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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Hey | 01:55 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: yo dood | 01:55 |
| mrproper | I just napped | 01:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | i just got home... eating pizza and watching football | 01:56 |
| mrproper | I want pizza | 01:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | lovely plane ride. had someone sneezing on me the whole time. | 01:56 |
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| mrproper | I feel like Im fighting off something | 01:57 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'm not a fan of aluminum germ tubes | 01:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | wish i could jettison inconsiderate people | 01:57 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: juniper or openstack? | 02:03 |
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| mrproper | Juniper right now | 02:03 |
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| Sam-I-Am | boo | 02:03 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i really need to get my J on again, but can't seem to keep everything in my head all at once | 02:05 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Thinking of hitting up openstack this weekend. Get ubuntu going | 02:16 |
| mrproper | I just need to remember exactly what I am using. | 02:16 |
| mrproper | And where I am in the install :) | 02:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | heh | 02:18 |
| mrproper | You around this weekend when it gets f'd? | 02:18 |
| mrproper | Does Ubuntu have an all-in-one easy setup? | 02:19 |
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| mrproper | Or rather, what's recommended if I install bare metal | 02:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | there's no rdo on ubuntu that i'm aware of | 02:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | might be one somewhere | 02:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | there's devstack, but... probably not what you want | 02:20 |
| mrproper | No | 02:20 |
| mrproper | I want for "production" | 02:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | then its the install guide | 02:22 |
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| Sam-I-Am | which at this point isnt half bad | 02:22 |
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| mrproper | Are your bugs fixed? | 02:22 |
| mrproper | I'm thinking of staying with nova-net even | 02:22 |
| mrproper | Not sure | 02:22 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i think the big ones have been fixed | 02:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | looking at the list | 02:25 |
| mrproper | I'm debating if it makes sense for me to use neutron for production ata ll | 02:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, the future is sdn/neutron | 02:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | so i figure i might as well use it | 02:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, the big bug isnt completely fixed yet | 02:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | but my bug report includes the fix, so... | 02:29 |
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| mrproper | Tell them to apply that fix | 02:39 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: its sitting in someone's queue | 03:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | they own the bug | 03:21 |
| mrproper | Oh nice | 03:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | not sure i can steal it, but if i dont see progress i might ask | 03:22 |
| mrproper | It makes sense for someone to review | 03:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | the process is pretty involved | 03:22 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you should fix some bugs :) | 03:26 |
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| mnu | Teju: Yes :) | 09:17 |
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| cn_fans | who knows the djiango . | 09:58 |
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| hackoo | I want to install OpenStack Folsom with Nova Network on Single box. I can't find a guide for the same, I could see guide for 3 nodes but not for 1. Most of the docs have Quantum with Folsom. Please suggest me some good doc. | 10:03 |
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| teju | hi all....i got this error when trying to install openstack havana packages : | 10:32 |
| teju | E: Unable to locate package nova-novncproxy E: Unable to locate package nova-conductor | 10:32 |
| teju | how to fix this? | 10:33 |
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| sc-rm | Hello, I'm trying to install havana on debian wheezy and encounter this error when reaching nova-common | 10:53 |
| sc-rm | error : /var/lib/dpkg/info/nova-common.config: 1: /var/lib/dpkg/info/nova-common.config: Syntax error: "|" unexpected | 10:53 |
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| sgran | zigo: ^^^^ | 10:55 |
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| sc-rm | subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2 | 10:55 |
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| sc-rm | I can do whatever debug thing you need to have to figure this out | 10:56 |
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| sgran | sc-rm: I tried to ping zigo, since he's the maintainer of those packages in debian | 13:17 |
| sgran | maybe he'll turn up at some point | 13:18 |
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| sc-rm | sgran: It seems like the repository for havana on gplhost is giving the error, but when using the enovance.com repository there is no problem with nova-common | 13:40 |
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| sgran | I think zigo is also the gplhost guy | 13:43 |
| sgran | so he'll want to know in any case, I guess | 13:43 |
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| sc-rm | Okay, sounds good | 13:47 |
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| BobBall | Drankis: ping | 13:53 |
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| usergroup | I am playing with DevStack and want to get most of the programs list installed. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Programs gives me links to each, but the installation section has no instructions... Does that mean it's installed already by default? | 17:32 |
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| abhi_ | looking at some info on which config management tool sys admins recommend for setting up openstack as in chef vs saltstack vs puppet | 17:44 |
| isd | Hey - we're getting ready to deploy havanna on some new hardware, and are evaluating what we want to use to orchestrate the setup. We've used puppet for a few test setups with grizzly, and were not particularly impressed. I've been researching things like chef, ansible, and salt, and it seems like the tools themselves are all conceptually pretty similar tools, so our sense is the important thing is just what's best supported. What have people tried and wha | 17:44 |
| isd | abhi_: Me too. | 17:45 |
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| bman | ok so i've gotten openstack /dashboard running but other than 1 page for config opts with little explanation i cant seem to find docs for incorporating aws/ec2 into the system anyone have a link? | 18:52 |
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| jrussell | I have a puppet infrastructure in place, I've tried to orchestrate the openstack setup through puppet but it ended up being easier to just use RDO: http://openstack.redhat.com/Main_Page | 19:21 |
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| isd | jrussell: I'm pretty sure puppet *does* use rdo, at least if you're on centos/rhel. | 19:32 |
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| isd | That's how we did it before. It was always flaky though. | 19:33 |
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| jrussell | You mean RDO uses puppet? It does, but it actually works as opposed to me trying to work particular versions of modules into my existing puppet infrastructure | 19:33 |
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| bman | ok been looking into cloud stack and it looks like aws implementation is fairly new in it correct ( so possibly not 2 baked correct)? | 19:36 |
| bman | i mean openstack | 19:36 |
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| rkeene | From my experience, most of OpenStack is quite immature | 19:37 |
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| isd | jrussell: I meant that the puppetlabs-opentstack modules fetch packages from rdo. | 19:38 |
| isd | Which release are you using? are you using neutron? | 19:38 |
| jrussell | isd: gotcha | 19:39 |
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| jrussell | havana, yes using neutron | 19:39 |
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| isd | So you're just using rdo outside of puppet then? Are you using anything to orchestrate it? | 19:40 |
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| jrussell | isd: correct, using RDO outside puppet, nothing else to orchestrate it at the moment. Just trying to get my VM network to actually work | 19:46 |
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| hartbot | Hi, I'm seeing an error on my nova CLI … somethign about g_boxed_type_register_static … do I ask for help on it here? | 19:54 |
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| hartbot | I appear to have: http://bugs.python.org/issue12901 | 19:58 |
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| hartbot | nobody here huh? | 20:05 |
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| dims | hartbot, pong :) | 20:06 |
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| hartbot | dims: hello | 20:08 |
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| budmang | hey guys looking to spin up openstack soon here.... whats the base recommendation for # of nodes(types) etc..? any good urls? | 21:20 |
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| budmang | though I would bug here before using google. :) | 21:20 |
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| med_ | jamespage, very late on a Friday. Are you around? I'm lookin at this very long thread for a resolution | 21:48 |
| med_ | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack/2013-October/thread.html#1778 | 21:48 |
| med_ | unidirectional neutron network poor performance. | 21:48 |
| med_ | I'm still thumbing through it as there was reference elsewhere of a fix therein. | 21:49 |
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| Gamekiller77 | another bug report for the RDO packages | 22:48 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Gamekiller77: moo. | 22:49 |
| Gamekiller77 | sup Sam | 22:50 |
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| Gamekiller77 | yah found a package missing in RDO for mounting fs utils | 22:50 |
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| Gamekiller77 | been sick all week | 22:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | whoops | 22:51 |
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| Gamekiller77 | yah nasty cold | 22:52 |
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| Gamekiller77 | sam do you know the nova command to list instance on a host | 22:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | i had someone sneezing on me yesterday on the plane ride home | 22:53 |
| Gamekiller77 | havana horizon remove the column where it tell you what host it at | 22:53 |
| Gamekiller77 | nasty | 22:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | so i'm just waiting for that to pop up | 22:54 |
| Gamekiller77 | ah i hate that feeling of knowing it coming | 22:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yup | 22:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | just waiting here... | 22:54 |
| Gamekiller77 | so do you remember the nova command for listing instance | 22:54 |
| Gamekiller77 | on a host | 22:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | brb ohone | 22:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | phone | 22:54 |
| Gamekiller77 | ok | 22:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | nova list --host hostname ? | 23:00 |
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| Gamekiller77 | in havana it this | 23:06 |
| Gamekiller77 | nova hypervisor-servers cas-sjc23-kvm1b2 | 23:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | there is that... | 23:07 |
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| Gamekiller77 | your command got me nothing | 23:07 |
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| galafreysky7777 | Can someone point me to some docs for network configuration in openstack | 23:09 |
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| galafreysky7777 | i am trying to understand how to configure the network | 23:09 |
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| galafreysky7777 | for example I would like to start with a very simple flat network setup and then expand to vlans | 23:09 |
| galafreysky7777 | and then to something more complex using l3 tunneling | 23:10 |
| galafreysky7777 | can you please point me in the right direction | 23:10 |
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| galafreysky7777 | do I always need neutron if all I want intially is to just be able to assign public ip's etc? | 23:10 |
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| lbalbalba | galafreysky7777 ? i guess you can use nova-network as well, but im getting the idea that neutron is the way of the future, so you may be better off spending time looking into that. | 23:16 |
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| galafreysky7777 | lbalbalba: right. Thanks for the repsonse! | 23:17 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Gamekiller77: i dont really know what you want | 23:22 |
| lbalbalba | galafreysky7777: no problem. still figruing oiut for myself how that works out though, so much new tech to get into at the same time | 23:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | galafreysky7777: makes sense to shoot for neutron | 23:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | since everything sdn seems to be plugging into it | 23:23 |
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| lbalbalba | and, as everyone can tell you, 'software defined anything' is the way of the future. ;) | 23:24 |
| galafreysky7777 | lbalbalba: haha I guess so. | 23:25 |
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| galafreysky7777 | the problem is there are so many different versions and recipes out there | 23:25 |
| galafreysky7777 | really not sure which one to use to get started? | 23:26 |
| galafreysky7777 | not too simple and not too complex to start off with. | 23:26 |
| lbalbalba | true. im still looking for the 'one-true-blueprint' or 'best-practice' to use myself. i havent figured it out yet :( | 23:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | do you just want a proof-of-concept to see how things work? | 23:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | or build it from scratch | 23:27 |
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| galafreysky7777 | Sam-I-Am: I'm not sure what you mean by build it from scratch | 23:28 |
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| lbalbalba | dont know about galafreysky7777, but speaking for myself, im looking for an all on one box proof of concept. devstack is nice, but not sufficient for what im aiming for. | 23:29 |
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| galafreysky7777 | well yes thats true. | 23:29 |
| galafreysky7777 | i guess this is how I see it. | 23:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | lbalbalba: rdo is probably a better PoC | 23:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | galafreysky7777: install and configure each component manually | 23:30 |
| galafreysky7777 | btw, I've built a private cloud before and am very familiar with how these thigns are setup etc | 23:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | rather than something like rdo which does most of the work for you | 23:30 |
| lbalbalba | but does rdo teach you enough about what goes on under the covers ? | 23:30 |
| galafreysky7777 | but in the case of openstack there seem to be too many manual configurations necessary in too many places | 23:30 |
| galafreysky7777 | very error prone | 23:30 |
| galafreysky7777 | and thats what I am struggling with | 23:30 |
| galafreysky7777 | in mind there should be a set of config files wherein you can specify all aspects of the cloud | 23:31 |
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| galafreysky7777 | network {subnets, CIDRs, ip ranges} and all apsects | 23:31 |
| galafreysky7777 | and this config gets pushed out to nodes as necessary which are runnign the various services | 23:31 |
| galafreysky7777 | so when I see all the docs I am a little confused | 23:31 |
| galafreysky7777 | I saw the RDO stuff | 23:31 |
| galafreysky7777 | but is that RHEL specific and do I need licenses for that? | 23:32 |
| galafreysky7777 | or will that work with centos as well | 23:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | it works on any rhel-like distro, no licenses | 23:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i run mine on scientific linux | 23:32 |
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| lbalbalba | so is rhelk specific, but no license required ;) | 23:32 |
| lbalbalba | rhel | 23:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | so with openstack there's not really much dealing with config files beyond initial configuration | 23:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | everything is kept in a database | 23:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you can configure things like tenants, instances, and networks using the command line, or do it all in the web interface | 23:33 |
| galafreysky7777 | Sam-I-Am: For example if you look at this link: http://www.rackspace.com/knowledge_center/article/configuring-openstack-networking#quantum-concepts | 23:33 |
| galafreysky7777 | there seem to be a lot of manual steps | 23:34 |
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| lbalbalba | so whats the best single box proof of concept, that teaches you about the config of all the components and the cmnd line in the process ? | 23:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | lbalbalba: i'd say rdo. however, only a manual step-by-step install will REALLY teach you about the process | 23:34 |
| lbalbalba | galafreysky7777: no sorry. im shutting up now and letting you ask your questions | 23:34 |
| galafreysky7777 | :) not a problem at all. more questions the better I guess. | 23:35 |
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| galafreysky7777 | I guess my use case to start off would be this. | 23:35 |
| galafreysky7777 | 3 node cluster | 23:35 |
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| galafreysky7777 | and with a 3 node cluster what are all the services I need to be running | 23:36 |
| galafreysky7777 | keystone, glance, nova etc | 23:36 |
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| galafreysky7777 | how many instances of each | 23:36 |
| galafreysky7777 | and then neutron | 23:36 |
| galafreysky7777 | how many management nodes etc | 23:36 |
| galafreysky7777 | and what should the perimeter physical network topology look like | 23:36 |
| lbalbalba | poc or ha setup ? | 23:36 |
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| galafreysky7777 | lets say no ha for now. | 23:37 |
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| lbalbalba | kay | 23:37 |
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| lbalbalba | Sam-I-Am: so what manual step-by-step install guide would you recommend ? | 23:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | galafreysky7777: keystone and glance pretty much just run on the controller node | 23:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the nodes handling compute/instances run nova and neutron | 23:38 |
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| galafreysky7777 | Sam-I-Am: got it. | 23:39 |
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| Sam-I-Am | lbalbalba: the official install guide for ubuntu seems to work now. i've been trying to fix a lot of bugs. | 23:39 |
| galafreysky7777 | and the db where does that run? | 23:39 |
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| galafreysky7777 | does the db run on the controller node? | 23:40 |
| lbalbalba | Sam-I-Am: this one ? http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/ | 23:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah... although i'd change 'havana' to 'trunk' to get the latest bug fixes | 23:41 |
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| lbalbalba | Sam-I-Am: thanks. guess im off now, changing my skill set from redhat/fedora to debian/ubuntu as i go. thanks :) | 23:44 |
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| lbalbalba | galafreysky7777: i would expect you to be able to run the db on a dedicated node if you wanted to, and not be forced to run it on the controller node ? | 23:45 |
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| Sam-I-Am | lbalbalba: seems to me that openstack sort of runs better on ubuntu | 23:46 |
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| lbalbalba | Sam-I-Am: but but but .... red hat is full force going for openstack ! ;) | 23:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, it is | 23:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | they have their own openstack stuff | 23:47 |
| lbalbalba | well thats only like the way they have their own fedora stuff in rhel | 23:48 |
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| lbalbalba | they have openstack in rdo | 23:48 |
| lbalbalba | and gluster in red hat storage | 23:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | comparing the ubuntu and rdo packages for openstack, i'm finding a lot more weirdness and inconsistencies in the rdo stuff | 23:49 |
| lbalbalba | oh | 23:49 |
| lbalbalba | guess red hat needs to get to work in that case. | 23:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | if you install rdo rather than do it manually, you'll find they magically 'fixed' a lot of the weirdness | 23:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | er, rdo quick start | 23:50 |
| GrantA | Is anyone here familiar with windows password injection via cloudbase-init? | 23:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | my rdo quickstart works fine, but my manual install with rdo packages wont propagate my security group rules to the instance | 23:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | cant figure out why | 23:50 |
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| lbalbalba | Sam-I-Am: thanks, ill guess im gonna install ubuntu now and try out that guide. now back to galafreysky7777's question ? im so sorry i hijacked his question :( | 23:52 |
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| lbalbalba | galafreysky7777: does the db run on the controller node? | 23:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | lbalbalba: if you use neutron, there's one bug fix not yet committed to the docs... but i can tell you what it is | 23:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | lbalbalba: aside from that, i just did an end-to-end install and it worked | 23:53 |
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| lbalbalba | Sam-I-Am: yes, i was planning on using neutron. but im stil installing the os at this point. would that doc bug be fixed by the time that i finish installing ubuntu ? ;) | 23:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | heh | 23:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | only if i snatch it from the owner | 23:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | which i'm going to ask someone about doing if it doesnt get submitted soon | 23:55 |
| lbalbalba | Sam-I-Am: lol. go go go ! :) | 23:56 |
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| lbalbalba | Sam-I-Am: and lets not forget about the doc bug day coming up | 23:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 23:57 |
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