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mpae | hello? | 00:11 |
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fifieldt | hi | 00:11 |
mpae | :) | 00:11 |
mpae | haven't been on IRC in years | 00:11 |
fifieldt | it's surprising how much such a modern project uses it :) | 00:12 |
mpae | I just got ostack up on a juju/maas cluster but haven't been able to figure out how to get the console working :( | 00:12 |
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mpae | spent the past couple hours looking for information on google | 00:12 |
fifieldt | the console in the openstack dashboard? | 00:12 |
mpae | yes | 00:12 |
fifieldt | is it not appearing, or erroring? | 00:13 |
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mpae | when I click "console" in the action column of the instance list, it spins for a while then returns with a gateway timeout | 00:14 |
mpae | I think status was like 502 | 00:14 |
fifieldt | ah, right | 00:14 |
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fifieldt | so that'd be because one piece of it can't talk to another | 00:14 |
mpae | VM works great, networking works great, but this one piece doesn't work | 00:14 |
fifieldt | did you read about how the 'proxy' system works? | 00:14 |
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mpae | that's what I figured, but I couldn't figure out which was having problems | 00:14 |
mpae | vnc proxy? | 00:14 |
fifieldt | yeah | 00:15 |
fifieldt | http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/getting-started-with-vnc-proxy.html | 00:15 |
mpae | I found an openstack page on vnc proxy, but I was figuring that the juju charm writers would have accounted for it, and that I failed to expose something or set some setting | 00:15 |
fifieldt | one would hope | 00:15 |
mpae | which was the case for most of the roadblocks I've faced so far | 00:15 |
fifieldt | but it certainly seems like a firewall issue | 00:15 |
mpae | the link you gave me is the page I was looking at earlier | 00:16 |
fifieldt | yup | 00:16 |
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fifieldt | it's the best resource there is | 00:16 |
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mpae | that at least tells me I wasn't completely off the mark :) | 00:16 |
fifieldt | the fact that you're using juju means you're already thinking about automation, which is a very good thing | 00:17 |
fifieldt | but anyway | 00:17 |
fifieldt | what I'd be checking | 00:17 |
fifieldt | is how the firewall is setup | 00:17 |
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fifieldt | and making sure that you can talk to the vncproxy from wherever your client is | 00:17 |
mpae | well, I'm doing my own little skunk works thing to get my company to adopt openstack rather than reinventing the wheel | 00:17 |
mpae | :) | 00:17 |
fifieldt | mpae, Intel's IT Department started their deployment in the same way :) | 00:17 |
mpae | so automation is key | 00:18 |
fifieldt | indeed | 00:18 |
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mpae | well, my challenge is I'm not IT, I'm engineering, our IT department is in bed with vmware :( | 00:18 |
fifieldt | know the feeling :) | 00:18 |
mpae | but anyway... back to the problem :) | 00:18 |
fifieldt | ya | 00:18 |
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mpae | I'm looking at the chart... | 00:19 |
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mpae | I've tried nova get-vnc-console and that seemed to timeout as well | 00:20 |
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mpae | not sure if that's a helpful detail | 00:20 |
fifieldt_ | where are you running these commands from - a different machine? | 00:21 |
mpae | from the maas controller | 00:21 |
fifieldt_ | is the service running? | 00:21 |
fifieldt_ | nova-manage service list | 00:21 |
mpae | I could never get that command working | 00:22 |
fifieldt_ | ah, right | 00:22 |
mpae | all of the other cli commands work | 00:22 |
fifieldt_ | what does it say when you try to run that? | 00:22 |
mpae | IOError permission denied /var/log/nova/nova-manage.log | 00:23 |
fifieldt_ | right, perhaps try running it with a sudo | 00:23 |
fifieldt_ | >? | 00:23 |
mpae | I even tried sudo chmod 777 -R /var/log/nova | 00:23 |
mpae | and it still gives me that | 00:23 |
mpae | which is what really baffles me | 00:23 |
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mpae | sudo nova-manage does seem to work | 00:24 |
mpae | but nothing is returned | 00:24 |
mpae | i've exposed the cloud-controller | 00:24 |
fifieldt_ | hmmm | 00:24 |
fifieldt_ | what version of OpenStack are you running? | 00:24 |
mpae | grizzly | 00:25 |
fifieldt_ | I thought the IOError sillyness was fixed in Essex (https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/939531) it must have regressed :) | 00:25 |
fifieldt_ | oh well | 00:25 |
fifieldt_ | at least does the process list show the vncproxy in there? | 00:26 |
mpae | you mean ps -ef? | 00:26 |
fifieldt_ | ya | 00:26 |
mpae | or nova-manage | 00:26 |
fifieldt_ | and does it appear to be listening when you run netstat -anp | 00:26 |
fifieldt_ | ps | 00:26 |
mpae | would that be on the same node as compute? | 00:26 |
fifieldt_ | wherever it is running | 00:27 |
mpae | I searched for vnc and only found processes in compute | 00:27 |
fifieldt_ | it can run anywhere | 00:27 |
fifieldt_ | which vnc processes do you have on compute | 00:27 |
mpae | and no it looks like it's just kvm | 00:27 |
mpae | not a vnc process | 00:27 |
fifieldt_ | oh well | 00:27 |
mpae | I did a `ps -ef | grep -i vnc` on all nodes | 00:27 |
fifieldt_ | right | 00:27 |
fifieldt_ | so it looks like the service isn't running | 00:27 |
mpae | so, the proxy I guess is not running | 00:27 |
mpae | yes | 00:27 |
fifieldt_ | yeah | 00:28 |
fifieldt_ | so, how to start it ? :) | 00:28 |
fifieldt_ | grep your juju charms first, perhaps | 00:28 |
mpae | is there a common service name? | 00:28 |
mpae | I mean OS level service (init script) | 00:28 |
fifieldt_ | oh - grep as well for nova-consoleauth | 00:28 |
fifieldt_ | the other service is called nova-novncproxy | 00:29 |
mpae | ok, I'll search for that | 00:29 |
fifieldt_ | probably both of these should be on your 'controller' | 00:29 |
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mpae | that's what I'm thinking... I did a recursive grep on all the charms and only match for vnc was the controller and glance charms | 00:30 |
gdubreui | Hi, running quantum-server on a controller node and the rest of the agents on the network node do we still need the plugin (ovs) to be running on the controller along the server? | 00:32 |
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mpae | wonderful, nova-novncproxy isn't installed anywhere | 00:34 |
mpae | :) | 00:34 |
fifieldt_ | cool | 00:34 |
fifieldt_ | there's your problem :) | 00:34 |
mpae | so I guess that points to a gap in the charms | 00:34 |
fifieldt_ | damn | 00:34 |
fifieldt_ | bug report time! | 00:34 |
mpae | I'll read up on how to get it manually set up, and yes bug report :) | 00:34 |
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fifieldt_ | good luck mpae | 00:34 |
mpae | thank you very much for your help | 00:34 |
fifieldt_ | no worries | 00:34 |
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fifieldt_ | If you've not seen it already, you might be interested in: http://docs.openstack.org/ops/ | 00:35 |
fifieldt_ | it has some 'best practices' for these kinds of things | 00:35 |
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mpae | it's on my list of things to review, I pulled up all of the manuals/documents from docs.openstack.org | 00:36 |
mpae | :) | 00:36 |
mpae | but I appreciate the suggestion nonetheless | 00:36 |
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fifieldt_ | gdubreui, I'm not sure :( | 00:36 |
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gdubreui | fifieldt_, yeah the wiki is ambiguous about it! | 00:37 |
fifieldt_ | can you test and update the wiki? ;D | 00:37 |
fifieldt_ | also - which wiki page so I can lodge a docc bug | 00:38 |
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gdubreui | fifieldt_, http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-network/admin/content/app_demo_routers_with_private_networks.html | 00:40 |
gdubreui | fifieldt_, The "L2 Agent" is not on the controller but the following page mention it, in the installation, first chapter - Controller -> 4. | 00:41 |
gdubreui | fifieldt_, Well actually I might be wrong | 00:41 |
fifieldt_ | the fact that it's not 100% clear from first reading is enough to make it a bug in my book :) | 00:42 |
gdubreui | fifieldt_, I like that approach!!! | 00:42 |
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fifieldt_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1197203 | 00:44 |
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gdubreui | fifieldt_, well the ambiguity comes from the fact the ovs_quantum_plugin.ini is needed and used by the quantum-server. Now what's not clear is if the OVS is needed or not. (I believe it's not) | 00:45 |
gdubreui | fifieldt_: thanks | 00:45 |
fifieldt_ | thanks for that | 00:45 |
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Chocobo | Does anyone know of a good CentOS 6.4 image with cloud-init? | 01:29 |
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b1tbkt | what part of nova is responsible for constructing the qemu command line? more specifically, is it cobbled together on the node or the controller? | 01:42 |
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cburgess | b1tbkt: nova-compute communicates with libvirt and programtically defines XML that is loaded by libvirt and libvirt in turn spawns a QEMU/KVM process with the proper arguements. | 02:20 |
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stikstak | i have VMs booted with volumes attached using cinder, which works, but after I reboot the system the VMs doesnt come on, and I get the following: "libvirtError: unable to set user and group to '124:136' on '/dev/disk/by-path/ip-192.168.20.12:3260-iscsi-iqn.2010-10.org.openstack:volume-8bef7-lun-1': No such file or directory" any idea how to fix this? | 02:58 |
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palmtown | Hello, I'm having a problem with vm's accessing the metadata service and getting an ip. Willing to pay to get some help from someone who can assist. I'm running centos, grizzly | 03:02 |
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liquid-silence | johhmmm | 05:05 |
liquid-silence | hmmm | 05:05 |
liquid-silence | openstack vm is kicking me in the face | 05:06 |
liquid-silence | cannot download files via wget | 05:06 |
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liquid-silence | had to up the mtu | 05:13 |
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emccormick | anybody around have a minute to help a noob solve an infuriating quantum issue? | 05:17 |
emccormick | seems I'm 99% of the way to having this thing working. got DHCP to VM's, router interfaces all working and pingable from the network node. can't seem to ping the default gateway on the public net from the namespace of the tenant router | 05:17 |
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emccormick | the gateway device even can arp the tenant router | 05:18 |
emccormick | owever namespace on the netnode shows <incompete> arping the gateway | 05:18 |
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linuxmohan | Hi all…Sorry If I'm asking stupid question….im newbie to openstack and my experience is with proprietary cloud management software,does open stack support configuring network devices like LB,FW... | 05:21 |
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emccormick | it has those functions within itself (iptables / security groups) and Lbaas (basically HAProxy) via quantum | 05:24 |
emccormick | if you mean physical device configurations, it does, but it is dependent on various plugins to quantum. Really depends on your hardware vendor | 05:25 |
linuxmohan | Does it mean it configures cisco devices? | 05:25 |
emccormick | like Juniper I know has a quantum plugin that will work with JUNOS gear | 05:25 |
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linuxmohan | Ok | 05:25 |
emccormick | cisco yes, but not out of the box | 05:26 |
emccormick | if you wanna shell out the bucks for Nexus, you're golden | 05:26 |
emccormick | Cisco has a nexus plugin for quantum | 05:26 |
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linuxmohan | Scenario is one of our customer (Cloud Service provider) using some cloud management software and it fails to do network configuration | 05:28 |
linuxmohan | So the customer is planning to add another layer to configure network provisioning in cloud | 05:28 |
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linuxmohan | Does openstack fits in this scenario? | 05:28 |
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emccormick | well, you can run openstack independent of any external hardware. Your whole software-defined network can live inside your cloud and and gre tunnels between nodes | 05:29 |
emccormick | so that's one way to go about it | 05:30 |
emccormick | if you're tied to hardware vlan configurations on cisco gear, best thing to do is discuss it with cisco and ask about their plugin for openstack | 05:30 |
emccormick | really though, it's best to get out of the whole device configuration change imho. | 05:31 |
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linuxmohan | For the first option does it go well if the virtualization platform is XEN? | 05:32 |
emccormick | xen is a supported hypervisor along with many others | 05:33 |
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s2r2 | Good morning #openstack. I'm wondering about something related to using Quantum^WNeutron with Open vSwitch: Where does the openvswitch-controller come in? Is it to be run on the nova controller, on every quantum-ovs-agent machine, not at all...? Is Neutron talking to it or will it just recognize what happens to one of its managed ovs-vswitchd and *do | 07:02 |
s2r2 | intelligent stuff* do the other ovs-vswitchd's? | 07:02 |
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linuxmohan | #openstack-vmware | 08:18 |
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dhananjay | Hi all | 08:42 |
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dhananjay | I have set up a devstack and got instances running | 08:45 |
dhananjay | but floating IP is not working | 08:46 |
dhananjay | any clues? | 08:46 |
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koolhead17 | hi all | 08:51 |
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itarchitectkev | hey koolhead17 | 08:57 |
itarchitectkev | howdy everyone | 08:57 |
koolhead17 | itarchitectkev: hello there | 08:58 |
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koolhead17 | how is book coming along sir? | 08:58 |
itarchitectkev | its coming along somewhere… August is the estimated date. | 08:58 |
itarchitectkev | none of this "5 days malarky" | 08:58 |
itarchitectkev | ;) | 08:58 |
koolhead17 | hahaha | 08:59 |
koolhead17 | Daviey: ping | 08:59 |
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ekarlso | lool: yo | 09:17 |
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ekarlso | koolhead17: :) | 09:17 |
koolhead17 | hey hey ekarlso | 09:17 |
ekarlso | itarchitectkev: fetch us devs for BS | 09:18 |
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koolhead17 | ekarlso: did u mail for same in the mailinglist? | 09:18 |
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ekarlso | yeah, tried so :p | 09:19 |
lool | ekarlso: yo | 09:19 |
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ekarlso | don't think anyone likes billing though :/ | 09:19 |
koolhead17 | ekarlso: did you put the screencast yet? | 09:19 |
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ekarlso | nope | 09:20 |
itarchitectkev | ekarlso, you want some devs for bullshit? | 09:20 |
itarchitectkev | oooh BillingStack ;-) | 09:21 |
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koolhead17 | tsk tsk itarchitectkev BS = billingstack | 09:21 |
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karppo | exit | 09:57 |
karppo | no.. not here.. | 09:57 |
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thoint | /join ##penis | 10:51 |
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thoint | /join ##penis | 11:03 |
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B_Night | Hi All I have problem with OpenStack running on ubuntu 12.04 | 11:07 |
B_Night | I try to run Grizzly for a few days now | 11:07 |
B_Night | however after apt-get update && apt-get upgrade | 11:08 |
B_Night | my keystone failed to run keystone-manage db_sync | 11:08 |
B_Night | here is the output | 11:08 |
B_Night | File "/usr/lib/python2.7/json/__init__.py", line 326, in loads return _default_decoder.decode(s) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/json/decoder.py", line 366, in decode obj, end = self.raw_decode(s, idx=_w(s, 0).end()) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/json/decoder.py", line 382, in raw_decode obj, end = self.scan_once(s, idx) ValueError: Expecting property name: line 1 column 1 (char 1) | 11:08 |
koolhead17 | B_Night: do you have ubuntu cloud repo in place to use grizzly on 12.04 | 11:09 |
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B_Night | yup | 11:09 |
B_Night | the package of keystone is | 11:09 |
B_Night | 1:2013.1.2-0ubuntu2~cloud2 | 11:09 |
B_Night | which trays to install previous one was | 11:09 |
B_Night | 1:2013.1.2-0ubuntu2~cloud0 | 11:09 |
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B_Night | I don`t get it why everytime the upgrade failed for some reason it shouldn`t be like this and this is an evnironment which I try to migrate from earlier release on Openstack to the current one I consider myself very experienced with openstack but this drives me crazy | 11:11 |
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koolhead17 | B_Night: 1:2013.1.1-0ubuntu2~cloud0 i am using | 11:11 |
B_Night | yup don`t try the upgrade function then :D | 11:11 |
koolhead17 | B_Night: how about filing a bug giving all the detials? | 11:11 |
B_Night | I will do that | 11:12 |
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B_Night | koolhead17: my error the keystone which it try to install is Setting up keystone (1:2013.1.2-0ubuntu2~cloud0) | 11:15 |
B_Night | so apperently is some other error | 11:15 |
koolhead17 | B_Night: you just upgraded keystone and this error came right? | 11:16 |
B_Night | yup | 11:16 |
B_Night | and was working fine before that | 11:16 |
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koolhead17 | B_Night: why did u do a db_sync after upgrade? | 11:19 |
B_Night | aperently dpkg try to run it in order to configure keystone | 11:19 |
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B_Night | koolhead17: I suppose this is the default behavior on dpkg when update keystone which is kind of anoing as this is my second time trying to fix the keystone db | 11:20 |
koolhead17 | B_Night: once you already have a running keystone with schema & data inside it | 11:20 |
koolhead17 | i don`t think a suer has to manually | 11:20 |
koolhead17 | run it again | 11:21 |
B_Night | i suppose so as well however dpkg run it | 11:21 |
B_Night | Setting up keystone (1:2013.1.2-0ubuntu2~cloud0) ... Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/keystone-manage", line 28, in <module> cli.main(argv=sys.argv, config_files=config_files) | 11:21 |
koolhead17 | B_Night: so you should file a BUG | 11:21 |
koolhead17 | zul: ^^ | 11:21 |
B_Night | I will for suer | 11:21 |
B_Night | the keystone run but when I try to login it gives error | 11:22 |
B_Night | (root): 2013-07-03 14:22:03,260 ERROR (OperationalError) (1054, "Unknown column 'token.user_id' in 'field list'") 'SELECT token.id AS token_id, token.expires AS token_expires, token.extra AS token_extra, token.valid AS token_valid, token.user_id AS token_user_id, token.trust_id AS token_trust_id \nFROM token \nWHERE token.valid = %s AND token.id = %s \n LIMIT %s' (1, '64814d7d4765b6bfc47cabb81fa36974', 1) | 11:22 |
B_Night | and keystone package is reported as broken in dpkg | 11:23 |
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B_Night | koolhead17: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1197367 bug submitted | 11:24 |
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DennisFromGerman | Hello | 11:24 |
koolhead17 | B_Night: cool | 11:24 |
koolhead17 | DennisFromGerman: hi | 11:24 |
DennisFromGerman | Is an openstack expert around? | 11:25 |
koolhead17 | DennisFromGerman: not sure about the level of expertise but can help :) | 11:25 |
DennisFromGerman | Okay... | 11:25 |
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DennisFromGerman | My question | 11:25 |
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DennisFromGerman | is it possible to have multiple nodes with dirfferent system arcitecture under one controller? | 11:26 |
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koolhead17 | i would say yes | 11:26 |
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DennisFromGerman | how do I decided which architecture I want to user | 11:27 |
DennisFromGerman | use? | 11:27 |
koolhead17 | DennisFromGerman: downlaod openstack operators guide it has all your looking for :) | 11:28 |
DennisFromGerman | okay... I will stick to that | 11:28 |
DennisFromGerman | thanks | 11:28 |
koolhead17 | DennisFromGerman: cool | 11:28 |
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mtcld | hello | 11:50 |
mtcld | i have some questions about openstack | 11:51 |
mtcld | let me shoot em all: | 11:51 |
mtcld | for web hosting providers, | 11:51 |
mtcld | moving to openstack is reasonable or not, i would like to figure it out. i didnt get advantages or disadvantages part | 11:52 |
mtcld | for about ~100 servers (dell, fujitsu siemens, rackmount type) | 11:52 |
mtcld | could i create openstack cloud? or i need storage servers like ibm blade or something like that | 11:53 |
mtcld | and openstack is OS, we re using centos for linux servers, so how its gonna be | 11:53 |
mtcld | when we create openstack, this means we could manage all servers from one panel, and we could create virtual servers ? | 11:54 |
mtcld | for now thats my stupid questions. any answer would be nice | 11:55 |
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mtcld | any answer? :) | 11:56 |
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wfoster | mtcld: you could easily setup a nice cluster with that hardware. for centos you should be able to use the RDO repos just fine | 11:57 |
wfoster | mtcld: might want to start here: http://openstack.redhat.com/Quickstart | 11:57 |
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wfoster | mtcld: horizon will let you manage all the VM resources from one pane if you like, (OS dashboard component) | 11:57 |
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mtcld | okay i got it | 11:58 |
mtcld | but didnt figured out advantages of it | 11:58 |
mtcld | what is the big advantage of that | 11:58 |
mtcld | i have servers, running, whats the point of using os and connect em all | 11:58 |
mtcld | managing it easy way ? | 11:58 |
wfoster | are your current servers virtualized? | 11:59 |
mtcld | not all of them | 11:59 |
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wfoster | for the ones already virtualized, it can allow you to switch out the backend virtualization technology if you ever need to (no lock-in), but also use 3rd party cloud providers and generally have more flexibility. a lot might depend on how your application architecture is designed but the general approach of VM's being temporary commodities (easily replaced/spun up/spun down) or resources versus the | 12:01 |
wfoster | traditional permanent server approach many people find useful | 12:01 |
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wfoster | scaling up is generally easier in a design like OS provides, I'd suggest reading a bit more on how others are using it to get better ideas | 12:02 |
wfoster | (I'm new to the project also, so not the best person to talk to right now :) | 12:02 |
B_Night | mtcld: as a web hosting provider myself I could tell you that openstack could make better use of your existing hardware I`m in process of migrating from vmware esxi to OpenStack and kvm | 12:02 |
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mtcld | thanks wfoster, b_night for replies | 12:03 |
mtcld | i think to move openstack but our tech guys not suggest that | 12:03 |
mtcld | they think that thats not necessary for us, for now | 12:03 |
B_Night | but it actually depends what you are running if it`s just cpanel hosting servers on real hardware | 12:03 |
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mtcld | we use cpanel for linux servers (except seo hosting, we use plesk for seo hosting) | 12:04 |
mtcld | and we use plesk for windows hosting | 12:04 |
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mtcld | mostly different servers, like dell r710 | 12:04 |
mtcld | that kind servers | 12:04 |
B_Night | there is not much use of the openstack architecture as it`s to demanding for only a bunch of cpanel servers however if you want to run and sell a lot of VPS servers and want to setup them really really fast OpenStack is the way to go | 12:05 |
B_Night | as you could have a VPS setup and running for something like an hour not sure if you could run a cpanel server like this I know cpanel have a cloud version of there software so maybe it could be done with cpanel ass well | 12:05 |
mtcld | wait a minute, | 12:06 |
mtcld | when i move to openstack, can't i use cpanel standard version | 12:06 |
mtcld | and that was the answer which i need, | 12:06 |
mtcld | we do not sell dedicated servers vps sservers more, for now | 12:07 |
mtcld | but we re working on it, so thats the thing which we need | 12:07 |
mtcld | how about data security, backups etc | 12:07 |
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koolhead17 | chocoboo_: hey there | 12:09 |
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B_Night | mtcld: I suppose after you run new virtual machine with cpanel you could use the standard version on top of OpenStack (which is an set of API`s for control over Infrastructure, network and storage). | 12:12 |
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B_Night | it really give you control over your infrastructure if it`s properly configured and designed which will be hard | 12:13 |
mtcld | Yes, has good advantages | 12:13 |
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mtcld | i am pretty sure that it would be nice for us | 12:13 |
B_Night | I suggest you to start testing with 1-2 servers and then extend your network with new nodes | 12:14 |
mtcld | Yes i will try it | 12:14 |
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mtcld | I hope i dont have problem to manage it | 12:14 |
mtcld | how many domains you manage B_Night | 12:15 |
mtcld | u re selling mostly servers or shared hosting | 12:15 |
mtcld | do you have a time to talk about web hosting and cloud | 12:15 |
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DennisFromGerman | okay | 12:29 |
DennisFromGerman | I have read through the openstack operators guide and the nova admin guide | 12:30 |
DennisFromGerman | but I have found nothing about operating multiple nodes with different System architectures e.g. x86 and arm or Power | 12:31 |
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DennisFromGerman | Has anyone any clue where I could find something about that | 12:32 |
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AeroNotix | hi all, is there a mailing list for OpenStack? | 12:38 |
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jpich | AeroNotix: There are a few - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MailingLists | 12:41 |
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Chocobo | How can I tell which bugs were fixed in 2013.1.2? | 13:21 |
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jpich | Chocobo: https://launchpad.net/openstack/+milestone/2013.1.2 | 13:24 |
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Chocobo | jpich: thanks, I was bombing around on status.openstack.org :P | 13:25 |
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jpich | Chocobo: heh :) I'm sure it's linked from a nicer page somewhere but I can't remember where | 13:26 |
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jpich | Chocobo: Ah, release notes - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/2013.1.2 | 13:28 |
Chocobo | jpich: ahh, thanks. That makes sense. Is there a way to find if a specific bug has made it into a release? namely: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1189059/ | 13:29 |
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jpich | Chocobo: Hmm normally there would be a milestone attached to the bug, that's how the previous list is generated | 13:30 |
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Chocobo | jpich: hrmmm. it says fix commited. I guess I could checkout the source and see? Man, this is a complex development system. It is intimidating wading around in it for the first time. | 13:32 |
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jpich | Chocobo: So you can see it was backported to stable/grizzly on June 12th, which is after the last stable release (according to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StableBranchRelease#Planned_stable.2Fgrizzly_releases that was on June 6th). Usually the release managers are really good at updating the milestone field just before the release, which is probably why it's not done here | 13:33 |
jpich | Chocobo: Agreed re:complexity though :/ | 13:33 |
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Chocobo | jpich: thanks. I will need to talk it over with the group and see if they think it is worth patching manually. Then I will have to tackle allowing users to change their passwords in dashboard! | 13:35 |
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jpich | Chocobo: Ok, glad that helped. That fix should be part of the next stable release on August 8th | 13:37 |
Chocobo | Awesome, thank you. | 13:37 |
jpich | Chocobo: re: the dashboard password change, it has been implemented in Havana if that helps -> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/change-user-passwords | 13:38 |
jpich | you're welcome | 13:38 |
Chocobo | jpich: I saw that... looks like quite a patch set. I am trying to weigh the pros/cons of patching it manually and making a (potentially) less maintainable system. Password hange would be really handy though. | 13:40 |
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Chocobo | Does anyone here have any information on encrypting the novnc viewer in dashboard? I have dashboard working over ssl, but I noticed that the novnc viewer is unencrypted. | 13:43 |
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jpich | Chocobo: It's actually not that large -> https://github.com/openstack/horizon/commit/2a97ce9602408ddae8f4c05a23ef503e0272902c but it had to evolve to take Keystone v3 into account (including new settings that were added in other places during Havana to support both v2 and v3), just something to be careful about | 13:45 |
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Chocobo | jpich: I think that sounds like a can of worms I am not interested in opening :) | 13:51 |
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jpich | Chocobo: Fair enough, yep:) | 13:52 |
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DennisFromGerman | +i | 14:07 |
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Chocobo | I read the post on "the best place to run quantum-ovs-cleanup" Does the same hold true for quantum-netns-cleanup? | 14:15 |
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sas | hi guys, I have query. Hope this is the right platform, if not just ignore. I tried creating a image, & installed it with RHEL6.4 and clean mac & ip info, and uploaded image to glance, when I tried to create instance with this image, I see the boot menu, but after that I see a blank screen | 14:59 |
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sas | any suggestions ^^ | 14:59 |
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eglynn | iccha: back now | 15:01 |
iccha | eglynn: i had a question about context_is_admin patch you had done for glance | 15:02 |
eglynn | iccha: shoot | 15:02 |
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iccha | eglynn: what happens when we have admin_role config and context_is_admin policy | 15:03 |
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eglynn | iccha: IIRC a match on either is accepted | 15:05 |
* eglynn checking ... | 15:05 | |
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eglynn | iccha: yep, see the new test cases in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/28048/3/glance/tests/unit/test_policy.py for a summary of the behaviour | 15:06 |
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iccha | eglynn:does context_is_admin: "role:admin" become a default rule? | 15:07 |
eglynn | iccha: context_is_admin: "role:admin" is only checked if the request is not already considered admin by the traditional means | 15:07 |
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iccha | eglynn: say if the context has user has normal user, and context_is_admin is not defined | 15:09 |
iccha | and if the role in the config admin is invalid | 15:09 |
eglynn | iccha: oh, I see what you mean now | 15:09 |
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FatDarrel | hello i need some help? | 15:09 |
eglynn | iccha: so in the case where context_is_admin is totally missing from the policy.json | 15:10 |
FatDarrel | Does anyone have a multimode openstack cluster? | 15:10 |
eglynn | iccha: that case is explained in the commit message | 15:10 |
eglynn | iccha: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/28048/3//COMMIT_MSG | 15:10 |
iccha | eglynn: ya every request takes admin | 15:10 |
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iccha | eglynn: thanks for talking through this with me | 15:11 |
eglynn | iccha: yep, so context_is_admin really is required in the RBAC config as explained in the commit msg | 15:11 |
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eglynn | iccha: no probs! | 15:11 |
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Neandre | Hi everyone, I'm trying to deploy Openstack with LXC. When I spawn a container, I obtain this error : http://paste.kde.org/788312/ on Nova Compute. Someone has an idea? | 15:21 |
Neandre | Debian Wheezy and Grizzly | 15:22 |
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mfer | mordred: pm? | 15:26 |
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FatDarrel | does anyone have a multimode openstack cluster I want someone to try running a little grep/awk script for me | 15:27 |
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SemmZemm | Hi, I see 2 identic hypervisors when I call nova hypervisor-list | 15:46 |
SemmZemm | is it normal? | 15:46 |
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SemmZemm | I have only one compute server | 15:47 |
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FatDarrel | hey can some one run this and see what they get | 15:50 |
FatDarrel | nova hypervisor-list | awk '{print $4}'| grep -v Hypervisor | 15:51 |
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SemmZemm | myriads-serv1.myriads.irisa.fr | 15:53 |
SemmZemm | myriads-serv1.myriads.irisa.fr | 15:53 |
SemmZemm | I have two of them, I don't know why | 15:53 |
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SemmZemm | it was to you FatDarrel | 15:54 |
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Chocobo | Does anyone know of a good preconfigured CentOS 6.4 images? | 17:29 |
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mhillsman | does anyone know the default username and password for trystack | 17:37 |
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amber_nic | !ping | 17:53 |
openstack | pong | 17:53 |
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mongo2 | hrm, is there any reason the baremetal project isn't just chain booting ipxe that would query the metadata service for an image location? | 17:57 |
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Chocobo | Man, it is quiet in here today. | 18:07 |
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lorin1 | Chocobo: I don't know of ready-made CentOS 6.4 images, but you can roll your own with these scripts: https://github.com/jtopjian/image-recipes | 18:13 |
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Chocobo | lorin1: thanks | 18:13 |
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Chocobo | lol.. i haven't updated my system in 47 days... 725 packages to update :O | 18:27 |
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teknopagan | Hi, folks - trying to set up a test Swift box, but having some issues with the early running | 18:37 |
notmyname | teknopagan: what issues? | 18:38 |
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teknopagan | This isn't technically an openstack issue, but I'm hoping someone has seen this before and can help | 18:38 |
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teknopagan | I'm setting up with the Swiftstack tutorial using virtualbox, with the modification of attempting to give the vm raw disk access | 18:39 |
notmyname | teknopagan: ok | 18:39 |
teknopagan | The vmdk I'm generating to access a 2TB drive is claiming to be 16384PB | 18:40 |
notmyname | teknopagan: cool! ;-) | 18:40 |
teknopagan | No idea where I'm going wrong - following the virtualbox instructions to the letter, that's what I get | 18:40 |
teknopagan | LOL, notmyname - would be awesome if I actually got that kind of space | 18:41 |
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teknopagan | Anyway, that disk won't mount. I'm guessing whatever is causing the incorrect size is related. | 18:42 |
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notmyname | teknopagan: you're creating virtual drives to mount in the VM (rather than loopback devices)? | 18:43 |
teknopagan | The command I used to create the raw disk access vmdk was: VBoxManage internalcommands createrawvmdk -filename sdb.vmdk -rawdisk /dev/sdb | 18:43 |
teknopagan | Right - that's what the documentation says to do | 18:43 |
teknopagan | per: http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#rawdisk | 18:44 |
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teknopagan | How would I do loopback devices in virtualbox? | 18:45 |
notmyname | teknopagan: there's nothing special for loopback devices. it's all internal to the VM | 18:45 |
teknopagan | What I'm trying to do is give the vm direct access to a physical disk | 18:46 |
notmyname | teknopagan: I'm not familiar with the VBoxManage commands. normally, I'd create drives with the VirtualBox GUI | 18:46 |
notmyname | teknopagan: "physical disk" as in a block device on your host machine? | 18:46 |
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teknopagan | unpartitioned, not mounted on the host, naked disk drive | 18:46 |
teknopagan | physically attached to the host, though, yes | 18:47 |
teknopagan | For some reason I have it in my head that it's better to give it direct access to the bare drive than to give it direct access to a partition - am I wrong? | 18:47 |
notmyname | teknopagan: Ithe person I think who could give you the right answer just stepped into a meeting, but if you want to move over to #swiftstack, we could make sure you get the answer | 18:48 |
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jharley | hey, I'm new to Quantum and am having an issue understanding provider networks and interfacing them with Quantum. I'd like to have Quantum bridge onto an existing layer 2 network and allow DHCP leases to and connectivity from that network.. is this possible, or does Quantum not like this model? | 19:07 |
monst | anyone gotten solaris11 guest working? | 19:07 |
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Apsu | jharley: Can do it fine. You'd just disable dhcp on the subnet you make in the network VMs are plugging into. And configure the OVS agent for the appropriate provider name:bridge mapping | 19:12 |
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jharley | Apsu: perhaps foolishly, I setup the linuxbridging agent instead | 19:13 |
jharley | Apsu: it seems that Quantum is making iptables rules based on an address it's choosing on the segment? | 19:13 |
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Apsu | jharley: When using the Quantum firewall driver, yes. To implement security groups and anti-spoofing. | 19:15 |
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jharley | Apsu: Ah, I see. So I should disable the firewall driver and things should make more sense? | 19:15 |
Chocobo | Does anyone know if it is possible to change how multiple vcpu work? I would like to add multiple cores, not just multiple sockets. | 19:15 |
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Apsu | jharley: Er, sure, if you don't want security groups. But you very likely do :P | 19:17 |
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jharley | Apsu: I would like that, yea ;).. but if DHCP is already running on that provider segment, how do I get Quantum to work with the firewall driver? | 19:17 |
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Apsu | jharley: ah I see what you're asking. Well, that depends on whether or not nova/quantum will still attempt to assign you an IP whether your subnet facilitates the DHCP or not. | 19:18 |
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jharley | Apsu: even if DHCP doesn't exist on that segment, I'm confused how I would statically assign an IP to a VM and have the Quantum firewall driver be involved? | 19:19 |
jharley | Apsu: better stated, I guess: can I have something outside Quantum/nova assign address (static or DHCP from the provider segment) and have the firewall driver work properly | 19:20 |
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Apsu | jharley: Using nova boot, you can actually request a specific IP from a quantum subnet. | 19:20 |
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Apsu | jharley: I imagine in this scenario, you would nova boot that way, from a network/subnet without DHCP on | 19:20 |
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Apsu | Then you'd get the correct security group rules, but the assignment of said IP would be via broadcasting over the provider bridge. | 19:21 |
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jharley | Apsu: cool. and in the case of the provider segment handling DHCP? | 19:21 |
Apsu | I might give it a try in a bit. But that's my theory :) | 19:21 |
Apsu | Well, then you'd need to make sure there's not another DHCP server somewhere on the same segment | 19:21 |
Apsu | Or they'd race | 19:21 |
Apsu | You'd get *an* IP, but who from is unpredictable. | 19:22 |
Apsu | And could change on renews :P | 19:22 |
jharley | Apsu: I get that part, for sure | 19:22 |
liquid-silence | btw guys, found the issue with my vm's not able to download from the internet, but would work via scp | 19:24 |
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liquid-silence | its was the mtu on the dhcp agent | 19:24 |
liquid-silence | had to add some values in | 19:25 |
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liquid-silence | now it works 100% | 19:25 |
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liquid-silence | I am feeling more comfortable with openstack now | 19:25 |
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Apsu | liquid-silence: MTU adjustment? Shouldn't really be required... unless you're blocking ICMP everywhere, so pMTUd can't work. | 19:26 |
Apsu | liquid-silence: Care to elaborate? | 19:26 |
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liquid-silence | dhcp-option=26,1454 | 19:26 |
jharley | Apsu: but, in the scenario that DHCP is running on the provider segment.. can anything be done to have things work with the firewall driver? | 19:26 |
liquid-silence | in /etc/quantum/dnsmasq.conf | 19:26 |
liquid-silence | before doing that | 19:27 |
liquid-silence | I could not wget an ubuntu iso from the same network | 19:27 |
mongo2 | jharley: no, it would be nice if they would dhcp relay | 19:27 |
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Apsu | jharley: Yes. What I just suggested should work. nova boot'ing a network with !DHCP subnets and requesting a specific fixed IP, and making sure the external DHCP server has that lease. | 19:27 |
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mongo2 | IIRC, that only works iwth nova-network not with quantum at the moment, looking for the link | 19:29 |
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jharley | mongo2: thanks! | 19:31 |
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jharley | Apsu: understood. Thanks for walking me through it. I was just hopeful that I could somehow relay DHCP leases from an existing subnet :) | 19:32 |
Apsu | jharley: Yar. Good luck! | 19:32 |
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Chocobo | Is there any way to have quantum automaticall heal if a node goes down (assuming you have multiple nodes in active/active configuration)? | 19:37 |
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mongo2 | jharley: you can "reserve" a block in an existing subnet and only allow dnsmasq to hand out from that range | 19:38 |
Chocobo | namely l3-agent and dhcp-agent.... | 19:38 |
mongo2 | or just use nova-network flat | 19:38 |
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mongo2 | http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-network/admin/content/demo_flat_installions.html | 19:39 |
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jharley | mongo2: I've been looking at nova-network given the fact that Quantum/Neutron is still not quite at feature parity (please correct me if I'm wrong) | 19:40 |
mongo2 | jharley: depends on what you count as "features" | 19:40 |
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mongo2 | they made some design decisions that make relaying DHCP to an external segment hard, I wish I wasn't too busy working because it seems it would be fairly easy to just add dhcp relay functionality to dnsmasq | 19:41 |
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Chocobo | liquid-silence: did you ever figure out your slow network problem? | 19:43 |
mongo2 | then the ovs/fw/nova could still track the IPs | 19:43 |
Apsu | jharley: You could probably setup your own relaying in a custom dnsmasq.conf | 19:43 |
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liquid-silence | Chocobo dhcp mtu | 19:44 |
jharley | mongo2: or write a plugin that used dhcp-helper instead of dns-masq? | 19:44 |
mongo2 | or dhcrelay..yes | 19:45 |
jharley | Apsu: I'm trying to figure out if dnsmasq supports it? I don't think it does from my ~2 min of googling | 19:46 |
mongo2 | if I find the time I will write one, if someone doesn't get to it first | 19:46 |
Apsu | Chocobo: The dhcp-agent already "self-heals" with multiple agents hosting a given quantum network. The l3-agent does not, because it doesn't work that way. Any given qrouter is only scheduled to one l3-agent at a time. | 19:46 |
mongo2 | it would fix the SPF issue with the current realy too | 19:46 |
Apsu | Chocobo: But you can monitor and manually failover yourself. | 19:46 |
liquid-silence | btw guys this is the most activity I have seen in a few days here | 19:46 |
liquid-silence | I was hoping to demo openstack at a conference here in south africa | 19:47 |
liquid-silence | who can I speak to? | 19:47 |
jharley | liquid-silence: the newbie showed up (Hi!) ;) | 19:47 |
liquid-silence | jharley hey | 19:47 |
Chocobo | Apsu: ahh, I did not know I could attach multiple networks to a single dhcp-agent. That is good to know. I was having a problem when rebooting the node with the dhcp agent the vm would lose it's ip and require a reboot. | 19:48 |
Apsu | Chocobo: You can; all agents' dnsmasq processes get all leases in common between all connected/DHCP-managed networks. | 19:49 |
Apsu | Chocobo: l3-agents are entirely different, and HA is hard. | 19:49 |
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Chocobo | Apsu: so I have found :P Hopefully we will only bringing a node down for service... we can jump l3-agents then. | 19:50 |
mongo2 | Apsu: yes, that is why I want to get to the point of just using ISC's dhcp, it does the HA | 19:51 |
Apsu | mongo2: That's not really related to l3 though. I'm decently satisfied with the dhcp-agent's HA at present. | 19:51 |
mongo2 | ya, I don't need l3 for anything really, diff use case | 19:52 |
Chocobo | Apsu: Do you know if there is a way to get dashboard to add a new network with DHCP to every dhcp-agent? I can do it manually, but it will be pain every time someone creates a new subnet with dhcp enabled. | 19:52 |
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Chocobo | man that is SLICK!!! I love the multiple dhcp-agents per network. That makes me happpppy. | 20:00 |
Chocobo | I want to change my internal network IPs. That does not make me happy. | 20:00 |
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mongo2 | Chocobo: yes the dnsmasq/float works well for a service provider, less well for a "private cloud" | 20:02 |
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mongo2 | nova-network multi support may be what you want, not quite there in neutron yet | 20:02 |
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mongo2 | although quantum/linux bridge may work too, I am using OVS | 20:03 |
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Chocobo | mongo2: I am fine with moving with moving l3 agent's manually. What I have now is MUCH better than the "all-in-one" essex cloud we are running... man, when I have to reboot that thing a third of my remaining hair falls out :P | 20:04 |
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mongo2 | Chocobo: except for devit I sayed on bare libvirt because of that :) lbaas will be a "killer" app for me though for devops | 20:06 |
Chocobo | mongo2: Yeah, Havana is looking pretty nice. | 20:07 |
Chocobo | Hey now there are some people kicking around in here: Does anyone know if it is possible to change how instances with multiple VCPUs are launched? Currently it creates multiple sockets for each VCPU. When launching some VMs (Windows) it is much more beneficial to us multiple cores. | 20:11 |
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mongo2 | Chocobo: IIRC, you need to make that change at the libvirt level, you can set a custom CPU def and pass that | 20:15 |
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b1tbkt | mikedawson: if i do | 20:22 |
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b1tbkt | mikedawson: if i do 'virsh secret-dumpxml' the usage type is set to 'ceph'. not sure why I'm getting the discrepancy and documentation is sparse for the usage feature. | 20:23 |
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mongo2 | b1tbkt "Unused" is normal | 20:26 |
mikedawson | b1tbkt: actually, I spoke too soon. It should say Unused. do a 'virsh secret-get-value <uuid>' and confirm the key matches your ceph keyring | 20:27 |
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mongo2 | and double check the uuid set fore bd_secret_uuid in nova.conf on the compute node | 20:29 |
b1tbkt | yep. the key matches. ceph/rbd all work fine on their own. When launching a vm through nova, no disk shows up in the libvirt xml even though one is defined in nova. | 20:29 |
mongo2 | err rbd_secret_uuid | 20:29 |
b1tbkt | this all works with filesystem-based disk but trying to convert to rbd | 20:29 |
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mongo2 | b1tbkt: you have rbd_user set in the compuete node's nova.conf too? | 20:30 |
b1tbkt | mongo2: yeah, I got that...the correct key is associated with the UUID which itself is identical across all compute nodes | 20:30 |
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mongo2 | the UUID is unique to each compute node | 20:32 |
mongo2 | you need to add in the secret per node and add the local secret UUID to the local nova.conf | 20:32 |
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b1tbkt | the secret's uuid is unique across all nodes? that would mean manual configuration of nova.conf for every node. | 20:34 |
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mongo2 | yep | 20:34 |
b1tbkt | i have rbd_pool, rbd_users, rbd_secret_uuid set in nova.conf on all compute nodes | 20:35 |
b1tbkt | rbd_user | 20:35 |
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b1tbkt | I'm willing to trying a truly unique UUID...worth a shot... | 20:35 |
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mongo2 | It is, libvirt generates that UUID | 20:36 |
b1tbkt | yep | 20:37 |
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b1tbkt | I'd been forcing it though because I'd thought I'd seen others do it to avoid a zillion unique config files in their environment | 20:37 |
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mongo2 | b1tbkt: well you could set the uuid, your type is "ceph" though right? | 20:43 |
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Chocobo | When changing my internal ip... do I need to dump the openvswitch conf.db and recreate all my bridges? | 20:44 |
linuxmohan | hiii | 20:45 |
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mongo2 | Chocobo: no, IP is seporate from OVS config, you may need to restart the plugin | 20:46 |
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Chocobo | mongo2: ok, thanks... I see a lot of references to it in the conf.db, that is why I asked. | 20:48 |
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mikedawson | b1tbkt: you can force each compute node to the same uuid. That will work | 20:49 |
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b1tbkt | just tried with unique uuid, no difference. | 21:06 |
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b1tbkt | type is set to ceph as verified by virsh secret-dumpxml | 21:06 |
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b1tbkt | what's the best/simplest way to test that a libvirt secret is working for ceph communication? | 21:14 |
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b1tbkt | i think apparmor is causing me grief here. | 21:23 |
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click | please sombody explain /srv/node thing is it predefined path ????? ! | 22:14 |
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bgmccollum | you create it. its used by convention. | 22:24 |
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mpae | hello | 22:46 |
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mpae | for some reason quantum api is failing to provide a response to nova-compute for a network that exists, and thus failing to provision an instance | 22:47 |
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mpae | I've tried enabling verbose debug in quantum server and can't really tell what's going on | 22:48 |
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mpae | any ideas would be appreciated | 22:49 |
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