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| Preytell | where would I post a note about missing info in the docs? | 02:04 |
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| evanjfraser | Just tried the redhat RDO deployment, it kinda looks like it doesn't support Neutron particularly well | 02:08 |
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| Loquacity | Preytell: you can raise a bug | 02:10 |
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| evanjfraser | one more thing I just noticed, the RDO installed mariaDB instead of mysql. | 02:11 |
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| evanjfraser | are there any complications to expect as a result? I know its a fork of mysql, but is it equally compatible with openstack? | 02:12 |
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| larsks | evanjfraser: Neutron works fine with RDO in my experience. I've run both VLAN-based and GRE-based configurations. Are you running RDO under RHEL/CentOS or Fedora? | 02:19 |
| larsks | And what sort of problems have you encountered? | 02:19 |
| evanjfraser | hey larsks, this is very much a first glimpse of RDO for me | 02:19 |
| evanjfraser | I think I found my problem | 02:20 |
| larsks | The documentation for Neutron in general -- both on the RDO site and the upstream openstack site -- probably needs some work. | 02:20 |
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| evanjfraser | I'm using vlans, and my vlan range was in format ###:### | 02:20 |
| evanjfraser | rather than <netname>:###:### | 02:20 |
| evanjfraser | larsks: the same thing is true for openstack across the board | 02:20 |
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| larsks | For what it's worth, a tunnel based configuration is substantially simpler than using VLANs (because the layer 2 switch configuration becomes much simpler). | 02:21 |
| evanjfraser | I got neutron started after changing the ovs plugin file | 02:21 |
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| larsks | Yeah, but Neutron in particular has a bunch of moving parts and it's easy to get one thing wrong. | 02:21 |
| evanjfraser | :) | 02:21 |
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| evanjfraser | I have a grizzly cloud in production in one Datacentre atm, I'm currently experimenting with RDO to setup a sister havana cloud in another DC. | 02:22 |
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| larsks | Nifty. Hope it all works out. I'm not actually running anything in production right now, but I'm bringing up grizzly and havana deployments multiple times daily working on some documentation and tools. | 02:23 |
| evanjfraser | cool :) | 02:23 |
| evanjfraser | the docs for RDO mentioned that neutron wasn't fully supported yet. | 02:24 |
| evanjfraser | which may be out of date | 02:24 |
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| larsks | Yeah, I think a lot of the docs were written for RDO Grizzly. | 02:25 |
| evanjfraser | ah ok | 02:25 |
| evanjfraser | though grizzly has quantum integrated | 02:25 |
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| evanjfraser | grizzly's been pretty good | 02:26 |
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| evanjfraser | I've been pretty much hands off, except for occasionally purging keystone tokens from the DB which don't seem to get otherwise cleared. | 02:27 |
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| larsks | I've seen some email on that recently but haven't been paying close attention. It's possible that Havana is better about that... | 02:27 |
| evanjfraser | heh | 02:27 |
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| evanjfraser | well, I have a cronjob that purges expired tokens from the DB once a week now anyway | 02:28 |
| evanjfraser | problem solved? | 02:28 |
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| larsks | Works for me :). | 02:28 |
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| evanjfraser | The thing that gets me about the RDO/cisco/etc auto openstack deployments, is how is someone that relies on these things to install openstack meant to fix shit when it breaks? (and it will) | 02:39 |
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| kr4m3r | Hello all, why my security rules group not work for public ips? | 03:05 |
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| almosteverywhere | hi all, I'm thinking of contributing to openstack | 03:15 |
| almosteverywhere | I was reading the doc but I can't seem to find the info: is it possible to be running it on osx? can i work on the code from osx? | 03:16 |
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| stan_ivanov | Hello, I'm trying to open a console to an instance, but when I try to open the URL, I recieved from "nova get-vnc-console", in my browser I get "Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/eventlet/wsgi.py", line 395, in handle_one_response for data in result: TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not iterable" | 07:36 |
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| sheldonh | is there something i can do with the nova or neutron utilities that says "look, just associate an available floating ip with this fixed address on this instance, i don't care which floating ip you assign, i'll interrogate and find out later" | 07:42 |
| sheldonh | ? | 07:42 |
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| sheldonh | i ask because i'd like to avoid code that goes "list floating ips. select one. request it. if someone else beat me to it, start again" | 07:58 |
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| sheldonh | "Neutron does not auto-create floating IPs or auto-assign them to new instances but this feature is planned for future inclusion." -- http://openstack.redhat.com/Floating_IP_range | 08:03 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | I successfully managed to setup openstack on a xenserver (testwise on my local VMWare Fusion) and all services started successfully. | 08:18 |
| SebastianKreutzb | Now, when I start an instance, I get the error "Error: Failed to launch instance "test_instance2": Please try again later [Error: No valid host was found. ].". Any idea? | 08:19 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | I was installing it via devstack btw | 08:20 |
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| SebastianKreutzb | I checked the instance error via `nova show` and get: `{u'message': u'No valid host was found. ', u'code': 500, u'details': u' File "/opt/stack/nova/nova/scheduler/filter_scheduler.py", line 107, in schedule_run_instance raise exception.NoValidHost(reason="") ` | 08:34 |
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| stan_ivanov | Hello, when I try to open a console to an intance from Horizon, I get "Failed to connect to server (code: 1006)", anyone can help? | 09:02 |
| muehsi | try to login with ssh | 09:02 |
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| lkthomas | anyone want to go for drinks tonight in Hong Kong ? | 10:20 |
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| moneydouble | lkthomas: I do. If I were there. :P | 10:22 |
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| ntt_ | Hi. I'm doing an upgrade from grizzly to havana, but i have problems with neutron. This guide -> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Havana#Upgrades_from_Grizzly doesn't help. I have a "table already exists" error on neutron-db-manage. Someone can help me? | 10:26 |
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| reidrac | lkoranda: count me too in the "I wish I was there" :) | 10:34 |
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| stan_ivanov | How can I ssh to my instance? | 12:02 |
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| drazyl | if your networking is up and running you probably just need to allow ssh through the security groups | 12:04 |
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| sheldonh | wow. "No valid host was found" is a pretty piss poor explanation for "InstanceTypeDiskTooSmall: Instance type's disk is too small for requested image" :( | 12:27 |
| timello | sheldonh: file a bug :D | 12:28 |
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| sheldonh | timello: i submitted 4 fixes last week and had a big fight with neutron this week. i'm all out of juice. next week :) | 12:28 |
| timello | sheldonh: heh | 12:28 |
| sheldonh | SebastianKreutzb: regarding your "No valid host was found" error... i found the real problem by taking the host id and searching for it in /var/log/nova/*.log on the nova-api node, e.g. grep e5e515b2-9ca4-4b81-9d45-f1247a71de53 /var/log/nova/*.log | less | 12:28 |
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| sheldonh | am i reading this bug right? nova ssh is broken and not going to be fixed? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/955792 | 12:39 |
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| drazyl | sheldonh - looks like it, but because neutron is supposed to be the networking of choice | 12:42 |
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| sheldonh | drazyl: pity neutron ssh doesn't exist | 12:47 |
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| reidrac | sheldonh, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/deprecate-nova-network | 12:51 |
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| drazyl | sheldonh what is your network called in horizon? | 13:19 |
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| Teduardo | does anyone know of a decent tool to stress test nodes prior to putting them into production in an openstack cloud (I suppose this is more of a what do you use for...) question rather than an openstack question | 13:21 |
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| lupine | I kid | 13:26 |
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| lupine | aside from your average soak test (memtest + testdisk), it's generally a good idea to throw netperf or something at it too | 13:28 |
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| reidrac | sheldonh: you seemed to ask why nova ssh won't be fixed and I tried to answer that... because it is part of nova-network and nova-network is going to be deprecated in favour of neutron | 13:45 |
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| queaker | hi folks. i want to change the openstack cacert - used by nova-cert... but i can't find a how. is there anything to consider? | 13:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sup guys | 14:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | hmm, i seem to miss sheldonh by an hour or so every day | 14:04 |
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| decede | Sam-I-Am: Morning, how far have you got with your deployment now? | 14:12 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, neutron works and i can roll out VMs | 14:12 |
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| decede | Sam-I-Am: nice | 14:15 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 14:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | so now i need to figure out why it works... and whats going on under the hood | 14:18 |
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| Sam-I-Am | then figure out where the official docs go wrong and hopefully submit a useful fix | 14:18 |
| decede | ah ok | 14:18 |
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| decede | whats your networking setup? | 14:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | using gre with a separate network node | 14:19 |
| decede | nice | 14:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | by default, vms get an internal ip unless i assign a fixed ip | 14:20 |
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| badams | can anyone provide some help with installing ceilometer? | 15:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i havent worked with that piece yet | 15:08 |
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| decede | Sam-I-Am: sorry nagios called, I'm installing on debian and currently picking my way through the docs. I think I've got the controller node up but struggling to find information on the networking | 15:16 |
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| Sam-I-Am | heh nagios... | 15:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | i use zenoss | 15:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | decede: havana? | 15:21 |
| decede | I was planning to use Neutron and GRE for per-tenant routers with private networks | 15:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | ah | 15:21 |
| decede | Sam-I-Am: yep | 15:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | are you using the official docs? | 15:22 |
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| badams | hey decede, this was where i started my installation https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_MultiNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst | 15:23 |
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| badams | decede: it provided a pretty good foundation for quantum with gre | 15:23 |
| badams | pretty straightforward | 15:23 |
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| decede | Sam-I-Am: yep | 15:24 |
| decede | badams: ah nice | 15:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | i was about to recommend that too | 15:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | just replace quantum with grizzly | 15:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | what i wound up doing was following the official docs until i got to neutron... and then compared whats in the unofficial grizzly docs with what i had and kind of merged the two | 15:25 |
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| badams | yeah im still on grizzly, if you're on havanna it'll be a bit different i expect | 15:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | neutron from the official docs does not work... i think because it lacks a connection between nova and neutron on the controller | 15:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | it also lacks adding sudoers stuff for rootwrappers | 15:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | among other things... | 15:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm trying to determine exactly where it breaks and file a bug | 15:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | meanwhile, the grizzly stuff is ok and probably works in its entirety with havana | 15:27 |
| lkthomas | guys, does it means if I use OpenStack basically could run Hyper-V on linux file system? | 15:27 |
| lkthomas | I mean, the VM itself | 15:27 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i... dont think you'd want to run hyper-v as a VM if thats what you're asking | 15:28 |
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| lkthomas | no, does it means I could use hyper-V to access any linux based object storage ? | 15:28 |
| * lkthomas don't trust NTFS at all | 15:29 | |
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| Sam-I-Am | i dont know how openstack integrates with hyper-v. if its like the other hypervisors, it should be able to present alternate storage options to hyper-v. | 15:30 |
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| Sam-I-Am | but... i've never used hyper-v | 15:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | no clue what it requires to run | 15:30 |
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| lkthomas | I could understand that | 15:30 |
| lkthomas | but that means, openstack provide a well blended environment | 15:30 |
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| lkthomas | I just don' | 15:31 |
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| lkthomas | I just don't understand how does a hypervisor understand object storage | 15:31 |
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| lkthomas | it must have some sort of storage driver which written in C | 15:32 |
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| badams | anyone here use savanna? | 15:41 |
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| gmi | badams: there is dedicated channel #savanna | 15:42 |
| badams | gmi: thanks | 15:43 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | I finally have a working environment but I can't get nova to generate the novnc URL using port 6080. It always generates the URL for port 80. | 15:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: yo | 16:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: http://pastebin.com/dUtLz5ma | 16:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | do you have that? | 16:06 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | hey man you're like my spirit guide through all this :D | 16:07 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | just making sure, yes, that's exactly what I have set | 16:08 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | Sam, does running 'nova get-vnc-console [instance_id] novnc' return a URL with a 6080 port for you? | 16:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | one sec.. | 16:09 |
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| ntt_ | Hi. Where i can found the openstack havana repository for ubuntu?? | 16:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, it works | 16:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | and i can actually connect to the instance | 16:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | hey, thats something i havent tried yet | 16:10 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | yeah mine says novnc | http://192.168.0.141/vnc_auto.html?token=12345.... | 16:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | hummm mine says 6080 | 16:11 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | ntt_: Ubuntu 13.10 has the repo's enabled out of the box. | 16:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: i also have the novnc proxy stuff on my compute node | 16:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | in nova.conf | 16:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | which points to the controller node's IP | 16:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | i dont know if that matters but worth a shot | 16:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | the compute node isnt actually listening on 6080 | 16:13 |
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| ntt_ | CaptainTacoSauce: I'm upgrading from grizzly to havana. My network node has an ubuntu repository -> "deb http://ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu precise-updates/grizzly main". I have to change this? where can i found the new one^ | 16:13 |
| ntt_ | ? | 16:13 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ntt_: if you're on precise, just change grizzly to havana | 16:14 |
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| ntt_ | Sam-I-Am: It seems not working..... If i change, should i see neutron instead of quantum packages? | 16:15 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i think you'll still see quantum packages too | 16:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | but neutron ones should appear after an apt-get update | 16:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | i see quantum stuff from what originally came with precise | 16:16 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | Sam-I-Am: Thanks, I got it. I set everything up right on the controller but not on the compute host. Derp. | 16:20 |
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| ntt_ | Sam-I-Am: no neutron packages.... how is this possible? have you any ideas? | 16:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: its interesting what all 'little stuff' matters here | 16:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | like why does X need to know about Y through Z when X can talk directly to Y | 16:21 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | yeah this was a silly mistake though | 16:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ntt_: thats... odd. adding those repos should work | 16:22 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | I guess it seemed like the horizon/nova-controller host should know this information instead of the nova-compute host generating the URL but I forgot to brain | 16:22 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ntt_: did you try whats in this? http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/install-guide/install/apt/content/basics-packages.html | 16:22 |
| ntt_ | "The following packages have been kept back:" .... why? | 16:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: did you try rubbing the magic lamp before configuring it? | 16:23 |
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| ntt_ | Sam-I-Am: it works!. Thank you. | 16:27 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sure | 16:27 |
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| Sam-I-Am | wheee too much coffee | 17:04 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | no such thing | 17:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, the coming down part sucks | 17:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | its like all my neurons are misfiring | 17:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | kind of like my first neutron install | 17:08 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | hmm all I get is the shakes, which I usually attack with food | 17:08 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | hahaha :D | 17:08 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | and today is enchilada Friday, my last day as a contractor, and a good time to celebrate my first sucessful Openstack build :D | 17:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | what are you doing after today? | 17:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | and every day should be enchilada day | 17:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'm starting on a second stack build in hopes i can figure out exactly where the docs go bad and fix it | 17:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | tons of people are getting stuck at roughly the same place | 17:10 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | well eventually they are going to finish my lab rebuild so instead of my one desktop at home with 16GB of RAM, I'll have 16 real server nodes with 48GB of RAM each | 17:15 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | so next, I scale it out :D | 17:15 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | yeah maybe you can join the documentation team :D | 17:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | oooohh thats a lot of hardware | 17:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | my lab is stuck with 7 year old compute gear | 17:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | and its a big chicken and egg problem with getting new stuff | 17:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | that argument made up an entire afternoon of meetings with execs yesterday | 17:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | as for the docs... i'm not really a coder, so i'll contribute where i can | 17:21 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | oh nice, yeah we invested in "the old platform" so we actually have a toooon of hardware just waiting for us to finish poking openstack | 17:22 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | we have 336 of those 12 core 48GB nodes to deploy to :P | 17:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | all for openstack? | 17:23 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | yep | 17:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | ah, didnt know you were that close to a prod environment | 17:23 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | the hardware is there, but clearly the openstack design isn't done since I just finally got it working :P | 17:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'm still a while away from any prod installs | 17:23 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | probably Q2 before we get anywhere | 17:23 |
| Sam-I-Am | there's plenty more stuff to break... and then determining how to fix it | 17:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | plenty of reading about the inner workings to do | 17:24 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | yeah, same here | 17:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | we've already noticed how it breaks | 17:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | and the solution usually isn't obvious | 17:24 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | I don't think you need to "code" to contribute to the documentation project. I really have no idea but I assume the platform is there and you just generate/correct the content. | 17:24 |
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| Sam-I-Am | nah, the docs dont require coding | 17:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | guess i wasn't clear :/ | 17:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | thats why they're low-hanging fruit for me | 17:25 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | oh I think I see now | 17:25 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | right, awesome | 17:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | and it still benefits a lot of people | 17:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | think i've filed well over a dozen bugs now, most with suggested fixes, and almost all of them have been triaged or rolled out | 17:26 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | nice | 17:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | pretty sure i havent put my finger on exactly why neutron doesnt work out of the box... trying to figure that out now. | 17:27 |
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| Sam-I-Am | that damned rpc problem seems common | 17:27 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | I know the major thing for me was I was missing half of the nova.conf config-- all the neutron stuff | 17:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | was that it? thats kind of what i'm thinking | 17:27 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | oh yeah I'm 90% sure of it | 17:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | mentally merging the grizzly and havana config guides was helpful | 17:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | "humm, this is here, but not here... lets try it" | 17:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | it would make sense that nova on the controller not talking to neutron is a Bad thing | 17:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | now that i understand more about provisioning | 17:29 |
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| Sam-I-Am | my install still isn't perfect. going to keep this one pristine so i can begin to dive into the gooey innards | 17:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | i still havent installed horizon, cinder, heat, or ceilometer | 17:30 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | yeah I just expected nova to get neutron connection information from keystone, apparently doesn't work that way | 17:30 |
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| Sam-I-Am | are you planning to use gre/vlan-style sdn or implement it with sdn-capable network gear? | 17:32 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | I think I like gre but I'm definitely not decided yet. | 17:33 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | VLANs don't appeal to me at all. | 17:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | the goal of my project is linking neutron with sdn switches via vxlan/vtun | 17:33 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | 4096 hard limit with your gear probably overloading and failing before that. | 17:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | implementing a lot of this in linux is awfully complex to debug | 17:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | tunnels, bridges, iptables here and there, ovs, openflow... whee | 17:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hoping that sdn on hardware makes this easier | 17:34 |
| joel_c2 | Hi Folks, We just deployed Grizzly and tenant snapshots are being set as public by default. I am unable to find where we can change this default. (Whether through client or horizon all snapshots and images created by tenants are being set as public=True). Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. | 17:35 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | yeah... interesting to think about, I think SDN the concept is mandatory | 17:35 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | we have network engineers manually build a VLAN for every new DCaaS customer now and I hate it | 17:36 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and thats the problem. VMs reduced time to deploy apps. storage was virtualized eons ago. the last step to complete the "push a button to deploy dcaas" is sdn. | 17:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | buy a blob of hardware and distribute it on the fly... true eslastic computing | 17:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | er, elastic | 17:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | plus with ceilometer you can get tons of metrics about everything | 17:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | although i havent used it yet... | 17:38 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | agreed, all those marketing terms like frictionless, this is where the rubber hits the road :P | 17:39 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | sorry joel_c2, not sure, I'll see if I can duplicate it but it may take me a while | 17:39 |
| mdorman | could someone give me some more insight into nova network-associate-host? does that tie the network to the host, so that only hosts associated to the network will be used to schedule instances on that network? | 17:40 |
| mdorman | e.g. is it feasible to use this to have different networks tied to different hosts | 17:41 |
| joel_c2 | CaptainTacoSauce: thanks, I appreciate it. I have posted the question on ask.openstack.org too. https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/6776/images-and-snapshots-are-defaulting-publictrue-on-a-new-grizzly-deployment/ | 17:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | CaptainTacoSauce: so i'm guessing you work for a big hosting provider? | 17:43 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | I work for a massive ISP that is very eager to become a big hosting provider. :P | 17:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | right, now i remember. | 17:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | are you in the us? | 17:44 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | yep, St Louis MO | 17:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | cool | 17:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | have you done much with sp-style networking or mainly come from a sysadmin background? | 17:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | the lines are kind of blurring with all of this | 17:45 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | Yeah I guess its fair to say I come from a sysadmin background. I was a Citrix Engineer, brought here to build up our Windows offerings and ended up being a Hosting Systems (Linux) Engineer. | 17:47 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | the windy road of IT, y'know | 17:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | oh, i know | 17:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | my jobs seem to go net->sys->net->sys->net->sys | 17:48 |
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| Sam-I-Am | which makes interviews a bit odd | 17:48 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | yeah I got my degree in networking but by the time I had the opportunity to switch from sysadmin to network admin/engineer -- I would have had to start over as Jr Network Admin so that didn't happen, but I've always enjoyed networking | 17:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | now i'm out of operational land completely | 17:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | play more of an architectural role | 17:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | but i like to keep myself in the trenches with as many things as i can. i rolled out a handful of mini-isps in my lab... all with bgp, mpls, ipv6, and other advanced features. trying to keep sharp. | 17:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | right now openstack has completely taken over everything but my dreams... and i'm sure thats coming soon | 17:50 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | yeah I'm technically an Operational Engineer but I am planning a coup of the Product Development Team :P | 17:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | i havent touched my network environment in a couple of months | 17:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | it will come back into play though when i start to figure out how to utilize mpls for linking the same tenant in multiple DCs | 17:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i think the brocade vdx and mlx products will work well | 17:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | but i also have to make all of this jive with juniper | 17:54 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | Yeah I guess I don't know any of that really. I've worked with Juniper a little bit. But there's always another team that does all the "Cisco stuff". | 17:55 |
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| Sam-I-Am | nothing is baked yet... | 17:57 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hoping the wind stays reasonable... | 18:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | difficult to get warmish winter days here without wind | 18:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | supposed to go flying this afternoon... bit of a brain-break | 18:05 |
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| thebloggu | i had my machine locked up (can't even use ssh) after trying to detach a volume of an instance. using openstack havana deployed with packstack. can someone help me? | 18:26 |
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| Chocobo | Is it possible to boot an instance with a DVD iso attached... such as install media? | 18:35 |
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| larsks | Chocobo: Not easily, no. You would typically perform your install locally, then upload the image via glance once you have it configured the way you want it. | 18:52 |
| larsks | There are people working on making this easily. | 18:52 |
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| Chocobo | larsks: Windows is going to kill me :) | 18:53 |
| larsks | It is *possible* to upload your ISO via glance, then install onto a *volume* and then use boot-from-volume to start an instance... | 18:53 |
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| larsks | ...but you lose a lot of flexibility with this process. | 18:53 |
| larsks | Chocobo: I've done window instances using the install-locally-then-upload mechanism and it wasn't too bad. | 18:53 |
| Chocobo | larsks: Yeah, and I am using NFS as a volume backend. I don't think that would work. | 18:53 |
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| Chocobo | larsks: Ok, I will give that a shot. I found these instructions http://networkstatic.net/building-a-windows-image-for-openstack/ | 18:54 |
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| larsks | That seems reasonable. | 18:55 |
| Chocobo | I haven't used windows in 12 years. I am not sure how I am going to like this. Luckily it doesn't looks like I really need to do anything with it. | 18:56 |
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| larsks | Chocobo: This may or may not be useful; these are my notes from when I was building Windows images for openstack: https://gist.github.com/larsks/3998260 | 19:01 |
| larsks | We also added a little powershell script that would generate a random administrator password at boot and spit it out the serial port (where it would be available in the horizon gui) | 19:02 |
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| Chocobo | awesome thanks! | 19:03 |
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| jkyle | we're seeing a bug where a user is only able to see a single tenant project in dashboard. This does not seem to have any effect on that users role or tenant access from the cli clients. | 19:10 |
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| jkyle | ubuntu 12.04, grizzly | 19:10 |
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| jkyle | using teh ubuntu cloud archive packages | 19:10 |
| jkyle | I thought it might be this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1230235 | 19:10 |
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| momelod | i have an instance that is "shutting down".. but i can't terminate it so i got impatient and deleted it from the compute's virsh shell. | 19:16 |
| momelod | and it's still there two days later .. | 19:16 |
| momelod | what can i do? | 19:16 |
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| hugokuo | hola ..... | 19:19 |
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| larsks | momelod: You can try "nova reset-state <instance>" and then run "nova delete <instance>" again. If it still doesn't delete you'll probably need to start with /var/log/nova/compute.log and look for errors. | 19:20 |
| momelod | thanks that worked | 19:22 |
| momelod | next question. :) | 19:22 |
| tester155 | Can an openstack controller node controll another openstack controller node? | 19:22 |
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| momelod | I cant get dhcp addresses assigned to instances | 19:23 |
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| momelod | according to my `virsh net-edit default` it seems the dnsmasq server is listening on virbr0 but the dhcp requests are arriving on eth0 | 19:24 |
| momelod | here are my relevent configs: http://pastebin.com/VwFEuBPs | 19:24 |
| momelod | what am i doing wrong? | 19:24 |
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| Gamekiller77 | has any one see this out put in there neutron log files WARNING neutron.service [-] Attempting fallback to old Quantum api-paste config | 19:27 |
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| Gamekiller77 | i am getting this too | 19:31 |
| Gamekiller77 | WARNING keystoneclient.middleware.auth_token [-] signing_dir is not owned by 0 | 19:31 |
| Gamekiller77 | not sure what the mean i been changing permission around and nothing works | 19:31 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Gamekiller77: whats your signing dir set to in api-paste.ini? | 19:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | mine is /var/lib/neutron/keystone-signing and 700 owned by neutron/neutron | 19:35 |
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| Gamekiller77 | i have that set in my nuetron.conf | 19:36 |
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| Gamekiller77 | i had nothign in my api paste | 19:38 |
| Gamekiller77 | let me update and see what happens | 19:38 |
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| Gamekiller77 | still get WARNING keystoneclient.middleware.auth_token [-] signing_dir is not owned by 0 | 19:39 |
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| Gamekiller77 | then at the end of the out put i get unable to load api-paste.ini | 19:40 |
| Gamekiller77 | ERROR: Unable to load quantum from configuration file /etc/neutron/api-paste.ini. | 19:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | this was after restarting neutron? | 19:41 |
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| Gamekiller77 | just trying to start it | 19:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | how did you install all this stuff? by hand or through something like devstack or rdo? | 19:42 |
| Gamekiller77 | using command line to start it so i see the out put. | 19:42 |
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| Gamekiller77 | by hand | 19:42 |
| Gamekiller77 | using RDO repo | 19:42 |
| Gamekiller77 | havana | 19:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | so using service neutron-server start, etc? | 19:42 |
| Gamekiller77 | yes | 19:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | hmm | 19:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | did neutron install as user neutron? | 19:43 |
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| Gamekiller77 | neutron-server --config-dir /etc/neutron/ --config-file /etc/neutron/neutron.conf --config-file /etc/neutron/plugins/openvswitch/ovs_neutron_plugin.ini --log-file /var/log/neutron/server2.log -v -d | 19:43 |
| Gamekiller77 | did it with yum but as user root | 19:43 |
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| Gamekiller77 | so just started it as a service | 19:45 |
| Gamekiller77 | and the keystone fine | 19:45 |
| Gamekiller77 | but i get this | 19:45 |
| Gamekiller77 | WARNING neutron.service [-] Attempting fallback to old Quantum api-paste config | 19:45 |
| Gamekiller77 | then at the end of the trace 2013-11-08 19:44:26.620 11214 TRACE neutron.service RuntimeError: Unable to load quantum from configuration file /etc/neutron/api-paste.ini. | 19:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, one interesting thing is the name quantum AND neutron appearing | 19:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | it should just be one or the other | 19:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | quantum was renamed to neutron in havana | 19:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so are you referencing quantum somewhere? | 19:49 |
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| Qlawy | Sam-I-Am: he perhaps migrated between those two | 19:53 |
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| Qlawy | Sam-I-Am: or has old config files with new packages | 19:53 |
| amartin | I've been reading the Openstack Operations Guide (http://docs.openstack.org/ops/oreilly-openstack-ops-guide.pdf) for researching setting up my first OpenStack cluster; is Swift or Cinder preferred for storing the actual VM images? | 19:53 |
| Qlawy | no | 19:54 |
| amartin | this documentation says to use Swift so that you can support live migrations of the VMs, but block storage seems more intuitive to me | 19:54 |
| Qlawy | they are used for different thing | 19:54 |
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| Qlawy | swift is not unnecessary to live migration, at least on KVM | 19:54 |
| Qlawy | crap double negation ;/ | 19:55 |
| Qlawy | but you know what I mean i hope :P | 19:55 |
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| amartin | swift is unnecessary? | 19:55 |
| amartin | (for live migration) | 19:55 |
| Qlawy | yes it is | 19:55 |
| Qlawy | fast question | 19:55 |
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| Qlawy | what hypervisor will you use? | 19:55 |
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| amartin | KVM primarily, possibly some LXC containers as well | 19:56 |
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| amartin | I'm thinking of using RBD as the backend for Cinder to serve the VM images and any other disks that the VMs would need; not sure if there's anything I would need to use Swift for | 19:56 |
| Qlawy | amartin: I will answer you in few minutes, ave to afk | 19:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Qlawy: yeah, it could be a migration | 19:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | i havent needed to do one of those... sounds gooey | 19:59 |
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| Qlawy | amartin: Honestly I dont know what is swift used for, neve have to use it | 20:02 |
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| Qlawy | amartin: cinder use only for additional disks, ok not only but mainly | 20:02 |
| Qlawy | amartin: its for persistent data disks | 20:02 |
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| Qlawy | amartin: If you will be using KVM you just need shared vms directory ( /var/lib/nova) | 20:03 |
| Qlawy | amartin: nfs, glusterfs… what you want | 20:04 |
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| Qlawy | amartin: and ofc some kvm configuration but its much easier part | 20:04 |
| Qlawy | amartin: with LXC its similar afik | 20:04 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | hmm so I have this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/horizon/+bug/1243187 | 20:26 |
| CaptainTacoSauce | it says its been fixed, but my system is up to date and I still have it | 20:26 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | Oh wait it says confirmed not fixed. Nevermind. I can read. | 20:28 |
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| Gamekiller77 | Sam-I-Am: no i am do not have quantum at all in any areas i found that odd. This neutron server is a fresh build as the upgade from grizzly to havana borked on me. | 20:39 |
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| amartin | Qlawy: thanks for the info; I'm looking to make /var/lib/nova more robust than NFS though, since I need fault tolerance and redundancy | 20:43 |
| Qlawy | amartin: then glusterfs? | 20:44 |
| amartin | which is why ceph's RBD seems appealing, although you can tell OpenStack to look at block storage devices for the VM images rather than a folder in the filesystem? | 20:44 |
| amartin | afaik ceph's filesystem is not yet stable | 20:44 |
| amartin | Qlawy: is glusterfs the only alternative? | 20:44 |
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| Qlawy | amartin: ofc no | 20:45 |
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| Qlawy | amartin: openstack is extremely elastic | 20:45 |
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| Qlawy | amartin: hmm… im affraid it will always use /var/lib/nova until you change it, but how to use block storage as a backend for vms? No idea if its even possible | 20:46 |
| amartin | I need a filesystem which will keep running VMs online even if one of the storage nodes, drive, or switch fails (or another component in the system) | 20:46 |
| Qlawy | amartin: good NAS? | 20:47 |
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| Qlawy | amartin: it should fix redundancy problem | 20:47 |
| Qlawy | amartin: try looking openstack HA | 20:47 |
| Qlawy | perhaps you will find sth inspirating | 20:48 |
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| clayb | amartin Look at Cinder.conf in https://github.com/bloomberg/chef-bcpc/blob/master/cookbooks/bcpc/templates/default/cinder.conf.erb for how to set Cinder up for RBD | 20:52 |
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| clayb | Look at glance-api.conf for how to set Glance up for RBD https://github.com/bloomberg/chef-bcpc/blob/master/cookbooks/bcpc/templates/default/glance-api.conf.erb | 20:52 |
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| clayb | We don't use any hypervisor local storage in the Chef-BCPC OpenStack stack | 20:52 |
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| clayb | Ceph can tolerate a node or rack wide failure if you set your CRUSH map to have the topological awareness http://ceph.com/papers/weil-crush-sc06.pdf | 20:53 |
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| amartin | clayb: thanks, does glance serve images for running VMs (as well as templates and snapshots)? | 20:54 |
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| clayb | Yes, I believe Glance handles the images and snapshots, while Cinder handles the running VM images | 20:55 |
| clayb | (That's why both have to be configured for RBD) | 20:55 |
| amartin | that makes sense | 20:56 |
| amartin | and you can still do live migrations with block storage? | 20:56 |
| Gamekiller77 | Sam-I-Am: a reboot fixed it | 20:56 |
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| clayb | Since it's a global filesystem yes you can; that said I haven't tested migrations much since moving to this stack. I know some folks have. Open a GitHub issue with Chef-BCPC if you find our configuration prevents it. Pravir who's quite active was testing migrations. | 20:57 |
| Gamekiller77 | yah Ceph has a system like VMware thin Denver vision | 20:57 |
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| Gamekiller77 | love my ceph setup | 20:57 |
| amartin | Gamekiller77: any good guides on setting up ceph? | 20:58 |
| Gamekiller77 | i just used there doc | 20:58 |
| Gamekiller77 | it is really simple | 20:58 |
| Gamekiller77 | use ceph-deploy | 20:58 |
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| clayb | Chef-BCPC will setup ceph for you but ceph-deploy is a very good way to get your hands dirty to learn about Ceph | 20:59 |
| clayb | http://ceph.com/docs/master/rados/deployment/ | 20:59 |
| Gamekiller77 | yah | 20:59 |
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| Gamekiller77 | i do it by hand first for sure | 20:59 |
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| Gamekiller77 | learn the nuts and bolts so when chef puppet or crow bar messes up you know what broken | 21:00 |
| Gamekiller77 | also make sure you have the currect hardware need to run Ceph | 21:00 |
| Gamekiller77 | bandwidth is a big concern | 21:00 |
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| Gamekiller77 | i run 20gb per network public and cluster | 21:01 |
| clayb | Yeah, I'm trying to hack together the proper Jenkins scriptable tests to put Chef-BCPC under CI for both hardware and VM's but it's not there yet | 21:01 |
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| Gamekiller77 | yah not easy we are doing that now with puppet | 21:01 |
| clayb | I run dual 10GigE one for VMs and one for Ceph; then use a 1GigE management network | 21:01 |
| Gamekiller77 | well that automation guys in my team are | 21:01 |
| Gamekiller77 | clayb: i talking about the OSD nodes | 21:02 |
| clayb | Yeah, I tend to have my tenants use chef-solo but I really liked Puppet at my last job where I did CloudStack and Hadoop setup with it. | 21:02 |
| Gamekiller77 | i would not sure VM load with OSD work load | 21:02 |
| amartin | clayb: what is the overall purpose/target audience of chef-bcpc? or just a general-purpose set of cookbooks for setting up OpenStack? | 21:02 |
| clayb | We co-locate VMs and OSDs | 21:02 |
| Gamekiller77 | o man that is nasty work load | 21:02 |
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| clayb | It's the recipe we follow at Bloomberg for setting up our OpenStack clusters; a general purpose HA OpenStack setup. | 21:03 |
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| Gamekiller77 | when i talked to Sage and his team | 21:03 |
| clayb | You can find Pravir Chandra and Justin Erenkrantz discussing Chef-BCPC at the last OpenStack Summit (Portland) | 21:03 |
| Gamekiller77 | that was not a very godo work load | 21:03 |
| Gamekiller77 | good* | 21:03 |
| amartin | clayb: does it support Havana now (I know it's available in the 12.04 repositories already) | 21:03 |
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| clayb | Gamekiller how much storage does each OSD host have in your setup? | 21:03 |
| Gamekiller77 | 24 disk | 21:04 |
| Gamekiller77 | mix of SATA and SSD | 21:04 |
| clayb | amartin Pravir has a branch on that GitHub repo for Havana | 21:04 |
| amartin | clayb: ah okay | 21:04 |
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| Gamekiller77 | and SAS for OS | 21:04 |
| amartin | so you'd recommend 10Gig backbone for worker nodes? | 21:04 |
| clayb | Gamekiller Ouch! Yeah, that'd be hard; we use 8 disks per host | 21:04 |
| mdorman | any way to get the current 'reserved' status of a fixed-ip using nova or nova-manage? | 21:04 |
| Gamekiller77 | so pair of SAS for OS and 5 SSD the reset are SAS 900gb nsata | 21:04 |
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| Gamekiller77 | we are looking for high speed access | 21:05 |
| Gamekiller77 | all on UCS | 21:05 |
| amartin | we're just in the preliminary evaluation phase so I just have 5 i5 boxes with SATA drives for workers and 3 i5 boxes for head nodes | 21:05 |
| clayb | Gamekiller to keep management simple we go for symmetric disks per host right now. All SSD's for OpenStack | 21:05 |
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| Gamekiller77 | yah SSD are a bit cost imperative | 21:06 |
| clayb | amartin Our biggest findings were drastic performance differences between seemingly similar PCIe HBA's and chassis backplanes as I understand it | 21:06 |
| Gamekiller77 | the 900gb SAS disk you can get on the C240 UCS are perfect price point for speed and capacity with SSD journaling | 21:06 |
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| Gamekiller77 | my compute node are on UCS blades so that why we split them | 21:07 |
| clayb | (I wasn't involved with our hardware shake out for what we're currently deploying but I'm using some nodes we didn't go with for a continuous build cluster using 8 machines in that type of setup) | 21:07 |
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| clayb | Gamekiller ah nice | 21:07 |
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| Gamekiller77 | yah we are just trying to do that cost point factor and high speed system access for the DB team | 21:07 |
| amartin | bcache seems like an interesting approach for faster caching at a lower price point | 21:07 |
| Gamekiller77 | we using 7k for backplane so networking not a factor | 21:08 |
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| Gamekiller77 | nexus 7k | 21:08 |
| amartin | clayb: do you have good recommendations for HBAs? | 21:08 |
| Gamekiller77 | amartin: what OS you running | 21:09 |
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| amartin | Ubuntu 12.04 | 21:09 |
| Gamekiller77 | i had good times with Qlogic | 21:09 |
| Gamekiller77 | emulix gave me some problems | 21:09 |
| clayb | Yes we run 12.04 right now | 21:09 |
| Gamekiller77 | i alwasy like Qlogic | 21:09 |
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| clayb | amartin I don't think I can recommend the hardware we run on due to policy; sorry | 21:10 |
| Gamekiller77 | or cisco Vic but that per my setup with all Cisco on Cisco | 21:10 |
| amartin | clayb: np | 21:10 |
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| Gamekiller77 | amartin: what FC switchs you using if there FC HBA | 21:11 |
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| amartin | Gamekiller77: what about 10GbaseT? | 21:12 |
| Gamekiller77 | hmm | 21:12 |
| clayb | amartin, sorry when I said HBA, I should have said RAID card; we run them as a bunch of local SATA disks in RAID 0 though; that's all our chasses support. | 21:12 |
| Gamekiller77 | ok so broadcom has some problem with some of there nics | 21:12 |
| clayb | No FC for our OpenStack | 21:12 |
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| Gamekiller77 | they have an internal switch that freezes | 21:13 |
| Gamekiller77 | it fix not but if you got older cards the will kernal crash on you | 21:13 |
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| Gamekiller77 | intel good too | 21:13 |
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| amartin | clayb: ah okay, I was hoping to use a bunch of SATA disk for each worker node; possibly with an ssd on top with bcache; rbd --> bcache --> mdadm | 21:13 |
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| clayb | amartin Ceph supports the use of a journal disk; I'm not sure but that may be easier than bcache. Performance though I can't say what the difference might be | 21:14 |
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| clayb | The Ceph object storage daemons (OSDs) will cache data for you configurably in RAM too | 21:15 |
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| clayb | I do miss the L2Arc from Solaris, so bcache does indeed sound cool | 21:17 |
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| amartin | clayb: how does it handle failover? e.g a running VM is pulling data from its disk on a worker and suddenly the worker (or switch it is connected to) fails | 21:19 |
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| amartin | does ceph just start pulling the data from another replica without interruption? | 21:20 |
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| clayb | amartin, once the Ceph client recognizes the OSD as down I believe it will start reading from the next OSD serving that data (we run with a replication factor of 3). | 21:22 |
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| clayb | I'm not sure what those timeouts are by default. | 21:22 |
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| clayb | The Ceph mon may need to mark the OSD down then the client will switch but Ceph is indeed designed to continue reading successfully in the case of a failure and the topology is quite flexible to be broken in to disk, node, rack, switches, etc. hierarchies | 21:24 |
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| amartin | clayb: creating a design with no spof is my goal (be it worker, head, switch, etc) | 21:26 |
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| clayb | Yes, that's what we're aiming for as well | 21:27 |
| clayb | RabbitMQ, Haproxy and MySQL cause some fun non-trivial issues for us but Ceph has been nice and reliable | 21:27 |
| amartin | what about upgrades between major versions of OpenStack? From what I've read that is not trivial; I was thinking of setting up two identical clusters in a ping/pong type setup | 21:27 |
| clayb | I don't think that was supported before Havana? | 21:28 |
| amartin | run one cluster on the current release (with all VMs on it), then when the next release comes up install, configure, test on the second cluster, then live migrate all the VMs to it | 21:28 |
| amartin | provided of course that both clusters could access the same RBD backend | 21:28 |
| clayb | Yes, we haven't done live migrations in that manner | 21:28 |
| clayb | We have been pondering doing that where we'd have a unified cluster and we'd migrate all VM's to 50%+1 nodes | 21:29 |
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| clayb | Then we'd take the offlined nodes and reinstall them when we could schedule downtime for the VMs to do a snapshot and glance image upload. But so far we've been able to simply offline a cluster when upgrading. | 21:30 |
| clayb | (We aren't a service provider so we do get more lattitude with our "tenants" for now) | 21:30 |
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| amartin | clayb: if taking down 50%-1 nodes for the upgrade, could they still communicate with your same storage backend? I would be concerned about incompatibilities between releases perhaps | 21:32 |
| clayb | Ceph supports pretty clean upgrade symmantics so I'd do Ceph independent of OpenStack actually | 21:33 |
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| clayb | For a Ceph upgrade just one node at a time should be okay | 21:33 |
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| amartin | ah okay, good to know that rolling upgrades are well supported | 21:34 |
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| amartin | have you run into any configuration issues for recovering from head node failures (e.g. a head node kernel panics, are the live VMs able to migrate automagically)? | 21:36 |
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| exed | openstack quantum/neutron host_routes are equal to dhcp static routes or did i misunderstand to configuration? | 21:39 |
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| booi | when i push new ring files, do i need to restart anything? | 21:43 |
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| booi | for swift that is. | 21:43 |
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| amartin | thanks for all of the help! | 21:53 |
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| clayb | amartin Good luck! | 21:59 |
| clayb | It's always cool to help explain why my group does what it does | 21:59 |
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| chrisd__ | I'm preparing to create an OpenStack setup, an I'm trying to better understand the block and object storage parts. Let's say I have two SSDs and eight HDDs (in addition to the system boot disk). Will it be easy to say "use the SSDs for this block device" and "use the HDDs for this block device" ? Should I be using a single FS for the HDDs or multiple RAID1s ? Is there a particulary good place to find documentation or answers relating | 22:29 |
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| chrisd__ | As I read more, I'm guessing everyone is at OpenStack Summit. | 22:44 |
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| carnaler | hello room | 23:01 |
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| mdorman | submitted my first patch to review.openstack.org. do i need to do something special to notify people to review it? Or will someone generally notice eventually? | 23:38 |
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| vkmc | mdorman, Did you followed GerritWorkflow steps? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Gerrit_Workflow | 23:44 |
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| ekarlso | vkmc: did you go to hk ? :) | 23:45 |
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| mdorman | i did, except i did not make a local branch. i just did it under master. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/55705/ | 23:46 |
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| vkmc | ekarlso, No :/ Too many deadlines... What about you? :) | 23:47 |
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| ekarlso | awww | 23:48 |
| ekarlso | nope, didn't get to go :( | 23:48 |
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| ekarlso | started in HP too late to get to go | 23:48 |
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| vkmc | mdorman, You should make the local branch and add which bug it fixes (Fixes bug: bug-no) in the commit message in order to Launchpad to track it | 23:49 |
| mdorman | it's not addressing a particular bug | 23:49 |
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| mdorman | it just adds functionality | 23:49 |
| vkmc | ekarlso, Boo, I saw some pictures and comments about it, sounded like it was an awesome summit :) | 23:50 |
| vkmc | ekarlso, I was going through the Etherpads now | 23:50 |
| vkmc | mdorman, If it just add functionality, you should file a bug with the mentioned functionality and then submit the fix | 23:50 |
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| mdorman | vkmc: gottcha | 23:52 |
| mdorman | thanks for the guidance | 23:53 |
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| ekarlso | think it is yeah vk | 23:53 |
| ekarlso | vkmc: | 23:53 |
| ekarlso | any cool EPs ? | 23:53 |
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| vkmc | mdorman, Np :) | 23:54 |
| vkmc | ekarlso, Btw, congratz on your new job! | 23:55 |
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| vkmc | ekarlso, I have so many tabs opened.. I was reading this one https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/icehouse-summit-Automated-Dashboard-Generation, great idea! | 23:57 |
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