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d_w | guys help me decide.. i5 haswell or amd vishera for compute node? | 00:05 |
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sputnik13net | i5 haswell | 00:06 |
d_w | and why? | 00:07 |
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sputnik13net | amd bulldozer has 2:1 ratio of integer cores to floating point units | 00:07 |
sputnik13net | but their advertised core count uses integer unit as cores | 00:08 |
sputnik13net | anything requiring floating point takes a dump | 00:08 |
sputnik13net | as a side effect | 00:08 |
sputnik13net | they're also more power hungry | 00:08 |
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d_w | well it is for home test-lab.. so I won't be doing any heavy computing.. so I thought more cores would do better with many VMs | 00:10 |
sputnik13net | your choice | 00:11 |
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d_w | but does hypervisor use floating point for anything? | 00:12 |
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sputnik13net | it depends on your application | 00:13 |
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d_w | sputnik13net: well most of VMs would be simple network applications.. and services.. | 00:19 |
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d_w | question is whether 2 VMs/core (intel) is performing better than 2VMs/2 cores with shared cache(amd) | 00:23 |
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d_w | when scaling to 30-50 VMs per compute node | 00:24 |
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d_w | VMs mostly idling or doing some vnetwork IO | 00:25 |
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pmathews | d_w: I'm not sure how intel vs amd actually pans out, but my gut reaction would be amd. More physical cores means less resource contention when cycles are more in demand. | 00:26 |
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d_w | pmathews: that's general understanding.. if you don't consider that some stuff is shared between cores.. | 00:31 |
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d_w | pmathews: i just can't find tests with many VMs.. all tests show performance of one VM doing various things.. | 00:31 |
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sputnik13net | d_w: you're making a mountain out of an ant hill to be quite honest | 00:34 |
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sputnik13net | d_w: if you feel amd is the better solution, go with it, since you asked for feedback, based on what I know I would suggest intel, either is going to work just fine for what you're describing as your use case | 00:34 |
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sputnik13net | your energy would be much better spent on actually getting things configured and working | 00:35 |
d_w | sputnik13net: i know :) but with private $$ i tend to think 10x.. :) and learning more on the way.. | 00:35 |
sputnik13net | I run my home server on a 7 year old quad core amd cpu and it does everything I need just fine | 00:35 |
d_w | how many VMs run at the same time? | 00:36 |
sputnik13net | at the other extreme I have a 600 core cluster at work that's absolutely useless | 00:36 |
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sputnik13net | the number of VMs is more dependent on your memory and disk than CPU | 00:36 |
sputnik13net | unless you're doing CPU intensive tasks | 00:36 |
d_w | well.. i max mem.. 32G.. | 00:37 |
sputnik13net | I can run anywhere from 3 - 10 VMs on 16GB | 00:37 |
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d_w | and can you move VM from intel to AMD? | 00:37 |
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sputnik13net | yes and no | 00:38 |
sputnik13net | if it's linux vms it should just work | 00:38 |
sputnik13net | if it's windows vms where they load all kinds of chipset drivers and what not, maybe | 00:38 |
sputnik13net | maybe not | 00:38 |
d_w | well if you give them direct hw acces.. | 00:39 |
sputnik13net | anyway, I assert intel is a safer general bet, if you have reservations, then go amd, it ends up not being a huge deal in practice | 00:39 |
sputnik13net | especially for learning | 00:39 |
d_w | well i learn on VMs :) not on host.. and I try everything.. from DEV sw up to network OS VMs | 00:40 |
sputnik13net | things also generally "just work" more often with intel platform than amd in my experience | 00:40 |
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sputnik13net | only thing to do is pick one and try it out | 00:45 |
sputnik13net | or get both and compare and contrast yourself | 00:45 |
d_w | yes.. i just hope I won't have to get bigger flat after too many tries :) | 00:46 |
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sputnik13net | that's what craigslist is for | 00:52 |
sputnik13net | sell it | 00:52 |
sputnik13net | if you don't like it | 00:52 |
d_w | doesn't work from europe | 00:52 |
sputnik13net | oh wait that's US thing | 00:52 |
sputnik13net | hahah | 00:53 |
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sputnik13net | n/m | 00:53 |
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sputnik13net | anyone around familiar with nova-api metadata service and/or neutron flat networking? | 00:54 |
rlindsay | can anyone advise me on the best way to migrate a cloudstack guest instance thats running on one tier of storage to another tier? | 00:54 |
rlindsay | i'm assuming there is some cloudmonkey command ? | 00:55 |
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klync | # glance index ... Invalid OpenStack Identity credentials. | 03:58 |
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eskp | hey, i can't seem to find a way to list VMs that belong to a particular tenant with python | 05:20 |
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eskp | or even on command line, nova list --tenant foo doesn't seem to do it | 05:23 |
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dtaylorBKK | has anyone ever seen this error before in Horizon when trying to access the Volumes tab? http://paste.openstack.org/show/54585/ | 07:16 |
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dtaylorBKK | only happens when cinder volumes exist, if i delete all the volumes the error doesnt happen | 07:17 |
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stan_ivanov | Hello, when I try too boot an Instance from a Volume it gets in Error state, any tips? | 08:22 |
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rezax | hiii | 08:44 |
zhiwei | what are you doing now | 08:47 |
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rezax | rezax: im sitting | 08:50 |
zhiwei | ok | 08:50 |
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kUdtiHaEX | I hate mornings... | 08:52 |
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rezax | why? | 08:54 |
kUdtiHaEX | it's always hard, especially when it's cold outside | 08:55 |
kUdtiHaEX | and it's -5 here | 08:55 |
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amartellone | Hi..I'm finding a comprehensive operation tool for common admin operations (instance migration, instance's logs inspection, planning backup, recovering&replacing VM's volume, monitoring, etc.). Now, I use CLI but it is too much time expensive. Someone can me suggest a tool? Exists it on the market? | 09:21 |
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mikkn | Whenever I try to do something network related (using neutron with Linux Bridge) that gets scheduled on a specific node (it has never worked on this node, though), all of my computing nodes including networking gets taken offline and the change does not go through. The only way I've managed to get the services back up again is restarting the controller. | 10:06 |
mikkn | I have looked at the logs, and I don't really get anything even with debug turned on in either nova or neutron components. | 10:07 |
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mikkn | Yeah, okay... seems RabbitMQ decided to turn itself off because diskspace was too low. :) | 10:18 |
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stan_ivanov | Hello, I want to boot an instance from volume, but when I execute "nova boot" whitout "--image" parameter, but with "--block_device_mapping", I get "Image not found" exception. If I execute nova boot with both --image and --block-device_mapping and my volume on the vda slot the instance boots successfuly from the volume. How can I avoid declaring an image? | 11:28 |
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yossarianuk | hi - simple question - we have a simplish VMware based cloud service that we offer to clients - Does openstack work in a similar way? i.e have a interface to manage nodes + storage, and have a interface for non admin users ? | 12:53 |
yossarianuk | Also can you purchase support for it if needed ? | 12:53 |
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yossarianuk | i.e is openstack more about deploying apps than vms ? | 12:55 |
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cdnchris | yossarianuk this will sound trite but the best way to understand what openstack is is to build it - there are some ways to easily jumpstart a small implementaiton like devstack, rdo, teststack, etc | 13:02 |
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cdnchris | yossarianuk for support I think you need to look at a distribution - similar to the linux model. but someone else here might have a better idea, i'm new to the software myself | 13:03 |
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gfa_ | can i use a single memcache process for multiple OS services? like keystone, nova, etc? | 14:15 |
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yossarianuk | cdnchris: thanks we're getting redhat subscriptions anyway - perhaps I will explore if they support it. | 14:18 |
yossarianuk | and no it didn;t sound trite - there is nothing like testing and installing software to fully understand it. | 14:19 |
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stan_ivanov | How can I provision an instance just from volume, without image? | 14:32 |
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clayb | @stan_ivanov If you have all the boot blocks and everything setup, you could likely export the cinder volume (e.g. rbd export <image> - | glance --container-format raw --file -) | 14:45 |
clayb | If you're using Swift instead of Ceph for images, I'm not sure how to dump the image. | 14:45 |
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smead | Yesterday, Sam-I-Am was helping me with getting my logical volume to be recognized by openstack. I thought I had it, but the web-interface ( admin ), hypervisors tab is still showing 91 GB available for VMs. I have a 4 TB vg available | 15:34 |
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gmi | smead: the storage displayed by dashboard in the hypervisors tab of admin view is the local storage where the "/var/lib/nova/instances" is mounted | 15:39 |
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smead | Sweet | 15:39 |
gmi | smead:did you get help for dealing with Cinder volumes, because that's different | 15:40 |
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smead | Maybe that's what I asked for, but not what I needed :) | 15:41 |
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smead | I don't really have a clear understanding of cinder's role quite yet | 15:42 |
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smead | Is /var/lib/nova/instances | 15:44 |
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smead | where the vm's are created? | 15:44 |
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Underbyte | question: what do you guys commonly use for your backup solution? | 15:44 |
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Underbyte | do you guys use a hypervisor-level solution like Raksha? or a VM-level solution like Bacula/Amanda | 15:44 |
gmi | smead: Cinder is the equivalent of Amazon's EBS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Elastic_Compute_Cloud#Persistent_storage and yes, "/var/lib/nova/instances" is where the root disk of the instances lives | 15:45 |
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smead | Thanks gmi | 16:04 |
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japplewhite | Easy question: What is the command line equivalent of logging in horizon, select the demo project and then select modifying quotas, and finally setting volumes to 20? | 16:07 |
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japplewhite | "cinder quota-update --volumes 20 demo" doesn't seem to do it | 16:09 |
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gmi | japplewhite: try using the tenant ID | 16:23 |
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japplewhite | gmi: the command works it just doesn't seem to do the same thing | 16:24 |
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gmi | japplewhite:what do you mean? | 16:26 |
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japplewhite | well when I do that command I still hit the 10 vol limit on volumes - but when I do the gui operation I don't | 16:27 |
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gmi | japplewhite: are you running Havana? | 16:37 |
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mgagne | japplewhite: AFAIK, cinder quota-update expects a tenant-id, not a tenant-name. | 16:38 |
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gmi | japplewhite:in my Havana env the command works fine and when my user reaches the limit, the Dashboard "Create volume" becomes disabled and it's renamed " Create Volume (Quota exceeded)" | 16:41 |
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japplewhite | gmi: ok thanks for that | 16:42 |
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RodneyB | So, I have just finished an openstack-manuals submission and gone through code review with other reviewers. Is there anything specific I need to do to have a core team reviewer evaluate my work for approval or will it just be done when they get to it? The review is at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/58838/ | 16:45 |
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RodneyB | So, I have just finished an openstack-manuals submission and gone through code review with other reviewers. Is there anything specific I need to do to have a core team reviewer evaluate my work for approval or will it just be done when they get to it? The review is at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/58838/ | 16:51 |
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gmi | RodneyB: ask in #openstack-doc | 16:51 |
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RodneyB | thanks | 16:52 |
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mrproper | Is it possible to run all my OpenStack configuration files from a git repository? | 17:07 |
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Sam-I-Am | mrproper: yo | 17:07 |
mrproper | Hey Sam-I-Am | 17:07 |
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Sam-I-Am | hows life | 17:08 |
mrproper | Good. The lady got back last night. Off work today | 17:08 |
Sam-I-Am | woohoo | 17:08 |
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Underbyte | quick question: i noticed in the ops guide that it said that your cluster will grind to a halt if the RabbitMQ service becomes available for any reason. Does that mean that the control of your cluster grinds to a halt? or do the VM's themselves become read-only? | 17:24 |
Sam-I-Am | control i believe | 17:25 |
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Underbyte | okay so if your control node goes down, your compute node (with all its VM's) is still usable, you just can't do any administrative tasks within the cloud? | 17:25 |
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Sam-I-Am | should be | 17:26 |
Underbyte | cool, thanks | 17:26 |
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japplewhite | Underbyte: which is why some people setup mysql and rabbitMQ with HA | 17:31 |
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Gamekiller77 | Good Day all. looking for advise for where to track down why and instance is not leaving scheduling | 17:32 |
Underbyte | japplewhite: well, i'm just trying to put togeather a BOM for shiny new hardware that our OpenStack installation will run on, and i was just trying to see if a control node needed to be HA or not | 17:32 |
japplewhite | Underbyte: if you need help on it the guys at Hastexo are expert at it | 17:33 |
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japplewhite | Gamekiler77: have you checked the usual culprits like lack of disk/memory resources? | 17:36 |
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gmi | japplewhite:the answer should be in the scheduler's logs | 17:38 |
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japplewhite | gmi: yes nova-scheduler | 17:38 |
gmi | japplewhite: sorry, that was meant for Gamekiller77 | 17:39 |
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Gamekiller77 | japplewhite: is a clean setup of havana | 17:39 |
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Gamekiller77 | gmi: log are clean | 17:40 |
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Gamekiller77 | looking for a command to list info on CLI about instances now | 17:40 |
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gmi | Underbyte: check this out, it might help you http://www.severalnines.com/blog/high-availability-openstack-shoestring-budget-deploying-minimal-3-node-cluster#! | 17:40 |
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gmi | Gamekiller77:nova show instance_ID | 17:41 |
Gamekiller77 | ok thanks | 17:42 |
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Gamekiller77 | gmi: i have cluster control in my setup | 17:42 |
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Gamekiller77 | Underbyte: i thought i told you about them | 17:42 |
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gmi | Gamekiller77:is your instance stuck in "scheduling" ? if the nova.conf for the scheduler has debug and verbose enabled you should see the decision process for sheduling that instance | 17:42 |
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Gamekiller77 | i may have debug off but i check and start it over | 17:43 |
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almjz | Hey, Im a beginner at python and want to start contributing to open source early in my career. Can someone suggest a branch of open stack that is relatively easy for a beginner. | 17:43 |
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Sam-I-Am | documentation :) | 17:43 |
almjz | Thanks sam | 17:44 |
japplewhite | almjz: docs :-) | 17:44 |
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almjz | thanks japplewhite | 17:44 |
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Gamekiller77 | i planning to help in Doc too | 17:44 |
Gamekiller77 | i keep finding stuff in the RHEL side that not right also i have yet to find a very good doc system for multi node setup | 17:45 |
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Sam-I-Am | i just filed a ton of rh docs bugs yesterday | 17:46 |
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Sam-I-Am | although some of them seem related to the packages themselves which come out of RDO | 17:46 |
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Gamekiller77 | Sam-I-Am: i been wanting to know who to file those bugs with | 17:46 |
Sam-I-Am | the RDO ones? | 17:46 |
Gamekiller77 | yah | 17:46 |
Sam-I-Am | there's an rdo project on bugzilla | 17:47 |
Sam-I-Am | however my bugs haven't received much love yet | 17:47 |
Gamekiller77 | oo ok i do that next time | 17:47 |
Gamekiller77 | i feel you | 17:47 |
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Sam-I-Am | which is annoying because one of them is pretty serious | 17:47 |
Gamekiller77 | i should thought some wieght on them ;) | 17:47 |
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Gamekiller77 | send me the bug i send it to my dev team | 17:47 |
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Gamekiller77 | in private chat | 17:47 |
japplewhite | yeah me too - if a Bug is upstream posting it on launchpad won't hurt though | 17:47 |
Sam-I-Am | do you work for redhat? | 17:47 |
Gamekiller77 | no but my company give openstack a large about of money and we have on site dev people | 17:48 |
Gamekiller77 | and RedHat | 17:48 |
Sam-I-Am | do use the rdo packages? | 17:48 |
Gamekiller77 | yes | 17:48 |
Sam-I-Am | cool | 17:48 |
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froobra | Hello, I am trying to install openstack on xenserver 6.2, but I can't seem to figure it out. (using a how to from openstack.org, but I am "missing" something) | 19:22 |
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froobra | I am trying to use the devstack (I think) but it is complaining about sshpass not being found | 19:23 |
xmltok | with havana should i be using openvswitch or ml2 to do a flat multiple vlan network? | 19:24 |
froobra | The how to I am using is https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/XenServer/PostInstall | 19:24 |
froobra | ps. Where are these "Supplemental Packs" this document is referring to? | 19:25 |
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froobra | Aren't there some RPMs or something which can be easily installed on the Dom0 which takes care of everything (or at least a lot) | 19:27 |
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markthomas | froobra: what is the purpose of this installation? Are you just trying to learn openstack? | 19:28 |
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froobra | markthomas: mostly learning, but I would prefer to get rid of the XenCenter so I can manage my environment without the need of Windows | 19:29 |
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markthomas | froobra:If you want to tackle learning Openstack (and you plan to throw the first one away), I would use Ubuntu and follow the Ubuntu install guide at Openstack.org | 19:30 |
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markthomas | froobra: devstack is nice for a test drive, but not really what you're after. | 19:30 |
froobra | markthomas: I already have XenServer deployed .... | 19:30 |
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froobra | markthomas: or are you talking about a DomU? | 19:30 |
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markthomas | froobra: On your controller and compute nodes, try Ubuntu first. | 19:31 |
markthomas | froobra: The Havana guide hasn't been bad at all (except for the ever- ambuguous nova-network section) | 19:32 |
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froobra | markthomas: Is it a big leap from XenSource/XenServer to this cloud stuff? (I tried several cloud systems, but I never managed to get anything running) | 19:36 |
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markthomas | froobra:You'll probably want to start by reviewing the architecture docs and diagrams. Then, walk through an install piece by piece. | 19:37 |
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froobra | markthomas: maybe my environment is too simple to warrant all the cloud overhead? (I only have about 6 servers which share storage via iscsi) | 19:40 |
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froobra | markthomas: 6 dom0 that is | 19:41 |
markthomas | froobra: You definitely want to learn the pieces before trying to deploy in a prod environment. But I have set up a controller and compute node under KVM on a single laptop for learning purposes. | 19:41 |
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froobra | markthomas: sounds sensible | 19:43 |
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froobra | markthomas: so there is no simple way to just dive in | 19:44 |
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markthomas | froobra: it's a complex environment with a lot of moving pieces. "diving in" for me means doing as I described. If you mean, can you set it up in prod and tweak it and have it serving VMs reliably in a few hours...I'd have to say no. | 19:45 |
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markthomas | froobra: that being said, do grab a walkthrough and start on it. | 19:46 |
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froobra | markthomas: I though I had a walkthrough ... I changed docs and I am currently reading http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/ch_overview.html | 19:47 |
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froobra | markthomas: I was hoping that for testing purpose it would be a more simple to start. (like an environment preconfigured with a few VMs) | 19:49 |
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markthomas | froobra: there are platform-specific guides as well. I used the Ubuntu guide. | 19:50 |
markthomas | froobra: If you just want to do that, you can either use Devstack or the cloud demo Ubuntu image. Just don't put anything you care about on it. | 19:50 |
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froobra | markthomas: devstack is not https://raw.github.com/citrix-openstack/qa/master/install-devstack-xen.sh ? | 19:51 |
markthomas | Devstack is http://devstack.org/ | 19:52 |
annegentle | froobra: no it's http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-dev/devstack/ | 19:52 |
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froobra | annegentle: ok. great, with the I knew I was "missing" something. I thought it was like one of the other openstack projects (like horizon, nova, neutron, ...) | 19:55 |
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froobra | markthomas: annegentle: Thanks for pointing me in the (hopefully) right direction. | 20:00 |
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markthomas | froobra: Enjoy! | 20:01 |
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Darkness650 | Hi, I'm trying to get packer working with openstack. packer uses gophercloud and is expecting a 'cloudServersOpenStack' endpoint. Any hints on creating this service and endpoint? | 20:04 |
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pvo | thats a rackspace hint, it sounds like. | 20:04 |
Darkness650 | Indeed | 20:04 |
pvo | just need to create that service in the auth catalogue | 20:05 |
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pvo | service catalogue, that is. | 20:05 |
Darkness650 | What type would I use? | 20:05 |
pvo | "compute" ? | 20:05 |
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pvo | I haven't used packer | 20:06 |
* pvo looking | 20:06 | |
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Darkness650 | Would I give the service the publicURL of nova? | 20:07 |
pvo | you might want to try over in #rackspace instead of the this chan | 20:08 |
Darkness650 | k | 20:08 |
pvo | since it is a rackspace binding | 20:08 |
hobrawker | anyone good at editing horizon code>? | 20:08 |
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sib | Hello, I am having a tiny problem with neutron. | 20:13 |
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Sam-I-Am | tiny you say... | 20:14 |
sib | I have a 3way vm (controller network compute) on my pc. And im trying to install tentants/roles etc on my controller. When I run neutron net-create --tenant-id .... I get Authenication Required | 20:15 |
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sib | the keystone commands all worked | 20:16 |
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sib | I dont knwo if it has to do with source file(but if it did.. i thought it would say "You must provide a username....." | 20:17 |
Sam-I-Am | do any neutron commands work? | 20:17 |
Sam-I-Am | neutron net-list or something | 20:17 |
sib | authenication required aswell | 20:17 |
Sam-I-Am | i bet neutron isnt configured to poke at keystone for auth | 20:18 |
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Sam-I-Am | hold on a sec | 20:18 |
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Sam-I-Am | do you have this "auth_strategy = keystone" in neutron.conf ? | 20:18 |
sib | yep | 20:19 |
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sib | a | 20:19 |
sib | it was commented out, my bad | 20:19 |
sib | I changed it, restarted neutron-server, but still problem | 20:20 |
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Sam-I-Am | what do you have under keystone_authtoken | 20:22 |
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sib | [keystone_authtoken] auth_host = 10.10.10.51 auth_port = 35357 auth_protocol = http admin_tenant_name = service admin_user = neutron admin_password = service_pass signing_dir = /var/lib/neutron/keystone-signing | 20:24 |
Sam-I-Am | sounds about right | 20:24 |
Sam-I-Am | gotta be a config problem though | 20:24 |
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andrewbogott | Can an instance write to its own metadata (e.g. via a PUT to 169.254.169.254), or just read? | 20:25 |
gmi | andrewbogott:just read | 20:25 |
andrewbogott | ok, thanks. | 20:25 |
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tsantero | is anyone in here famliar with the python novaclient ? | 20:47 |
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Sam-I-Am | what about it? | 20:49 |
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tsantero | after upgrading novaclient version i'm being prompted for an OS_Password on clusters, no such password exists. was wondering if anyone else may have run into this or if there was a quick fix, before i dig too deep down the rabbit hole | 20:50 |
Sam-I-Am | whats the exact error? | 20:52 |
tsantero | not exactly an error. its prompting for an OS_Password and hasn't ever in the past | 20:52 |
Sam-I-Am | does your rc file contain the password? | 20:52 |
tsantero | upgrade was novaclient v 2.6.10 -> 2.15 | 20:52 |
tsantero | no it does not | 20:52 |
Sam-I-Am | that might be why | 20:52 |
tsantero | but what is confusing is it never contained a password and authenticaion was successfull prior to the library upgrade | 20:53 |
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Sam-I-Am | dunno what happened there | 20:55 |
tsantero | yeah, i just fixed it though | 20:55 |
tsantero | i set the OS_PASSWORD to the api key | 20:55 |
tsantero | thx for entertaining my issue, tho :) | 20:56 |
Sam-I-Am | sure | 20:56 |
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sib | I am still unable to figure out why authenication required Sam-I-Am ... I check keystone(user-list,service-list) and neutron is there | 21:04 |
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sib | and there is an entry that connects(endpoint with teh correct service id) | 21:07 |
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Sam-I-Am | any sort of stuff in the neutron or keystone logs? | 21:08 |
Sam-I-Am | do your creds work for nova net-list or nova list? | 21:08 |
sib | nova list is empty.. nova net-list gives me server error | 21:09 |
sib | keystone log gives the same.. WARNING keystone.common.wsgi [-] Authorization failed. The request you have made requires authentication. from 10.10.10.51 | 21:10 |
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Sam-I-Am | could be a wrong port number somewhere... | 21:13 |
Sam-I-Am | 5000 vs 35357 | 21:13 |
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sib | I did almost everything with scripts.. so the same erorr should happen in the others.. | 21:13 |
sib | ill take a look though | 21:13 |
sib | in my ovs log i get this: 2013-12-06 21:55:00.355 1780 ERROR neutron.plugins.openvswitch.agent.ovs_neutron_agent [-] Tunneling cannot be enabled without a valid local_ip. Agent terminated! | 21:14 |
sib | but im not sure if same problem or another | 21:14 |
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Sam-I-Am | you need to set local_ip | 21:15 |
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Sam-I-Am | its probably not this particular problem, but is a problem anyway | 21:15 |
sib | out of curiosity, when i run quantum net-create --tenant-id $put_id_of_project_one net_proj_one | 21:16 |
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sib | I am running this from the controller, not the neutron vm | 21:16 |
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sib | (replace quantom with neutron in the create command) | 21:16 |
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Sam-I-Am | ok.. | 21:17 |
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sib | im not sure if that is correct | 21:17 |
Sam-I-Am | well, you put stuff in for those variables | 21:17 |
sib | the other commands in the controller work.. neutron doesnt | 21:18 |
sib | by other i mean keystone, glance.. | 21:18 |
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sib | but if I neutron net-list in my neutron vm, i get "you must provide a username..." | 21:18 |
sib | Should i move my credential file to neutron vm and run from there, or should controller do all this | 21:19 |
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Sam-I-Am | for some reason neutron seems like its not getting the right tokens | 21:21 |
Sam-I-Am | or something like that | 21:21 |
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Sam-I-Am | probably a typo somewhere | 21:23 |
Sam-I-Am | i just dont know where | 21:23 |
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devoid | nova config is out of control | 21:54 |
Gamekiller77 | lol what do you mean | 21:55 |
devoid | 3K lines in the default section, come on folks. | 21:55 |
Gamekiller77 | yah you saw that | 21:55 |
Gamekiller77 | only need like 10 i think | 21:55 |
Gamekiller77 | we are bout to start deleting section from it | 21:55 |
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Sam-I-Am | which distro of the nova config? | 21:57 |
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Sam-I-Am | some are just full of defaults | 21:57 |
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devoid | ubuntu | 21:58 |
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Gamekiller77 | the RDO one is 894 lines | 21:58 |
Gamekiller77 | in havana | 21:58 |
Gamekiller77 | any rabbitMQ people here having a problem with a node not joining a cluster that already running | 21:58 |
Gamekiller77 | partners show it running and cookies hash is == | 21:59 |
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Gamekiller77 | about the drop some thermight on my whole rabbitmq cluster | 22:01 |
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Sam-I-Am | did you try turning it off and then on again? :) | 22:01 |
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Sam-I-Am | annegentle: i remember seeing some sort of openstack docs completion matrix. as in... which pieces are known working. i think fifield shared a link with me at one point. do you know where it is? | 22:16 |
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Gamekiller77 | Sam-I-Am: yes a couple times | 22:21 |
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Gamekiller77 | and then again | 22:21 |
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Sam-I-Am | heh | 22:24 |
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Gamekiller77 | ok nuke on my rabbitMQ cluster | 22:49 |
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Gamekiller77 | thank god for PXE installs | 22:51 |
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sputnik13net | anyone familiar with how to get neutron metadata agent working? | 23:13 |
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Gamekiller77 | what the log show | 23:21 |
Gamekiller77 | did you turn on debug and verbose on neutron ? | 23:21 |
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Gamekiller77 | that directed at you sputnik13net | 23:22 |
sputnik13net | Gamekiller77: oh hey, no I haven't turned on logging | 23:23 |
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sputnik13net | let me try that | 23:23 |
Gamekiller77 | yah i found it to help a lot | 23:23 |
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Gamekiller77 | the Trace stack will tell you pretty mush what you want to see | 23:23 |
sputnik13net | ok | 23:23 |
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sputnik13net | well, is the metadata agent supposed to be running on the compute node or the nova api node? | 23:24 |
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Gamekiller77 | are you running multi node or all in one box | 23:25 |
sputnik13net | multi node | 23:25 |
sputnik13net | I have all services on a single controller except nova-compute and cinder-volume | 23:25 |
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sputnik13net | nova-compute and cinder-volume are on individual nodes, with neutron doing a flat network | 23:26 |
sputnik13net | no tunneling | 23:26 |
Gamekiller77 | where is your neutron server | 23:26 |
Gamekiller77 | you should colocate nuetron meta with it | 23:26 |
sputnik13net | neutron neutron agent is on the compute and controller node | 23:27 |
sputnik13net | neutron api is on the controller node | 23:27 |
sputnik13net | I'm guessing you're saying it should be on what i'm calling controller... I'll give that a try | 23:27 |
Gamekiller77 | yes shoiuld be with the neutron-api server | 23:28 |
Gamekiller77 | you have to set up the listening port int he neutron.conf file | 23:28 |
Gamekiller77 | listening IP to | 23:28 |
Gamekiller77 | if not local host | 23:28 |
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sputnik13net | ok, how do I know what to use for the listening port? | 23:28 |
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sputnik13net | is the listening port the port the agent listens on? | 23:29 |
Gamekiller77 | it defualt | 23:29 |
Gamekiller77 | it like 9191 i think | 23:29 |
Gamekiller77 | or that the API | 23:29 |
Gamekiller77 | what release you on | 23:29 |
sputnik13net | havana | 23:29 |
sputnik13net | using puppet-openstack to deploy | 23:29 |
Gamekiller77 | yah it all defualt | 23:29 |
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sputnik13net | ok | 23:29 |
Gamekiller77 | ok | 23:29 |
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Gamekiller77 | RDO or ubuntu packages | 23:30 |
sputnik13net | sorry what's rdo? | 23:30 |
Gamekiller77 | redhats | 23:30 |
sputnik13net | I'm using the ubuntu cloud repo | 23:30 |
sputnik13net | ubuntu 12.04.3 | 23:30 |
Gamekiller77 | ok | 23:30 |
Gamekiller77 | sorry not on ubuntu | 23:30 |
Gamekiller77 | did you read the doc for neutron | 23:30 |
sputnik13net | ic, well they should be pretty similar no? | 23:30 |
Gamekiller77 | very well written for ubuntu | 23:30 |
Gamekiller77 | sorta | 23:30 |
sputnik13net | I did, but I was a bit confused because there's documentation in multiple documents and they all talk from a different angle/perspective | 23:31 |
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Gamekiller77 | yah all in one and dedicated | 23:31 |
Gamekiller77 | your falling the dedicated sorta | 23:32 |
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sputnik13net | ok | 23:32 |
Gamekiller77 | you have differnt KVM nodes right | 23:32 |
sputnik13net | yes, nova-compute is running on dedicated nodes | 23:32 |
Gamekiller77 | yah then use dedecated install | 23:32 |
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sputnik13net | Gamekiller77: ok, I'll give this a try, thank you for your input | 23:33 |
Gamekiller77 | nah just trying to give back for all the help i gotten | 23:34 |
sputnik13net | Gamekiller77: well, not everyone pays forward, so thanks :) | 23:34 |
Gamekiller77 | yah while sit here trying to get my setup to work | 23:35 |
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Gamekiller77 | the other trick sputnik13net is to run the service at the cli | 23:36 |
Gamekiller77 | it a pain but you get a lot more output to tty | 23:36 |
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sputnik13net | Gamekiller77: i c, I'll try that... metadata-agent isn't showing anything at all right now | 23:39 |
Gamekiller77 | ok wait | 23:40 |
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Gamekiller77 | metadata-agent for neutron right | 23:40 |
Gamekiller77 | there also one for nova | 23:40 |
sputnik13net | yes neutron | 23:40 |
Gamekiller77 | if you using nuetron you have to use the neutron | 23:40 |
sputnik13net | yup, using neutron metadata agent :) | 23:40 |
Gamekiller77 | ok | 23:41 |
Gamekiller77 | in RDO it spelled out neutron-metadata-agent (pid 1806) is running... | 23:41 |
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sputnik13net | woah, metadata-agent has its own debug flag, I tried turning that on | 23:41 |
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Gamekiller77 | yah | 23:41 |
Gamekiller77 | it has it own config file | 23:41 |
sputnik13net | yup I have it running on the controller alongside neutron-server | 23:42 |
sputnik13net | I have it in foreground now as you suggested | 23:42 |
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Gamekiller77 | i just saw i never configed it | 23:44 |
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Gamekiller77 | odd to see it working | 23:44 |
Gamekiller77 | ok pointing my keystone server now | 23:45 |
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sputnik13net | hmm, not working | 23:48 |
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sputnik13net | I see what the problem is | 23:50 |
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sputnik13net | the packet never gets to the controller because of the flat networking | 23:50 |
sputnik13net | I suspected as much and tcpdump confirms it | 23:50 |
sputnik13net | bummer | 23:50 |
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