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| h6w | Why is my controller NATing and not bridging? | 00:19 |
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| h6w | I've tried Neutron without tagging. | 00:19 |
| h6w | I've now tried nova-network. | 00:20 |
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| h6w | Same symptoms. Instance can ping out, but devices on the physical network can't ping instances. | 00:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | your tenant network is different from your external network, right? | 00:23 |
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| h6w | Yes. Instances are assigned 10.0.0.0/24 while floating IPs are 192.168.40.0/24 | 00:25 |
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| h6w | The physical network devices use 192.168.40.0/24 | 00:26 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so you have to NAT for that to work | 00:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | bridging would be more of a vlan-only sort of approach... which nova and neutron can do, iirc | 00:27 |
| h6w | Yes. That's what I set up. In fuel the setting is "FlatDHCP Manager" | 00:27 |
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| h6w | Or should it be VLAN Manager? | 00:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hmm, i havent used fuel | 00:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | basically what you want is the vlan mode... in which all openstack does is tag ethernet frames based on tenant | 00:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | your network will handle any routing | 00:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | the other option is using floatingips which basically does dnat | 00:33 |
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| h6w | Yeah. I thought I didn't want floating IPs. | 00:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | then the vlan thing should work | 00:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ideally, vxlan... but your network gear probably doesnt understand that yet | 00:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | vlan has quantity limitations of realistically 2000 or so | 00:36 |
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| h6w | Yeah. That's mainly the problem. I need them to be able to communicate with an old-skool ADSL gateway. | 00:38 |
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| h6w | Ok. Redeploying with a VLAN manager network on Nova-Network. | 00:38 |
| h6w | I thought I was supposed to be avoiding nova-network. Something about it being deprecated? | 00:39 |
| gfnord | /quit | 00:39 |
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| h6w | I tried the same thing with Neutron but I couldn't get that to work, either. | 00:39 |
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| h6w | Wondering if having the "Public" and "Floating" ranges on the same CIDR might be the cause of the problem? | 00:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | there's been talk about deprecating nova-net but it seems to stick around | 00:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | i dont know what the 'public' range is with fuel | 00:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | or what it refers to | 00:40 |
| h6w | Yeah. I didn't get it either. Especially when you also get "External" and "Internal" under L3 Neutron as well as "Public" and "Private". | 00:41 |
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| h6w | It seems to stick Horizon in the "Public" range, so maybe it's the assignment for the nodes? | 00:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | horizon's ip? | 00:43 |
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| swaT30 | hey all, I have a bunch of old floating IP addresses hanging out in my quantum/neutron DB | 00:44 |
| swaT30 | any idea how to clean these up? | 00:45 |
| swaT30 | running latest Grizzly | 00:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | where do you see them? | 00:45 |
| swaT30 | ports, ipallocations tables | 00:45 |
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| Sam-I-Am | 'neutron floatingip-delete' as the tenant in question? | 00:46 |
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| swaT30 | there are ~170 of them :/ | 00:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | write a script? | 00:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats the only thing i can think of right now | 00:47 |
| swaT30 | yea, I'm going to have to find a way to find out which ones are in use. I don't want to bork anything in the DB | 00:48 |
| gfnord | hi | 00:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | i wouldnt touch the db directly | 00:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | floatingip-list should show whats associated | 00:49 |
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| gfnord | ? | 00:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | gfnord: talking to someone else | 00:50 |
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| swaT30 | @Sam-I-Am thanks for the suggestions, I'm going to go with that approach | 01:00 |
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| mrproper | Hey Sam-I-Am | 01:02 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: yoooo | 01:02 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: You should have seen me own someone's problem the other day | 01:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: oh? | 01:04 |
| mrproper | rabbit wasn't authenticating | 01:04 |
| mrproper | Ended up it wasn't in [DEFAULT] or whatever | 01:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | heh, i think i caught part of this | 01:05 |
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| mrproper | It was in [keystone] | 01:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | oops | 01:05 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: looks cold out your way | 01:07 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Not cold, snowy. We got a footish. It's odd. It wasn't a heavy snow, just went for two days straight. | 01:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | looks near zero to me | 01:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | here its not been super cold, but plenty of short snow bursts every 4-ish days which is making tons of black ice | 01:08 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: That's pretty cold, not ridiculous IMHO | 01:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | i almost killed myself just trying to walk around today | 01:09 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Don't do anything. It's the coward way out. | 01:09 |
| h6w | Sam-I-Am: Yes, the IP address of a (currently "the") controller node. | 01:09 |
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| mrproper | Whatever it is, we can work it out | 01:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | one of these days i'm moving away from winter :) | 01:09 |
| mrproper | I went for a walk yesterday. Love me some winter. | 01:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | h6w: i wonder if by 'public' it means how you're accessing the openstack web interface and API | 01:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: i consider winter a natural disaster :) | 01:10 |
| h6w | Sam-I-Am: I'll trade you. We're looking at 40 down here, and 55 in the red center. :-p | 01:10 |
| mrproper | I feel that way about summer, here we ar | 01:10 |
| h6w | Yeah, I think "Public" translates to "API". | 01:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | h6w: are you in the southern hemisphere? | 01:11 |
| h6w | Sam-I-Am: Indeed, far south. | 01:11 |
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| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: You see Juno is the new name | 01:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | that might be a worthy trade | 01:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | mrproper: nope | 01:11 |
| mrproper | Sam-I-Am: Yeah, after Icehouse | 01:11 |
| h6w | Lived in far north Canada last year. It's a piece of cake to live in the cold compared to trying to think in the heat. | 01:12 |
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| Sam-I-Am | h6w: no a/c? | 01:12 |
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| h6w | Yes, but you only *feel* cooler. The humidity and air pressure are still the same. A/C can only do so much. | 01:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | oh, its humid too? thats the part i cant do | 01:14 |
| h6w | And A/C doesn't work so well above 40 anyway. Our one at work completely gives up. | 01:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | is this unusually hot? | 01:14 |
| h6w | No, this is pretty normal here. | 01:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | bleh | 01:15 |
| h6w | It's actually funny. We had a major tourist attraction built by an overseas contractor. Took over a year to build. Lasted 90 days then we hit summer and it started to expand and crack. | 01:15 |
| h6w | They had to pull it down and reconstruct it. Took 5 years. Only reopened last week. | 01:16 |
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| h6w | Oh yay! Deployment complete. *Crosses fingers* | 01:16 |
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| Sam-I-Am | heh | 01:18 |
| h6w | Hmmm. Instance still allocated a 10.0.0.0/24 address. | 01:18 |
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| h6w | Can't access horizon via the 192.168.40.0/24 address. | 01:19 |
| h6w | Consoles don't work. | 01:19 |
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| h6w | *sigh* | 01:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hmmm | 01:19 |
| h6w | Ok. So maybe the field I want is "VM (Fixed)". | 01:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | the vm fixed range is where that 10.x.x.x came from | 01:20 |
| h6w | Currently 10.0.0.0/16 | 01:20 |
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| h6w | Yeah, but it presumes a VLAN tag. | 01:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | what vlan tag is it assigning? | 01:20 |
| h6w | Start:103 End: 103 | 01:21 |
| h6w | Both "Public" and "Floating" have a tickbox "Use VLAN Tagging", whereas VM (fixed) doesn't. | 01:21 |
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| vladis14 | i'm looking for some girls!i'm looking for some girls!i'm looking for some girls!i'm looking for some girls!i'm looking for some girls!i'm looking for some girls! | 01:22 |
| loq_mac | well, *that's* not going to get you far | 01:22 |
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| loq_mac | if it did, i'd have a ferrari and a suitcase full of hundreds by now | 01:23 |
| vladis14 | i like to make sex | 01:23 |
| h6w | Sam-I-Am: The interesting thing is that "FlatDHCP Manager" has an option "Use VLAN tagging" under "VM (fixed)". | 01:24 |
| h6w | I'll try that again. | 01:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | hmmm | 01:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | i wonder if fuel doesnt support bare vlans | 01:24 |
| h6w | But this time I'll put my 192.168.40.0/24 in there. | 01:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | loq_mac: hi, havent seen you in a while | 01:24 |
| loq_mac | i'm here :) | 01:24 |
| loq_mac | been doing family stuff | 01:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | cool | 01:25 |
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| loq_mac | how about you? good holidays? | 01:28 |
| h6w | I'm asking the Fuel guys, but they've already told me previously that they don't have anyone in their timezone to help me, which makes things a bit tricky. | 01:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah pretty good. got some good chunks of time to work on openstack docs. the neutron part of the install guide works for ubuntu and rhel now. | 01:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | hopefully leaving the havana stuff in a mostly working state before shifting my attention to icehouse with ml2 | 01:29 |
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| Sam-I-Am | h6w: e-mail doesnt work? | 01:32 |
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| h6w | Yeah. I'm talking about IRC. | 01:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | oh | 01:33 |
| h6w | So there's an 8-hour period where they don't have anyone awake. | 01:33 |
| h6w | And that just happens to be +1100. | 01:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | which is interesting since the general openstack channels are just about 24 hour | 01:33 |
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| h6w | Yeah. I thought that was interesting, too. But Fuel is not really a *part* of OS...at least not yet. It's more the equivalent of an "installer" in distros. | 01:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | kind of like packstack maybe? | 01:34 |
| h6w | Yes, exactly. | 01:35 |
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| h6w | There are a few different ways to manage installations: RDO, Packstack, Fuel, and then there's custom scripts and a few other ideas. No standardisation. It's extremely similar to the way package management has ended up with a few big names and lots of clusters of standards. | 01:36 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so why did you choose fuel? | 01:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | i've only tried rdo/packstack | 01:37 |
| h6w | Because Fuel offers High Availability rollouts and non-RedHat-based nodes out-of-the-box. | 01:38 |
| h6w | RDO says that they're working on HA. | 01:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i heard that, and it is important | 01:39 |
| h6w | Yeah. For me it's the game-changer. | 01:40 |
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| h6w | There's also a rumour that RDO is working on non-RedHat nodes also. But it's going to be a while. | 01:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | rdo has been kind of weird for me | 01:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | its probably the best out-of-box option for a lab right now, but its hard to get bugs fixed | 01:44 |
| h6w | What's their support options like? | 01:44 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, rdo is just a commuinity thing | 01:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | redhat has an official openstack thing | 01:45 |
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| h6w | One reason I go down this route is because the support options from Mirantis look very similar to our support from Canonical, who fix bugs when you report them and roll them out really quickly. | 01:46 |
| h6w | The timezone thing is going to be an issue. But thankfully we're not in a hurry to have this working. | 01:47 |
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| tbachmanOs | n00b openstack help/question? | 04:22 |
| tbachmanOs | Actually, better question is whether this IRC will answer devstack questions. | 04:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it may | 04:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | depends on the issue | 04:24 |
| tbachmanOs | I'm trying to set up a multi-node DS setup | 04:24 |
| tbachmanOs | Am using an ML2 driver for neutron | 04:25 |
| tbachmanOs | Fed19 | 04:25 |
| tbachmanOs | unfortunately, the tap interfaces don't seem to get created on br-int | 04:25 |
| tbachmanOs | not sure why | 04:25 |
| tbachmanOs | also -- ip netns doesn't show anything | 04:25 |
| tbachmanOs | seems suspicious | 04:25 |
| tbachmanOs | like libvirt isn't creating these for some reason | 04:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | multi-node devstack with ml2 seems suspicious lol | 04:26 |
| tbachmanOs | (or, at least I think it's libvirt that creates these?) | 04:26 |
| tbachmanOs | lol | 04:26 |
| tbachmanOs | yeah | 04:26 |
| tbachmanOs | am crazy :) | 04:26 |
| tbachmanOs | masochist, really | 04:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | did you pick a particular version or just running trunk? | 04:26 |
| tbachmanOs | It's a branch | 04:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | it is pretty masochistic considering a reboot blows it all away | 04:26 |
| tbachmanOs | created by Kyle Mestery | 04:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | any reason you'd use devstack over a standard install? | 04:27 |
| tbachmanOs | I've only got a laptop and virtualbox | 04:27 |
| tbachmanOs | And am pretty new to all this VM stuff (as if you couldn't tell ;-)) | 04:27 |
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| tbachmanOs | Also -- this has been done by others. | 04:28 |
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| tbachmanOs | (who unfortunately aren't available atm to answer questions ;-)) | 04:28 |
| tbachmanOs | so, it works with DS | 04:28 |
| tbachmanOs | (or so I'm led to believe) | 04:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | interesting | 04:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | how many nics per "box" ? | 04:29 |
| tbachmanOs | one point of note -- the guys who made this work are using dnsmasq | 04:29 |
| tbachmanOs | depends on the # of VMs, I think? | 04:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | dnsmasq should just hand out IPs and play resolver | 04:29 |
| tbachmanOs | I think (in this setup) that each VM gets a tap | 04:30 |
| tbachmanOs | yeah | 04:30 |
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| tbachmanOs | wasn't sure if there was any interaction with dnsmasq and libvirt | 04:30 |
| tbachmanOs | wasn't sure what the trigger was that causes libvirt to create these | 04:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | you said multi node... and since you're running on vms, i'm going to guess each node has its own vm | 04:30 |
| tbachmanOs | (actually not even certain that it's libvirt that does this -- just found a web page that syas it does) | 04:30 |
| tbachmanOs | Yeah -- guess I should describe the setup | 04:30 |
| tbachmanOs | (try not to laugh ;-)) | 04:31 |
| tbachmanOs | running virtualbox | 04:31 |
| tbachmanOs | (pauses for laughter) | 04:31 |
| tbachmanOs | Have two Fed 19 VMs | 04:31 |
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| tbachmanOs | one is the "controller" | 04:31 |
| tbachmanOs | the other is "compute" | 04:31 |
| tbachmanOs | My understanding is that after stacking each, I should see the tap interfaces. | 04:31 |
| tbachmanOs | I see br-int and br-tun | 04:31 |
| tbachmanOs | but no taps | 04:31 |
| tbachmanOs | both are running ovs 2.0 | 04:32 |
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| tbachmanOs | BTW -- if I'm going to suspect anything, it would be the OVS | 04:32 |
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| tbachmanOs | b/c I had to build that manually from a tarball | 04:32 |
| tbachmanOs | (I think b/c Fed19 comes with older version of OVS) | 04:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | bleh | 04:33 |
| tbachmanOs | (and no one seemed to have a 2.0 OVS at the ready for Fed19) | 04:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | i run my openstack labs as VMs... it works, just dont expect performance | 04:33 |
| tbachmanOs | just heard that Fed20 has OVS 2.0 | 04:33 |
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| tbachmanOs | but... am already far enough down this road. | 04:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | all of my stuff uses OVS 1.1 i think | 04:33 |
| tbachmanOs | k | 04:33 |
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| tbachmanOs | Yeah -- not up for performance here :) | 04:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | or something not 2, thats for sure | 04:33 |
| tbachmanOs | just conceptual | 04:33 |
| tbachmanOs | demo stuff. | 04:33 |
| tbachmanOs | I think I need 2.0 | 04:33 |
| tbachmanOs | not sure why | 04:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | what happens when you try launching an instance? | 04:33 |
| tbachmanOs | but, was told it was a requirement | 04:33 |
| tbachmanOs | instances launch fine | 04:34 |
| tbachmanOs | but, ip netns still shows nada | 04:34 |
| tbachmanOs | not tap interfaces | 04:34 |
| tbachmanOs | s/not/no | 04:34 |
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| tbachmanOs | One other thing (and not sure if it's relevant) -- can't seem to launch an instance on the controller | 04:35 |
| tbachmanOs | always instantly goes to ERROR | 04:35 |
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| tbachmanOs | but -- can launch on compute node just fine | 04:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | can you get a console to the instance? | 04:36 |
| tbachmanOs | ha | 04:36 |
| tbachmanOs | that's another funny thing | 04:36 |
| tbachmanOs | : | 04:36 |
| tbachmanOs | :< | 04:36 |
| tbachmanOs | I can get the console | 04:36 |
| tbachmanOs | shows up | 04:37 |
| tbachmanOs | tells me I can log in using cirros/cubswin:) | 04:37 |
| tbachmanOs | but, doesn't work | 04:37 |
| tbachmanOs | tried using nova to set the password | 04:37 |
| tbachmanOs | but that failed, with error | 04:37 |
| tbachmanOs | I've got more problems than solutions :) | 04:37 |
| tbachmanOs | Kinda gives you the feeling that something is fundamentally wrong, no ;-)? | 04:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah... | 04:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, the default cirros creds should work | 04:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | unless something is really borked | 04:39 |
| tbachmanOs | yeah | 04:39 |
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| tbachmanOs | and even if they didn't -- seems like I should be able to change them with nova | 04:39 |
| tbachmanOs | but -- am guessing that's unrelated to my current problem | 04:39 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i dont even know where to start | 04:45 |
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| Sam-I-Am | where did you find this weird build? | 04:45 |
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| tbachmanOs | lol | 04:47 |
| tbachmanOs | frankenbuild | 04:47 |
| tbachmanOs | started with vanilla Fed19 | 04:48 |
| tbachmanOs | went on from there | 04:48 |
| tbachmanOs | adding parts that were missing | 04:48 |
| tbachmanOs | that's where it always goes wrong | 04:48 |
| tbachmanOs | might abondon this | 04:48 |
| tbachmanOs | b/c someone has some allegedly working VM images | 04:48 |
| tbachmanOs | just thought I'd try to hone my DS debugging skillz | 04:48 |
| tbachmanOs | appears that I've got none :< | 04:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | ds is kind of frustrating to debug because everything goes to 'screen' | 04:49 |
| tbachmanOs | yeah | 04:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and is also in super verbose debug mode... most of which is gibberish to us mere humans | 04:49 |
| tbachmanOs | lol | 04:49 |
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| tbachmanOs | especially n00bs like myself. | 04:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm not much beyond a n00b | 04:50 |
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| tbachmanOs | u r willing to help :) | 04:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | i used devstack for about a week to poke around and then installed by hand | 04:50 |
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| notmyname | Sam-I-Am: I always see you helping people in here in my evening time. what timezone are you in? | 04:50 |
| tbachmanOs | def says something. | 04:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | notmyname: us/mountain | 04:50 |
| notmyname | ah, so later eveing for you (I'm in PAcific) | 04:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | just an hour | 04:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | tbachmanOs: i find the manual installs are easier to debug because i can spread services across several VMs | 04:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | tbachmanOs: i like the three-node layout for neutron | 04:51 |
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| jdubz | Sam-I-Am: have you had the error, "too many values to unpack" | 04:52 |
| tbachmanOs | controller, compute, and ... ? | 04:52 |
| jdubz | its related to networking | 04:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | notmyname: what are you working on? | 04:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | tbachmanOs: network | 04:52 |
| jdubz | but I can't figure it out | 04:52 |
| notmyname | Sam-I-Am: in OpenStack? I work on swift | 04:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | jdubz: when does this happen? | 04:52 |
| jdubz | on instance start | 04:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | notmyname: work as in... develop? | 04:52 |
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| notmyname | Sam-I-Am: yes, among other things ;-) | 04:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | jdubz: what log file shows the error? | 04:53 |
| jdubz | nova/compute.log | 04:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | notmyname: so, for a company that uses openstack i'm guessing? | 04:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | jdubz: i've never seen that error before. not exactly sure what its trying to unpack. | 04:54 |
| notmyname | Sam-I-Am: http://not.mn | 04:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | jdubz: anything useful before or after it... or in other logs? | 04:54 |
| jdubz | it popped up when I switched from nova-network to neutron | 04:55 |
| jdubz | on this install | 04:55 |
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| Sam-I-Am | notmyname: cool! | 04:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | i need to start a company where i can mess with openstack all day :) | 04:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | jdubz: so you just converted it over? i wonder if its not complete. | 04:56 |
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| notmyname | Sam-I-Am: we're hiring ;-) | 04:57 |
| notmyname | (as is everyone else I know of in the openstack community) | 04:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | swift is one of the few things i haven't touched yet :/ | 04:58 |
| jdubz | this setup was using the Rackspace Private Cloud | 04:58 |
| jdubz | setup tools | 04:58 |
| jdubz | I have not had much luck with RDO either | 04:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | my project was all about neutron, so mosty of my work stopped there | 04:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | jdubz: oh, right now i remember | 04:59 |
| jdubz | I had everything working well with RDO | 04:59 |
| jdubz | except Cinder backed by GlusterFS | 04:59 |
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| jdubz | allione installs work great | 04:59 |
| jdubz | but aren't much use beyond simple testing | 04:59 |
| notmyname | Sam-I-Am: if you're serious, send me an email at me@not.mn and I can let you know what I know about the openstack job market | 04:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | notmyname: on its way | 05:00 |
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| Sam-I-Am | jdubz: can you install the rackspace private cloud with neutron from the start? | 05:02 |
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| Sam-I-Am | jdubz: i'd have to see the configs to figure out what might be wrong... but i'm guessing its some leftovers from nova-net | 05:03 |
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| jdubz | Sam-I-Am: would you be interested in some moonlighting ? | 05:18 |
| tbachmanOs | lol: Sam-I-Am is in demand | 05:18 |
| tbachmanOs | I think you like it, Sam-I-Am :) | 05:18 |
| tbachmanOs | (who wouldn't) | 05:18 |
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| jdubz | at this point, I want to pay someone to show me what I am doing wrong | 05:19 |
| tbachmanOs | lol: I could use that service :) | 05:19 |
| tbachmanOs | Although I'd have to pay someone a lot of $$, I'm afraid | 05:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | heh | 05:21 |
| notmyname | tbachmanOs: so what' I'm hearing you say is that you're ready to pay Sam-I-Am a lot of money... | 05:21 |
| tbachmanOs | :) | 05:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i think i heard that too | 05:21 |
| tbachmanOs | Clearly, I'm a bit clueless when it comes to DS | 05:22 |
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| tbachmanOs | The sad part is -- no $$ to give :< | 05:22 |
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| tbachmanOs | You'd have to do it out of pity ;-) | 05:22 |
| h6w | Yaaaay! It works! | 05:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | tbachmanOs: is there anything you're doing that a regular install can't do? | 05:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | h6w: cool, what was it? | 05:22 |
| tbachmanOs | Sam-I-Am: not even sure I know enough to be able to answer that adequately | 05:22 |
| tbachmanOs | In any case -- don't sweat it. | 05:23 |
| tbachmanOs | Am going to go with the "blessed" VM images tomorrow. | 05:23 |
| tbachmanOs | Just thought I was getting close here. | 05:23 |
| tbachmanOs | If I could just understand what tells libvirt to create the tap interfaces. | 05:23 |
| jdubz | seriously | 05:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | tbachmanOs: well, if that doesnt work out... there's always the manual install. however, i am really curious what you're trying to accomplish | 05:24 |
| tbachmanOs | Ah | 05:24 |
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| tbachmanOs | So -- are you familiar with OpenDaylight? | 05:24 |
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| h6w | Sam-I-Am: What we were trying to get to work earlier. | 05:25 |
| h6w | Ok, so "Public" is the Horizon/Controller/Node's API IP range. If you don't connect on this, then the console won't work. | 05:25 |
| h6w | "VM (Fixed)" is the IP range for the Instances. | 05:25 |
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| h6w | I had to VLAN tag the "Public" range for it to work. That way they weren't conflicting. | 05:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | h6w: so that was it? | 05:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | tbachmanOs: yes, somewhat | 05:26 |
| tbachmanOs | Some folks there have been demo-ing setting up overlay networks, using the controller. | 05:26 |
| tbachmanOs | VXLAN and GRE | 05:26 |
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| Sam-I-Am | at least i know what its there for, but havent used it yet... it didnt appear fully baked last i looked | 05:26 |
| tbachmanOs | The demo itself is small | 05:26 |
| tbachmanOs | The demo uses the controller to talk OpenFlow to the OVS switch instances, and OVSDB to talk to it as well. | 05:27 |
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| tbachmanOs | THere's a Neutron ML2 driver | 05:27 |
| tbachmanOs | basically a pass-thru | 05:27 |
| h6w | Sam-I-Am: Yes. It kinda makes sense. All the different things Public, Private, VM, and Admin have to be on different interfaces. So either 4 interfaces, but some can overlap so long as their vlans are tagged correctly. | 05:27 |
| tbachmanOs | to create the neutron constructs | 05:27 |
| tbachmanOs | (networks, ports, etc.) | 05:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | tbachmanOs: oh thats pretty cool | 05:28 |
| tbachmanOs | Yeah :) | 05:28 |
| h6w | But to access the instances, the "VM" network can't be VLAN tagged. | 05:28 |
| Sam-I-Am | tbachmanOs: i need to figure out ML2 here soon for icehouse | 05:28 |
| tbachmanOs | Yeah. | 05:28 |
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| tbachmanOs | There's more to come on this as well. | 05:28 |
| tbachmanOs | Right now, they only have OpenFlow 1.0, which means it doesn't scale well | 05:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | h6w: so do your instances get IPs from the external network now? | 05:29 |
| tbachmanOs | (per-tennant tunnels) | 05:29 |
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| tbachmanOs | But -- 1.3 is in the works, and that would allow tunnels per node. | 05:29 |
| tbachmanOs | which scales much bettter. | 05:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | my project involves vxlan/vtep on brocade vdx stuff | 05:29 |
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| tbachmanOs | in any case -- want to re-create that demo, hopefully getting some DS skillz along the way | 05:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | but i also have things that speak openflow | 05:29 |
| h6w | Sam-I-Am: No. I think that approach is a lost cause (sadly). But at least they're in the same range as the physical devices, so I can port forward to them. | 05:29 |
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| tbachmanOs | Sam-I-Am: nice! | 05:30 |
| tbachmanOs | Are you using a controller? | 05:30 |
| tbachmanOs | or setting this up manually? | 05:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | i havent messed too much with OF yet | 05:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | which would use a controller... or somehow interface with neutron | 05:31 |
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| tbachmanOs | Ah. | 05:31 |
| tbachmanOs | Yeah -- lots of interesting stuff going on there. | 05:32 |
| tbachmanOs | David Meyere -- CTO of Brocade -- is the chair for the Technical Steering Committee of OpenDaylight. | 05:32 |
| tbachmanOs | They've got lots of projects in the works, I think. | 05:32 |
| tbachmanOs | (seeing proposals for OpenDaylight, at least) | 05:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | ideally i would like to see a multi-dc setup where tenant networks can build l3vpns (or something like it) using OF | 05:33 |
| tbachmanOs | L3 is coming | 05:33 |
| tbachmanOs | (to OpenDaylight) | 05:33 |
| tbachmanOs | Starting off with L2 | 05:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | cool | 05:33 |
| tbachmanOs | Well, I should qualify that. | 05:33 |
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| tbachmanOs | There are L3 solutions. | 05:33 |
| tbachmanOs | But -- I think they are geared towards particular vendor solutions | 05:33 |
| tbachmanOs | (NEC, Cisco, IBM) | 05:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | plenty of proprietary stuff out there | 05:34 |
| tbachmanOs | There also is the Juniper OpenContrail solution, which is L3. | 05:34 |
| tbachmanOs | Yeha | 05:34 |
| tbachmanOs | Yeah | 05:34 |
| tbachmanOs | Exactly. | 05:34 |
| tbachmanOs | Which is what i like about the OF/OVSDB solution. | 05:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | contrail seems like just another sdn variant | 05:34 |
| tbachmanOs | B/c you can use it for all. | 05:34 |
| tbachmanOs | (theoretically) | 05:34 |
| tbachmanOs | Not there yet. | 05:34 |
| tbachmanOs | But --- good team working to make it happen. | 05:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | so is this your main project? | 05:34 |
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| tbachmanOs | Sam-I-Am: u r in D.C.? | 05:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | colorado | 05:35 |
| tbachmanOs | There is an OpenStack meetup there. | 05:35 |
| tbachmanOs | ah | 05:35 |
| tbachmanOs | k | 05:35 |
| tbachmanOs | the whois said something about D.C. :0 | 05:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | not many openstack things out here that i've found | 05:35 |
| tbachmanOs | Not reliable. | 05:35 |
| tbachmanOs | There are some good folks there. | 05:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | guess not | 05:35 |
| tbachmanOs | :) | 05:35 |
| tbachmanOs | AH -- you said mountain time. Should have guessed. | 05:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | openstack has become a regular side thing for me... particularly fixing documentation. | 05:36 |
| tbachmanOs | I see. | 05:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | my regular job is kind of blah | 05:36 |
| tbachmanOs | mine too :) | 05:36 |
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| tbachmanOs | The SDN stuff is my focus | 05:36 |
| tbachmanOs | Currently bleeding into OS/DS :) | 05:36 |
| tbachmanOs | All good stuff. | 05:36 |
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| tbachmanOs | In any case -- getting a tad late for me. | 05:37 |
| tbachmanOs | Going to sign off. | 05:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | i was just thinking that | 05:37 |
| tbachmanOs | Sam-I-Am: thanks for the help! | 05:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | need to cool my brain off before bed | 05:37 |
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| tbachmanOs | l8r | 05:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | otherwise it just keeps going | 05:37 |
| tbachmanOs | lol | 05:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | come back soon! | 05:38 |
| tbachmanOs | heh | 05:38 |
| tbachmanOs | Will likely do so -- always questions :) | 05:38 |
| tbachmanOs | thx | 05:38 |
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| jdubz | Sam-I-Am: did you see my last question before I dc'd ? | 05:40 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hmm, i dont think so | 05:41 |
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| jdubz | When I add a gateway to a router | 05:42 |
| jdubz | it adds an IP on that external subnet to the router | 05:42 |
| jdubz | but it always shows as Down | 05:42 |
| jdubz | do I need to add that IP manually somewherE? | 05:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | not sure why those say down... can you ping that ip? | 05:42 |
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| jdubz | no | 05:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hmm | 05:44 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you gonna be around tomorrow? i need to hit the sack | 05:44 |
| jdubz | yea | 05:44 |
| jdubz | I'll be up early | 05:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | what time zone? | 05:45 |
| jdubz | PST | 05:45 |
| jdubz | http://pastebin.com/49u5jgXE | 05:45 |
| jdubz | here was that error | 05:45 |
| jdubz | about too many values | 05:45 |
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| jdubz | I'll re-install clean RDO | 05:45 |
| jdubz | no GLusterFS | 05:45 |
| jdubz | and see where I get tonight | 05:45 |
| jdubz | then talk to you in the morning | 05:45 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ok | 05:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | looks like that error is a sign of confusion somewhere | 05:46 |
| jdubz | yea | 05:46 |
| jdubz | when I was trying an install | 05:46 |
| jdubz | with just the puppet openstack modules | 05:47 |
| Sam-I-Am | something is looking for nova-net parts, something neutron parts | 05:47 |
| jdubz | I had that same eror | 05:47 |
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| kishore_ | Hi | 05:55 |
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| kishore_ | Team, I have a problem lauching the instance | 05:57 |
| kishore_ | Could you please help me to resolve the issue? | 05:57 |
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| kishore_ | root@openstack:/var/lib/nova/tmp# nova-manage service list 2014-01-03 11:20:08 DEBUG nova.utils [req-add3b3ff-a832-41ab-9f20-a8e56b6baa8d None None] backend <module 'nova.db.sqlalchemy.api' from '/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/nova/db/sqlalchemy/api.pyc'> from (pid=4920) __get_backend /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/nova/utils.py:663 Binary Host Zone Status State Upda | 05:59 |
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| teju | hi all...how to intercept the rabbitmq messages? | 06:16 |
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| teju | krypto: do u know how to intercept rabbitmq messages?? | 06:47 |
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| inc0 | is there any way to turn off CMS in keystone? It kills our CPU and we don't need that kind of security | 09:17 |
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| mathias_1 | on a nova-compute node on Ubuntu, why do I find nova.conf and nova-compute.conf - what's the difference? | 09:39 |
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| Drankis | mathias_1, i think there is no difference | 09:53 |
| Drankis | when you run ps auxf | grep nova-compute | 09:53 |
| Drankis | you can see that both config files is loaded | 09:53 |
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| Drankis | but why developers create two files, i don't get that either | 09:54 |
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| mili__ | Hi | 15:24 |
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| mili__ | can someone please help me with GRE with neutron | 15:24 |
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| mili__ | it dose not work, and i really dont understand it | 15:25 |
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| zzelle | what is exactly your trouble ? | 15:26 |
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| mili__ | Well, after creating the base network | 15:27 |
| mili__ | or just any network | 15:27 |
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| mili__ | the VM cannot get IP from DHCP | 15:27 |
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| mili__ | I also tried manual ip | 15:27 |
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| mili__ | but the VM cannot get out of compute node maybe | 15:27 |
| mili__ | or... I really dont know | 15:27 |
| mili__ | I wish there was a troubleshooting guide or ... | 15:28 |
| mili__ | I'm new to gre | 15:28 |
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| mili__ | and cant do much as i dont know my tools | 15:28 |
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| mili__ | to isolate the issue | 15:28 |
| zzelle | you are using gre + ovs ? | 15:28 |
| mili__ | yes | 15:28 |
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| zzelle | with namespaces ? | 15:29 |
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| mili__ | yes, on ubuntu | 15:29 |
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| mili__ | HAVANA | 15:29 |
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| zzelle | oki, so call sudo ovs-vsctl show | 15:29 |
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| zzelle | and verify there is no tag:4095 in the output | 15:30 |
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| zzelle | sudo ovs-vsctl show | grep 4095 | 15:30 |
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| zzelle | must return nothing | 15:30 |
| mili__ | it retrns nothing | 15:31 |
| mili__ | i just created 2 networks for test: | 15:32 |
| mili__ | 97008a7a-1dcf-4a6a-a237-4e2b6ad3065c | 15:32 |
| mili__ | Bridge br-tun | 15:32 |
| mili__ | Port br-tun | 15:32 |
| mili__ | Interface br-tun | 15:32 |
| mili__ | type: internal | 15:32 |
| mili__ | Port patch-int | 15:32 |
| mili__ | Interface patch-int | 15:32 |
| mili__ | type: patch | 15:32 |
| mili__ | options: {peer=patch-tun} | 15:32 |
| mili__ | Port "gre-2" | 15:32 |
| mili__ | Interface "gre-2" | 15:32 |
| mili__ | type: gre | 15:32 |
| mili__ | options: {in_key=flow, local_ip="172.16.10.11", out_key=flow, remote_ip="172.16.10.1"} | 15:32 |
| mili__ | Bridge br-int | 15:32 |
| mili__ | Port "tap49296ce1-26" | 15:32 |
| mili__ | Interface "tap49296ce1-26" | 15:32 |
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| mili__ | Port "tap17d7bd89-64" | 15:32 |
| mili__ | Interface "tap17d7bd89-64" | 15:32 |
| mili__ | Port patch-tun | 15:32 |
| mili__ | Interface patch-tun | 15:32 |
| mili__ | type: patch | 15:32 |
| mili__ | options: {peer=patch-int} | 15:32 |
| mili__ | Port br-int | 15:32 |
| mili__ | Interface br-int | 15:32 |
| mili__ | type: internal | 15:32 |
| mili__ | ovs_version: "1.10.2" | 15:32 |
| mili__ | that is on compute node | 15:32 |
| zzelle | stop | 15:33 |
| mili__ | ----------- And this is network node | 15:33 |
| mili__ | Bridge br-tun | 15:33 |
| mili__ | Port br-tun | 15:33 |
| mili__ | Interface br-tun | 15:33 |
| mili__ | type: internal | 15:33 |
| mili__ | Port patch-int | 15:33 |
| mili__ | Interface patch-int | 15:33 |
| mili__ | type: patch | 15:33 |
| mili__ | options: {peer=patch-tun} | 15:33 |
| mili__ | Port "gre-1" | 15:33 |
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| mili__ | Interface "gre-1" | 15:33 |
| mili__ | type: gre | 15:33 |
| mili__ | options: {in_key=flow, local_ip="172.16.10.1", out_key=flow, remote_ip="172.16.10.11"} | 15:33 |
| mili__ | Bridge br-int | 15:33 |
| mili__ | Port patch-tun | 15:33 |
| mili__ | Interface patch-tun | 15:33 |
| mili__ | type: patch | 15:33 |
| mili__ | options: {peer=patch-int} | 15:33 |
| mili__ | Port "tap0fb38879-29" | 15:33 |
| mili__ | tag: 2 | 15:33 |
| mili__ | Interface "tap0fb38879-29" | 15:33 |
| mili__ | type: internal | 15:33 |
| mili__ | Port "tap4bc973c8-e2" | 15:33 |
| mili__ | tag: 3 | 15:33 |
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| mili__ | Interface "tap4bc973c8-e2" | 15:33 |
| mili__ | type: internal | 15:33 |
| mili__ | Port br-int | 15:33 |
| mili__ | Interface br-int | 15:33 |
| mili__ | type: internal | 15:33 |
| mili__ | Port "qr-4bafee94-cb" | 15:33 |
| mili__ | tag: 2 | 15:34 |
| mili__ | Interface "qr-4bafee94-cb" | 15:34 |
| mili__ | type: internal | 15:34 |
| mili__ | Bridge br-ex | 15:34 |
| mili__ | Port br-ex | 15:34 |
| mili__ | Interface br-ex | 15:34 |
| mili__ | type: internal | 15:34 |
| mili__ | Port "qg-56dd5bf4-00" | 15:34 |
| dmsimard | mili__: Can you use http://paste.openstack.org/ instead ? | 15:34 |
| mili__ | Interface "qg-56dd5bf4-00" | 15:34 |
| mili__ | type: internal | 15:34 |
| mili__ | Port "eth2" | 15:34 |
| mili__ | Interface "eth2" | 15:34 |
| mili__ | ovs_version: "1.10.2" | 15:34 |
| mili__ | ok sorry | 15:34 |
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| zzelle | what are the service running on your compute node | 15:34 |
| zzelle | ? | 15:34 |
| mili__ | nova, neutron ovs | 15:35 |
| mili__ | http://paste.openstack.org/show/59919/ | 15:36 |
| zzelle | mili__, normally tapXXX must be tagged on network and compute nodes | 15:37 |
| zzelle | so your compute node is not correctly configured | 15:37 |
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| zzelle | it seems neutron ovs plugin service is not correctly configured | 15:38 |
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| zzelle | did you configure rabbit host for neutron ? | 15:39 |
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| mili__ | yes i did | 15:39 |
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| zzelle | can you look at neutron ovs service logs ? | 15:40 |
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| mili__ | what do you mean? | 15:42 |
| mili__ | oo | 15:42 |
| mili__ | sorry | 15:42 |
| mili__ | I read service tag | 15:42 |
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| zzelle | grep ERROR /var/log/neutron/... on your compute node | 15:43 |
| zzelle | or tail /var/log... | 15:43 |
| mili__ | no error | 15:43 |
| zzelle | huhum | 15:43 |
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| mili__ | i can see tabXXXX on my interfaces | 15:44 |
| mili__ | on the comput node | 15:44 |
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| zzelle | but they must have tag attribute : "tag: 2" or "tag: 3" | 15:45 |
| zzelle | it is not the case | 15:45 |
| zzelle | could you do neutron agent-list using an admin account ? | 15:45 |
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| mili__ | They are al healthey, I added it to the paste file | 15:48 |
| mili__ | http://paste.openstack.org/show/59921/ | 15:48 |
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| orion195_ | hi guys | 15:48 |
| orion195_ | quick question: after I added a floating-ip-subnet, associated 2 ip to 2 instances, and after removed the 2 instances and removed the floating-ip-subnet | 15:49 |
| orion195_ | I still see all the subnet in the floating_ips table of nova db | 15:49 |
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| zzelle | mili__, can you add to pastebin nova-compute neutron conf ? | 15:50 |
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| zzelle | orion195_, you are using nova-network or neutron ? | 15:51 |
| orion195_ | nova-network, atm | 15:51 |
| orion195_ | zzelle: I'll switch to neutron | 15:51 |
| orion195_ | but, atm... I have the dashboard and the mysql with all the ip range and 2 of them have also the proejct_id field set | 15:52 |
| orion195_ | I tried to update the table in the mysql setting the value to NULL | 15:52 |
| orion195_ | but that didn't change anything | 15:52 |
| zzelle | orion195_, that is the value in the deleted column ? | 15:53 |
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| orion195_ | NULL is the value set in the project_id column | 15:54 |
| mili__ | do you want nova.conf or neutron conf? | 15:54 |
| mili__ | or both? | 15:54 |
| orion195_ | the deleted column contains the same as id | 15:54 |
| zzelle | mili__, both and ovs_plugin.ini | 15:55 |
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| zzelle | so there are deleted | 15:58 |
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| zzelle | orion195_, so there are deleted | 15:59 |
| zzelle | orion195_, normally dashboard must not show them | 15:59 |
| zzelle | orion195_, if so it look like a bug | 15:59 |
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| kaushal | Hi | 17:01 |
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| kaushal | Are there monitoring tools to monitor openstack platform for example KVM Hypervisor and guest Hosts? | 17:02 |
| kaushal | For example i know of Nagios | 17:03 |
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| kaushal | Any pointers? | 17:03 |
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| ygk | Hi All | 17:23 |
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| ygk | any SME's online ? | 17:26 |
| ygk | i have some queries abt openstack | 17:27 |
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| larsks | ygk: Your best bet is just to ask the questions and see if someone is around who can answer them. | 17:33 |
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| ygk | i am installing openstack neuteron on centos | 17:34 |
| ygk | i am facing some problems | 17:34 |
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| ygk | after creating an external bridge , how to bring it up ? | 17:34 |
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| ygk | should it be set to onboot=n or yes ? | 17:35 |
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| larsks | You would typically set ONBOOT=y to bring the bridge up when the system boots. | 17:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | ygk: does this help? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1034476 | 17:35 |
| larsks | http://openstack.redhat.com/Neutron_with_existing_external_network has some information that might be useful. | 17:35 |
| kaushal | checking in again for my question? | 17:36 |
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| ygk | without rebooting how to bring it up ? | 17:36 |
| larsks | ygk: Generally, using "ifup <interfacename>" | 17:36 |
| ygk | thats not working | 17:36 |
| ygk | i tried it | 17:36 |
| larsks | What does "not working" mean? | 17:36 |
| ygk | ifup br-ex | 17:37 |
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| ygk | that 's not working | 17:37 |
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| Sam-I-Am | kaushal: http://wiki.zenoss.org/ZenPack:OpenStack_Cloud_Monitor | 17:37 |
| larsks | Let me rephrase. What do you mean by "not working"? Are you getting errors? Unexpected behavior? | 17:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | kaushal: i'm a big fan of zenoss | 17:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | mostly due to its configurability | 17:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | its kind of a beast, but you can customize it heavily | 17:37 |
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| larsks | ygk: You may also want to consider posting your question to http://ask.openstack.org/, but be prepared to write a good question with explicit information about errors and observed behavior. | 17:39 |
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| larsks | I'm not sure. I'm using Fedora 19 locally, so I would have to take a closer look at a CentOS system. I might try that this afternoon. | 17:42 |
| larsks | Whoops... | 17:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | ? | 17:44 |
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| larsks | Okay. Well, check back tomorrow afternoon :). I'm usually online around 9AM Eastern. | 17:46 |
| larsks | STOP THAT FINGERS. Seriously. | 17:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | heh | 17:49 |
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| larsks | One of these days I will have a focus-follows-eyes window manager and my problems will be over. :) | 17:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ha | 17:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | now i see whats going on | 17:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | surprised google hasnt released that feature yet | 17:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | then they can advertise based on what you're looking at | 17:54 |
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| cihhan | For the installation of compute node, the documentation (http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/install-guide/install/apt/content/nova-compute.html) says: "Use different IP addresses when you configure eth0. This guide uses 192.168.0.11 for the internal network. Do not configure eth1 with a static IP address. The networking component of OpenStack assigns and configures an IP address.". But previously it was saying that I need to set it static. C | 18:53 |
| cihhan | an anyone suggest a setting for the compute node installation? | 18:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | are you using nova-net or neutron? | 18:55 |
| Sam-I-Am | the docs can be kind of confusing as to network configs | 18:55 |
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| cihhan | Sam-I-Am, nove-network | 18:59 |
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| cihhan | I have installed everything on one node with Ubuntu 12.04 -- so far so good. The only thing I needed to do is the IPTables. But previously when I added another compute node, I had problems. | 19:00 |
| cihhan | I am really desperate in that | 19:00 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the second node should have two interfaces... one for management, and one for instance traffic | 19:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | the bridge would be associated with the instance traffic interface | 19:03 |
| cihhan | both my compute and controller nodes have 2 nic | 19:04 |
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| cihhan | but how should my compute node network be? | 19:05 |
| cihhan | eth0 with static for internal and eth1 with static for external? | 19:05 |
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| mili__ | Hi Guys, I moved to neutron GRE and I'm facing connectivity issues | 19:10 |
| mili__ | first thing that I can notice is that ip netns returns networks on the controller node but nothing on the compute node, is this fine? | 19:10 |
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| larsks | mili__: That is expected: namespaces are not used on the compute nodes. | 19:19 |
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| triven | Hi, Which host OS you will be most suitable to install Virtualbox for building Openstack Training Cluster | 19:25 |
| triven | ? | 19:25 |
| triven | Which host OS will be most suitable to install Virtualbox for building Openstack Training Cluster | 19:25 |
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| larsks | triven: If you're using VirtualBox it may not matter all that much. Use what you're most familiar with. | 19:28 |
| larsks | If you're not tied to VirtualBox, there are a lot of people using KVM on Linux to test out OpenStack. | 19:28 |
| cihhan | Sam-I-Am, | 19:28 |
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| cihhan | Sam-I-Am, I have a question to you. Previosuly you told me that I need to set floating IPs for the VMs on compute nodes to be able to ssh them. If you are available I have a couple quick questions about that if you are available? | 19:29 |
| triven | Dear larsks, thanks for reply. I am trying to create training cluster http://docs.openstack.org/training-guides/content/building-training-cluster.html#virtualbox-manual and my host is windows xp. | 19:30 |
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| pix9 | hmm | 19:30 |
| triven | I created host-only networks but they were not named vboxnet0 , vboxnet1 and so on. | 19:31 |
| triven | Then I found this article http://www.fidian.com/problems-only-tyler-has/renaming-windows-network-adapter to rename networks from windows regedit . | 19:32 |
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| pix9 | @cihhan would you like to share your questions with me? | 19:32 |
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| cihhan | pix9, thanks for asking. My problem is that I followed the instructions for Ubuntu and installed it on 2 nodes (compute + controller but controller has also the compute packages) | 19:33 |
| triven | then I installed ubuntu servers as described in the trainning guide. | 19:34 |
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| cihhan | pix9, when I launch a VM on controller I can ssh to it without any problems, but when I launch a VM on compute node, I cannot reach it from controller since it has private IP (but I can ssh from compute node) | 19:34 |
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| cihhan | pix9, what should I do? | 19:35 |
| triven | now I don't see any network on ubuntu server other then loopback. | 19:35 |
| pix9 | @cihhan have you created security policies? | 19:35 |
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| pix9 | perhaps which allows ssh to vm | 19:36 |
| cihhan | pix9, these yes: nova secgroup-add-rule default tcp 22 22 0.0.0.0/0 AND nova secgroup-add-rule default icmp -1 -1 0.0.0.0/0 | 19:36 |
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| pix9 | other thing have you properly bridged the networks? | 19:36 |
| pix9 | that is play where mostof them hit the walls | 19:37 |
| cihhan | pix9, one thing is, am i supposed to create the sec group on every node or only on the controller? | 19:37 |
| pix9 | place* not play | 19:37 |
| pix9 | err | 19:37 |
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| pix9 | sec grop is created centrally or tenant specific | 19:37 |
| triven | sudo service networking restart ..output ...stop:unknown instance: networking stop/waiting ///and ping www.google.com give ..ping:unknown host www.google.com | 19:38 |
| pix9 | if created independently you have to assigne it to tenant | 19:38 |
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| cihhan | pix9, so on the controller ony. That one is correct then? | 19:38 |
| cihhan | pix9, I may have some issues with the bridge as you have mentioned | 19:38 |
| pix9 | it is not host specific but yes you may say that as of now | 19:39 |
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| pix9 | yes | 19:39 |
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| pix9 | networking will give you a good toss | 19:39 |
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| pix9 | it gave me a toss even in my exam :P | 19:40 |
| pix9 | any ways | 19:40 |
| pix9 | how many network adapters are you using? | 19:40 |
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| cihhan | pix9, 2 NIC for each of them | 19:40 |
| pix9 | both are vm rite? | 19:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | cihhan: sorry i can't help much... been on the phone for several hours in meetings :/ | 19:40 |
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| cihhan | pix9, for host machines I have 2 NICs (each of them) | 19:41 |
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| pix9 | hmm | 19:41 |
| cihhan | Sam-I-Am, no problem, thank you very much :) | 19:42 |
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| pix9 | @cihhan so you have 2 physical computers with 2 nics on both of them | 19:43 |
| cihhan | pix9, exactly | 19:43 |
| pix9 | great | 19:43 |
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| pix9 | can you run "brctl show" on both the systems and give me output | 19:44 |
| cihhan | of course | 19:44 |
| pix9 | ok thank you | 19:44 |
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| pix9 | @triven I tried looking into your problem | 19:45 |
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| cihhan | pix9, here is the outputs: http://paste.openstack.org/show/ifSF21jVSq5oIdK7zdaZ/ | 19:45 |
| pix9 | but I was not able to understand your problem, it sounded more like you have issue with virtualbox network configurations | 19:45 |
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| cihhan | pix9, so what do you think? | 19:48 |
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| pix9 | @cihhan I roughly went through the guide it felt like they are doing everything on virtual environment | 19:48 |
| pix9 | i.e virtualbox | 19:48 |
| cihhan | pix9, im not using virtualbox | 19:49 |
| pix9 | and what you are doing is on 2 physical machines | 19:49 |
| cihhan | pix9, im using two physical machines, each of them has 2 NIC, running Ubuntu 12.04 | 19:49 |
| pix9 | and you followed guide | 19:49 |
| cihhan | pix9, yes | 19:49 |
| pix9 | ok 1 dumb question, please don't take it in wrong way, I just want to know your understanding about openstack | 19:50 |
| pix9 | if you don't mind :) | 19:50 |
| pix9 | may I? | 19:50 |
| cihhan | no problem pix9, in fact that would be nice so that I can check if I understood it completely | 19:51 |
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| pix9 | what do you understand about it. is it your first time to try it? | 19:51 |
| cihhan | yes pix9, im new to it. so what i understood is it manages the nodes, network, etc. amony multiple computers | 19:52 |
| pix9 | @cihhan do you think it is something like virtualization? | 19:53 |
| cihhan | pix9, and what i am trying to do is to run VMs on compute nodes and to be able to ssh them from controller or another node | 19:53 |
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| cihhan | pix9, as far as i know openstack is not development of the virtualization -- instead it uses virtualization such as kvm | 19:53 |
| cihhan | and im using kvm | 19:54 |
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| pix9 | great | 19:54 |
| pix9 | lol I am wondering how to phrase it !! | 19:54 |
| cihhan | pix9, so am i wrong? | 19:54 |
| pix9 | I mean how to explain things to you. | 19:54 |
| pix9 | not really | 19:54 |
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| cihhan | pix9, ok that s good at least :) | 19:55 |
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| pix9 | to make it clear to you, ven I am new to openstack, only possible diffrence can be I just had attended training on it | 19:55 |
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| pix9 | concept is big in itselfe, home or personal labs can't give you complete taste of whole thing | 19:56 |
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| cihhan | pix9, i understand. well my problem is that my prof wants to combine multiple computers and servers in the lab. | 19:57 |
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| cihhan | so in terms of computation power i believe that we have enough :) | 19:58 |
| pix9 | if you ask me to make a complete test of fledged implementation of open-stack will need atleasat 20-30 boxes :P | 19:58 |
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| pix9 | but that is limitation of what all things I want to do with it | 19:59 |
| cihhan | as long as i can make 2 of them run, i can move to 6-7 blades | 19:59 |
| pix9 | lol let's get back to your problem | 19:59 |
| pix9 | if you want to extract computing power out of your hardware you can use rhev insted | 19:59 |
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| pix9 | or Ovirt | 20:00 |
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| cihhan | pix9, the project requires openstack :) | 20:00 |
| pix9 | any ways openstack uses it's own network | 20:00 |
| pix9 | typically creates 2 | 20:00 |
| pix9 | 1 private one public | 20:00 |
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| pix9 | public is for linking outer public | 20:01 |
| pix9 | to vm's | 20:01 |
| pix9 | private is for internal communication of services | 20:01 |
| pix9 | now you need to bridge outer network to your nova's public network | 20:02 |
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| cihhan | ok im listening carefully | 20:02 |
| pix9 | and that is accessible on your one of bridges | 20:02 |
| pix9 | typically pr-ex (external | 20:03 |
| pix9 | and for private br-in | 20:03 |
| pix9 | ohh are those created on your system | 20:03 |
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| pix9 | but again that depends on which networking plugin you have used :D | 20:04 |
| jdubz | Sam-I-Am: you around ? | 20:04 |
| cihhan | I am using nova-network | 20:04 |
| pix9 | ahha | 20:04 |
| pix9 | that is service | 20:04 |
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| pix9 | service supports diffrent type of plugins | 20:04 |
| pix9 | like for cisco switches | 20:05 |
| pix9 | typically it should be ovs | 20:05 |
| pix9 | that's the free one | 20:05 |
| pix9 | you like brctl | 20:05 |
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| pix9 | you would also get some command like ovsctl | 20:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | jdubz: physically yes, but i've been on the phone for hours now in meetings... probably won't be done for another few hours. | 20:06 |
| jdubz | no problem | 20:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | jdubz: i'd much rather be doing openstack stuff :) | 20:06 |
| pix9 | that will needto be linked with yout external network | 20:06 |
| cihhan | pix9, ok | 20:06 |
| jdubz | I ended up being awake till about 5am, waiting on Dell to deliver parts for a failed server | 20:07 |
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| pix9 | so you are dealing with bridging of 3 diffrent networking topologies | 20:07 |
| pix9 | hope you understood something :) | 20:08 |
| cihhan | pix9, internal, external, and bridge; right? | 20:08 |
| pix9 | how many bridges are shown at your systems | 20:08 |
| pix9 | in ifconfig | 20:08 |
| pix9 | do you see anything like br-ex br-in | 20:08 |
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| cihhan | br100 and virbr0 (this one comes from kvm as far as i remember) | 20:09 |
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| pix9 | ok | 20:09 |
| pix9 | well in fedora only virbr0 comes from kvm | 20:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | jdubz: thats crappy | 20:10 |
| cihhan | yes virbr0 came with kvm | 20:10 |
| pix9 | another challenge wwe have here is we have expirence on diffrent environment :D | 20:10 |
| pix9 | lol this is getting intresting | 20:10 |
| cihhan | pix9, that s the main problem for my case | 20:10 |
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| pix9 | currently I am trying to configure 2 node setup in both virtual and physical environment | 20:11 |
| cihhan | I am using 2 blades from a blade server to check if I can configure so that later I can continue by adding | 20:11 |
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| pix9 | hmm it should work, networking and bridging parts needs to be taken care off | 20:12 |
| pix9 | mostlikely I am goingto implement network tommorrow | 20:13 |
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| pix9 | my controller is ready with glance keystone and nova | 20:13 |
| pzimmer | Is anyone here using puppet to manage openstack services? | 20:13 |
| pix9 | not me, | 20:13 |
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| cihhan | pix9, on my controller I have glance, keystone, and nova up and running -- and as I mentioned before if I carete an instance on the controller node, I can ssh to it | 20:14 |
| pix9 | hmm | 20:14 |
| pix9 | yes | 20:14 |
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| pix9 | I am getting your point | 20:15 |
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| pix9 | well accessible locally or from remote machine from outside | 20:15 |
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| pix9 | locally it should be accessible | 20:16 |
| cihhan | yes, they are accessible locally | 20:16 |
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| cihhan | but not remotely | 20:16 |
| pix9 | so you need to break your head in bridging area :D | 20:16 |
| pix9 | heheh | 20:16 |
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| pix9 | you need to bridge your nova network with your external network's interface | 20:17 |
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| cihhan | then isnt this what im supposed to do? nova network-create vmnet --fixed-range-v4=10.0.0.0/24 --bridge-interface=br100 --multi-host=T | 20:18 |
| cihhan | based on the documentation | 20:18 |
| pix9 | that is correct | 20:18 |
| cihhan | and on both physical machines i have br100 connected to eth1 | 20:19 |
| cihhan | which is my public network | 20:20 |
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| pix9 | but rough idea that I got about documentation is that it was meant for virtual environment (correct me if wrong, for I haven't read doc completely) | 20:20 |
| cihhan | the documentation is for physical machines as far as i know | 20:21 |
| cihhan | bcs in a section they are saying if you are using virtual env, please apply these steps | 20:21 |
| pix9 | ok good | 20:21 |
| pix9 | then i definately saw steps for virtual env | 20:21 |
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| pix9 | @cihhan can you please guide me to networking part of doc? | 20:22 |
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| pix9 | perhaps which you are following :) | 20:23 |
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| cihhan | pix9, you mean this?: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/install-guide/install/apt/content/nova-network.html | 20:24 |
| cihhan | or this? http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/install-guide/install/apt/content/basics-networking.html | 20:24 |
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| pix9 | hey | 20:25 |
| pix9 | you are just 1 step ahead from me | 20:25 |
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| pix9 | today itselfe I've finished implementing "Install Compute controller services" | 20:27 |
| pix9 | yet to add network on my setup | 20:27 |
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| mili__ | Hi Experts, I have an outstanding issue with my neutron. My VM dont get and IP address, I just ran tcpdump -nn -i br-int and I cannot see IPv4 brodcast or .. just IPv6 | 20:30 |
| mili__ | a tapXX is created on the compute node but nothing else | 20:31 |
| mili__ | I really cant figure this out | 20:31 |
| pix9 | @cihhan what is bringing in br10 | 20:31 |
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| mili__ | another strange thing is that in ip link show i see br-int state unknown | 20:31 |
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| pix9 | @cihhan I am sorry have to leave now | 20:33 |
| pix9 | @cihhan I will update you on my setup tommorrow probably around same time | 20:33 |
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| pix9 | good night everyone | 20:34 |
| pix9 | bye | 20:34 |
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| cihhan | pix9, sorry I had a phone call | 20:36 |
| cihhan | Thanks a lot | 20:36 |
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| cihhan | I will be waiting for you tomorrow then | 20:36 |
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| Ilja | hi | 20:53 |
| Ilja | I have a question about the best approach to multi ISP networking deployment of openstack. Is this a correct channel? | 20:53 |
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| Ilja | The issue is about routing traffic from a VM to different gateways based on target IP. | 20:54 |
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| ozialien_ | I am researching notifications in Openstack and wondered if there are event to email subsystems implemented? | 20:57 |
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| Ilja | @ozialien_, it should be possible with a default python handler - http://docs.python.org/2/library/logging.handlers.html#smtphandler | 21:01 |
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| ozialien_ | @Ilja: Just wondered if there was some database integrated notification subsystem. | 21:02 |
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| mili__ | Neutron guys out here | 21:04 |
| mili__ | help | 21:04 |
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| ekarlso | koolhead17: around ? :D | 22:17 |
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| jfarschman | Is there a proper way to share a 'private' glance image with a project. I've tried to find this on a couple of occasions and failed. | 22:21 |
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| Ghost7478 | Hi everyone | 22:24 |
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| Ghost7478 | I'm wanting to know are the controller and compute nodes different components | 22:26 |
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| Ghost7478 | I'm running xenserver on bare-metal with one vm running ubuntu 12.04 and another running rhel 6.5 , so I have one vm as controller and the other as computer. Please help | 22:27 |
| Ghost7478 | compute sorry for typo | 22:27 |
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| jfarschman | Ghost7478 yes, they are different components | 22:30 |
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| jfarschman | controllers manage thing and the actual VM/instances live on the compute nodes. | 22:31 |
| jfarschman | BTW: solved my problem. if you want to set an image to be visible to only one project, first make the image private, then | 22:31 |
| jfarschman | glance member-create --can-share imageid tenantid | 22:31 |
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| gork4life | jfarschman: ok so they would be on two different nodes | 22:34 |
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| gork4life | jfarschman: even if they are virtual nodes | 22:34 |
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| jfarschman | Sure… sorry for the delay. You can install them on two different nodes, but for learning a lot of people build an all-in-one node | 22:39 |
| jfarschman | I have a controller and a bunch of compute nodes. | 22:40 |
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| mspreitz | I have a pip question, I am have installed devstack and am running into trouble with nova's run_tests.sh | 22:41 |
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| gork4life | jfarschman: ok I guess what I'm asking I have xenserver install on baremetal and each vm I guess would be a node am I right | 22:41 |
| mspreitz | I elected to let run_tests make its own virtual environment, isolated. It can not find an adequately high version of netaddr | 22:41 |
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| mspreitz | but my host already has an adequately high version of netaddr. So why does pip in the venv not find it? | 22:42 |
| jfarschman | gork4life each instance (vm) you spin up would live on a compute node | 22:43 |
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| mspreitz | Oddly, pip says PyPI has an adequately high version, but installs a lower version when asked | 22:43 |
| mspreitz | I mean pip in the venv finds the high enough version with `pip search` but not with `pip install` | 22:43 |
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| gork4life | jfarschman: so every vm that I spin up will live on a compute node even though theres no openstack on these vm | 22:45 |
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| mspreitz | Is there a better place to ask my question? | 22:46 |
| gork4life | jfarschman: I'm confused because I use xencenter to create these vms how are these automatically compute nodes | 22:47 |
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| jfarschman | gork4life: Okay… so you use xencenter to make the openstack controller and the openstack compute node | 22:55 |
| jfarschman | or to spin up _instances_ on the openstack compute node? | 22:55 |
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| jfarschman | Once you have an set of openstack servers built you can use the openstack GUI or CLI to spin up instances | 22:56 |
| jfarschman | I'm probably more confused then you are at this point. | 22:56 |
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