Tuesday, 2013-12-24

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harushimoI'm trying to install openstack00:23
harushimoI'm wondering which linux distro would be good to use openstack00:23
harushimoI know they are many options00:23
Sam-I-Amubuntu or some rhel variant seems to be a good choice00:24
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harushimoI am using ubuntu 13.0400:24
harushimoI'm using a VM00:25
Sam-I-Amthat might work... although 12.04 or 13.10 might be better options00:25
harushimoCan I do a single node install of openstack? does it require more VMs to be created00:25
harushimothis is my first time working with openstack00:25
harushimoI'm trying to understand the technology a little bit more00:26
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harushimoI'm running 13.04 server00:26
Sam-I-Amwell, for a proof-of-concept you might consider devstack or redhat rdo quick-install00:26
Sam-I-Amthe manual install guide assumes at least two hosts or VMs00:27
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harushimoI can create another VM easily. That isn't a problem00:27
harushimoI'm using a single VM right now00:27
harushimook00:27
harushimoI'm reading the install guide right now. They are saying 3 virtual machines00:28
Sam-I-Amif you want to use neutron its the easiest way00:28
Sam-I-Amor should i say least confusing00:28
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harushimoI want to use neutron00:28
Sam-I-Amhttp://docs.openstack.org/trunk/install-guide/install/apt/content/section_networking-provider-router_with-provate-networks.html00:28
Sam-I-Amyou'll probably want somehting like that00:29
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harushimook.  Let me create the VMs first. I'll have more questions00:30
Sam-I-Am12.04 is probably the most tested00:31
harushimoI'm at ubuntu website which ISO should I get for the server.  I was getting 12.04 like you suggested00:33
Sam-I-Am12.04 server works... and do a minimal install00:33
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mrproperhttp://www.deskscribbleapp.com/00:34
harushimocreate 3 vms too because I was reading on the manual. I should have at least 3 VMs to do this00:34
mrproperWoops wrong 300:34
mrproper#00:34
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Sam-I-Ammrproper: nice00:34
harushimoSam-I-am: Is that a good approach?00:34
Sam-I-Amyeah, 3 vms... one controller, one network, one compute00:35
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Sam-I-Ammrproper: so i'm installing havana on ubuntu again00:35
mrproperOh?00:35
mrproperGot bored?00:35
Sam-I-Amgotta test the install guide somehow00:35
Sam-I-Ami also need to install on debian and some suse-like thing00:35
mrproperBlech00:36
mrproperLots of work00:36
harushimoI do the minimal installs on all 3 VMs correct?00:37
mrproperYes00:37
mrproperAll three00:37
harushimothank you00:37
harushimofirst I need to download, 12.04 server which I'm getting00:38
harushimothen I'll start00:38
Sam-I-Ammrproper: i think i can do it in my sleep now00:38
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mrproperSam-I-Am: You can probably write some scripts to take care of half of it00:40
mrproperBut that defeats the purpose00:40
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Sam-I-Amit does00:40
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harushimothe current version of openstack is called Havana?00:59
vvutharkaryes00:59
harushimoIt was mostly or all of it was developed in Python 2.7?01:00
harushimoI heard a lot of people aren't adopting Python 3.x .  Is the openstack foundation still developing a lot of projects under Python 2.x?01:00
harushimojust curious01:00
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jrwreniirc it runs on either01:32
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maskedhi02:30
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maskedim trying to install horizon on joyent smartos, but i'm stuck with an import error when running the django server02:31
maskedImportError: cannot import name base02:31
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Sam-I-Ami dont think that's a supported OS02:32
maskedi've tried editing horizon/openstack_dashboard/api/__init__.py to remove "from openstack_dashboard.api" from lines to juse import base, etc02:32
maskedbut am then met with another following similar error02:32
maskedSam-I-Am, yeah I know it doesn't work, but given the extensive "support" behind openstack from everyone involved i thought it wouldn't help by asking in here02:33
maskedso far i have nova, glance, and just about every other aspect of openstack running in smartos02:33
Sam-I-Amdid you try in #openstack-dev or on the dev mailing lists?02:34
maskedi've left horizon for last and am now just a bit stuck here02:34
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Sam-I-Amcool that you got the other stuff working02:34
maskedoh no.  this was my first port of call02:34
maskedit is like this bug here https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/112562202:35
maskedbut isn't rectified by any of the proposed fixes, i think there is something else i should be doing to avoid this error to begin with02:35
maskedbut i could not be sure, thought someone else might know02:35
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Sam-I-Amhmm02:36
Sam-I-Amyou could comment on that bug to ask about updates02:36
Sam-I-Ambeen a couple of months and the fix hasnt been approved02:36
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maskedit appears the fix was "abandoned" i thought that might have been for better reasoning.02:37
Sam-I-Amprobably timed out from age02:37
harushimoi'm creating the 3 separate VMs.  Would I need to create a separate username for each one of them?02:37
Sam-I-Amharushimo: just create the same normal user on each vm02:38
Sam-I-Amharushimo: most of the install happens as root anyway02:38
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harushimookay I will do that02:39
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maskedSam-I-Am, could be just because i wasn't operating in a virtualenv...  run_test.sh is working nice installing a venv now so fingers crossed!02:48
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Sam-I-Ammasked: ah, cool02:49
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maskedi'm still not clear about the local_settings tho.  what constitutes an openstack service?  the location/ip of openstack services can be defined there as anything other than the default localhost, but what exactly is it looking for? because i have different 'services' or 'daemons' in different zones with different ip's...02:51
harushimowhen I'm doing the server install, should I partition the VM?02:54
harushimoI have install openstack on root anyway02:54
harushimoI can partition it. I want to make sure02:55
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Sam-I-Amroot + swap usually works fine unless you want to use cinder in which case i'd do root + swap + some space for lvm02:55
harushimohow I usually setup ubuntu? It is with boot, swap, root, and home directory02:56
harushimoI don't know if I follow that for a server02:56
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Sam-I-Amnothing in openstack really uses /home02:56
harushimoboot, root, and swap then02:56
harushimookay02:56
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Sam-I-Am2 gigs of ram for controller, 1 network node, and 4 compute node minimum...02:58
harushimoright now, my current 8GB of ram and 10 GB of storage on the VMS02:58
harushimoI'm pretty sure that is enought02:58
harushimoI mean enough02:58
harushimoI may oversizing the controller VM but that is okay02:59
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harushimoit asks me to create a hostname on the server02:59
harushimoI'm getting to the openstack soon03:00
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harushimohow much space should I use for boot, root, swap partition? Is 3 GB enough?03:02
harushimoits a 10 GB VM. It would make sense to follow that partition scheme03:03
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Sam-I-Amyou'll probably want 10 gb minimum on each node... 1 of which can be swap03:03
Sam-I-Amobviously more if you want to run more than a couple of small instances03:03
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harushimoCurrently, my nodes are setup as 8GB of memory and 10 GB of storage space. I can create more instances if I need to03:06
harushimomake sense03:06
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harushimosorry i'm setting up 12.04 on the system03:07
harushimoit is taking some time to install03:08
Sam-I-Amit will do that03:08
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harushimoit shouldn't take that long03:09
harushimomy machine is pretty powerful. it going through all the setup process in ubuntu03:09
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maskedSam-I-Am, sweet! i get the openstack dashboard login page now!03:13
Sam-I-Amcool03:13
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harushimoSam-I- Am: I'm guessing no to this question, do I need to add ssh server, tomcat, VM host software?03:14
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maskedbut this is where it gets tricky because i isoloted rabbitmq, mysql, nova, glance etc from horizon, so i don't know how to tell it to go looking for all that stuff yet, or even if i can or if i'm doomed to put them all in the same vm/zone.03:15
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Sam-I-Amharushimo: ssh is nice so you can get into it, but nothing else03:17
harushimoI can even get that when I build the base system. I'm not too worry about it03:18
harushimoI'll get ssh server03:18
harushimovm 1 of 3 is done03:19
harushimohari03:19
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harushimosorry wrong screen03:19
maskedsweet, horizon is trying to auth against my remote keystone server.. this is very very promising!03:20
Sam-I-Amcool. i need to wander off for a bit.03:20
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harushimoi have the 3 vms setup03:48
mrproper12.10?03:50
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harushimo12.0403:52
mrproperOh that's right03:52
harushimoi did the base build for all ofthem03:52
mrproper12.0403:52
mrproperStart with Keystone, that's the basis of everything. But before that, get things like NTP installed.03:53
harushimoI do this for each node: controller, network, compute03:53
harushimocorrect?03:54
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harushimoI named the nodes that way, so I can follow easier. I can change them later03:54
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harushimohow do I start Keystone?03:54
harushimomrproper: how do I start Keystone?03:55
mrproperDo you have the documentation?03:55
harushimoyes I do03:55
mrproperKeystone will live only on the controller03:55
harushimookay03:55
mrproperDid you setup your hosts file, NTP, etc.03:55
harushimonope...I didn't setup anything yet03:56
harushimoI just finished installing ubuntu. Thats it03:56
harushimoI'm getting into the openstack setup now03:56
mrproperYeah look at the documentation and prep each node03:57
harushimogot it03:57
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mrproperMake sure each of your servers is pingable using the hostname in hosts files04:01
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openstackstatusNOTICE: gating is currently wedged by consistent grenade job failures--proposed fix is being confirmed now--eta 06:00 utc05:31
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openstackstatusNOTICE: fix for grenade euca/bundle failures is in the gate. changes failing on those issues in the past 7 hours should be rechecked or reverified against bug 126382406:11
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hackooI have done installation of openstack folsom, installation was a success UI is up but can not login.06:33
hackoo am getting below error in the logs. (/var/log/apache2/error.log)06:33
hackooPlease see the error in http://pastebin.com/n5DeA2Wv06:34
hackooI am not sure what is broken. I added Ubuntu Folsom cloud archive for apt-get and then followed this doc http://openstack-folsom-install-guide.readthedocs.org/en/latest/06:35
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bma_hey.. iam having a problem with my openstack and i cant figure it out10:54
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bma_basically, i try to launch an instance (via horizon or cli) and it always stuck in error state10:55
bma_i already checked the logs and the only thing they show is they cant consume/publish in certain topics in qpid10:56
bma_i already restart qpidd service and its the same10:56
bma_except, one time, i restarted the qpid, a launch an instance succesfully10:57
bma_but on the next one... it stuck on error again10:57
bma_does anyone knows something that can help me? thnks10:58
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OpenSVKHi11:45
OpenSVKHi Sekletar11:46
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OpenSVK........11:47
OpenSVKHi Sekletar need support....11:47
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sayalihey all! I was looking to set up OpenStack on a distributed system but cant figure out the best architecture to do that. Can anyone suggest a good way to do that?12:13
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ffisayali: See Mirantis OpenStack Reference Architecture (http://docs.mirantis.com/fuel/fuel-3.2.1/) for example.13:23
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sayaliffi: looks good, thanks!13:56
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sayaliffi: I was thinking of not using any tool for the setup. Like all manual setup so does this setup look ok? http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/basic-install/apt/content/basic-install_architecture.html13:59
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mblaszczakhmm14:04
mblaszczakhello all14:04
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mblaszczakmy openstack grizzly is a total disaster after upgrading it to havana. I have a second server with working havana and i have to move all instances from the /var/lib/nova/instances to the new one asap, is it possible? I guess if i simply copy the files my new server wont see those instances?14:07
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Sam-I-Amit will be missing database entries14:10
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mblaszczakyes i know, its plenty of that and i dont have time to recover it14:11
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mblaszczakall of those instances have to be moved into new working havana server14:11
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mblaszczakdoes nova instances can be manually run from the file? Like kvm /var/lib/nova/instances/xxx/disk ?14:18
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ffisayali: You can use this manual provided that your cloud is not big and you don't need HA.14:25
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s3anHey folks, I have been having some trouble using windows cloud-init to set the admin password using the password set in the dasboard,I can only get the random password that gets posted back to the meta service using nova get-password - has anyone here managed to get this working?14:28
sayaliffi: ok. I need a basic setup so I guess it should work. Also i can add the swift configuration to the control node in this too right ?14:29
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sayaliffi: Cuz they have not specified that14:29
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ffisaylari: I think it is better to deploy swift on separate node/nodes, but you can setup swift on control node if necessary.14:38
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Guest35221good morning14:57
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sayaliffi: As in not club it with any other node? so it would run completely separate?14:58
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harushimoAccording to the documentation, I setup the 3 VMs for Ubuntu server15:02
harushimoWould be the next step?  I was reading that controller node contains - keystone, glance-api, glance-registry, nova api..etc15:03
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harushimoWhen I setup the controller node, do those programs need to be install?15:04
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harushimoanyone?15:25
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Sam-I-Amjust follow the instructions15:34
Sam-I-Amthey tell you what to install15:34
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harushimoI am working on the networking interface file. I get stop Unknown instance: networking stop/waiting15:36
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harushimoI did the base build last night do I need to install all of openstack on each node?15:37
harushimothen follow this documentation15:37
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Sam-I-Amthe network doesnt really have a daemon, so thats what it says15:38
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sayaliharushimo: I will be doing the same thing soon so let me know how your setup goes15:38
harushimookay15:39
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harushimoI'm following the doc. It says to configure both eth0 and eht115:39
Sam-I-Amif you're doing 3 node, you'll have eth0/1 for the controller, eth0/1/2 for network, and eth0/1 for compute15:40
harushimoI did eth 0/1 for the controller15:40
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harushimoI'm not understanding the example 2.1 on the network interfaces  on the documentation15:41
harushimosayali: I'm taking notes on the setup. I don't forget15:41
sayaliharushimo: can u share the link please15:42
harushimoI haven't written up yet. I'm still writing it down15:42
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harushimoSam-I- am: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/install-guide/install/apt/content/basics-networking.html15:43
sayaliharushimo: no i meant the document that you are following15:43
Sam-I-Am2.1 applies to nova-network, not neutron15:43
Sam-I-Ami'm working to make that document clearer15:43
Sam-I-Amyou probably want to read this: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/install-guide/install/apt-debian/content/section_networking-provider-router_with-provate-networks.html15:43
harushimocan you send me that link for neutron please: I will book mark it15:43
harushimothank you15:44
harushimolet me take  a look at this doc15:44
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harushimofor the controller node, I have mysql, rabbitmq-server...etc when doing neutron15:46
harushimoI will do that. I have my controller vm running15:46
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harushimofor all the packages mentioned for neutron, do I need to install from source or can I use apt-get?15:49
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Sam-I-Amapt-get for everything15:49
Sam-I-Amthe docs dont say build from source15:50
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harushimothat is fine. I figured that much15:51
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harushimoi'm installing all the packages on the controller.15:52
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Sam-I-Ami gotta go for most of the day15:52
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Sam-I-Amits christmas eve here15:52
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harushimoSam-I-am: same here...have a nice holiday15:56
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harushimoSam-I-am: there is a problem on 12.04 LTS.  It can't locate the conductor package16:04
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Guest92315Hi stackers,  I have 4 hypervisors/hosts in 2 separate networks in FlatManager config and when I create a instance it's getting 2 nics but I want only 1 nic on new instance.  Any idea how I can fix this? can I restrict 1 network to a hypervisor/host and de-associated it with hosts on other network?19:35
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cihhanHi all! I need some help with Openstack installation on multi-nodes on Ubuntu: I cant SSH to VM on the compute node from the controller node. If I ssh from the compute node, no problem though. Any ideas?21:33
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cihhan_Hi all! I need some help with Openstack installation on multi-nodes on Ubuntu: I cant SSH to VM on the compute node from the controller node. If I ssh from the compute node, no problem though. Any ideas?21:38
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lbalbalbarepeating your question every so-much minutes wont result in more people responding to your question: either someone that can help you out is here right now, or not.21:41
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ArminderS-cihhan_: what version of openstack and whether nova-network or neutron?21:43
ArminderS-also you trying to ssh using floating ip or private net of tenant?21:44
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lbalbalbaoh. looks like i missed that: ---> *** cihhan quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)21:46
* lbalbalba feels silly now21:47
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cihhan_ArminderS-: Thanks for your reply, I am using Ubuntu12.04, Havana and nova-network21:52
cihhan_the VM Im using has private IP21:52
cihhan_192.168.22.X21:52
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cihhan_ArminderS-: So what do you suggest?21:54
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lbalbalbaif i understand things correctly, you need to assign a 'floating-ip' when you want to acccess the instance from other nodes; the private ip is meant for instances interconnecting to each other only21:57
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cihhan_lbalbalba: that makes sense but it was not mentioned in the manual21:59
cihhan_lbalbalba: also can i make the instances use dynamic IP?21:59
lbalbalbayeah, i had to figuyre that one out the hard way as well ;)22:00
cihhan_lbalbalba: then any suggestions?22:00
lbalbalbado i understand correctly that you want to use dhcp for the floating ip ? i dont know if thats possible22:00
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cihhan_lbalbalba: well i m at the univ and i dont want to assign static ips since i dont have a range right now. and i dont want to wait for a couple of days for my request to be answered for the static ip range -- bcs of that dynamic ip seems very helpful :)22:02
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cihhanlbalbalba, or if u have any other suggestions, im listening :)22:04
lbalbalbawell if i understasnd correctly, you need to create a floating ip pool/range and then assign ip addresses from that range to the instances. that range can be aloocated in advance by your network admins i guess. can you ask them to assign you a range instead of a single ip in dvance ?22:04
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cihhanlbalbalba, so openstack does not handle that by itself? (sorry im not veyr knowledgable when it comes to network, yet)22:05
lbalbalbaim not very knowledgeable on this subject myself, so otjers are invited to come rescue me here now ;)22:07
lbalbalbai guess that whatever you define in openstack, needs to macth your 'real' network. i dont think software defined networking (sdn) has adanced to that level yet ;)22:07
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cihhanlbalbalba, the reason why im asking is when i had xen installed in my machine it is able to arrange dhcp -- all the instances get a dynamic ip without any problems22:08
lbalbalbaguess that just means that you have a working dhcp server on your real network. the floating ips in openstack are managed by openstack with  a (nat ?) rule on the compute node. it doesnt use dhcp to assign a 'real' address. the floating ip only lives in the firelwall/iptables/nat space, and is not even viewablew from within the vm.22:10
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cihhanlbalbalba, so your suggestion is that i need to find an IP range for floating IPs?22:12
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lbalbalbawell, first off   ---- WARNING WARNING --- im not an expert on this matter.22:14
ArminderS-or you may create a separate network of your own on public interface and add your client pc on that network22:14
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lbalbalbabut yes, my best guess is that you let your network admins provide you with an ip range you can use, and then tell openstack to use that same range for floating ip's, and then assign individual ips from that range to the instances22:14
ArminderS-then you may add that network as public and use it22:14
ArminderS-for floating ips22:14
ArminderS-this way you will be able to access the VMs from your client using tha IP from that network22:15
lbalbalbaArminderS- to the rescue; thank you very much :)22:15
ArminderS-i'm glad to be of some help22:16
cihhanArminderS-, lbalbalba, thanks a lot :) ArminderS-, can you give a bit more detail on how to do it?22:16
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ArminderS-you are using private range in your network, right?22:17
cihhanfor the VMs, yes22:17
cihhan192.168.22.0/2422:17
ArminderS-right22:17
ArminderS-most probably 172.16.22.0 will be not in use22:18
ArminderS-add this network to floating IPs22:18
ArminderS-using range 0-25022:19
lbalbalbayeah. or 10.0.0.0 ;)22:19
ArminderS-then add 172.16.22.251 to your client pc22:19
ArminderS-then you will be able to access those VMs from your client22:19
cihhanArminderS-, I see your point22:20
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cihhanlet me try22:20
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cihhanThank you very much :)22:21
lbalbalbafwiw, i still say he needs to go to the network admins to provide him with a ip range. i doubt the net admins will be happy when random users of the network start to allocate rfc1918 addresses at random22:22
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ArminderS-aye thats the appropriate way to do the things22:23
ArminderS-but if its long christmas holidays and none of net admins is available till new year, this alternate method shall work22:23
lbalbalbatrue. as long as you stick to the same local network. these address wont get routed to the outside22:24
cihhanbtw i have one more question22:25
lbalbalbashoot22:25
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cihhanthe controller can see the compute from 192.168.X.X ip22:25
cihhani dont remember exact values, so i put X22:26
cihhanand the same for the comptue22:26
cihhanit can see that controller with 192.168.X.X22:26
cihhanso if i set the VMs the same ip range with the controller and compute, can both of them see each other?22:26
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lbalbalbayou really should read rfc1918 ;) https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc191822:28
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cihhani should get a network book i think :)22:29
lbalbalbayeah, and so do i.22:29
lbalbalba192.168.X.X is a range that is meant for use on a 'local' network, that cant be accessed from the outside, meant for private use22:30
lbalbalbait wont be routed unto the internet22:30
lbalbalbaso these nodes will be able to see each other, but wont be accessible from the outside22:30
cihhanlbalbalba, my controller and my compute are able to access each other with 192.168.X.X22:31
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lbalbalbaso basically each and every subnet can use 192.168.X.X without conflicts22:32
lbalbalbathat just means they are on the same net22:32
lbalbalba'physical' net, whatever that means these days22:33
cihhanok, so that doesnt mean that if i assign 192.168.X.X IPs to the VMs, I will be able to connect them from the controller?22:34
lbalbalbaif the controller is in the same range of 192.168.X.X  (and wired to the same network), the controller will be able to acess them. but you wont be able to access whatever services you are running on the comnpute node from outside of the network, like from the internet22:35
lbalbalbai guess22:36
lbalbalbabut again --- WARNING WARNING ---22:36
lbalbalbaim not a networking expert22:36
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lbalbalbago to the network admins to provide you with that ip range, and use that range for floating ip's in openstack22:39
lbalbalbathats the proper way. even ArminderS- agreed :P22:40
cihhanok then22:40
cihhani ll try to use an ip range :)22:40
lbalbalbathe basic idea is that the network's configuration (switches/routers/etc) needs to agree with what you configure in openstack22:42
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lbalbalbawell i hope that was helpful in some way22:53
cihhanyes thanks a lot22:55
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