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| evxd | fr33loader: i believe mikal meant `nova-manage vm list` | 00:39 |
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| fr33loader | thank you | 00:43 |
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| KaZeR_W | hey guys. | 00:52 |
| KaZeR_W | no matter what i do, i cannot get my hosts to reach hosts outside of the subnet range | 00:53 |
| KaZeR_W | can someone help me troubleshoot this? | 00:53 |
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| KaZeR_W | i followed this guide http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/basic-install/apt/content/basic-install_procs.html for my current attempt | 00:53 |
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| Dodge | Is it possible to stream video from swift object storage using nginx or apache servers ??? | 01:40 |
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| notmyname | Dodge: yes, it's possible to stream video from swift. Swift's API is "just" http, so your clients can connect directly to it to get the content. and with html5 video (ie "streaming" that uses range requests), it can work out of the box | 02:13 |
| notmyname | Dodge: for other type of streaming (flash and wmv and etc), you'll need a server-side piece to do the protocol translation and provide the keyframe and time offset support | 02:13 |
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| Dodge | notmyname: So the clients can login and playback videos like youtube and tey can upload vids also right? | 02:15 |
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| Dodge | notmyname : its very help full if you can provide some links and directions for this :) | 02:16 |
| notmyname | Dodge: sure, but that's kinda like saying "I've got nginx and and do regex. I can write google" | 02:16 |
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| Dodge | :D | 02:17 |
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| notmyname | Dodge: Swift can provide an awesome storage system for a video hosting service. there are features of swift that you can use to do some of the app heavy lifting (eg upload and server directly to/from swift) | 02:18 |
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| Dodge | notmyname: To do that i also need keystone server for authentication right ? is ter any alternatives | 02:31 |
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| notmyname | Dodge: sorry to drop off there. had to put my kids to bed | 03:42 |
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| notmyname | Dodge: yes you could use keystone, but there are several other auth systems you can use as well. swift has a test auth system out-of-the-box called tempauth, there is swauth (which uses swift itself as a keystore), there are other custom ones. read more at http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/overview_auth.html | 03:44 |
| notmyname | Dodge: pay attention to the bottom of that page which links to http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/development_auth.html which shows you how to do your own integration | 03:45 |
| Dodge | notmyname: not a problem i am also in work its a time pass for me ;) | 03:45 |
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| Dodge | notmyname: i know about tempauth but it cant be used with horizon and is it reliable like keystone | 03:48 |
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| notmyname | Dodge: tempauth is "temp auth" because it doesn't encrypt passwords, manages identity in the proxy config, and requires a proxy reload to change any identity info. however, it is extremely performant and very reliable (as reliable as swift itself) | 03:50 |
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| Dodge | notmyname: Is there any way to configure that temp auth part in another file and include it in proxy server config | 03:52 |
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| notmyname | Dodge: although I haven't used it myself yet, I think so. We recently merged a feature that allows swift to use conf.d style config directories. so you could have all the tempauth config in a separate file | 03:59 |
| notmyname | Dodge: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/deployment_guide.html | 04:01 |
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| notmyname | Dodge: actually, http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/deployment_guide.html#general-service-configuration | 04:01 |
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| Dodge | notmyname : Thanks for the links let me check it :) | 04:07 |
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| stewart | mordred: I can tell that nowhere in OpenStack CI is "launch a VM of Ubuntu 12.04 using KVM like a user would do with virsh or virt-manager and then run devstack, launch and instance and ssh into it" actually tested, because it doesn't work :) | 06:47 |
| stewart | maybe somebody can help with ^ | 06:47 |
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| RaviTezu | Hi all, | 09:54 |
| RaviTezu | I have a physical machine with 128GB RAM and 2TB storage.. so, i dont need any extra storage for vm's... | 09:54 |
| RaviTezu | Is it possible to run vm's with the local storage on controller node? | 09:54 |
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| RaviTezu | i mean to say, i want to implement compute alone and not storage. | 09:55 |
| RaviTezu | can some one help? | 09:56 |
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| Chocobo | Wow, what could happen that would actually wipe out the static address on three different nodes?! | 13:52 |
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| b1tbkt | since switching to rbd store for glance/cinder/libvirt the libvirt xml being generated does not include a virtual drive definition. nova shows a drive assigned though. which component is responsible for xml generation? | 14:22 |
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| Chocobo | I just had to reboot my cluster... it looks like everything came back up ok and my VMs are in the shutoff state. Should I just issue "reboot" to get them back? | 14:49 |
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| Chocobo | hmmm the vms are back up but quantum doesn't seem to be routing network correctly. | 14:53 |
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| st34lth | hey guys, any one uses packstack for deployment? | 15:56 |
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| st34lth | I want to start with 2 nodes, I'm wondering if it's smart enough to know when you re-run it to not reconfigure dbs etcs ... | 15:59 |
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| jkstrick | st34lth: If you start packstack the second time with the answer file generated in your first run, then I think you should be good. | 16:06 |
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| jkstrick | I haven't had any problems re-running with the answer file generated from the all-in-one (1 node) config | 16:07 |
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| KaZeR_W | hi there | 16:19 |
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| wahly_ | if i create a VM on a KVM host with virsh/virt-manager, would openstack "discover" it? i.e. would it show up in the dashboard somewhere? | 16:27 |
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| jkstrick | wahly_: nope | 16:29 |
| wahly_ | would it be safe to say that it is "not best practice" to create VMs on the hypervisor outside of nova? | 16:30 |
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| jkstrick | I don't think having the extra VM running will confuse nova or anything, but it would be eating resources on your compute node. | 16:36 |
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| KaZeR_W | wahly_ i believe so, because otherwise you can't tie it to a project, tenant, ressources planning, etc | 17:01 |
| wahly_ | thanks KaZeR_W | 17:01 |
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| ace\ | img + flavor -> deployment; is there a doc of common ways to keep data persistant and where? | 17:02 |
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| Chocobo | Hi all. I just rebooted my cluster, all the networking stucture (name spaces, bridges, taps, tunnels, etc) seem to be there. I did a "nova reboot" on the instances and I can their kvm processes... yet I don't seem to have any networking to them. What should I check next? | 17:30 |
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| bblood | Chocobo: what quantum plugin are you using? OVS? | 17:46 |
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| Chocobo | bblood: yes | 17:48 |
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| KaZeR_W | talkin about quantum.. i cannot get my instances to reach anything outside of their private subnet (using OVS too) | 17:49 |
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| Chocobo | interesting.. I can't even ping the instances within the qrouter namespace. | 17:50 |
| crobertsrh | I have an instance running on devstack that shows-up as Active/Running in the UI, but I'm hoping that someone can explain why it never seems to fully finish booting. Thanks in advance. Here is my "full log" from the openstack UI. http://fpaste.org/21727/44091413/ | 17:51 |
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| Chocobo | bblood: any ideas? | 17:56 |
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| liquid-silence | lovclrtxt :P | 18:08 |
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| Chocobo | Ok, I tried deleting my VM, recreating it and assigning it a public ip. I can only get to it from within the namespace. If I delete all the networks and recreate them it works fine. grrrrr | 18:13 |
| st34lth | i've not dealt with this in a while, what is it we do again for instances that refused to get deleted in diablo | 18:13 |
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| Chocobo | Quantum should recreate the network on server reboot correct? There aren't any additional steps that need to be taken? | 18:29 |
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| gmi | Chocobo:there is a tool called quantum-ovs-cleanup that might help you (https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg22951.html) | 18:37 |
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| Chocobo | gmi: It is my understanding that removes unused ovs devices? I am having a problem where the network doesn't work after rebooting the server. | 18:40 |
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| gmi | Chocobo:yes, that tool is supposed this kind of issues | 18:41 |
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| Chocobo | gmi: it didn't seem to do anything. I ran "quantum-ovs-cleanup --config-dir /etc/quantum" on all nodes. | 18:42 |
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| gmi | Chocobo: try stopping all quantum agents on the network node and compute node, run the cleanup tool then restart services; then reboot a test instance | 18:43 |
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| gmi | Chocobo: the original bug report is here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1091605 | 18:44 |
| Chocobo | gmi: is it ok if I stop ALL openstack services (I just ask becasue I have a script)? | 18:44 |
| gmi | Chocobo:sure, it cannot hurt | 18:45 |
| Chocobo | gmi: ok... should I reboot hard or soft? | 18:46 |
| KaZeR_W | guys, with this network topology : http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/2955/vfj0.png which machines should be able to reach 172.16.128.0/24, which is my real network ? | 18:46 |
| Chocobo | gmi: I didn't even have to reboot the vms. | 18:47 |
| Chocobo | gmi: this is going to sound kinda gay, but I really wish I could give you a hug. | 18:47 |
| gmi | Chocobo: a virtual hug :) | 18:47 |
| Chocobo | gmi: Damn, you have helped me so much today and in the past. Thanks, you obviously having a fantastic understanding of this stuff. | 18:48 |
| Chocobo | I am still trying to wrap my head around _how_ the networking stuff works... if I could figure that out it might make my life a lot easier. | 18:49 |
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| KaZeR_W | Chocobo: amen :) | 18:49 |
| KaZeR_W | lunch break | 18:49 |
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| Chocobo | KaZeR_W: If I ever find a good explanation I will let you know :) | 18:50 |
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| gmi | Chocobo: welcome; now you have to add that utility in rc.local and then restart the quantum agents, both in rc.local | 18:51 |
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| Chocobo | gmi: good point. I might even just even disable auto-start of all services and then run the scrip in the rc.local, followed by starting services. Is there a particular order services should be started? | 18:52 |
| gmi | Chocobo:I don't think there is any dependency order, use the same order you have in your "restart" | 18:53 |
| gmi | script | 18:53 |
| Chocobo | gmi: good call. | 18:53 |
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| Chocobo | gmi: one more issue if you are up for it? Can a single instance of novnc-proxy proxy the console from all compute nodes? I am curious because I don't understand "vncserver_proxyclient_address" which seems like the address of the compute node to connect to. What about the other compute nodes? | 18:56 |
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| gmi | Chocobo:"vncserver_proxyclient_address" is the management IP of the compute node, where the controller should proxy the connections to; read this for a better explanation: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/e93514d3-c4f0-4aa0-8844-497f370090f5/entry/openstack_vnc_console18?lang=en | 18:58 |
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| gmi | Chocobo: and yes, a single novnc-proxy will proxy the console from all compute nodes' instances | 19:01 |
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| Chocobo | gmi: so it looks like step 3 is what confuses me. I guess I don't fully understand what the "vnc host" is. | 19:05 |
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| Chocobo | gmi: this is what I currently have: http://pastie.org/pastes/8092230/text | 19:09 |
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| gmi | Chocobo: the vnc host is the kvm server where the instance runs; but the kvm host might have three IP-ed interfaces, so Nova needs to know what IP to tell the controller to proxy the console from | 19:11 |
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| Chocobo | gmi: ahhh that makes so much more sense. So... interesting. I think my setup is correct but it doesn't work hrm. | 19:12 |
| gmi | Chocobo:that config looks fine to me | 19:12 |
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| gmi | Chocobo: let's say you have a VM running on test1, with the console sent to port 5902; if you try to view its console in dashboard while doing a "tcpdump -i eth??? tcp and port 5902" you should see the traffic comming from your haproxy node | 19:15 |
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| gmi | Chocobo:your compute nodes are also novnc-proxy nodes and are added in the haproxy pool? | 19:22 |
| Chocobo | gmi: one second and I will test that. | 19:22 |
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| Chocobo | gmi: my novnc-proxy nodes are also running nova-compute | 19:23 |
| Chocobo | gmi: I am not sure what you mean by "and are added in the haproxy pool" | 19:24 |
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| gmi | Chocobo:then there is a good chance that when you click on the console in dashboard, the request goes to 130.xxx.yy.224:6080 and from there 10.80.1.1:6080 which the connects to itself on port 5902 | 19:25 |
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| Chocobo | so my vm is running on test1: " ... -vnc 0.0.0.0:0 ... " my management interface with 10.80.1.1 is eth1. I ran "tcpdump -i eth1 tcp and port 5900" tried open the vnc connection and got nothing. | 19:28 |
| Chocobo | gmi: by nothing I mean Failed to connect to server (code: 1006) | 19:28 |
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| Chocobo | gmi: hmmm. | 19:29 |
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| gmi | Chocobo: run "ps aux | grep kvm" and look for the "-vnc" for that instance to find the exact port number; if it's 0.0.0.0:3, then the port is 5903 | 19:31 |
| Chocobo | -vnc 0.0.0.0:0 | 19:31 |
| gmi | Chocobo: sorry, I missed that part; any tcp traffic in the capture? | 19:31 |
| Chocobo | gmi: -vnc 0.0.0.0:0 (sorry, I know putting your name in helps highlight) | 19:31 |
| Chocobo | gmi: nothing. | 19:32 |
| Chocobo | I tried both nics too... | 19:32 |
| Chocobo | gmi: LISTEN 0 1 *:5900 *:* users:(("kvm",18236,16)) | 19:32 |
| gmi | Chocobo:can you check the haproxy node to see where the initial request was dispatched? | 19:32 |
| Chocobo | gmi: I am not exactly sure the correct way to do that, but haproxy is running on test1 as well... all requests should be coming into test1 | 19:33 |
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| gmi | Chocobo: what is your active haproxy node? which node currently owns 130.xxx.yy.224 ? | 19:35 |
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| Chocobo | gmi: I am looking at the haproxy web frontend and I see traffic on the "nova-novnc-proxy" entry. | 19:35 |
| Chocobo | gmi: test1 | 19:35 |
| Chocobo | gmi: 130.xxx.yy.224 is on br-ex on test1, and haproxy is running there as well. | 19:36 |
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| gmi | Chocobo:do you have any checks in haproxy for which nodes to keep in the pool? is it possible that test1 is not receiving traffic on 6080? | 19:36 |
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| Chocobo | gmi: I do not. let me try telneting to port 6080 | 19:37 |
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| Chocobo | gmi: hrmm, I can telnet to it fine. no firewalls causing issues or anything. Why on earth is there 0 traffic. | 19:38 |
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| Chocobo | gmi: take a look at this: http://pastie.org/8092318 | 19:40 |
| Chocobo | I just hit "s" for fun | 19:40 |
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| Chocobo | gmi: there does seem to plenty of traffic on 6080 | 19:41 |
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| Chocobo | Hmm and there seems to be quite a bit of internal traffic on 6080 between all three nodes. | 19:42 |
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| gmi | Chocobo:I have to leave in a few minutes, see if Cisco can help you :) http://docwiki.cisco.com/wiki/COE_Grizzly_Release:_High-Availability_Manual_Installation_Guide#Load_Balancer_Node_Installation | 19:43 |
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| Chocobo | gmi: thanks, I have read this before... I wasn't a huge fan of the non-local binding | 19:44 |
| Chocobo | gmi: thanks for the help, I will keep plugging away at it. | 19:45 |
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| Chocobo | instead of non-local binding I move haproxy and the VIP around with pacemaker. | 19:46 |
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| Chocobo | gmi: I know you have to leave, but I used nova get-vnc-console to get a link, put in a browser and hit refresh a bunch of times and it finally came up. | 19:51 |
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| Chocobo | gmi: and it comes up every multiple of nodes that I have :/ | 19:52 |
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| gmi | Chocobo: yeah, it might something weird hapenning; try to enable debugging in nova.conf, restart services and look for any errors in the logs | 19:53 |
| gmi | I really have to go now | 19:54 |
| Chocobo | gmi: Thank you so much for your help | 19:54 |
| gmi | Chocobo:welcome | 19:54 |
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| st34lth | so i'm dealing with an old instance that has a bunch of instances that i'd like to backup but i'm running into all sort of problems, 1- there's no db for them, the only db i see in mysql is the one for glance, if I click on instance name, I get a internal error message, through the gui, I can't do a nova show 'server' because I can't get to its uiid | 20:04 |
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| st34lth | nova-manage service list gives me CRITICAL nova (OperationalError) unable to open database file None None | 20:05 |
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| st34lth | on kvm, I can connect to vms directly using virsh and virt-manager, but clone etc fail because images were created attaching nova volumes. | 20:08 |
| st34lth | anyone faced this type of issue before? | 20:08 |
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| st34lth | so I figured I could get id from urls, was able to harvest them from logs etc.. and nova show id gives ERROR: The server has either erred or is incapable of performing the requested operation. (HTTP 500) | 20:12 |
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| st34lth | switched users around and still fails. both from my rc, and local user and admin. either ways i can't do much | 20:15 |
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| Chocobo | st34lth: is kvm running? or are these just disk images? | 20:18 |
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| st34lth | kvm is running, virt-manager connects to the vms | 20:18 |
| Chocobo | st34lth: and you want to create snapshots? this may help: http://kashyapc.wordpress.com/2011/10/04/snapshotting-with-libvirt-for-qcow2-images/ | 20:19 |
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| Chocobo | st34lth: sorry, I didn't read one of your middle posts. | 20:21 |
| st34lth | Chocobo your solution actually allows me to create snapshot through virsh | 20:21 |
| st34lth | Chocobo i just now have to figure out how to export | 20:22 |
| Chocobo | st34lth: Oh good! I thought I wasted your time there. :) | 20:22 |
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| st34lth | nono. I just always dealt with instances in kvm that have files as disks, the way openstack saves its vms, i couldn't figure outt how to back the images up Chocobo | 20:23 |
| KaZeR_W | Chocobo: are your instances able to reach a public network? | 20:24 |
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| jfarschman | anyone know what I should check if my dnsmasq server is not using upstream servers? | 20:25 |
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| jfarschman | nvm…. dnsmasq pulls the upstream server list from /etc/resolv.conf…. mine was empty | 20:27 |
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| Chocobo | KaZeR_W: They are. I think gmi got me all straightened out. I had to run the quantum-ovs-cleanup utility after stopping all the services. | 20:29 |
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| Chocobo | Ok, this is really strange. I think this is a bug. If I click on and instances, use it's vnc console and then go back and click on a different instance I get the vnc terminal of the first instance! | 20:41 |
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| KaZeR_W | Chocobo: you you mind sharing a screenshot of your network topology? | 20:44 |
| KaZeR_W | s/^you/would/g | 20:44 |
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| Chocobo | KaZeR_W: You mean in dashboard? | 20:46 |
| Chocobo | KaZeR_W: are you have problems getting to the outside world? | 20:48 |
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| KaZeR_W | Chocobo: i would not say problems.. i would call that a really hard time :) i've been on this for several days.. | 20:50 |
| KaZeR_W | Chocobo: yes in dashboard | 20:50 |
| KaZeR_W | here is my current topology : http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/2955/vfj0.png | 20:50 |
| KaZeR_W | for this attempt, i followed this doc : http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/basic-install/apt/content/basic-install_operate.html | 20:51 |
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| KaZeR_W | none of my hosts are able to reach physical hosts in the 172.16.128.0/24 network | 20:51 |
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| Chocobo | KaZeR_W: http://i.imgur.com/BduVIZN.png | 20:54 |
| KaZeR_W | thanks Chocobo | 20:54 |
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| KaZeR_W | Chocobo: can you share a bit more about your routers/network setup? my hosts 'tete' which i guess is close to your setup is unable to reach the outside world, | 20:55 |
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| Chocobo | KaZeR_W: When I had this problem I did not have my public network setup correctly. My floating pool was 130.xxx.yy.208/29 so when I created the public network I had to create it as 130.xxx.yy.0/24, set the gateway to 130.xxx.yy.1, and then set the allocation pool to 130.xxx.yy.208,130.xxx.yy.215 | 20:55 |
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| Chocobo | KaZeR_W: I also did not enable DHCP on the public network. On the private network it was pretty standard... 192.168.0.0/24, I left the gateway blank, I kept dhcp enabled and added the google nameservers (8.8.8.8,8.8.4.4) | 20:57 |
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| Chocobo | also notice from my screen shot: The more tabs you have open the more likely it is to work :P | 20:58 |
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| KaZeR_W | ahah Chocobo i think i have at least 18 of them :) i might need more ctrl+T :) | 21:00 |
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| KaZeR_W | mmm. | 21:02 |
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| Chocobo | KaZeR_W: I have to take off. I will back later tonight (8 or 9 EST). Maybe I can give you a hand. Good luck! | 21:03 |
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| KaZeR_W | thanks Chocobo! | 21:04 |
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| KaZeR_W | how are you supposed to delete floating ip? i would like to get rid of a network, but i can't because it has 2 floating ip associated. and i cannot delete them | 21:58 |
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| bblood | KaZeR_W: run "quantum floatingip-list" followed by "quantum floatingip-delete id_of_ip" | 22:15 |
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| bblood | i don't think it can be done from horizon | 22:16 |
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| KaZeR_W | ah. | 22:18 |
| KaZeR_W | api call? or cmdline? | 22:18 |
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| bblood | command line | 22:25 |
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| CoilDomain | not sure im doing this right, i did a few different installs through different methods, most of the quick and dirty all-in-one installs, i kept the one im using now but i started to try cloud init | 22:33 |
| CoilDomain | in some of the installs i did, it set the hostname, but on my current one that doesnt seem to happen | 22:34 |
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| KaZeR_W | thanks bblood i did not saw your commands at first, only your "i don't think it can be done from horizon" hence my question about cmdline :0 | 23:16 |
| KaZeR_W | :) | 23:16 |
| bblood | did you get your issue fixed? | 23:17 |
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| KaZeR_W | bblood: floating ips are now deleted but i'm still struggling to get my instance to be able to communicate with external hosts | 23:23 |
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| bblood | KaZeR_W: i'm struggling through that myself right now | 23:45 |
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