still shows as /dev/vd* | 20:56 |
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| sygnous | wow... interesting | 20:56 |
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| scuttlemonkey | zynzel: what version of ceph did you crash? | 20:57 |
| zynzel | scuttlemonkey: last time i test argonaut. | 20:58 |
| scuttlemonkey | ahhh, yeah that was quite a while ago | 20:58 |
| scuttlemonkey | would love to hear how you do w/ cuttlefish | 20:58 |
| ev0ldave | 20 min, man, took me a day to crash gluster | 20:58 |
| zynzel | scuttlemonkey: yes, i will probably build new lab and check if i can destroy cluster :) | 20:59 |
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| scuttlemonkey | hehe | 20:59 |
| zynzel | scuttlemonkey: if you have lab, there is easy way to test it :) | 20:59 |
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| scuttlemonkey | sure, argonaut was before we had "Inktank" and a real QA team | 21:00 |
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| scuttlemonkey | but if you have a good test, we could add it to our teuthology tests | 21:00 |
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| zynzel | scuttlemonkey: fill cluster in > than one node (for example 90%) | 21:01 |
| zynzel | shutdown one node. :) | 21:01 |
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| zynzel | in argonaut, ceph move replicas 'from' dead node, to others, and fill clususter in 100% :) | 21:01 |
| zynzel | after that, each ceph ods crash. | 21:02 |
| scuttlemonkey | yeah, they did a bunch of work with respect to full and/or near-full cluster behavior | 21:02 |
| scuttlemonkey | you can get close to full now and there are warnings and ways to hot-plug more OSDs to expand and keep going | 21:02 |
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| zynzel | must check that, as ceph is really cool software. | 21:03 |
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| scuttlemonkey | and (I believe) your case will show as an unclean state until you add more storage to recover...but the existing nodes/data will continue to serve | 21:03 |
| zynzel | comparing to for example sheepdog | 21:03 |
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| scuttlemonkey | cool | 21:03 |
| scuttlemonkey | glad you like it :) | 21:03 |
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| zynzel | in other hand, as far as i remember inktank exists durring argonaut release :) | 21:05 |
| zynzel | but maybe gives less support to community :) | 21:05 |
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| scuttlemonkey | it was a very small window of overlap | 21:09 |
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| scuttlemonkey | zynzel: it was mostly the QA rigor I was referring to though, rather than company "launch" | 21:10 |
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| scuttlemonkey | zynzel: sounds like there was work recently to further address the issue that you are referring to...so yeah, definitely worth another look with w/e the latest cuttlefish point release is when you find the time to tinker with it :) | 21:11 |
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| zynzel | no problem, if i will have free weekend i will try cuttlefish ;) | 21:12 |
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| zynzel | i send info about that bug on irc, but dont remember to whom :) | 21:12 |
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| scuttlemonkey | zynzel: cool, thanks...always like to get bug reports and the like | 21:14 |
| BLZbubba | ok i am having a new problem the past couple of weeks - the token system stops letting new people authenticate | 21:16 |
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| BLZbubba | but if i restart memcached then it works for another day or two | 21:16 |
| BLZbubba | any idea how to get started with diagnosing that? | 21:17 |
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| jakewarner | BLZbubba: How much RAM did you allocate to memcached | 21:17 |
| zynzel | BLZbubba: check where you store tokens. | 21:17 |
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| zynzel | you probably use long living tokens, and memcache dont have free memory. | 21:18 |
| zynzel | maybe try to change size of ram available to memcache. | 21:18 |
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| souvik | russellb: how do u thing we should implement disable terminate story? | 21:26 |
| russellb | i'm not convinced it makes sense | 21:26 |
| russellb | i don't see why lock isn't enough | 21:26 |
| BLZbubba | jakewarner: ah it is at the 64 meg default | 21:26 |
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| souvik | lock will restrict all actions on the server | 21:27 |
| russellb | yes | 21:27 |
| jakewarner | BLZbubba: I raised mine to 2048mb | 21:27 |
| souvik | but we want to only stop deletion | 21:27 |
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| souvik | use case being that many vm have compute running on them. so only restrict deletion of such vm | 21:27 |
| russellb | souvik: feel free to try to build some consensus on the mailing list about it | 21:28 |
| russellb | see if you can get others to say "yes, i think this is a good idea" | 21:28 |
| BLZbubba | jakewarner: ok thanks, hopefully that does it | 21:28 |
| BLZbubba | what happens when memcache hits the limit, does it stop taking new data or does it expire the old data sooner | 21:28 |
| jakewarner | Well, there are options to control that | 21:29 |
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| jakewarner | you can force it to never take new data | 21:29 |
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| jakewarner | but by default, it'll try to expire the older data | 21:29 |
| souvik | ok. since i am new to this irc channel, can you please point me to whom all i can ask for their opinion? | 21:29 |
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| jakewarner | but I believe there's a limit on that too where you're trying to pack so much new data into it, that it just exits | 21:30 |
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| jakewarner | souvik: Just ask in this channel | 21:31 |
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| jakewarner | souvik: nvm, just realized your last msg wasn't directed at the channel as a whole but to russellb | 21:32 |
| souvik | hi everybody, need opinion on disable terminate blueprint https://review.openstack.org/#/c/27050/ | 21:32 |
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| russellb | souvik: just post to the openstack-dev list | 21:32 |
| souvik | ok | 21:32 |
| russellb | souvik: you can try #openstack-nova, too, if you'd like | 21:32 |
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| [caveman] | is there a reason you can't start/stop instances from horizon? | 21:37 |
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| BLZbubba | ok having a fun problem with tenant usage. i can get usage for months up til last month, but the current month gives an error: Error: Unable to retrieve usage information. | 21:53 |
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| netsrob | Hi, i'm installing with the grizzly install guide and have problems with keystone: "Invalid user / password" at the point of "keystone user-list" is this normal behavior? | 21:59 |
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| netsrob | and i don't get where the data like OS_PASSWORD comes from, since i didn't find it in the scripts | 22:01 |
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| sygnous | yeah, that new install guide is confusing :( | 22:01 |
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| netsrob | i get a user list when i explicitly use token and endpoint, but as far as i understand the guide should not be needed if keystone is configured correctly? | 22:05 |
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| netsrob | so how works authentitfication with keystone wihtout credentials or tokens? | 22:06 |
| sygnous | you need to source the file so it sets the variables | 22:07 |
| netsrob | ok, done that. and how kows keystone the variables since it has been setup before i sourced them? | 22:07 |
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| sygnous | I haven't had a successful install yet, lol | 22:08 |
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| sygnous | well, devstack, but that doesn't count ;) | 22:08 |
| netsrob | ok ^^ so i'm not the only one lost in this guide? ;) | 22:08 |
| sygnous | nope | 22:09 |
| sygnous | building and RDO install now so I can at least get used to using it | 22:09 |
| sygnous | s/and/an/ | 22:09 |
| ev0ldave | netsrob: "ok, done that. and how kows keystone the variables since it has been setup before i sourced them?" can you rephrase that? | 22:09 |
| sygnous | I think it worked before without sourcing the file... | 22:10 |
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| ev0ldave | ok | 22:10 |
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| sygnous | which doesn't make sense to me | 22:10 |
| netsrob | ev0ldave: where is the connection between the soured credentials and the data in keystone? | 22:10 |
| sygnous | cause those variables aren't set anywhere else, that I've seen | 22:10 |
| ev0ldave | keystone reads in the environment variables prodcued by env | 22:11 |
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| ev0ldave | if you ran a setup script for keystone it may have been included in it | 22:11 |
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| ev0ldave | which most guides have since adding endpoints and tying to tenants takes a good chunk of time | 22:11 |
| ev0ldave | users rather | 22:12 |
| netsrob | ok, thats clear so far, but i haven't set up these credentials in keystone at any point, so how can they be used for Authentification | 22:12 |
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| netsrob | the only credentials i used where the credentials for the mysql-account | 22:12 |
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| netsrob | i looked at the code of the scripts and couldn't find any point where i should set these variables | 22:14 |
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| ev0ldave | link to the scripts? | 22:15 |
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| netsrob | https://raw.github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/master/KeystoneScripts/keystone_basic.sh | 22:15 |
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| ev0ldave | ADMIN_PASSWORD=${ADMIN_PASSWORD:-admin_pass} | 22:16 |
| ev0ldave | SERVICE_PASSWORD=${SERVICE_PASSWORD:-service_pass} | 22:16 |
| ev0ldave | export SERVICE_TOKEN="ADMIN" | 22:16 |
| ev0ldave | export SERVICE_ENDPOINT="http://${HOST_IP}:35357/v2.0" | 22:16 |
| ev0ldave | SERVICE_TENANT_NAME=${SERVICE_TENANT_NAME:-service} | 22:16 |
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| ev0ldave | user: admin pass: admin_pass | 22:16 |
| ev0ldave | and it exports them to env | 22:16 |
| netsrob | ahhh | 22:16 |
| netsrob | ok, i was blind | 22:16 |
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| netsrob | ok, then the guide is missing that one should edit these credentials too | 22:17 |
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| netsrob | anyway, thanks :) | 22:17 |
| ev0ldave | np | 22:17 |
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| ev0ldave | and you can change them later | 22:17 |
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| sygnous | the guide makes mention to go to http://IP/horizon | 22:19 |
| sygnous | shoudl be http://IP/dashboard | 22:19 |
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| ev0ldave | openstack dashboard defaults to ip/horizon | 22:20 |
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| ev0ldave | that's weird, i have never seen /dashboard | 22:20 |
| sygnous | this is rdo | 22:21 |
| ev0ldave | ah | 22:21 |
| ev0ldave | right | 22:21 |
| sygnous | maybe it's specific to that | 22:21 |
| ev0ldave | you weirdo ;) | 22:21 |
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| sygnous | this page has a bad link : http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/starting-images.html | 22:21 |
| sygnous | for the VM image guide | 22:21 |
| jakewarner | sygnous: ev0ldave: it is related to it being RHEL vs Ubuntu, etc | 22:23 |
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| ev0ldave | sygnous: open a launchpad bug | 22:25 |
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| sygnous | how do I give a range of IP's for floating IP's? | 22:58 |
| sygnous | I wanna start at .6 and give a /25 | 22:58 |
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| sygnous | hmm... fresh rdo install... go to create an instance, and blam... quantum throws an error :( | 23:56 |
| sygnous | ERROR [quantum.agent.l3_agent] Failed synchronizing routers | 23:57 |
| sygnous | fails synchronizing state as well | 23:57 |
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