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clickhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5740795/03:27
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clickIs it possible to view contents using cyberduck software and how may i use it03:29
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jamielennoxcan anyone tell me how to prevent nova from continually overwriting /etc/resolv.conf?05:54
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matrixisehi all09:53
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Senorwhat is the relation or difference between cluster and cloud ?10:21
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regulat0r_Senor, cloud is a buzzword an easier to sell?10:25
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tontsayou could think of it as multi tenant cluster10:28
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phschwartzHas anyone seen issues with attaching multiple volumes to one running vm with cinder?11:34
phschwartzI have 2 volumes that I want to use on 1 vm, I attached one to /dev/vdc and one to /dev/vdd. The one on vdc works perfect, the one on vdd appears to not be found11:35
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ChocoboDoes anyone know where OS-EXT-SRV-ATTR:instance_name  is stored in the database?13:41
Chocobonevermind.  It looks like it is created by converting the "id" in the instances table to hex.13:42
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phschwartzWhat would cause a volume to not be accessable in a node after attachment (logs show that it attached correctly)13:51
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vrturboQuestion,  2 cinder volume nodes. How can I define different storage types so I can choose which node gets the volume?13:52
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vrturbophschwartz have a look at http://drolfe.github.io/drolfe/blog/2013/05/01/troubleshoot-cinder-volumes/14:12
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KristianDKUsing the puppet-openstack from Stackforge, shouldn't it automatically create the cinder volumes?14:21
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ChocoboDoes anyone know why I might be getting these errors in cinder?  http://pastie.org/pastes/8019529/text14:44
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regulat0r_not sure, looks like the connection to rabbitMQ gets reset15:01
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sygnousany tips on why I get pop up errors for quotas with horizon?15:54
sygnousError: Unauthorized: Unable to retrieve quota information.15:54
sygnouseverything else seems to work fine15:54
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jpichsygnous: Usually it means one of the services required to calculate quotas isn't available (probably cinder or nova-network/quantum depending on what you installed). You can check the apache logs to hopefully get more information (stack trace)15:55
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sygnousfrom the command line, everything works fine with quotas... and everything else seems ok with nova via horizon15:55
sygnousahh, didn't know cinder would impact it like that15:56
sygnousyeah, cinder is busted right now :P15:56
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sygnousalso, for the cinder setup, it says I need to know the rabbitmq password.... there isn't one that you setup during the installation, at least not that I've seen in the docs15:57
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jpichsygnous: Yeah, if cinder is in the keystone catalogue, Horizon expects to be able to talk to it to get the volume quota information15:58
sygnousvery cool, thanks jpich15:58
jpichsygnous: As for debugging it, I'll let people more knowledgeable with cinder & rabbitmq answer that :-)15:58
jpichsygnous: You're welcome15:58
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s51itxsycguys, I have quantum endpoint created successfully, but seeing the port 9696 is not up yet... any hint I can find?15:59
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sygnouslooks like it might be guest / guest, lol16:07
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sygnousthe docs say to use /nova as the MQ vhost, but it looks like it should be /16:12
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sygnousat least it starts up correctly that way16:12
sygnouslol16:12
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tempguyreading up on openstack and I'm wondering about a couple of things, what type of latency should I factor in with  distributed resources across 10+ machines and would openstack be good for a high volume (lamp) stack , hardware is not the latest and greatest blade or anything but its decent on a gigabit network16:17
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sygnousthe latest docs talk about using cinder, but it doesn't create a user or service for it16:20
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sygnoussweet, got it :)16:29
sygnousgetting used to this stuff16:29
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b1tbkt_nova-manage shows happy nodes but only one of three nodes is  showing updates in compute_node_stats table. I can't deploy new instances to the non-updateing nodes.16:41
b1tbkt_logs are on debug but not helpful.16:41
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b1tbkt_what process is responsible for the updates that appear in nova's compute_node_stats table?16:41
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sygnousjust gotta get the networking figured out and I think this will work16:45
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ChocoboDoes anyone know the difference between log_dir and logdir config options?17:48
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dimsChocobo, mean the same logdir is deprecated - https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/openstack/common/log.py#L9317:51
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Chocobodims: ahh thanks.17:52
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ChocoboSo I have a decision to make... puppet, chef or salt.18:14
nliadmI vote salt18:15
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nliadmI find puppet's "best practice" very annoying18:16
Chocobothat is kind of what I was leaning toward with chef a close second.18:16
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george1234Chocobo: did you fix your issue yesterday?18:28
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Chocobogeorge1234: Yes...  by scraping everythign and relaunching the VM's from old snapshots :(18:34
george1234Chocobo:did you clean up the database?18:35
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Chocobogeorge1234: yep, I wrote a bash script to do it... works pretty well.  I just need to modify it to cleanup the floating ips18:36
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george1234Chocobo:that python utility I gave you, was it not working?18:37
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ChocoboI think I tracked down the problem to a mellanox driver that failed to load. That card has both the InfiBand (which I am using) and the 10GbE (which I am not).  The InfiniBand was up and _seemed_ to working ok but I noticed that the 10GbE was not avaialble.  After I insmod mlx4_en then the 10GbE came up and things got better.18:38
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Chocobogeorge1234: There was a constraint in the database that it did not take care of.  Thanks for the link though, I like the format that it provides information in18:39
george1234Chocobo:not my work :)18:39
Chocobogeorge1234: Still, thanks for pointing it out :)18:40
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ChocoboI having a new problem now with cinder + haproxy + rabbitmq on our grizzly test cluster :/18:42
nliadmChocobo: full disclosure, salt can be rough, but most bugs I file have patches merged into develop same-day18:44
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Chocobonliadm: well that is pretty nice.  It seems a lot more simple to setup than Chef.18:45
nliadmI also like python much more than ruby18:45
ChocoboSort of off topic:  Is there a way (using virtual machine manager/virsh) to get the fixed ip of a VM?18:45
Chocobonliadm: me too!18:45
george1234Chocobo: what version of rabbitmq are you running?18:47
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Chocobogeorge1234: 3.1.118:49
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george1234Chocobo:there is no way to get the IP using virsh as virsh manipulates the xml where the virtual hardware profile is defined, the IP could be static or dynamic and visible only in the operating system18:50
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warikanyone here as ever tried to use ActiveMQ instead of RabbitMQ?18:51
george1234Chocobo: this guide might help you with setting up haproxy+cinder+rabbitmq: http://docwiki.cisco.com/wiki/COE_Grizzly_Release:_High-Availability_Manual_Installation_Guide#RabbitMQ_Installation18:51
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Chocobogeorge1234: thanks.  I think I have it basically set up that way.  Here is what I am encountering:  https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg24287.html18:54
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gmiChocobo: Cisco runs multiple rabbitmq clustered and they are all listed in cinder.conf; you want to run them behind a load balancer, so the setup is different18:58
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Chocobogmi: I didn't realize you could list multiple rabbit_hosts in a config file!  That....  changes everything19:01
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gmiChocobo: they added that option in Folsom, I think; if you follow the Cisco HA guide you should get it working, if not than I'm sure Daneyon Hansen (one of the guide's authors) would be glad to help you19:04
ChocoboThe reason I have haproxy was because I wanted to ensure that if one node went down I wouldn't lose the cluster.   I didn't like the delay associated with corosync/pacemaker starting the service on a new node.  I may be able to remove haproxy (or at lease greatly reduce the number of services it handles.19:04
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Chocobogmi: any idea if you can list multiple database connections?19:05
gmiChocobo: you can still use haproxy for all the APIs and mysql, but not for rabbitmq19:06
Chocobogmi: Good point.  Thanks.19:06
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phschwartzanyone used the nova get-password command with the cloudbase ws2012 image?19:11
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mrmartinhi19:11
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mrmartinthis official doc is totally broken: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/basic-install/content/basic-install_controller.html#controller-os19:12
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DrBacchusBroken in what sense? Do you have a specific change that you'd like to see made?19:12
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mrmartinyep19:13
mrmartinkeystone scripts are linking to bad urls, and scripts offered in comments two months ago simply not working, throwing errors19:13
mrmartinmaybe something changed between folsom and grizzly, and some update required for those scripts19:14
mrmartinwhere can I report such doc bugs in launchpad?19:14
clarkbagainst the openstack-manuals project19:15
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mrmartinit was my fault, just a keystone.conf admin_token misconfiguration.19:23
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guimalufI've installed openstack and I'm getting this annoying error libvirtError: Unable to read from monitor: Connection reset by peer, even after removing all vnc options in nova.conf. How can I solve this?19:23
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Chocobogmi: I like listing multiple rabbit servers better... but any idea why it doesn't work through haproxy?19:27
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gmiChocobo:no, but it rabbitmq behind haproxy seems to be pretty unstable (e.g. http://rabbitmq.1065348.n5.nabble.com/Connection-error-on-RabbitMQ-consumer-behind-haproxy-td24348.html)19:32
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guimalufhow can I check if my new parameters in nova.conf  were updated?19:33
KristianDKSomehow I now have a volume type that called "" - but it only shows up in the Dashboard, not nova volume-type-list - http://c.kristian.io/image/2f2G2N3n363J - do you know how to get rid of it?19:34
ekarlsoKristianDK: cinder ?19:34
gmiguimaluf:if you restart the nova services with verbose and debug enabled, you will see all the config options being used19:34
KristianDKekarlso: Yeah, I use cinder.19:34
KristianDKbut it doesn't show up in cinder type-list either19:35
KristianDKAlso, its not in the database in volume_types19:35
ekarlso:/19:35
ekarlsoI wonder if that's a bug KristianDK19:35
ekarlsomight wanna check in #openstack-cinder19:36
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KristianDKekarlso: not sure, because when i try to use some software that interacts over the API, the volumes have this type assigned - and funnily enough, those doesn't seem to work very well19:36
guimalufgmi, my nova.conf has verbose = true, but when I change the  vnc options I see no changes happening. novncproxy keep listen to my_ip instead of 0.0.0.0. I hate this error: libvirtError: Unable to read from monitor: Connection reset by peer19:37
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gmiguimaluf: I'm leaving in 5 min, but novnc is well documented and most users have it working fine; I would put in pastebin your nova.conf from the controller and compute node and a few details about your networking setup and somebody here will take a look and help you fix it19:42
guimalufgmi, thanks man. you're always a helpful guy!19:43
gmiguimaluf: not this time :)19:44
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ChocoboUgh, glance doesn't support multiple rabbit hosts?19:46
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bkotewallgot a question:  I have some snapshot requests that are stuck in the "Queueing" state.  I think the underlying problems are fixed, but it wouldn't finish snapshotting, nor can I kill the request20:15
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bkotewallWhat's the proper way to end the snapshot request?  If I were to look in the mysql tables to change the state of the oeprations, which table should I go edit?20:15
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fleishcan someone help me figure out what service(s) control the URL returned by nova get-vnc-console <ID> novnc?21:05
fleishI'm getting a hostname in that URL that is not in any of my configuration files anymore21:05
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fleishso I figure I haven't restarted the right service yet, though I have bouned nova-novncproxy, nova-console, & nova-consoleauth21:11
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bkotewallHey, I've got a snapshot request that has been in "queued" state for a long time.  I wanna cancel it.  I can't seem to do that.  What should I do?21:49
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melwittbkotewall: in general, when things seem to get stuck your best bet is to check all the logs and see where the request got hung up. and go from there21:55
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digitalironyso, lets say I have two servers, mostly the same hardware, I want to present them as a single linux VM22:20
digitalironyI have users here, that have math applications they want to run, and these often can take up ungodly amounts of RAM and CPU22:20
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digitalironyand letting them run on just a single server, often doesn't present enough resources to do what they want22:21
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digitalironywould openstack work for that?22:21
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fleishdigitalirony: no, openstack would be to manage VM instances. you'd need something that would distribute the workload over the multiple VM instances22:44
digitalironyfleish: recommend anything?22:44
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fleishdigitalirony: sorry, haven't done anything like that before. I know hadoop is popular for that kind of thing22:45
AdmV0rl0nYou need cluster stuff - MPICH, mpi22:45
digitalironyhrmm22:45
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AdmV0rl0nbeowolf clusters22:45
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digitalironyI thought hadoop was for large data storage/processing22:45
AdmV0rl0nlook at rocks22:45
digitalironyI am looking for more like beowolf22:45
digitalironyyeah22:45
digitalironyrocks?22:45
AdmV0rl0ngoogle rocks + cluster22:46
digitalironyhrmm22:46
digitalironyk22:46
digitalironyI was when I asked lolol22:46
AdmV0rl0n:)22:46
digitalironyI wasn't sure if you were saying like22:46
digitalirony'go kick rocks'22:46
AdmV0rl0nno :)22:47
digitalironyor if that was a product lol22:47
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AdmV0rl0nI do think it makes some sense to have openstack and cloud tech have a thread sharing tech - but maybe that will come later22:47
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digitalironyAdmV0rl0n: do you know if rocks will work with just two servers22:50
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digitalironyim reading now22:51
digitalironyand it doesn't seem like it will :/22:51
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AdmV0rl0nI dunno22:53
AdmV0rl0nbeen a long time since I clustered up stuff like rocks22:53
AdmV0rl0nBiggest problem for me is that you need to write stuff yourself to use the power of a cluster - its really quite limited in focus at what it can do. I reached a conclusion that new CPU cores offered more over shorter spans than trying to cluster stuff22:54
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AdmV0rl0nin most cases... people seemed to make clusters to take pics of them, and say 'I made a cluster!'22:57
AdmV0rl0n:P22:57
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digitalironylol23:04
digitalironyim just work at a math reasearch institute23:05
digitalironyand they need some heavy shiz23:05
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iswcyeah, unfortunately the type of clustering you want to do is still pretty specialized and can be expensive. splitting a single application across multiple servers can be touchy23:10
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