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mspreitzis there anybody out there?00:17
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Kupo24zCan you create a volume from an instance or instance snapshot?00:27
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Luca__Hello, is there anybody who can has some successful experiences installing grizzly and quantum on a VBox environment?01:30
Luca__I have not been able so far of reaching the instances from outside the cloud01:31
Luca__it would be great if anybody can share the experiences. thanks01:31
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Luca__Anybody there who can share their experiences?01:50
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Egyptian[Laptop]Luca__: so far only grizzly worked for me.coz of rdo02:04
Egyptian[Laptop]does neutron keep track of namespaces too ?02:05
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stahnmaHow do I force an instance to start on a reboot of the a nova node? (I only have one nova node)03:38
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jbrisko_is anyone here that understands quantum/neutron pretty well?03:48
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prometheanfireanyone that understands?04:20
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AliRezaTaleghanicould you please explain the debug message here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6182973/08:25
AliRezaTaleghaniand I think I had some mistake on nova configuration :-/08:25
AliRezaTaleghanii think08:25
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miziel_rHi everyone! Is this possible to have a readonly admin ?09:19
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openstackstatusNOTICE: One of our Jenkins masters is failing to return results, so the gate is currently stuck.09:46
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openstackstatusNOTICE: Jenkins01 is not failing, it's just very slow at the moment... so the gate is not completely stuck.09:54
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sigurdinghow do I get the current output of cinder for debugging? (devstack)10:06
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miziel_rHi everyone! Is this possible to have a readonly admin ?10:11
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AliRezaTaleghanican some budy explain what dose it mean?http://paste.ubuntu.com/6183318/10:43
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IleAliRezaTaleghani, for me it looks like you have misconfigured SQL settings in nova.conf10:46
AliRezaTaleghaniI had make a little change with default senario10:47
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AliRezaTaleghaniI mean I had installed two sperate hardware (CentOS 6.4 64bit) with just Nova-compute10:47
AliRezaTaleghanipachake10:47
AliRezaTaleghanipakcge10:47
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AliRezaTaleghaniand the controller VM is seprated VM which I'm trying to bring all other modules on10:48
AliRezaTaleghanialso I had configured Mysql for all10:48
AliRezaTaleghaniIle: do u need to check my nova.conf?10:49
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AliRezaTaleghanisql_connection=mysql://nova:sysSecret@XX.SS.DD.EE/nova10:49
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AliRezaTaleghanithis is the sql line in my nova.conf10:50
Ileand you can connect to SQL with nova user?10:50
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clouded_tuxHi.. all my nova conductor is constantly throwing this trace unsupportedobjecterror: unsupported object type migrationlist12:22
clouded_tuxunable to instantiate unregisterd object type migrationlist12:22
clouded_tuxanybody has any suggestions12:22
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carnalerhello guys13:19
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Chocobogiven this is part of my kvm command line "... -netdev tap,fd=30,id=hostnet0,vhost=on,vhostfd=31 ..." how can I determine the name of the tap device KVM is connected to?13:42
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kbringardif you're using OVS, I believe it's tap-<first 11 characters of the quantum port uuid>13:44
kbringardso if you know the MAC address of the VM, you should be able to do like quantum router-port-list <router-name> | grep -i $MAC13:44
kbringardthen take the id and match it up to the tap device on the system13:44
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kbringardChocobo: ^^13:45
Chocobokbringard: Thanks!  Man, that is handy to know...  I kept getting to a certain point tracking down network problems and then lost track of the naming.  Thank you.13:46
kbringardyea, it's complex13:46
kbringardhttp://techbackground.blogspot.com/2013/05/the-quantum-l3-router-and-floating-ips.html13:46
kbringardthis has some good info on it13:46
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kbringardand in fact that whole blog is worth reading13:46
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kbringardDarrah O'Reilly should be given a nobel prize13:47
Chocobokbringard: I actually just found the blog (not this post) last night... I was having a MTU issue when using GRE tunnels.13:49
kbringardyea… dat GRE overhead13:49
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ChocoboInteresting.  The MAC address of my VM is not listed as one of the router ports.13:49
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Chocoboahhh, quantum port-list to the rescue13:54
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kbringardahhh, sorry13:55
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Chocobokbringard: oh no!  Do not be sorry...  your tips has really blown this networking thing wide open to me.13:57
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annegentle_kbringard: we should give Darrah O'Reilly a Pulitzer14:02
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kbringardannegentle_: that too14:04
kbringardone of each14:04
kbringardI suggested a nobel peace prize because his blog has kept me from going nuclear on more than one occasion :-D14:05
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annegentle_kbringard: LOL14:06
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muehsiCan anyone help? I am using devstack with neutron. But my instances do not get IPs.. Here are (hopefully) all relevant logs/config files: http://paste.openstack.org/show/47439/14:07
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ChocoboHmm I wonder how the devices inside the namespace get their names.  Looks like it still based on a port id14:07
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ChocoboAhhh, the devices in the namespace get their names from the router-ports.  The other devices get their names from the network ports.  Got it.14:10
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carnalerin nova 2.13.0 you need to include the Authentication with keystone section at the bottom of the config file, otherwise, the configuration will be overrided by old values14:28
carnalerif you change those values, you will fuck your service lol14:28
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carnalerif anyone wants to take a look at a "sanitized" configuration, here it goes http://pastebin.com/DR2zxAFv14:30
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ChocoboWhat the heck!  http://techbackground.blogspot.ie/2013/06/dnsmasq-logging-and-options-for-quantum.html  How did he know about "dnsmasq_config_file"  is that an undocumented option?14:31
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kbringardI think it's documented14:32
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kbringardI'm the one who added that option many moons ago, and I'm relatively certain I documented it when I added it14:32
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kbringardChocobo: http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/admin/content/compute-options-reference.html14:34
kbringarddnsmasq_config_file=14:35
kbringard(StrOpt) Override the default dnsmasq settings with this file14:35
Chocobokbringard: ahh, then it just isn't in the reference config file.  :/14:35
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Chocobohrmm... this goes in quantum's dhcp_agent.ini config though :/14:36
kbringardand also http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-network/admin/content/dhcp_agent_ini.html14:36
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kbringard:-)14:36
Chocoboahh14:36
kbringardI didn't add it to the dhcp_ini code, tho, I think the options were all just ported over14:36
ChocoboI was positive that I checked once before and all the options in my config file matched the docs.  hrmph.14:37
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carnalerupdate: i restored the nova environment using an old backup. so i think i should have a recent nova database backup. it REALLY works hah14:49
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Anjuanybody around?15:25
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nicu_hey15:45
nicu_so basically with openstack (and ubuntu for ex.) i can setup a cloud platform and sell the computing resources?15:46
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cfriesenon an "evacuate" where the system needs to rebuild the rootfs (ie it's not using shared storage) what's the recommended method for ensuring that the newly-rebuild instance ends up with the same SSH host key as the previous one?  It's supposed to be the "same" VM, so it kind of defeats the purpose if everyone's ssh complains about possible man-in-the-middle attacks16:06
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browndwarfanyone have a link to the cinder options for nova.conf? I'm looking around and I can't find out how to specify a cinder endpoint or something like that.16:24
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gmibrowndwarf:nova uses the endpoint provided by keystone in order to reach cinder's api16:26
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gmibrowndwarf: the list of config options for nova (trunk) is here: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/config-reference/content/list-of-compute-config-options.html16:27
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browndwarfgotcha. I have volumes that are stuck in the attaching state. I feel like something must be missing from a nova config or something16:27
browndwarfthanks16:27
browndwarfI know the volumes are getting created, but I just can't get them to attach16:27
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gmibrowndwarf:there should be some info in the logs16:28
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browndwarfgmi: I don't see anything in the cinder or nova logs :(16:29
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gmibrowndwarf:in nova-compute.log on the compute node where the instance that needs to connect the volume runs, you should see the info needed to troubleshoot this (enable debug in nova.conf and restart the service)16:31
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browndwarfgmi: ok restarting and checking logs with debug on...16:35
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carnalerfinally i've fixed my environment16:46
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sneezewortHello all. When I run "nova keypair-list" on the controller it lists all of the keypairs, but when using horizon, when I go to create a new instance it says "No keypairs available."16:50
sneezewortWhat is the best way to troubleshoot this?16:50
browndwarfgmi: I see some cinder dialogue in the logs. including a line where it creates a connection to one of my endpoints for cinder16:51
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browndwarfwhat's interesting is that it is using the publicurl endpoint16:52
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gmibrowndwarf:can you manually try that iscsi command (from the compute node)? by default, the nova.conf option is cinder_catalog_info=volume:cinder:publicURL16:53
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gmisneezewort: make sure you're logged in dashboard as the user whose credentials you used when running  "nova keypair-list"16:54
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browndwarfgmi: I'll look up that command now and give it a shot.16:55
browndwarfthanks for the help16:55
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sneezewortgmi, Just FYI I closed and re-opened my browser, and now it shows up. Thanks.17:01
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browndwarfgmi: I'm able to do iscsi discovery on the internal ip for my cinder server. but the public facing endpoint fails17:03
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gmibrowndwarf: if you want to use the internal URL, change in nova.conf "cinder_catalog_info=volume:cinder:internalURL" on the compute node and restart the nova-compute service and retry17:05
browndwarfcool i'll give that a shot17:05
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Doug_Does anyone here know why I am not seeing any login errors, when enabling right handlers in the local_settings.py file for the dashboard17:26
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dmsimardHi. I know it is possible to add a second disk to a VM (for instance, the VM is by default installed with "vda", adding another disk "vdb"). Is it possible to do this somewhat automatically, maybe through a flavor ?17:31
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Doug_Does anyone here know why I am not seeing any login errors, when enabling right handlers in the local_settings.py file for the dashboard17:39
gmidmsimard:yes, you can define a flavor with a root disk of 5GG and an ephemeral disk of 20 GB and you'll get /dev/vda=5 GB and /dev/vdb=20 GB (both disks are in fact ephemeral as they are gone when the instance is deleted)17:39
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dmsimardgmi: Thanks, I will try that17:40
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gmidmsimard:also, keep in mind that when you snapshot an instance, only /dev/vda is captured and stored as raw in Glance17:42
badamstwo part question about cinder. why does it take so long to delete large volumes, and can this process be sped up at all?17:42
dmsimardgmi: will do.17:42
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steve_ipcHello, does anyone know how to set the username/password for ubuntu images? I have downloaded the latest qcow2 image but apparently it comes without a username/password set17:54
steve_ipcI saw an example of how to set with cloud-config and call kvm directly, but I would rather setup the image properly, upload it, and launch it with openstack17:54
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gmibadams:the volume has to be zeroed out18:03
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gmibadams:try adding "volume_clear=none" in cinder.conf and restart cinder services to speed up things18:13
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carnaleri apologize for the silly question but, what would happen if i start two different servers with the same nova.conf (but with different my_ip value) ?18:17
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alopcarnaler: we use template-ized nova.conf which are essentially 99.9% identical18:23
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carnaleralop: what are the diferences between them? do you have some examples? i'm having a pretty bad time configuring that service with xenserver18:24
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alopAFAIK, the only differences in our setup is just around IP, like for VNC listener18:25
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alopgmi: cinder volumes get zero'd out by default on delete?18:26
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carnaleralop: that'w great, lemme give it a try then! thanks a lot!18:27
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gmialop: yes, check "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/cinder/volume/drivers/lvm.py" on your cinder node18:45
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alopgmi: thanks, I saw that, too bad I'm using the netapp nfs driver18:45
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carnalerbigmstone: around here?18:47
bigmstonecarnaler: yes sir18:48
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carnalerbigmstone: nice! i pologize for the annoyance, but i need a reminder about your setup18:49
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carnalerbigmstone: you said that you needed to destroy the cluster to make the compute services to work with every xenserver right?18:50
ChocoboHmmm is it possible to do something like tcpdump on a tap interface if there is no ip assigned to it?18:50
carnaler(something like that)18:50
bigmstonecarnaler: yeah, I've been working with BobBall to sort some of the code out. There's quite a few bugs with Xen + aggregates.18:50
carnalerbigmstone: yes, that's the trick, damn18:51
bigmstoneIn fact if you don't need a pool for any reason then you are better off with isolated nodes now that Havana can do storage migrate.18:51
zxvffI have a swimming pool.18:51
bigmstonezxvff: put your severs there?18:51
bigmstoneXen + Openstack doesn't work if you throw the servers in a swimming pool apparently.18:52
carnalerzxvff: hope they won't leak lol18:52
bigmstoneSomething about water.18:52
carnalerthat could explain some things18:52
bigmstoneDo you need a pool?18:52
bigmstoneMy answer to that question is yes because of some XenDesktop stuff I'm doing. But if you don't need a pool things are fairly stable.18:53
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carnalerwell, i'm not sure, i mean, maybe we will need a pool to share resources18:53
carnalermachine migration based on demand18:53
carnalerstuff like that18:53
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bigmstonemachine migration based on demand? Inter-DC?18:54
carnalersorta18:54
bigmstoneCall in the unicorns. That doesn't work.18:54
bigmstoneUnless you have a massive pipe and the DCs are close.18:54
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bigmstone~40ms latency.18:55
bigmstonePlus are you going to do a L2 datacenter interconnect? Are you aware of the potential repercussions of doing that? Like tanking both DCs?18:55
carnaleroh yes i know18:56
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carnalerlol18:56
carnalerwell, maybe not a DC live migration, more like18:56
carnalermigrate machines between two or three servers that are part of a cluster18:56
carnalera local cluster18:56
bigmstoneYou can do that without cluster in Havana18:57
bigmstoneer aggregate18:57
bigmstoneor pool. Whatever term you want to use. :P18:57
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carnaleroh well, that seems different (and kinda nice) i was making the assumption that i need a cluster to share resources18:58
bigmstoneHavana migrates the volume with it now so no need for an aggregate to live migrate. Which is nice.18:58
carnaleryes18:58
carnalerdamn i have grizzly!18:58
carnalerwould it work?18:58
bigmstoneAfraid now. :(18:58
bigmstoneer18:58
bigmstonenot18:58
bigmstonebut Grizzly won't work with aggregates either. :)18:58
carnalerdamn18:58
carnalerwell, then seems like i just can get a bunch of servers18:59
carnalerinstall compute nodes on them18:59
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carnalerand launche instances over there, on each server (e.g. xenserver)18:59
carnalerlaunch*18:59
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carnalerwith isolated computing capacity19:00
carnaleramirite?19:00
bigmstoneYeah, but you'll be forced to cold migrate if you need to do maintenance on a server.19:00
bigmstoneWhich isn't the end of the world, but kind of a pain. Depending on what your SLAs are and how your maintenances are set up.19:00
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carnaleri now deeply wonder how rackspace could have lotsa vms running19:02
bigmstonecarnaler: kvm.19:02
bigmstoneIf I were a betting man.19:02
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paulczarrackspace are pretty open that they use Xen for their public cloud19:03
bigmstoneOh, well there you go.19:03
bigmstoneLikely older version of openstack/xen then.19:04
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paulczarI believe they keep openstack pretty close to head,  but also have a lot of their own special sauce involved19:04
bigmstoneThat's not surprising. They have the development overhead to do it.19:04
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gmicarnaler:http://www.slideshare.net/rackspace/xen-summit19:16
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unxmaalis there a correct way to clear fixed ips out of the compute database?19:17
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carnalergmi: thanks a lot!19:22
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carnalertranferring shift, see ya tomorrow guys19:44
carnalerThanks for your support!19:44
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JahkeupCan I associate a single vlan with a bridge in the q-ovs-agent config? I would like to do something like network_vlan_ranges=phys:122 instead of phys:122:122.20:53
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BobBallbigmstone: Just FYI, Rackspace added the "resize" functionality to OpenStack which works in all versions and will "warm-migrate" a server; actually as part of a reboot in the server but will move most of the data before the actual move itself.  RS are 100% Xen/XenServer for their public cloud21:07
BobBallbigmstone: and they do not use aggregates :)21:07
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prometheanfireah, not talking about live migration, but cold, or maybe warm21:09
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bigmstoneBobBall: So then we're REAL sure Xen support isn't going anywhere.21:16
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BobBallbigmstone: Well, sure, but I can also promise that Citrix is totally committed to the Xen support too :)21:17
bigmstoneThat's good. My fear was since they have CloudStack dev would get favored in that direction.21:18
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cfriesen I'm seeing strange behaviour with "nova evacuate".  If I start with an instance on compute1, then kill compute1 and evacuate to compute2, then kill compute2 and evacuate back to compute1 it seems to be failing a check in rebuild_instance() because it finds the old instance file on the disk at/var/lib/nova/instances/.   Is this a bug?  If not, what's the intended behaviour in this case?21:19
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BobBallbigmstone: XenServer and CloudStack are two different groups; CloudStack don't contribute to OpenStack but XenServer do and Citrix is committed to us continuing to do so :)21:20
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bigmstoneBobBall: Yeah. Ultimately it makes sense to do both. I'm typically in favor of the corporate decisions Citrix makes.21:24
bigmstoneLove how open source they are/21:24
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abonillaHi, when using swift as backend for glance, the maximum file size is 5GB? is that the size of the chunks or the actual file max size?21:27
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zradminI have a quantum issue where I can ping the router ip i create from the quantum services node, and when i run ip netns on it it shows all the ports etc available. If i run it on the nova-compute node however i get a blank list instead and nothing travels over the br-tun interface... has anyone else had a similar problem?22:05
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