Friday, 2013-12-06

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d_wguys help me decide.. i5 haswell or amd vishera for compute node?00:05
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sputnik13neti5 haswell00:06
d_wand why?00:07
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sputnik13netamd bulldozer has 2:1 ratio of integer cores to floating point units00:07
sputnik13netbut their advertised core count uses integer unit as cores00:08
sputnik13netanything requiring floating point takes a dump00:08
sputnik13netas a side effect00:08
sputnik13netthey're also more power hungry00:08
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d_wwell it is for home test-lab.. so I won't be doing any heavy computing.. so I thought more cores would do better with many VMs00:10
sputnik13netyour choice00:11
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d_wbut does hypervisor use floating point for anything?00:12
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sputnik13netit depends on your application00:13
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d_wsputnik13net: well most of VMs would be simple network applications.. and services..00:19
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d_wquestion is whether 2 VMs/core (intel) is performing better than 2VMs/2 cores with shared cache(amd)00:23
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d_wwhen scaling to 30-50 VMs per compute node00:24
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d_wVMs mostly idling or doing some vnetwork IO00:25
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pmathewsd_w: I'm not sure how intel vs amd actually pans out, but my gut reaction would be amd. More physical cores means less resource contention when cycles are more in demand.00:26
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d_wpmathews: that's general understanding.. if you don't consider that some stuff is shared between cores..00:31
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d_wpmathews: i just can't find tests with many VMs.. all tests show performance of one VM doing various things..00:31
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sputnik13netd_w: you're making a mountain out of an ant hill to be quite honest00:34
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sputnik13netd_w: if you feel amd is the better solution, go with it, since you asked for feedback, based on what I know I would suggest intel, either is going to work just fine for what you're describing as your use case00:34
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sputnik13netyour energy would be much better spent on actually getting things configured and working00:35
d_wsputnik13net: i know :) but with private $$ i tend to think 10x.. :) and learning more on the way..00:35
sputnik13netI run my home server on a 7 year old quad core amd cpu and it does everything I need just fine00:35
d_whow many VMs run at the same time?00:36
sputnik13netat the other extreme I have a 600 core cluster at work that's absolutely useless00:36
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sputnik13netthe number of VMs is more dependent on your memory and disk than CPU00:36
sputnik13netunless you're doing CPU intensive tasks00:36
d_wwell.. i max mem.. 32G..00:37
sputnik13netI can run anywhere from 3 - 10 VMs on 16GB00:37
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d_wand can you move VM from intel to AMD?00:37
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sputnik13netyes and no00:38
sputnik13netif it's linux vms it should just work00:38
sputnik13netif it's windows vms where they load all kinds of chipset drivers and what not, maybe00:38
sputnik13netmaybe not00:38
d_wwell if you give them direct hw acces..00:39
sputnik13netanyway, I assert intel is a safer general bet, if you have reservations, then go amd, it ends up not being a huge deal in practice00:39
sputnik13netespecially for learning00:39
d_wwell i learn on VMs :) not on host.. and I try everything.. from DEV sw up to network OS VMs00:40
sputnik13netthings also generally "just work" more often with intel platform than amd in my experience00:40
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sputnik13netonly thing to do is pick one and try it out00:45
sputnik13netor get both and compare and contrast yourself00:45
d_wyes.. i just hope I won't have to get bigger flat after too many tries :)00:46
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sputnik13netthat's what craigslist is for00:52
sputnik13netsell it00:52
sputnik13netif you don't like it00:52
d_wdoesn't work from europe00:52
sputnik13netoh wait that's  US thing00:52
sputnik13nethahah00:53
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sputnik13netn/m00:53
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sputnik13netanyone around familiar with nova-api metadata service and/or neutron flat networking?00:54
rlindsaycan anyone advise me on the best way to migrate a cloudstack guest instance thats running on one tier of storage to another tier?00:54
rlindsayi'm assuming there is some cloudmonkey command ?00:55
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xmltokthe neutron wiki page links to the neutron admin guide at http://docs.openstack.org/incubation/openstack-network/admin/content/ but that forwards me to the normal openstack admin guide, is that right? i am trying to find documentation on multiple flat networks and if i can use the same interface for data and external networks00:59
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mrproperSam-I-Am: Hey again03:17
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klynci'm trying to get this single-node install of grizzly working ... `keystone user-get glance` shows tenant_id as null, I think that should be "service" but I can't see how to update that from bash or the mysql prompt. any idea what I'm missing?03:57
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klync# glance index ... Invalid OpenStack Identity credentials.03:58
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mrproperSam-I-Am: You there?04:02
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eskphey, i can't seem to find a way to list VMs that belong to a particular tenant with python05:20
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eskpor even on command line, nova list --tenant foo doesn't seem to do it05:23
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dtaylorBKKhas anyone ever seen this error before in Horizon when trying to access the Volumes tab? http://paste.openstack.org/show/54585/07:16
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dtaylorBKKonly happens when cinder volumes exist, if i delete all the volumes the error doesnt happen07:17
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stan_ivanovHello, when I try too boot an Instance from a Volume it gets in Error state, any tips?08:22
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rezaxhiii08:44
zhiweiwhat are you doing now08:47
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rezaxrezax: im sitting08:50
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kUdtiHaEXI hate mornings...08:52
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rezaxwhy?08:54
kUdtiHaEXit's always hard, especially when it's cold outside08:55
kUdtiHaEXand it's -5 here08:55
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amartelloneHi..I'm finding a comprehensive operation tool for common admin operations (instance migration, instance's logs inspection, planning backup, recovering&replacing VM's volume, monitoring, etc.). Now, I use CLI but it is too much time expensive. Someone can me suggest a tool? Exists it on the market?09:21
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mikknWhenever I try to do something network related (using neutron with Linux Bridge) that gets scheduled on a specific node (it has never worked on this node, though), all of my computing nodes including networking gets taken offline and the change does not go through. The only way I've managed to get the services back up again is restarting the controller.10:06
mikknI have looked at the logs, and I don't really get anything even with debug turned on in either nova or neutron components.10:07
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mikknYeah, okay... seems RabbitMQ decided to turn itself off because diskspace was too low. :)10:18
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stan_ivanovHello, I want to boot an instance from volume, but when I execute "nova boot" whitout "--image" parameter, but with "--block_device_mapping", I get "Image not found" exception. If I execute nova boot with both --image and --block-device_mapping and my volume on the vda slot the instance boots successfuly from the volume. How can I avoid declaring an image?11:28
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yossarianukhi - simple question - we have a simplish VMware based cloud service that we offer to clients - Does openstack work in a similar way? i.e have a interface to manage nodes + storage, and have a interface for non admin users ?12:53
yossarianukAlso can you purchase support for it if needed ?12:53
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yossarianuki.e is openstack more about deploying apps than vms ?12:55
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cdnchrisyossarianuk this will sound trite but the best way to understand what openstack is is to build it - there are some ways to easily jumpstart a small implementaiton like devstack, rdo, teststack, etc13:02
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cdnchrisyossarianuk for support I think you need to look at a distribution - similar to the linux model. but someone else here might have a better idea, i'm new to the software myself13:03
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gfa_can i use a single memcache process for multiple OS services? like keystone, nova, etc?14:15
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yossarianukcdnchris: thanks we're getting redhat subscriptions anyway - perhaps I will explore if they support it.14:18
yossarianukand no it didn;t sound trite - there is nothing like testing and installing software to fully understand it.14:19
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stan_ivanovHow can I provision an instance just from volume, without image?14:32
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clayb@stan_ivanov If you have all the boot blocks and everything setup, you could likely export the cinder volume (e.g. rbd export <image> - | glance --container-format raw --file -)14:45
claybIf you're using Swift instead of Ceph for images, I'm not sure how to dump the image.14:45
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smeadYesterday, Sam-I-Am was helping me with getting my logical volume to be recognized by openstack.  I thought I had it, but the web-interface ( admin ), hypervisors tab is still showing 91 GB available for VMs.  I have a 4 TB vg available15:34
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gmismead: the storage displayed by dashboard in the hypervisors tab of admin view is the local storage where the "/var/lib/nova/instances" is mounted15:39
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smeadSweet15:39
gmismead:did you get help for dealing with Cinder volumes, because that's different15:40
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smeadMaybe that's what I asked for, but not what I needed :)15:41
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smeadI don't really have a clear understanding of cinder's role quite yet15:42
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smeadIs /var/lib/nova/instances15:44
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smeadwhere the vm's are created?15:44
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Underbytequestion: what do you guys commonly use for your backup solution?15:44
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Underbytedo you guys use a hypervisor-level solution like Raksha? or a VM-level solution like Bacula/Amanda15:44
gmismead: Cinder is the equivalent of Amazon's EBS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Elastic_Compute_Cloud#Persistent_storage and yes, "/var/lib/nova/instances" is where the root disk of the instances lives15:45
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smeadThanks gmi16:04
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japplewhiteEasy question: What is the command line equivalent of logging in horizon, select the demo project and then select modifying quotas, and finally setting volumes to 20?16:07
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japplewhite"cinder quota-update --volumes 20 demo" doesn't seem to do it16:09
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gmijapplewhite: try using the tenant ID16:23
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japplewhitegmi: the command works it just doesn't seem to do the same thing16:24
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gmijapplewhite:what do you mean?16:26
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japplewhitewell when I do that command I still hit the 10 vol limit on volumes - but when I do the gui operation I don't16:27
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gmijapplewhite: are you running Havana?16:37
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mgagnejapplewhite: AFAIK, cinder quota-update expects a tenant-id, not a tenant-name.16:38
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gmijapplewhite:in my Havana env the command works fine and when my user reaches the limit, the Dashboard "Create volume" becomes disabled and it's renamed " Create Volume (Quota exceeded)"16:41
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japplewhitegmi: ok thanks for that16:42
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RodneyBSo, I have just finished an openstack-manuals submission and gone through code review with other reviewers.  Is there anything specific I need to do to have a core team reviewer evaluate my work for approval or will it just be done when they get to it?  The review is at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/58838/16:45
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RodneyBSo, I have just finished an openstack-manuals submission and gone through code review with other reviewers.  Is there anything specific I need to do to have a core team reviewer evaluate my work for approval or will it just be done when they get to it?  The review is at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/58838/16:51
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gmiRodneyB: ask in #openstack-doc16:51
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RodneyBthanks16:52
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mrproperIs it possible to run all my OpenStack configuration files from a git repository?17:07
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Sam-I-Ammrproper: yo17:07
mrproperHey Sam-I-Am17:07
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Sam-I-Amhows life17:08
mrproperGood. The lady got back last night. Off work today17:08
Sam-I-Amwoohoo17:08
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Underbytequick question: i noticed in the ops guide that it said that your cluster will grind to a halt if the RabbitMQ service becomes available for any reason. Does that mean that the control of your cluster grinds to a halt? or do the VM's themselves become read-only?17:24
Sam-I-Amcontrol i believe17:25
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Underbyteokay so if your control node goes down, your compute node (with all its VM's) is still usable, you just can't do any administrative tasks within the cloud?17:25
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Sam-I-Amshould be17:26
Underbytecool, thanks17:26
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japplewhiteUnderbyte: which is why some people setup mysql and rabbitMQ with HA17:31
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Gamekiller77Good Day all.  looking for advise for where to track down why and instance is not leaving scheduling17:32
Underbytejapplewhite: well, i'm just trying to put togeather a BOM for shiny new hardware that our OpenStack installation will run on, and i was just trying to see if a control node needed to be HA or not17:32
japplewhiteUnderbyte: if you need help on it the guys at Hastexo are expert at it17:33
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japplewhiteGamekiler77: have you checked the usual culprits like lack of disk/memory resources?17:36
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gmijapplewhite:the answer should be in the scheduler's logs17:38
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japplewhitegmi: yes nova-scheduler17:38
gmijapplewhite: sorry, that was meant for Gamekiller7717:39
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Gamekiller77japplewhite: is a clean setup of havana17:39
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Gamekiller77gmi: log are clean17:40
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Gamekiller77looking for a command to list info on CLI about instances now17:40
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gmiUnderbyte: check this out, it might help you http://www.severalnines.com/blog/high-availability-openstack-shoestring-budget-deploying-minimal-3-node-cluster#!17:40
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gmiGamekiller77:nova show instance_ID17:41
Gamekiller77ok thanks17:42
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Gamekiller77gmi: i have cluster control in my setup17:42
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Gamekiller77Underbyte: i thought i told you about them17:42
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gmiGamekiller77:is your instance stuck in "scheduling" ? if the nova.conf for the scheduler has debug and verbose enabled you should see the decision process for sheduling that instance17:42
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Gamekiller77i may have debug off but i check and start it over17:43
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almjzHey, Im a beginner at python and want to start contributing to open source early in my career. Can someone suggest a branch of open stack that is relatively easy for a beginner.17:43
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Sam-I-Amdocumentation :)17:43
almjzThanks sam17:44
japplewhitealmjz: docs :-)17:44
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almjzthanks japplewhite17:44
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Gamekiller77i planning to help in Doc too17:44
Gamekiller77i keep finding stuff in the RHEL side that not right also i have yet to find a very good doc system for multi node setup17:45
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Sam-I-Ami just filed a ton of rh docs bugs yesterday17:46
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Sam-I-Amalthough some of them seem related to the packages themselves which come out of RDO17:46
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Gamekiller77Sam-I-Am: i been wanting to know who to file those bugs with17:46
Sam-I-Amthe RDO ones?17:46
Gamekiller77yah17:46
Sam-I-Amthere's an rdo project on bugzilla17:47
Sam-I-Amhowever my bugs haven't received much love yet17:47
Gamekiller77oo ok i do that next time17:47
Gamekiller77i feel you17:47
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Sam-I-Amwhich is annoying because one of them is pretty serious17:47
Gamekiller77i should thought some wieght on them ;)17:47
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Gamekiller77send me the bug i send it to my dev team17:47
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Gamekiller77in private chat17:47
japplewhiteyeah me too - if a Bug is upstream posting it on launchpad won't hurt though17:47
Sam-I-Amdo you work for redhat?17:47
Gamekiller77no but my company give openstack a large about of money and we have on site dev people17:48
Gamekiller77and RedHat17:48
Sam-I-Amdo use the rdo packages?17:48
Gamekiller77yes17:48
Sam-I-Amcool17:48
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froobraHello, I am trying to install openstack on xenserver 6.2, but I can't seem to figure it out. (using a how to from openstack.org, but I am "missing" something)19:22
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froobraI am trying to use the devstack (I think) but it is complaining about sshpass not being found19:23
xmltokwith havana should i be using openvswitch or ml2 to do a flat multiple vlan network?19:24
froobraThe how to I am using is https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/XenServer/PostInstall19:24
froobraps. Where are these "Supplemental Packs" this document is referring to?19:25
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froobraAren't there some RPMs or something which can be easily installed on the Dom0 which takes care of everything (or at least a lot)19:27
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markthomasfroobra: what is the purpose of this installation?  Are you just trying to learn openstack?19:28
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froobramarkthomas: mostly learning, but I would prefer to get rid of the XenCenter so I can manage my environment without the need of Windows19:29
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markthomasfroobra:If you want to tackle learning Openstack (and you plan to throw the first one away), I would use Ubuntu and follow the Ubuntu install guide at Openstack.org19:30
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markthomasfroobra: devstack is nice for a test drive, but not really what you're after.19:30
froobramarkthomas: I already have XenServer deployed ....19:30
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froobramarkthomas: or are you talking about a DomU?19:30
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markthomasfroobra: On your controller and compute nodes, try Ubuntu first.19:31
markthomasfroobra: The Havana guide hasn't been bad at all (except for the ever- ambuguous nova-network section)19:32
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froobramarkthomas: Is it a big leap from XenSource/XenServer to this cloud stuff? (I tried several cloud systems, but I never managed to get anything running)19:36
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markthomasfroobra:You'll probably want to start by reviewing the architecture docs and diagrams.  Then, walk through an install piece by piece.19:37
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froobramarkthomas: maybe my environment is too simple to warrant all the cloud overhead? (I only have about 6 servers which share storage via iscsi)19:40
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froobramarkthomas: 6 dom0 that is19:41
markthomasfroobra: You definitely want to learn the pieces before trying to deploy in a prod environment.  But I have set up a controller and compute node under KVM on a single laptop for learning purposes.19:41
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froobramarkthomas: sounds sensible19:43
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froobramarkthomas: so there is no simple way to just dive in19:44
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markthomasfroobra: it's a complex environment with a lot of moving pieces.  "diving in" for me means doing as I described.  If you mean, can you set it up in prod and tweak it and have it serving VMs reliably in a few hours...I'd have to say no.19:45
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markthomasfroobra: that being said, do grab a walkthrough and start on it.19:46
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froobramarkthomas: I though I had a walkthrough ... I changed docs and I am currently reading http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/ch_overview.html19:47
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froobramarkthomas: I was hoping that for testing purpose it would be a more simple to start. (like an environment preconfigured with a few VMs)19:49
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markthomasfroobra: there are platform-specific guides as well.  I used the Ubuntu guide.19:50
markthomasfroobra: If you just want to do that, you can either use Devstack or the cloud demo Ubuntu image.  Just don't put anything you care about on it.19:50
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froobramarkthomas: devstack is not https://raw.github.com/citrix-openstack/qa/master/install-devstack-xen.sh ?19:51
markthomasDevstack is http://devstack.org/19:52
annegentlefroobra: no it's http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-dev/devstack/19:52
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froobraannegentle: ok. great, with the I knew I was "missing" something. I thought it was like one of the other openstack projects (like horizon, nova, neutron, ...)19:55
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froobramarkthomas: annegentle: Thanks for pointing me in the (hopefully) right direction.20:00
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markthomasfroobra: Enjoy!20:01
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Darkness650Hi, I'm trying to get packer working with openstack.  packer uses gophercloud and is expecting a 'cloudServersOpenStack' endpoint.  Any hints on creating this service and endpoint?20:04
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pvothats a rackspace hint, it sounds like.20:04
Darkness650Indeed20:04
pvojust need to create that service in the auth catalogue20:05
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pvoservice catalogue, that is.20:05
Darkness650What type would I use?20:05
pvo"compute" ?20:05
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pvoI haven't used packer20:06
* pvo looking20:06
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Darkness650Would I give the service the publicURL of nova?20:07
pvoyou might want to try over in #rackspace instead of the this chan20:08
Darkness650k20:08
pvosince it is a rackspace binding20:08
hobrawkeranyone good at editing horizon code>?20:08
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sibHello, I am having a tiny problem with neutron.20:13
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Sam-I-Amtiny you say...20:14
sibI have a 3way vm (controller network compute) on my pc. And im trying to install tentants/roles etc on my controller. When I run neutron net-create --tenant-id .... I get Authenication Required20:15
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sibthe keystone commands all worked20:16
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sibI dont knwo if it has to do with source file(but if it did.. i thought it would say "You must provide a username....."20:17
Sam-I-Amdo any neutron commands work?20:17
Sam-I-Amneutron net-list or something20:17
sibauthenication required aswell20:17
Sam-I-Ami bet neutron isnt configured to poke at keystone for auth20:18
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Sam-I-Amhold on a sec20:18
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Sam-I-Amdo you have this "auth_strategy = keystone" in neutron.conf ?20:18
sibyep20:19
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siba20:19
sibit was commented out, my bad20:19
sibI changed it, restarted neutron-server, but still problem20:20
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Sam-I-Amwhat do you have under keystone_authtoken20:22
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sib[keystone_authtoken] auth_host = 10.10.10.51 auth_port = 35357 auth_protocol = http admin_tenant_name = service admin_user = neutron admin_password = service_pass signing_dir = /var/lib/neutron/keystone-signing20:24
Sam-I-Amsounds about right20:24
Sam-I-Amgotta be a config problem though20:24
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andrewbogottCan an instance write to its own metadata (e.g. via a PUT to 169.254.169.254), or just read?20:25
gmiandrewbogott:just read20:25
andrewbogottok, thanks.20:25
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tsanterois anyone in here famliar with the python novaclient ?20:47
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Sam-I-Amwhat about it?20:49
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tsanteroafter upgrading novaclient version i'm being prompted for an OS_Password on clusters, no such password exists. was wondering if anyone else may have run into this or if there was a quick fix, before i dig too deep down the rabbit hole20:50
Sam-I-Amwhats the exact error?20:52
tsanteronot exactly an error. its prompting for an OS_Password and hasn't ever in the past20:52
Sam-I-Amdoes your rc file contain the password?20:52
tsanteroupgrade was novaclient v 2.6.10 -> 2.1520:52
tsanterono it does not20:52
Sam-I-Amthat might be why20:52
tsanterobut what is confusing is it never contained a password and authenticaion was successfull prior to the library upgrade20:53
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Sam-I-Amdunno what happened there20:55
tsanteroyeah, i just fixed it though20:55
tsanteroi set the OS_PASSWORD to the api key20:55
tsanterothx for entertaining my issue, tho :)20:56
Sam-I-Amsure20:56
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sibI am still unable to figure out why authenication required Sam-I-Am ... I check keystone(user-list,service-list) and neutron is there21:04
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siband there is an entry that connects(endpoint with teh correct service id)21:07
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Sam-I-Amany sort of stuff in the neutron or keystone logs?21:08
Sam-I-Amdo your creds work for nova net-list or nova list?21:08
sibnova list is empty.. nova net-list gives me server error21:09
sibkeystone log gives the same..  WARNING keystone.common.wsgi [-] Authorization failed. The request you have made requires authentication. from 10.10.10.5121:10
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Sam-I-Amcould be a wrong port number somewhere...21:13
Sam-I-Am5000 vs 3535721:13
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sibI did almost everything with scripts.. so the same erorr should happen in the others..21:13
sibill take a look though21:13
sibin my ovs log i get this: 2013-12-06 21:55:00.355 1780 ERROR neutron.plugins.openvswitch.agent.ovs_neutron_agent [-] Tunneling cannot be enabled without a valid local_ip. Agent terminated!21:14
sibbut im not sure if same problem or another21:14
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Sam-I-Amyou need to set local_ip21:15
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Sam-I-Amits probably not this particular problem, but is a problem anyway21:15
sibout of curiosity, when i run quantum net-create --tenant-id $put_id_of_project_one net_proj_one21:16
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sibI am running this from the controller, not the neutron vm21:16
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sib(replace quantom with neutron in the create command)21:16
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Sam-I-Amok..21:17
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sibim not sure if that is correct21:17
Sam-I-Amwell, you put stuff in for those variables21:17
sibthe other commands in the controller work.. neutron doesnt21:18
sibby other i mean keystone, glance..21:18
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sibbut if I neutron net-list in my neutron vm, i get "you must provide a username..."21:18
sibShould i move my credential file to neutron vm and run from there, or should controller do all this21:19
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Sam-I-Amfor some reason neutron seems like its not getting the right tokens21:21
Sam-I-Amor something like that21:21
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Sam-I-Amprobably a typo somewhere21:23
Sam-I-Ami just dont know where21:23
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devoidnova config is out of control21:54
Gamekiller77lol what do you mean21:55
devoid3K lines in the default section, come on folks.21:55
Gamekiller77yah you saw that21:55
Gamekiller77only need like 10 i think21:55
Gamekiller77we are bout to start deleting section from it21:55
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Sam-I-Amwhich distro of the nova config?21:57
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Sam-I-Amsome are just full of defaults21:57
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devoidubuntu21:58
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Gamekiller77the RDO one is 894 lines21:58
Gamekiller77in havana21:58
Gamekiller77any rabbitMQ people here having a problem with a node not joining a cluster that already running21:58
Gamekiller77partners show it running and cookies hash is ==21:59
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Gamekiller77about the drop some thermight  on my whole rabbitmq cluster22:01
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Sam-I-Amdid you try turning it off and then on again? :)22:01
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Sam-I-Amannegentle: i remember seeing some sort of openstack docs completion matrix.  as in... which pieces are known working.  i think fifield shared a link with me at one point.  do you know where it is?22:16
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Gamekiller77Sam-I-Am: yes a couple times22:21
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Gamekiller77and then again22:21
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Gamekiller77ok nuke on my rabbitMQ cluster22:49
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Gamekiller77thank god for PXE installs22:51
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sputnik13netanyone familiar with how to get neutron metadata agent working?23:13
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Gamekiller77what the log show23:21
Gamekiller77did you turn on debug and verbose on neutron ?23:21
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Gamekiller77that directed at you sputnik13net23:22
sputnik13netGamekiller77: oh hey, no I haven't turned on logging23:23
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sputnik13netlet me try that23:23
Gamekiller77yah i found it to help a lot23:23
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Gamekiller77the Trace stack will tell you pretty mush what you want to see23:23
sputnik13netok23:23
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sputnik13netwell, is the metadata agent supposed to be running on the compute node or the nova api node?23:24
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Gamekiller77are you running multi node or all in one box23:25
sputnik13netmulti node23:25
sputnik13netI have all services on a single controller except nova-compute and cinder-volume23:25
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sputnik13netnova-compute and cinder-volume are on individual nodes, with neutron doing a flat network23:26
sputnik13netno tunneling23:26
Gamekiller77where is your neutron server23:26
Gamekiller77you should colocate nuetron meta with it23:26
sputnik13netneutron neutron agent is on the compute and controller node23:27
sputnik13netneutron api is on the controller node23:27
sputnik13netI'm guessing you're saying it should be on what i'm calling controller...  I'll give that a try23:27
Gamekiller77yes shoiuld be with the neutron-api server23:28
Gamekiller77you have to set up the listening port int he neutron.conf file23:28
Gamekiller77listening IP to23:28
Gamekiller77if not local host23:28
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sputnik13netok, how do I know what to use for the listening port?23:28
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sputnik13netis the listening port the port the agent listens on?23:29
Gamekiller77it defualt23:29
Gamekiller77it like 9191 i think23:29
Gamekiller77or that the API23:29
Gamekiller77what release you on23:29
sputnik13nethavana23:29
sputnik13netusing puppet-openstack to deploy23:29
Gamekiller77yah it all defualt23:29
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sputnik13netok23:29
Gamekiller77ok23:29
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Gamekiller77RDO or ubuntu packages23:30
sputnik13netsorry what's rdo?23:30
Gamekiller77redhats23:30
sputnik13netI'm using the ubuntu cloud repo23:30
sputnik13netubuntu 12.04.323:30
Gamekiller77ok23:30
Gamekiller77sorry not on ubuntu23:30
Gamekiller77did you read the doc for neutron23:30
sputnik13netic, well they should be pretty similar no?23:30
Gamekiller77very well written for ubuntu23:30
Gamekiller77sorta23:30
sputnik13netI did, but I was a bit confused because there's documentation in multiple documents and they all talk from a different angle/perspective23:31
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Gamekiller77yah all in one and dedicated23:31
Gamekiller77your falling the dedicated sorta23:32
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sputnik13netok23:32
Gamekiller77you have differnt KVM nodes right23:32
sputnik13netyes, nova-compute is running on dedicated nodes23:32
Gamekiller77yah then use dedecated install23:32
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sputnik13netGamekiller77: ok, I'll give this a try, thank you for your input23:33
Gamekiller77nah just trying to give back for all the help i gotten23:34
sputnik13netGamekiller77: well, not everyone pays forward, so thanks :)23:34
Gamekiller77yah while sit here trying to get my setup to work23:35
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Gamekiller77the other trick sputnik13net is to run the service at the cli23:36
Gamekiller77it a pain but you get a lot more output to tty23:36
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sputnik13netGamekiller77: i c, I'll try that...  metadata-agent isn't showing anything at all right now23:39
Gamekiller77ok wait23:40
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Gamekiller77metadata-agent for neutron right23:40
Gamekiller77there also one for nova23:40
sputnik13netyes neutron23:40
Gamekiller77if you using nuetron you have to use the neutron23:40
sputnik13netyup, using neutron metadata agent :)23:40
Gamekiller77ok23:41
Gamekiller77in RDO it spelled out neutron-metadata-agent (pid  1806) is running...23:41
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sputnik13netwoah, metadata-agent has its own debug flag, I tried turning that on23:41
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Gamekiller77yah23:41
Gamekiller77it  has it own config file23:41
sputnik13netyup I have it running on the controller alongside neutron-server23:42
sputnik13netI have it in foreground now as you suggested23:42
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Gamekiller77i just saw i never configed it23:44
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Gamekiller77odd to see it working23:44
Gamekiller77ok pointing my keystone server now23:45
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sputnik13nethmm, not working23:48
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sputnik13netI see what the problem is23:50
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sputnik13netthe packet never gets to the controller because of the flat networking23:50
sputnik13netI suspected as much and tcpdump confirms it23:50
sputnik13netbummer23:50
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