Tuesday, 2014-02-25

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sinhhi00:41
sinhi have a question about creating a volume from an image00:41
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sinhbecause it's trying to hit the glance endpoint of the server that's going to have the volume crated on00:42
sinhcreated00:42
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sinhbut there's no glance service on there so port 9292 is never going to answer00:42
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sinhanyone ever ran into this error?00:43
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sputnik13yeah, I've seen that00:55
sputnik13sinh: how are you deploying openstack?00:56
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sputnik13sinh: on your cinder node, you have to set glance_api_servers in /etc/cinder/cinder.conf to point to the correct glance api server endpoint00:57
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sputnik13sinh: if you're using openstack-puppet, they do not account for this...  I've made the modification and submitted a pull request, but I have to follow up on it because I didn't go through the gerritt process...  been meaning to do that :)00:58
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PEPPERONIEsputnik13: it's a real obstacle00:59
PEPPERONIEyou can give them a piece of your mind in #puppet-openstack :)00:59
sputnik13PEPPERONIE: nah, I believe in processes :)00:59
sputnik13I just have to take a little time and learn the gerritt process01:00
sputnik13we're talking about using that process internally at my company so it'll be good :)01:00
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kbrierlyany linux kernel/hardware  guru's out there? Got an strange issue on compute nodes.01:55
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kbrierlybasically the application running on the vm's is memory intensive and on some compute nodes it's 2 times faster on identical hardware.  tests with dd to tmpfs show writes of 2G/s and on the slower ones 1G/s01:56
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kbrierlyand using stream test from http://www.cs.virginia.edu/stream/ shows similar results01:57
kbrierlyanyone ever seend something like this?01:57
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sfoxkbrierly: are the ram modules in the same banks?02:08
kbrierlyyes. and all are same speed and model across both systems02:09
sfoxHave you checked the ilo/imm/drac for ecc/crc errors?02:10
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kbrierlyyes, but this is widespread anyway. out of an entire rack of servers only 3 run at the fast speed, the rest slower02:11
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sfoxSingle or dual socket? sometimes hoping over numa bus can slow things down02:11
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kbrierlynot sure i understand that question sorry. dual cpu's in all if that's what you mena02:13
sfoxif the qemu process is jumping across from one socket to another, you can get some bad slowdowns02:14
kbrierlyi tested memory speeds from the compute node itself02:15
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sfoxare the vm's evenly distributed?02:16
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kbrierlythe look to be yes02:16
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kbrierlykernel version doesn't seem to be it. They are all 3.2.0-52-generic or 3.2.0-53-generic.02:17
sfoxcan you run memory checks from inside the vms as well?02:18
kbrierlycurrently we don't have access to tenant vm's02:18
kbrierlybut seems to be a platform level issue02:19
kbrierlyonly other thing from stream test was completely differnt clock ticks02:19
kbrierlyFAST server: Each test below will take on the order of 11168 microseconds.02:20
kbrierlySLOW server: Each test below will take on the order of 21187 microseconds.02:20
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kbrierlyFAST copy test: 12102.8 MB/s   SLOW copy test: 6413.3 MB/s02:21
sfoxAnd you're doing these tests on the compute nodes not in the vms?02:22
kbrierlyyes02:22
sfoxare they swapping out when you dd to tmpfs?02:22
kbrierlyno02:22
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sfoxhave you got cpu affinity turned on?02:23
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kbrierlyhmm now that i haven't checked...02:23
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kbrierlyfar as i can tell it's not being set anywhere unles it's a kernel option. nothing in sysctl02:28
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sfoxAny difference in sysctl for a slow or fast server?02:29
kbrierlyno02:30
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sfoxare the servers loaded with vm activity? do you have empty servers to test on?02:32
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kbrierlyboth the one's i'm testing on are a load average of 502:32
sfoxSounds like a bottleneck somewhere, without peeking inside the vm's id say you're gonna have a hard time02:33
kbrierlysfox, exactly my problem :)02:33
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kbrierlythanks for the help. got a meeting in 12 hours i best call it a day :)02:34
sfoxhow about getting libvirt stats out?02:34
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sfoxHey no worries, sorry I could give you the answer. have a good meeting :)02:34
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kbrierlysfox, thanks again. yeah this one has me stumped02:37
sfoxId get all the ram stats out of libvirt from all servers and see what shows up. Brightcove have a collector system for feeding stats into Graphite if you interested in that (im not associated with either)02:39
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sinhanyone use file injection to set up the network config?03:49
sinhtrying to avoid the use of dnsmasq03:49
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sinhthe only reference i see to file_injection is for the baremetal config section. .03:50
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Sam-I-Amthere must be a way to do it03:56
Sam-I-Amthats how rackspace does it03:56
sinhhrm03:57
sinhi see a config option for flat_injection03:57
sinhbut nothing for just regular file injection03:58
sinhi was thinking of maybe using the config drive03:58
sinhbut i don't understand how that can be a dynamic solution if it's a cd image03:59
sinhexposed to the guest03:59
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Sam-I-Ami'm not exactly sure how its done04:05
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Sam-I-Ambut i know you can set a lot of stuff via metadata04:05
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Sam-I-Amin the rackspace stuff, it just injects the whole /etc/network/interfaces file i think04:05
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sinhSam-I-Am: yeah but the use of the metadata requires your interface to have an actual ip assigned04:16
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Sam-I-Amhmm, there is that...04:17
sinhso it's like a catch 22 where you need a mechnism to get your IP to access the meta data service like dhcp/dnsmasq, but at the same time you're trying to avoid using it04:18
Sam-I-Ami'm curious what rackspace is doing then04:18
sinhyeah04:18
sinhme too04:18
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Sam-I-Ami know the metadata server listens on 169.254.something04:19
Sam-I-Amand thats a self-assigned range04:19
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rkeene169.254.169.25404:19
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rkeeneIt's part of the IPv4 Link-Local address range (169.254.0.0/16)04:20
rkeene(RFC 3927)04:20
sinhyeah04:20
sinhbut how does your host get that ip without the use of dhcp?04:20
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rkeeneRFC 3927 defines how you get an IPv4 link-local address04:21
rkeeneBut basically, you pick an IP (method for picking is defined in the RFC) and then see if anyone is using it using ARP WHOHAS, if in use, try again04:21
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rkeeneIPv4 link-local solves a completely different problem than DHCP, but they both provide automatically assigned IPs (DHCP provides a lot more, like usually a routable IP -- IPv4 link-local is always unroutable)04:22
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sinhok04:23
sinhso. .04:23
sinhhere's the issue04:23
sinhfrom my pespective04:23
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sinhfor a guest to be of any use04:23
sinhit has to be on the network. . getting a link-local address is fine04:23
sinhbut dnsmasq allows you to set up a route to the metadata service04:24
rkeeneThe metadata service is on 169.254.169.254, which is in the IPv4 link-local range.04:24
sinhyes04:25
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rkeene(How it's actually implemented is packets destined for 169.254.169.254 are DNAT'd to the local compute node's IP so that the same IP can always be used to talk to the hosting box without a network route being needed)04:26
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rkeeneConfiguring an IPv4 Link-Local address is easy and can generally be done with a shell script using "arping" and "ip"/"ifconfig" if you aren't too concerned about RFC 3927 compliance and just want it to work.04:27
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rkeene(The kernel also has an option to configure one for you, but I don't know if anyone ever uses it)04:29
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rkeeneHmm ?04:31
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rkeeneIt's not really complicated...04:32
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rkeeneYou configure an interface with an ip like 169.254.13.6/16, then 169.254.169.254 is directly reachable over that interface so you can get metadata over HTTP from it, then you can do whatever you want04:33
sinhwell yes04:33
sinhi know you can do that04:33
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rkeeneI'm not understanding what you are wanting more information on then.04:34
tejuis anyone familiar with cinder + netapp?04:34
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rkeeneI'm familiar with NetApp (eww), but not Cinder.04:35
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sinhrkeene - i know what you're talking about. . it requires a change to my images that i can easily do so it's not really an issue. . it's just a matter of whether there is another way of doing things04:39
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rkeeneIf you want metadata, there's not another way (aside from getting a non-IPv4-link-local address, which you generally want DHCP for -- though there's nothing stopping you from not doing so, but you have to figure out what network you are connected to)04:41
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Sam-I-Amor you could just use ipv6 :)04:42
rkeeneI haven't checked to see if OpenStack provides an IPv6-link-local address for metadata04:42
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rkeene(My guess is no)04:42
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Sam-I-Amthere was kind of a joke there...04:44
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sinhheh04:47
sinhsputnik13 - you were right about the glance setting in cinder04:48
sinhcompletely missed it04:48
sinhonce i added it and it was fine04:48
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sinhthanks04:48
sputnik13sinh: cool, np glad it helped04:48
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rkeeneSam-I-Am, Jokes are usually funny...04:49
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Sam-I-Amor plain sad.04:50
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sputnik13anyone have experience using flavor extra-specs?04:52
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Sam-I-Amnope...05:01
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rkeeneBlargh, mod_wsgi 3.4 segfaults ?!05:07
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Sam-I-Amerg?05:11
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rkeenemod_wsgi 3.4 is apparently quite buggy.05:12
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rkeene(Also, it's the latest release -- which is apparently a few years old)05:16
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rkeeneIt seems kind of silly to build on all this crappy software.05:29
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PEPPERONIErkeene: ?05:38
rkeenePEPPERONIE, mod_wsgi's latest release (version 3.4) is known-buggy and over 1.5 years old.05:39
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PEPPERONIErkeene: we could use gunicorn?05:41
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rkeeneHmm ?  I'm not suggesting anything mythical or even hard.  If your software has known bugs that cause segfaults and the patches have been committed to your source control repo, at some point you should cut a new release.05:42
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PEPPERONIErkeene: http://gunicorn.org/05:44
rkeeneOh, I thought it was sarcastic05:44
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PEPPERONIErkeene: no not at all05:46
PEPPERONIEand gunicorn is a realistic goal if segfaults are a real problem05:47
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rkeeneCan Horizon readily run under Gunicron ?05:47
rkeeneGunicorn, rather.05:47
PEPPERONIErkeene: Most WSGI applications will run readily under gunicorn with no modification05:47
rkeeneWhat about Horizon ?05:48
PEPPERONIEshould work fine05:48
PEPPERONIEI'll have to try that...05:48
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sputnik13is tornado wsgi?05:48
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gmg85does openstack support oauth?07:20
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gmg85what authentication mechanism does openstack use?07:22
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Ilegmg85, keystone, AD, LDAP are at least supported07:24
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Ilekeystone might support oauth in the future if you believe the keystone wiki page07:26
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gmg85is keystone the default?07:27
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Ileyeah07:27
gmg85is keystone available for use in other projects?07:28
gmg85can i use it in my custom api07:28
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rkeeneI really hate Python.07:28
Ilewell, i probably worded that wrong. i was trying to say that keystone supports its own auth system, AD and LDAP07:28
rkeene# time /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/lesscpy /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/openstack_dashboard/static/dashboard/less/horizon.less >/dev/null07:29
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rkeenereal    0m57.813s07:29
Ilehttp://docs.openstack.org/developer/keystone/ might have something07:29
gmg85Ile, cool...let me check that out07:29
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tejuVolumeBackendAPIException: Bad or unexpected response from the storage volume backend API: Failed to get vol with required size for volume:08:55
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gmg85apart from oauth and basic authentication over ssl what other options are there for api authentication?08:55
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redbeardhi there. my controller node was shown as a hypervisor therefore I disabled that corresponding service. but I still see the controller in the dashboards hypervisors. how can I remove that?09:27
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cfarquharredbeard: look in the database at nova.services and set deleted=1 for that service.  if it shows back up you still have nova-compute running on the controller.11:31
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redbeardcompute is stopped, but thanks for the hint. I will look at the db11:32
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SweetsharkHi guys! How do I push a patch to openstack? I have it ready to push to gerrit, but I read something about filing a CLA or something. Someone having a good link?12:04
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Sweetsharkdisregard that, its happening with the first sign-in on gerrit, doh.12:08
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is_nullhi all, is it possible to run devstack on ubuntu 32bit guest ? i don't have the bios admin password and can't enable VT-x without voiding my warantee :(12:45
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vkmcis_null, Hi! You can use a virtual machine with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and run Devstack in there12:46
vkmcSweetshark, Hey, could you submit your patch?12:47
vkmcSweetshark, Thanks for that btw12:47
shinta42whats the difference between coreos vs openshift vs openstack?12:47
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vkmcshinta42, OpenStack is IaaS and OpenShift is PaaS... Coreos, I haven't heard about it before12:48
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vkmcshinta42, I'm cheking it, and it looks like CoreOS is an OS for servers/clusters12:52
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t4nk915hi anyone here..12:52
t4nk915i want to configure a backup server for openstack..12:52
t4nk915i have configured a multi-node openstac now..12:53
is_nullvkmc: yep, can the vm be 32bit ?12:53
t4nk915please help me, on which method we have to do so.12:53
t4nk915??12:53
vkmcis_null, Sure12:53
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t4nk915my VMs can configure in 32 and 64 bits12:54
is_nullt4nk915: because you have VT-x enabled, i can't enable it12:54
is_nullif you hadn't VT-x (hw virt) then you wouldn't be able to do vms in 64 bit at all12:55
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Sweetsharkvkmc: I just tried, somehow gerrit doesnt let me in with the key I just uploaded for it ...13:23
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Sweetsharkvkmc: doh, my username somehow wasnt set yet in gerrit (likely did the 'fill in username, but didnt press select-username but finish on the sign-in wizard). Anyway, patch is up now: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/76197/113:43
Sweetsharkthanks guys.13:43
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japplewhite1Hi all - I'm looking for info on doing live migrations on havana/icehouse using shared storage. Is live migration supported officially by the code now? I saw that in grizzly the live migration was not supported.15:36
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Drankisjapplewhite1, yes, you can do live migration. In havana it is possible.15:38
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japplewhite1hi Drankis: can you tell me more about it or point me to docs?15:39
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mriedemjapplewhite1: fyi https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/128250615:40
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japplewhite1mriedem: thanks that is exactly what I needed15:41
mriedemjapplewhite1: fyi, you can go to the nova triage page with the tags https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage15:41
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mriedemto look for untriaged (untagged) bugs, and those that have been tagged, so i found that one by looking at untriaged bugs tagged with 'volumes'15:41
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japplewhite1mriedem: ok thanks good to know15:42
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diogogmtcan anybody point me on the right direction to learn the differences about domains/projects/groups?16:41
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diogogmtwe were using the identity v2 api before and we didn't deal with domains neither groups16:41
diogogmtnow we are moving to v3 so we want to see how groups and domains can benefit us16:42
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agy_diogogmt: https://github.com/openstack/identity-api/blob/master/openstack-identity-api/v3/src/markdown/identity-api-v3.md#whats-new-in-version-3016:46
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diogogmtagy_: i see that the horizon dashboard doesn't have the UI to access most of the api related to domain and groups16:47
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sushma_Hi all, I am trying to use the configdrive feature of nova, but not clear about its uses apart from sending the metadata into a serparate drive.. Is configdrive used for anthing else apart from that?16:48
diogogmtis it recommended to consume the api directly by passing the dashboard? I just want to get a feel of what is new on v316:48
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agy_diogogmt: unforunately i've not had the opportunity to properly experiment. sorry16:49
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kitp_heyo.  so, all of a sudden i can't get to any of my instances, and when i try to view them in the web-UI i get an error "Unable to retrieve instances".  any ideas/help?17:05
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TravTGlance question here. I can put properties on images in glance.  However, is there any way for users to discover what properties they should use?  In other words, can they query something to see "here are all the standard properties that they should use in this environment?"17:07
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bma_hey...17:14
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bma_i need to define and external IP to an instance... how can I do it?17:14
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bma_I'm a little lost in here17:15
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mandarineGood morning (wow, this is a lot of people in one channel)17:17
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mandarineI might have a question on openstack-swift authentication : I would actually like to know if there is a right way to deactivate it ...17:18
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mandarineFor now, the "cleanest" solution I have found might consist in setting the X-Auth-Token header in nginx ... And I don't think that is right17:19
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mandarineAny idea or keywords to search would be much welcome17:20
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agy_bma_: search for floating_ip17:27
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agy_mandarine: remove auth from pipeline:main ? i'd not suggest it, but i don't know your usecase17:28
mandarineagy_: I have tried this but maybe not enough17:29
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mandarineClients are anthenticated elsewhere, no worry ;)17:29
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mandarineauthenticated*17:29
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bma_agy_: I've done that... but I only have one ip to attribute and i create a pool with nova-manage where --ip_range= takes only one ip17:30
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bma_if i exec nova-manage floating-ip-list i can see the ip17:30
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bma_but i can't assign it... it says floating ip not found17:31
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cihhanIs anybody using Windows machines with Cygwin as a VM?18:02
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rkeeneI'm having an issue with nova-compute:  http://www.rkeene.org/viewer/tmp/libvirtd-versus-nova-compute.txt.htm18:18
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Guest94054hello there.  having some trouble getting neutron port to come "up" (shows down in neutron "port-list"  i found the following in the ovs-vswitchd.log:  dpif|WARN|system@ovs-system: failed to add tapd504286b-ed as port: No such device)18:41
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diogogmtis there a client to consume the identity v3 api?18:49
diogogmtthe pythonn keystone client seems to only work with b218:49
diogogmt*v218:49
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larsksdiogogmt: I think the unified client -- python-openstackclient -- supports the V3 apis.19:01
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diogogmtlarsks: this one https://github.com/openstack/python-openstackclient ?19:02
larsksdiogogmt: Yup.19:02
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diogogmtlarsks: is it recommended to use identity v3 on production?19:03
diogogmti'm finding very little info on it, most docs only covers v219:03
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sputnik13netidentity v3 breaks user password management on horizon19:07
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sputnik13netpassword self service rather19:07
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sputnik13horizon tries to use identity v3 by default, at least it did on my setup...  had to force it to use v219:08
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sputnik13v3 has the concept of user groups, which I would like to have, but the password self service is a bigger requirement for me19:08
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diogogmtsputnik13: what do you mean by that? is that a known issue of v3?19:10
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sputnik13diogogmt: don't know if it's an issue with horizon or with keystone api v3, just know that when put together I get no password change panel for users19:11
sputnik13on horizon19:11
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sputnik13someone pointed out to me that horizon user password change panel doesn't work with keystone api v319:12
diogogmtsputnik13: are you able to consume the identity v3 api? I'm trying to consume with curl, nodes, openstack-client, keystone-client and none of them works19:12
sputnik13so when I forced horizon to use v2, everything worked except I lost the user group capability19:12
sputnik13why do you want to use identity v319:12
sputnik13if you have no use case for it, it seems like an academic exercise19:13
diogogmtmainly because of domains and groups, which to be honest i'm not 100% i need it19:13
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sputnik13groups are nice, but for me allowing our users to set their passwords is a higher requirement, so I have horizon using identity v219:14
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keyvanim trying to run maven on the openstack-manuals project19:56
keyvanbut it takes forever -- its been running for about 20 minutes now19:57
keyvanand im supposed to do this before every push... ?19:57
keyvanthere must be a better way, this is just documentation no less19:57
diogogmtwhy do i need to define a network when creating a server and not a subnet? isn't the subnet the one defining the ip space?19:57
keyvanany clues?19:57
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keyvan(thanks in advance)19:57
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keyvanok it just completed after 17 mins20:00
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Sam-I-Amkeyvan: the first run is LONG20:31
Sam-I-Amkeyvan: subsequent runs, assuming a sufficiently modern machine with 3-4 gigs of ram... maybe 2 minutes.20:31
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Sam-I-Amkeyvan: you dont necessarily need to build locally for every patch, but for many patches it helps make sure everything looks nice and things like links agree with the rest of the docs20:32
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stevemgreetings channel.20:40
stevemwondering if anyone has come accross this error: TRACE nova KeyError: 'instance_type_memory_mb'20:41
stevem..when trying to instatiate a new vm20:41
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mounirbsdague: ping21:07
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jroovers|afkhi all, I have a question related to nova's policy.json, is there anyone around that could help me with this?21:54
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PEPPERONIEjroovers: I can try!22:01
jroovershi PEPPERONIE, thanks!22:01
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jrooversPEPPERONIE, so what I'm trying to do is disable nova image-create22:02
PEPPERONIEOooh oky22:02
jrooversfor non-admin users22:02
PEPPERONIEokay22:02
jroovershttp://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-compute/2/content/Create_Image-d1e4655.html22:02
jrooversthat API call22:02
jrooversnow, I looks like there is no corresponding line in policy.json22:03
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PEPPERONIEright22:03
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PEPPERONIEnot by default at least22:03
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jrooversPEPPERONIE, ok, is there a way I can add it?22:04
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PEPPERONIEjroovers: have you used AWS IAM before? it's kind of like that22:05
PEPPERONIEcheck out this document: http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content//keystone-concepts.html22:05
jrooversPEPPERONIE, sorry, I haven't22:05
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PEPPERONIEbut yes, you're going to extend your policy.json with the extra rules you want22:06
jrooversPEPPERONIE, ok that is good news :-)22:06
PEPPERONIEYep! Openstack is incredibly powerful and flexible22:06
PEPPERONIEsometimes to a fault22:06
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jrooversPEPPERONIE, could you give me a hand with what I exactly need to do?22:06
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PEPPERONIEjroovers: well you want to restrict image creation, right?22:08
jrooversPEPPERONIE, yes22:08
PEPPERONIEThat's going to be in glance22:08
jrooversbut only via nova22:08
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PEPPERONIEso /etc/glance/policy.json22:08
jrooversPEPPERONIE, so we need it to work via glance22:08
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jrooversPEPPERONIE, just not using nova image-create22:08
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diogogmthow can i create subnets with the same cidr on openstack?22:09
diogogmti have networks on different projects but it is not letting me reuse the cidrs on the subnes22:09
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jrooversPEPPERONIE, any thoughts?22:11
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PEPPERONIEjroovers: reading through the docs... I'm trying to find a reference for all of the configurables in policy.json but I can't find it22:12
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jrooversPEPPERONIE, so I've googled that and I believe I found a remark somewhere that that is currently non-existing :( sorry, don't have the link22:12
PEPPERONIE:-/ I guess that's all I can contribute for now, hang out for a bit and someone smarter than me can help :)22:12
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jrooversPEPPERONIE, ok thanks22:13
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