Thursday, 2014-01-09

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Hahaha78Hi all01:07
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Hahaha78I'm wanting to know what's the difference between a controller and compute node01:08
Sam-I-Amthe compute node runs the tenant VMs01:08
Sam-I-Amthe controller node manages everything01:08
Hahaha78Sam-I-Am: Can the compute node also be a controller01:09
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Hahaha78Sam-I-Am: The reason I'm asking is because me and my team today had a debate about that and I'm not certain if I'm right. I thought that it was not possible01:10
sloweHahaha78: You can run in an "all-in-1" configuration, where a single node is both controller and compute node. Good for testing/experimentation.01:11
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Sam-I-Amyeah, all in one is good for a proof of concept01:12
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Hahaha78slowe: But in production they would be on different nodes right. I guess what I'm trying to understand is that compute and controller are two different parts of openstack and not the same thing01:13
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sloweHahaha78: Yes, in a typical production environment the controller role and the compute node role would be on separate physical systems.01:13
Hahaha78slowe: Ok thanks thats what I thought01:14
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sloweHahaha78: You'll see people use the term "controller" because it is running various parts of OpenStack, such as Keystone, Glance, Nova-API, etc. The terms "controller" and "compute node" don't necessarily map exactly to specific packages/projects.01:14
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Hahaha78slowe: Ok thanks01:16
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sloweHahaha78: NP.01:16
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BALLS_can anyone help to provide advise on setting up neutron?01:27
larsksMaybe?  Depends on what sort of advice you're looking for.01:27
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BALLS_larsks: thanks for your reply01:30
BALLS_I have setup three nodes based on the openstack guidelines01:30
BALLS_I have setup three nodes based on the openstack guidelines.01:30
BALLS_one controller , one network and one compute node running on CentOS01:30
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BALLS_I have setup GRE in OVS01:31
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BALLS_I also finished the steps on this
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BALLS_my question is how I can sure the configuration is correct, and what next?01:32
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larsksThe best way to validate the configuration is to use it -- boot an image and see if you have the network connectivity you expect.01:33
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BALLS_I am thinking of that, so what step I should follow?01:33
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BALLS_should I use back the step on nova networking like this line?01:34
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larsksYou would use the "nova boot" command to boot an instance.  You would probably need to add the "--nic net-id=<uuid of network>" option to specify the network to use (whatever the UUID of the "demo-net" was).01:35
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larsksYou would of course first need to upload an image into Glance...01:35
larsksAnd then your command would look something like:01:36
larsksnova boot --image myimage --flavor m1.small --key-name mykeyname --nic net-id=xxx myinstancename01:36
larsksYou could do the same thing using the dashboard and your browser if you're not feeling comfortable with the command line.01:36
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BALLS_a silly question01:37
BALLS_the net-id of demo-net01:37
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BALLS_[root@network01 neutron]#  neutron net-list +--------------------------------------+----------+--------------------------------------------------+ | id                                   | name     | subnets                                          | +--------------------------------------+----------+--------------------------------------------------+ | 027d2aa9-35f2-41bd-87b3-b618b6287449 | demo-net | f53237f4-7897-47c0-a5dc-f7456201:38
BALLS_can be find out by the above command rite?01:38
larsksThe "id" column is the id, yes.01:38
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BALLS_and it is 027d2aa9-35f2-41bd-87b3-b618b6287449, rite?01:38
larsks027d2aa9-35f2-41bd-87b3-b618b6287449 <-- this value01:38
BALLS_let me do a trial01:38
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BALLS_larsks: failed to create. I am going to check on the log01:45
BALLS_[root@compute03 ~]# nova boot --flavor 1 --key_name mykey1 --image f8c1a594-b928-4300-af29-e5b83b39eed1 --security_group default --nic net-id=027d2aa9-35f2-41bd-87b3-b618b6287449 Cirros_B ERROR: Invalid key_name provided. (HTTP 400) (Request-ID: req-ecf6e0cb-30f7-48b6-bc07-bf8c3bbfb802)01:45
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BALLS_larsks: are you here?01:52
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BALLS_anyone has idea on this error?01:53
BALLS_{u'message': u"local variable 'network_name' referenced before assignment", u'code': 500, u'details': u'  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/nova/compute/", line 258, in decorated_function01:53
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BALLS_I have problem to delete instance02:26
BALLS_I have issued " nova delete c66d2c11-38e3-4b13-8e79-45d1e7d268ce" without any error02:27
BALLS_but the instance still remain in the system, any idea?02:27
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BALLS_anyone can help?02:33
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Sam-I-Amusually that means something is stuck.  you may have a config issue where some parts are looking for nova-net, and other parts are looking for neutron02:38
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BALLS_Sam-I-Am: Can advice what I can check?02:47
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BALLS_anyone can help?02:52
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BALLS_I checked on the /var/log/nova/compute.log02:56
BALLS_it has below error02:56
BALLS_2014-01-09 10:54:59.834 1778 TRACE nova.openstack.common.rpc.amqp UnboundLocalError: local variable 'network_name' referenced before assignment02:56
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Sam-I-Amwhat commands did you use to create your networks?  there should be an external network owned by the admin tenant, and then a tenant network/router owned by the 'user' tenant02:58
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BALLS_I followed the installation guide03:00
BALLS_it seems that both internal and external network is owned by the same tenant03:01
Sam-I-Amdid you create a 'user' tenant?03:01
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BALLS_I create a tenant named tenant103:02
BALLS_[root@compute03 nova]# keystone tenant-list|grep tenant1 | b85eeba9902b4d03b4ef3cabb516c009 | tenant1 |   True  |03:02
BALLS_is it what you meant?03:02
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Sam-I-Amdid you create an 'rc' file for that tenant?03:03
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BALLS_how to check or how to do that?03:05
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Sam-I-Amwhen you started installing openstack, did you create a keystone or openrc file?03:08
BALLS_ok. you meant this rite?03:09
BALLS_export OS_USERNAME=admin export OS_PASSWORD=abc123 export OS_TENANT_NAME=admin export OS_AUTH_URL=http://controller02:35357/v2.003:09
Sam-I-Amyeah, that thing03:09
BALLS_yes. I also did that03:09
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Sam-I-Amyou can create one just like it, but for your user tenant03:09
BALLS_so do u mean the tenant name should be using "tenant1" instead of "admin"03:10
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Sam-I-Amwhen you created the tenant, did you create a username under it?03:13
BALLS_I follow the steps of this link.03:13
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Sam-I-Amthat part kind of assumes you have your tenants configured right03:15
Sam-I-Amwhat's the output of 'keystone user-list' ?03:16
Sam-I-Amand try using pastebin or something rather than tossing output in here03:16
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BALLS_sorry. pastebin?03:17
chanceor your favorite website to paste output to03:18
chancejust dont paste your output directly into IRC03:18
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BALLS_u mean this, rite?03:20
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BALLS_can u see the output?03:22
Sam-I-Amso it seems like you dont have a user under your tenant03:22
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BALLS_what should I do?03:22
Sam-I-Amdo this...03:23
Sam-I-Amkeystone user-create --name=tenant1 --pass=pass --tenant-id tenant1 --email=tenant@domain.com03:23
Sam-I-Amthen keystone role-create --role member03:24
Sam-I-Amthen keystone user-role-add --tenant-id tenant1  --user-id tenant1 --role-id member03:25
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BALLS_can u do a check?03:29
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BALLS_Sam-I-AM: I do not know how to check back the setting after user-role-add03:30
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Sam-I-Amyeah thats fine03:31
Sam-I-Amso now create a keystonerc-tenant1 file (or whatever you want to call it) with those variable we talked about earlier... only the os user is tenant1, os password is whatever you made it, and os tenant is tenant103:31
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Sam-I-Amusing rc files is the easiest way to change users on the command line... 'source keyrc-admin' to become admin, 'source keyrc-tenant1' to become tenant103:33
Sam-I-Amwe need to get rid of the networks you made03:34
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BALLS_how to do that? can help?03:35
Sam-I-Amas the admin tenant, whats 'neutron net-list' show?03:35
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Sam-I-Amwhats the output of neutron net-show ext-net and neutron net-show demo-net?03:38
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Sam-I-Amwhats neutron subnet-list show?03:40
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Sam-I-Amcan you do a 'neutron subnet-show' for each of those IDs?03:44
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Sam-I-Amso is your public/external network ?03:48
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Sam-I-Amthe one associated with br-ex on the network node?03:48
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BALLS_the subnet to access internet is actually
BALLS_I am not sure whether I should use this or assigned another one like
Sam-I-Amok, so we need to change some stuff03:52
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Sam-I-Amif br-ex is on the network03:53
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BALLS_[root@network01 log]# ovs-vsctl list-ifaces br-ex eth1 tapa092ff15-5903:54
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BALLS_this should be on network node, rite?03:55
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Sam-I-Amyeah, br-ex needs to use your external interface as the underlying interface03:56
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Sam-I-Amso whatever network that sits on03:56
BALLS_the ex-br should be on
Sam-I-Amso do a neutron subnet-delete <id> for both of your subnet03:57
Sam-I-Amif that doesn't work there's some other things we need to do first03:58
BALLS_yes. I think need to remove some dependency03:59
Sam-I-Amprobably the gateway03:59
Sam-I-Amand/or router03:59
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BALLS_give me 5 mins. I remove everything on that 1st04:01
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BALLS_I cannot remove as one IP has been allocated to the demo-net04:04
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BALLS_and the instance cannot be removed04:04
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Sam-I-Amcan't remove the subnet?04:05
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BALLS_{"network_id": "b6d746f0-c029-4ae7-89ac-606b84f5162e", "enable_snat": true}04:07
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troyahi al04:07
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troyai try to import cirros on my glance, but i got error like "External sourcing not supported for store cirros-0.3.0-x86_64-disk.img"04:08
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Sam-I-Amtroya: what command did you use?04:08
BALLS_becasue the IP has been assigned to the instance04:08
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troyaSam-I-Am: glance image-create --name=cirros --disk-format=qcow2 --container-format=bare --is-public=false --location=cirros-0.3.0-x86_64-disk.img04:08
Sam-I-AmBALLS_: hmm... gotta figure out how to clear that bad instance04:08
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BALLS_yes. I tried many times, but not able to do04:09
troyaSam-I-Am: detail like here >
Sam-I-Amtroya: 'location' only accepts a url.  if you have a file, use --file04:09
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Sam-I-AmBALLS_: have you tried restarting things?04:10
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BALLS_I have reboot the compute node04:11
BALLS_maybe I should try all three nodes?04:11
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BALLS_let me try04:11
troyaSam-I-Am: get different error with --file parameter
troyabut wait, i try to user location and set url for location04:12
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Sam-I-Amso that 500 error is a glance error... these things communicate with each other using http04:13
troyai get it.04:14
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troyai change to location and http04:14
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Sam-I-Amso... what's glance image-list show?04:14
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troyaThanks sam, i think it's working with location=http://..04:16
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troyathanks Sam, i will go to configure nova now04:18
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BALLS_Sam-I-Am: I am still trying, but I will be await soon, can we continue tomorrow?04:27
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Sam-I-Amyeah, i have to go too04:30
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Sam-I-Ami'll be around on and off tomorrow04:30
BALLS_one question, can we create a new IP assignment if the subnet cannot be created?04:30
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Sam-I-Amwe probably can... i would rather clean up any cruft though04:31
Sam-I-Amthere might be a config issue somewhere thats causing the hangup04:31
BALLS_see u tmr04:31
BALLS_thanks the help04:32
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BALLS_Sam-I-Am: this is the error from /var/log/nova/compute.log04:38
BALLS_anyway gtg04:38
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tejuhow to see rabbitmq messages in a browser using rabbitmq management plug in?05:14
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tejuSam-I-Am: i am following the same docs...but,where is rabbitmq-plugins command?05:16
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Sam-I-Amwhat distro?05:18
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tejuubuntu 12.0405:18
tejurabbitmq version 2.7.205:18
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Sam-I-Amits probably not in your path05:20
tejurabbit version 2.7.105:21
tejudo I have to install rabbitmq-admin??05:21
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koolhead17notmyname: swift global clusters about to start (in about 10-15 minutes). livestream at
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tejuSam-I-Am : rabbitmq-plugins enable rabbitmq_management05:24
tejucommand not found05:24
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Sam-I-Amhow did you execute that command?05:25
iscsiteju: dpkg -S rabbitmq-plugins05:26
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tejuError: "The following plugins could not be found:\n  rabbitmq_management\n\n"05:27
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tejui copied rabbitmq-plugins and rabbitmq-env to /usr/sbin05:28
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koolhead17see if this helps ^^05:29
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tejukoolhead17: worked05:34
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koolhead17teju: now u owe me some beer :)05:34
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tejukoolhead17: wer r u 4m?05:35
koolhead17teju: where ever you are i will come and collect it. don`t wrry :)05:35
tejukoolhead17: come 2 India05:36
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kallisti5anyone seen this before?  2014-01-09 00:57:56.461 17167 TRACE neutron.agent.dhcp_agent Stderr: 'Cannot find device "tape7578960-10"\n'05:58
kallisti5looks like neutron is expecting a "tape7578960-10" ethernet card device05:58
kallisti5(did the redhat openstack install on centos)05:59
Sam-I-Amkallisti5: rdo?05:59
kallisti5Sam-I-Am: yeah06:00
Sam-I-Amall-in-one box with a single nic?06:00
kallisti5yeah, but i enabled neutron and a few other bits06:00
Sam-I-Ami think it does neutron by default now06:00
Sam-I-Amdid you do anything with br-ex?06:01
kallisti5stock Centos 6.506:01
kallisti5ran rdo06:01
kallisti5created a private network in horizon06:01
kallisti5(with dhcp server + private network)06:01
kallisti5added a router, but no external ip there to set06:01
Sam-I-Amso first thing to do is make sure you yum upgrade and reboot ... there may be a new kernel required to make this work06:01
Sam-I-Amthen check this link out06:01
kallisti5ok. doing so now06:02
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kallisti5before i reboot..06:02
kallisti52014-01-09 01:02:26.931 17167 TRACE neutron.agent.dhcp_agent Command: ['sudo', 'neutron-rootwrap', '/etc/neutron/rootwrap.conf', 'ip', 'link', 'set', 'tape7578960-10', 'address', 'fa:16:3e:3d:de:f2']06:02
kallisti5thats the command triggering the fault06:02
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kallisti5Sam-I-Am: I did the install over ssh in a screen06:03
kallisti5and never lost the network connection06:03
kallisti5that raised a few red flags as adding the interface to the bridge should of dropped me06:04
Sam-I-Amit doesnt do it by default... probably because it breaks things06:04
Sam-I-Amand in some cases the stock kernel doesnt support network namespaces06:04
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Sam-I-Ami think the centos 6.5 kernel does now06:04
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Sam-I-Amrdo started defaulting to neutron at some point and didnt quite update the docs to go with it :/06:05
kallisti5shouldn't of done a ovs-vsctl add-port br-ex eth006:06
kallisti5before adjusting the network scripts :-\06:06
kallisti5machine is remote06:06
kallisti5with no ilo in a datacenter in another state06:06
Sam-I-Amgot an ip console?06:06
kallisti5lol.. sigh06:06
kallisti5and ovs will remember that even if I reboot06:07
Sam-I-Ameh... maybe06:07
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Sam-I-Amtheres something weird on redhat about how it starts ovs06:07
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Sam-I-Ami think it forgets unless you have that stuff in network-scripts06:08
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kallisti5Sam-I-Am: thanks, you gave me a good direction to take06:09
kallisti5rdo definitely seems a lot more stable vs 6 ~ 8 months ago06:09
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Sam-I-Amits pretty good for a proof-of-concept that Just Works06:10
Sam-I-Amminus this minor config stuff :06:10
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Sam-I-Amthey have a page explaining it somewhere on there06:10
kallisti5Sam-I-Am: I tried to install openstack my hand back in the day06:10
kallisti5lets just say keystone killed me06:10
Sam-I-Ambut i think the main docs should mention it06:10
Sam-I-Amthe general install docs are much better now06:10
Sam-I-Amyou can pretty much do an install with neutron and it Just Works06:11
Sam-I-Amthere's some assumptions about tenant creation and where to create networks, but the config works06:11
kallisti5yeah.. seems networking is where most of my pain points are lately06:11
kallisti5not that i'm bad at networking, I just can't see inside of openstack enough to configure things like it wants :-)06:12
kallisti5(well, without looking at code)06:12
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Sam-I-Amits not bad now.  using 3 nodes with neutron splits stuff up enough that troubleshooting isnt bad.06:12
kallisti5hm... doesn't look good.  I can PXE boot the machine remotely, i'll just boot to a rescue image and chroot into it06:13
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Sam-I-Amat least you can do something06:14
Sam-I-Ami usually build my concept stuff as VMs06:14
Sam-I-Amso i can always get a console06:14
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troyahi, is NTP can pointed to eth0 which i've set as interface for provide connectivity for OpenStack management ?06:16
Sam-I-Amntp just needs to point to an ntp server that each node can get to06:16
troyai'm just install openstack on single server06:17
kallisti5troya: don't worry about it then06:17
troyaoh.. oke :)06:17
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troyabut, i should configure it ? or i can leave it ?06:19
kallisti5leave it06:20
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kallisti5ntp has nothing to do with openstack.. it just is used to make sure the time stays the same across all nodes06:21
troyaoke ;)06:21
troyathanks kalisti506:21
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Sam-I-Amtime to hit the bed here06:26
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troyai read blog  that when i configure neutron, i should change core_plugin = neutron.plugins.ml2.plugin.Ml2Plugin instead of default. default is neutron.plugins.openvswitch.ovs_neutron_plugin.OVSNeutronPluginV206:39
troyawhat the different of both ?06:39
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troyaok,iscsi.. thanks for link06:50
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iscsiGive a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. Laozi06:55
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troyaiscsi, how about vSwitch bridges ?07:07
troyai just have 2 network interface07:07
troyaeth0 for connectivity between system and openstack management07:08
troyathan eth1 for communicate with external, like internet, etc07:08
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troyai try to check neutron agent-list, but i just get
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troyaanyone have experience with neutron ?07:21
troyai have problem with it07:21
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sgrantroya: that looks like you have a working dhcp agent07:42
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sgranwhat are you expecting?07:42
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troyasgran: i just get on running when execute neutron agent-list07:45
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troyai think should be many agent running07:46
troyalike Open vSwitch agent,L3 agent07:46
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troyasgran. any clue for that case ?07:47
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sgranare they running?  What do their logs say?07:49
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troyaL3 agent07:50
troyaand dhcp agent07:50
troyaboth of them running07:50
troyawhat agent which should running beside them ?07:50
sgranif you run the other agents with debug enabled, you should see errors connectin to MQ07:51
troyasgran. actually agent which should running is Open vSwitch agent,dhcp agent and l3 agent07:51
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troyasgran, look at this >
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troyathere is log of openvswitch-agent.log which i don't know what is tht07:55
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sgranit says you don't have a br-int07:57
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troyahow i can get it ?07:58
troyaactually i just have 2 ethernet07:58
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sgranbut your l3-agent is now running08:00
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troyathis is my ifconfig and network/itnerface08:01
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sgranare you following those steps?  You've missed the ovs-vsctl commands, it seems08:02
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troyaOpen vSwitch agent not running08:03
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troyasgran: this command >>
troyaactually how many bridge which i should create ?08:08
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sgranyou should follow the guide I linked to.  THat looks correct to me08:09
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troyasgran: okay, let me try this :D08:10
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troyasgran.could you pastebin your > neutron agent-list08:19
troyahow many agent which have run ?08:19
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sgranI'm on the train on the way to work, so no08:20
sgranlook at your logs.  They'll tell you what the problem is08:20
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Tony_Berghtrying to follow the installation guide for Ubuntu (still). There are a number of things that confuses me regarding nova-network. For example how to configure the interfaces. Right now I have both the internal and the external interfaces statically configured on the controller. How should I configure the external interface on compute nodes?08:24
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Tony_BerghThe installation guide says "Do not configure eth1 with a static IP address. The networking component of OpenStack assigns and configures an IP address." but the cloude admin guide says "OpenStack does not configure any physical network interfaces.".08:27
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sgranTony_Bergh: that means that openstack won't connect eth0 to your local network08:33
sgranit will attach a bridge to eth108:33
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Tony_Berghsgran: aha. So I should leave eth1 unconfigured?08:40
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sgranI would have thought so08:48
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sgranbut I don't know nova-netowkr that well, I'm using neutron08:48
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Tony_Berghok, thx. I skipped neutron for now since I can't even get nova-network working properly yet. ;)08:49
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Tony_Berghthe next problem I'm facing is that openstack doesn't seem to create the bridge for me. Maybe that has to to with my eth1 config..08:51
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anand_mrunge, when I try to launch an instance, it stuck in scheduling state08:55
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sgranTony_Bergh: have a look at the nova logs08:57
sgranone of them will complain loudly about the problem if you have debug and verbose enabled08:57
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mrungeanand_, restart your qpidd08:59
mrungeanand_, as noted in the bug report08:59
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Tony_Berghsgran: can't find anything in the logs. How do I enable debug and verbose?09:10
Tony_Berghsgran: you mean the nova logs on the compute node, right?09:11
sgranI mean wherever you are having the problem :)09:11
sgranadd verbose=True and debug=True to nova.conf09:11
sgranthen restart all the nova-* processes09:11
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Tony_Berghsgran: thanks :) will try09:12
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anand_mrunge, I got it up after following exactly on the link and after restarting the servers. Thank you so much09:15
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mrungeanand_, you're welcome. glad you could fix it09:15
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troyahi all, anyone have experience wiht this message >> "Connection to neutron failed: Maximum attempts reached"09:17
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troyathat message appear when i try to execute "neutron agent-list"09:17
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troyahi mrunge09:20
mrungetroya, did you try to switch it off and on again?09:21
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troyadidnt' but i have kill all neutron process09:22
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troyathen start them again09:22
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MaximBcan I install openstack on a VM? how would it work from there?09:25
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troyamrunge: actually how many agent which should running ? i have dhcp-agent and L3agent09:25
mrungetroya, there are some init scripts, quite handy09:26
mrungesomething live service neutron-server restart09:26
troyamrunge, yah..i use them too.09:27
mrungeMaximB, yes, that is possible, if your VM supports nested virtualization09:27
troyajust confirm, actually how many agent should be running09:27
mrungetroya, I don't know09:27
troyaoh..09:27 worry09:27
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MaximBmrunge: I'm using esxi 5 ,also does it mean I'll need to install another esx5 on a vm?09:31
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mrungeMaximB, I've newer used such a thing, I can't answer that09:31
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anand_can't able to ping host from my cirros instance. I can ping cirros from host if I stop Iptables. what can be the reason09:33
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MaximBso how do you install openstack on esxi? won't you need to create a vm for ubuntu to install openstack on?09:36
MaximBor it can be any machine not in the vmware?09:36
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Tony_Berghthe bridge (br100) on my compute node is not created when I restart the nova-* services and I can't find anything wrong in the logs. :( Can I manually create the bridge and attach it to eth1? Should the bridge be configured via dhcp then?09:39
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Tony_Berghafter reading further it seems like the bridge should not be created until when the first VM is started on the compute node.10:23
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jamiehis it advised to set up glance on the controller server or a separate one?11:45
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MaximBthe wiki says ubuntu 12.04, would it work for a new version like 13.04 or 13.10?11:50
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koolhead17jamieh: there is no suggestion as such it all depends on ur need :)11:56
koolhead17MaximB: but my advice will be to use 12.04 with cloud repo11:57
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MaximBkoolhead17: why didn't they update the guide  to more current version11:59
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koolhead17MaximB: because Ubuntu suggests production deployment with LTS instead 6 months rolling release distros12:00
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koolhead17ekarlso: how is your schedule like later in day?12:01
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ekarlsokoolhead17: dunno yet12:06
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koolhead17ekarlso: lets do it today :)12:09
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MaximBkoolhead17: about this guide: ,do I need to create 2 machines?12:12
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MaximBkoolhead17: how many machines I need for openstack? do I really need 2 or can I install everything on one and see how it works?12:51
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peetaurMaximB: probably 1 but not sure on what changes you need. Why not just make 2 vms to test it?13:01
peetaurprobably you shouldn't install conductor (since it says not ton install it on a compute node), but then you need to configure it differently than the guide13:02
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MaximBpeetaur: what specs I need for each vm?13:05
peetaurwith 1-2 vms running on the compute, my controller vm uses up to about 1GB, and my compute uses 700-1.5GB I think13:07
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peetaurmy vms seem to work fine without any vt-x cpu flags13:07
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peetauraka. nested virtualization ... not using that13:08
MaximBpeetaur: wow, but I heard 8gb is the recommanded13:08
peetaurwell depends on what you are doing13:08
MaximBtesting ;)13:08
peetaurI'm just installing things and exploring the commands13:08
MaximBwhat about cores and harddisk?13:08
peetaurI originally gave my controller 512 MB, and it started swapping and going horribly slow, so I upped it to 1GB13:08
peetaurcores depends on how much speed you need... I didn't pay attention to what I gave it13:09
peetaurand for disk, depends on how big your test vms are13:09
MaximBwhich one would use more hd ?13:09
peetaurand for the guide, I recommend 3 hard disks, root, cinder, and swift all get one in the guide13:09
peetauron controller that is13:09
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MaximBmmm....I'm not sure I can give x hard disk in vmware... I can assign space, but not hard disks13:10
peetaurI gave my test controller 4 GB root, 4GB cinder, and 8GB swift  (not sure why more for swift)13:10
MaximBmaybe you mean partitions?13:10
peetaurin vmware player or what?13:10
peetaurI think you can add more disks ... just click add, and when done, click add again13:10
peetauroh in ESX for sure you can have more disks13:11
MaximBbut why not just give partitions?13:11
peetauryou can give partitions too13:11
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MaximByeah but what is the benefits of hd vs partitions on vm?13:11
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peetauralmost nothing13:11
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peetaurjust logical separation... like if you wanted to move your disk to another vm, you wouldn't want to move the root with it also, right?13:12
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MaximBpeetaur: and how many nics you gave each vm? 2? why not just 1?13:13
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peetaurI gave them 2 but did my network differently... one is my LAN, and one is for the vms so the DHCP doesn't steal IPs from my LAN and have conflicts13:14
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peetaurso I have public to vm traffic and internal cluster traffic together, whereas the howto wants those separate I think13:14
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MaximBpeetaur: how much hd space you gave to compute?13:19
MaximBand what partitons/hard disks13:19
peetauralready said 4, 4, 813:19
peetaurer no I didnt13:19
peetaurbut I think it was 4GB13:19
MaximBpeetaur: I thought those were for controller13:19
MaximB4 4 813:20
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peetaurand my node is 81% full13:20
peetaurso 4GB seemed about right13:20
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MaximBpeetaur: one partition? /root ?\13:21
peetaurI just let the regular distro installer do whatever it wanted13:21
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peetaurso in my case with Ubuntu 12.04, it seems to be a monolithic one partition for both root and boot, and another for swap13:22
MaximBhow much for swap?13:22
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peetaur512 MB, but that's what the distro installer chose13:23
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MaximBand you gave it 2gb ram?13:23
peetaurand fyi my controller today is using lots of swap... maybe I should have made RAM 1.5 GB13:23
peetaurI gave it 1 GB, but I think I'll raise it to 1.513:23
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MaximByou tight on space? ;)13:24
peetaurmy desktop only has 16 GB ...and using almost all already13:24
MaximBin my case I don't care giving it 8gb ram and 100gb  space ... on esx ;)13:24
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MaximBdo you really need 2 nics for each? can't they live/connect each other trough 1?13:25
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peetauryes and in my case they do, except to connect to my desktop13:26
peetauror the internet13:26
peetaurI did my networking differently... like one virtual LAN on a vm bridge without a slave ethX, just to separate them so they can't clash with my LAN IPs13:26
peetaurin the guide they create something like a private cluster only network, and a network for the vms and I guess the management13:27
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peetaurin my setup, I didn't want vms on my normal network, because then there'd be a split-brain DHCP problem, with duplicate IPs, so I simply moved vms to the internal cluster-only network13:28
RabidCicadaWould anyone be nice enough to point me to a monolithic disk image that will boot in Openstack/Xenserver/Xen setup?  Having problems getting my own hand crafted one (following the openstack image_guide.pdf) to boot and would like to perform a differential analysis.  I'm also working on just constructing the image in Xenserver then pulling it out and pushing it back in through the horizon13:28
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MaximBI got about 100 real ips I can assign13:28
peetaurRabidCicada: I know notghing of this, but did you try the Cirros one from the guide?13:29
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peetaurMaximB: I have 100s also, but having 2 uncoordinated authorities on which are in use or assigned where is a problem, so I separated it (alternatively you can maybe configure it to have a specific range... but I didn't see that in the guide, and prboably nova-networking doesn't have it and you need the more complicated networking)13:30
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RabidCicadapeetaur, Cirros works...but it's kind of a cop-out when it comes to an example you can learn from.  It doesn't have a "typical" linux layout and I don't think I can learn anything about it.  It does boot in my setup...but I couldn't glean any useful information from the image as it is setup much different than say ubuntu13:32
RabidCicadaunless I'm missing something :)13:32
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peetaurI didn't know which package manager to use in cirros to install basic things ... so if that's what you mean, I see the problem ;)13:33
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peetaurat some point I'll play with images ;) and then I can hope to be helpful13:33
peetaur(but not planning on trying it on xen)13:33
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RabidCicadaMy problem is specifically in how I'm constructing a hand-rolled VM image.  It's having problems booting.  And with one previous image I made that did had problems with the console/vnc13:34
RabidCicadaahh...yeah....I wanted to use xen13:34
RabidCicadaKVM works without a problem :(13:34
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peetaurwhat advantage is there to using xen inside openstack?13:34
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peetaurxen vs kvm in general has advantages on both sides apparently ... but in openstack, all the favorite xen tools or whatever seem to be unused, right?13:35
RabidCicadaSo...I haven't 100% verified this...but my idea is to run game servers in the vm's...and it is my belief that xen's paravirtualized network drivers would be more performant than kvm13:35
peetaurand since vfio, I think xen has lost its pci passthrough advantage completely13:35
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peetaur(vfio-pci is kernel 3.9 or so, and vfio-pci-vga 3.10 or so)13:36
RabidCicadaAlso....I see anecdotal evidence that Xen is better for scaling to a larger cloud due to rackspace and amazon et all using xen on the backend13:36
peetaurare they linux servers?13:36
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RabidCicadaam I incorrect about what I see?13:37
peetaurI had a uniquely bad experience with xen paravirtual network ...13:37
RabidCicadaI also had used xen itself (no cloud orchestrator) previously13:37
RabidCicadaso I was partial to it13:37
RabidCicadaback in the days of xm and having to reboot the host after install to get the bridge working >.<13:37
viraptorhi all, is there some way to set the config value to None, even if the default has a value? None itself seems to be treated as a string "None"13:37
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larsksviraptor: What are you trying to do?13:37
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peetaurwell I think kvm virtio seems flawless on Linux ... and I only found one case where ESXi network was faster, which was a VM router and only seemed slower with NFS13:37
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RabidCicadapeetaur, Well that is good...because I'm geting tired of trying to get xenserver working right now...and was going to flip to an Openstack/KVM cloud on my main server then work on the xen one on my secondary13:38
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peetaurbut with xen I didn't see it going very fast in my testing, but I had unique problems where I was testing it. ... unique because nobody had the same problem, so I don't think you can take my experience and apply it to yours. (network would either crash the kernel, or would just not go any faster than non-pv)13:39
RabidCicadaIt's bottlenecking my plans for other it's good to hear that kvm isn't bad13:39
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viraptorlarsks: stack a couple of --config-file options on one service - later files override the values without problems (I can change set "abc" in the first one and "def" in the second one - nova sees "def"), but I can't find a way to unset a value13:39
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larsksviraptor: Ah.  Can you set it to an empty value? (someconfigval=)13:40
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RabidCicadapeetaur, and anyone else, I was under the impression that pvops short circuited a lot of the internal network stack on the vm guest so it would behave faster...whereas kvm is full virtualization and intercepted later int he incorrect about my understanding?13:40
viraptorlarsks: it's treated as an empty string unfortuantely :(13:41
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larsksviraptor: Bummer.13:41
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peetaurRabidCicada: not sure on specific low level, but virtio is like pv... so while a KVM is still fully virtualized (eg. the hardware clock is still virtual, unlike a full xen pv which has some virtual clock), its drivers can be efficient and virtual13:42
viraptorlarsks: oh well, I can rewrite the config generation... just wanted to make it organised a bit better13:42
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RabidCicadaahhh...very good.13:42
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peetaurRabidCicada: and if you want it to be without the hardware virt, you can probably use LXC    (I say probably, because it's new and I dont' know if it's production ready; it basically replaces OpenVZ)13:43
larsksviraptor: Might be worth asking on or on the mailing list (or even a feature request in the bug tracker).13:43
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MaximBpeetaur: on this guide: aren't both nics are internal?14:07
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Sam-I-AmMaximB: well, sort of.  i think external just describes that you should be able to get to that network from the outside world14:09
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Sam-I-Amthat part of the docs needs a little love14:10
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earthfire87HI all14:12
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earthfire87I'm really confused about the difference between a controller node and compute node14:13
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Sam-I-Amthe controller node manages the stack and the compute node runs the tenant VMs14:14
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earthfire87From the docs a compute node is a cloud computing fabric controller which has me thinking that compute is a controller14:14
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Sam-I-Ami'm not making that connection14:15
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earthfire87Sam-I-Am: I guess from reading about compute and it has controller in the description have me thinking that way14:16
Sam-I-Amwhats the link?14:16
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Sam-I-Amoh, that might be describing the "Compute" service rather than the compute node14:19
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Sam-I-Amthe compute service has two functions... it runs on the controller for management, and on the compute node to launch VMs14:19
Sam-I-Ami agree that wording can be rather confusing14:19
earthfire87Sam-I-Am: Ok now I understand controller managese all the services14:20
earthfire87Sam-I-Am: manages14:20
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earthfire87Sam-I-Am: Thanks for clearing that up for me. I was definitely stumped there14:22
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peetaurWhich log file should I read for more detail if I get a message like this?14:23
peetaurswift -V 2.0 -A $OS_AUTH_URL -U ${OS_TENANT_NAME}:${OS_USERNAME} -K $OS_PASSWORD stat14:23
peetaurEndpoint for object-store not found - have you specified a region?14:23
earthfire87Sam-I-Am: I also would like to know if you know of a all-in-one package for proof of concept. I followed to guides on openstack and had a bunch of dependencies not being met14:23
earthfire87Sam-I-Am: You know of any tutorials that work with redhat14:24
Sam-I-Amredhat rdo is probably the best all-in-one PoC14:24
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earthfire87Sam-I-Am: You have a link14:24
Sam-I-Amthere's a few things you'll need to fix after its installed, but they're documented14:24
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earthfire87Sam-I-Am: Ok go it thanks I'll try it on a virtual machine first before I put it one a server14:25
jamiehif i have a controller server and 1 compute node, which server should i run `nova network-create vmnet` on?14:26
Sam-I-Amjamieh: controller14:26
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Sam-I-Ampretty much all commands are done on the controller14:26
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jamiehi'm getting this when run on controller: ERROR: The server has either erred or is incapable of performing the requested operation. (HTTP 500) (Request-ID: req-e5abb388-0dab-4023-b92b-e3fa235df34f)14:27
jamiehdocs said to install nova-network, etc. on compute node14:27
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Sam-I-Amare you using a 'rc' file with the credentials?14:28
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jamiehi have ~/keystonerc, which contains username, pw, tenant name and auth url14:29
jamiehif you look at step 1 on, does it really mean install nova-network on controller?14:29
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Sam-I-Amyeah, because the controller plays a role in managing nova networks14:30
Sam-I-Amjust like the controller also runs nova, but doesnt run VMs14:30
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earthfire87Sam-I-Am: when I use packstack --allinone I get a dependencies error14:36
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Sam-I-Amearthfire87: which distro/version?14:38
larsksearthfire87: Which dependency error? Also, on what platform?  I ask because tues and wed were test days on #rdo, so we flushed out a bunch of bugs.14:38 packstack...14:38
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earthfire87Sam-I-Am: I'm running redhat 6.514:39
earthfire87Sam-I-Am: Requires rubygems14:40
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larsksearthfire87: Is this packstack from RDO? I believe you need the EPEL repository enabled for RHEL.14:41
earthfire87Sam-I-Am: yes this is packstack from rdo14:41
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koolhead17hi all15:05
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jamiehyou launch an instance from a compute node, right? or the controller?15:09
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Sam-I-Amcontroller, but it runs on the compute node15:09
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jamiehokay, how do you specify the hostname/ip of the compute node when executing `nova boot`15:10
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larsksjamieh: Generally, you don't.  The scheduler selects an available host for you and boots the instance on it.15:10
jamiehhow does the scheduler know about the compute node?15:11
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Sam-I-Amthe compute node registers with it15:11
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Sam-I-Amdo a nova service-list15:11
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Sam-I-Amor nova hypervisor-list15:12
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jamiehi only see controller services when i do `nova service-list` (cert, consoleauth, scheduler, conductor, network)15:13
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Sam-I-Amno nova-compute ?15:15
Sam-I-Amif so, your compute node isnt configured right, or not registering15:15
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JerrycaiHave you configured any compute driver on /etc/nova/nova.conf?15:15
Sam-I-Amcheck the logs on it15:15
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JerrycaiUm, I have a question, does anyone know about tempest cases? Why metadata cannot be changed after create server or volume?15:16
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jamiehthe nova.conf on the compute node? what do i need to do to register this node as nova-compute?15:17
JerrycaiI mean there is a specifed case for checking metadata, if it's not equal with the one before operation, cases fail. But some driver will change it15:17
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Jerrycai@jamieh you may check openstack administrator guide first, it covers the most parts there.15:19
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jamiehthe compute node is supposed to start the nova-compute service, right? i've followed all the steps, but it's not appearing in nova service-list. how does the controller pickup the service of another node?15:33
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larsksjamieh: nova.conf on your compute node needs to have the correct settings to connect to the database and the amqp server.  Also, your controller needs the appropriate firewall rules open to allow these things to connect.15:34
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jamiehis qpid on port 5672?15:36
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jamiehboom, that fixed it15:37
jamiehcontroller needed port 5672 open15:37
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Sam-I-Amjamieh: if you have a firewall on the controller, i'd consider disabling it for testing15:45
Sam-I-Amjust because it can get in the way15:45
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jamiehyeah. so many introductory docs leave out iptables configuration...15:48
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larsksBut careful about clearing out rules that were created by neutron in order to support networking.15:49
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jamiehso after creating a network using nova-networks, is it completely virtual? i'm doing all this on cloud nodes which have 1 ip address allocated to them. i don't know how i'd access new instances on the compute node if it only has 1 public ip15:53
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woodruffHello, has anyone used Mininet and can tell me if it can simulate Cisco Switches ? (does it support LLDP for topology discovery and etc..)16:09
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decedeDoes anyone know if there will be OpenStack talks at fosdem this year?16:16
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Sam-I-Amlarsks: usually i just do a chkconfig iptables off and chkconfig ip6tables off ... then let nova do its own thing16:16
Sam-I-Amlarsks: this issue was addressed in a recent patch to the install docs16:17
viraptorso I've got a node that has conductor.use_local=false, but it still connects to the database - is there any additional switch I need to update?16:17
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larsksSam-I-Am: Cool.16:17
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mili_I cannot see networking in dashboad16:28
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mili_the neutron is working fine16:28
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mili_I can create networks...16:28
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mili_but no netwroking in dashboadrd16:28
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mili_help is really apritiated16:30
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gigawhatneed some help troubleshooting nova-scheduler on our controller. when i run nova service-list it shows nova-scheduler and nova compute as down, but the the nova-scheduler and compute process are running.16:53
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gigawhatrestarted all of the nova services thinking that would help, but after restarting services, samething16:54
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viraptorgigawhat: have you checked the logs? service list :-)/XXX depends on the last update timestamp in the database - so either the process cannot update its entry, or it's not running in general - the log should tell you exactly what's going on17:17
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earthfire87I'm having a problem installing rdo packstack on redhat17:26
earthfire87I'm recieving this error17:26
illsci_hey whats up... I'm trying to figure out why the nodes I launch into my openstack setup take a long time to start responding on port 22/ssh.  I can't actually ever get in which I would like to fix too but I'm curious what logs I can look at or just what I can do to troubleshoot this?17:27
illsci_I only have a controller node and two compute nodes17:27
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earthfire87Error: Error appeared during Puppet run:
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viraptorillsci_: if you look at the instance's console log it will tell you how long it took to get the metadata / ip / other things. Look for lines that say something like "Took (xxx)s to (do something)"17:28
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illsci_ok... let me check17:28
viraptorillsci_: it may give you an idea what's taking most time17:28
earthfire87Error: Package: 1:python-flask-0.9-5.el6.noarch(epel)17:29
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sepskihello... Is openstack a viable alternative to vmware vcenter vshphere for a company that does mostly regular virtualization, and not cloud yet (no elastic, no on demand, and no metering) or is it too much in development ? should one rather look at things like proxmox.17:31
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earthfire87Sam-I-Am are you still on17:35
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daveopssepski: if you treat openstack as free vmware, you're gonna have a bad time17:50
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Sam-I-Amearthfire87: yeah17:52
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gigawhatviraptor: thanks for the info. i looked through the logs and didnt see anything. i'll keep looking.17:54
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illsci_hmm it looks like its the metadata service...18:09
illsci_2014-01-09 16:50:56,555 -[WARNING]: Calling '' failed [0/120s]: request error [[Errno 113] No route to host]18:09
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earthfire87Hi all18:09
illsci_where can I look on the controller or compute node to see what's going on with that18:09
earthfire87Has any one every tried to install rdo and got an error saying it requires python-sphinx18:10
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Sam-I-Amillsci_: what networking?18:11
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illsci_I think18:13
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earthfire87Sam-I-Am Have you ever tried to install rdo and got an error saying it requires python-sphinx18:15
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Sam-I-Amearthfire87: no... the dependencies usually resolved themselves18:18
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Sam-I-Amillsci_: check out the metadata log on the network node. my guess is its either configured wrong or for some reason its not adding a route to the metadata ip18:19
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Sam-I-Amgotta run for a bit18:20
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miguitasHi, I have one question, with cisco nexus plugin do I have HA in networking (having cisco switches in HA)?18:30
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albionandrewWhat is the easiest way to remove a node from the Nova database? The node has gone but still shows in the service list.18:35
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illsci_hmm yeah it looks like the metadata api service won't start18:55
illsci_2013-12-19 21:28:15.098 45032 CRITICAL nova [-] [Errno 98] Address already in use18:55
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JoeJulianI'm getting this error in havana while trying to set up a vpn: Timeout while waiting on RPC response - topic: "ipsec_driver", RPC method: "get_vpn_services_on_host" info: "<unknown>"19:48
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Gamekiller77Any Heat peeps in the house20:39
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larsksDepends on what you need.20:40
Gamekiller77hey larsks simple it looks like i have to have EC2 api on my keystone for heat to work20:41
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Gamekiller77do you know if this is true20:41
Gamekiller77also for init cloud too20:41
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larsksI am successfully using heat without using the EC2 no, not required.  I'm using heat with native HOT templates (rather than the AWS-compatible cloudformation templates).20:44
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Gamekiller77i may need to do that20:44
Gamekiller77need to find a simple HOT template20:44
Gamekiller77something simple to test20:44
Gamekiller77but cloud-init need EC2 or am i wrong there too?20:45
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larskscloud-init doesn't authenticate to anything.  It just uses the metadata API available via unauthenticated http requests from the instance.20:45
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larsksSo cloud-init doesn't need keystone at all.20:45
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Gamekiller77what metadata service do i hit then20:51
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Gamekiller77bit cloudy there20:51
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larsksGamekiller77: I'm not sure I understand your question.  The metadata service is started automatically by nova-api.  It's typically available at via NAT magic set up by either nova-networking or neutron.20:54
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larskscloud-init will use it automatically if it's available.20:54
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larsksSo from inside an instance you can run "curl" to hit the top level of the API.20:54
Gamekiller77so i have neutron an a differnt server20:54
larsksThat's okay.20:54
Gamekiller77it times out20:55
Gamekiller77saying it can not find the server at that IP20:55
larsksDo you otherwise have functional networking?20:55
Gamekiller77in and out20:55
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Gamekiller77floating IP works fine too20:55
larsksDoes your instance have a route to  This is sometimes installed to support zeroconf, but causes problems with access to the metadata server.20:56
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Gamekiller77it what ever setup with the GRE on neutron20:56
larsksI mean inside your instance...if you log in and run "ip route".20:57
JoeJulianWhat is supposed to be the rpc consumer of an ipsec_driver message? It looks like nothing ever reads it.20:57
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Gamekiller77ooo let me try20:58
larsksJoeJulian: Have you tried #openstack-neutron?20:59
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Gamekiller77larsks, no there is not route to that subnet21:00
JoeJulianlarsks: Nope, thanks.21:00
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larsksGamekiller77: Hmm, weird then, since other stuff is working.21:01
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Gamekiller77yah where would it pull the routing from21:02
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larsksThe magic that makes that ip work is inside the qrouter namespace on your neutron host.21:03
Gamekiller77hmm ok21:04
Gamekiller77new thing to lookup now21:04
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larsksRun "ip netns", and you should see something like qrouter-acc6b46f-d040-490f-8d1f-7d6f9a0df8d9.  You can look inside the namespace like this:21:04
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larsksip netns exec qrouter-acc6b46f-d040-490f-8d1f-7d6f9a0df8d9 <command>21:04
larsksSo for example:21:04
larsksip netns exec qrouter-acc6b46f-d040-490f-8d1f-7d6f9a0df8d9 ip addr21:04
larsks(to see the interfaces and addresses)21:04
larsksip netns exec qrouter-acc6b46f-d040-490f-8d1f-7d6f9a0df8d9 iptables -t nat -S21:04
larsksto see the NAT rules21:04
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larsks...which is where you'll find the NAT rule that takes traffic to and sends it to the appropriate location.21:05
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mili_Hi, When I'm creating a volume it get stuck in creating......21:27
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mili_please look at this for full logs21:27
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jgriffithmili_: what do you see after "suod lvs"21:29
jgriffitherr... sudo21:30
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mili_I cannot see my cinder volume21:31
mili_it is called cinder-volumes121:32
jgriffithmili_: so your first problem is that there's no VG21:32
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jgriffithmili_: you need to create VG cinder-volumes1 yourself21:32
jgriffithmili_: vgcreate21:32
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mili_it is already created21:33
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mili_when i try to create it again i get  A volume group called cinder-volumes1 already exists.21:33
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jgriffithhmm... your vgs output you just posted doesn't show it?21:34
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jgriffithOh.. that was lvs output21:35
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jgriffithcan you mili_ can you try it without specifying a volume-type?21:36
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mili_what do you mean21:39
jgriffithYour "cinder create" call appears to have a volume-type associated with it21:39
jgriffith'volume_type_id': u'bf83e88b-02e0-4b58-8e2b-821668afc5b5'21:40
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mili_same thing21:41
mili_stuck in creation21:41
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jgriffithmili_: ok, so there's got to be a clue in either the scheduler logs or the volume logs21:42
jgriffithmili_: ie the last place the create call was seen and what it was doing21:42
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mili_you are right, it is saying that volume group cinder-volumes1 was not found21:44
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jgriffithmili_: :)21:44
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jgriffithmili_: what OS are you running on?21:45
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mili_12.0.4 ubuntu21:45
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mili_the volume is not inside the machine21:45
mili_it is on a dell san and i mounted it to the linux machine21:46
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jgriffithmili_: Oh?  You mean the VG is not on the box?21:46
jgriffithmili_: but you said "vgs shows it"?21:46
jgriffithI'm now confused21:46
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mili_it dose show it21:46
jgriffithmili_: hmm... can you paste the output of the command in the trace there?21:46
jgriffithmili_: "sudo env LC_ALL=C LANG=C vgs --noheadings --unit=g -o name,size,free,lv_count,uuid --separator : --nosuffix cinder-volumes1"21:47
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jgriffithmili_: any chance your scheduler is running on the wrong node?21:48
mili_the schduler is on the controller node21:49
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jgriffithmili_: err.. sorry I meant the "volume-service"21:49
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mili_no it is on the block one device21:49
jgriffithmili_: it doesn't look like it is21:50
jgriffithmili_: I mean.. if the vgs works when you run it where expected and it doesn't on the other?21:50
jgriffithseems odd to me21:50
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jgriffithwe could add some debug messages in there to try and get more info21:50
mili_I really appritiate your help21:51
jgriffithlike a log.DEBUG(_('HOST IS: %s' % socket.get_hostname))21:51
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jgriffithjust "socket.gethostname" I believe21:51
jgriffithmili_: do you know how to do that?21:52
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mili_no :(21:52
jgriffithmili_: no worries, I can help.. just a sec21:52
jgriffithLooks like you're running source?21:52
jgriffithie, how are you installing?  devstack, packages, etc?21:52
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jgriffithmili_: ok, so here's how this works...21:54
jgriffithmili_: that failing call you're seeing... it's issued by the cinder volume-manager21:54
jgriffithmili_: it sends a call to the volume-driver to update it's stats info21:54
jgriffithmili_: that cmd fails21:55
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jgriffithmili_: which lead me to wonder if the volume-service was not running on the correct node21:55
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jgriffithmili_: give me a second to look at your cinder.conf file again21:55
mili_sure, thanks21:55
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jgriffithmili_: so based on your config you're running everything on a single server?21:56
mili_I have a network node, controller node , 3 compute nodes and one block node21:57
mili_the only thing runnng on the block node should be cinder-volume21:57
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jgriffithmili_: hmmm... it really looks like the cinder-volume service isn't running where you think it is21:58
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jgriffithmili_: ie like on the controller node21:58
mili_when i restart the service it restarts it just fine21:59
jgriffithmili_: you could verify with "cinder service-list"21:59
jgriffithmili_: that will show the cinder services and what the node name is that they're running on21:59
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jgriffithand what it's state is22:00
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mili_all looks fine...22:00
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mili_I checked almost every other log on the system22:02
mili_but i cant find anything related to this else where22:02
jgriffithmili_: the volume log should have something similar22:03
jgriffithmili_: since it generated the exception22:03
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mili_Volume group "cinder-volumes1" not found\n'22:04
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mili_this is the main thing there22:04
mili_inder.openstack.common.periodic_task [-] Error during VolumeManager._report_driver_status: Unexpected error while running command.22:05
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mili_sudo cinder-rootwrap /etc/cinder/rootwrap.conf env LC_ALL=C LANG=C vgs --noheadings --unit=g -o name,size,free,lv_count,uuid --separator : --nosuffix cinder-volumes122:05
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jgriffithmili_: can you set "debug=True" in your cinder.conf file, restart and try again?22:08
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mili_sure, 1 sec22:09
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mili_ volume b33d2508-f0b1-4e0a-add0-8bd80a4959b8: skipping export22:12
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mili_i updated the github comment22:13
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jgriffithmili_: yeah, that's the init failing on driver startup22:14
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jgriffithmili_: since it can't find the vg22:14
jgriffithmili_: the log: var/log/cinder/volume.log should have some debug info in it now22:14
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jgriffithmili_: ie showing the init and the failure etc22:14
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koolhead17ekarlso: we missed it today too :P22:16
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mili_i cant figure it out22:17
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jgriffithmili_: was there by chance some more info that might have been clipped in that last update to the gist you made?22:17
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mili_i sent it for you22:17
mili_1 sec22:18
mili_just updated it22:18
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jgriffithmili_: ok... I have an idea22:23
jgriffithmili_: this is kinda lame, but worth trying to get more info22:23
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mili_go for it22:24
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jgriffithmili_: if you can find the file, should be like python/site-packages/cinder xxxx22:24
jgriffithmili_: you can do a "sudo find / -name"22:24
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jgriffithmili_: then edit the file, in "def get_volume_stats(self, refresh=False)"  add a debug line:22:25
jgriffithmili_: LOG.debug(_('This is host: %s' % socket.gethostname()))22:25
mili_on it22:25
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hescobuilding my first openstack and curious to know how large a partition I should give over to the boot installation on a compute node.22:27
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mili_there are two of them22:27
jgriffithmili_: yeah, ones a symlink I believe22:28
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hescoI'm thinking that the left over disk space might set off as a partition given to a ceph node on the same hardware.  As a cost-cutting starter plan, is that absolutely crazy?22:28
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mili_i restarted the service22:30
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mili_and updateed github22:30
larskshesco: really depends on how many images of what size you want to support.  Using leftover space isn't crazy, but maybe not as easily managed in the long term.  Fine for getting things going.22:30
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jgriffithmili_: well this is annoying :)22:31
hescothanks larsks22:31
jgriffithmili_: says we're block 1, bu tthe vgs call fails, although you can run it fine manually22:31
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hescoso larsk, any advice on how large a partition the compute node's native os needs?22:31
mili_I see ....22:32
kallisti5what does neutron expect in the way of sudo access?  Did a fresh rdo install, and it seems like l3-agent is attempting to run sudo22:32
larskshesco: Not huge, especially if you separate out the storage used by things like nova and glance.22:32
kallisti5(and nothing in sudoers mentions neutron, or any neutron groups)22:32
hesco20gb? 100gb?22:32
larsks8-10 GB is fine for the basic os.22:32
hescoeventually I will build a logging server, but not immediately22:33
hescothanks, that is helpful.22:33
larsksUse the extra space for image hosting.  Consider having logs not on your root partition.22:33
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larsksnova and glance both need space for images (although glance can use any of several backends)22:34
kallisti5wait... nevermind.22:34
kallisti5just found /etc/sudoers.d/neutron :-)22:34
kallisti5hm.. odd sudo is still giving permission denied for neutron22:34
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larskskallisti5: Is there any chance you upgraded from something running quantum?22:34
Sam-I-Amkallisti5: is this on a redhat-like os?22:34
larsksNevermind, you said fresh install.22:35
hescook, so do I set aside swap now at the partitioning step for the images this thing will host?  and can I later divide up that swap and allocate it among the images?22:35
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hescoI have a 24gb physical ram, I'm wondering if 48gb of swap would be appropriate.22:35
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larsksNot sure what you mean by "swap".  Here I'm talking about space used to store the disk images you upload into glance, and the images provisioned when you boot an instance.22:35
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larsksSwap space is going to depend on your physical ram and other requirements.22:36
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larsksUsing 48GB of swap won't hurt, although honestly, if things start swapping you will be unhappy regardless of how much swap space you have.22:36
larsksBetter to avoid overcommitting memory...22:37
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hescook, I was told I could overbook ram at 1.5:1 and vcpu's at 4:122:37
kallisti5Sam-I-Am: same as yesterday :-)22:38
kallisti5fresh rdo install on CentOS 6.522:38
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kallisti5same error as yesterday, but now see this as well in l3-agent22:39
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kallisti5looks like a permissions issue... but odd as rootwrap should be sudo'ed ok22:40
kallisti5unless that error may be coming from ovs22:40
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larskshesco: Really depends on your particular workloads.22:41
kallisti5Sam-I-Am: ran this after su - 'ing to neutron.. works fine:  sudo neutron-rootwrap /etc/neutron/rootwrap.conf ip netns exec qrouter-76776640-6c0e-4733-910e-a2a8dfddd154 sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=22:42
larskshesco: From an email I saw earlier today from a large site, "For compute intensive workloads we schedule 1:1, for random webhosting type loads we've run up to 9:1 and still had the physical systems 80% idle"22:43
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kallisti5Sam-I-Am: if neutron is running in some chroot, maybe it is having problems mounting sys?22:43
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kallisti5larsks: no upgrade, fresh22:45
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larskskallisti5: what os are you running on?22:45
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kallisti5larsks: CentOS 6.522:46
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larsksDo you have selinux enabled?22:46
kallisti5yup... just looked at that as well22:46
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kallisti5enforcing :-)22:47
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larsksset it to permissive, restart everything, collect the AVC errors from /var/log/audit/audit.log and open a bug against rdo on
kallisti5ah. disabled, rebooting to give everything a chance to work on boot22:48
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kallisti5sorry.  I'll change it to permissive and collect the issues for a bug22:48
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* kallisti5 doesn't care much about selinux22:48
hescoMy clients are almost exclusively running web sites and some web services, those are encouraging numbers.  Thanks for that.22:48
hescothanks larsks22:49
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mutexso I just setup keystone to work with my ldap authentication, and now I cannot login as administrator22:50
mutexis there a way to keep the admin account ?22:50
mutexDo I need to go hacking in the SQL tables now ?22:50
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datamaticnope, no hacking the db needed22:56
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datamatic@mutex does your driver use IAF for any assertions?23:03
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datamaticu can overload your BaseIdentity's authenticate() method to do a local check first and then do an LDAP authentication23:07
kallisti5Stderr: '/bin/sh: collie: command not found\n'23:08
kallisti5hm.. seems rdo should install sheepdog23:08
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slowekallisti5: I think that's a known error and doesn't actually affect functionality. I saw the same thing building a test environment in my home lab.23:09
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kallisti5found the error...23:12
kallisti5"\'image\' uses a qcow2 feature which is not supported by this qemu version: QCOW version 3\\nCould not open \'/var/lib/nova/instances/_base/01c00b30f6c2f3f53cfe275d006b3cc5793e11e5.part\': Operation not supported\\n"23:12
mutexdatamatic: I don't think so, and actually the keystone documentation says that I should be able to use SQL for 'assignment'23:13
mutexbut i don't have an 'assignemnt' stanza in my grizzly keystone config23:13
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mutexah yes, looks like that is havanna only23:20
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datamatichmm I am unsure abt Grizzly/Havanna. But from what I undertand, your roles can be managed in SQL but the users and gruops can be done through LDAP23:22
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mutexanyone have experience with nova hooks ? I installed my 'hook' with 'python install' but I don't see any logs from the hook manager about it being loaded23:32
mutexI'm looking for advice on where to start debugging ;-)23:32
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kenperkinsannegentle_ still online?23:41
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