Thursday, 2014-03-06

Gamekiller77do is this VM a volume boot00:00
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Gamekiller77it has to be00:00
Gamekiller77if not it will not work00:00
Gamekiller77you have to remove the volume from the first instance00:01
Gamekiller77add to second instance do your work00:01
Gamekiller77add it back00:01
monstgotcha, crazy00:01
monstthere is a command called cloud-initramfs-growroot00:02
monstI cant find good documentation on it yet00:02
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Gamekiller77if you have the metadata service all setup00:03
Gamekiller77it should grow the fs for you00:03
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monstcool, thanks for the help!00:03
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Gamekiller77not a problem00:06
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Gamekiller77neutron-db-check saying no version what the heck00:06
Gamekiller77does neutron really need a DB or just OVS00:07
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Sam-I-AmGamekiller77: neutron needs a db00:16
Sam-I-Amovs is a separate thing00:16
Sam-I-AmGamekiller77: sorry i was on the phone00:16
Gamekiller77can someone with havana that has neutron run tell me what is in there alembic_version00:16
Gamekiller77can you get me the value of that field in you setup00:16
Sam-I-Amare you upgrading something?00:16
Gamekiller77in the neutron db00:16
Gamekiller77migrating00:16
Sam-I-AmGamekiller77: what table?00:16
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Gamekiller77neutron db table alembic_version00:16
Gamekiller77value version_num00:17
Gamekiller77the db was empty00:17
Sam-I-Amone sec00:17
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Gamekiller77thanks man00:17
Gamekiller77not sure why it did not populate the DB00:17
Gamekiller77command line start of neutron work fine now but neutron-db-check stops it now00:17
Sam-I-Ami do not have that table in mind00:18
Sam-I-Ammine00:18
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Gamekiller77crap00:18
Gamekiller77yah i just switched to the RH Platform distro00:18
Sam-I-Amso, the other services have a 'db sync' command00:19
Sam-I-Amneutron is... different00:19
Gamekiller77do you see a migration field00:19
Sam-I-Amthere is a neutron-db-manage command00:19
Gamekiller77yah it dose it at service start00:19
Sam-I-Amyeah00:19
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Gamekiller77the DB blank00:19
Gamekiller77and it never puts in the data to the version control00:19
Sam-I-Amso you upgraded from grizzly to havana and the db is empty now?00:20
Gamekiller77never was in there00:20
Gamekiller77hehe00:20
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Gamekiller77i really do not need anything from it00:20
Gamekiller77let me see what in the ovs db00:20
Sam-I-Amovs is different00:20
Gamekiller77i think it may have just used that00:20
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Gamekiller77i know but some how i see all the data in that DB00:21
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Gamekiller77yah ova is the old quantum data00:22
Gamekiller77i want to blow that away00:22
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Gamekiller77it all good in the neutron as the command line worked just fine00:22
Gamekiller77but with empty DB no tables00:22
Gamekiller77i was getting errors about DB versions00:22
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Gamekiller77that just odd ok i quit for today00:25
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Sam-I-Amlol00:28
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mayurhi anyone please redirect me to the queries regarding Openstack wiki ?01:51
mayurmailing list01:52
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larsksmayur: What?01:55
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larsksmayur: Possibly https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Contact is what you're looking for?01:56
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mayurhi larsks I have found some scripts are missing from this page https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Setup_keystone_in_Eclipse01:57
mayurI want to make them notice01:57
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mayurYa ....thanks got it.01:58
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larsksYou can potentially open a bug report about it.01:58
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mayurhi annegentle01:59
larsks...or possibly just edit the page yourself?01:59
larsksYeah, if you log in, you should just be able to fix the page yourself, if you're so inclined.01:59
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annegentlehi mayur, yes just change the wiki as you see fit, using your Launchpad id02:00
mayurthe problem is there are several scripts which makes Keystone DB configuration, keystone client running are missing02:00
mayurI have just started exploring Openstack... !! :)02:00
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mayurso I want it to redirect to proper authority....!02:01
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mayurlarsks,annegentle:  if I will get how it will work , I will definately work on it !! Thanx for help.02:06
larsksannegentle: got a minute for a docs website question?02:07
larsksannegentle: see, e.g., https://www.google.com/search?q=nova+live+migration02:07
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larsksannegentle: And look at the first several (4?) links.  They all include a "//" in the URL, which breaks all the linked content (css/images/etc).02:08
larsksJust about all the google results I see for docs.openstack.org look like this.02:08
larsksA rewrite on the webserver to get rid of the "//" would make everything look much nicer.02:08
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Sam-I-Amlarsks: i think there's a bug posted about this02:10
Sam-I-Amlarsks: maybe you can add your suggestion there?02:10
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larsksannegentle suggested a bug report a month ago or so, but it's not clear it was the right one.02:10
larsksI only mention it because it seems like a simple fix for a huge class of ugly problems.02:10
larsksIf people are already aware of it, my job here is done :).02:10
Sam-I-Amdo you remember the bug #?02:11
larsksNope, it was a while ago.02:11
larsksI'll go poke at my logs.02:11
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larskshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/119144702:14
larsksYay logs.02:14
larskshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1191447/comments/2502:14
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Sam-I-Amso it seems like the htaccess was fixed... probably the root of the problem02:15
Sam-I-Ami remember hearing about that02:15
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Sam-I-Amhowever, google isnt reindexing for some reason02:16
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larsksThe page content and modification date haven't changed, right?02:16
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Sam-I-Amsome of them probably have02:16
Sam-I-Ambut not all of them02:16
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larsksHmm.  Anyway, seems like a simple rewriterule with a 301 ("moved permanently") redirect would fix it all.02:17
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Sam-I-Amcan you open a new bug? it doesnt seem quite related to 119144702:17
larsksHmm, I wish launchpad had a "make a new bug from this comment" button.02:18
Sam-I-Amwell, write the code? :)02:18
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Sam-I-Ambtw, are you doing much with icehouse yet? wondered if you'd be doing an ml2 install webinar.02:19
larsksDoc bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/128851302:20
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Sam-I-Amlarsks: thx, i just confirmed and changed priority02:21
Sam-I-Ami would fix it if i knew how, but not exactly sure where that code is buried02:21
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larsksHaven't played much with icehouse yet.  I was thinking of redeploying my environment from the demo with ml2 + vxlan tomorrow, since the packstack support for that just dropped recently.02:23
larsksStarting to look more closely at the icehouse stuff is actually on my plate this week.02:23
Sam-I-Ami tried getting ml2 working with the rdo packages with a manual install and it didnt end well02:23
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larsksI haven't poked at the ML2 support at all yet.02:24
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Sam-I-Amthe ubuntu packages seemed to work. the rdo stuff couldn't create tables due to a referential integrity problem02:25
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Sam-I-Amseems neutron is 'different' in how it creates its db. everything else seems to have a db sync command.02:25
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Sam-I-Amhoping the milestone 3 rdo packages fix it02:25
larsksSam-I-Am: I am intimately familiar with neutron's database weirdness :/. Had to write up a grizzly -> havana upgrade plan.02:26
Sam-I-Amnot sure why its that way02:26
Sam-I-Ami think packstack runs neutron-db-manage blah blah head02:27
Sam-I-Amotherwise neutron seems to populate when it starts up02:27
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Sam-I-Amubuntu doesn't call neutron-db-manage in the post-inst scripts02:28
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annegentlelarsks: I was just getting annoyed by that again and had a theory, is it possible our sitemap.xml is poorly formatted?02:29
Sam-I-Aman anne appear02:29
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annegentlewould a 301 work? Arent there a bunch of those already?02:30
larsksannegentle: not for all the examples I've given :)02:30
larsksannegentle: re: sitemap.xml, there are no occurrences of the erroneous "//" in sitemap.xml.02:30
annegentlelarsks: but I'm not sure how to get the list?02:31
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larsksannegentle: Do you need a list?  I was assuming a simple pattern match for any path containing "//", rewrite it to have a single "/" and issue a 301 redirect.02:31
annegentlelarsks: yes a list and map is required as far as I can tell since the file names changed sometimes02:32
annegentlelarsks: but what causes the //?02:32
larsksannegentle: I think that may be a different problem?02:32
annegentlelarsks: yeah the // is a mystery to me02:32
larsksIn this case, the documents all exist.02:32
Sam-I-Amannegentle: wasnt it a problem with the .htaccess ?02:32
larsksThe direct would be from "URL containing //" to "same url with // translated to /".02:32
larsksSo you don't need to worry about renames or anything.02:32
Sam-I-Amannegentle: but google hasn't reindexed either because the content hasnt changed or the // still works02:33
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annegentleSam-I-Am: the // hasn't been triaged or explained02:33
Sam-I-Ami think if it got a 301 from a // it would update02:33
annegentlelike do a google search for openstack floating ip and the grizzly hits give a //02:33
Sam-I-Amannegentle: hmm, i thought we had a conversation in -doc a few weeks ago about this02:33
annegentlemaybe it's just broken with the grizzly redirects?02:34
Sam-I-Amand there was some editing of an .htaccess02:34
larsksNope, not just grizzly.02:34
larskshttp://docs.openstack.org/havana/config-reference/content//configuring-openstack-compute-basics.html02:34
annegentleSam-I-Am: yes we talk about it all the time but I don't know the fix02:34
annegentlelarsks: ok02:34
Sam-I-Amannegentle: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/71673/02:34
annegentlelarsks: Sam-I-Am: my only other theory is that the Foundation's search engine is adding those somehow02:34
Sam-I-Amlarsks: also check out that patch02:35
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annegentleSam-I-Am: larsks: oh do we need more like that (not ending in /content/)?02:36
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annegentleSam-I-Am: yeah it really is the htaccess redirects adding the extra slash it seems02:36
larsksannegentle: ...but fixing that is only half the solution, since the bad links are already out there.  So it would be nice to make them work, too.02:37
annegentlelarsks: fixing // is half?02:37
Sam-I-Amit fixes the new stuff02:37
Sam-I-Amwe need to fix the old stuff and make google reindex02:38
larsks^^^ this.02:38
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annegentleSam-I-Am: make google reindex02:39
annegentleSam-I-Am: by02:39
Sam-I-Amannegentle: you need to use 'sudo'02:39
annegentleSam-I-Am: google make me a sammich02:40
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Sam-I-Amannegentle: when google checks those // links, it'll get a 301 now, and then update the index02:40
Sam-I-Am(if someone implements redirects)02:40
larskswhich, assuming apache, might look something like: rewriterule (.*)//(.*) $1/$2 [R=301]02:41
Sam-I-Amor at least it should do that... larks?02:41
Sam-I-Amyeah, that02:41
larsksI *think* the 301 will be meaningful to google?  Maybe?  SEO is not really my area of strength :)02:41
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Sam-I-Amhmm02:42
larskshttps://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/93633?hl=en02:43
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Sam-I-Amheh, i was just looking at that02:44
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annegentlelarsks: Sam-I-Am: I wonder if a canonical url is taking over somewhere02:45
Sam-I-Amhowso?02:45
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annegentleSam-I-Am: so still theoretical, but, our pom.xml:          <canonicalUrlBase>http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide-admin/content/</canonicalUrlBase>02:49
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annegentleso then is our output html adding a <link rel="canonical" href=" to every grizzly output page?02:50
larsks(not just grizzly...)02:50
Sam-I-Amhmm...02:51
annegentlelarsks: oh right /trunk/config-reference too, but any other?02:51
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annegentleoh hellz no02:52
larsks...?02:52
annegentlethat's it, our output is all riddled with this02:52
annegentle<link rel="canonical" href="http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/config-reference/content//configuring-openstack-compute-basics.html"/02:52
larsksNice.02:52
annegentlewell that's a doc build bug fo sho02:52
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annegentleNICEONE larsks!02:52
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larsks\o/02:52
annegentleSOLVED.02:52
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annegentlewell at least I know where to point to :)02:52
annegentlegeebus02:52
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annegentleSo glad that's at least another clue02:52
Sam-I-Amahh02:53
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Sam-I-Amannegentle: 1288513 if you want to update it02:54
larsksI still think it would be nice to have redirects to make the bad links work, although potentially that could be removed down the line once it appears that google has reindexed everything.02:54
annegentleSam-I-Am: done02:55
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annegentlelarsks: you up for a patch? I'm gonna try a fix for the root cuase02:55
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annegentlecause even02:55
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Sam-I-Amlarsks: warning... you can't fix just one thing :)02:56
larsksHahahahah. Does the apache config live in the openstack-manuals project?02:56
larsks...yes, he answered himself, looking at that review link annegentle posted earlier.02:57
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Sam-I-Amheh02:57
Sam-I-Amdoooo eeeiiittt02:57
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annegentlelarsks: peer pressure, do it!02:58
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annegentleman you have no idea how much that has been bugging me!!!!!!02:58
Sam-I-Amand me too02:58
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larsksWhere is the openstack-manuals git repository? The project page only mentions the bzr repo.03:00
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Sam-I-Amhttp://git.openstack.org/cgit ?03:00
Sam-I-Amits in there03:00
larsksI started at https://launchpad.net/openstack-manuals03:01
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larsksThat seemed like the obvious place to look :)03:01
larsksBut yeah, thanks, got it from the cgit link.03:01
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Sam-I-Amhmmm, maybe that needs some updating03:01
Sam-I-Amnothing is obvious here03:01
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Sam-I-Amannegentle: think the launchpad site needs some updates?03:03
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larsksHmmm, especially because lp:openstack-manuals is way out of date (last commit: June 2013)03:04
Sam-I-Amyeah03:04
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Sam-I-Ami guess anne's the only person who can update that03:04
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larsksAll right.  I must rip myself away from the computer for the evening, but I will take a look at .htaccess tomorrow.03:05
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Sam-I-Amis that possible?03:06
Sam-I-Ami'm going on hour 14 here... i should stop.03:06
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Sam-I-Amthanks larsks, seeya tomorrow03:07
Sam-I-Amor... if you're east coast... later :)03:07
annegentleSam-I-Am: larsks: I can update the launchpad site03:07
Sam-I-Amannegentle: excellent03:07
annegentleheh yeah /me should probably do the same :)03:07
Sam-I-Ami'm definitely a bit fried03:08
Sam-I-Amdiagrams!03:08
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annegentleSam-I-Am: hee. Ok, stepping away03:11
annegentlebuh-bye03:11
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Sam-I-Amannegentle: seeeeeya!03:11
Sam-I-Amme too... but first, a review.03:12
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Sam-I-Amlarsks: step away from the computer :)04:42
larsksHey, you were peeking.04:42
Sam-I-Amyeah i know04:43
Sam-I-Amand you couldnt resist patching :)04:43
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larsksSo, this is against master.  Do I need to separately submit for stable/*, too?04:43
Sam-I-Amhmm04:44
larsks...that's what anngentle did in the bug for her pom.xml fix.04:44
Sam-I-Amin this case i think there's only one .htaccess04:44
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larsksI'll leave it as it is right now.04:45
Sam-I-Ami dont think its attached to a branch04:45
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Sam-I-Amlarsks: going to bed now?04:52
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larsksPretty soon.  Just finishing up some dr. who :)04:52
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Sam-I-Ami was reading an actual paper book, now watching house of cards04:53
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larsksI have not gotten into that yet.  I suspect it has insufficient aliens to hold my interest.04:55
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Sam-I-Amlol04:55
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Akshikhi team, while trying to install openstack in Centos6.5 after issuing  yum install openstack-utils im getting the following Error: Package: openstack-utils-2013.2-2.el6.noarch (openstack-havana) Requires: crudini05:39
Sam-I-Amdid you yum update?05:41
Sam-I-Amalso, did you add the epel repo05:41
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Akshiki did yum update05:42
Akshikhavent added the epel repo05:42
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AkshikSam-I-Am: Thanks, it worked after epel repo05:56
Sam-I-Ami think the docs mention that...05:56
Sam-I-Amif you're using the install guide05:56
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P-NuTHi All, is it possible to have 4 machines clustered together and build a redundant VM cluster that shares resources with openstack?10:27
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melmothanyone on top their head knows if openstack api is using http 1.0 or http 1.1 (question being, is the hostname of the endpoint important, or is using the ip enough ?)10:42
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AkshikHi Team,10:59
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lxsameerhey guys, is it possible to use openstack to create a cloud with 2 node for example, and add more nodes in the future ?11:54
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anand_lxsameer, yes11:56
lxsameeranand_: great. how much memory does a normal openstack installation in a single node takes11:57
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anand_lxsameer, pls find the prerequisites in openstack docs11:58
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lxsameerok12:00
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Kate23 You can find funny videos here. http://bit.do/my_videos6912:03
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mstackerhi everyone12:21
mstackeranyone here know about benchmarking vms in openstack compared to physical machines?12:21
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rotbeardmstacker, what do you want to benchmark? in general a _vm_ is similar to a _physical maschine_ for benchmark tools12:25
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rotbeardand if you have the bottleneck on your compute node, it is also in your vm12:25
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mstackerhi jhesketh, thanks for the response.... that is what I thought, but when running hdparm -t /dev/vda, the speed keeps increasing on repetitions, such as the intiital result fave around 130MBps, and subsequent runs of the same command gave after about 20th time, 1.4 GBps12:27
mstackerI even tried hdparm --direct -t /dev/vda, but it still keeps increasing12:27
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rdoanyone seen an issue with neutron's L3 agent with packets destined for the an external network just seem to die if there's any bandwidth requirement? wondering if it's an ARP problem12:27
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exed_what is the best way in grizzly to connect instances directly via a bridge or virt interface with a physical network, without router agent? we have video streaming devices in the network and i would like to stream directly to the host -> instance instead of routing it through one compute/network node. any ideas/suggestions?13:21
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trondhamI'm looking at integrating gluster with openstack, particularly cinder. I currently have two dedicated gluster hosts, one controller host running most of the api services, one network node and one compute node. Out of these, where should I put the cinder volume service, from a best practice perspective (or should I set up dedicated cinder hosts)?13:30
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sputnik13exed_: I wouldn't recommend running without a router, it's caused more headaches for me than it was worth...  you could always use vlan networking over neutron and just put your streaming devices on the same vlan13:32
sputnik13vlan and IP subnet13:32
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exed_@sputnik13 can i run GRE and clan in different subnets in parallel? any links?13:33
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sputnik13exed_: don't know about that13:33
sputnik13why GRE?13:33
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tomixxx3hi, i cannot synchronize the time on my servder with ntp. i'am using ubuntu 12.04.4 lts13:34
tomixxx3i always get "no server suitable for synchronization found"13:34
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sputnik13tomixxx3: did you set up ntp?13:35
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tomixxx3sputnik13: what do yu mean? i have installed it13:35
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exed_@sputnik13 we have GRE running on all the other subnet i think i can use VLAN for a new subnet, that was actually my question. i don't want to change all of the infrastructure :)13:36
sputnik13tomixxx3: just installing might work if the defaults work13:36
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sputnik13tomixxx3: check /etc/ntp.conf and look for lines that start "server"13:36
sputnik13tomixxx3: make sure you can ping out to those servers13:36
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tomixxx3sputnik13: ok, i will try to ping the following servers: 0.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org till 3.13:37
sputnik13exed_: oh i c, yeah no idea about whether GRE and VLAN can coexist, although I can't think of a technical reason they can't13:37
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Sam-I-Amsputnik13: i think ML2 supports multiple network types at once13:38
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tomixxx3sputnik13: i can ping 1.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org for example, but i get the same error13:39
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sputnik13Sam-I-Am: cool13:39
sputnik13tomixxx3: how are you getting the error?13:40
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exed_@sputnik13 if i understand it correctly i need to setup the vlan id on the switch for the external devices and map it to the vlan id of the subnet - right?13:40
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tomixxx3sputnik13: sudo ntpdate -d 1.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org13:40
sputnik13exed_: yes and no13:40
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tomixxx3sputnik13: however, sometimes i cannot ping the servers it seems and sometimes it works13:40
tomixxx3sputnik13:13:40
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sputnik13exed_: if you're using access ports and the devices/hosts are not vlan capable or not configured to use vlans then yes you need to configure the switch port13:41
sputnik13exed_: otherwise if your device is vlan capable and is configured for vlan you need your switchports to be trunk ports for those vlans13:41
sputnik13I prefer the latter, it makes my switch configuration much simpler13:41
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exed_@sputnik13 yes i would also prefer to use that i think the devices aren't able to use VLANs. :(13:42
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sputnik13tomixxx3: try a different address then, http://www.pool.ntp.org/en/13:43
sputnik13tomixxx3: you can find the set that's closest to you, I use 0.us.pool.ntp.org13:43
sputnik130,1,2,313:43
tomixxx3sputnik13: no server works it seems...13:44
sputnik13:(13:44
tomixxx3sputnik13: not even the closest13:44
sputnik13and you can ping?13:44
sputnik13i.e. it's not a dns resolution issue13:44
tomixxx3sputnik13: sometimes ping work, sometimes i loss packets13:44
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sputnik13tomixxx3: sounds like you might have a more fundamental problem then, I'd verify the network interfaces and paths first if it were me13:45
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sputnik13tomixxx3: also, those addresses have multiple hosts, so realize that between each ping you're hitting a different server...  if you're actually losing random ping packets to a single server that could be an issue with networking13:46
tomixxx3sputnik13: no, i dont lose them to a single server. either ping "XY" works completely or not even one packet is sent13:46
sputnik13tomixxx3: ping 8.8.8.8 or google.com and verify you get consistent responses13:46
tomixxx3sputnik13: yeah, network is working!13:47
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tomixxx3sputnik13: do i have to change "server" in ntp.conf when i try "ntpdate" commands?13:48
sputnik13tomixxx3: ok, then that rules out your direct connections...  if you're behind a firewall make sure you're allowing UDP port 12313:48
sputnik13tomixxx3: I do not believe that you have to do that, I could be wrong13:48
tomixxx3sputnik13: am behind a university router13:48
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tomixxx3sputnik13: how can i check if port 123 is open?13:49
sputnik13tomixxx3: are you nat'd?13:49
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tomixxx3sputnik13: yes, i guess13:49
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sputnik13I don't think NTP works over NAT13:51
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Sam-I-Amit works over nat, but only in one direction13:52
sputnik13I'm probably wrong13:52
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tomixxx3i dont know exactly, if iam NATed13:53
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Sam-I-Amwhat IP are you using?13:53
sputnik13tomixxx3: is your IP the same as what you get back from https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=my+ip+address&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-813:53
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tomixxx3but if ip from http://www.getip.com/ is the same as ip of "ifconfig" , i guess iam NOT nated?13:54
sputnik13tomixxx3: correct13:54
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tomixxx3sputnik13: ok, iam NOT NATed then13:55
sputnik13tomixxx3: then my next guess would be firewall13:55
tomixxx3sputnik13: which firewall? does ubuntu 12.04.04 lts has a firewall per default?13:55
Sam-I-Amubuntu doesnt13:56
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sputnik13tomixxx3: ubuntu doesn't by default13:56
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sputnik13tomixxx3: do a tcpdump on one window while doing ntpdate on another13:56
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sputnik13tomixxx3: if your packets are going out but nothing is coming in then it's possible the responses (or the requests) are getting dropped13:57
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tomixxx3what is the command for "tcpdump"?13:57
sputnik13sudo tcpdump -i any udp port 12313:57
tomixxx3ok13:57
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tomixxx3sputnik13: did one run. this is the output of tcpdump: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7044225/13:59
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sputnik13tomixxx3: yeah, you're not getting any responses14:00
sputnik13tomixxx3: just for kicks, do sudo iptables -F and rerun the test14:00
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tomixxx3command was: sudo ntpdate -u 0.at.pool.ntp.org14:00
sputnik13that would flush any iptables rules14:00
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tomixxx3sputnik13: have done it, same result14:02
tomixxx3i always get: " no server suitable for synchronization found "14:02
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sputnik13tomixxx3: ask your campus IT or helpdesk whether they block NTP, and if so whether they have a campus local NTP server14:02
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tomixxx3sputnik13: ok14:03
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tomixxx3can i go on with openstack installation while iam waiting on this NTP issue? ^^14:13
sputnik13tomixxx3: I don't see why you need to wait14:14
Sam-I-Amjust make sure the clocks are close14:14
sputnik13tomixxx3: are you doing a multi-node?14:14
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tomixxx3yeah multi-node14:14
tomixxx33 nodes14:14
sputnik13tomixxx3: you could also set one of your nodes to be the ntp master, and point the other guys to it14:14
sputnik13then they'll at least be in sync with each other14:14
tomixxx3sputnik13: THIS is what i want all the time14:15
sputnik13tomixxx3: if that's what you want, then...  do it :)14:15
tomixxx3controller node is master and compute1 and compute2 get time from it14:15
sputnik13ok, so, why not do that?14:15
tomixxx3sputnik13: the problem is, that the nodes (compute1 and compute2) get the same14:15
tomixxx3error14:15
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sputnik13with what command14:15
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tomixxx3sputnik13: respectively, they do not adapt their time14:15
tomixxx3sputniks13: i mean, if i dont get the synch error, they do not adapt their clock time14:16
sputnik13ntpdate -d controller?14:16
sputnik13http://www.borngeek.com/2008/04/03/using-ntp-on-a-private-network/14:16
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tomixxx3ntpdate -d controller -> no server suitable for synchronization14:17
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sputnik13look at the link above and make sure you have your controller and clients set up accordingly14:18
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tomixxx3but i dont understand, i followed the most recent, official installation guide: http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/basics-ntp.html14:19
tomixxx3and it does not work14:19
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tomixxx3but i will try it according to this link... sounds more "detailled"14:20
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sputnik13only detail in the link I pasted is how to restrict what can query your controller14:21
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sputnik13you're using your controller's IP?14:21
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sputnik13when you do ntpdate -d <controller>14:21
tomixxx3yes14:21
sputnik13and you verified that ntpd is running?14:22
sputnik13ps -ef | grep ntpd14:22
tomixxx3on which machine should ntpd run?14:22
sputnik13everything14:22
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tomixxx3on the client, in the ntp.conf file, the only "server" is "controller"14:23
tomixxx3the client can ping the "controller"14:23
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sputnik13and ntpd is running14:23
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sputnik13on controller14:23
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tomixxx3ok ntp running now on client and on server14:24
tomixxx3now, if i do "ntpdate -d controller" on client i get "no server suitable for synchronization"14:24
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tomixxx3strata too high14:25
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tomixxx3ok, i adjusted clock time on client and server to be close14:27
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tomixxx3on client, it said "timestamp too far in the future: Mar 6 16:26:01 2014" when i called "sudo service ntp restart"14:28
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tomixxx3is this good?14:28
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sputnik13when you do sudo service ntp restart after the manual clock adjustment does it give you that error?14:29
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tomixxx3yes14:30
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sputnik13did you try ntpdate -u <controller> ?14:30
tomixxx3controller in brackets?14:30
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sputnik13no, your controller's IP in place of <controller>14:31
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tomixxx3yeah, i have tried it14:31
sputnik13ok, I'm stumped14:31
tomixxx3again and it says "strata too high" "no server suitable for synchroniation found"14:31
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tomixxx3:(14:32
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tomixxx3i dont understand this14:32
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tomixxx3but if u guys mean it is ok to go ahead wihtout this ntp thing, iam fine with that...14:32
sputnik13brush up your googlefu and figure out what's going on14:32
sputnik13:)14:32
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tomixxx3i have googled already14:33
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sputnik13http://serverfault.com/questions/407276/single-ntp-server-on-isolate-network14:33
zendHi, All! I have a question :-) It is sufficient to install only Identity service + Image service + dashboard + compute on one machine and compute node on other? :-)14:34
tomixxx3however, if i do "ntpq -pn" i get controller-ip with some data: .INIT.   16  u   3    64      0    0.000    0.000   0.00014:34
tomixxx3(on client)14:34
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sputnik13sorry, I'm out of ideas, I need to get working on my own stuff now14:34
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tomixxx3sputnik13: ok ty14:35
sputnik13if you manually set your clocks to be pretty close, then I don't think there should be any problems14:35
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zendI am walking through openstack manual ("openstack installation guide for RHEL, CentOS, Fedora"), and after step 5, "Configure a Compute node" i didn't see any hypervisors in dashboard :-(14:39
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sputnik13tomixxx3: np, good luck14:48
tomixxx3sputnik13: ty! i will need luck i guess14:48
badamshas anyone ever had rabbit switch ports on a reastart?14:49
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tomixxx3oh i got a response from the uni admin: he give me a ntp-server address of our university14:56
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tomixxx3yeeepi it works15:03
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arcimboldoHi all: I'm running Folsom and I have a problem: instances cannot access other instances' Floating IP.15:03
sputnik13tomixxx3: sweet, gl with rest of install ;)15:03
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tomixxx3sputnik13: ty :-)15:04
arcimboldoI see it's a known problem, but I would like guidance to find what's the best solution for me, since I cannot upgrade the production cloud15:04
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jrbudnackhello folks - I have a neutron l3 question:  Has anyone had a problem with packets being dropped on the return route to a VM?  I'm able to ping externally, even initiate ssh connections - but when it comes to doing anything with ssh, or even trying http, I can't seem to get it to work15:32
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atpa8agot openstack running here without cinder for now... CirrOS starts fine, neutron is working fine... ubuntu 12.4 LTS doesn't even get to booting... is this something known that i'm missing... googling didn't give me much15:46
atpa8ado ubuntu images need cinder?15:47
sputnik13atpa8a: are you using a cloud image15:48
atpa8ayup15:48
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atpa8aqcow2 one15:48
jrbudnackatpa8a: by default, booting from an image should just create an instance in /var/lib/nova/instances15:48
sputnik13how do you know "neutron is working fine"? did cirros dhcp for its IP and is it able to reach the internet?15:49
atpa8ayup15:49
atpa8acirros gets IP and i can ssh in15:49
sputnik13you said it "doesn't even to to booting"15:49
atpa8ayup15:49
sputnik13does it fail during bootstrap?15:49
sputnik13i.e. it errors rather than going active15:49
atpa8aproduces no log15:49
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sputnik13it produces a log, you might not be looking in the right place15:50
atpa8aone line and state is ERROR15:50
atpa8astatus rather15:50
sputnik13what flavor are you using?15:50
sputnik13the ubuntu image requires something with a larger boot volume than m1.tiny has15:50
atpa8atiny15:50
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sputnik13try m1.small or m1.medium15:50
atpa8areally?15:50
sputnik13yes15:50
atpa8aok...15:50
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sputnik13you can actually set an attribute on an image when you import it to tell ostack to require a minimum boot disk size, so errors like what you saw would result in a more friendly error message15:51
atpa8ai don't have a 20G on this box yet...15:51
sputnik13if you look in the nova scheduler log it'll tell you why it failed to boot15:51
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sputnik13check /var/log/nova/scheduler.log15:51
sputnik13on your controller15:51
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atpa8aempty...15:52
atpa8anova-scheduler.log15:52
sputnik13but yeah, I've seen that very problem before and it's because of the flavor's boot volume not being big enough15:52
sputnik13if it's completely empty there may be other things wrong15:52
atpa8awhat's the minimum if you know?..15:52
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sputnik13but there should be an entry for the vm somewhere in /var/log/nova15:52
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sputnik13do a grep for the uuid in /var/log/nova/*15:53
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sputnik13if there's nothing, then you're possibly on the wrong server (assuming you have a multi-node setup)15:53
sputnik13minimum size to the best of my recollection is 4gb15:53
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atpa8ain nova-compute.log15:53
atpa8asingle node15:53
sputnik13let me see if I can see the attribute in my environment15:54
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atpa8aok... let's lee... i've 8.8G here...15:54
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sputnik13atpa8a: hmm, tiny has a 4gb root disk, try small15:55
sputnik13you don't have to have 20gb free to instantiate a vm with a 20gb disk15:56
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sputnik13sparse provisioning is used by default15:56
sputnik13I don't know if you can do non-sparse for instance images actually15:56
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atpa8aoh?15:58
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atpa8a2GB flavor fails...15:59
atpa8anow...15:59
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atpa8ain Dashboard log i get: Unable to get log for instance "44cfb551-bfe2-4cbf-b5a9-1853e9c51304".15:59
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sputnik13grep for that uuid in /var/log/nova/*15:59
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atpa8ain nova-compute.log i get python exception  'InstanceNotFound: Instance instance-00000007 could not be found.\n'16:00
sputnik13try a recursive grep from /var/log16:01
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sputnik13sorry that's my lazy way of saying grep through all of the ostack logs16:01
sputnik13:)16:01
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sputnik13any time I've had failures to boot I've been able to find sufficient clues in the logs16:01
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atpa8a*now* we have something in the nova-scheduler.log!16:02
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atpa8aand just as you said it's Instance type's disk is too small for requested image.16:03
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atpa8ayou da man!16:05
atpa8athanks a bunch!16:05
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atpa8aloving openstack btw!..16:07
atpa8avery good job16:07
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sputnik13atpa8a: yw16:08
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sputnik13yeah ostack's working fairly well16:08
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atpa8awhat's the login for that ubuntu image?.. i did set "Admin Password" when launching (in Dashboard)16:11
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atpa8ahmm16:14
atpa8akey?..16:14
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sputnik13atpa8a: you have to have an ssh keypair16:16
atpa8ayup16:16
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atpa8agot in16:16
atpa8asweet!!!16:16
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sputnik13if you want to set the password, I haven't seen "Admin Password" work yet16:16
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sputnik13you can always use a script to set the password16:17
sputnik13when you're launching the last tab lets you enter commands to be run as a post-install step16:17
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sputnik13you can paste in a bash script or a set of commands16:17
atpa8aoh! that's what it's for?.. nice!16:17
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atpa8ais there a "secure" way to set/change password for keystone users? without --pass parameter?16:17
sputnik13well, it's not "for" setting passwords, but it works16:17
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sputnik13through the dashboard?16:18
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atpa8aanything16:18
sputnik13I don't know about cli16:18
sputnik13why isn't cli secure?16:18
sputnik13what do you mean by "secure"?16:18
atpa8adidn't see an option to change password in dashboard...16:18
sputnik13it's under user settings16:18
sputnik13on the top right16:18
atpa8alet me see again...16:18
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sputnik13if you don't see a password change panel on the left of user settings your dashboard is possibly using keystone api v316:19
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sputnik13another problem I ran in to16:19
atpa8agot it16:19
atpa8anice!16:19
sputnik13you can force it to use v2.0 and that will get the password panel up16:19
sputnik13but you lose access to v3 features like user groups16:19
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sputnik13user groups is less critical to me than self service passwords so I took that trade16:20
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atpa8ano16:20
atpa8agot it16:20
atpa8astill just find my way around16:21
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jrbudnackheh - per my previous question:  it was the MTU going through the gre tunnel.  small nuance - big annoyance16:21
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sputnik13atpa8a: no worries, there's a lot of stuff to wade through16:22
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sputnik13jrbudnack: MTUs are the bane of my networking life16:22
sputnik13jrbudnack: amazing how many things fail silently with MTU mismatch16:22
atpa8awas looking for just some better UI for my KVM box :) wound up with openstack installation :)16:23
sputnik13atpa8a: don't like virsh?16:23
Fodi69ubuntu16:23
atpa8asputnik13: don't like virt-manager16:23
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atpa8abut it's so convenient sometimes16:24
sputnik13atpa8a: that wasn't my question :)16:24
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atpa8aso needed an easy way to get to vnc consoles...16:24
atpa8a:)16:24
sputnik13virsh is pretty handy for one node setups, although if GUI is a priority for you that's not going to work16:24
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sputnik13atpa8a: well, good luck :)16:25
atpa8ais it using KVM if it reports hypervisor type QEMU?16:25
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defrostrhow do i specify exact what i want the dmi uuid of an instance to be when booting it in openstack grizzly?16:29
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atpa8a-woohoo :) irssi'ing from an instance16:35
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atpa8a-gotta figure out DNS stuff...16:36
favrecranyone has seen this solved in Grizzly, https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1223469  ?16:37
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sputnik13atpa8a: I believe as of the havana repo, at least on ubuntu 12.04, they call kvm qemu-x8616:47
sputnik13or something like that16:47
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atpa8a-say... my int-net is 10.10.20.0/25... my ubuntu instance gets 10.10.20.3 and it sets 'nameserver 10.10.20.2' in resolv.conf... 10.10.20.2 is pingable from the instance but where does it come from?.. do i need to configure some kind of DNS service there?16:49
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atpa8a-sputnik13: thanks!16:49
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sputnik13atpa8a-: that .2 is likely your dhcp server set up by openstack for each subnet16:54
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atpa8a-sputnik13: looks like it...17:04
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atpa8a-are there configuration options?.. for neutron?17:04
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sputnik13atpa8a-: you can set the dns servers passed back by dhcp17:12
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sputnik13if you want to specify dns servers17:12
badamshas anyone experienced rabbit switching ports after a reastart?17:12
sputnik13but why bother if it works17:13
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Gamekiller77good day all having problems getting new neutron-server service to start on a new setup.  i keep getting DB version info not found17:14
Gamekiller77neutron-db-check: ERROR: unable to find version information for the neutron database. Check your logs for additional information.17:14
atpa8a-oh?.. looking17:14
atpa8a-thanks17:14
Gamekiller77and there no logs17:14
atpa8a-hmm17:14
Gamekiller77if i run the command via the command line it fine as the neutron-db-check is bypassed17:14
larsksGamekiller77: Are you upgrading from a previous install?17:14
Gamekiller77so i was17:15
Gamekiller77grizzly to havana17:15
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Gamekiller77but i starting over17:15
Gamekiller77new DB17:15
Gamekiller77clean nothing in it17:15
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Gamekiller77if i run the it form CLI17:15
Gamekiller77the db fills17:15
Gamekiller77i see the version control table17:15
Gamekiller77but nothing in the field at all17:15
larsksOkay.  So, the way neutron handles database upgrades is kind of wonky vs. everything else, so the init script is trying to make sure it doesn't corrupt your database.17:15
Gamekiller77yes but there no DB17:16
Gamekiller77so it should be like a clean install17:16
Gamekiller77on schema in place17:16
Gamekiller77no*17:16
larsksRight.  But neutron is wonky in how it handles database versioning and does not add the correct information...so you need to do that manually.  Just a sec...17:16
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larsksTry: neutron-db-manage --config-file /etc/neutron/neutron.conf --config-file /etc/neutron/plugin.ini stamp havana17:17
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Gamekiller77ok let me try that17:18
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Gamekiller77btw i have yet to see that documented any where good17:18
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Gamekiller77where you find that info larsks17:19
Gamekiller77also i am seeing this a lot too17:19
Gamekiller77No handlers could be found for logger "neutron.common.legacy"17:19
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Gamekiller77have not looked in to it to much17:20
larsksThat's okay.17:20
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Gamekiller77larsks, as always thank you17:21
Gamekiller77i should have production up in next month or so17:22
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larsksGamekiller77: What distribution are you running?17:22
Gamekiller77i just switched to RH Platform 417:23
Gamekiller77i finally got access to it17:23
larsksAh.  And if you look in /var/log/messages, do you see any additional messages related to the neutron startup?17:23
Gamekiller77no not at all no log file at all17:24
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Gamekiller77never gets that fare17:24
larsks...are you saying /var/log/messages does not exist?17:24
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larsksBecause that would be weird.17:24
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Gamekiller77no sorry17:24
Gamekiller77neutron.log17:24
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larsksRight.  That script that produced that "unable to find version information" message should have logged additional information to /var/log/messages.17:25
larsksDO you see it there?17:25
Gamekiller77let me look17:25
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atpa8a-hmm17:26
Gamekiller77same line as above17:27
Gamekiller77that error output i get on the cli17:27
Gamekiller77nothing else i can see17:27
atpa8a-is dhcp_domain only set in dhcp_agent.ini?..17:27
larsksHmm.  Have you already run the neutron-db-manage ... stamp command?17:27
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larsks...because if not, there's something I'd like to check, but otherwise, no worries.17:28
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Gamekiller77larsks, funny thing i do not need the sql connect line in neutron.conf17:29
Gamekiller77as long as my plugin for ova is setup with a DB it looks fine17:29
Gamekiller77but i thought i needed a DB for both17:29
larsksThat's correct.17:29
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Gamekiller77ok so OVS just need a DB17:30
Gamekiller77as plugin agent17:30
larsksGamekiller77: So, I am directly responsible for the fact that the init script won't start up neutron without versioning information in the database. The alternative was corrupt databases on upgrades.  But the database ought to get created correctly in the first place...did you deploy using packstack? Or something else?17:30
Gamekiller77larsks, i deployed manually17:31
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Gamekiller77with config control via puppet17:31
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Gamekiller77just standard yum install17:31
Gamekiller77package name17:31
larsksOkay. Yeah, it's hard to do The Right Thing in that case.  Really, neutron should take care of this all by itself by the project still has a little catching up to do with respect to how database versioning is handled.17:32
Gamekiller77ok good to know17:32
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Gamekiller77i reach out to the dev team here on site i think the write a lot of code for this17:32
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Gamekiller77ok i see my problem my plug in file is pointing to the wrong OVS db17:35
Gamekiller77must of typed it in wrong on the puppet config file17:36
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atpa8a-sputnik13: just FYI... the dhcp (10.10.20.2 in my case) does appear in port-list and port show17:38
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atpa8a-is it heat that should allow me to run some instances before others?..17:47
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Gamekiller77so you trying to say instance A starts before instance B17:53
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atpa8a-something like that...17:57
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atpa8a-i used to run whole bunch of services in KVM host... dns, ldap, kerberos over ldap, samba over ldap, nfs4 with kerberos, etc.17:59
atpa8a-would love to move that into an instance17:59
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atpa8a-tho gotta review how openstack does that firs (naturally)17:59
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EmpowerNeHello everyone, I want to talk with you about a way to have a blog and make money from it from your home without selling products or thing like this . That`s why I invite you to watch the video to learn more. winblog.fr/?id=empirecroteau18:06
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larsksSam-I-Am annegentle: Hey, it works!18:08
annegentlelarsks: WOO! I hadn't thought to test it yet18:09
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annegentlelarsks: hurrah18:09
larsksSo much nicer.18:09
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Sam-I-Amlarsks: woohoo! thanks for the patch18:20
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badamshas anyone experienced rabbit switching ports after a restart? i can't seem to get it to stop doing so.18:37
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Gamekiller77no i have not but i had a node remove it self form a closer and say it the master18:43
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Gamekiller77and a full rebuild still keeps saying that18:44
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ssouHi all, I have a general openstack installation question.  I'm trying to get Icehouse on SLES 11.3, and following instructions from here http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/install-guide/install/zypper/content/basics-packages.html.  But, poking through the SLES repository, I don't see a SLE_11_SP3 directory for Icehouse.  There is one under Staging, however.  Not sure which repo to use at this point18:48
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viktorkHello, can anybody guide me on metadata and possible namespace problem19:19
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viktorkI have nova-compute 's and nova-api setup split on two machines19:21
viktorkand nova-compute's can't reach 169.254.169.25419:21
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PEPPERONIEviktork: are you running any firewalls?19:21
viktorkso I added DNAT and nova-compute machine works19:22
viktorkPEPPERONIE: no19:22
viktorkbut none of the hosted VMs19:22
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viktorkso I then noticed that nova-compute host does not have any namespace19:23
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viktorkand VMs just fail to reach NAT'ed IP (169.254...) although there is DNAT in place19:25
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viktorkso question is - do I need namespace on nova-compute nodes, and if I don't how do I make metadata to work from VMs19:26
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dividehexWould anyone know how to forcefully remove an instance that failed during build?  It is a baremetal instance and it failed because the disk size stated in the flavor exceed what was available on the hardware19:27
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dividehexI've tried nova force-delete but it refuses with "ERROR: Cannot 'forceDelete' while instance is in vm_state building (HTTP 409)"19:28
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dividehexi would just delete it directly from the instances table but I'm not sure if there would be side effects to doing that19:29
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ywuviktork, are you using nova-network or neutron?19:32
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viktorkywu: neutron19:33
viktorkhavana release19:33
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ywuviktork, you can take a look at this link: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/openstack/dev/3486419:36
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viktorkywu: I just did19:36
viktorkywu: I have service_neutron_metadata_proxy=True and shared secret19:37
ywuviktork, regarding of namespace, take look at mirantis link: http://www.mirantis.com/blog/identifying-and-troubleshooting-neutron-namespaces/19:37
viktorkywu: but not isolated network since I use VLANs' that are shared19:37
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Gamekiller77larsks, i now see a new error in messages19:42
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viktorkywu: I don't have neutron-l3 enabled19:42
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djmitcheso I guess the other option for dividehex is, how can an instance that's stuck in vm_state building get bumped out of that state?19:43
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djmitcheis there an API-ish way to do that, or just change the state to 'error' or something in the DB?19:43
dividehexdjmitche: yes.  even if I could move it to a state that could be deleted; that would be helpful19:44
rcallawahi folks - anyone know when acceptance notifications go out for speaking proposals for atlanta summit?19:44
larsksdividehex: Coming late to this conversation; does "nova reset-state" work on this instance?19:45
viktorkywu: also I only run neutron-openvswitch-agent on the nova-compute nodes19:46
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dividehexlarsks:  yes, it does reset the status to ERROR but force-delete still fails to remove it19:46
ywuviktork, are you using ml2 plugin?19:47
viktorkywu: yes19:47
ywuviktork, which services did you enable on network node?19:47
larsksdividehex: Bummer. :/19:48
larsksdividehex: Which version of openstack is this?19:48
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dividehexlarsks: havana19:48
larsksdividehex: thanks.19:49
viktorkywu: I have neutron-server neutron-dhcp-agent neutron-metadata-agent neutron-openvswitch-agent19:49
viktorkywu: also nova-api ,conductor, scheduler etc..19:49
dividehexlarsks: success actually.  instead of force-delete, i used delete19:49
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larsksHah :)19:49
dividehexlarsks: that reset work :)19:49
dividehexthanks!19:49
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ywuviktork, I used this link to understand how metadata works with neutron. http://techbackground.blogspot.com/2013/06/metadata-via-quantum-router.html19:57
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viktorkywu: OK, I don't have l3 and qrouter's, how can I insert iptables rules then?20:03
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yidclareis there an IRC channel for Heat discussion?20:22
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yidclareopenstack-heat seems pretty much empty, wondering if there is something else20:23
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PEPPERONIEyidclare: If you hang out in here, someone smarter than me can probably help you with heat :)20:24
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yidclarePEPPERONIE: thanks20:27
larsksyidclare: What sort of heat questions do you have?  There is a #heat channel where the devs hang out, but that's mostly for development discussions.  I know a little bit about heat.20:27
avishnoiI need help in understanding the routing for LBaas service with HAProxy20:28
avishnoianybody wants to take a shot at it ?20:28
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yidclarelarsks: cool, thanks.  just some roadmap/blueprint questions.  I'll ping the heat channel20:29
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viktorkywu: thanks for your help20:50
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PEPPERONIEHey all, I keep getting this neutron error:22:58
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PEPPERONIEError: Failed to create network "testnet": Running without keystone AuthN requires  that tenant_id is specified22:58
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PEPPERONIEThe admin_tenant_name is set to "service", just like glance and nova22:58
PEPPERONIESo why is it not enough for neutron?22:59
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