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| FatDarrel | gcheng: need it such that we don't have to enter the root password | 00:01 |
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| gcheng | create and download the ssh key pairs, | 00:02 |
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| gcheng | then you can ssh -i <keypair.pem> <VMNode> | 00:02 |
| gcheng | root@<VMNode>, or ec2_user@<VMNode> for some images. | 00:03 |
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| gcheng | with openstack setup on top of KVM, can we disable virbr0 NAT, or just remove it to shorten the iptables length? nevertheless, openstack seems doesn't use that NAT. | 00:11 |
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| Chocobo | 2013-06-12 20:29:00 WARNING [keystone.contrib.stats.core] Unable to resolve API as either public or admin: 10.80.255.1:35357 | 00:31 |
| Chocobo | What does that mean? | 00:31 |
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| Apsu` | gcheng: You talking about the "default" libvirt network? 192.168.122.0/24? | 00:40 |
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| gcheng | @Apsu, yes | 00:40 |
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| Apsu` | gcheng: Yes you can disable it. virsh net-destroy default; virsh net-autostart default --disable | 00:41 |
| gcheng | Can we disable the default libvirt network, it seems never used in openstack | 00:41 |
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| gcheng | @Apsu, does it has any side effects to openstack? | 00:41 |
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| gcheng | @Apsu, a surprise, I run the commands, and find that all iptables rules immediately went away. | 00:48 |
| gcheng | and so I can not access VM nodes on it, | 00:48 |
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| devzhark | hello | 04:29 |
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| sviesusisalus | hello. i've just installed single node openstack. everything looks like working, but there is a problem with volume snapshots. i can create them, but if i try to delete, they stuck in deleting. server load rises from 0.3 to 9. anny suggestions how to fix this ? | 04:34 |
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| koolhead17 | sviesusisalus, can you check if something log has to tell you. Also do you have enough space to save your snapshot? | 04:40 |
| koolhead17 | sviesusisalus, also check for same on Ask see if someone has reported the same issue & got answered | 04:41 |
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| sviesusisalus | i have plenty free space, it looks like snapshot creation completes successfuly, but deletion impossible | 04:44 |
| sviesusisalus | nova-volume log says nothing suspicious | 04:44 |
| koolhead17 | sviesusisalus, if you are trying it from command line do a verbose option and see whats going on | 04:44 |
| sviesusisalus | im trying from dashboard | 04:45 |
| koolhead17 | sviesusisalus, ok. | 04:46 |
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| sviesusisalus | looks like snapshot zeroing blows up my computers load | 05:05 |
| sviesusisalus | but writes nothing to the hard drive | 05:05 |
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| hk_peter | is tenant == project ? | 07:40 |
| erwan_taf | somehow yes, it's a set of ressources that some will use. Ressources + setup + users makes the tenant | 07:41 |
| erwan_taf | s/makes the/are associated with a/ | 07:42 |
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| tim|mint | hi all, I'm just looking at OpenStack and I'm wondering if a shared storage solution is required or if it can work with 'normal' local storage on hosts? | 07:49 |
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| koolhead17 | both works | 07:50 |
| tim|mint | ok, cool, so we could start out with cheap off-the-shelf (as in, old hardware :)) and switch to something like ceph at a later time | 07:51 |
| erwan_taf | ceph does use local storage so no problem to use your existing setup | 07:53 |
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| koolhead17 | yes. reading openstack operators guide will be helpful | 07:55 |
| hk_peter | keystone user-role-list can list out which user is in which tenant. But which API/command i can assign a user to a tenant? | 07:56 |
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| hk_peter | i want to complete the tenant management, so i need to know how to assign a user for a tenant. I know when creating user, you can assign a tenant for him. But user:tenant should be one to many. | 07:58 |
| hk_peter | https://www.dropbox.com/s/wjw3u0l7iyf04gf/pandora%20progress%2020130613-1.png | 07:58 |
| tim|mint | erwan_taf: yes, but I can't use ceph for storage on compute nodes, right? or will it make sure it always prefers to access local storage first? I'm a bit worried about our 1GB network between nodes and how it could get saturated pretty quickly if you use network storage | 07:59 |
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| tim|mint | IO performance for VPSes is what keeps most of our customers on dedicated hardware | 08:00 |
| tim|mint | and switching to 10G network will take some time | 08:00 |
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| erwan_taf | tim|mint: that's always a tradeof between the money you spend and the global performance you have | 08:01 |
| dtx00ff | @hk_peter yes tenant is equivalent to project | 08:01 |
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| tim|mint | agreed, but that's why we're starting with local storage first, so we can upgrade to a faster network first :) | 08:01 |
| dtx00ff | one way of adding users to tenant is through Horizon as an admin | 08:01 |
| hk_peter | so i am pretty confirm that keystone missed an APU to assign user to tenant | 08:01 |
| hk_peter | an API i meant | 08:02 |
| dtx00ff | no there is an API to add a to the user but not well documented | 08:02 |
| dtx00ff | let me dig | 08:02 |
| erwan_taf | tim|mint: that would prevent live migration for example | 08:02 |
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| hk_peter | or i should directly write to mysql ? and work around? | 08:02 |
| hk_peter | thanks dtx00ff | 08:03 |
| dtx00ff | @hk_peter if Horizon has a feature then that means there is an API for it, there is no bypassing that is done by the UI | 08:03 |
| tim|mint | true, but live migration is for us a nice-to-have, currently... we don't have that in our current setup... we're just looking for tooling to move into the current decade instead of creating VMs by hand (with local scripts), first | 08:03 |
| dtx00ff | @hk_peter it is never advised to directly mess with the DB, not for any service. bad practice | 08:03 |
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| hk_peter | horizon dashboard cann't assign a user to a tenant, it can only do : when you are creating a new user, you can assign a primary tenant for him | 08:03 |
| hk_peter | If i got no way to assign user to tenant, the user-tenant design is pretty useless in openstack | 08:04 |
| dtx00ff | @hk_peter if ou log in as admin and go to projects - plus sign - choose from a list of members you have to add a member | 08:04 |
| hk_peter | really can't see the plus sign, i am using "F" version. Can you point me out? | 08:05 |
| dtx00ff | hmm, give me a few minutes. | 08:05 |
| dtx00ff | doing couple of things | 08:05 |
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| hk_peter | dtx00ff, are you in any openstack sub-project team? | 08:07 |
| dtx00ff | @tim|mint that is what openstack does, it is just a BIG script to create VMs, you can invest in a team to spawn computes off KVM, add other services on top and you have your own OpenStack | 08:07 |
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| dtx00ff | @tim|mint there is nothing 'current decade' about this, it's just a fast forward, cut the crap solution | 08:08 |
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| hk_peter | I want to invite some people to my opensource project, but seems not many people are interesting :( | 08:16 |
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| ekarlso | hk_peter: what project ? | 08:18 |
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| cocoadaemon | hi | 08:19 |
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| hk_peter | A project call "Pandora", a new admin UI for openstack. Our customers complaint that the dashboard are far from production. | 08:20 |
| hk_peter | https://code.google.com/p/c2-pandora/ | 08:20 |
| cocoadaemon | I've got that question about privatizing parts of an openstack clouds | 08:20 |
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| hk_peter | take a look the screen shots http://peter.kingofcoders.com/?cat=26 | 08:20 |
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| cocoadaemon | Sorry to interrupt | 08:21 |
| fifieldt | looks shiny hk_peter :) you should post on the mailing list (https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MailingLists#Future_Development) so people in US/EU can look when they wake up | 08:21 |
| fifieldt | what is your question cocoadaemon? | 08:21 |
| hk_peter | thanks fifields, I will release the first version to public, it is completely opensource. In the first version, all you can do in dashboard, you can do in Pandora. | 08:22 |
| cocoadaemon | well basically, we have a new client coming, requesting 15 physicals with cloud clontrol. | 08:22 |
| cocoadaemon | Question is : do we a separate openstack instance or can we isolate his servers | 08:22 |
| cocoadaemon | ^do we a^do we create | 08:23 |
| uvirtbot | cocoadaemon: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). | 08:23 |
| cocoadaemon | ^do we a^do we create | 08:23 |
| fifieldt | You have options to use the same control infrastructure, but segregate physical servers: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-ops/content/scaling.html#segregate_cloud | 08:23 |
| koolhead17 | hk_peter: waoo cool. I thought its some commercial dashboard | 08:23 |
| fifieldt | Host Aggregates is probably the easiest | 08:23 |
| cocoadaemon | ah, thanks. segragation sounds cool. Wait... | 08:23 |
| cocoadaemon | ;) | 08:23 |
| koolhead17 | fifieldt: hellos | 08:24 |
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| hk_peter | yeah, we want to make it commercial, helping company to build private cloud | 08:24 |
| fifieldt | hi koolhead17 | 08:24 |
| * fifieldt may be coming to OpenStack India day | 08:25 | |
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| cocoadaemon | fifieldt, thanks a lot. | 08:27 |
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| * koolhead17 gives hi5 fifieldt | 08:27 | |
| dtx00ff | @hk_peter | 08:27 |
| fifieldt | you're very welcome cocoadaemon | 08:27 |
| dtx00ff | try this https://github.com/openstack/python-keystoneclient/blob/master/keystoneclient/v3/users.py#L41 | 08:27 |
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| dtx00ff | and experiment with keystone user-create [...] | 08:28 |
| hk_peter | @dtx00ff, thanks so much | 08:29 |
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| dtx00ff | @hk_peter np, and again, one advice, dont bypass the API and mess with DB, can cause all kinds of nightmare | 08:29 |
| hk_peter | totally agree with that | 08:30 |
| hk_peter | appreciate | 08:30 |
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| tim|mint | dtx00ff: true, but scripts not being maintained by us is good progress :) we're sysadmins, not programmers (late reply, sorry) | 09:09 |
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| dtx00ff | then it makes sense | 09:10 |
| dtx00ff | and np | 09:10 |
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| netsrob | hi, after an upgrade of nova and keystone i get 'Network list can not be retrieved.' and 'Unable to retrieve quota information.' - how can i fix this? i've already checked most of the corresponding logs | 09:33 |
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| netsrob | cinder and glance seem to work like before | 09:36 |
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| jpich | netsrob: "Network list can not be retrieved" would indicate an issue talking to quantum | 09:40 |
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| netsrob | jpich: quantum net-list works for me, just horizon refuses to show me stuff | 09:41 |
| jpich | netsrob: Is there more info in the apache logs when that happens, like a traceback? | 09:42 |
| netsrob | jpich: couldn't find anything useful, is there the possibility to set a debug flag somewhere for this? | 09:43 |
| netsrob | [error] \x1b[31;1mRecoverable error: [Errno 111] Connection refused\x1b[0m maybe | 09:44 |
| jpich | netsrob: If this is a dev or test system (not production) you could set DEBUG to True in the local_settings.py | 09:44 |
| netsrob | jpich: it's on the way to production ^^ | 09:45 |
| netsrob | i'll have a try | 09:45 |
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| jpich | netsrob: Ok, then that "connection refused" message probably comes back from quantum. Can you double check all the URLs for networking in the keystone catalogue are correct? | 09:45 |
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| netsrob | jpich: all internal IP's are the same and external IP's too (single-node setup) so thats correct | 09:49 |
| sviesusisalus | hi. i have single node install. my eth0 is public 192.168.10.10 and flat eth0:1 is 192.168.22.1. my fixed range is 192.168.22.32/27 and floating range is starting at 192.168.10.225. i have bridged flat eth0:1 to br100. after rebooting my server eth0 gets 192.168.10.225 and default gateway is set to flat ip. where is the problem ? | 09:50 |
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| netsrob | jpich: admin-IP's schould be the internal ones? | 09:51 |
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| jpich | netsrob: They all look the same on my test system too, http://<ip>:9696/ | 09:52 |
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| jpich | netsrob: I'm kind of stuck for ideas, particularly if this is a single node setup. The "network list" error message + "connection refused" suggest to me that Horizon cannot reach the quantum server | 09:53 |
| jpich | netsrob: What OS is this? | 09:54 |
| netsrob | ok, thanks for your ideas anyway :) | 09:54 |
| netsrob | Ubuntu 12.04 LTS | 09:54 |
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| jpich | netsrob: Yeah, so I'm really out of ideas, sorry about this | 09:55 |
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| netsrob | jpich: no problem ;) are the ports at the second entry different too? internal: http://<ip>:5000/v2.0 Admin: http://<ip>:35357/v2.0 | 09:57 |
| jpich | netsrob: That's keystone / identity rather than quantum / network here, right? That looks correct to me for keystone | 09:58 |
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| netsrob | should be, i'm not that experienced with openstack ;) | 09:59 |
| netsrob | on both ports are some python-services listening, so it should be allright | 10:00 |
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| jpich | netsrob: quantum should be listening on 9696. When you run "keystone catalog" as an admin, it should show you each service name + their urls including ports | 10:02 |
| netsrob | ok, quantum is listening on 9696 | 10:04 |
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| netsrob | strange thing is: when working as admin on cli quantum works | 10:05 |
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| fri9876 | @dtx00ff can we speak here? | 10:32 |
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| ashka | hello there, I was wondering if anyone ever tried to get storage working with a synology NAS | 11:09 |
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| Tauqeer | Hi all | 11:43 |
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| fifieldt | hi Tauqeer | 12:08 |
| Tauqeer | hi fifieldt | 12:08 |
| fifieldt | how are you? | 12:08 |
| Tauqeer | good thanks, how are you? | 12:08 |
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| fifieldt | not bad :) | 12:10 |
| fifieldt | just organising a min-conference at the last minute | 12:10 |
| Tauqeer | great. I need some help about openstack specifically in keystone. Can you please help me ? | 12:10 |
| fifieldt | I'm not an expert, but I'll try my best :) | 12:11 |
| Tauqeer | OK did you try debugging openstack or keystone in eclipse? | 12:11 |
| fifieldt | unfortunately not - | 12:12 |
| Tauqeer | :( | 12:12 |
| fifieldt | though I recall a good answer on eclipse debugging here: https://ask.openstack.org/question/815/how-do-i-debug-nova-service-with-eclipse-and-pydev/ | 12:12 |
| fifieldt | There's also: http://debugopenstack.blogspot.com.au/ | 12:13 |
| Tauqeer | i tried but i guess the help was not complete so i miss some steps. | 12:13 |
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| fifieldt | what's going wrong? | 12:13 |
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| Tauqeer | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Setup_keystone_in_Eclipse | 12:15 |
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| Tauqeer | I am using this help. | 12:15 |
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| fifieldt | ok | 12:15 |
| Tauqeer | pip-python install -r tools/pip-require, this command is not working for me | 12:16 |
| fifieldt | ok, what is it saying? | 12:16 |
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| Tauqeer | pip-python command not found | 12:17 |
| fifieldt | oh | 12:17 |
| fifieldt | try replacing pip-python with pip | 12:17 |
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| Tauqeer | i did but no use | 12:18 |
| fifieldt | still 'command not found' ? | 12:18 |
| Tauqeer | what is your area of work, I mean what area you doing in OpenStack? | 12:18 |
| fifieldt | try # sudo apt-get install python-pip | 12:19 |
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| fifieldt | I'm actually the OpenStack Community Manager, working at the OpenStack foundation. Previously, I ran an OpenStack cloud for the Australian public research sector. | 12:19 |
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| Tauqeer | can you please share some knowledge how did you ran OpenStack for that sector | 12:20 |
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| fifieldt | most of my knowledge is in this book: http://docs.openstack.org/ops/ :) | 12:21 |
| fifieldt | is there something specifically you're interested in? | 12:21 |
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| fifieldt | staffing? procurement? development? design? | 12:21 |
| Tauqeer | Actually I am also working in a company and we are trying yo deploy OpenStack and my responsibility is to deal with security of our cloud | 12:21 |
| fifieldt | oh, a very important role | 12:21 |
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| fifieldt | so, are you looking at IDS like snort or broIDS? | 12:22 |
| Tauqeer | yeah but there is nothing good help available anywhere on net :( | 12:22 |
| fifieldt | it take a lot of tweaking, yes | 12:22 |
| Tauqeer | and I am quite new to openstack too so i need to read and understand everything before deploying it | 12:23 |
| fifieldt | know the feeling :) | 12:23 |
| fifieldt | I can recommend the book then :) | 12:23 |
| fifieldt | as a security professional you might also be interested in getting in touch with the OpenStack Security team | 12:23 |
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| Tauqeer | which book? the one you said above? | 12:24 |
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| fifieldt | yeah | 12:24 |
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| fifieldt | it's got information about designing clouds and operations best practices | 12:24 |
| fifieldt | it's not an install guide | 12:24 |
| fifieldt | fyr: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/SecurityTeams | 12:24 |
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| Tauqeer | I dont know why we dont have enough info about OpenStak available :( | 12:27 |
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| fifieldt | it's an issue we're trying to address (according to http://justwriteclick.com/2013/04/26/who-wrote-openstack-grizzly-docs/ only 3 main contributors for the documentation) | 12:27 |
| fifieldt | I believe the security team is even working on a book of their own | 12:28 |
| Tauqeer | but right now they have shared nothing | 12:29 |
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| fifieldt | I believe the plan is to get a few people to the same location for one week and write it in a sprint | 12:29 |
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| Tauqeer | But for right now to whom should I contact ? | 12:31 |
| fifieldt | the one labelled OSSG: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Security_Teams | 12:33 |
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| Tauqeer | I sent them mail already. Hope they will reply.. | 12:33 |
| fifieldt | good luck :) | 12:34 |
| fifieldt | the openstack-operators mailing list is another good one | 12:34 |
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| fifieldt | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MailingLists#Operators | 12:34 |
| fifieldt | but yeah, they all work better if you have specific questions | 12:34 |
| fifieldt | You can also try https://ask.openstack.org/ for specific questions | 12:34 |
| fifieldt | sometimes it gets better responses than the mailing list, sometimes not | 12:35 |
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| Tauqeer | believe me I tried posting almost everywhere but I dont know why no answer :S | 12:37 |
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| Tauqeer | fifieldt ?? | 12:50 |
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| fifieldt | sorry - was afk. can you send me links to your unanswered ask.openstack.org questions, or your mailing list posts ? | 12:51 |
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| fifieldt | eg using http://openstack.markmail.org/ | 12:52 |
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| Tauqeer | fifieldt I asked here too right now, I hope someone will answer. | 13:00 |
| Tauqeer | I posted in stackoverflow and other communities before.. | 13:00 |
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| vkmc | Tauqeer, Hey, can you share the links of your unanswered ask.openstack.org questions or your mailing lists posts? | 13:02 |
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| Tauqeer | VKMC, my questions are related to keystone as i want to work on it, | 13:05 |
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| vkmc | Tauqeer, Work on it... like, contribute? | 13:07 |
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| Tauqeer | vkmc, actually right now my focus is to undestand it, in future if my company will need to add some fucntioanlity then we will contribute too | 13:08 |
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| vkmc | Tauqeer, That's really cool :) | 13:09 |
| Tauqeer | but right now I am stuck with understanding keystone | 13:09 |
| Tauqeer | everywhere high level info is there, nobody has explained how keystone works internally :( | 13:10 |
| vkmc | Tauqeer, Well, first of all I would suggest you to read the docs... I know it's not the quicker way, but official docs are really well written and you will learn a lot from there | 13:10 |
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| Tauqeer | vkmc, which docs you mean? | 13:10 |
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| fifieldt | Tauqeer, have you read the keystone developer reference: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/keystone/ ? | 13:10 |
| vkmc | Those suggested by fifieldt, to start developing | 13:12 |
| vkmc | Tauqeer, But to start from scratch, I would also suggest reading the administration guide here http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-compute/admin/content/ch-identity-mgmt-config.html | 13:13 |
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| vkmc | Tauqeer, And... to get more details about it, the API reference http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-identity-service/2.0/content/ | 13:14 |
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| Tauqeer | vkmc, I went through API doc, but I guess other two will be really helpful , thanks :) | 13:16 |
| fifieldt | Tauqeer, I have to go to sleep, but before I do - one technique that has helped me in the past getting assistance in learning about new and complex systems. I like to write down my understanding of the system and send that out as a question - this way people can invalidate the assumptions and it leads to more specific questions | 13:17 |
| fifieldt | good luck :) | 13:17 |
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| vkmc | Tauqeer, I strongly suggest you reading the first one :) The other two... you will get to them later | 13:20 |
| vkmc | Tauqeer, But understanding how it works is the most important right now | 13:20 |
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| vkmc | Tauqeer, Also, play with Keystone... try creating tenants, users, adding user to tenants and those kind of stuff :) That will you experience and you will help you to enjoy the learning step | 13:21 |
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| vkmc | Tauqeer, Also, feel free to join #openstack-101 to know other newcomers and #openstack-keystone to chat with the current Keystone's developing community | 13:22 |
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| vkmc | s/know/meet | 13:22 |
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| Tauqeer | yeah I will do that, how to join openstack-keystone | 13:23 |
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| ashka | click or doubleclick it, or type /join #openstack-keystone | 13:26 |
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| vkmc | As ashka says :) Although... I'm checking that there is not much people there :/ | 13:27 |
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| Chocobo | What exactly do that stats_monitoring and stats_reporting do in keystone? | 13:34 |
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| Tauqeer | #openstack-keystone | 13:38 |
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| Chocobo | Hmm, I didn't realize there was a channel for each service. cool. | 13:40 |
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| chrissco | hi, can i allocate a instance more ram without creating a new instance? | 14:24 |
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| jpich | chrissco: Hi. There's a resize option that lets you choose a new flavour, so you could select a flavour that has more RAM to achieve this | 14:36 |
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| Chocobo | Has anyone seen an error like this before? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5761706/ | 15:02 |
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| Chocobo | This was after trying to do a "cinder list" | 15:02 |
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| Chocobo | Ok, can someone help me with an authentication issue? http://pastie.org/pastes/8039490/text It gets the token fine from keystone, but then when it passes it back to cinder it gets an "Authentication Required" error. | 15:39 |
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| gmi | Chocobo: anything in the cinder-api logs? | 15:46 |
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| Chocobo | gmi: http://pastie.org/private/pgdq0zchka9t97vi6frig | 15:48 |
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| Chocobo | things like "2013-06-13 11:21:32 ERROR [keystoneclient.common.cms] Verify error: Verification failure | 15:48 |
| Chocobo | 139680882570912:error:0407006A:rsa routines:RSA_padding_check_PKCS1_type_1:block type is not 01:rsa_pk1.c:100:" look "off" | 15:48 |
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| gmi | Chocobo: is the token exactly the same? | 15:49 |
| Chocobo | gmi: I can turn debug on if that is helpful for logging but I find it fills up with a lot of useless stuff. | 15:50 |
| Chocobo | gmi: let me rerun it | 15:50 |
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| Chocobo | gmi: yes, they are identical | 15:52 |
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| Chocobo | I should also note that all the glance, and keystone functions seem to work fine :/ | 15:53 |
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| gmi | Chocobo:do you run multiple keystone servers? maybe the token is cached on a different keystone server than the one who created it | 15:54 |
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| Chocobo | gmi: I do have multiple keystone servers, but they are current off. | 15:55 |
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| Chocobo | gmi: I thought to test that. Plus with haproxy I have non-local services set as "backup" so they don't get used unless they are down locally | 15:56 |
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| Chocobo | I am even watching the traffic with tcpdump on the other nodes. Nothing. everything is going to the same node. Perhaps I should change the endpoint, and point cinder to the keystone on the localip and see if that works? | 16:00 |
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| gmi | Chocobo: you could disable the PKI token format in keystone, restart it and try again | 16:05 |
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| Chocobo | gmi: what should I set token_format to? | 16:06 |
| Chocobo | I haven't really modified much of the low level stuff. | 16:06 |
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| gmi | Chocobo: if you comment out "token_format = PKI" in keystone.conf and restart keystone, it should use UUID type tokens | 16:10 |
| Chocobo | gmi: that line is already commented out. | 16:11 |
| Chocobo | gmi: I should probably mention I am using Grizzly. Not sure if that matters | 16:12 |
| gmi | Chocobo: can you put in pastebin the output of: egrep -v "^$|^#" /etc/keystone/keystone.conf | 16:13 |
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| Chocobo | gmi: http://pastie.org/private/ytmfwht98b4hb2xuckpdpw | 16:14 |
| Chocobo | hmmm, I see something | 16:15 |
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| Chocobo | Hmm, I remove the "token" from [auth] methods. Didn't seem to do anything | 16:17 |
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| bknudson | chocobo: the default for token format changed in G. token_format = UUID to switch to UUID tokens. | 16:19 |
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| Chocobo | Huh! | 16:22 |
| Chocobo | bknudson: thanks | 16:22 |
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| Chocobo | It worked without token authentication! What the heck!? | 16:22 |
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| wahly | i'm having a heck of a time getting images added via glance on a new control node install (following http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/basic-install/yum/content/basic-install_controller.html). can anyone point me in the right direction? http://pastebin.com/CkrSyxv8 | 16:23 |
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| Chocobo | Is there something else I have to do to setup PKI? I didn't see anything about it in the guides. | 16:24 |
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| Chocobo | gmi: thanks! I will have to look into this more. Maybe I will make a post to the mailing list. | 16:24 |
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| gmi | Chocobo:there is something about that in the guide, but I didn't do that step and PKI tokens work fine for me, so ...http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-compute/install/apt/content/install-keystone.html | 16:26 |
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| gmi | Chocobo: more keystone stuff here: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/keystone/configuration.html | 16:30 |
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| gmi | Chocobo: I think you hit this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1075838 | 16:35 |
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| yo61 | I'm doing some testing with Grizzly on CentOS 6.4 | 16:50 |
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| yo61 | I see a custom kernel build is required to support Quantum | 16:50 |
| yo61 | kernel-2.6.32-358.6.2.openstack.el6 | 16:50 |
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| yo61 | However, the latest 6.4 kernel supercedes this | 16:51 |
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| yo61 | Have the required changes been merged to the later release? (kernel-2.6.32-358.11.1.el6.x86_64) | 16:52 |
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| goozbach | having an issue with glance-manage db_sync | 17:36 |
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| goozbach | following http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-compute/install/yum/content/configure-glance-files.html | 17:36 |
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| goozbach | double checked all the passwords/configs in all the config files, the services are restarting... but glance-manage db_sync has the following error | 17:38 |
| goozbach | 2013-06-13 13:34:07.407 11867 CRITICAL glance [-] (OperationalError) (1045, "Access denied for user 'glance'@'localhost' (using password: YES)") None None | 17:39 |
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| goozbach | I've double-checked the users in mysql, where else should I look? | 17:39 |
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| Chocobo | thanks gmi | 17:41 |
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| goozbach | there doesn't seem to be anything other than that error in the log files... | 17:45 |
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| monst | I am failing to spawn instances on one of my compute nodes. Error "HTTPInternalServerError: HTTPInternalServerError (HTTP 500) | 17:50 |
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| monst | running glance image-list seems to work fine from commandline | 17:50 |
| monst | not sure what the deal is | 17:50 |
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| Chocobo | Kind of a strange question. When sending email to the openstack mailing list, should I put [Openstack] in the subject? I notice all the posts I receive have it. | 18:01 |
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| monst | glance image-download is giving me HTTPInternalServerError: HTTPInternalServerError (HTTP 500) | 18:02 |
| monst | =\ | 18:02 |
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| monst | http://paste.openstack.org/raw/38530/ | 18:05 |
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| smerdis | Hi all, I've managed to install Openstack following this guide: https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_SingleNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst | 18:11 |
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| smerdis | What I don't know is how to connect my computer to the servers I run. | 18:12 |
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| smerdis | Do you people know of some wiki that talks about it? | 18:12 |
| douglas | Hello, I am running grizzly and would like to turn a VM into a router. Does anyone know if any libvirt rules need to be changed in order for the VM to forward traffic on behalf of another VM? | 18:13 |
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| smerdis | The servers and my pc are in different networks. | 18:14 |
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| ctooley | My location: Berkeley, United States | 18:18 |
| ctooley | Doh that wasn't intentional. Not that it's private. | 18:19 |
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| douglas | Tim is that you at Berkley? | 18:20 |
| douglas | berkeley | 18:20 |
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| ctooley | Nope, Chris Tooley | 18:20 |
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| e_steve | Does anyone here have a good amount of experience working with glance and imaging? I have a few questions but the answers can't be found on openstack's documentaiton | 18:26 |
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| rohit404 | douglas: are you planning on a running quagga in a vm or what sort of VM router do you wanna run ? | 18:28 |
| douglas | I just have ip forwarding enabled | 18:29 |
| douglas | net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1 | 18:29 |
| rohit404 | on a vm ? | 18:29 |
| douglas | that's correct | 18:29 |
| douglas | So what I have is OpenVPN setup between two tenants | 18:30 |
| douglas | one tenant is in one cloud | 18:30 |
| douglas | one tenant is another | 18:30 |
| douglas | I setup the OpenVPN server on one cloud an and OpenVPN client on another | 18:30 |
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| douglas | I want to use the openvpn server in the one tenant as a gateway for the rest of the vms in the tenant, so they can get across the tunnel to the other clouds private subnet | 18:31 |
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| rohit404 | setting the tenant subnets default gateway on the openvpn server should do it no ? | 18:31 |
| douglas | when I run a ping from the private ip addresses in one cloud to a private ip address in another cloud I am seeing icmp echo requests leaving the openvpn server that is doing the routing but I am NOT seeing them hit the qvo interface on the OVS on the compute node | 18:32 |
| douglas | well I actually didnt set the default gateway | 18:32 |
| douglas | I just added a static route for that particular subnet | 18:32 |
| douglas | I just posted the question here https://answers.launchpad.net/quantum/+question/230714 | 18:33 |
| douglas | I think its a libvirt rule of some kind | 18:33 |
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| rohit404 | on the compute node | 18:35 |
| rohit404 | yes | 18:35 |
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| rohit404 | if this a test setup, you could could flush iptables and confirm the behavior | 18:35 |
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| douglas | I havent touched the compute nodes at all | 18:36 |
| douglas | I am using the OVS plugin with GRE tunnels | 18:36 |
| douglas | I turned off ip tables completely on the vm that is doing the forwarding | 18:36 |
| douglas | Im sorry, on BOTH vms that are doing the routing | 18:36 |
| douglas | the icmp request only gets so far | 18:37 |
| douglas | it never gets OUT of the VM towards OVS | 18:37 |
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| douglas | the source address when it leaves the VM will be different then what it usually is | 18:38 |
| douglas | I am wondering if libvirt blocks that somehow | 18:38 |
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| douglas | So the traffic leaving the VM has a different source address then what it normally has | 18:39 |
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| douglas | its pointing towards some kind of libvirt rule but I dont know what one to change | 18:39 |
| douglas | maybe the IP spoofing stuff? | 18:39 |
| douglas | any ideas? | 18:40 |
| rohit404 | looking | 18:40 |
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| douglas | I think its a libvirt rule but I could be wrong | 18:41 |
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| douglas | If run a packet capture from the VM that is doing the routing I see the ICMP request LEAVING | 18:42 |
| douglas | when I run a capture on the tap interface for that vm on the compute node | 18:42 |
| douglas | I also see the ICMP request leaving | 18:43 |
| douglas | BUT, if run the capture on the qv port associated with the tap interface, I don't see the request anymore | 18:43 |
| kbringard | douglas: check to make sure you have the noop driver set as the firewall driver in nova.conf | 18:43 |
| kbringard | I had a problem where quantum and compute were both making rules, but only one was making the correct rules | 18:43 |
| kbringard | so the other was hitting the deny * | 18:44 |
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| rohit404 | and there is a flag that disables Q_SECURITY_GROUPS | 18:44 |
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| douglas | ok, I like both of those suggestions, it looks like my firewall driver in nova.conf is set to firewall_driver=nova.virt.libvirt.firewall.IptablesFirewallDriver | 18:45 |
| rohit404 | Q_USE_SECGROUP=False | 18:45 |
| douglas | I can just put that in nova.conf? | 18:47 |
| douglas | really | 18:47 |
| douglas | ok | 18:47 |
| douglas | I like that alot too | 18:47 |
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| douglas | let me try that right now | 18:48 |
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| douglas | I just enabled the firewall driver in nova.conf | 18:55 |
| douglas | still seeing the same bahvior | 18:55 |
| douglas | behavior | 18:55 |
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| douglas | this might be something | 19:04 |
| douglas | since there is only one interface on the vm | 19:04 |
| douglas | http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/lartc.kernel.rpf.html | 19:04 |
| douglas | but I am seeing it in the tcpdump on eth0 | 19:04 |
| douglas | I am seeing requests comming from the other side | 19:05 |
| douglas | but sent out over that interface | 19:05 |
| Apsu` | douglas: I can probably help with your issue. Can you summarize it for me? Just walking in and there's lots of scrollback from various testing. | 19:05 |
| Apsu` | Would help a lot to see some pastes of your network setup as well. ovs-vsctl show, ip a, ip r, etc | 19:05 |
| ekarlso | lifeless: yo | 19:05 |
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| lifeless | ekarlso: yoyo | 19:06 |
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| douglas | no problem Apsu | 19:07 |
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| douglas | I posted my question on launchpad here https://answers.launchpad.net/quantum/+question/230714 | 19:07 |
| douglas | I an instance acting as an OpenVPN server in one tenant on one cloud | 19:07 |
| douglas | I have an instance acting as a vpn client on another cloud | 19:08 |
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| Apsu` | Ah. So you're trying to run a network quantum doesn't know about inside of a VM, inside of a quantum-networked cluster? | 19:08 |
| Apsu` | Though you're tunneling it over OpenVPN, which is SSL/TLS | 19:08 |
| douglas | I have turned both those intances into routers by doing echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward | 19:08 |
| douglas | I am using the server instance as a gateway for the other vms in that tenant to get to the private subnet in the other cloud that the vpn client is sitting in | 19:09 |
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| douglas | the vms have routes to the far end private networks | 19:10 |
| douglas | I set the gateway for the far end subnets to be the vm instance running either the vpn server or the vpn client | 19:11 |
| Apsu` | So in this cloud, you have VMs on multiple compute hosts with routes to a particular VM, that has the VPN tunnel | 19:11 |
| douglas | and because those are doing routing they also have routes pointing to the far end subnets, directing any traffic destined for those subnets over the tunnel | 19:11 |
| Apsu` | Right. I follow you. | 19:12 |
| douglas | thats correct | 19:12 |
| douglas | I think its a libvirt rule | 19:12 |
| douglas | but Im not sure | 19:12 |
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| Apsu` | Well, there's several things going on here. | 19:13 |
| Apsu` | First of all, with Quantum networking, libvirt (through nwfilter) doesn't insert any ebtables rules on hosts, unlike Nova network. | 19:14 |
| douglas | o ok, darn | 19:14 |
| douglas | there goes that idea | 19:14 |
| Apsu` | In fact, the only place iptables/ebtables could apply is on the native Linux bridges named qbr*, where the VM tap* plugs into, that patches to the integration bridge over a qvo* and qvb* "veth pair" | 19:14 |
| Apsu` | However, there are iptables rules for security groups, and Quantum does some anti-spoofing (MAC/IP) rule insertions as well | 19:15 |
| Apsu` | But! | 19:15 |
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| douglas | when I ran the capture at the tap I am seeing the traffic | 19:15 |
| Apsu` | You're supposedly tunneling all your traffic in this OpenVPN tunnel, which will appear to Quantum as an SSL connection. | 19:15 |
| Apsu` | Which tap? Gateway VM? Client VM? | 19:15 |
| douglas | when I ran it at the qvo interface im not seeing it | 19:15 |
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| Apsu` | And what traffic? VPN tunneled traffic? | 19:16 |
| douglas | ok so | 19:16 |
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| douglas | the tap that I was looking at, was off of the VPN server, I see the echo requests from the far end on that tap | 19:16 |
| douglas | HOWEVER | 19:16 |
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| douglas | when I run a tcpdump on the qvo interface associated with that tap I dont see the echo requests anymore | 19:17 |
| douglas | its like somwhere between the tap and the qvo the reqests from the other side of the tunnel are dropped | 19:17 |
| Apsu` | Which would mean it's dying on the qbr | 19:17 |
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| douglas | ahhh ok | 19:17 |
| douglas | I see I see | 19:17 |
| Apsu` | So that'd be due to iptable | 19:17 |
| Apsu` | s | 19:17 |
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| Apsu` | Now, before we dig into that | 19:18 |
| Apsu` | Tell me what traffic it is you're seeing. | 19:18 |
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| Apsu` | Because if it were the tunneled traffic, it should pass just fine. | 19:18 |
| Apsu` | If it's purely getting routed, that'd be why you're having the issue. | 19:18 |
| Apsu` | My guess is it's not exiting through the tunnel. | 19:18 |
| douglas | normally Id agree with you but why would I see icmp requests from the far end private subnet on eth0 | 19:19 |
| douglas | Im seeing it move through tun0 when I run tcpdump on the interface | 19:19 |
| douglas | so from the far end | 19:20 |
| Apsu` | Well, wait. We need to get really clear on one point here | 19:20 |
| Apsu` | When you tcpdump on the tap | 19:20 |
| Apsu` | *what* are you seeing in the dump? | 19:20 |
| Apsu` | Because if it's going through an OpenVPN tunnel, it will be encrypted. | 19:21 |
| Apsu` | You will not see the remote network IPs, or the client VM's IP, or anything inside the VPN payload at all | 19:21 |
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| douglas | thats uh interesting | 19:21 |
| Apsu` | If you're seeing anything but the gateway VM's IP and the remote VPN endpoint IP, you're not tunneling | 19:21 |
| douglas | because I am... | 19:21 |
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| monst | hmm | 19:22 |
| Apsu` | Unless you forced OpenVPN into not encrypting, just encapsulating | 19:22 |
| monst | I am getting unauthorized doing "curl http://172.16.120.6:9292/v1/images" | 19:22 |
| Apsu` | But out of the box, so to speak, it encrypts :P | 19:22 |
| monst | from one of my compute nodes | 19:22 |
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| monst | nm its happening on all my compute nodes | 19:23 |
| Apsu` | douglas: How about this. Save some of the tcpdump capture to a file, upload it to cloudshark.org, link me to it | 19:23 |
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| Apsu` | douglas: We can look at it together :) | 19:23 |
| monst | Apsu`: if you have a second could you take a peek at http://paste.openstack.org/raw/38530/ | 19:23 |
| Apsu` | Particularly when pinging | 19:23 |
| douglas | 15:22:54.242888 IP VPN_END_POINT.openvpn > PRIVATE IP.openvpn: UDP, length 125 | 19:23 |
| douglas | 15:22:54.245506 IP PRIVATE IP > ANOTHER PRIVATE IP: ICMP echo request, id 13638, seq 1689, length 64 | 19:24 |
| douglas | thats excatly what im saying | 19:24 |
| douglas | since that vm is routing traffic | 19:24 |
| douglas | why wouldnt I see those echo requests? | 19:24 |
| douglas | because its out of the tunnel at that point | 19:24 |
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| Apsu` | douglas: Ok, we need to look at the interfaces/bridges (if any) and routing table on the gateway VM. | 19:24 |
| douglas | thats no problem | 19:25 |
| Apsu` | douglas: Also, did you make any iptables rules for the OpenVPN traffic? If so, or maybe just because, need to see "iptables-save -c" | 19:25 |
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| douglas | there is no bridges on the routing vm | 19:25 |
| Apsu` | kk, makes this easier | 19:25 |
| Apsu` | So | 19:25 |
| douglas | iptables is off | 19:26 |
| Apsu` | ip a, ip r | 19:26 |
| douglas | on both vms doing routing | 19:26 |
| Apsu` | The output of those is what I need to see. | 19:26 |
| Apsu` | Use a paste site and link :) | 19:26 |
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| Apsu` | monst: IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: u'/var/lib/glance/images/02be9f41-a08e-4d34-9e33-494b0ed3d0e8' | 19:27 |
| monst | Yeah, not sure if my token is wrong or something | 19:27 |
| douglas | alright let me ask you this | 19:27 |
| Apsu` | monst: Check your permissions on that directory tree. Or, make sure you're rootwrapping in glance. | 19:27 |
| douglas | if a virtual machine forwards traffic out its interface and the source address is different the ip address assigned to that eth interface on the vm | 19:28 |
| douglas | is there rules in place that will drop it at the compute node | 19:28 |
| douglas | different then the ip address assigned* | 19:28 |
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| Apsu` | douglas: Yes. Quantum's anti-spoofing iptables rules will drop traffic that's A) not from the VM's assigned MAC and/or B) not from the VM's assigned IP. | 19:28 |
| Apsu` | douglas: But if your routing is correct, this traffic should go through the VPN tunnel, which *is* from the VM's MAC/IP. | 19:29 |
| monst | Apsu`: that was it, the other compute had the images cached so it was working | 19:29 |
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| monst | ty sir | 19:30 |
| Apsu` | monst: You bet | 19:30 |
| Apsu` | douglas: Got that "ip a; ip r" for me? | 19:30 |
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| douglas | unfortunately I can't post anything at this time | 19:31 |
| douglas | but I think thats the problem | 19:31 |
| douglas | those quantum anti-spoofing ip tables rules | 19:31 |
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| douglas | because the traffic is going over the tunnel to the vm that will do the routing | 19:31 |
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| douglas | the vm unencapsulates and notices the destination address is not its eth0 interface, so a routing descion is made to forward it out eth0 | 19:32 |
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| douglas | and Im seeing that im just not seeing it hit the qv interface on the ovs | 19:32 |
| Apsu` | douglas: No... you just need to have the right routing rules setup on the VPN VM. | 19:33 |
| douglas | I do they are there | 19:33 |
| douglas | Im already directly connected to the subnet im going to | 19:33 |
| Apsu` | I'm sure you have Some routing rules, but | 19:33 |
| Apsu` | I can almost certainly tell you what's up if I can see the routing table and interfaces :) | 19:34 |
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| douglas | Im going to see about turning off the quantum ip spoofing rules on the compute node | 19:36 |
| douglas | I think thats going to fix this | 19:36 |
| douglas | because the vm is routing the traffic correctly, because Im seeing it leaving eth0 when I run tcpdump | 19:36 |
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| Apsu` | You shouldn't be :) | 19:36 |
| Apsu` | So.. pretty sure that won't do you any favors. | 19:37 |
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| Apsu` | But if you want the anti-spoofing off, you have to do a little work | 19:37 |
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| douglas | I dont understand why if I sit on the actual vm, and I run tcpdump on the only ethernet interface on the vm, I am seeing packets with a source address different then what is actually assigned to eth0. Doesn't that mean routing is working correctly? | 19:40 |
| douglas | those packets are echo requests from the private subnet on the other side of the tunnel | 19:40 |
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| Apsu` | douglas: If you're seeing them *exit* the VM, they should be going out the tunnel interface. If you're seeing them *enter*, then yes, that's expected. But also fairly useless. That bit should work regardless, assuming you're allowing the type of traffic you're trying to tunnel in your security groups. | 19:47 |
| Apsu` | douglas: What matters is what's leaving the VPN VM, and on what interface. | 19:47 |
| Apsu` | douglas: Are you telling me that you *can* or *can't* successfully ping across the VPN tunnel from a client VM? | 19:48 |
| douglas | ok I know why there is miscommunication | 19:48 |
| douglas | you are looking in the opposite direction | 19:48 |
| douglas | the echo request goes over the tunnel to the VPN VM | 19:48 |
| douglas | its there | 19:49 |
| douglas | now it needs to get to a vm on the private subnet that, that VM is connected to | 19:49 |
| douglas | and I see it the traffic leaving the ethrnet interface going towards the vm | 19:49 |
| douglas | but it never gets there | 19:49 |
| douglas | the vpn is working | 19:49 |
| douglas | its there man | 19:49 |
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| Apsu` | Oh, so, you want [Client A, Net A] -> [VPN] -> [Client B, Net A] -> [Quantum] -> [Client C, Net B]? | 19:50 |
| Apsu` | And you're getting Client A -> B working, but not A -> C? | 19:51 |
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| douglas | So I just have one client | 19:52 |
| Apsu` | Because if so, that won't work directly with Quantum's filtering, when Quantum doesn't know about Net A | 19:52 |
| douglas | and one server | 19:52 |
| Apsu` | Replace "Client" with "Node" | 19:52 |
| douglas | ok | 19:52 |
| Apsu` | There's three participants here, and two networks, right? | 19:52 |
| douglas | I have one node in one cloud | 19:52 |
| douglas | I have one node in another cloud | 19:52 |
| douglas | there is a tunnel between these two nodes | 19:52 |
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| Apsu` | Right | 19:53 |
| douglas | these nodes do routing | 19:53 |
| Apsu` | And a third node, on another network, that you want to route to | 19:53 |
| douglas | these nodes are attached to private networks | 19:53 |
| douglas | when you say another network | 19:53 |
| Apsu` | network/subnet | 19:53 |
| douglas | its on the same network as the "node" that is doing the routing for that subnet | 19:54 |
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| Apsu` | The important question is what quantum knows, vs. what the VPN tunnel knows, vs. what the remote cloud knows. | 19:54 |
| Apsu` | It's quite difficult to successfully run a network quantum doesn't know about from within a VM, VPN tunneled or otherwise, if you need machines to source connections from IPs in that network. | 19:55 |
| douglas | so quantum one one cloud will never know about the private subnet on the other cloud | 19:55 |
| Apsu` | Right. | 19:55 |
| douglas | obviously | 19:55 |
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| douglas | yes | 19:56 |
| Apsu` | You have to remove all the filtering and security group bits. | 19:56 |
| douglas | yes | 19:56 |
| douglas | thats the problem | 19:56 |
| douglas | that vm, that is doing the routing | 19:56 |
| douglas | is sourcing traffic from a vm that quantum doesnt know about | 19:56 |
| Apsu` | You could always just SNAT in your gateway VMs. | 19:56 |
| Apsu` | Wouldn't need reverse routes that way, either. | 19:57 |
| Apsu` | iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o <tunnel> -j MASQUERADE, for instance | 19:57 |
| Apsu` | On each gateway VM on each cloud. | 19:57 |
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| Apsu` | Then when traffic from either side heads towards the other side, they'll get SNAT'd to the VPN tunnel IP as their source when they cross | 19:58 |
| douglas | just that one rule? I'm not even running iptables on the gateway vms | 19:58 |
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| Apsu` | iptables isn't actually a daemon; it's a userspace tool that talks to a kernel side subsystem, known collectively as netfilter. | 19:58 |
| Apsu` | Not having any existing rules doesn't mean you can't simply add one. | 19:58 |
| douglas | this cent os | 19:58 |
| douglas | cent os | 19:59 |
| Apsu` | Yep. So... try adding that rule. | 19:59 |
| douglas | alright ill add that rule | 19:59 |
| Apsu` | (on both ends) | 19:59 |
| douglas | start iptables with that rule | 19:59 |
| douglas | ok | 19:59 |
| Apsu` | Er, don't "start" anything. | 19:59 |
| Apsu` | Just run exactly what I typed. | 19:59 |
| douglas | ok | 19:59 |
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| Apsu` | If it works, we'll talk about how to make it persistent : | 20:00 |
| Apsu` | :P | 20:00 |
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| douglas | iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o tun0 -j MASQUERADE | 20:00 |
| Apsu` | Yep. | 20:00 |
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| Apsu` | That way traffic exiting through the tunnel will get SNAT'd to the (primary) IP on the tunnel interface. | 20:01 |
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| Apsu` | So responses will go right back to that interface, and the remote end should already know that network. At least I assume so, given what you've told me thus far. | 20:01 |
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| douglas | alright both rules are in place | 20:02 |
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| douglas | still not working | 20:05 |
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| douglas | service iptables start? | 20:05 |
| Apsu` | That'll just load whatever saved rules are stored in /etc/sysconfig/iptables*, which won't include your rule | 20:06 |
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| sc68cal | q/window 13 | 20:07 |
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| Apsu` | douglas: I hate troubleshooting complex networks over IRC without being able to see interfaces/IPs/routes/bridges/etc :P | 20:08 |
| Apsu` | It's basically impossible to be effective, hehe | 20:08 |
| douglas | I think I almost have it | 20:09 |
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| Apsu` | douglas: Perhaps you'll want to MASQUERADE on the gateway VM's -o eth0, and not -o tun0 | 20:11 |
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| Apsu` | douglas: Which will isolate the VPN and remote network from Quantum, as that's where your issue seemed to be. | 20:12 |
| Apsu` | douglas: I'd try that. You can -t nat -F to flush the nat rules, and add the new one appropriately | 20:12 |
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| amber_nic | Hi, I installed Openstack on a SingleNode but can't ping the Ubuntu server image that's running from the Openstack node. They are on the same network. Does anyone have a clue of what can be happening? | 20:19 |
| amber_nic | Maybe the Ubuntu server image is not mapped to eth1? | 20:19 |
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| Apsu` | amber_nic: You need to add security group rules to allow ICMP, or any other traffic you want to use | 20:21 |
| amber_nic | You mean on the default group, those on ICMP and SSH? | 20:22 |
| amber_nic | I'll try. | 20:22 |
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| douglas | Getting a destination prohibited message sent back from the gateway to the my vm that I am pinging from | 20:23 |
| douglas | I just added this rule | 20:23 |
| douglas | iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE | 20:23 |
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| douglas | let me say that again | 20:23 |
| douglas | getting a destination prohibited message sent back from the gateway to my vm that I am pinging from | 20:24 |
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| amber_nic | No, unfortunatelly doesn't work. | 20:28 |
| Apsu` | amber_nic: Yes. | 20:30 |
| Apsu` | amber_nic: You should provide more details on what exactly you added and how, and how you're testing. | 20:30 |
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| amber_nic | I followed this tuto: https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_SingleNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst | 20:31 |
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| Apsu` | douglas: That's quite odd. | 20:31 |
| Apsu` | douglas: Did you remove the previous rules? | 20:31 |
| douglas | iptables -F | 20:31 |
| douglas | then I issued this command | 20:32 |
| douglas | iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE | 20:32 |
| douglas | it looks like its not even going over the tunnel now | 20:32 |
| douglas | and when I say it I mean the echo request | 20:32 |
| amber_nic | Now via ssh on the openstack single node (.95) i'm trying to ping .96 | 20:32 |
| douglas | wish I knew more about iptables | 20:33 |
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| Apsu` | douglas: Well, what's happening here is any traffic which leaves eth0 is having its source IP set to the (primary) IP on eth0. | 20:35 |
| Apsu` | douglas: For most traffic, that will change nothing. Only the routed traffic we're concerned with (coming out tun0 and then through eth0) should have a different source | 20:36 |
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| douglas | o ok | 20:42 |
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| douglas | let me see if I see it going over the tunnel | 20:42 |
| douglas | or see if I see more traffic on the tunnel | 20:42 |
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| Apsu` | Sure | 20:44 |
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| douglas | thats strange | 20:45 |
| douglas | when I do 'tcpdump -i tun0' | 20:45 |
| douglas | on both nodes doing the routing | 20:45 |
| douglas | im not seeing any traffic now | 20:45 |
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| douglas | let me turn off iptables on both nodes that are doing the routing and see what happens | 20:48 |
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| amber_nic | Can someone give me a clue? | 20:50 |
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| Apsu` | douglas: Maybe you'd better paste the output of "iptables-save -c" on your boxes :P | 20:51 |
| Apsu` | amber_nic: You said you followed a guide, but, how did you add the rules? Can you show us the security group rules you added? Or just link to a paste of "iptables-save -c" from the host | 20:51 |
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| amber_nic | It's here: http://paste.openstack.org/show/38538/ | 20:54 |
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| douglas | [root@192-168-49-2 ~]# iptables-save -c # Generated by iptables-save v1.4.7 on Thu Jun 13 16:55:55 2013 *nat :PREROUTING ACCEPT [181:15212] :POSTROUTING ACCEPT [0:0] :OUTPUT ACCEPT [3:984] [3:984] -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE COMMIT # Completed on Thu Jun 13 16:55:55 2013 # Generated by iptables-save v1.4.7 on Thu Jun 13 16:55:55 2013 *filter :INPUT ACCEPT [0:0] :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0] :OUTPUT ACCEPT [340:37579] [141:12046] | 20:56 |
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| douglas | here ya go | 20:56 |
| douglas | http://paste.openstack.org/show/38539/ | 20:56 |
| Apsu` | douglas: Bet you started the iptables service, didn't ya? | 20:57 |
| douglas | ya | 20:57 |
| douglas | I did | 20:57 |
| Apsu` | douglas: Look at lines 19 and 20 | 20:57 |
| Apsu` | Your service injected ICMP prohibited messages for INPUT and FORWARD | 20:58 |
| douglas | I see that | 20:58 |
| Apsu` | Exactly what you're seeing now :) | 20:58 |
| douglas | fair enough | 20:58 |
| douglas | like I said | 20:58 |
| douglas | I dont know anything about iptabels | 20:58 |
| douglas | iptables | 20:58 |
| douglas | how can I just a permit ip any any | 20:58 |
| douglas | just do | 20:58 |
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| dsockwell | morning | 21:00 |
| dsockwell | so i'm creating a toy openstack environment in a vm for a demo, and the last time i touched it was during diablo | 21:01 |
| dsockwell | i only need one lvm group dedicated to openstack for things to nominally work, right? | 21:01 |
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| Apsu` | douglas: You can clear the filter table, for now. | 21:01 |
| iscsi | morning | 21:01 |
| Apsu` | douglas: iptables -t filter -F | 21:01 |
| Apsu` | douglas: You'll need to save the rules correctly for the iptables service, later, once it works. | 21:02 |
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| douglas | ok I cleared with iptables -t filter -F | 21:02 |
| * iscsi fight against quantum | 21:03 | |
| Apsu` | iscsi: Morning. | 21:03 |
| Apsu` | Quantum loves you! | 21:03 |
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| Apsu` | douglas: Now test your VPN. Should work again. Then test the other bits. | 21:04 |
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| smyers | douglas: In addition to flushing chains, double check the default policy on them (iptables -L), and change them to ACCEPT if necessary (look at iptables -D). | 21:05 |
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| smyers | Ignore this if everything's working, though. :) | 21:05 |
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| iscsi | Apsu`: can you feel my pain? :) | 21:05 |
| Apsu` | smyers: Chain policies are ACCEPTs, got an iptables-save -c finally, but good idea to mention! | 21:05 |
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| dtx00ff | @iscsi lol is that a registered nick. haha. | 21:06 |
| douglas | lokos like the vpn is working again | 21:06 |
| douglas | however the issue still remains | 21:06 |
| Apsu` | iscsi: Spent the last 3 weeks mastering Quantum, fixing bugs, building clusters, shoring up our cookbooks around it, and am deploying it for a customer this week. | 21:06 |
| amber_nic | Guys, here I can't make it work :( | 21:06 |
| smyers | Except I said iptables -D, which deletes stuff, not iptables -P, which changes default policy. So yeah. If it's working definitely ignore this. :D | 21:06 |
| Apsu` | iscsi: So... yep! | 21:06 |
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| Apsu` | But I've had great success, so yey | 21:06 |
| Apsu` | smyers: haha | 21:06 |
| douglas | with the clients in one cloud trying to talk to clients in another cloud | 21:06 |
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| Apsu` | amber_nic: Couple of things. You said you're on .95, trying to ping .96, right? | 21:07 |
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| amber_nic | Yes, but I deleted the instance and now is in .98 | 21:08 |
| Apsu` | amber_nic: Yeah, ok. Just checking, since I took a look at your iptables paste :) | 21:08 |
| amber_nic | Thanks :) | 21:08 |
| Apsu` | amber_nic: So... the host has an IP in this same network, visible on an interface when you run "ip a"? | 21:08 |
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| iscsi | dtx00ff: `iscsi' keyword is hard to find in internet search, try :) | 21:09 |
| wahly | i'm setting up a fresh openstack install (following http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/basic-install/yum/content/basic-install_controller.html) and I'm getting the following error from nova services: "Unable to connect to AMQP server: connection-forced: Authentication failed(320)". any pointers on how i should start fixing the nova/qpid communication? | 21:10 |
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| dtx00ff | @iscsi: i know what ISCSI is, thus my amusement | 21:10 |
| dtx00ff | lol | 21:10 |
| amber_nic | Apsu`: nope | 21:11 |
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| iscsi | wahly: try look into configuration files, see authentication parameters | 21:11 |
| Apsu` | amber_nic: Then that's your issue. You can ping from the network namespace, so the source IP will be the one dnsmasq uses. | 21:11 |
| iscsi | wahly: or try http://openstack.redhat.com/Quickstart | 21:12 |
| Apsu` | amber_nic: Run "ip netns" to list the namespaces; you should see a qdhcp* namespace, and possibly a qrouter* namespace if you're using l3-agents | 21:12 |
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| wahly | iscsi: aside from an rpm install, there wasn't realy any configuration done for qpidd. i did see qpid_user/qpid_pass (as guest/guest) in the nova configs, but that doesn't seem to be working | 21:12 |
| wahly | not sure if i need to create that user, or how to verify if it even exists | 21:13 |
| Apsu` | amber_nic: Then, run "ip netns exec <namespace> ip a" to list the interfaces/IPs in that namespace. | 21:13 |
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| iscsi | wahly: dig into keystone, I guess | 21:13 |
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| Apsu` | amber_nic: Find the one that has the IP you're using for DHCP (.97 from your iptables), then run "ping x.x.x.98" instead of "ip a" at the end of the namespace command. | 21:13 |
| Apsu` | amber_nic: Likewise you can ssh from inside the namespace. | 21:14 |
| amber_nic | I have 4 namespaces: qrouter-37622bd4-7242-4cfa-84a6-cf7fe8decbb9 | 21:14 |
| amber_nic | qdhcp-3acb6679-79bd-4791-be46-7d46b6e9093d | 21:14 |
| amber_nic | qdhcp-3b3d77f0-bb35-41aa-a303-f7cb6b2f4f65 | 21:14 |
| amber_nic | qdhcp-410e0960-442d-41fb-9e57-4a1e8c362bbb | 21:14 |
| Apsu` | amber_nic: Don't paste large chunks of text into the channel, please. | 21:14 |
| amber_nic | Sorry | 21:14 |
| Apsu` | I gave you steps to follow to figure out which namespace is the right one :) | 21:14 |
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| Apsu` | You can also identify it by the network your instance is connected to with the CIDR you care about | 21:14 |
| Apsu` | quantum net-list, copy the UUID of the appropriate net, and use the "qdhcp-<that UUID>" namespace | 21:15 |
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| cococafe | am trying to install ceilometer in DevStack. does anyone know where it gets installed or is it done outside of the startup | 21:16 |
| cococafe | ? | 21:16 |
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| amber_nic | I typed: "ip netns exec qdhcp-3acb6679-79bd-4791-be46-7d46b6e9093d ip a" | 21:17 |
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| amber_nic | This is the output: http://paste.openstack.org/show/38540/ | 21:18 |
| amber_nic | What should I do next? | 21:18 |
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| Apsu` | amber_nic: I told you :) ping from the namespace next. | 21:21 |
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| Apsu` | amber_nic: The command you typed was "ip netns exec <namespace> <command>", with "ip a" as the command. | 21:21 |
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| Apsu` | amber_nic: So... replace "ip a" with "ping <instance IP>" | 21:22 |
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| Apsu` | amber_nic: It should succeed. And given your other security group rule for TCP port 22, you should be able to ssh too. | 21:22 |
| amber_nic | Yes I did so but still haven't ping. | 21:22 |
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| Apsu` | amber_nic: You tried "ip netns exec qdhcp-3acb6679-79bd-4791-be46-7d46b6e9093d ping 190.99.97.98"? | 21:23 |
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| amber_nic | Exactly Apsu but still host unreachable. | 21:24 |
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| Apsu` | amber_nic: Check "nova console-log <instance-name>", make sure your instance actually Got an IP from DHCP. | 21:25 |
| Apsu` | Just because nova assigned it doesn't mean the instance communicated successfully. | 21:25 |
| wahly | iscsi: thanks for your help. i decided to just disable auth for qpidd. everything works now :) i'll worry about securing things later | 21:25 |
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| amber_nic | ERROR: No server with a name or ID of 'qdhcp-3acb6679-79bd-4791-be46-7d46b6e9093d' exists. | 21:26 |
| Apsu` | amber_nic: Instance name, not namespace :) | 21:26 |
| Apsu` | "nova list" to view them | 21:26 |
| amber_nic | Ok | 21:27 |
| kbringard | anyone running ceilometer? | 21:27 |
| amber_nic | http://paste.openstack.org/show/38547/ | 21:28 |
| coredump | So I have 2 instances running on the same host, that also runs a nova-network. I also have a floating IP address that is associated to instance1. Every machine on my network can connect to a certain UDP port on instance1, but not the instance that is running on the same host. I guess there's some firewall shenanigan going on because they are on the same host, did anyone ever see something like that? | 21:29 |
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| Apsu` | amber_nic: Yep, I was right. Didn't get an IP from DHCP. There's your problem. | 21:29 |
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| Apsu` | amber_nic: In order to help further, I'll need a lot more info about the host network/quantum config. I can tell you what to paste, if you're game. | 21:30 |
| amber_nic | Sure. | 21:30 |
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| Apsu` | amber_nic: Actually... before we do that... might be a simple fix. Is this ubuntu? | 21:32 |
| amber_nic | Yes | 21:32 |
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| Apsu` | amber_nic: Using the ovs plugin? | 21:33 |
| amber_nic | Yes | 21:33 |
| Apsu` | Cool | 21:33 |
| Apsu` | Start with: pkill dnsmasq; pkill quantum-ns; restart quantum-dhcp-agent; restart quantum-l3-agent | 21:34 |
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| Apsu` | Reboot your instance, watch the console-log, see if the "ciinfo" line for eth0 gets an actual IP | 21:34 |
| amber_nic | Ok | 21:35 |
| done__ | hi folks! in grizzly, does a compute node need any kind of database connection? I'm seeing some sql_connection settings mentioned in the "Compute Node" installation instructions. | 21:35 |
| Apsu` | amber_nic: If you're lucky, it's just dnsmasq not correctly reloading for providing the lease | 21:35 |
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| amber_nic | ciinfo: eth0 : 1 190.99.97.98 255.255.255.0 fa:16:3e:bc:81:68! | 21:36 |
| amber_nic | :) | 21:36 |
| Apsu` | Voila. | 21:37 |
| Apsu` | Now you should be able to ping/ssh from the namespace | 21:37 |
| Apsu` | (or externally) | 21:37 |
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| Apsu` | (assuming your subnet has a gateway and is on a provider network) | 21:37 |
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| amber_nic | Still no ping and no ssh. | 21:38 |
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| Apsu` | amber_nic: From in the namespace? | 21:39 |
| Apsu` | amber_nic: Maybe get on the console over VNC (or through horizon), we can test a couple things. | 21:39 |
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| iscsi | wahly: np | 21:40 |
| amber_nic | VNC doesn't work. | 21:40 |
| amber_nic | What's from in the namespace? | 21:40 |
| Apsu` | amber_nic: ping/ssh? | 21:40 |
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| Apsu` | VNC not working is bothersome :P | 21:40 |
| iscsi | amber_nic: security group? | 21:41 |
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| amber_nic | default: 2 rules TP from 22 to 22 and ICMP from 1 to 255. | 21:41 |
| iscsi | from -1 to -1 | 21:42 |
| Apsu` | The security groups are correct, iptables looks good | 21:43 |
| Apsu` | http://paste.openstack.org/show/38538/ | 21:43 |
| amber_nic | iscsi: changed it but still no connection | 21:43 |
| Apsu` | amber_nic: Are you still testing ping/ssh from the namespace, using ip netns exec? | 21:43 |
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| amber_nic | No, just regular ping from the ssh session on the Openstack SingleNode | 21:44 |
| amber_nic | And from my win box. | 21:44 |
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| Apsu` | amber_nic: Try it from the namespace, please, just like before. | 21:45 |
| amber_nic | Ok | 21:45 |
| Apsu` | Talking to it externally is potentially a separate problem to solve | 21:45 |
| Apsu` | But we know it can talk to the DHCP server, now | 21:45 |
| Apsu` | So if we talk From the DHCP server's IP (in the namespace), it should work. | 21:45 |
| amber_nic | Cool I got ping from there! | 21:46 |
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| Apsu` | Woot! | 21:46 |
| amber_nic | ip netns exec qdhcp-3acb6679-79bd-4791-be46-7d46b6e9093d ping 190.99.97.98 | 21:46 |
| Apsu` | Should be able to ssh into it as well, then. | 21:46 |
| kbringard | you can also do "ip netns exec qdhcp-3acb6679-79bd-4791-be46-7d46b6e9093d bash" to just go into the namespace and then ping, ssh, etc from there | 21:47 |
| kbringard | FYI | 21:47 |
| Apsu` | True | 21:47 |
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| Apsu` | Was hoping to reduce the complexity of spawning a shell and remembering which one you're in by sticking with one-liners, but namespaced shell = win | 21:48 |
| kbringard | lol, totally | 21:48 |
| Apsu` | :D | 21:48 |
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| kbringard | yea, sorry, wasn't trying to cause confusion | 21:48 |
| Apsu` | Nah, s'all good | 21:48 |
| amber_nic | ssh ubuntu@190.99.97.98 Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer | 21:48 |
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| Apsu` | amber_nic: Did you run "ip netns exec qdhcp-3acb6679-79bd-4791-be46-7d46b6e9093d ssh ubuntu@190.99.97.98"? | 21:49 |
| dsockwell | can you run tcpdump on all the involved interfaces? | 21:49 |
| dsockwell | see where the RST packet originates | 21:49 |
| amber_nic | Now I did and I got connection reset by peer. It's ubuntu 12.04 precise img. | 21:49 |
| amber_nic | When I ran stackops it did the same to me. | 21:50 |
| amber_nic | Don't know if it's an issue with that image. | 21:50 |
| Apsu` | amber_nic: Possible. Do you have another image to test spinning up? cirros perhaps? | 21:52 |
| amber_nic | Yes, I'll do that. Go down with ubuntu and try cirros. | 21:52 |
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| Apsu` | Cool. Once you can ssh into it (assuming you can), assuming this subnet has a gateway, and you've got a provider bridge/network setup right, qrouter or directly, presumably then you can hit the VM from externally | 21:53 |
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| Apsu` | If not you can unwind those issues one at a time | 21:55 |
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| amber_nic | Thanks for all guys! | 21:56 |
| amber_nic | Bye! | 21:56 |
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| done__ | hi! anyone know what the setting is to tell nova-compute to use nova-conductor instead of trying to access the database directly? | 22:07 |
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| ljt | G'day. I realise it's impossible to answer this definitively, but does anyone know the rough # of OpenStack deployments? | 22:58 |
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