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| pabelanger | Greetings, I was hoping somebody could point me towards some documentation about partitions a single node openstack install. I believe my base OS install only needs to be ~40GB or so, but wanted to confirm. Additionally, any specifics to hardware raid setup for that partitions is bonus material | 01:21 |
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| kallisti5 | ok | 03:13 |
| kallisti5 | *this* is what was missing from my knowledge. this wasn't obvious thus took a *long* time to figure out | 03:13 |
| kallisti5 | http://imagebin.org/267769 | 03:14 |
| kallisti5 | nova-network (no quantum / neutron) | 03:14 |
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| jopz | Hi | 07:55 |
| jopz | I have successfully configured openstack folsom on fedora 17 | 07:55 |
| jopz | everything works fine | 07:55 |
| jopz | But after log out from dashboard | 07:55 |
| jopz | am getting an error message The requested URL /auth/login/ was not found on this server. | 07:56 |
| jopz | The requested URL /auth/login/ was not found on this server. | 07:56 |
| jopz | how to resolve this | 07:56 |
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| jopz | my dashboard url is <IP address>/dashboard | 07:56 |
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| dachary | is there a way to browse http://www.openstack.org/rate/Presentation/ ? Instead of being presented random talks ? | 08:11 |
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| BobBall | you can search at the top | 08:59 |
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| grain2sable | Hi everyone! I would like to know if it's possible to add a proprety like "tags" for a snapshot ? If not if it's possible to convert snapshot to image for add property ? | 09:08 |
| elzid | morning guys - basic Q - if I launch a snapshot whilst the original instance is running, would I get a clash of IPs? Do I need to take the original offline first - I spose purpose of snapshots is similar to System Restore in windows... | 09:08 |
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| dannyroberts | Anyone know why when launching an openstack instance from an image that it fails witha status of Error if you select and flavor smaller than a medium? | 09:40 |
| morganfainberg | dannyroberts: the only time i've seen that is when the root disk size (in the flavor) is set to smaller than the amount of space the image takes up. | 09:41 |
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| morganfainberg | dannyroberts: the easiest way to check to if this is the case is to create a new flavor with root disk size of 0 (same other stats) and see if that works. | 09:41 |
| morganfainberg | dannyroberts: (specifically if/when it works with a larger flavor but not a smaller one, everything else being equal) | 09:42 |
| dannyroberts | morganfainber: I see so if that is the case perhaps shirking the disk size inside the image and re-creating would solve the issue if that is what is hapenning? I assmue it is the size of the disk the image was created with and not the actuall disk space sued that is improtant? | 09:43 |
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| morganfainberg | dannyroberts: that is typically my experience, given those symptoms and without knowing logs/etc. But first try creating a new flavor with the sizes (disk sizes) set to 0 (meaning use the size of the image), if that solves it you know where to start. If that doesn't solve the issue, you'll need to start digging into logs. | 09:46 |
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| dannyroberts | morganfainberg: thanks I'll start taking a look at that | 09:46 |
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| elzid | guys - when I run nova floating-ip-list I see only 1 IP yet when I run nova-manage floating list, I see hundreds (as expected) - any ideas why? | 10:17 |
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| dee_ | hi | 10:48 |
| ranko | elzid: "nova-manage floating list" lists the pool of ips, whereas "nova floating-ip-list" shows the ips reserved from the pool | 10:48 |
| ranko | I am not an expert of this though | 10:49 |
| dee_ | can comeone please tell me how to link run a python script and add its endpoints to the label in a login page | 10:49 |
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| dee_ | can comeone please tell me how to link run a python script from keystone and add its endpoints to the label in a login page of horizon ? | 10:49 |
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| JoeHazzers | is it possible to deploy neutron on an all-in-one setup with a single public interface and IP? | 12:41 |
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| fm255005 | is it possible to migrate instances from one openstack cluster to another? | 14:12 |
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| daveed | Hi guys, I'm trying to live migrate an instance and I'm getting this "Live Migration failure: Unable to pre-create chardev file /var/lib/nova/instances/whatever/console.log : No such file or directory" ... any idea? I have this issue with that VM only | 15:22 |
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| ja_netapp | if I am using devstack and encounter what looks like a bug affecting nova should I report it on devstack or nova? | 15:26 |
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| Chocobo | Does anyone else ever notice service services going to XXX without logging any errors? I just had that happen with DHCP agent on Grizzly. restarting the service brought it back. | 16:00 |
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| KaZeR | Chocobo: was the process still running before you restart it? | 16:29 |
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| KaZeR | i'm having this on a new node, and noticed that it's because my nova-compute service segfaults (hence, no logs :( ) | 16:29 |
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| Chocobo | KaZeR: Yes, the process seems to be running when it happens | 16:36 |
| KaZeR | great. i feel a bit less alone :) | 16:36 |
| KaZeR | Chocobo: which grizzly version are you running? | 16:36 |
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| Chocobo | KaZeR: 2013.1-0ubuntu2 | 16:37 |
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| kbringard | is anyone using rabbit 3.1.5 and erlang 5.10 with grizzly? | 16:38 |
| KaZeR | chocobo : ok. it's not because i never had this issue before. just started yesterday | 16:38 |
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| cfriesen | is "nova evacuate" supposed to be functional in grizzly? I tried killing a server and then doing "nova evacuate" to move an instance from the dead server to another one, but it just shows a status of "error". How do I figure out what the problem is? | 16:38 |
| Chocobo | KaZeR: Mine has been doing it for several weeks. Sometimes it is nova-compute, sometimes it is the L3 agent. I suspect it has something to do with AMQP | 16:39 |
| KaZeR | cfriesen: what shared storage are you using? | 16:39 |
| KaZeR | Chocobo: interesting.. | 16:39 |
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| KaZeR | what points you to amqp? | 16:39 |
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| cfriesen | I've tried it with booting from volume, and also without shared storage (which according to the docs should still work, though the new instance is fresh) | 16:40 |
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| KaZeR | cfriesen: you should have more details in the nova-scheduler logs i think. i'm not sure about using evacuate without shared storage, tho (but i'm no expert) | 16:41 |
| Chocobo | KaZeR: Just the nature of how the services fail. Like they are not reporting correctly. | 16:41 |
| Chocobo | KaZeR: I did notice a few of these warnings in dhcp-agent.log: 2013-08-14 06:38:41 WARNING [quantum.openstack.common.loopingcall] task run outlasted interval by 6.095 sec | 16:42 |
| Chocobo | I have no idea what that means though | 16:42 |
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| jproulx1 | (after folsom -> grizzly update) cinder-volume is logging sql conenction failures, though if I copy-paste user,pass,host,db from cinder.conf I can connect using mysql client ... any thoughts on what else to check? | 17:47 |
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| mfer | mordred: ping | 17:55 |
| mordred | I didn't do it | 17:55 |
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| ja_netapp | jproulx1: what does your sql_connection string look like? with Grizzly it looks like: sql_connection = mysql://root:nova@127.0.0.1/cinder?charset=utf8 | 18:07 |
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| jproulx1 | yes, it didn't have the charset=utf8 initially but noticed that on the controller node (which is running cinder-ap and -sceduler and can talk to db) add & restarted but still same error | 18:08 |
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| ja_netapp | you might try Verbosity of SQL debugging information. 0=None,100=Everything (integer value) | 18:10 |
| ja_netapp | sql_connection_debug=100 | 18:10 |
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| jproulx1 | ja_netapp: that looks like a handy flag trying it | 18:11 |
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| jproulx1 | wait I'm not geting any debug output either (with debug=ture and ql_connection_debug=100 ) just | 18:13 |
| jproulx1 | WARNING [cinder.db.sqlalchemy.session] SQL connection failed. 10 attempts left. | 18:13 |
| ja_netapp | you restarted? | 18:14 |
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| jproulx1 | root@host# service cinder-volume restart; tail -f /var/log/cinder/cinder-volume.log | 18:15 |
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| jproulx1 | first line before teh SQL error is Starting cinder-volume and clearly after I ran the restart | 18:15 |
| jproulx1 | think I'll did into my init scripts, seems it's not rereading the file | 18:16 |
| jproulx1 | or not the right one... | 18:16 |
| jproulx1 | s/did/dig/; | 18:16 |
| ja_netapp | yeah ok | 18:16 |
| jproulx1 | tahnks | 18:16 |
| jproulx1 | thanks :) | 18:16 |
| ja_netapp | sure thing! | 18:16 |
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| jproulx1 | ja_netapp: OK this borders on freakish, stopped the service and ran by hand, still no debug output with: | 18:28 |
| jproulx1 | sudo -u cinder /usr/bin/cinder-volume --config-file=/etc/cinder/cinder.conf --debug --sql_connection_debug 100 | 18:28 |
| jproulx1 | just "AUDIT" starting and then "WARNING" connection failed, plenty of available connections on DB server too so it's not just luck it went through by hand, busting out tcpdump & possibly following up with strace ... | 18:28 |
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| jproulx1 | well I'm an idiot, mysql server address is wrong...lol | 18:32 |
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| ja_netapp | ;-) | 18:44 |
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| visualne | Has anyone seen the mysql instance in a grizzly install over between 85% and 100%+ | 18:45 |
| visualne | cpu usage | 18:45 |
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| visualne | Anyone see the cpu usage on a mysql instance go between 85 and over 100% on a grizzly install on ubuntu 13.04 | 18:46 |
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| visualne | Anyone see the cpu usage on a mysql instance stay between 85 and over 100% on a grizzly install on ubuntu 13.04 ALL the time. | 18:50 |
| visualne | \\ | 18:50 |
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| jfarschman | Does any one know why the DHCP lease defaults to 1024 seconds? (--dhcp-lease-max=1024) That seems short. | 19:03 |
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| jproulx1 | jfarschman: I think the reasoning is that instances are ephemeral so you want to return the IPs to the pool as quickly as possible if they go away (I always increase the default lease time as I have an IP pool a few times larger than my instance pool can get) | 19:08 |
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| jfarschman | jproulx1: That makes sense. I was just messing with Puppet setting my resolv.conf and the lease expiry was fighting me. | 19:10 |
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| cfriesen | so I'm reading about aggregates and availability zones at http://russellbryantnet.wordpress.com/2013/05/21/availability-zones-and-host-aggregates-in-openstack-compute-nova/ and I'm a bit confused. It says, "This is not creating a host aggregate within an availability zone! It is creating a host aggregate that is the availability zone!" Except that nova will happily create multiple aggregates with the same availability zone | 19:21 |
| cfriesen | name. This seems like a mismatch. | 19:21 |
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| cfriesen | since the end-user can only specify an availability zone, and there could be multiple aggregates (with different hosts) mapping to that zone | 19:23 |
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| fm255005 | has anyone setup their external network to use dhcp? | 19:24 |
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| cfriesen | it seems like we should be disallowed from creating an aggregate with the same availability zone name as an existing zone. | 19:24 |
| fm255005 | Im able to get instances built on the external network but I have to manually setup the nic for it to work | 19:25 |
| fm255005 | also the hostname is not being passed and the machines are being built as localhost | 19:25 |
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| jharley | Hey, I'm running into a weird situation with 'nova get-password' (on a windows image with cloud-init/metadata setup), where it returns the empty string about 25% of the time? | 19:32 |
| visualne | Has anyone seen the mysql instance on a grizzly install stay between 85 and 100% | 19:32 |
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| jharley | is there a race condition or something? | 19:32 |
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| visualne | making the dashboard almost completely unusable | 19:32 |
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| perfectsine | fm255005: I'm right where you are on it man, manual setup, despite setting dhcp to enabled. Are you attaching the network to an L3 router also? | 19:37 |
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| perfectsine | visualise: What is the size of your install? | 19:38 |
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| perfectsine | visualne: What is the size of your install? | 19:40 |
| jproulx1 | perfectsine: fm255005: I have dhcp working on direct "external" network, but I did it by lying a bit and not setting it as an external network. This means I get direct NATless conenctions from VM but I don't think I could convince an l3-agent router to do nat from another internal network (if that makes any sense) | 19:41 |
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| perfectsine | jproulx1: yeah that's what we're seeing also | 19:41 |
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| perfectsine | also by configuring it with --no-gateway, setting the allocation pool on the network, and not connecting it to an L3 router. I've seen that working also | 19:42 |
| visualne_ | Anyone see the mysql instance CPU stay between 80 and over 100% on a grizzly install on ubuntu 13.04 | 19:43 |
| visualne_ | making the dashboard almost unusable | 19:43 |
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| jproulx1 | visualne: on a multi core system where 100%=100% of a core I frequently see MySQL over 100% (upto about 400%) this is for 60 physical nodes running about 900 VMs though | 19:43 |
| perfectsine | visualne: what is the size of your install? | 19:43 |
| visualne_ | We have a 5 node cluster, with about 130 vms running | 19:44 |
| visualne_ | perfectsine: Are you running mysql as the database? | 19:45 |
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| perfectsine | We've noticed grizzly pounds mysql for a fairly excessive amount. What hardware do you have running your mysql node? | 19:46 |
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| visualne_ | perfectsine: Working with a Dell R510, 8 core, 16 gigs of RAM, with 15k sas drives | 19:47 |
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| jproulx1 | visualne_ that should be able to keep up... | 19:48 |
| visualne_ | jproulxl: ya....the keystone mysql queries are taking over 3 seconds | 19:48 |
| jproulx1 | are you using PKI tokens? | 19:49 |
| jproulx1 | it doesn't delete expired tokens which clogs up DB access there's an open bug somewhere on that | 19:49 |
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| visualne_ | We have a script to clear the tokens everyday | 19:50 |
| jproulx1 | mysql keystone -e 'SELECT COUNT(*) FROM token WHERE expires <= NOW();' | 19:50 |
| jproulx1 | Oh... (me too) | 19:50 |
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| visualne_ | We have about 150,000 rows in the keystone token table | 19:51 |
| perfectsine | visualne_: what is your keystone process util at? | 19:51 |
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| visualne_ | This keystone process /usr/bin/keystone-all jumping up to the mid 20s every now and again | 19:53 |
| jproulx1 | visualne_: I actually switch keystone back to UUID tokens this morning and got a huge performance increase (which seem the opposite of what I expect, so investigation is on my todo list as I'd prefer PKI) | 19:53 |
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| fin_ | What was required to change back to UUID? | 19:54 |
| visualne_ | Ya what was required to change back to UUID? | 19:54 |
| jproulx1 | root@nimbus-0:~# grep UUID /etc/keystone/keystone.conf | 19:54 |
| jproulx1 | token_format = UUID | 19:54 |
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| jproulx1 | just that one line & a restart | 19:55 |
| jproulx1 | I don't claim to know the full implication of it though so caveat haxor | 19:55 |
| fin_ | Did you notice better mysql performance after that? | 19:56 |
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| jproulx1 | I'm currently at 13% for mysqld (only about 150 instances running now) | 19:57 |
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| jproulx1 | which is a lot lower than I was seeing with fewer instances before the change | 19:57 |
| fin_ | Yeah it must have something to do with the 1024 bit string for the PKI that gets stored in the token table | 19:58 |
| perfectsine | I believe you can store tokens in memcached also | 19:58 |
| fin_ | That sounds like an interesting option. | 19:59 |
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| perfectsine | peter feiner has a great post about it, including lots of other stuff as well: http://blog.gridcentric.com/bid/318277/Boosting-OpenStack-s-Parallel-Performance | 20:00 |
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| visualne_ | I think we are going to try this | 20:00 |
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| jproulx1 | perfectsine: thanks for that link it does look great! | 20:02 |
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| fin_ | I just made the change over to UUID and it made a huge difference. | 20:02 |
| perfectsine | jproulx1: Yeah, makes you yearn for havana and those worker patches | 20:02 |
| jproulx1 | I've been yearning for multiple workers for some time | 20:03 |
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| jproulx1 | my users like to spin up and shut down 100's of instances at a time, folsom wan't much good at that (but better than essex) grizzly seems to have gone backwards a bit though I'm hoping I just haven't quite got it figured out | 20:04 |
| perfectsine | Another big switch we just made was to use config_drive for metadata in nova | 20:05 |
| jproulx1 | another thing I found was using conductor really hurt | 20:05 |
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| perfectsine | Ubuntu minimal in ~6sec | 20:05 |
| jproulx1 | I spun up a half dozen nova-conductor intances within my cloud in tiny instances and that helped a lot | 20:05 |
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| perfectsine | jproulx1: whats your network engine? quantum/neutron? | 20:06 |
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| jproulx1 | quantum/neutron with ovs | 20:06 |
| perfectsine | same here, how's that going? how many quantum nodes are you guys running? | 20:07 |
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| jproulx1 | just one right now though I have just one provider network setup that patches VMs directly to a preexisting VLAN so it's not handling many bits | 20:08 |
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| perfectsine | no L3 routers at all? | 20:08 |
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| jproulx1 | no, it's very simple now. | 20:10 |
| booi | Does anybody have any experience with the openstack puppet module? I'm having an issue where the swift module isn't pushing the ring files to the storage nodes automatically requiring manual intervention. | 20:10 |
| jproulx1 | users can create private networks but the'd need to provide and configure instance to act as a NAT gate way. I don't see this as a big use case here though, but I will likely add more VLANs in a similar config to this one | 20:11 |
| jproulx1 | I mostly wanted to get quantum/neutron to do what we had in place with nova-network FlatDHCP & then see what else it could do from there - current quantum use is measured in hours. | 20:13 |
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| perfectsine | jproulx1: I love the idea, saves that quantum node so much effort and lots of extra internal traffic | 20:14 |
| jproulx1 | booi: I use the module, but not swift sorry | 20:14 |
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| jproulx1 | perfectsine: since it's a private deployment in a research environment we don't need to have hard segmentation between projects which makes itpossible | 20:15 |
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| jproulx1 | perfectsine: lets me use the existing controller node as network node too. Controller has two bonded 10G nics for primary connecting but is using a single 1G with trunked vlans for the quantum networks since all it's sending is DHCP and metadata | 20:19 |
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| jproulx1 | I just let my users back in at noon so we'll see how it goes... | 20:19 |
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| perfectsine | jproulx1: at 900VM's it was running smoothly before? | 20:20 |
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| jproulx1 | With folsom, yes mostly. The bumps we had were mostly because we were operating very near our resource capacity and don't bill for usage :) | 20:22 |
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| jproulx1 | teh networking side was nova-network flatdhcp in multihost mode which worked pretty well and is still possible to use ... if deprecated | 20:23 |
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| perfectsine | jproulx1: we're stearing clear of nova-network for the moment, looks like only neutron is getting dev for the future | 20:27 |
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| jproulx1 | that's wise, if you jump into nova-network now you're just asking for pain later. I can't imagine a transition without shutting down all running VMs ... just about anything else you do to OpenStack just disrupts the control plane which is much easier to get away with | 20:29 |
| Chocobo | Does anyone know of any good documenation explaining best practices for image creation? I looking on how to tune/trim memory usage, set appropriate sysctl flags, etc. | 20:32 |
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| jproulx1 | Chocobo I know this exists, but honestly haven't read it so not sure if it goes to the depth you want: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-image/content/ | 20:50 |
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| Egyptian[Home] | hello, i was able to launch a first instance and verified that it came up and all, then every other instance failed with an error. i cannot find the logs that state the reason that the instances failed to launch. i then destroyed the first instance and when i had no vms i launched another one. that failed too. this is a single node from packstack with no quantum and havana with 2gb memory and 4thread cpu with vmx enabled. he | 21:26 |
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