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| taan | hi, open stack does not seem to install on debian *arm*, any hints how to go about that? | 06:24 |
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| taan | alternatively, how to create /etc/init.d/salt-minion start up script when installed from source? | 06:25 |
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| warren | anyone have jbryce's e-mail address? | 07:28 |
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| ntt_ | Hi. I have a problem with nova vnc console: "Failed to connect to server (error code 1006)". Someone can help me? | 07:44 |
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| ntt_ | which daemons should i run on the controller node? and which on the compute node? actually only nova-consoleauth runs on the controller. Is this correct? | 07:45 |
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| beddari | https://github.com/panicsteve/cloud-to-butt/issues/31 | 08:11 |
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| warren | o_O | 08:11 |
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| ntt_ | Hi. I have a problem with nova vnc console: "Failed to connect to server (error code 1006)". Someone can help me? | 08:14 |
| ntt_ | which daemons should i run on the controller node? and which on the compute node? actually only nova-consoleauth runs on the controller. Is this correct? | 08:14 |
| MACscr | beddari: lol | 08:14 |
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| smcavoy | Hi there. I am setting up regions in grizzly and am getting a 401 when I attempt to do a service-list with the second region. any ideas what the cause might be? The nova api reports only the get/401 response even in debug mode. I just want quantum/nova to be run in the region, everything else should reuse the main regions services:( | 08:41 |
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| ikex | Hello. Is there anyone here? :-) I need some help with floating public/external IPs. I'm using Grizzly on Debian and I cannot see IPs anywhere. I see (in horizon) that IP has been associated. And that's all. Should somewhere new iptables rules appear? Or should I see associated IP address on the compute node using `ip a s`? | 08:56 |
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| ikex | I see that on the network node quantum-rootwrap execs ip nets magic (I don't quite understand what is happening here). But... well... No worky. Also on the compute node I have no Internet connection. tcpdump says: 10.30.0.1 > 10.30.0.4: ICMP net 4.2.2.2 unreachable, length 92 | 08:58 |
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| ikex | Any help much appreciated. :-) | 08:59 |
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| mystogan | what would be the best way to understand internals of open stack at a code level | 09:07 |
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| beddari | mystogan: ? :) spend a lot of time with it, play with it, identify moving parts .. vagrant will be helpful | 09:25 |
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| mystogan | thanks <beddari> | 09:26 |
| beddari | mystogan: depending on how good you are at generally reverse engineering and reading code/concepts it will take a lot of time, or less time :) | 09:26 |
| krypto | nova list is showing no vms,but virsh is showing a running instance.What could be the reason for this | 09:26 |
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| beddari | mystogan: docs.openstack.org/developer/ :) | 09:26 |
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| beddari | mystogan: watch videos for a few days from the last summit -> https://www.openstack.org/summit/portland-2013/session-videos/ | 09:28 |
| mystogan | hmm I understand python syntax and I think I can do reverse engineering ...what I wanted to do was get to a point where I understand what data is being passed around between components .. | 09:28 |
| mystogan | apart from keeping an eye on the overall architecture | 09:28 |
| beddari | at that level you are at the dev documentation or even reading api code | 09:28 |
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| mystogan | beddari: Okay thanks for the input , appreciate it....Yes I have seen few of those videos ...they are very informative...but yeah will spend more time on those | 09:30 |
| beddari | mystogan: take notes while watching instead of sidetracking to do research every minute :) | 09:31 |
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| mystogan | yeah already started that ! | 09:31 |
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| marden_away | mystogan: maybe you want to install devstack, and start interacting with the openstack (--debug option or even curl requests). Then just eaither watch the logs or try to understand what classes/methods are called. | 09:33 |
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| marden | mystogan: running devstack results with a screen session with all the components running in a foreground, so you can actually see the DEBUG logs. | 09:34 |
| mystogan | marden_away: Thanks ! will do that | 09:35 |
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| marden | you may also want to try understanding the keystone, because this is the place where the client starts when it communicates with the cloud (it needs the token) | 09:36 |
| mystogan | also I have a stupid question to ask...would it make sense to have access to an open cloud to learn openstack or doing the experiments on my laptop would suffice | 09:36 |
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| marden | devstack may probably be a good starting point, I guess. if you break things you can just start with a fresh openstack installation. Take a look at: http://devstack.org/ | 09:37 |
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| beddari | I'd add vagrant to that, for flavour ;) | 09:38 |
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| mystogan | Will look into both of them | 09:39 |
| beddari | mystogan: http://anteaya.info/blog/2013/09/01/installing-devstack-with-vagrant/ | 09:39 |
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| mystogan | Thanks beddari & marden | 09:41 |
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| mystogan | Let me get started , will come back for more questions... | 09:42 |
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| reidrac | just voted on the OpenStack Technical Committee election | 10:19 |
| reidrac | if you got a mail about that, please vote :) | 10:19 |
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| rushiagr | reidrac: done! \o/ | 10:25 |
| reidrac | excellent! :) | 10:25 |
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| rushiagr | Zyroo: sorry, no expertise there | 13:15 |
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| Zyroo | rushiagr: Okay np i can wait My question is actually about the account id to view contents in browser :) | 13:17 |
| Zyroo | sombody else maybe can clear my way | 13:17 |
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| badams_ | does anyone have any listing of images to use for testing besides cirros? with cloud-init preinstalled, etc? | 13:39 |
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| RaviTezu | Oct 11 06:44:14 machine01 abrt: detected unhandled Python exception in '/usr/bin/glance-registry' | 13:47 |
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| reidrac | sebaridolfi, the best you can do is go through the changelog | 14:03 |
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| reidrac | in my experience upgrades go smoothly, but you may need to update your conf adding/removing flags | 14:04 |
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| sebaridolfi | reidrac, thanks! i've already read the changelog. but because it is really critical and we have some modifications of our own I need to be sure and prevent anything that could happen | 14:09 |
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| reidrac | I've been upgrading since Bexar, with few local patches (auth, accounting) and so far so good! | 14:10 |
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| terje | hi all, I have a question that I need help with. | 15:07 |
| terje | I've asked it on ask.openstack.org but haven't gotten a response yet, so was hoping someone here might have some insight: https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/5878/specify-a-serialconsole-pty-in-nova/ | 15:07 |
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| Zyroo | Hello anyone can help me out with swauth | 15:31 |
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| badams_ | does anyone have any centos images to use for testing? with cloud-init preinstalled, etc? | 15:41 |
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| marden | badams_: hm, how about making your own custom snapshot with cloud-init preinstalled? | 15:48 |
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| badams_ | marden: that's what i've moved on to, yeah. any good guides on that you know? | 16:05 |
| beav | my instances have been getting 404s when curling http://169.254.169.254/latest/user-data, i see the 404 in api.log, but i'm not sure how to fix it | 16:06 |
| beav | i dont think they're able to get any other data either, i see a lot of 404 errors in the console | 16:06 |
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| marden | badams_: what guides you mean? Just boot a fres centos machine, install cloud-init, check if it works and freeze it by making a snapshot with nova image create (check nova help image-create for details) | 16:09 |
| marden | badams_: s/fres/fresh/ | 16:09 |
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| badams_ | marden: basically that, thanks | 16:10 |
| marden | badams_: worked for me many times :-) | 16:10 |
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| comptona | badams_: oz-image-build (https://github.com/rackerjoe/oz-image-build) knows how to build centos images; that's what I use | 16:17 |
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| japplewhite | question: is this a bug? I boot an instance. attach a volume in horizon. tell it to attach at the path /dev/vdc as suggest. go in the vm and see the volume has taken the path /dev/vdb | 16:20 |
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| jpich | japplewhite: That sounds like one alright, or it's not an intuitive behaviour at all. Can you see in the logs if Horizon sends the correct info via the cinderclient, or if it's ignoring user input from the start? | 16:21 |
| japplewhite | haven't looked, but I will | 16:22 |
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| japplewhite | I may log a bug on this with details. in horizon or nova though? | 16:23 |
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| jpich | japplewhite: Can you try reproducing the bug using the command line client? That's usually a good indicator as to whether something should be filed against horizon or another component | 16:24 |
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| RaviTezu | "cannot resolve relative uri 'config:api-paste.ini'; no relative_to keyword argument given 2013-10-11 21:59:02.927 20251 TRACE nova" can someone help? I'm unable to start openstack-nova-api service. | 16:30 |
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| mdorman | we're seeing an issue where, with admin credentials, 'glance image-list' works, but 'nova image-list' does not. trying to understand the relationship between those two, and how nova gets the info from glance. | 16:37 |
| mdorman | can anyone help shed some light on this? | 16:37 |
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| thebloggu | i'm following this (http://openstack.redhat.com/Running_an_instance) guide to create a VM and SSH into it without password but i just get password denied. can someone help me? | 16:44 |
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| Kupo24z | hey all, using havana RC1. Where is the 'load balancer as a service' from the UI? | 16:46 |
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| badams_ | comptona: i've seen that, and it wont seem to work for me | 16:56 |
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| comptona | badams_: in what way does it not work? | 16:56 |
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| badams_ | comptona: after installing all dependencies and starting it up, i get this output: http://paste.openstack.org/show/48293/ | 16:58 |
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| badams_ | comptona: i'm doing this all on my control node so i can upload the result straight to glance | 17:01 |
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| comptona | badams_: oz actually starts a virtual machine to do the install with libvirt; do you have that installed on your control node? | 17:03 |
| comptona | if not, install oz-image-build on a compute node and run it there | 17:03 |
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| badams_ | comptona: i figured it was something like that, and no i dont. doing it now though | 17:03 |
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| badams_ | comptona: ok actually i do | 17:05 |
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| m4nu | Does anyone on here have a working GRE setup, and if so, would you mind doing an ovs-vsctl show and placing it somewhere in a pastebin? I'm having trouble getting GRE tunnel networking working (I've been able to setup VLAN-based networking several times before) | 17:25 |
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| m4nu | Setup is: Grizzly - 1 cloud controller node (networking, horizon, compute), 2 compute nodes (compute + quantum w/ GRE tunneling) | 17:26 |
| Kupo24z | should you be able to upgrade from RC1 to Release with Havana on the 17th? | 17:29 |
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| badams_ | m4nu: this is my from my netnode: http://paste.openstack.org/show/48295/ | 17:36 |
| badams_ | m4nu: ignore the br-eth1 bridge, it was a mistake i never took out | 17:37 |
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| m4nu | badams_: thanks! | 17:38 |
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| m4nu | badams_: hmm, my setup matches yours (or seems to)... but my VMs on the compute nodes can't get DHCP addresses or see the rest of the network... :/ | 17:38 |
| m4nu | badams_: VMs on the cloud controller (compute + network) have no problem getting DHCP addresses and routing packets to the Internet. | 17:39 |
| m4nu | badams_: could the issue be overzealous firewall rules? | 17:39 |
| badams_ | m4nu: you could do some tcpdumping to check out how far the packets are going, you know? | 17:40 |
| badams_ | m4nu: my set up required no tinkering with the firewall | 17:41 |
| m4nu | badams_: yeah, already did that... they're going as far as the br-tun device. | 17:41 |
| badams_ | m4nu: hmmm | 17:41 |
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| m4nu | badams_: well, I just took down all firewall rules, still have the same problem. Is there any way that you know of of debugging the gre tunnels? To see if packets can get routed through the tunnel? | 17:42 |
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| m4nu | badams_: do your compute nodes have ip netns output? That is, do they have any entries when you do 'ip netns' (mine have output for the network node, but not the compute nodes) | 17:42 |
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| badams_ | m4nu: i do not. you've tried tcpdumping within the namespaces of your router? | 17:43 |
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| m4nu | badams_: yeah, nothing is getting through from the compute nodes... no DHCP requests. | 17:44 |
| m4nu | badams_: here's my ovs-vsctl show - http://paste.openstack.org/show/6TzGb3j5qsgs1fgDXBOz/ | 17:44 |
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| m4nu | seems like GRE tunnels are setup correctly... I can ping 1.1.1.1 from 1.1.1.3 etc... so, connectivity seems to be working between each node. | 17:44 |
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| badams_ | m4nu: missed one up there. i experience the same ip netns behavior on my nodes. the router lives on the netnode, and the networks are created there | 17:50 |
| badams_ | AFAIK | 17:50 |
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| badams_ | m4nu: and i am far from an expert on this stuff, i got it working with some help myself | 17:52 |
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| m4nu | badams_: I've gotten this stuff working before w/ VLAN... Essex, Folsom... with lots of effort and pain... thought I'd try GRE networking this time around and am having a horrible time w/ it. | 17:53 |
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| m4nu | badams_: How many physical ethernet devices do you have in your compute nodes? I have 2... one for the management network, one for the GRE network. | 17:53 |
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| badams_ | m4nu: i have 3 nodes in my set up. one is my control node (nic 1 public, nic 2 management), a combined network/compute (nic 1 public, nic 2 management), and a compute (one nic for management) | 17:55 |
| badams_ | m4nu: kind of odd but my resources dictated it | 17:55 |
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| m4nu | badams_: ... and that one nic for management is running GRE tunnels? | 17:55 |
| badams_ | m4nu: yup | 17:55 |
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| badams_ | m4nu: and beyond the initial set up i've had no issues | 17:56 |
| m4nu | badams_: hmm :/ wondering if I should just try running GRE tunnels over the management network. | 17:56 |
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| jzwiep | Does openstack support multiple monitors on VMs? | 17:56 |
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| badams_ | m4nu: yeah i'm not sure its ideal but it works fine for my small set up | 17:57 |
| m4nu | badams_: Do you know of any tools to debug GRE tunnels? I'm getting no errors in my logs... | 17:57 |
| m4nu | badams_: meaning, it's probably not a kernel issue, it's probably not a tool issue, no errors... kinda out of ideas of where to look. | 17:57 |
| badams_ | m4nu: no i dont, sorry. | 17:58 |
| badams_ | m4nu: you may want to check out the kernel angle though, i had some issues with that | 17:58 |
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| m4nu | badams_: I'm running 2.6.32-358.118.1.openstack.el6.x86_64 ... which seems to have the proper OpenVSwitch module installed | 17:59 |
| badams_ | m4nu: that looks like centos, yeah? | 17:59 |
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| m4nu | badams_: yeah | 18:00 |
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| badams_ | m4nu: i didnt move as far with centos as i have with ubuntu, but maybe check if all th necessary daemons are running | 18:01 |
| badams_ | m4nu: im just spitballing now | 18:01 |
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| m4nu | badams_: yeah, checked the daemons, they're all up... all services are up... | 18:01 |
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| m4nu | badams_: This is the first time trying to set this stuff up on CentOS, set it up on Ubuntu previously... | 18:02 |
| dexter|24x7 | badams_: what version of openvswitch do you have | 18:02 |
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| m4nu | badams_: alright, well, you helped me eliminate a couple of variables, so much appreciated for that... thanks :) | 18:02 |
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| badams_ | m4nu: sure thing | 18:02 |
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| badams_ | dexter|24x7: ovs-vsctl (Open vSwitch) 1.4.0+build0 | 18:04 |
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| badams_ | dexter_j: oops, there you are. ovs-vsctl (Open vSwitch) 1.4.0+build0 | 18:06 |
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| krypto | dhcp agent is running but there is no service on port 67,what can be the issue,any body? | 18:10 |
| dexter_j | bad are you seeing traffic on the tunnel interface? | 18:10 |
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| Kupo24z | what are avaliblity zones used for? | 18:10 |
| dexter_j | badams_: ^^ | 18:10 |
| japplewhite | jpich: yes I will try that thanks | 18:10 |
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| badams_ | dexter_j; you mean the gre tunnels? or the internal tunnels? i dont know how to look at traffic on the gre tunnels, but you can tcpdump the internal ones using the proper namespace | 18:12 |
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| dexter_j | badams_: are you working on a multinode system? | 18:14 |
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| badams_ | dexter_j: yup | 18:14 |
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| badams_ | dexter_j: 3 nodes | 18:15 |
| dexter_j | and the gre tunnels traviling over a private network, or everything on 1 | 18:15 |
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| badams_ | dexter_j: gre tunnels on my management network | 18:16 |
| badams_ | dexter_j: public network separate | 18:16 |
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| pbryan_ | Has anyone experienced issue where an instance reads zeros for files in a sparsely allocated block device? | 18:18 |
| m4nu | badams_: any chance you could tell me what your setup says for this command: modinfo openvswitch | 18:18 |
| pbryan_ | (Where the file should contail actual data?) | 18:18 |
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| badams_ | m4nu: netnode http://paste.openstack.org/show/48302/ | 18:19 |
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| m4nu | badams_: blerg... here's my output - http://paste.openstack.org/show/Ca8UFmsmPFYpQW7UKLMl/ strange... thankx | 18:21 |
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| dexter_j | badams_: if you to a tcpdump on you management interface you shuold be able to see a header like the one here http://paste.openstack.org/show/48304/ | 18:22 |
| dexter_j | this was taken from a vm starting up | 18:22 |
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| badams_ | dexter_j: so what are you asking me here? | 18:25 |
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| dexter_j | are you seeing any gre headers on your managment interface? | 18:27 |
| dexter_j | badams_: ^^ | 18:27 |
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| badams_ | dexter_j: cant seem to find them right now but i know they're there | 18:34 |
| badams_ | dexter_j: why? | 18:34 |
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| badams_ | dexter_j: nope, there they are | 18:36 |
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| monst | is there a way to import and instance disk file back into another openstack environment | 18:40 |
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| dexter_j | badams_: thats saying that you are getting gre tunnels over you management network | 18:40 |
| monst | I tried to glance import the disk file to to my other environment. but want I launch an instance off the image it errors | 18:41 |
| dexter_j | badams_: so you can focus on the internal bridges now | 18:41 |
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| badams_ | dexter_j: i know... i set it up that way | 18:41 |
| badams_ | dexter_j: i think you're trying to help someone else | 18:41 |
| badams_ | maybe | 18:41 |
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| KaZeR_ | i'm trying to block-migrate an instance from a compute node to another (i did it successfully before with 2 other instances) but it fails : http://bpaste.net/show/Hfc1dXP15lJeM2ASGlxC/ | 19:27 |
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| Bada | Hi guys, i was wondering if it was possible 2 have to floating IP linked to two different ext network on a single instance ? | 20:13 |
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| Bada | (sorry) to have two floating IP | 20:13 |
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| m4nu | dexter_j: hey, I was the person having issues w/ GRE tunnels... not badams_ | 20:18 |
| m4nu | dexter_j: I am not seeing any GRE packets coming over when I tcpdump | 20:19 |
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| dtx00ff | @Bada should be possible, btw you misplaced '2' and 'to' in the question ;) | 20:20 |
| m4nu | dexter_j: I've checked the management interface (eth0) as well as the interface that is connected to the switch dedicated to VM traffic/GRE tunnels (eth1) | 20:20 |
| dtx00ff | your instances would have two interfaces. although if they are talking to each other through these interfaces, then take care about assymetric routing and add proper routes as the part of metadata. | 20:21 |
| dtx00ff | or cloud_init if that's what youa re using | 20:21 |
| m4nu | dexter_j: I'm setting this stack up on CentOS 6.4, Grizzly, I've double-checked to make sure the hypervisors are using the correct kernel w/ the compiled-from-source openvswitch kernel modules (1.10.0) | 20:22 |
| dtx00ff | @m4nu tcpdump on what? the VM, the HV or the sender? | 20:22 |
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| m4nu | dexter_j: ovs-vsctl shows that there are GRE tunnels setup on the br-tun bridge - Port "gre-1" Interface "gre-1" type: gre options: {in_key=flow, out_key=flow, remote_ip="1.1.1.1"} | 20:23 |
| m4nu | dtx00ff: tcpdump on the HV | 20:23 |
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| dtx00ff | did you try a ovs-dpctl dump-flows? | 20:23 |
| m4nu | dtx00ff: tcpdump on the HV shows ARP requests on br-int... and on br-tun | 20:23 |
| m4nu | dtx00ff: nope, don't know what that does, I'll try it now. | 20:24 |
| dtx00ff | ping from the VM to w/e and dump the flows on the HV | 20:24 |
| dtx00ff | you should see the traffic flow with src and dest details | 20:24 |
| dtx00ff | this is a datapath issue, so manage flows with dpctl daemon, vsctl wont help much. | 20:24 |
| m4nu | dtx00ff: "w/e" <-- what's that? | 20:25 |
| dtx00ff | whatever* | 20:25 |
| m4nu | dtx00ff: oh, haha, ok | 20:25 |
| m4nu | pinging now. | 20:25 |
| m4nu | dtx00ff: [root@os-compute-2 ~]# ovs-dpctl dump-flows | 20:25 |
| m4nu | in_port(3),eth(src=fa:16:3e:3b:04:8f,dst=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff),eth_type(0x0806),arp(sip=2.2.2.10,tip=2.2.2.9,op=1,sha=fa:16:3e:3b:04:8f,tha=00:00:00:00:00:00), packets:627, bytes:26334, used:0.616s, actions:2,1 | 20:25 |
| dtx00ff | now do a ovs-dpctl show | 20:26 |
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| dtx00ff | and check the corresponding port numebrs with in_port(X) and actions:Y values. | 20:26 |
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| m4nu | dtx00ff: http://paste.openstack.org/show/xJeW8wZQojjDDWyY3u1e/ | 20:27 |
| dtx00ff | is 2.2.2.10 your VM? | 20:27 |
| m4nu | checking | 20:27 |
| m4nu | dtx00ff: yes, 2.2.2.10 is the VM | 20:27 |
| dtx00ff | look at the flow you pasterd | 20:27 |
| dtx00ff | up here | 20:27 |
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| dtx00ff | sip is your VM | 20:27 |
| dtx00ff | and the tip is prolly what you are pinging | 20:27 |
| dtx00ff | so the packets are flowing | 20:27 |
| m4nu | it is | 20:27 |
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| dtx00ff | mouse disable | 20:28 |
| dtx00ff | my bad | 20:28 |
| m4nu | dtx00ff: flowing to where? I can't see them on any of the other HVs... | 20:28 |
| m4nu | dtx00ff: I guess what I'm asking, is where is the next place the packet could get clobbered? | 20:28 |
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| dtx00ff | what is port-3 you in the sent in the paste URL? | 20:29 |
| m4nu | dtx00ff: That's the VM port, I think. | 20:29 |
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| dtx00ff | you see the packets are coming in (in_port) from that port and going to both br-tun and br-int | 20:30 |
| dtx00ff | so | 20:30 |
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| m4nu | dtx00ff: tcpdump -n -i qvo1c2976a4-f0 shows 16:30:33.006712 ARP, Request who-has 2.2.2.9 tell 2.2.2.10, length 28 | 20:30 |
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| dtx00ff | thats an ARP request | 20:31 |
| m4nu | dtx00ff: yes, correct. | 20:31 |
| dtx00ff | can the HV pint .9 | 20:31 |
| dtx00ff | ping | 20:31 |
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| m4nu | dtx00ff: yes | 20:32 |
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| dtx00ff | dump-flows must show another entry with tip as your VM | 20:32 |
| dtx00ff | if not then the destination (.9 in this case) has some issue since the packets are flowing out of the machine in a proper manner | 20:33 |
| dtx00ff | tip = target IP, not tip | 20:33 |
| m4nu | dtx00ff: wait a second... no... it is ping'ing 2.2.2.9 - but it's going out to the net... I shouldn't have used a public IP for the openstack subnet. | 20:34 |
| dtx00ff | i dont follow | 20:34 |
| m4nu | dtx00ff: in other words, it's getting a response from 2.2.2.9, but only because it's being routed to the public Internet. | 20:34 |
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| dtx00ff | hmm | 20:35 |
| m4nu | dtx00ff: There is no route on the HV to 2.2.2.x, it's using the default route, which goes out to the Internet. 2.2.2.2 is a publicly routable address. | 20:35 |
| m4nu | dtx00ff: should there be a route to 2.2.2.0 subnet? if so, should it go to br-tun as the device? | 20:35 |
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| dtx00ff | yes, before going to your public facing IP, it does an ARP so, if you have a 2.2.2.9 on the same subnet, that shoudl respond. | 20:36 |
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| m4nu | dtx00ff: right, but the VM is not getting a response to the ARP | 20:37 |
| m4nu | dtx00ff: probably because the GRE tunnels are messed up in some way | 20:37 |
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| m4nu | dtx00ff: but I can't figure out how to figure out where or how the GRE tunnels are misconfigured. | 20:37 |
| m4nu | dtx00ff: keep in mind that I'm on CentOS 6.4, and Grizzly, so I had to compile openvswitch (0.10.0) and the kernel module after installing the standard kernel (because it doesn't have GRE tunneling for openvswitch enabled by default) | 20:38 |
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| dtx00ff | there are multiple ways you can do it. send out packets check if that's routing fine, send in packets to 2.2.2.10 (your VM) and dump-flows in the HV and make sure that you see action:3 in the output (since your VM is on port 3) | 20:39 |
| m4nu | dtx00ff: I don't really know how to check to see if the kernel module is working correctly, other than looking for 'gre protocol not supported' errors when the quantum-openvswitch-agent starts up. | 20:39 |
| dtx00ff | what this means is that your VM and HV are behaving good | 20:39 |
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| m4nu | dtx00ff: send in packets from where? The HV? or another HV that is supposed to be GRE'd together? | 20:40 |
| dtx00ff | then you check the same on destination. if that is working fine, then you can assume kermel module issues. | 20:40 |
| dtx00ff | who is controlling your GRE tunnels? | 20:40 |
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| dtx00ff | tunnels are between HVs i presume. | 20:40 |
| m4nu | dtx00ff: quantum-openvswitch-agent is. | 20:41 |
| m4nu | dtx00ff: yes | 20:41 |
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| dtx00ff | yeah so do the above experiment on both the src and dest. if they are sending and receiving the packets well, then you can go ahead and debug the control plane | 20:41 |
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| dtx00ff | ususally the issue lies in the data plane | 20:42 |
| dtx00ff | i cant really help much from here, but hope you get the idea | 20:42 |
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| dtx00ff | anyways, i gotta take care of some things. hope you sort it out. have fun! | 20:43 |
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| m4nu | dtx00ff: thx for your help! | 20:44 |
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| dtx00ff | yw | 20:44 |
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| riceandbeans | is openstack basically comparable to vmware? | 21:15 |
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| Ryan_Lane | riceandbeans: well, it manages virtual machines | 21:28 |
| Ryan_Lane | but it's more meant as a self-service infrastructure, whereas vmware tends to be administrator managed | 21:28 |
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| Ryan_Lane | openstack also has way fewer HA options | 21:28 |
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| riceandbeans | Ryan_Lane: is it more akin to xen then, like amazon with their implementation of xen? | 21:30 |
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| Ryan_Lane | riceandbeans: it's relatively comparable to AWS | 21:31 |
| Ryan_Lane | but one you can run yourself | 21:31 |
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| riceandbeans | Ryan_Lane: so is it NOT xen? | 21:32 |
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| Ryan_Lane | riceandbeans: it can use xen, kvm, hyperv, and esx as hypervisors | 21:42 |
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| Ryan_Lane | that's OpenStack nova, specifically | 21:42 |
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| Ryan_Lane | there's also networking services, storage services, dns services, load balancing services, database services, etc. etc. | 21:42 |
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| SlickNik | hey guys | 22:03 |
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| SlickNik | quick question | 22:03 |
| SlickNik | is there a way to add a host to an aggregate before the host is known to nova? | 22:04 |
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| SlickNik | I want to set an aggregate based on a hostname, but nova-compute hasn't been run on the host, so nova doesn't know about the host yet. | 22:04 |
| SlickNik | Thanks in advance for your help! | 22:05 |
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| riceandbeans | Ryan_Lane: I'm confused as to what it actually is then | 22:11 |
| riceandbeans | you make it sound like a frontend to multiple hypervisors | 22:11 |
| Ryan_Lane | it is | 22:12 |
| Ryan_Lane | it's mostly a set of APIs and middleware | 22:12 |
| riceandbeans | so then...why does it call itself an operating system when it's just an overlay | 22:12 |
| riceandbeans | a webui on top of a number of backends | 22:12 |
| Ryan_Lane | the webui is called horizon | 22:13 |
| Ryan_Lane | it's a part of openstack | 22:13 |
| riceandbeans | it's misleading to someone hearing the name and trying to figure out what exactly it is | 22:13 |
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| Ryan_Lane | so, nova - the compute service, exposes an API | 22:13 |
| riceandbeans | but it's a hypervisor agnostic tool that provides a front end to different hypervisors | 22:13 |
| Ryan_Lane | you say "create a virtual machine for me" and it creates one | 22:13 |
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| Ryan_Lane | it also talks to the networking service to allocate an IP address for the instance | 22:14 |
| Ryan_Lane | (instance = virtual machine) | 22:14 |
| riceandbeans | yes | 22:14 |
| Ryan_Lane | but it's more than just the compute service | 22:14 |
| riceandbeans | Ryan_Lane: why not use dhcp for that? | 22:14 |
| Ryan_Lane | there's also a network service (neutron) | 22:14 |
| Ryan_Lane | it does use dhcp | 22:14 |
| Ryan_Lane | the networking service runs dnsmasq | 22:14 |
| Ryan_Lane | but you create a network in the networking service and it manages the IP address allocation and such | 22:15 |
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| riceandbeans | call me crazy but I'm failing to see the usefulness | 22:15 |
| Ryan_Lane | there's also a block storage service, that allocates storage on storage servers and makes it available to the compute service | 22:15 |
| Ryan_Lane | vsphere does the same thing... | 22:16 |
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| Ryan_Lane | it's a set of middleware on top of hypervisors (esxi) | 22:16 |
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| riceandbeans | so it's exactly like esxi's vsphere, but hypervisor agnostic | 22:16 |
| Ryan_Lane | not exactly | 22:16 |
| riceandbeans | but most hypervisors have a set of tools already you can use | 22:16 |
| riceandbeans | from virtualbox to xen to qemu to esx | 22:17 |
| riceandbeans | I don't know MS to say | 22:17 |
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| riceandbeans | I'm really not trying to troll so please don't get that idea | 22:17 |
| Ryan_Lane | openstack, like AWS, has a set of APIs that lets regular users manage resources | 22:17 |
| riceandbeans | I really want to understand the hype | 22:17 |
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| riceandbeans | so it enables users to use auth and a rest api to manage VMs? | 22:18 |
| Ryan_Lane | so, I can be a member of an openstack project and be able to create instances, set up firewall rules, manage floating IPs, allocate block storage, etc.. | 22:18 |
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| Ryan_Lane | and storage, and networking, and dns, and databases, and other things | 22:19 |
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| Ryan_Lane | depending on which openstack services you use | 22:19 |
| pedro_r_marques | rice: it becomes a nice tool when you have multiple users trying to use compute resources | 22:19 |
| pedro_r_marques | You can build the physical infra... and then just let users comsume "compute, storage, network" | 22:19 |
| riceandbeans | are there parts that are entirely free? | 22:19 |
| riceandbeans | and what language is all this in? | 22:19 |
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| Ryan_Lane | all of them are free | 22:19 |
| Ryan_Lane | apache licensed. written in python. | 22:20 |
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| riceandbeans | considering how heavy python my company is, they'll likely appeal to that | 22:20 |
| Ryan_Lane | Wikimedia foundation (Wikipedia, Wikidata, Wikivoyage, etc) is using it to allow volunteers to build infrastructure, puppetize it, and have it pushed into production | 22:20 |
| riceandbeans | Ryan_Lane: I've heard of it's use with puppet...and I'mbuilding out some puppet right now...and I've never touched openstack before... | 22:21 |
| Ryan_Lane | well, puppet doesn't really have much to do with openstack | 22:21 |
| Ryan_Lane | we're using openstack to let people build infrastructure | 22:21 |
| Ryan_Lane | they formalize it using puppet | 22:21 |
| Ryan_Lane | then we code review the puppet code | 22:22 |
| Ryan_Lane | if your org likes python, you should consider saltstack over puppet | 22:22 |
| Ryan_Lane | but that's a different discussion altogether | 22:22 |
| mgw | +1 for Salt | 22:22 |
| Ryan_Lane | anyway, openstack is a set of middleware that lets users manage their own infrastructures | 22:23 |
| Ryan_Lane | which is why it's called a cloud operating system | 22:23 |
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| riceandbeans | I don't like python and I'd be the one having to do the puppet, and I'm a ruby/perl guy, so I like puppet :) | 22:24 |
| Ryan_Lane | heh | 22:24 |
| riceandbeans | and salt, from my reading, seems very different | 22:24 |
| riceandbeans | it seems to be based entirely around ssh | 22:24 |
| Ryan_Lane | salt is 0mq based | 22:24 |
| Ryan_Lane | it's config management (like puppet), remote execution (like mcollective, but much better) and orchestration | 22:24 |
| riceandbeans | something I read basically said that it sends commands in ssh tunnels | 22:25 |
| Ryan_Lane | that's ansible | 22:25 |
| riceandbeans | oops, my mixup | 22:25 |
| Ryan_Lane | salt publishes to 0mq and minions subscribe to the queue | 22:25 |
| riceandbeans | to be clear, ansible is python too, correct? | 22:25 |
| Ryan_Lane | anyway, wrong channel for that topic :) (that would be #salt) | 22:25 |
| Ryan_Lane | yep | 22:25 |
| riceandbeans | ok | 22:25 |
| riceandbeans | anyway | 22:25 |
| riceandbeans | let me put it this way | 22:26 |
| riceandbeans | if we pay for vsphere and aws, is there any reason to use openstack? | 22:26 |
| Ryan_Lane | depends on how you use vsphere | 22:26 |
| riceandbeans | extensively | 22:27 |
| riceandbeans | lots of licenses involved | 22:27 |
| Ryan_Lane | if you rely heavily on the HA portions openstack probably isn't for you | 22:27 |
| riceandbeans | we have a lot of redundancy set up for all aspects of the VMs | 22:27 |
| riceandbeans | storage, networks, hosts... | 22:27 |
| Ryan_Lane | openstack assumes you operate on the "cloud model" where instances are considered ephemeral (they can die unexpectedly at any point) | 22:28 |
| riceandbeans | why would you want to operate with no uptime guarantee? | 22:28 |
| Ryan_Lane | your application is meant to be designed in a way that can survive a single instance failure | 22:28 |
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| Ryan_Lane | you make your own uptime and don't depend on the infrastructure for doing so | 22:29 |
| riceandbeans | but with the risk of crashing VMs? | 22:29 |
| Ryan_Lane | well, the risk of a compute node dying | 22:29 |
| Ryan_Lane | which will bring down the instances running on it | 22:29 |
| Ryan_Lane | vsphere has things like shadow vms that will automatically take over in case of failure. you won't get stuff like that in openstack | 22:30 |
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| Qlawy | yet | 22:30 |
| Ryan_Lane | openstack also won't automatically restart instances on other nodes. your instances will just be dead | 22:30 |
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| Qlawy | perhaps heat will do this | 22:30 |
| Ryan_Lane | heat can't do that | 22:30 |
| Ryan_Lane | nova would need to | 22:30 |
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| Qlawy | HA? | 22:30 |
| Ryan_Lane | because it would need to constantly sync memory contents | 22:30 |
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| Qlawy | hmm, anyways I read nice article comparising vmware ESX/vCenter to OpenStack | 22:31 |
| Ryan_Lane | when I say a shadow vm, I mean it does a constant live-migration like activity | 22:31 |
| riceandbeans | so openstack is good if you can't afford vsphere or don't care about uptime? | 22:31 |
| Qlawy | i know vmware is hypervisor, and openstack is hmm… sth on higher lvl | 22:31 |
| Qlawy | but comparison is pretty nice | 22:31 |
| dsockwell | > don't care about more uptime than bare metal | 22:31 |
| riceandbeans | is it mostly designed around QA and dev? | 22:32 |
| Ryan_Lane | riceandbeans: lots of people use AWS with really good uptime | 22:32 |
| Ryan_Lane | and AWS has the same model | 22:32 |
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| riceandbeans | would you run production on openstack? | 22:32 |
| dsockwell | riceandbeans: it's designed for things like hadoop where a worker can die and have its load reassigned | 22:32 |
| Qlawy | riceandbeans: ofc | 22:32 |
| riceandbeans | ofc? | 22:32 |
| Ryan_Lane | if your app can't withstand a vm failure, you designed your app poorly | 22:32 |
| Qlawy | ofcourse | 22:32 |
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| Ryan_Lane | riceandbeans: lots of people run production on openstack | 22:32 |
| riceandbeans | Ryan_Lane: would you call all services on one VM poor design? | 22:32 |
| Qlawy | riceandbeans: bad as hell | 22:33 |
| Ryan_Lane | http://www.webplatform.org/ <-- runs on hp cloud, which is openstack | 22:33 |
| dsockwell | pretty bad, yeah | 22:33 |
| Qlawy | riceandbeans: I know some production environament with more than 10k compute nodes on openstack | 22:33 |
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| Ryan_Lane | http://tools.wmflabs.org/ <-- runs on openstack | 22:33 |
| dsockwell | doesn't ebay also run on openstack? | 22:34 |
| dsockwell | reddit runs on aws | 22:34 |
| Ryan_Lane | yep | 22:34 |
| riceandbeans | so if I took my AWS systems out, put openstack in my colo, and ran everything out of there, would it save money? | 22:34 |
| Ryan_Lane | and paypal | 22:34 |
| Ryan_Lane | and NSA :D | 22:34 |
| riceandbeans | Ryan_Lane: I no longer like your product | 22:34 |
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| Ryan_Lane | hahaha | 22:34 |
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| dsockwell | hahahaha | 22:34 |
| Ryan_Lane | riceandbeans: it's open source, we can't control who uses it | 22:34 |
| Ryan_Lane | NSA uses linux too ;) | 22:34 |
| Qlawy | riceandbeans: hah, you want to jump from IaaS to lower lvl? gl | 22:34 |
| Ryan_Lane | riceandbeans: so, it *could* save you money | 22:35 |
| riceandbeans | Ryan_Lane: I don't think they do | 22:35 |
| Ryan_Lane | riceandbeans: NSA wrote SELinux | 22:35 |
| dsockwell | what? how could they not | 22:35 |
| riceandbeans | I think they tried to study the kernel to gain trust and inject code into it | 22:35 |
| riceandbeans | they also did FLASK | 22:35 |
| riceandbeans | doesn't mean I trust what they wrote | 22:35 |
| dsockwell | this isn't about the NSA, anyway | 22:35 |
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| Qlawy | yeah... conspiracy theories... | 22:35 |
| riceandbeans | I don't trust Rijndael either | 22:36 |
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| Qlawy | lets focus on issue | 22:36 |
| dsockwell | openstack implies linux so if you don't like linux then you have big problems | 22:36 |
| dsockwell | also i have bad news about vmware | 22:36 |
| Ryan_Lane | riceandbeans: you're likely to save money by running your own openstack and dropping vmware | 22:36 |
| riceandbeans | twofish, serpent, threefish | 22:36 |
| Ryan_Lane | but you'll lose functionality | 22:36 |
| Qlawy | some | 22:36 |
| Ryan_Lane | you're unlikely to save money by dropping AWS | 22:36 |
| Qlawy | but he will get some new one | 22:36 |
| riceandbeans | dsockwell: I iike linux, I've been running debian since version 3.0 | 22:36 |
| Ryan_Lane | Qlawy: indeed | 22:36 |
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| riceandbeans | dsockwell: I don't trust NSA contributions | 22:36 |
| Ryan_Lane | I find openstack to be *insanely* better than vmware for my use case | 22:37 |
| riceandbeans | dsockwell: so I don't use them | 22:37 |
| riceandbeans | Ryan_Lane: why | 22:37 |
| dsockwell | here i am continuing a discussion i tried to stop | 22:37 |
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| Qlawy | but still, openstack is sth different from vmware | 22:37 |
| Ryan_Lane | my use case is to let random people from the internet to change our production infrastructure | 22:37 |
| Ryan_Lane | (a top 5 site) | 22:37 |
| riceandbeans | top 5 site? | 22:37 |
| Ryan_Lane | Wikipedia | 22:37 |
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| Ryan_Lane | so, we let people create free accounts, ask for a project, then let them create virtual machines, formalize their infrastructure, push the changes in for review and have them pushed out to the production site | 22:38 |
| Ryan_Lane | openstack let's me let them manage their projects like a community | 22:39 |
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| Ryan_Lane | I don't need to manage their vms, or the access to their projects | 22:39 |
| riceandbeans | for a software development company, how would that be beneficial? | 22:39 |
| Ryan_Lane | they could use the same model | 22:39 |
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| Qlawy | riceandbeans: do you have admin with knowledge about openstack? | 22:40 |
| Ryan_Lane | in fact, I think wikimedia labs is a perfect example of how to eliminate ops as a bottleneck | 22:40 |
| Ryan_Lane | you could allow your developers to make infrastructure changes when their work is being blocked by operations | 22:40 |
| dsockwell | anyway riceandbeans if your application relies on vmware's strong HA then you'd need to reengineer that dependency out for openstack to have the same failure tolerance. end of story. | 22:40 |
| Ryan_Lane | to let them unblock themselves | 22:40 |
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| dsockwell | if you're on aws then you already tolerate the risk of downtime | 22:40 |
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| riceandbeans | what ops? everyone works in their own chroot before committing to a VCS and passing build tests and merging deeper | 22:41 |
| Ryan_Lane | developers manage all infrastructure? | 22:41 |
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| riceandbeans | Ryan_Lane: much of it | 22:42 |
| Ryan_Lane | so if someone wanted to use cassandra, they'd just install it and start using it? | 22:42 |
| riceandbeans | they don't make very good sysadmins | 22:42 |
| riceandbeans | don't tell them I said that though | 22:43 |
| riceandbeans | Ryan_Lane: yes | 22:43 |
| Ryan_Lane | that's terrifying :) | 22:43 |
| riceandbeans | you're tellin me | 22:43 |
| dsockwell | haha | 22:43 |
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| `mr`jones | hi guys. anyone know of any canadian openstack companies? | 22:43 |
| riceandbeans | status quo when I joined | 22:43 |
| riceandbeans | canada has the internet now? | 22:43 |
| Ryan_Lane | `mr`jones: hm. let me see | 22:43 |
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| `mr`jones | seems hard to find one via google searches. the only company i found so far isn't actually supporting openstack yet | 22:44 |
| Ryan_Lane | I know for sure there are some | 22:45 |
| Ryan_Lane | let me see if their survey results are public | 22:45 |
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| Ryan_Lane | ugh, these raw survey results need some love. | 22:46 |
| riceandbeans | you should wrap them in python love and transform them into something useful | 22:47 |
| Ryan_Lane | we're doing that as part of the results we'll be giving back to the community | 22:47 |
| riceandbeans | I hate not having identifiers for scope | 22:47 |
| riceandbeans | and no interpolation | 22:48 |
| riceandbeans | that angers my blood | 22:48 |
| riceandbeans | you made a language that's high level, but has annoying aspects of C in it too | 22:48 |
| Ryan_Lane | `mr`jones: https://www.openstack.org/user-stories/#Cloud%20Hosting%20/%20MSP%20/%20Telco | 22:48 |
| riceandbeans | Ryan_Lane: your name seems really familiar though | 22:48 |
| riceandbeans | have you ever been to puppetconf? | 22:48 |
| Ryan_Lane | yes | 22:49 |
| Ryan_Lane | I spoke at it a couple years ago | 22:49 |
| Ryan_Lane | `mr`jones: VEXXHOST, Inc. | 22:49 |
| `mr`jones | I see "VEXXHOST" | 22:49 |
| dsockwell | what an unfortunate name hahahaha | 22:49 |
| `mr`jones | Ryan_Lane thanks. I'm attempting contacting them bow | 22:49 |
| Ryan_Lane | yw | 22:49 |
| Ryan_Lane | I know there's got to be more | 22:50 |
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| riceandbeans | Ryan_Lane: I think I sat at your conference... | 22:53 |
| Ryan_Lane | heh, well my talk was about puppet and openstack ;) | 22:54 |
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| riceandbeans | Ryan_Lane: at the time I ignored it thinking it had NOTHING to do with me | 22:54 |
| riceandbeans | sorry | 22:54 |
| riceandbeans | I was with a different company | 22:54 |
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| riceandbeans | and that one was extremely private with all data | 22:55 |
| riceandbeans | everything was very very heavily compartmentalized | 22:55 |
| Ryan_Lane | :D | 22:55 |
| riceandbeans | different VPN needed to work on a different project or same project at a different environment level | 22:55 |
| riceandbeans | like, hardcore segregation | 22:55 |
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| delete | hi, openstack newbie here, | 22:56 |
| delete | Unable to communicate with identity service: {"error": {"message": "The request you have made requires authentication.", "code": 401, "title": "Not Authorized"}}. (HTTP 401) | 22:56 |
| delete | I don't know how to make glance and nova to use my ids | 22:56 |
| delete | I sourced a keystone file | 22:57 |
| delete | keystone.conf has the same key | 22:57 |
| delete | not sure what I'm missing | 22:57 |
| delete | [root@localhost ~]# nova flavor-list | 22:57 |
| delete | ERROR: Invalid OpenStack Nova credentials. | 22:57 |
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| occupant | I'm acutally not a nova user, but I believe you either have to put your creds in environment variables or spec them on the command line | 22:59 |
| occupant | if it's anything like other parts of openstack | 22:59 |
| occupant | it's all keystone, after all | 22:59 |
| delete | I have them on the enviromment | 23:00 |
| delete | [root@localhost ~]# echo $OS_USERNAME | 23:00 |
| delete | admin | 23:00 |
| delete | for instnace | 23:00 |
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| delete | [root@localhost ~]# echo $OS_TENANT_NAME | 23:05 |
| delete | admin | 23:05 |
| delete | [root@localhost ~]# echo $OS_AUTH_URL | 23:05 |
| delete | http://127.0.0.1:5000/v2.0/ | 23:05 |
| delete | [root@localhost ~]# echo $OS_USERNAME | 23:05 |
| delete | admin | 23:05 |
| delete | [root@localhost ~]# echo $OS_PASSWORD | 23:05 |
| delete | verybadpass | 23:05 |
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| delete | following this howto http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Getting_started_with_OpenStack_on_Fedora_18 | 23:06 |
| `mr`jones | hi delete i see *********** | 23:06 |
| occupant | hunter2 | 23:06 |
| `mr`jones | [16:05:46] <delete> [root@localhost ~]# echo $OS_PASSWORD | 23:07 |
| `mr`jones | [16:05:48] <delete> *********** | 23:07 |
| delete | you're kidding right? | 23:08 |
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| dsockwell | delete: it's the oldest joke on the internet | 23:08 |
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| delete | lol | 23:09 |
| delete | here is some debugging | 23:09 |
| delete | http://pastebin.ca/2465826 | 23:09 |
| occupant | what's really weird is that someone made a hunter2 joke on our internal irc channel at the very same time | 23:09 |
| occupant | coincidence... or NOT? | 23:09 |
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| dsockwell | was it you? | 23:11 |
| occupant | uh, so you have your admin token as an env var as well? | 23:11 |
| delete | yes | 23:11 |
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| occupant | hrm, and you're sure that the users exist inside the tenants and everything's right with that crap? | 23:11 |
| delete | and this works | 23:12 |
| delete | [root@localhost ~]# curl -H "X-Auth-Token: 49ac57278d318dc7bb61" http://localhost:35357/v2.0/tenants | 23:12 |
| `mr`jones | delete http://www.bash.org/?244321 | 23:12 |
| delete | {"tenants_links": [], "tenants": [{"description": "Service Tenant", "enabled": true, "id": "9c85743eee994e28af10ea7b9d215af0", "name": "service"}, {"description": "Default Tenant", "enabled": true, "id": "afd9af7cd2604311be27646b4111f8d4", "name": "demo"}]}[root@localhost ~]# | 23:12 |
| delete | ROFLMAO | 23:12 |
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| delete | keystone user-list shows: | 23:14 |
| delete | | 4738e8d8819a47a5b0cd7b72db3f3fa6 | admin | True | | | 23:14 |
| delete | so the user was created properly | 23:15 |
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| occupant | you'll wanna make sure that the user is in the admin tenant and has been assigned the admin role | 23:16 |
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| occupant | keystone user-role-list --tenant-id <tenand-id> --user <user-id> | 23:17 |
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| delete | this is the command I issue to set the password | 23:19 |
| delete | see some warningns | 23:19 |
| delete | http://pastebin.ca/index.php | 23:19 |
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| occupant | erm I think you want a more specific url than that | 23:19 |
| delete | sorry | 23:19 |
| delete | http://pastebin.ca/2465827 | 23:19 |
| delete | the tenant is not there | 23:20 |
| delete | [root@localhost ~]# keystone user-role-list --tenant-id admin --user-id admin | 23:20 |
| delete | WARNING: Bypassing authentication using a token & endpoint (authentication credentials are being ignored). | 23:20 |
| delete | No tenant with a name or ID of 'admin' exists. | 23:20 |
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| lifeless | so the WARNING can be ignored | 23:20 |
| lifeless | the No tenant error is the key | 23:20 |
| occupant | yeah you need to reference the UUIDs and not the names of the tenant/user | 23:21 |
| lifeless | you haven't created your adin tenant | 23:21 |
| occupant | not the names | 23:21 |
| occupant | yeah, do a user-role-list and a tenant-list to make sure that the roles and tenants for admin exist | 23:21 |
| occupant | er, a role-list | 23:22 |
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| occupant | (yes, keystone is cumbersome) | 23:22 |
| delete | the tenant admin doesn't exist | 23:22 |
| delete | how can I create it? | 23:22 |
| occupant | tenant-create --name the_name | 23:23 |
| occupant | now do a role-list. is there an admin role? | 23:23 |
| delete | yes, there is one | 23:24 |
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| delete | just created the tenant | 23:24 |
| occupant | alright, now using the UUIDs of the user, tenant, and role that you've created, assign like so: | 23:24 |
| occupant | keystone user-role-add --user 1a8c0dd5f7bb4227994bf76a04c8e4f8 --role 13ff142206f146beb39534b0ca1072e0 --tenant-id 667594ed35d843dc9c6facdfd13b8e24 | 23:24 |
| delete | ok | 23:24 |
| delete | done | 23:25 |
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| occupant | give authing another try | 23:26 |
| delete | new error | 23:26 |
| delete | unable to sign token | 23:26 |
| delete | http://pastebin.ca/2465830 | 23:27 |
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| dsockwell | maybe off-topic, but i keep hearing 'devops' everywhere. is there a simple definition that i, someone who has never devop'd, can grasp? | 23:29 |
| occupant | ooh, not sure on that one | 23:29 |
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| delete | will, continue later, thank you occupant | 23:29 |
| occupant | dsockwell: it's getting harder to get a straight admin job these days. people want someone who can make webtools and do backend crap | 23:30 |
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| dsockwell | so how does that apply in the context of maintaining an openstack installation, for instance? | 23:32 |
| dsockwell | what would a devops practitioner do that a classical sysadmin wouldn't? | 23:32 |
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| dsockwell | hey look, something called 'an idiots guide to devops' | 23:40 |
| dsockwell | last stop before youtube | 23:40 |
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