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Hahaha78 | Hi all | 01:07 |
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Hahaha78 | I'm wanting to know what's the difference between a controller and compute node | 01:08 |
Sam-I-Am | the compute node runs the tenant VMs | 01:08 |
Sam-I-Am | the controller node manages everything | 01:08 |
Hahaha78 | Sam-I-Am: Can the compute node also be a controller | 01:09 |
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Hahaha78 | Sam-I-Am: The reason I'm asking is because me and my team today had a debate about that and I'm not certain if I'm right. I thought that it was not possible | 01:10 |
slowe | Hahaha78: You can run in an "all-in-1" configuration, where a single node is both controller and compute node. Good for testing/experimentation. | 01:11 |
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Sam-I-Am | yeah, all in one is good for a proof of concept | 01:12 |
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Hahaha78 | slowe: But in production they would be on different nodes right. I guess what I'm trying to understand is that compute and controller are two different parts of openstack and not the same thing | 01:13 |
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slowe | Hahaha78: Yes, in a typical production environment the controller role and the compute node role would be on separate physical systems. | 01:13 |
Hahaha78 | slowe: Ok thanks thats what I thought | 01:14 |
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slowe | Hahaha78: You'll see people use the term "controller" because it is running various parts of OpenStack, such as Keystone, Glance, Nova-API, etc. The terms "controller" and "compute node" don't necessarily map exactly to specific packages/projects. | 01:14 |
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Hahaha78 | slowe: Ok thanks | 01:16 |
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slowe | Hahaha78: NP. | 01:16 |
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BALLS_ | hi | 01:26 |
BALLS_ | can anyone help to provide advise on setting up neutron? | 01:27 |
larsks | Maybe? Depends on what sort of advice you're looking for. | 01:27 |
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BALLS_ | larsks: thanks for your reply | 01:30 |
BALLS_ | I have setup three nodes based on the openstack guidelines | 01:30 |
BALLS_ | I have setup three nodes based on the openstack guidelines. | 01:30 |
BALLS_ | one controller , one network and one compute node running on CentOS | 01:30 |
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BALLS_ | I have setup GRE in OVS | 01:31 |
larsks | ...okay... | 01:31 |
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BALLS_ | I also finished the steps on this http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/yum/content/install-neutron.configure-networks.html | 01:32 |
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BALLS_ | my question is how I can sure the configuration is correct, and what next? | 01:32 |
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larsks | The best way to validate the configuration is to use it -- boot an image and see if you have the network connectivity you expect. | 01:33 |
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BALLS_ | I am thinking of that, so what step I should follow? | 01:33 |
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BALLS_ | should I use back the step on nova networking like this line? | 01:34 |
BALLS_ | http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/yum/content/nova-boot.html | 01:34 |
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larsks | You would use the "nova boot" command to boot an instance. You would probably need to add the "--nic net-id=<uuid of network>" option to specify the network to use (whatever the UUID of the "demo-net" was). | 01:35 |
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larsks | You would of course first need to upload an image into Glance... | 01:35 |
larsks | And then your command would look something like: | 01:36 |
larsks | nova boot --image myimage --flavor m1.small --key-name mykeyname --nic net-id=xxx myinstancename | 01:36 |
larsks | You could do the same thing using the dashboard and your browser if you're not feeling comfortable with the command line. | 01:36 |
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BALLS_ | ooops | 01:37 |
BALLS_ | a silly question | 01:37 |
BALLS_ | the net-id of demo-net | 01:37 |
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BALLS_ | [root@network01 neutron]# neutron net-list +--------------------------------------+----------+--------------------------------------------------+ | id | name | subnets | +--------------------------------------+----------+--------------------------------------------------+ | 027d2aa9-35f2-41bd-87b3-b618b6287449 | demo-net | f53237f4-7897-47c0-a5dc-f74562 | 01:38 |
BALLS_ | can be find out by the above command rite? | 01:38 |
larsks | The "id" column is the id, yes. | 01:38 |
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BALLS_ | and it is 027d2aa9-35f2-41bd-87b3-b618b6287449, rite? | 01:38 |
BALLS_ | great! | 01:38 |
larsks | 027d2aa9-35f2-41bd-87b3-b618b6287449 <-- this value | 01:38 |
BALLS_ | let me do a trial | 01:38 |
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BALLS_ | larsks: failed to create. I am going to check on the log | 01:45 |
BALLS_ | [root@compute03 ~]# nova boot --flavor 1 --key_name mykey1 --image f8c1a594-b928-4300-af29-e5b83b39eed1 --security_group default --nic net-id=027d2aa9-35f2-41bd-87b3-b618b6287449 Cirros_B ERROR: Invalid key_name provided. (HTTP 400) (Request-ID: req-ecf6e0cb-30f7-48b6-bc07-bf8c3bbfb802) | 01:45 |
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BALLS_ | larsks: are you here? | 01:52 |
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BALLS_ | anyone has idea on this error? | 01:53 |
BALLS_ | {u'message': u"local variable 'network_name' referenced before assignment", u'code': 500, u'details': u' File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/nova/compute/manager.py", line 258, in decorated_function | 01:53 |
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BALLS_ | hi | 02:26 |
BALLS_ | I have problem to delete instance | 02:26 |
BALLS_ | I have issued " nova delete c66d2c11-38e3-4b13-8e79-45d1e7d268ce" without any error | 02:27 |
BALLS_ | but the instance still remain in the system, any idea? | 02:27 |
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BALLS_ | anyone can help? | 02:33 |
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Sam-I-Am | usually that means something is stuck. you may have a config issue where some parts are looking for nova-net, and other parts are looking for neutron | 02:38 |
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BALLS_ | Sam-I-Am: Can advice what I can check? | 02:47 |
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BALLS_ | anyone can help? | 02:52 |
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BALLS_ | I checked on the /var/log/nova/compute.log | 02:56 |
BALLS_ | it has below error | 02:56 |
BALLS_ | 2014-01-09 10:54:59.834 1778 TRACE nova.openstack.common.rpc.amqp UnboundLocalError: local variable 'network_name' referenced before assignment | 02:56 |
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Sam-I-Am | what commands did you use to create your networks? there should be an external network owned by the admin tenant, and then a tenant network/router owned by the 'user' tenant | 02:58 |
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BALLS_ | I followed the installation guide | 03:00 |
BALLS_ | it seems that both internal and external network is owned by the same tenant | 03:01 |
Sam-I-Am | did you create a 'user' tenant? | 03:01 |
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BALLS_ | I create a tenant named tenant1 | 03:02 |
BALLS_ | [root@compute03 nova]# keystone tenant-list|grep tenant1 | b85eeba9902b4d03b4ef3cabb516c009 | tenant1 | True | | 03:02 |
BALLS_ | is it what you meant? | 03:02 |
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Sam-I-Am | yeah | 03:03 |
Sam-I-Am | did you create an 'rc' file for that tenant? | 03:03 |
BALLS_ | err | 03:04 |
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BALLS_ | how to check or how to do that? | 03:05 |
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Sam-I-Am | when you started installing openstack, did you create a keystone or openrc file? | 03:08 |
BALLS_ | ok. you meant this rite? | 03:09 |
BALLS_ | export OS_USERNAME=admin export OS_PASSWORD=abc123 export OS_TENANT_NAME=admin export OS_AUTH_URL=http://controller02:35357/v2.0 | 03:09 |
Sam-I-Am | yeah, that thing | 03:09 |
BALLS_ | yes. I also did that | 03:09 |
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Sam-I-Am | you can create one just like it, but for your user tenant | 03:09 |
BALLS_ | so do u mean the tenant name should be using "tenant1" instead of "admin" | 03:10 |
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Sam-I-Am | when you created the tenant, did you create a username under it? | 03:13 |
BALLS_ | um... | 03:13 |
BALLS_ | I follow the steps of this link. | 03:13 |
BALLS_ | http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/yum/content/install-neutron.configure-networks.html | 03:13 |
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Sam-I-Am | that part kind of assumes you have your tenants configured right | 03:15 |
Sam-I-Am | what's the output of 'keystone user-list' ? | 03:16 |
Sam-I-Am | and try using pastebin or something rather than tossing output in here | 03:16 |
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BALLS_ | sorry. pastebin? | 03:17 |
Sam-I-Am | pastebin.com | 03:18 |
chance | pastebin.com | 03:18 |
chance | or your favorite website to paste output to | 03:18 |
chance | just dont paste your output directly into IRC | 03:18 |
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BALLS_ | u mean this, rite? | 03:20 |
BALLS_ | http://pastebin.com/4jQp4hKA | 03:20 |
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Sam-I-Am | yeah | 03:22 |
BALLS_ | can u see the output? | 03:22 |
Sam-I-Am | yup | 03:22 |
Sam-I-Am | so it seems like you dont have a user under your tenant | 03:22 |
BALLS_ | great | 03:22 |
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BALLS_ | oops | 03:22 |
BALLS_ | what should I do? | 03:22 |
Sam-I-Am | do this... | 03:23 |
Sam-I-Am | keystone user-create --name=tenant1 --pass=pass --tenant-id tenant1 --email=tenant@domain.com | 03:23 |
Sam-I-Am | then keystone role-create --role member | 03:24 |
Sam-I-Am | then keystone user-role-add --tenant-id tenant1 --user-id tenant1 --role-id member | 03:25 |
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BALLS_ | can u do a check? | 03:29 |
BALLS_ | http://pastebin.com/wLdvwZH5 | 03:29 |
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BALLS_ | Sam-I-AM: I do not know how to check back the setting after user-role-add | 03:30 |
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Sam-I-Am | yeah thats fine | 03:31 |
Sam-I-Am | so now create a keystonerc-tenant1 file (or whatever you want to call it) with those variable we talked about earlier... only the os user is tenant1, os password is whatever you made it, and os tenant is tenant1 | 03:31 |
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Sam-I-Am | using rc files is the easiest way to change users on the command line... 'source keyrc-admin' to become admin, 'source keyrc-tenant1' to become tenant1 | 03:33 |
BALLS_ | yes | 03:33 |
BALLS_ | then? | 03:33 |
Sam-I-Am | we need to get rid of the networks you made | 03:34 |
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BALLS_ | errr | 03:35 |
BALLS_ | how to do that? can help? | 03:35 |
Sam-I-Am | as the admin tenant, whats 'neutron net-list' show? | 03:35 |
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BALLS_ | http://pastebin.com/2fPLFFyi | 03:36 |
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Sam-I-Am | whats the output of neutron net-show ext-net and neutron net-show demo-net? | 03:38 |
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BALLS_ | http://pastebin.com/VBwPxyCG | 03:39 |
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Sam-I-Am | whats neutron subnet-list show? | 03:40 |
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BALLS_ | http://pastebin.com/B2PLwxxS | 03:41 |
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Sam-I-Am | can you do a 'neutron subnet-show' for each of those IDs? | 03:44 |
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BALLS_ | sure | 03:45 |
BALLS_ | http://pastebin.com/C5y9Wgdi | 03:45 |
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Sam-I-Am | hmm | 03:47 |
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Sam-I-Am | so is your public/external network 10.0.0.0/24 ? | 03:48 |
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Sam-I-Am | the one associated with br-ex on the network node? | 03:48 |
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BALLS_ | question | 03:51 |
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BALLS_ | the subnet to access internet is actually 192.168.0.0/24 | 03:51 |
BALLS_ | I am not sure whether I should use this or assigned another one like 10.0.0.0/24 | 03:52 |
Sam-I-Am | ok, so we need to change some stuff | 03:52 |
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Sam-I-Am | if br-ex is on the 192.168.0.0/24 network | 03:53 |
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BALLS_ | [root@network01 log]# ovs-vsctl list-ifaces br-ex eth1 tapa092ff15-59 | 03:54 |
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BALLS_ | this should be on network node, rite? | 03:55 |
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Sam-I-Am | yeah, br-ex needs to use your external interface as the underlying interface | 03:56 |
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Sam-I-Am | so whatever network that sits on | 03:56 |
BALLS_ | the ex-br should be on 192.168.0.0/24 | 03:56 |
Sam-I-Am | ok | 03:57 |
Sam-I-Am | so do a neutron subnet-delete <id> for both of your subnet | 03:57 |
Sam-I-Am | if that doesn't work there's some other things we need to do first | 03:58 |
BALLS_ | yes. I think need to remove some dependency | 03:59 |
Sam-I-Am | probably the gateway | 03:59 |
Sam-I-Am | and/or router | 03:59 |
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BALLS_ | give me 5 mins. I remove everything on that 1st | 04:01 |
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Sam-I-Am | ok | 04:01 |
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BALLS_ | I cannot remove as one IP has been allocated to the demo-net | 04:04 |
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BALLS_ | and the instance cannot be removed | 04:04 |
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Sam-I-Am | can't remove the subnet? | 04:05 |
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BALLS_ | {"network_id": "b6d746f0-c029-4ae7-89ac-606b84f5162e", "enable_snat": true} | 04:07 |
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troya | hi al | 04:07 |
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troya | i try to import cirros on my glance, but i got error like "External sourcing not supported for store cirros-0.3.0-x86_64-disk.img" | 04:08 |
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Sam-I-Am | troya: what command did you use? | 04:08 |
BALLS_ | becasue the IP has been assigned to the instance | 04:08 |
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troya | Sam-I-Am: glance image-create --name=cirros --disk-format=qcow2 --container-format=bare --is-public=false --location=cirros-0.3.0-x86_64-disk.img | 04:08 |
Sam-I-Am | BALLS_: hmm... gotta figure out how to clear that bad instance | 04:08 |
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BALLS_ | yes. I tried many times, but not able to do | 04:09 |
troya | Sam-I-Am: detail like here > http://pastebin.com/eH4EdsRt | 04:09 |
Sam-I-Am | troya: 'location' only accepts a url. if you have a file, use --file | 04:09 |
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Sam-I-Am | BALLS_: have you tried restarting things? | 04:10 |
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BALLS_ | I have reboot the compute node | 04:11 |
BALLS_ | failed | 04:11 |
BALLS_ | maybe I should try all three nodes? | 04:11 |
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BALLS_ | let me try | 04:11 |
troya | Sam-I-Am: get different error with --file parameter http://pastebin.com/bEE1ujtn | 04:12 |
troya | but wait, i try to user location and set url for location | 04:12 |
troya | http://pastebin.com/bEE1ujtn | 04:12 |
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Sam-I-Am | so that 500 error is a glance error... these things communicate with each other using http | 04:13 |
troya | http://pastebin.com/HVw2Fa2p | 04:14 |
troya | i get it. | 04:14 |
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troya | i change to location and http | 04:14 |
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Sam-I-Am | so... what's glance image-list show? | 04:14 |
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troya | Thanks sam, i think it's working with location=http://.. | 04:16 |
troya | http://pastebin.com/7AWuqkLd | 04:16 |
Sam-I-Am | cool | 04:16 |
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troya | thanks Sam, i will go to configure nova now | 04:18 |
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BALLS_ | Sam-I-Am: I am still trying, but I will be await soon, can we continue tomorrow? | 04:27 |
BALLS_ | away | 04:27 |
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Sam-I-Am | yeah, i have to go too | 04:30 |
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Sam-I-Am | i'll be around on and off tomorrow | 04:30 |
BALLS_ | ok | 04:30 |
BALLS_ | one question, can we create a new IP assignment if the subnet cannot be created? | 04:30 |
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Sam-I-Am | we probably can... i would rather clean up any cruft though | 04:31 |
Sam-I-Am | there might be a config issue somewhere thats causing the hangup | 04:31 |
BALLS_ | ok | 04:31 |
BALLS_ | see u tmr | 04:31 |
BALLS_ | thanks the help | 04:32 |
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Sam-I-Am | np | 04:37 |
BALLS_ | Sam-I-Am: this is the error from /var/log/nova/compute.log | 04:38 |
BALLS_ | http://pastebin.com/7swNS5hr | 04:38 |
BALLS_ | anyway gtg | 04:38 |
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teju | how to see rabbitmq messages in a browser using rabbitmq management plug in? | 05:14 |
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Sam-I-Am | troya: http://www.rabbitmq.com/management.html | 05:15 |
teju | Sam-I-Am: i am following the same docs...but,where is rabbitmq-plugins command? | 05:16 |
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Sam-I-Am | what distro? | 05:18 |
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teju | ubuntu 12.04 | 05:18 |
teju | rabbitmq version 2.7.2 | 05:18 |
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Sam-I-Am | its probably not in your path | 05:20 |
teju | rabbit version 2.7.1 | 05:21 |
teju | yes... | 05:21 |
teju | do I have to install rabbitmq-admin?? | 05:21 |
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Sam-I-Am | /usr/lib/rabbitmq/lib/rabbitmq_server-2.7.1/sbin | 05:21 |
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koolhead17 | notmyname: swift global clusters about to start (in about 10-15 minutes). livestream at http://timvideos.us/lt2 | 05:22 |
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koolhead17 | *started | 05:22 |
teju | Sam-I-Am : rabbitmq-plugins enable rabbitmq_management | 05:24 |
teju | command not found | 05:24 |
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Sam-I-Am | how did you execute that command? | 05:25 |
iscsi | teju: dpkg -S rabbitmq-plugins | 05:26 |
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teju | Error: "The following plugins could not be found:\n rabbitmq_management\n\n" | 05:27 |
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teju | i copied rabbitmq-plugins and rabbitmq-env to /usr/sbin | 05:28 |
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koolhead17 | teju: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8548983/how-to-install-rabbitmq-management-plugin-rabbitmq-plugins/16589664#16589664 | 05:29 |
koolhead17 | see if this helps ^^ | 05:29 |
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teju | koolhead17: thanks...it worked | 05:34 |
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koolhead17 | teju: now u owe me some beer :) | 05:34 |
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teju | koolhead17: wer r u 4m? | 05:35 |
koolhead17 | teju: where ever you are i will come and collect it. don`t wrry :) | 05:35 |
teju | koolhead17: come 2 India | 05:36 |
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kallisti5 | anyone seen this before? 2014-01-09 00:57:56.461 17167 TRACE neutron.agent.dhcp_agent Stderr: 'Cannot find device "tape7578960-10"\n' | 05:58 |
kallisti5 | looks like neutron is expecting a "tape7578960-10" ethernet card device | 05:58 |
kallisti5 | (did the redhat openstack install on centos) | 05:59 |
Sam-I-Am | kallisti5: rdo? | 05:59 |
kallisti5 | Sam-I-Am: yeah | 06:00 |
Sam-I-Am | all-in-one box with a single nic? | 06:00 |
kallisti5 | yeah, but i enabled neutron and a few other bits | 06:00 |
Sam-I-Am | i think it does neutron by default now | 06:00 |
Sam-I-Am | did you do anything with br-ex? | 06:01 |
kallisti5 | nope | 06:01 |
kallisti5 | stock Centos 6.5 | 06:01 |
kallisti5 | ran rdo | 06:01 |
kallisti5 | created a private network in horizon | 06:01 |
kallisti5 | (with dhcp server + private network) | 06:01 |
kallisti5 | added a router, but no external ip there to set | 06:01 |
Sam-I-Am | so first thing to do is make sure you yum upgrade and reboot ... there may be a new kernel required to make this work | 06:01 |
Sam-I-Am | then check this link out | 06:01 |
Sam-I-Am | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1034476 | 06:02 |
kallisti5 | ok. doing so now | 06:02 |
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kallisti5 | before i reboot.. | 06:02 |
kallisti5 | 2014-01-09 01:02:26.931 17167 TRACE neutron.agent.dhcp_agent Command: ['sudo', 'neutron-rootwrap', '/etc/neutron/rootwrap.conf', 'ip', 'link', 'set', 'tape7578960-10', 'address', 'fa:16:3e:3d:de:f2'] | 06:02 |
kallisti5 | thats the command triggering the fault | 06:02 |
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Sam-I-Am | yeah | 06:03 |
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kallisti5 | Sam-I-Am: I did the install over ssh in a screen | 06:03 |
kallisti5 | and never lost the network connection | 06:03 |
kallisti5 | that raised a few red flags as adding the interface to the bridge should of dropped me | 06:04 |
Sam-I-Am | it doesnt do it by default... probably because it breaks things | 06:04 |
Sam-I-Am | and in some cases the stock kernel doesnt support network namespaces | 06:04 |
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Sam-I-Am | i think the centos 6.5 kernel does now | 06:04 |
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Sam-I-Am | rdo started defaulting to neutron at some point and didnt quite update the docs to go with it :/ | 06:05 |
kallisti5 | *crap* | 06:06 |
kallisti5 | shouldn't of done a ovs-vsctl add-port br-ex eth0 | 06:06 |
kallisti5 | before adjusting the network scripts :-\ | 06:06 |
Sam-I-Am | whoops | 06:06 |
kallisti5 | machine is remote | 06:06 |
kallisti5 | with no ilo in a datacenter in another state | 06:06 |
Sam-I-Am | got an ip console? | 06:06 |
kallisti5 | lol.. sigh | 06:06 |
kallisti5 | nope | 06:07 |
Sam-I-Am | awesome | 06:07 |
kallisti5 | and ovs will remember that even if I reboot | 06:07 |
Sam-I-Am | eh... maybe | 06:07 |
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Sam-I-Am | theres something weird on redhat about how it starts ovs | 06:07 |
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Sam-I-Am | i think it forgets unless you have that stuff in network-scripts | 06:08 |
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kallisti5 | Sam-I-Am: thanks, you gave me a good direction to take | 06:09 |
kallisti5 | rdo definitely seems a lot more stable vs 6 ~ 8 months ago | 06:09 |
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Sam-I-Am | its pretty good for a proof-of-concept that Just Works | 06:10 |
Sam-I-Am | minus this minor config stuff : | 06:10 |
Sam-I-Am | :/ | 06:10 |
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Sam-I-Am | they have a page explaining it somewhere on there | 06:10 |
kallisti5 | Sam-I-Am: I tried to install openstack my hand back in the day | 06:10 |
kallisti5 | lets just say keystone killed me | 06:10 |
Sam-I-Am | but i think the main docs should mention it | 06:10 |
Sam-I-Am | the general install docs are much better now | 06:10 |
Sam-I-Am | you can pretty much do an install with neutron and it Just Works | 06:11 |
Sam-I-Am | there's some assumptions about tenant creation and where to create networks, but the config works | 06:11 |
kallisti5 | yeah.. seems networking is where most of my pain points are lately | 06:11 |
kallisti5 | not that i'm bad at networking, I just can't see inside of openstack enough to configure things like it wants :-) | 06:12 |
kallisti5 | (well, without looking at code) | 06:12 |
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Sam-I-Am | its not bad now. using 3 nodes with neutron splits stuff up enough that troubleshooting isnt bad. | 06:12 |
kallisti5 | hm... doesn't look good. I can PXE boot the machine remotely, i'll just boot to a rescue image and chroot into it | 06:13 |
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Sam-I-Am | at least you can do something | 06:14 |
Sam-I-Am | i usually build my concept stuff as VMs | 06:14 |
Sam-I-Am | so i can always get a console | 06:14 |
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troya | hi, is NTP can pointed to eth0 which i've set as interface for provide connectivity for OpenStack management ? | 06:16 |
Sam-I-Am | ntp just needs to point to an ntp server that each node can get to | 06:16 |
troya | i'm just install openstack on single server | 06:17 |
kallisti5 | troya: don't worry about it then | 06:17 |
troya | oh.. oke :) | 06:17 |
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troya | but, i should configure it ? or i can leave it ? | 06:19 |
kallisti5 | leave it | 06:20 |
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kallisti5 | ntp has nothing to do with openstack.. it just is used to make sure the time stays the same across all nodes | 06:21 |
troya | oke ;) | 06:21 |
troya | thanks kalisti5 | 06:21 |
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Sam-I-Am | time to hit the bed here | 06:26 |
Sam-I-Am | night | 06:26 |
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troya | i read blog that when i configure neutron, i should change core_plugin = neutron.plugins.ml2.plugin.Ml2Plugin instead of default. default is neutron.plugins.openvswitch.ovs_neutron_plugin.OVSNeutronPluginV2 | 06:39 |
troya | what the different of both ? | 06:39 |
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iscsi | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/ML2 | 06:42 |
iscsi | http://openvswitch.org/openstack/documentation/ | 06:42 |
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troya | ok,iscsi.. thanks for link | 06:50 |
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iscsi | Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. Laozi | 06:55 |
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troya | iscsi, how about vSwitch bridges ? | 07:07 |
troya | i just have 2 network interface | 07:07 |
troya | eth0 for connectivity between system and openstack management | 07:08 |
troya | than eth1 for communicate with external, like internet, etc | 07:08 |
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troya | i try to check neutron agent-list, but i just get http://pastebin.com/LKwJRTLh | 07:15 |
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troya | anyone have experience with neutron ? | 07:21 |
troya | i have problem with it | 07:21 |
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sgran | troya: that looks like you have a working dhcp agent | 07:42 |
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sgran | what are you expecting? | 07:42 |
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troya | sgran: i just get on running when execute neutron agent-list | 07:45 |
troya | http://pastebin.com/4zvvphw8 | 07:45 |
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troya | i think should be many agent running | 07:46 |
troya | like Open vSwitch agent,L3 agent | 07:46 |
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troya | sgran. any clue for that case ? | 07:47 |
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sgran | are they running? What do their logs say? | 07:49 |
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troya | L3 agent | 07:50 |
troya | and dhcp agent | 07:50 |
troya | both of them running | 07:50 |
troya | what agent which should running beside them ? | 07:50 |
sgran | if you run the other agents with debug enabled, you should see errors connectin to MQ | 07:51 |
troya | sgran. actually agent which should running is Open vSwitch agent,dhcp agent and l3 agent | 07:51 |
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troya | sgran, look at this >http://paste.openstack.org/show/60851/ | 07:54 |
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troya | there is log of openvswitch-agent.log which i don't know what is tht | 07:55 |
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sgran | it says you don't have a br-int | 07:57 |
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troya | how i can get it ? | 07:58 |
troya | actually i just have 2 ethernet | 07:58 |
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sgran | but your l3-agent is now running | 08:00 |
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sgran | http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/demo_routers_with_private_networks_installions.html | 08:01 |
troya | this is my ifconfig and network/itnerface | 08:01 |
troya | http://paste.openstack.org/show/60853/ | 08:01 |
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sgran | are you following those steps? You've missed the ovs-vsctl commands, it seems | 08:02 |
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troya | Open vSwitch agent not running | 08:03 |
sgran | correct | 08:03 |
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troya | sgran: this command >> http://paste.openstack.org/show/60854/ | 08:08 |
troya | ? | 08:08 |
troya | actually how many bridge which i should create ? | 08:08 |
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sgran | you should follow the guide I linked to. THat looks correct to me | 08:09 |
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troya | sgran: okay, let me try this :D | 08:10 |
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troya | sgran.could you pastebin your > neutron agent-list | 08:19 |
troya | ? | 08:19 |
troya | how many agent which have run ? | 08:19 |
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sgran | I'm on the train on the way to work, so no | 08:20 |
troya | :D | 08:20 |
troya | oh..oke | 08:20 |
sgran | look at your logs. They'll tell you what the problem is | 08:20 |
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Tony_Bergh | trying to follow the installation guide for Ubuntu (still). There are a number of things that confuses me regarding nova-network. For example how to configure the interfaces. Right now I have both the internal and the external interfaces statically configured on the controller. How should I configure the external interface on compute nodes? | 08:24 |
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Tony_Bergh | The installation guide says "Do not configure eth1 with a static IP address. The networking component of OpenStack assigns and configures an IP address." but the cloude admin guide says "OpenStack does not configure any physical network interfaces.". | 08:27 |
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sgran | Tony_Bergh: that means that openstack won't connect eth0 to your local network | 08:33 |
sgran | it will attach a bridge to eth1 | 08:33 |
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Tony_Bergh | sgran: aha. So I should leave eth1 unconfigured? | 08:40 |
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sgran | I would have thought so | 08:48 |
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sgran | but I don't know nova-netowkr that well, I'm using neutron | 08:48 |
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Tony_Bergh | ok, thx. I skipped neutron for now since I can't even get nova-network working properly yet. ;) | 08:49 |
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Tony_Bergh | the next problem I'm facing is that openstack doesn't seem to create the bridge for me. Maybe that has to to with my eth1 config.. | 08:51 |
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anand_ | mrunge, when I try to launch an instance, it stuck in scheduling state | 08:55 |
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sgran | Tony_Bergh: have a look at the nova logs | 08:57 |
sgran | one of them will complain loudly about the problem if you have debug and verbose enabled | 08:57 |
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mrunge | anand_, restart your qpidd | 08:59 |
mrunge | anand_, as noted in the bug report | 08:59 |
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Tony_Bergh | sgran: can't find anything in the logs. How do I enable debug and verbose? | 09:10 |
Tony_Bergh | sgran: you mean the nova logs on the compute node, right? | 09:11 |
sgran | I mean wherever you are having the problem :) | 09:11 |
sgran | add verbose=True and debug=True to nova.conf | 09:11 |
sgran | then restart all the nova-* processes | 09:11 |
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Tony_Bergh | sgran: thanks :) will try | 09:12 |
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anand_ | mrunge, I got it up after following exactly on the link and after restarting the servers. Thank you so much | 09:15 |
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mrunge | anand_, you're welcome. glad you could fix it | 09:15 |
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troya | hi all, anyone have experience wiht this message >> "Connection to neutron failed: Maximum attempts reached" | 09:17 |
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troya | that message appear when i try to execute "neutron agent-list" | 09:17 |
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troya | hi mrunge | 09:20 |
mrunge | troya, did you try to switch it off and on again? | 09:21 |
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troya | didnt' but i have kill all neutron process | 09:22 |
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troya | then start them again | 09:22 |
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MaximB | can I install openstack on a VM? how would it work from there? | 09:25 |
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troya | mrunge: actually how many agent which should running ? i have dhcp-agent and L3agent | 09:25 |
mrunge | troya, there are some init scripts, quite handy | 09:26 |
mrunge | something live service neutron-server restart | 09:26 |
troya | mrunge, yah..i use them too. | 09:27 |
mrunge | MaximB, yes, that is possible, if your VM supports nested virtualization | 09:27 |
troya | just confirm, actually how many agent should be running | 09:27 |
mrunge | troya, I don't know | 09:27 |
troya | oh.. | 09:27 |
troya | ok..no worry | 09:27 |
troya | :) | 09:27 |
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MaximB | mrunge: I'm using esxi 5 ,also does it mean I'll need to install another esx5 on a vm? | 09:31 |
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mrunge | MaximB, I've newer used such a thing, I can't answer that | 09:31 |
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anand_ | can't able to ping host from my cirros instance. I can ping cirros from host if I stop Iptables. what can be the reason | 09:33 |
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MaximB | so how do you install openstack on esxi? won't you need to create a vm for ubuntu to install openstack on? | 09:36 |
MaximB | or it can be any machine not in the vmware? | 09:36 |
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Tony_Bergh | the bridge (br100) on my compute node is not created when I restart the nova-* services and I can't find anything wrong in the logs. :( Can I manually create the bridge and attach it to eth1? Should the bridge be configured via dhcp then? | 09:39 |
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Tony_Bergh | after reading further it seems like the bridge should not be created until when the first VM is started on the compute node. | 10:23 |
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jamieh | is it advised to set up glance on the controller server or a separate one? | 11:45 |
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MaximB | the wiki says http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/ ubuntu 12.04, would it work for a new version like 13.04 or 13.10? | 11:50 |
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koolhead17 | jamieh: there is no suggestion as such it all depends on ur need :) | 11:56 |
koolhead17 | MaximB: but my advice will be to use 12.04 with cloud repo | 11:57 |
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MaximB | koolhead17: why didn't they update the guide to more current version | 11:59 |
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koolhead17 | MaximB: because Ubuntu suggests production deployment with LTS instead 6 months rolling release distros | 12:00 |
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koolhead17 | ekarlso: how is your schedule like later in day? | 12:01 |
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ekarlso | koolhead17: dunno yet | 12:06 |
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koolhead17 | ekarlso: lets do it today :) | 12:09 |
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MaximB | koolhead17: about this guide: http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/basics-networking.html ,do I need to create 2 machines? | 12:12 |
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MaximB | koolhead17: how many machines I need for openstack? do I really need 2 or can I install everything on one and see how it works? | 12:51 |
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peetaur | MaximB: probably 1 but not sure on what changes you need. Why not just make 2 vms to test it? | 13:01 |
peetaur | probably you shouldn't install conductor (since it says not ton install it on a compute node), but then you need to configure it differently than the guide | 13:02 |
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MaximB | peetaur: what specs I need for each vm? | 13:05 |
peetaur | with 1-2 vms running on the compute, my controller vm uses up to about 1GB, and my compute uses 700-1.5GB I think | 13:07 |
peetaur | ram | 13:07 |
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peetaur | my vms seem to work fine without any vt-x cpu flags | 13:07 |
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peetaur | aka. nested virtualization ... not using that | 13:08 |
MaximB | peetaur: wow, but I heard 8gb is the recommanded | 13:08 |
peetaur | well depends on what you are doing | 13:08 |
MaximB | testing ;) | 13:08 |
peetaur | I'm just installing things and exploring the commands | 13:08 |
MaximB | what about cores and harddisk? | 13:08 |
peetaur | I originally gave my controller 512 MB, and it started swapping and going horribly slow, so I upped it to 1GB | 13:08 |
MaximB | ram? | 13:09 |
peetaur | cores depends on how much speed you need... I didn't pay attention to what I gave it | 13:09 |
peetaur | and for disk, depends on how big your test vms are | 13:09 |
MaximB | which one would use more hd ? | 13:09 |
peetaur | and for the guide, I recommend 3 hard disks, root, cinder, and swift all get one in the guide | 13:09 |
peetaur | on controller that is | 13:09 |
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MaximB | mmm....I'm not sure I can give x hard disk in vmware... I can assign space, but not hard disks | 13:10 |
peetaur | I gave my test controller 4 GB root, 4GB cinder, and 8GB swift (not sure why more for swift) | 13:10 |
MaximB | maybe you mean partitions? | 13:10 |
peetaur | in vmware player or what? | 13:10 |
MaximB | esx | 13:10 |
peetaur | I think you can add more disks ... just click add, and when done, click add again | 13:10 |
peetaur | oh in ESX for sure you can have more disks | 13:11 |
MaximB | but why not just give partitions? | 13:11 |
peetaur | you can give partitions too | 13:11 |
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MaximB | yeah but what is the benefits of hd vs partitions on vm? | 13:11 |
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peetaur | almost nothing | 13:11 |
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peetaur | just logical separation... like if you wanted to move your disk to another vm, you wouldn't want to move the root with it also, right? | 13:12 |
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MaximB | peetaur: and how many nics you gave each vm? 2? why not just 1? | 13:13 |
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peetaur | I gave them 2 but did my network differently... one is my LAN, and one is for the vms so the DHCP doesn't steal IPs from my LAN and have conflicts | 13:14 |
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peetaur | so I have public to vm traffic and internal cluster traffic together, whereas the howto wants those separate I think | 13:14 |
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MaximB | peetaur: how much hd space you gave to compute? | 13:19 |
MaximB | and what partitons/hard disks | 13:19 |
peetaur | already said 4, 4, 8 | 13:19 |
peetaur | er no I didnt | 13:19 |
peetaur | but I think it was 4GB | 13:19 |
MaximB | peetaur: I thought those were for controller | 13:19 |
MaximB | 4 4 8 | 13:20 |
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peetaur | and my node is 81% full | 13:20 |
peetaur | so 4GB seemed about right | 13:20 |
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MaximB | peetaur: one partition? /root ?\ | 13:21 |
peetaur | I just let the regular distro installer do whatever it wanted | 13:21 |
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peetaur | so in my case with Ubuntu 12.04, it seems to be a monolithic one partition for both root and boot, and another for swap | 13:22 |
MaximB | how much for swap? | 13:22 |
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peetaur | 512 MB, but that's what the distro installer chose | 13:23 |
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MaximB | and you gave it 2gb ram? | 13:23 |
peetaur | and fyi my controller today is using lots of swap... maybe I should have made RAM 1.5 GB | 13:23 |
peetaur | I gave it 1 GB, but I think I'll raise it to 1.5 | 13:23 |
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MaximB | you tight on space? ;) | 13:24 |
peetaur | my desktop only has 16 GB ...and using almost all already | 13:24 |
MaximB | in my case I don't care giving it 8gb ram and 100gb space ... on esx ;) | 13:24 |
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MaximB | do you really need 2 nics for each? can't they live/connect each other trough 1? | 13:25 |
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peetaur | yes and in my case they do, except to connect to my desktop | 13:26 |
peetaur | or the internet | 13:26 |
peetaur | I did my networking differently... like one virtual LAN on a vm bridge without a slave ethX, just to separate them so they can't clash with my LAN IPs | 13:26 |
peetaur | in the guide they create something like a private cluster only network, and a network for the vms and I guess the management | 13:27 |
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peetaur | in my setup, I didn't want vms on my normal network, because then there'd be a split-brain DHCP problem, with duplicate IPs, so I simply moved vms to the internal cluster-only network | 13:28 |
RabidCicada | Would anyone be nice enough to point me to a monolithic disk image that will boot in Openstack/Xenserver/Xen setup? Having problems getting my own hand crafted one (following the openstack image_guide.pdf) to boot and would like to perform a differential analysis. I'm also working on just constructing the image in Xenserver then pulling it out and pushing it back in through the horizon | 13:28 |
RabidCicada | dashboard. | 13:28 |
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MaximB | I got about 100 real ips I can assign | 13:28 |
peetaur | RabidCicada: I know notghing of this, but did you try the Cirros one from the guide? | 13:29 |
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peetaur | MaximB: I have 100s also, but having 2 uncoordinated authorities on which are in use or assigned where is a problem, so I separated it (alternatively you can maybe configure it to have a specific range... but I didn't see that in the guide, and prboably nova-networking doesn't have it and you need the more complicated networking) | 13:30 |
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RabidCicada | peetaur, Cirros works...but it's kind of a cop-out when it comes to an example you can learn from. It doesn't have a "typical" linux layout and configuration...so I don't think I can learn anything about it. It does boot in my setup...but I couldn't glean any useful information from the image as it is setup much different than say ubuntu | 13:32 |
RabidCicada | unless I'm missing something :) | 13:32 |
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peetaur | I didn't know which package manager to use in cirros to install basic things ... so if that's what you mean, I see the problem ;) | 13:33 |
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peetaur | at some point I'll play with images ;) and then I can hope to be helpful | 13:33 |
peetaur | (but not planning on trying it on xen) | 13:33 |
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RabidCicada | My problem is specifically in how I'm constructing a hand-rolled VM image. It's having problems booting. And with one previous image I made that did boot...it had problems with the console/vnc | 13:34 |
RabidCicada | ahh...yeah....I wanted to use xen | 13:34 |
RabidCicada | KVM works without a problem :( | 13:34 |
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peetaur | what advantage is there to using xen inside openstack? | 13:34 |
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peetaur | xen vs kvm in general has advantages on both sides apparently ... but in openstack, all the favorite xen tools or whatever seem to be unused, right? | 13:35 |
RabidCicada | So...I haven't 100% verified this...but my idea is to run game servers in the vm's...and it is my belief that xen's paravirtualized network drivers would be more performant than kvm | 13:35 |
peetaur | and since vfio, I think xen has lost its pci passthrough advantage completely | 13:35 |
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peetaur | (vfio-pci is kernel 3.9 or so, and vfio-pci-vga 3.10 or so) | 13:36 |
RabidCicada | Also....I see anecdotal evidence that Xen is better for scaling to a larger cloud due to rackspace and amazon et all using xen on the backend | 13:36 |
peetaur | are they linux servers? | 13:36 |
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RabidCicada | yes...linux | 13:36 |
RabidCicada | am I incorrect about what I see? | 13:37 |
peetaur | I had a uniquely bad experience with xen paravirtual network ... | 13:37 |
RabidCicada | I also had used xen itself (no cloud orchestrator) previously | 13:37 |
RabidCicada | so I was partial to it | 13:37 |
RabidCicada | back in the days of xm and having to reboot the host after install to get the bridge working >.< | 13:37 |
viraptor | hi all, is there some way to set the config value to None, even if the default has a value? None itself seems to be treated as a string "None" | 13:37 |
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larsks | viraptor: What are you trying to do? | 13:37 |
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peetaur | well I think kvm virtio seems flawless on Linux ... and I only found one case where ESXi network was faster, which was a VM router and only seemed slower with NFS | 13:37 |
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RabidCicada | peetaur, Well that is good...because I'm geting tired of trying to get xenserver working right now...and was going to flip to an Openstack/KVM cloud on my main server then work on the xen one on my secondary | 13:38 |
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peetaur | but with xen I didn't see it going very fast in my testing, but I had unique problems where I was testing it. ... unique because nobody had the same problem, so I don't think you can take my experience and apply it to yours. (network would either crash the kernel, or would just not go any faster than non-pv) | 13:39 |
RabidCicada | It's bottlenecking my plans for other development..so it's good to hear that kvm isn't bad | 13:39 |
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viraptor | larsks: stack a couple of --config-file options on one service - later files override the values without problems (I can change set "abc" in the first one and "def" in the second one - nova sees "def"), but I can't find a way to unset a value | 13:39 |
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larsks | viraptor: Ah. Can you set it to an empty value? (someconfigval=) | 13:40 |
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RabidCicada | peetaur, and anyone else, I was under the impression that pvops short circuited a lot of the internal network stack on the vm guest so it would behave faster...whereas kvm is full virtualization and intercepted later int he chain...am incorrect about my understanding? | 13:40 |
viraptor | larsks: it's treated as an empty string unfortuantely :( | 13:41 |
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larsks | viraptor: Bummer. | 13:41 |
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peetaur | RabidCicada: not sure on specific low level, but virtio is like pv... so while a KVM is still fully virtualized (eg. the hardware clock is still virtual, unlike a full xen pv which has some virtual clock), its drivers can be efficient and virtual | 13:42 |
viraptor | larsks: oh well, I can rewrite the config generation... just wanted to make it organised a bit better | 13:42 |
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RabidCicada | ahhh...very good. | 13:42 |
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peetaur | RabidCicada: and if you want it to be without the hardware virt, you can probably use LXC (I say probably, because it's new and I dont' know if it's production ready; it basically replaces OpenVZ) | 13:43 |
larsks | viraptor: Might be worth asking on ask.openstack.org or on the mailing list (or even a feature request in the bug tracker). | 13:43 |
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Sam-I-Am | morning | 13:52 |
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larsks | hallo. | 13:57 |
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MaximB | peetaur: on this guide: http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/basics-networking.html aren't both nics are internal? | 14:07 |
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Sam-I-Am | MaximB: well, sort of. i think external just describes that you should be able to get to that network from the outside world | 14:09 |
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Sam-I-Am | that part of the docs needs a little love | 14:10 |
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earthfire87 | HI all | 14:12 |
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earthfire87 | I'm really confused about the difference between a controller node and compute node | 14:13 |
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Sam-I-Am | the controller node manages the stack and the compute node runs the tenant VMs | 14:14 |
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earthfire87 | From the docs a compute node is a cloud computing fabric controller which has me thinking that compute is a controller | 14:14 |
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Sam-I-Am | i'm not making that connection | 14:15 |
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earthfire87 | Sam-I-Am: I guess from reading about compute and it has controller in the description have me thinking that way | 14:16 |
Sam-I-Am | whats the link? | 14:16 |
earthfire87 | Sam-I-Am: http://docs.openstack.org/havana/config-reference/content/ch_configuring-openstack-compute.html | 14:17 |
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Sam-I-Am | oh, that might be describing the "Compute" service rather than the compute node | 14:19 |
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Sam-I-Am | the compute service has two functions... it runs on the controller for management, and on the compute node to launch VMs | 14:19 |
Sam-I-Am | i agree that wording can be rather confusing | 14:19 |
earthfire87 | Sam-I-Am: Ok now I understand controller managese all the services | 14:20 |
earthfire87 | Sam-I-Am: manages | 14:20 |
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earthfire87 | Sam-I-Am: Thanks for clearing that up for me. I was definitely stumped there | 14:22 |
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Sam-I-Am | np | 14:23 |
peetaur | Which log file should I read for more detail if I get a message like this? | 14:23 |
peetaur | swift -V 2.0 -A $OS_AUTH_URL -U ${OS_TENANT_NAME}:${OS_USERNAME} -K $OS_PASSWORD stat | 14:23 |
peetaur | Endpoint for object-store not found - have you specified a region? | 14:23 |
earthfire87 | Sam-I-Am: I also would like to know if you know of a all-in-one package for proof of concept. I followed to guides on openstack and had a bunch of dependencies not being met | 14:23 |
earthfire87 | Sam-I-Am: You know of any tutorials that work with redhat | 14:24 |
Sam-I-Am | redhat rdo is probably the best all-in-one PoC | 14:24 |
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earthfire87 | Sam-I-Am: You have a link | 14:24 |
Sam-I-Am | there's a few things you'll need to fix after its installed, but they're documented | 14:24 |
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Sam-I-Am | openstack.redhat.com/Quickstart | 14:25 |
earthfire87 | Sam-I-Am: Ok go it thanks I'll try it on a virtual machine first before I put it one a server | 14:25 |
jamieh | if i have a controller server and 1 compute node, which server should i run `nova network-create vmnet` on? | 14:26 |
Sam-I-Am | jamieh: controller | 14:26 |
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Sam-I-Am | pretty much all commands are done on the controller | 14:26 |
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jamieh | i'm getting this when run on controller: ERROR: The server has either erred or is incapable of performing the requested operation. (HTTP 500) (Request-ID: req-e5abb388-0dab-4023-b92b-e3fa235df34f) | 14:27 |
jamieh | docs said to install nova-network, etc. on compute node | 14:27 |
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Sam-I-Am | are you using a 'rc' file with the credentials? | 14:28 |
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jamieh | i have ~/keystonerc, which contains username, pw, tenant name and auth url | 14:29 |
jamieh | if you look at step 1 on http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/nova-network.html, does it really mean install nova-network on controller? | 14:29 |
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Sam-I-Am | yeah, because the controller plays a role in managing nova networks | 14:30 |
Sam-I-Am | just like the controller also runs nova, but doesnt run VMs | 14:30 |
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earthfire87 | Sam-I-Am: when I use packstack --allinone I get a dependencies error | 14:36 |
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Sam-I-Am | earthfire87: which distro/version? | 14:38 |
larsks | earthfire87: Which dependency error? Also, on what platform? I ask because tues and wed were test days on #rdo, so we flushed out a bunch of bugs. | 14:38 |
larsks | ...in packstack... | 14:38 |
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earthfire87 | Sam-I-Am: I'm running redhat 6.5 | 14:39 |
earthfire87 | Sam-I-Am: Requires rubygems | 14:40 |
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larsks | earthfire87: Is this packstack from RDO? I believe you need the EPEL repository enabled for RHEL. | 14:41 |
larsks | earthfire87: http://openstack.redhat.com/Repositories | 14:41 |
earthfire87 | Sam-I-Am: yes this is packstack from rdo | 14:41 |
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koolhead17 | hi all | 15:05 |
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larsks | howdy. | 15:08 |
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Sam-I-Am | howdy | 15:08 |
jamieh | you launch an instance from a compute node, right? or the controller? | 15:09 |
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Sam-I-Am | controller, but it runs on the compute node | 15:09 |
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jamieh | okay, how do you specify the hostname/ip of the compute node when executing `nova boot` | 15:10 |
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larsks | jamieh: Generally, you don't. The scheduler selects an available host for you and boots the instance on it. | 15:10 |
jamieh | how does the scheduler know about the compute node? | 15:11 |
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Sam-I-Am | the compute node registers with it | 15:11 |
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Sam-I-Am | do a nova service-list | 15:11 |
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Sam-I-Am | or nova hypervisor-list | 15:12 |
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jamieh | i only see controller services when i do `nova service-list` (cert, consoleauth, scheduler, conductor, network) | 15:13 |
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Sam-I-Am | no nova-compute ? | 15:15 |
jamieh | nope | 15:15 |
Sam-I-Am | if so, your compute node isnt configured right, or not registering | 15:15 |
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Jerrycai | Have you configured any compute driver on /etc/nova/nova.conf? | 15:15 |
Sam-I-Am | check the logs on it | 15:15 |
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Jerrycai | Um, I have a question, does anyone know about tempest cases? Why metadata cannot be changed after create server or volume? | 15:16 |
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jamieh | the nova.conf on the compute node? what do i need to do to register this node as nova-compute? | 15:17 |
Jerrycai | I mean there is a specifed case for checking metadata, if it's not equal with the one before operation, cases fail. But some driver will change it | 15:17 |
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Jerrycai | @jamieh you may check openstack administrator guide first, it covers the most parts there. | 15:19 |
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jamieh | the compute node is supposed to start the nova-compute service, right? i've followed all the steps, but it's not appearing in nova service-list. how does the controller pickup the service of another node? | 15:33 |
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larsks | jamieh: nova.conf on your compute node needs to have the correct settings to connect to the database and the amqp server. Also, your controller needs the appropriate firewall rules open to allow these things to connect. | 15:34 |
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jamieh | is qpid on port 5672? | 15:36 |
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larsks | yes | 15:37 |
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jamieh | boom, that fixed it | 15:37 |
jamieh | controller needed port 5672 open | 15:37 |
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juneyi_ | .. | 15:39 |
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Sam-I-Am | jamieh: if you have a firewall on the controller, i'd consider disabling it for testing | 15:45 |
Sam-I-Am | just because it can get in the way | 15:45 |
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jamieh | yeah. so many introductory docs leave out iptables configuration... | 15:48 |
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larsks | But careful about clearing out rules that were created by neutron in order to support networking. | 15:49 |
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jamieh | so after creating a network using nova-networks, is it completely virtual? i'm doing all this on cloud nodes which have 1 ip address allocated to them. i don't know how i'd access new instances on the compute node if it only has 1 public ip | 15:53 |
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woodruff | Hello, has anyone used Mininet and can tell me if it can simulate Cisco Switches ? (does it support LLDP for topology discovery and etc..) | 16:09 |
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decede | Does anyone know if there will be OpenStack talks at fosdem this year? | 16:16 |
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Sam-I-Am | larsks: usually i just do a chkconfig iptables off and chkconfig ip6tables off ... then let nova do its own thing | 16:16 |
Sam-I-Am | larsks: this issue was addressed in a recent patch to the install docs | 16:17 |
viraptor | so I've got a node that has conductor.use_local=false, but it still connects to the database - is there any additional switch I need to update? | 16:17 |
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larsks | Sam-I-Am: Cool. | 16:17 |
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mili_ | Hi | 16:28 |
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mili_ | I cannot see networking in dashboad | 16:28 |
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mili_ | the neutron is working fine | 16:28 |
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mili_ | I can create networks... | 16:28 |
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mili_ | but no netwroking in dashboadrd | 16:28 |
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mili_ | help is really apritiated | 16:30 |
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gigawhat | need some help troubleshooting nova-scheduler on our controller. when i run nova service-list it shows nova-scheduler and nova compute as down, but the the nova-scheduler and compute process are running. | 16:53 |
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gigawhat | restarted all of the nova services thinking that would help, but after restarting services, samething | 16:54 |
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viraptor | gigawhat: have you checked the logs? service list :-)/XXX depends on the last update timestamp in the database - so either the process cannot update its entry, or it's not running in general - the log should tell you exactly what's going on | 17:17 |
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earthfire87 | I'm having a problem installing rdo packstack on redhat | 17:26 |
earthfire87 | I'm recieving this error | 17:26 |
illsci_ | hey whats up... I'm trying to figure out why the nodes I launch into my openstack setup take a long time to start responding on port 22/ssh. I can't actually ever get in which I would like to fix too but I'm curious what logs I can look at or just what I can do to troubleshoot this? | 17:27 |
illsci_ | I only have a controller node and two compute nodes | 17:27 |
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earthfire87 | Error: Error appeared during Puppet run: 192.168.32.129_ceilometer.pp | 17:27 |
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viraptor | illsci_: if you look at the instance's console log it will tell you how long it took to get the metadata / ip / other things. Look for lines that say something like "Took (xxx)s to (do something)" | 17:28 |
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illsci_ | ok... let me check | 17:28 |
viraptor | illsci_: it may give you an idea what's taking most time | 17:28 |
earthfire87 | Error: Package: 1:python-flask-0.9-5.el6.noarch(epel) | 17:29 |
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sepski | hello... Is openstack a viable alternative to vmware vcenter vshphere for a company that does mostly regular virtualization, and not cloud yet (no elastic, no on demand, and no metering) or is it too much in development ? should one rather look at things like proxmox. | 17:31 |
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earthfire87 | Sam-I-Am are you still on | 17:35 |
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daveops | sepski: if you treat openstack as free vmware, you're gonna have a bad time | 17:50 |
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Sam-I-Am | earthfire87: yeah | 17:52 |
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gigawhat | viraptor: thanks for the info. i looked through the logs and didnt see anything. i'll keep looking. | 17:54 |
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illsci_ | hmm it looks like its the metadata service... | 18:09 |
illsci_ | 2014-01-09 16:50:56,555 - url_helper.py[WARNING]: Calling 'http://169.254.169.254/2009-04-04/meta-data/instance-id' failed [0/120s]: request error [[Errno 113] No route to host] | 18:09 |
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earthfire87 | Hi all | 18:09 |
illsci_ | where can I look on the controller or compute node to see what's going on with that | 18:09 |
earthfire87 | Has any one every tried to install rdo and got an error saying it requires python-sphinx | 18:10 |
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Sam-I-Am | illsci_: what networking? | 18:11 |
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illsci_ | nuetron | 18:13 |
illsci_ | I think | 18:13 |
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earthfire87 | Sam-I-Am Have you ever tried to install rdo and got an error saying it requires python-sphinx | 18:15 |
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Sam-I-Am | earthfire87: no... the dependencies usually resolved themselves | 18:18 |
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Sam-I-Am | illsci_: check out the metadata log on the network node. my guess is its either configured wrong or for some reason its not adding a route to the metadata ip | 18:19 |
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Sam-I-Am | gotta run for a bit | 18:20 |
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miguitas | Hi, I have one question, with cisco nexus plugin do I have HA in networking (having cisco switches in HA)? | 18:30 |
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albionandrew | What is the easiest way to remove a node from the Nova database? The node has gone but still shows in the service list. | 18:35 |
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illsci_ | hmm yeah it looks like the metadata api service won't start | 18:55 |
illsci_ | 2013-12-19 21:28:15.098 45032 CRITICAL nova [-] [Errno 98] Address already in use | 18:55 |
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JoeJulian | I'm getting this error in havana while trying to set up a vpn: Timeout while waiting on RPC response - topic: "ipsec_driver", RPC method: "get_vpn_services_on_host" info: "<unknown>" | 19:48 |
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Gamekiller77 | Any Heat peeps in the house | 20:39 |
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larsks | Depends on what you need. | 20:40 |
Gamekiller77 | hey larsks simple it looks like i have to have EC2 api on my keystone for heat to work | 20:41 |
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Gamekiller77 | do you know if this is true | 20:41 |
Gamekiller77 | also for init cloud too | 20:41 |
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larsks | I am successfully using heat without using the EC2 API...so no, not required. I'm using heat with native HOT templates (rather than the AWS-compatible cloudformation templates). | 20:44 |
Gamekiller77 | hmmm | 20:44 |
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Gamekiller77 | i may need to do that | 20:44 |
Gamekiller77 | need to find a simple HOT template | 20:44 |
Gamekiller77 | something simple to test | 20:44 |
Gamekiller77 | but cloud-init need EC2 or am i wrong there too? | 20:45 |
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larsks | cloud-init doesn't authenticate to anything. It just uses the metadata API available via unauthenticated http requests from the instance. | 20:45 |
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larsks | So cloud-init doesn't need keystone at all. | 20:45 |
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Gamekiller77 | what metadata service do i hit then | 20:51 |
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Gamekiller77 | bit cloudy there | 20:51 |
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larsks | Gamekiller77: I'm not sure I understand your question. The metadata service is started automatically by nova-api. It's typically available at http://169.254.169.254/ via NAT magic set up by either nova-networking or neutron. | 20:54 |
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larsks | cloud-init will use it automatically if it's available. | 20:54 |
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larsks | So from inside an instance you can run "curl http://169.254.169.254/" to hit the top level of the API. | 20:54 |
Gamekiller77 | so i have neutron an a differnt server | 20:54 |
larsks | That's okay. | 20:54 |
Gamekiller77 | it times out | 20:55 |
Gamekiller77 | saying it can not find the server at that IP | 20:55 |
larsks | Do you otherwise have functional networking? | 20:55 |
Gamekiller77 | yup | 20:55 |
Gamekiller77 | in and out | 20:55 |
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Gamekiller77 | floating IP works fine too | 20:55 |
larsks | Does your instance have a route to 169.254.0.0/16? This is sometimes installed to support zeroconf, but causes problems with access to the metadata server. | 20:56 |
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Gamekiller77 | no | 20:56 |
Gamekiller77 | it what ever setup with the GRE on neutron | 20:56 |
larsks | I mean inside your instance...if you log in and run "ip route". | 20:57 |
JoeJulian | What is supposed to be the rpc consumer of an ipsec_driver message? It looks like nothing ever reads it. | 20:57 |
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Gamekiller77 | ooo let me try | 20:58 |
larsks | JoeJulian: Have you tried #openstack-neutron? | 20:59 |
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Gamekiller77 | larsks, no there is not route to that subnet | 21:00 |
JoeJulian | larsks: Nope, thanks. | 21:00 |
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larsks | Gamekiller77: Hmm, weird then, since other stuff is working. | 21:01 |
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Gamekiller77 | yah where would it pull the routing from | 21:02 |
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larsks | The magic that makes that ip work is inside the qrouter namespace on your neutron host. | 21:03 |
Gamekiller77 | hmm ok | 21:04 |
Gamekiller77 | new thing to lookup now | 21:04 |
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larsks | Run "ip netns", and you should see something like qrouter-acc6b46f-d040-490f-8d1f-7d6f9a0df8d9. You can look inside the namespace like this: | 21:04 |
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larsks | ip netns exec qrouter-acc6b46f-d040-490f-8d1f-7d6f9a0df8d9 <command> | 21:04 |
larsks | So for example: | 21:04 |
larsks | ip netns exec qrouter-acc6b46f-d040-490f-8d1f-7d6f9a0df8d9 ip addr | 21:04 |
larsks | (to see the interfaces and addresses) | 21:04 |
larsks | or: | 21:04 |
larsks | ip netns exec qrouter-acc6b46f-d040-490f-8d1f-7d6f9a0df8d9 iptables -t nat -S | 21:04 |
larsks | to see the NAT rules | 21:04 |
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larsks | ...which is where you'll find the NAT rule that takes traffic to 169.254.169.254 and sends it to the appropriate location. | 21:05 |
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mili_ | Hi, When I'm creating a volume it get stuck in creating...... | 21:27 |
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mili_ | please look at this https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/10278/cannot-create-volumes-stuck-in-creation/ for full logs | 21:27 |
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jgriffith | mili_: what do you see after "suod lvs" | 21:29 |
jgriffith | err... sudo | 21:30 |
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mili_ | https://gist.github.com/anonymous/58193cac627c2644724c | 21:31 |
mili_ | I cannot see my cinder volume | 21:31 |
mili_ | it is called cinder-volumes1 | 21:32 |
jgriffith | mili_: so your first problem is that there's no VG | 21:32 |
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jgriffith | mili_: you need to create VG cinder-volumes1 yourself | 21:32 |
jgriffith | mili_: vgcreate | 21:32 |
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mili_ | it is already created | 21:33 |
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mili_ | when i try to create it again i get A volume group called cinder-volumes1 already exists. | 21:33 |
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jgriffith | hmm... your vgs output you just posted doesn't show it? | 21:34 |
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jgriffith | Oh.. that was lvs output | 21:35 |
jgriffith | :) | 21:35 |
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jgriffith | hehe | 21:35 |
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jgriffith | can you mili_ can you try it without specifying a volume-type? | 21:36 |
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mili_ | what do you mean | 21:39 |
jgriffith | Your "cinder create" call appears to have a volume-type associated with it | 21:39 |
jgriffith | 'volume_type_id': u'bf83e88b-02e0-4b58-8e2b-821668afc5b5' | 21:40 |
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mili_ | same thing | 21:41 |
mili_ | stuck in creation | 21:41 |
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jgriffith | mili_: ok, so there's got to be a clue in either the scheduler logs or the volume logs | 21:42 |
jgriffith | mili_: ie the last place the create call was seen and what it was doing | 21:42 |
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mili_ | you are right, it is saying that volume group cinder-volumes1 was not found | 21:44 |
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mili_ | https://gist.github.com/anonymous/2d8263506c7d9787c20f | 21:44 |
jgriffith | mili_: :) | 21:44 |
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jgriffith | mili_: what OS are you running on? | 21:45 |
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mili_ | 12.0.4 ubuntu | 21:45 |
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mili_ | the volume is not inside the machine | 21:45 |
mili_ | it is on a dell san and i mounted it to the linux machine | 21:46 |
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jgriffith | mili_: Oh? You mean the VG is not on the box? | 21:46 |
jgriffith | mili_: but you said "vgs shows it"? | 21:46 |
jgriffith | I'm now confused | 21:46 |
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mili_ | it dose show it | 21:46 |
jgriffith | mili_: hmm... can you paste the output of the command in the trace there? | 21:46 |
jgriffith | mili_: "sudo env LC_ALL=C LANG=C vgs --noheadings --unit=g -o name,size,free,lv_count,uuid --separator : --nosuffix cinder-volumes1" | 21:47 |
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mili_ | https://gist.github.com/anonymous/58193cac627c2644724c | 21:48 |
jgriffith | mili_: any chance your scheduler is running on the wrong node? | 21:48 |
mili_ | the schduler is on the controller node | 21:49 |
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jgriffith | mili_: err.. sorry I meant the "volume-service" | 21:49 |
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mili_ | no it is on the block one device | 21:49 |
jgriffith | mili_: it doesn't look like it is | 21:50 |
jgriffith | mili_: I mean.. if the vgs works when you run it where expected and it doesn't on the other? | 21:50 |
jgriffith | seems odd to me | 21:50 |
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jgriffith | we could add some debug messages in there to try and get more info | 21:50 |
mili_ | please | 21:51 |
mili_ | I really appritiate your help | 21:51 |
jgriffith | like a log.DEBUG(_('HOST IS: %s' % socket.get_hostname)) | 21:51 |
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jgriffith | just "socket.gethostname" I believe | 21:51 |
jgriffith | mili_: do you know how to do that? | 21:52 |
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mili_ | no :( | 21:52 |
jgriffith | mili_: no worries, I can help.. just a sec | 21:52 |
mili_ | thanks | 21:52 |
jgriffith | Looks like you're running source? | 21:52 |
jgriffith | ie, how are you installing? devstack, packages, etc? | 21:52 |
mili_ | yeah | 21:52 |
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mili_ | packages | 21:53 |
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jgriffith | mili_: ok, so here's how this works... | 21:54 |
jgriffith | mili_: that failing call you're seeing... it's issued by the cinder volume-manager | 21:54 |
jgriffith | mili_: it sends a call to the volume-driver to update it's stats info | 21:54 |
jgriffith | mili_: that cmd fails | 21:55 |
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jgriffith | mili_: which lead me to wonder if the volume-service was not running on the correct node | 21:55 |
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jgriffith | mili_: give me a second to look at your cinder.conf file again | 21:55 |
mili_ | sure, thanks | 21:55 |
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jgriffith | mili_: so based on your config you're running everything on a single server? | 21:56 |
mili_ | I have a network node, controller node , 3 compute nodes and one block node | 21:57 |
mili_ | the only thing runnng on the block node should be cinder-volume | 21:57 |
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jgriffith | mili_: hmmm... it really looks like the cinder-volume service isn't running where you think it is | 21:58 |
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jgriffith | mili_: ie like on the controller node | 21:58 |
mili_ | when i restart the service it restarts it just fine | 21:59 |
jgriffith | mili_: you could verify with "cinder service-list" | 21:59 |
jgriffith | mili_: that will show the cinder services and what the node name is that they're running on | 21:59 |
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jgriffith | and what it's state is | 22:00 |
mili_ | https://gist.github.com/anonymous/58193cac627c2644724c | 22:00 |
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mili_ | all looks fine... | 22:00 |
jgriffith | indeed | 22:00 |
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mili_ | I checked almost every other log on the system | 22:02 |
mili_ | but i cant find anything related to this else where | 22:02 |
jgriffith | mili_: the volume log should have something similar | 22:03 |
jgriffith | mili_: since it generated the exception | 22:03 |
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mili_ | Volume group "cinder-volumes1" not found\n' | 22:04 |
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mili_ | this is the main thing there | 22:04 |
mili_ | inder.openstack.common.periodic_task [-] Error during VolumeManager._report_driver_status: Unexpected error while running command. | 22:05 |
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mili_ | sudo cinder-rootwrap /etc/cinder/rootwrap.conf env LC_ALL=C LANG=C vgs --noheadings --unit=g -o name,size,free,lv_count,uuid --separator : --nosuffix cinder-volumes1 | 22:05 |
mili_ | jgriffith | 22:07 |
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jgriffith | mili_: can you set "debug=True" in your cinder.conf file, restart and try again? | 22:08 |
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mili_ | sure, 1 sec | 22:09 |
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mili_ | volume b33d2508-f0b1-4e0a-add0-8bd80a4959b8: skipping export | 22:12 |
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mili_ | i updated the github comment | 22:13 |
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jgriffith | mili_: yeah, that's the init failing on driver startup | 22:14 |
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jgriffith | mili_: since it can't find the vg | 22:14 |
jgriffith | mili_: the log: var/log/cinder/volume.log should have some debug info in it now | 22:14 |
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jgriffith | mili_: ie showing the init and the failure etc | 22:14 |
mili_ | https://gist.github.com/anonymous/58193cac627c2644724c | 22:14 |
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koolhead17 | ekarlso: we missed it today too :P | 22:16 |
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mili_ | i cant figure it out | 22:17 |
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jgriffith | mili_: was there by chance some more info that might have been clipped in that last update to the gist you made? | 22:17 |
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mili_ | i sent it for you | 22:17 |
mili_ | 1 sec | 22:18 |
mili_ | just updated it | 22:18 |
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jgriffith | mili_: ok... I have an idea | 22:23 |
jgriffith | mili_: this is kinda lame, but worth trying to get more info | 22:23 |
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mili_ | go for it | 22:24 |
mili_ | :) | 22:24 |
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jgriffith | mili_: if you can find the lvm.py file, should be like python/site-packages/cinder xxxx | 22:24 |
jgriffith | mili_: you can do a "sudo find / -name lvm.py" | 22:24 |
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jgriffith | mili_: then edit the file, in "def get_volume_stats(self, refresh=False)" add a debug line: | 22:25 |
jgriffith | mili_: LOG.debug(_('This is host: %s' % socket.gethostname())) | 22:25 |
mili_ | on it | 22:25 |
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hesco | building my first openstack and curious to know how large a partition I should give over to the boot installation on a compute node. | 22:27 |
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mili_ | there are two of them | 22:27 |
jgriffith | mili_: yeah, ones a symlink I believe | 22:28 |
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hesco | I'm thinking that the left over disk space might set off as a partition given to a ceph node on the same hardware. As a cost-cutting starter plan, is that absolutely crazy? | 22:28 |
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mili_ | i restarted the service | 22:30 |
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mili_ | and updateed github | 22:30 |
larsks | hesco: really depends on how many images of what size you want to support. Using leftover space isn't crazy, but maybe not as easily managed in the long term. Fine for getting things going. | 22:30 |
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jgriffith | mili_: well this is annoying :) | 22:31 |
mili_ | :) | 22:31 |
hesco | thanks larsks | 22:31 |
jgriffith | mili_: says we're block 1, bu tthe vgs call fails, although you can run it fine manually | 22:31 |
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hesco | so larsk, any advice on how large a partition the compute node's native os needs? | 22:31 |
mili_ | I see .... | 22:32 |
kallisti5 | what does neutron expect in the way of sudo access? Did a fresh rdo install, and it seems like l3-agent is attempting to run sudo | 22:32 |
larsks | hesco: Not huge, especially if you separate out the storage used by things like nova and glance. | 22:32 |
kallisti5 | (and nothing in sudoers mentions neutron, or any neutron groups) | 22:32 |
hesco | 20gb? 100gb? | 22:32 |
larsks | 8-10 GB is fine for the basic os. | 22:32 |
hesco | eventually I will build a logging server, but not immediately | 22:33 |
hesco | thanks, that is helpful. | 22:33 |
larsks | Use the extra space for image hosting. Consider having logs not on your root partition. | 22:33 |
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larsks | nova and glance both need space for images (although glance can use any of several backends) | 22:34 |
kallisti5 | wait... nevermind. | 22:34 |
kallisti5 | just found /etc/sudoers.d/neutron :-) | 22:34 |
kallisti5 | hm.. odd sudo is still giving permission denied for neutron | 22:34 |
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larsks | kallisti5: Is there any chance you upgraded from something running quantum? | 22:34 |
Sam-I-Am | kallisti5: is this on a redhat-like os? | 22:34 |
larsks | Nevermind, you said fresh install. | 22:35 |
hesco | ok, so do I set aside swap now at the partitioning step for the images this thing will host? and can I later divide up that swap and allocate it among the images? | 22:35 |
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hesco | I have a 24gb physical ram, I'm wondering if 48gb of swap would be appropriate. | 22:35 |
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larsks | Not sure what you mean by "swap". Here I'm talking about space used to store the disk images you upload into glance, and the images provisioned when you boot an instance. | 22:35 |
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larsks | Swap space is going to depend on your physical ram and other requirements. | 22:36 |
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larsks | Using 48GB of swap won't hurt, although honestly, if things start swapping you will be unhappy regardless of how much swap space you have. | 22:36 |
larsks | Better to avoid overcommitting memory... | 22:37 |
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hesco | ok, I was told I could overbook ram at 1.5:1 and vcpu's at 4:1 | 22:37 |
kallisti5 | Sam-I-Am: same as yesterday :-) | 22:38 |
kallisti5 | fresh rdo install on CentOS 6.5 | 22:38 |
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kallisti5 | Sam-I-Am: http://pastebin.com/2hkgwwLn | 22:39 |
kallisti5 | same error as yesterday, but now see this as well in l3-agent | 22:39 |
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kallisti5 | looks like a permissions issue... but odd as rootwrap should be sudo'ed ok | 22:40 |
kallisti5 | unless that error may be coming from ovs | 22:40 |
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larsks | hesco: Really depends on your particular workloads. | 22:41 |
kallisti5 | Sam-I-Am: ran this after su - 'ing to neutron.. works fine: sudo neutron-rootwrap /etc/neutron/rootwrap.conf ip netns exec qrouter-76776640-6c0e-4733-910e-a2a8dfddd154 sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward= | 22:42 |
larsks | hesco: From an email I saw earlier today from a large site, "For compute intensive workloads we schedule 1:1, for random webhosting type loads we've run up to 9:1 and still had the physical systems 80% idle" | 22:43 |
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kallisti5 | Sam-I-Am: if neutron is running in some chroot, maybe it is having problems mounting sys? | 22:43 |
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kallisti5 | larsks: no upgrade, fresh | 22:45 |
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larsks | kallisti5: what os are you running on? | 22:45 |
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kallisti5 | larsks: CentOS 6.5 | 22:46 |
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larsks | Do you have selinux enabled? | 22:46 |
kallisti5 | aaah | 22:46 |
kallisti5 | crap | 22:46 |
kallisti5 | yup... just looked at that as well | 22:46 |
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kallisti5 | enforcing :-) | 22:47 |
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larsks | set it to permissive, restart everything, collect the AVC errors from /var/log/audit/audit.log and open a bug against rdo on bugzilla.redhat.com. | 22:47 |
kallisti5 | ah. disabled, rebooting to give everything a chance to work on boot | 22:48 |
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kallisti5 | sorry. I'll change it to permissive and collect the issues for a bug | 22:48 |
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* kallisti5 doesn't care much about selinux | 22:48 | |
hesco | My clients are almost exclusively running web sites and some web services, those are encouraging numbers. Thanks for that. | 22:48 |
hesco | thanks larsks | 22:49 |
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mutex | so I just setup keystone to work with my ldap authentication, and now I cannot login as administrator | 22:50 |
mutex | is there a way to keep the admin account ? | 22:50 |
mutex | Do I need to go hacking in the SQL tables now ? | 22:50 |
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datamatic | nope, no hacking the db needed | 22:56 |
datamatic | brb | 22:56 |
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datamatic | @mutex does your driver use IAF for any assertions? | 23:03 |
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datamatic | u can overload your BaseIdentity's authenticate() method to do a local check first and then do an LDAP authentication | 23:07 |
kallisti5 | Stderr: '/bin/sh: collie: command not found\n' | 23:08 |
kallisti5 | hm.. seems rdo should install sheepdog | 23:08 |
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slowe | kallisti5: I think that's a known error and doesn't actually affect functionality. I saw the same thing building a test environment in my home lab. | 23:09 |
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kallisti5 | aaah | 23:12 |
kallisti5 | found the error... | 23:12 |
kallisti5 | "\'image\' uses a qcow2 feature which is not supported by this qemu version: QCOW version 3\\nCould not open \'/var/lib/nova/instances/_base/01c00b30f6c2f3f53cfe275d006b3cc5793e11e5.part\': Operation not supported\\n" | 23:12 |
mutex | datamatic: I don't think so, and actually the keystone documentation says that I should be able to use SQL for 'assignment' | 23:13 |
kallisti5 | wth. | 23:13 |
mutex | but i don't have an 'assignemnt' stanza in my grizzly keystone config | 23:13 |
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mutex | ah yes, looks like that is havanna only | 23:20 |
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datamatic | hmm I am unsure abt Grizzly/Havanna. But from what I undertand, your roles can be managed in SQL but the users and gruops can be done through LDAP | 23:22 |
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mutex | anyone have experience with nova hooks ? I installed my 'hook' with 'python setup.py install' but I don't see any logs from the hook manager about it being loaded | 23:32 |
mutex | I'm looking for advice on where to start debugging ;-) | 23:32 |
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kenperkins | annegentle_ still online? | 23:41 |
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