Wednesday, 2013-08-07

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rapaulhttp://www.trystack.org/ has some expiry mechanism for instances (e.g. your VM is purged after 24 hours). http://www.crn.com/news/cloud/231900238/openstack-prepping-free-testing-development-cloud.htm mentioned something about OpenStack modules that do this expiry. Are these modules generally available? I'm looking to promote short-lived automatically expiring VMs in the company I work for.01:13
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rapaulI imagine building something using the Nova APIs wouldn't be hard, simply trying to avoid reinventing the wheel01:16
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BlackFXAny openstack hakers in the bay area looking for work ?01:55
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cgrayhi guys, I'm trying to setup cpanel or SSL hosting and need multiple IPs on the VMs.. Anyone know how to setup and route floating ips to VMs directly or atleast multiple 1:1 NAT?03:51
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neumerance <neumerance> I was trying to deploy Custome Horizon Dashboard in our server and it gives me an import error with the horizon modules05:28
neumerance<neumerance> more details about this from this page http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18094799/unable-to-import-modules-upon-django-deployment05:28
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ekarlso-neumerance: yo06:36
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rankoBobBall: Hi, DevStack install_os_domU.sh exiting with this error: "XenAPI does not have an assigned IP address on the management network."13:21
rankoany idea what is wrong?13:21
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rankoah, running now, was using bridge that was not assigned any ip13:24
BobBallhehe13:25
BobBallthat's a fun one13:25
BobBallglad it's working :)13:25
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rankoBobBall: Yeah :). I am not very good when it comes to networking :(13:30
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BobBallIt's one of the areas that does need a little more thought with XenServer simply because nova runs in a domU.  Have you seen http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/introduction-to-xen.html and the diagram there?13:32
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rankoYes, I have seen that.13:33
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rankoIn my case, I am setting up single node with 4 NICs and one NIC (eth2) connected to an existing network.13:35
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rankoBobBall: I just realised that I ran DevStack with wrong networking parameters :( Is there any cleanup script?13:36
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BobBallno script, no13:38
BobBallbut just attach to your XenServer with XenCentre and delete the networks13:38
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rankoOkay. I have XCP with console access.13:38
rankoWill do that.13:39
BobBallthen just xe network-list and then forget the OS ones13:39
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rankoDo I need to delete the DevStackOSDomU vm too?13:40
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BobBallhmmm13:41
BobBallhow far through setup did it get?13:41
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BobBallif it completed, I think it's OK (it wipes the networks before completing)13:42
BobBalloh hang on13:42
BobBallno it should be fine13:42
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rankoIt started the vm but with wrong xen bridge13:42
BobBallwhen you run again it'll detect if it can use the VM and if not it'll throw it away I think13:42
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rankoOkay, cool.13:43
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fm255005I have a quantum local network with multi-back that does not seem to want to give the instances an internal ip address14:11
fm255005everything is showing up as active in the dashboard14:12
fm255005quantum agent-list everything looks happy14:12
fm255005nothing in the logs14:12
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fm255005cloud controller - quantum server14:13
fm255005network node - all agents14:13
fm255005compute - openvswitch agent14:13
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ranko /msg NickServ identify samanabad14:20
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rankoBobBall: Can't Dom0 and DomU use the same eth port & bridge? By default Devstack uses eth0 and xenbr0 (it seems like) but in my case its eth2 and xenbr2. I have set HOST_IP_IFACE=eth2, UBUNTU_INST_BRIDGE_OR_NET_NAME=xenbr2 and MGT_BRIDGE_OR_NET_NAME=xenb2 in localrc. DomU does not get any ip from the existing dhcp. Am I doing something wrong here?14:34
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BobBallranko: Yes, they should be able to - the default case is they do that all on eth0.  I assume that MGT_BRIDGE_OR_NET_NAME is xenbr2 too :)14:36
BobBallcould you just check what the status is with the networking?14:36
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BobBallupload to paste.openstack.org the output of xe network-list and xe vif-list vm-name-label=DevStackOSDomU (or whatever the name label is)14:37
BobBallpossibly add params=all just to get all the params from both of them14:37
rankoBobBall: localrc: http://pastebin.com/GZcqgR5U14:37
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rankoBobBall: xe network-list -> http://pastebin.com/nqxuDLGj14:39
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rankoBobBall: xe vif-list vm-name-label=DevStackOSDomU -> http://pastebin.com/qHpjTnsJ14:40
BobBallinteresting - devstack only has one vif! that's unusual14:40
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BobBallit should also have xapi1 and xapi0...14:41
BobBalldid you delete the VM or did the script delete it? or is it trying to use the same setup from before?14:41
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rankoI delete the VM14:42
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rankoI have MANAGEMENT_INTERFACE='xenbr2' in /etc/xcp/inventory14:43
BobBallCan you re-run it but add CLEAN_TEMPLATES=true to localrc14:43
rankoOkay14:43
rankoBobBall: Shall I delete the running vm?14:44
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BobBallthat'll automatically delete it14:44
BobBall:)14:44
rankoOkay :)14:44
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dmihey all14:49
dmiwhat would cause nova to stop downloading images from glance?14:49
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dmiI've got a small cluster using folsom on Centos 6.314:50
dmiand I set up a new compute node, but it's apparently unable to fetch images14:50
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fm255005did you put the nova credentials in an rc file?14:51
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fm255005actually it would be your keystone admin credentials14:52
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dmiyeah, the config matches the other nodes which do work14:55
dmiI'd like to enable detailed logging for this, but setting "debug = true" in nova.conf on the compute node doesn't say anything about glance14:55
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dmithe reason I think the problem is here is that booting a VM on the new node fails with: qemu-img: Could not open '/var/lib/nova/instances/_base/031388ed50cfe53945142ee7d4fb7349dc63ea37'14:56
fm255005try running glance index from the compute node14:56
dmithat file exists on other compute nodes14:56
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dmiaha!14:56
dmiit apparently can't speak to keystone14:56
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dmioh14:57
dmino14:57
dmiI just mistyped14:57
dmiglance index does work14:57
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fm255005is there a default port that br-int binds too?15:01
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fm255005bridge|ERR|bridge br-int: failed to set bridge Ethernet address: Device or resource busy15:02
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b1tbktswitching from vnc to spice...with spice enabled, the vm's are not getting graphics or video entries populated in their xml15:12
b1tbktthoughts or clever derisions welcomed15:12
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b1tbktI can manually add the graphics and video stanzas to the xml and everything works fine.15:15
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rankoBobBall: I made the eth0 link active now instead of eth2. Ran the DevStack again that started the VM, now I am not able to get console access to DevStack DomU VM.15:53
rankoxe console vm=DevStackOSDomU15:53
rankoConnecting to console on VM DevStackOSDomU. Press Ctrl + ']' to quit.15:53
rankoSys_error("Connection reset by peer")15:54
rankoError: Failure15:54
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BobBallranko: I'm afraid I'm a bit busy at the moment to help - could you send an email to openstack-dev explaining the symptoms and I'll try and help15:54
BobBallCheck if VNC works (e.g. vncviewer --via root@<dom0_ip> :1)15:54
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rankoVNC complains about "Cannot open display"15:55
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KaZeRranko: have you try ensuring that your hypervisor is listening on the vnc port?16:09
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KaZeRranko: is your novncproxy service running? no errors in the logs?16:09
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rankoKaZeR: ps aux | grep vnc shows /usr/lib/xcp/lib/vncterm -v 127.0.0.1:1 -S -x /local/domain/1/console -T16:12
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rankoSo I think hypervisor is running it?16:12
rankoI don't have novncproxy service installed16:13
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KaZeRranko: i think you need it. http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/getting-started-with-vnc-proxy.html16:14
KaZeRit's not complicated to setup16:14
rankoKaZeR: Okay, thanks.16:15
rankoKaZeR: Any idea why can't I use xe console to connect to the vm?16:15
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rankoAnd DevStack docs does not say anything about setting up VNC console proxy16:16
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BobBallyou don't need novncproxy16:17
BobBallsorry16:17
BobBallI'm real busy atm - can't follow this chan16:17
rankoBobBall: No worries16:18
BobBallperhaps you could mail the question to xs-devel@lists.xenserver.org?16:18
rankoBobBall: I will try few things before sending the mail.16:18
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BobBallalso I suggest you use xenserver 6.2 ranko - fully open source with an XCP mode if you feel very paranoid - but it's "the future" of XCP and you're likely to get more help from xs-devel if it's not working on xenserver rather than only not working on xcp16:20
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rankoBobBall: Good to know that. I will try that too if this setup does not work :)16:24
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johnthetubaguyranko: devstack should set up everything for you if you use /tools/xen way of setting things up16:31
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johnthetubaguyranko: I would check what IP address are being detected as HOST_IP and in the VNC settings, it might be pointing in the wrong direction16:33
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rankojohnthetubaguy: VNC connection is working fine now. Started DomU VM is failing to get an ip from dhcp.16:34
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johnthetubaguyranko: sounds like your ip tables rules in Dom0 got messed up by someone16:35
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rankojohnthetubaguy: hmm ... its a fresh installation and I haven't touched the iptables yet16:36
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johnthetubaguyranko: Oh, so fresh install, and DomU can't do dhcp during the ubuntu install?16:36
BobBall_AFKmore likely that the networks are messed up16:36
BobBall_AFKdon't forget we use a different IFACE for ubuntu install now16:36
BobBall_AFKso that might work and domU might not get an IP for other reasons16:36
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BobBall_AFKbut that doesn't explain why VNC to domU doesn't work16:37
johnthetubaguyranko: yeah, its worth double checking all those, and give it an interface that has DHCP and can talk to the internet, ideally16:37
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rankoBobBall_AFK: VNC is working now16:37
BobBall_AFKoh16:37
BobBall_AFKdamn16:37
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BobBall_AFKI mean good lol16:37
BobBall_AFKso what was the VNC problem?16:37
rankoBobBall_AFK: Created ssh tunnel remotely and connected from a windows machine16:38
BobBall_AFKand you're now using eth0 throughout rather than eth2 as you wanted?16:38
BobBall_AFKoh fair enough16:38
rankoyes16:38
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BobBall_AFKcan you post the network-list params=all, vif-list params=all vm-name-label=XXX and vm-list params=all name-label=XXX to pastebin16:39
BobBall_AFKand your new localrc of course16:39
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BobBall_AFKperhaps just send the links in an email to openstack@citrix.com if you could?  That way I can look at them tonight because I have to go home now :)16:41
rankoBobBall_AFK: Alright, thanks!16:42
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adalbasis there anything like "nova-manage service list" for the other services (cinder, glance, ...) ?16:52
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Qlawyadalbas: nope16:55
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adalbasQlawy, tks!16:57
adalbasi guess i need to continue using service and ps then16:57
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Qlawyyeah16:58
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fm255005bridge br-int: failed to set bridge Ethernet address: Device or resource busy17:53
fm255005i keep getting this when i turn start openvswithc17:53
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fm255005really need help with this17:54
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fm255005ok how about another question....is quantum, local type the setting for a 1 node server?18:01
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fm255005would i need to use GRE or VLAN for multi-node?18:02
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theShaz /msg NickServ identify qwerty18:04
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Qlawysudenly i setup "working" quantum env aio18:25
Qlawybut..18:25
Qlawywhy I cannot ping vms from lets call it: mgmt node?18:25
Qlawywhy I have no interface/bridge with addres from vms network like it was with nova-network18:25
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Qlawyha!18:39
Qlawythat namespaces...18:39
Qlawyit sucks18:39
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teknomegahi all19:19
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teknomegai have a question about a specific flavour of openstack.. Mirantis Fuel for Openstack19:19
teknomegai am not quite understanding... Cinder / Virtual Storage and all this jazz19:19
teknomegawhen i create a VM where does it get stored ?19:19
teknomegahow can i check where it gets stored ?19:20
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Qlawyteknomega: vm is stored on compute node19:37
Qlawyteknomega: cinder volumes are connected to VM using iSCSI and are stored on .. hmm storage node(?)19:38
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Qlawyteknomega: use nova show instande_id to check on what compute node its spawned19:39
Qlawyteknomega: and in most cases it will be stored there19:39
Qlawyteknomega: excpet when "storage" is shared between all compute nodes19:39
teknomegaty19:40
teknomegawe have local SSD's on all Compute Nodes19:40
Qlawyteknomega: check /var/lib/nova/instances/$INSTANCE_ID_HERE19:40
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teknomegaand then we have SATA on our Cinder Volumes19:40
teknomegadoes that make sense19:40
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teknomegadoes Cinder NEED hardware RAID or does it make copies of all data to all available HDD's on all Cinder Volumes ?19:41
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Qlawyteknomega: eee... what copy?19:41
teknomega?19:41
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Qlawyteknomega: you want redundancy? You need to covert it by yourself19:42
andi-teknomega: cinder doesnt care about raid, copies, ... it just knows WHERE the data is and how to create a new volume/.. there19:42
Qlawyteknomega: cinder uses volume groups of LVM19:42
teknomegadoes Cinder replicate data for me in case of hardware failures ?19:42
Qlawyteknomega: no19:42
teknomegaok19:42
teknomegawhat does Cinder Store ?19:42
teknomegamy VM's correct19:42
Qlawynoe19:42
teknomegaoh19:43
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Qlawyteknomega: lets start from begining19:43
teknomegai have been reading about what Cinder is on alot of websites.. its not very explanitive19:43
Qlawyteknomega: Cinder gives you ability to connect ADDITIONAL disks to your vms19:44
teknomegaQlawy: sounds good19:44
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Qlawyteknomega: you can boot from Cinder volume also19:44
Qlawyteknomega: but you need it already prepared (afair) with system19:44
Qlawyteknomega: now lets jump to flavors19:44
Qlawyteknomega: all flavors have disk and ephemeral19:45
Qlawyteknomega: those two disks are internal VM disk and are stored on compute node in /var/lib/nova/instances/19:45
Qlawyteknomega: you can make it directory shared between all compute nodes (you have to if you want live migration)19:45
teknomegaok19:46
Qlawyteknomega: and then vms would be stored on some external HDD/RAID/SAN whatever19:46
Qlawyteknomega: but it is still no Cinder19:46
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teknomegawhere does this volume manager come into play.. like swift19:47
Qlawyteknomega: cinder is for additional disks, as it was said19:47
teknomegaor whatever swift is19:47
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Qlawyteknomega: oh... switf... to be honest - im not sure19:47
Qlawyteknomega: we are not using this19:47
teknomegaok19:47
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Qlawyteknomega: but it sth like storage of all kinds of data, it looks like...19:48
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sputnik13_is anyone using quantum/neutron with their openstack?20:26
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Qlawysputnik13_: testing now, and its driving me crazy20:28
sputnik13_Qlawy: how so?20:29
sputnik13_Qlawy: also are you doing L3 networking or L2 networking20:29
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Qlawysputnik13_: trying to understand how is it working and why I cant force it to work on that goddamn RHEL20:30
sputnik13_Qlawy: i c...20:30
Qlawysputnik13_: but l2 is priority for me now20:30
sputnik13_Qlawy: I was able to get it up and running fairly easily with ubuntu/juju20:30
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sputnik13_Qlawy: but I can't see how to do L2 networking20:31
sputnik13_Qlawy: L2 is a priority for me as well20:31
Qlawysputnik13_: with ubuntu it is indeed easy20:31
sputnik13_Qlawy: why rhel?20:31
Qlawysputnik13_: three letters corporation20:31
Qlawysputnik13_: :E20:31
sputnik13_bleh20:31
sputnik13_we're not that big but our IT insists ubuntu isn't enterprise and must use ubuntu also20:32
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sputnik13_err must use rhel20:32
sputnik13_or centos20:32
sputnik13_as if centos is really that much better20:32
sputnik13_Qlawy: how are you installing openstack on rhel?20:32
sputnik13_manually?20:32
Qlawysputnik13_: yes20:32
Qlawysputnik13_: I love manual installations :P20:32
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sputnik13_Qlawy: I take it you're in to s&m too then20:33
sputnik13_Qlawy: 'cause you must love pain20:33
sputnik13_:)20:33
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Qlawysputnik13_: but... what I realized for now, trying to get quantum/neutron working without namespaces is such a pain ;/20:33
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sputnik13_I'm considering taking down the maas/juju setup and trying rackspace's stack20:34
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Qlawysputnik13_: never used it20:34
sputnik13_but that detail aside...  L2 networking, I need to get it working somehow20:34
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Qlawysputnik13_: I got it working on rhel only once20:34
Qlawysputnik13_: and honestly, have no idea how20:35
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sputnik13_Qlawy: well, at least you know it's possible then :)20:37
sputnik13_Qlawy: did you have to go through the quantum cli?20:37
sputnik13_Qlawy: I don't see anything related to L2 networking on horizon, so I'm assuming it's not integrated in to the dashboard yet20:38
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Qlawysputnik13_: you are using dashboard? You hipster... ;)20:41
Qlawysputnik13_: im console guy20:41
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Qlawysputnik13_: Im really upset when fored to use those web ui's20:42
sputnik13_Qlawy: I appreciate CLI interfaces for focused efforts, but I needed to get everything up and running in a short time20:42
Qlawysputnik13_: POC?20:42
sputnik13_Qlawy: and learning a whole ecosystem of CLI interfaces takes a long time20:43
Qlawysputnik13_: or developers machines?20:43
sputnik13_Qlawy: yes, POC20:43
Qlawysputnik13_: use devstack20:43
sputnik13_Qlawy: POC for myself :)20:43
sputnik13_Qlawy: well, scalability is important, so this was also an evaluation of MAAS/Juju at the same time20:43
Qlawysputnik13_: hmm...20:43
sputnik13_I like MAAS and Juju but I don't think they're production ready20:43
Qlawysputnik13_: perhaps chef?20:44
sputnik13_so I want to try chef now20:44
sputnik13_yup20:44
sputnik13_that's why I'm looking at the rackspace package20:44
sputnik13_they integrate chef in to their setup20:44
Qlawythere are openstack recipes for chef20:44
sputnik13_http://www.rackspace.com/cloud/private/openstack_software/20:44
QlawyI suppose not only rackspaces OS have it20:44
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Qlawyhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Get_OpenStack#Chef20:45
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sputnik13_Qlawy: yeah, I know there's other recipes, but it's always nice to use something that's put together in a comprehensive way20:45
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sputnik13_and if this works out, I can tell IT that we can purchase support from rackspace if necessary20:45
sputnik13_rather than saying they have to self support20:45
sputnik13_which they seem incapable of doing unless it's vmware20:45
sputnik13_:(20:45
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Qlawythey support only vmware?20:46
sputnik13_I'm coming from the dev side, so I'm all for self-support but meh20:46
sputnik13_I'd rather we do something rather than stay with status quo20:46
sputnik13_Qlawy: our IT is very much an oracle, vmware, rhel, microsoft, etc big brand shop20:47
Qlawysrsly, when you know how to do it, manuall instalations takes hmm... 30min?20:47
sputnik13_they won't even use mysql unless it's the oracle supported one20:47
Qlawysputnik13_: buttheads20:47
sputnik13_Qlawy: yes :)20:48
Qlawysputnik13_: tell me they dont like postrgres too20:48
sputnik13_Qlawy: what's postgres?20:48
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sputnik13_that's what they'll probably say20:48
QlawyPostgreSQL20:48
sputnik13_I know what postgres is ;)20:48
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sputnik13_talking of databases...  firebase.com is a damn cool database for web apps20:49
sputnik13_just had to throw that in, I was floored when I saw it a couple days ago :)20:49
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Qlawyproblem with DBs is that if applications does not use universal DB interface there is problem with adopting it to new "DB engine"20:51
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Qlawysputnik13_: but back to te topic, you have that l2 working or not?20:57
sputnik13_Qlawy: nope, I don't even know where to begin20:57
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Qlawysputnik13_: I can paste you really great howto20:57
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sputnik13_Qlawy: that would be awesome20:58
Qlawysputnik13_: which im pasting at least once a day here Oo20:58
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Qlawysputnik13_: https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide20:58
sputnik13_Qlawy: hahah, thanks20:58
sputnik13_Qlawy: did you write this?20:58
Qlawynope20:58
Qlawysputnik13_: but author done realy realy good job20:59
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Qlawysputnik13_: OVS_SingeNode and OVS_MultiNode are great21:00
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Qlawysputnik13_: especially when you are using ubuntu :P21:01
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sputnik13_Qlawy: I will be looking through this in detail21:02
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sputnik13_Qlawy: thank you for the pointer21:02
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indeedMoving to Ubuntu was the single most time-saving move our devops team has made yet :)21:03
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sputnik13_indeed: what company?21:04
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indeedA very nice one... and the transition is still in progress.21:05
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indeedMoved off Suse, which seems to be dying a slow painful death. Especially support for openstack, ceph, etc.21:06
Qlawyindeed: noone is using sles LO21:07
Qlawy:P21:07
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indeedNo joke. That was the first thing I changed after promotion.21:07
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sputnik13_suse used to be pretty good21:08
sputnik13_I remember at one point it was the only distro that worked out of the box for me21:08
sputnik13_as a desktop21:08
sputnik13_now it's ubuntu all the way21:09
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occupanthmph... the puppet-openstack documentation says there are swift examples in tests/site.pp, but there aren't.21:11
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Gamekiller77i looking at the dashboard config file and i see a field of OPENSTACK_HOST = "127.0.0.1"  now is this my nova controller or what.  each service is on different server21:28
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jfarschmanAnyone have (nova-network) experience getting the FLOATING and FIXED addresses to both be routable?  I'm really close…. can ping both addresses from the outside, but for some reason cannot ping outside the FIXED logical network.21:40
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Apsujfarschman: Sure. Link to a paste of your nova.conf and the output of "ip a; ip r; brctl show"21:41
jfarschmanthat is… I cannot ping from the instance out.     I reset the gateway to be my hardware router21:41
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jfarschmanapsu: Thanks. - http://paste.openstack.org/show/43499/21:44
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jfarschmanas a note, I did do a bit of fancy routing on the compute node so that routing can take place from two different logical networks.21:46
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Apsujfarschman: "fancy" meaning policy routing from two VM networks? Or through two "public" networks on the nodes?21:48
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Apsujfarschman: Yeah, your nova.conf is a little wrong, which is putting floating IPs and the fixed gateway on the wrong interface.21:49
jfarschmanIt's the physical NICs on the bare metal.  have those routing so that you can come on either the FIXED or FLOATING addresses21:49
jfarschmanwhat?21:50
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jfarschmanIm looking, but I don't see it yet.21:51
Apsujfarschman: Look at your interface/IP config. eth1 is in br100, yet your "public" network (172.17.16.0/24) is on eth0, as is the default route. In your nova.conf, you have public_interface=br100; but it's not. This affects the default SNAT rule in iptables as well as where floating IPs go.21:51
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jfarschmanah.  Let me work on fixing that.  I think I see it.21:52
Apsujfarschman: You've also got flat_network_bridge=br100 *and* flat_interface=br100. Your fixed_range is 172.17.8.0/24, and this isn't going to do what you want with routing/SNAT/floats.21:53
Apsujfarschman: You don't need any custom routing rules to make fixed/floats work through the bridge unless you have multiple public networks/default gateways to manage.21:53
jfarschmanApsu: I think I can figure it out from here.  Thanks.21:54
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Apsujfarschman: http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-compute/admin/content/libvirt-flat-dhcp-networking.html21:54
Apsujfarschman: ^ the reference you want :)21:55
Gamekiller77is there a good admin guide for the dashboard like what they have for storage and compute.  It has detailed info on the conf file and what each part is i can not find this on the doc site.21:55
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jfarschmanApsu: Thank you. my nova-network problem is solved.  That link was great22:34
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Apsujfarschman: Yay!23:05
Apsujfarschman: Glad I knew enough to identify the issue so fast :)23:05
ApsuSadly they're not all so easy, hehe23:05
jfarschmanapsu: once I saw the multiple errors it was apparently that I copied a bad config and then went to lunch.23:06
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jfarschmanthanks again.23:06
Apsujfarschman: Np.23:06
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KaZeRApsu: is there a bug report, or maybe a commit about the metadata issue your found saturday?23:26
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ApsuKaZeR: Yep. https://code.launchpad.net/bugs/1209396 and I submitted https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40487/ but there's some bugs around the unit tests making Jenkins bail... still working on it23:30
KaZeRgreat thanks Apsu. it was only to reference the patch.23:30
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ApsuGotcha.23:30
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KaZeR(i am currently packaging openstack for Gentoo and your patch is already included in my package)23:32
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ApsuAh, cool :)23:34
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KaZeRyes, and overall it was pretty easy. i still have to figure out a few issues about cinder though23:36
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