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Anju  afazekas:ping04:14
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kallisti5anyone know a how to get network metadata to cloud-init with nova-network Flat?04:47
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kallisti5have a subnet shared with other users. I do want nova to manage a small subset of IP addresses, however I also want nova to get the info into the VM in a clean way04:48
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kallisti5the injection doesn't work for me on SUSE machines04:48
kallisti5(I get python errors and infinite spawning when it is true)04:48
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sigurdinggood morning guys. I have one question: will there be a monitoring support for performance metrics build-in in one of the upcoming versions?07:16
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kraljevwhy is this channel so inactive?08:23
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sigurding:)08:24
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itarchitectkevkraljev, it gets more active when daylight hits the other side of the atlantic and the americas wake up… most people just lurk on here - but support is hit or miss on irc [depending on timezone] - the mailing list is better imho.08:32
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kraljevmy question has been left unanswered for quite few days now: https://answers.launchpad.net/horizon/+question/23258108:33
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jpichkraljev: Questions are usually on ask.openstack.org nowadays. For that particular one, at this point it's not possible to log into Horizon only using the admin token08:35
kraljevso you gotta know the user's passowrd?08:36
kraljevSo, it is not possible to get user's password with the admin token?08:36
kraljevguess it's hashed08:37
jpichkraljev: You can change it when logged in as admin or the user but you can't see it08:37
kraljevso, I guess I could change it each time I have to log in the user08:38
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kraljevJust this question: Is it possible to change user's password via HTTP API08:40
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jpichkraljev: I can't imagine that would make the user particularly happy, though we don't have a complete impersonation API in keystone that I know of at the moment. Can't you do what you need to using the admin login?08:40
kraljevwe are making simpleSAML service integration08:41
jpichkraljev: It can be done using the client so there should be a REST API to do it, yes08:41
kraljevso user's don't really care about their real password, they only ever log in via the idP08:41
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kraljevkeystone user-password-update --pass '123456' <user-id>08:41
kraljevthis is the CLI08:41
kraljevi have not found the way to do it via REST api08:42
kraljevthanks for your help, I appreciate it really much08:42
kraljevseing how many questinons are left unanswered08:43
kraljevbut, if you maybe know it of the top of your head08:43
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jpichkraljev: If you add the --debug flag after 'keystone' it'll show you the curl commands used to perform the action08:44
kraljevthat is amazing! :)08:44
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jpichkraljev: Glad this helps!08:46
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sharryHello everyone... can anyone guide me procedure fr launching an instance of a successfully registered image... I can launch an instance of cirros image but not of any other type of image...08:47
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kraljevI must say I love the loose-coupling architecture of openstack08:50
kraljevso amazing08:50
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javajunkyhi all, I'm trying to setup something along the lines of http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-network/admin/content/demo_flat_installions.html in neutron rather than quantum, is this still possible ?09:09
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jpichjavajunky: neutron is quantum, renamed, so yes it should be possible :)09:11
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javajunkyit doesn't *appear* to take the same arguments, so potentially the question maybe, grizzly vs havana !09:12
javajunkyjpich: looks like the previous link was wrong, incidentally: should've been, http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-network/admin/content/demo_flat_logical_network_config.html09:13
jpichjavajunky: I'm not familiar enough with quantum/neutron to know if/which arguments have changed between grizzly and havana unfortunately, sorry09:14
javajunkyjpich: np :)09:14
sigurdinganyone using the Java API for Openstack Compute Stack?09:16
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ehaselwanterhi there. were is a good place to ask for neutron gre ovs advice?13:46
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m0zeshello, all. I am looking to setup keystone with an ldap backend. I need to filter users based on group membership, in this case a non-rfc2307 posixGroup. This means that memberOf doesn't show up, and that the memberUid in the group is not a dn. any thoughts on how to accomplish this?13:56
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FecnI don't know the answers... but I'm watching with great interest as we've been mulling over the idea of putting keystone on ldap13:58
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larsksm0zes: What's your LDAP server? And do you control it or is it managed by someone else?14:14
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m0zeslarsks: openldap, and I do control it.14:15
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larsksm0zes: Spiffy.  No solutions for you, but thinking.  For what it's worth, what we did locally was instead of pointing keystone at LDAP, we wrote a very small webapp that would authenticate against our AD server and automatically generate a keystone account. This let us put some business logic into the initial authentication process (setting up tenants and default quotas and so forth).14:17
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hackooSuggest me some guide which I can pass to the OpenStack beginners. They have knowledge of cloud computing and vCloud but they want to get started with OpenStack.14:22
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larsksm0zes: What about just periodically running a script (via cron, etc) that polls ldap for the members of the given group and then updates a per-user attribute you can use for filtering?15:11
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larsks...you'd probably have to perform the corresponding task of removing the attribute from people no longer in the posixGroup.15:12
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b1tbktis moving an instance between tenants a dark art or is there a mechanism for doing so?15:13
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timppaHi! Is it possible to use public ip addresses from DHCP on VM's?15:14
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m0zeslarsks: that may be what I do, but in a more controlled way. I am looking at the user_enabled_emulation in the configuration, and I think I'll have something that updates the membership of that groupOfNames.15:15
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crazedso i just upgraded from folsom to rdo grizzly, my horizon dashboard doesn't seem to let me switch between projects anymore15:17
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b1tbktcrazed: I went through the folsom->grizzly experience. the easiest way I found to set most things straight is to edit/save everything that you can within horizon. no need to modify anything, the save just causes all db fields to be properly populated.15:19
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b1tbktin your case, edit/save all users15:20
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jpichcrazed: the python-django-openstack-auth version should be at least 1.0.6, you might want to check this15:21
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b1tbktalso, logging out and back into horizon is key to realizing some of the database changes that affect interface permissions15:21
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crazedinteresting15:25
crazedmost things work but yeah thanks for the tips15:26
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b1tbktcrazed: as a quick example...IIRC..go look at the ID's for flavors inside the Admin section. Edit one and save it. Mine went from simple integers to UUID's after saving.15:29
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crazedanyone ever see their openvswitch interface (ex: tap90a7568c-10) be marked as down and even an ip link set tap90a7568c-10 up doesn't seem to restore network connectivity on an interface?15:32
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crazedin the past i've fixed this by terminating the instance/bringing it up15:32
crazedany other way of handling it?15:32
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b1tbktcrazed: I had the happen just last week. Out of curiosity, are you able to successfully create a port in horizon?15:43
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oarmstrongHow would one go about using the API to associate a floating IP with a server? Doesn't seem to be a method that replicates the behavious of th15:45
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oarmstrong*behaviour of the 'Associate IP' button on the web interface15:45
crazedb1tbkt: i haven't tried, but i am able to boot a new instance15:45
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b1tbktthe reason I ask is that the down port, in my case, was a port that I'd created from the cli. I had been unable to create them in horiozn (failed w/ error). I found that there was some permission issue, even with the right credentials, from the cli. Sooo...15:46
b1tbktI went to troubleshooting through horizon. There's a bug in the current release of ubuntu's horizon package. Once I applied that patch. Horizon was able to create the port properly.15:47
b1tbktstill not sure why it's failling from cli but I'm not complaining at the moment15:48
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ehaselwanterever seen this in a VM: scp is fast (approx 800KB/s) but HTTP is slow (approx 40 KB/s)15:52
ehaselwanterduring download (vm in OpenStack Grizzly with OVS and GRE15:53
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crazedb1tbkt: ever run across TUNSETIFF: Device or resource busy15:57
crazedseems to be related to my network problems15:57
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b1tbktnot specifically16:16
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b1tbktone other post-upgrade thing to check though...the easiest way is through horizon...are your routers showing up within their respective tenants? mine were not after the upgrade. they were still associated with the service tenant. the skies were dark and ominous until I straightened that out.16:18
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lindenleCan someone tel me what the best way to get started with openstack for an R&D project backed by VCenter is?16:35
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lindenleI would like to quickly get up an instance to see how well they play together. I tried devstack but nothing from my venter seemed to whow up in the openstack guy.16:35
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gchenghi, is the DNS project 'dynamic-dns' abandoned?16:43
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Siliconsoulhey16:50
Siliconsouli am trying to install glance according to the online mabual16:50
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Siliconsoulthe service seems to crash whenever i use glance16:51
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Siliconsouleverything works if i launce glance-api manually though16:51
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wrklhi, I'm having a problem I haven't been able to solve, whenever I try to boot an instance, it get stuck in the BUILD state, nova-compute.log tells me  ComputeHostNotFound: Compute host hostname_of_nova_node could not be found.17:09
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wrklwhat might be the reason for that?17:09
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Apsuwrkl: Does your compute node have a hostname set? What does "hostname" on the compute node say? Maybe paste/link the contents of /etc/hosts17:21
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wrklyep, it's the same as the one it complains about, hosts looks right, both FQDN and short for the same ip17:22
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Apsuwrkl: What about trying to talk to said host from the controller? Same IP? Does the short/FQDN resolve?17:23
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wrklit's the same machine, so it resolves + I have the machine in DNS17:24
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wrklApsu: any idea? :-)17:41
Apsuwrkl: What's "nova service-list" show?17:42
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wrklnova-cert, nova-conductor, nova-consoleauth, nova-scheduler and four nova-compute, of which only one is up17:44
Apsuwrkl: Presumably not the one you want/that's having trouble17:45
wrklthey are all on the same ost17:45
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wrklApsu: I removed the services from nova db, but now I get "ServiceNotFound: Service 16 could not be found.", which is in the database18:09
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luisgmarkmc, qq, i checked out oslo-incubator and was trying to run its tests, but i keep getting a bunch of errors from test_zmq, are those expected or am i probably missing some config?18:16
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goyfercan i use the openstack meta data service to run scripts on instance instantiation?19:02
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daveopsgoyfer: yes, with cloud-init19:06
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goyferdaveops: i see with --user-data is that what you are referring to?19:07
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daveopsyes, cloud-init can leverage that user data to run scripts on instance boot19:08
daveopshttp://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/user-data.html19:08
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goyferhmm, that is all through the --user-data option and not the --meta, correct?19:11
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crobertsrhQuestion:  I've changed my OPENSTACK_HOST value in horizon/openstack_dashboard/local, but when I restart horizon, it still appears to be trying to hit the old host rather than the new host.  Is there a cache somewhere that I must also clear out?  Thanks.19:13
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teknoprephi al19:15
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teknoprepi have a question about Swift and how it manages data... if i have 40 SSD's ... 120GB Each across 40 Servers... can one virtual machine running inside openstack have a Virtual Hard Drive larger than 120GB ?19:15
teknoprepdoes the data span accross the hdd's connected over the network ?19:15
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notmynameteknoprep: I think that's a question for cinder, not swift19:16
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teknoprepoh19:16
teknoprepwell does cinder do this ?19:16
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notmynameteknoprep: I do not know. swift does not (in the same way that it also does not iron your clothes)19:17
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m0zesfor keystone, how do I specify admin users with the ldap backend? I feel that I saw it earlier, but I can't seem to find it now.19:23
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Ryan_Lanem0zes: you make an admin role and in any tenant you add a user into that role19:23
Ryan_Lanethen the user is a global admin19:24
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Ryan_Laneif you're letting people manage their roles, that should probably terrify you into ensuring the admin role is blocked or restricted ;)19:24
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m0zesRyan_Lane: thanks, that makes sense. I have forgotten most of what I knew with my first openstack install.19:25
Ryan_Laneit's also possible to use an admin token, but from what I can tell it's not terribly well supported19:26
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crazedhow does the cinder nfs driver mount your share to a compute node? i can't find any logs on teh compute nodes or the cinder node about what could be wrong. it is able to mount on my volume server19:46
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crazedonly thing i'm seeing is "<mount> is already mounted"19:57
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moj0risingCan someone confirm for me: Are running images stored on the compute nodes or on the storage node?20:13
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fm255005I guessing having "External Gateway" status "Down" is not good...20:24
fm255005the Admin state is "Up"20:24
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kallisti5question: what alternatives are there to the fixed network injection? I think the cloud-init and ec2 stuff can assign addresses to virtual machines... but I can't seem to find any solid docs on it20:25
kallisti5(running a flat (non-dhcp) network with nova-network) Openstack assigns a free IP ok... but the vm doesn't pick it up at the moment.20:26
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kallisti5if I manually configure the assinged IP, things start working... so that seems ok20:26
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FecnIs it OK to have /var/lib/nova/instances/_base on a shared filesystem (to enable live migration)... I think I'm seeing an issue which happens when only when attempting to spin up multiple identical VMs across multiple nodes for the first time after a new image is used20:33
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FecnI think that each compute service attempts to pull the same image from glance and they all attempt to write it out as the same name at the same time20:34
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Fecnsome of them are getting permission denied... and nova-compute seems to lock up20:35
Fecnat least.. I think that's what's going on20:35
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goyferI've been creating and deleting many images with glance. now I'm getting 'Image storage media is full:' i go into mysql database and  I see all my deleted images. why aren't they being automatically deleted. Must I manually enter my database and remove these entries from my images table?20:36
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kallisti5Fecn: not sure.. those are unique per image, not sure openstack expects them to be shared20:38
kallisti5Fecn: (good idea though)20:38
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kallisti5Fecn: how I understand it, nova gets the base image from glance and caches it there20:39
Fecnkallisti5: It is a real corner case of a problem... it only happens after we upload a new image/snapshot.. and it only happens if we spin up +3 VMs from that image simultanousely20:39
kallisti5eh.. that isn't that much of a corner case :)20:39
FecnIf we upload an image, and spin up a single instance, it will then happily span multiple instances20:40
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FecnI'm not totally sure that glance is to blame20:40
FecnI've been playing around with all manner of different filesystems for instance storage... NFS, MooseFS, OCFS2(currently)20:40
Fecnthere might be some filesystem issue going on instead20:40
kallisti5personally i'd just use nfs... then again i'm a little old schoold :)20:41
kallisti5*school20:41
FecnRight now I'm using OCFS2 on top of a Rados block device.... I have 3 compute nodes, which are also ceph object stores...20:42
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kallisti5I think ocfs  is too complex... the more complex the filesystem layer is, the more chances of it breaking in a way that can't be fixed20:42
FecnIt is an accident waiting to happen :D20:42
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FecnIt has been however prooving surprisingly robust... (aside from the glance issue)20:42
FecnIt is only a play environment though20:43
kallisti5you would be suprised how a lot of people use multipath for the root disk image, then can't fathom why it is so hard to fix... we did this for reliability!... if it takes 4 people to set it up over a week... one guy isn't going to be able to fix it at 3am20:43
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FecnEvery time you add redundancy, you increase the likelihood of operator error20:44
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FecnIf the hardware doesn't go wrong, the sysadmin will20:44
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kallisti5Fecn: was nfs giving you throughput issues?20:44
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FecnNope... NFS was giving me lack of servers issues... I only had 4 boxes to play with20:45
kallisti5aah. ok :P20:45
Fecnand a single 1Gbit interface on each box20:45
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FecnThey are ridicuously overspecced servers though...144Gb ram, 8 cores @ 2.07Ghz, 16x300GB disks20:45
Fecnhence they have become combined storage and compute nodes20:46
kallisti5 lucky!20:46
Fecnwith one machine doing all the API layer stuff, quantum, horizon etc20:46
FecnThe fun will start soon20:46
kallisti5i have three core 2 duo's connected by a gigabit switch (private) and 100mbit public20:46
Fecnwe've got 150 brand spanking new machines sitting in the loading bay now20:46
kallisti5nice!20:46
Fecnin a month or two, I'll get to deploy large-scale across two datacentres20:46
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kallisti5Fecn: you doing vlans with quantium?20:47
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FecnOnly with openvswitch20:47
Fecnwe haven't had the chance to look into getting openstack to control real switches20:47
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kallisti5I never got the openvswitch thing working20:48
FecnI did today however get the network guys to agree that we could control our own switches20:48
Fecnopenvswitch has been great20:48
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Fecn(particularly given my single 1gbit interface issue)20:48
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kallisti5do you know if openvswitch could be used on a shared network?20:49
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FecnIt can20:49
FecnI am using it on one20:49
kallisti5aka.. i have a /24 with other servers..20:49
kallisti5hm..  maybe I should stop messing with nova flat networking20:49
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FecnIt is basically a bunch of linux bridges (such as libvirt uses to put a VM on the net) connected together with GRE tunnels20:49
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FecnSo.. my real network is 192.168.254.0/24... and my servers are .57, .58, .59 and .60 .... And I have a pool of floating IPs from .128-.19120:51
FecnMy VMs all live on 10.x.x.x nets which are totally interal to openvswitch20:51
kallisti5my issue is i'm using it for a small lab network (~15) but I need them live on the subnet so engineers to reach them20:51
Fecnopenvswitch creates tunnels from the 192.168.254.x addresses to each other20:51
Fecnfor VMs which should be accessible, I drop a floating IP on them20:51
kallisti5thus the nat stuff doesn't work well20:51
kallisti5oh20:51
FecnNAT stuff has worked well for me20:51
kallisti5i see.. so they get a nat ip.. then you add the live ip via float?20:52
FecnQuantum lets you create routers between the internal subnets too20:52
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kallisti5durp.. that makes sense...  why didn't I see that?20:52
FecnThat's right... every VM on a NAT/private... floatingip on the ones that need to be public20:52
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kallisti5sigh.. i've been overthinking this it seems :)20:52
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kallisti5that explains why cloud-init isn't working... the host needs a route to the vm's before cloud-init can set up the networks20:53
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kallisti5i just kept thinking I was missing some metadata service that magically worked over partitions or something :D20:54
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caovchi does anybody got a good pointer to running nova instance storage on top of an SSD accelerated glusterfs storage?21:07
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caovci.e. ssds in each compute node with glusterfs being the backend for the instance storage to support live migration21:08
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ErastFandorinHello All - A question on openstack-nova-compute. I see that glance is picking the localhost as the server IP (glance_api_server) despite a different value specified in nova.conf21:16
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ErastFandorinhow can i over-ride the default value (my_ip) set in the glance.py file as part of the CONF?21:16
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ErastFandorinhello all, i have a question on openstack-nova-compute on how to override the values set in the .py files using the .conf file21:21
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goyferhow do i access the --meta data i provide my instance? i do curl http://169.254.169.254/latest/meta-data/ but this only gives predefined data21:42
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kallisti5fecn: does adding a floating ip result in an additional network card being added for you?21:50
kallisti5(to the vm)21:50
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lindenleHi all, I have grizzly installed and want to plug it into venter at the backend. I have changed the compute_driver but I am not seeing anything in the horizon ui about my vas or hypervisors. Can someone help me out?23:02
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