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mstacker | hi everyone. Anyone tryign the new mirantis 4.1 fuel to deploy openstack? | 05:45 |
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mstacker | hi everyone. Anyone tryign the new mirantis 4.1 fuel to deploy openstack? | 05:47 |
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mspreitz | Does OpenStack survive the starting of DST? | 06:20 |
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mstacker | hi everyone. Anyone tryign the new mirantis 4.1 fuel to deploy openstack? | 06:53 |
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mstacker | hi everyone | 07:23 |
mstacker | anyone using mirantis 4.1 fuel to deploy openstack? | 07:23 |
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VivekVC_ | One of my clients want to set up a VM on OpenStack. He is migrating from a physical to a OpenStack environment. In the physical server he is said to have had a raid 5 array. I would like to know if when migrating the application to OpenStack, can I provide him a VM which has a RAID 5 hdd array. | 08:09 |
VivekVC_ | I don't think I can but just wanted to get some feedbacks from the channel. | 08:09 |
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mstacker | hi | 08:31 |
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ntt | Hi. I have a question about openstack horizon/nova/keystone: I have one tenant and 2 users associated (A and B). If A create a vm, B can see it and, equally, if B launch a vm, A can see it. Is there a way to avoid this? Can i create a user that can see just its own instances? | 09:55 |
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VivekVC_ | ntt, What roles have you given the user from which you are logged into Dashboard ? | 09:57 |
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VivekVC_ | Does he have an admin role ? | 09:57 |
VivekVC_ | he/she | 09:57 |
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ntt | VivekVC_: thay are member | 10:00 |
ntt | A and B are members. admin user is Admin | 10:00 |
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ntt | A, B and admin belongs to Project1 tenant | 10:00 |
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VivekVC_ | ntt: A and B will be able to view all VMs in Project 1 tenant | 11:09 |
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ntt | VivekVC_: i would change this. A should see only its own vms, and the same for B. Is this possible? I think i should edit /etc/nova/policy.json file as mentioned here: https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/7182/limiting-vm-access-to-admin_or_owner-in-grizzly/ but i'm using havana and this not works for me | 11:21 |
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VivekVC_ | ntt: policy.json file is where you should looking at. | 11:48 |
VivekVC_ | Can you provide a paste of your policy.json file please ? | 11:49 |
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bma_ | hey | 11:55 |
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bma_ | I have a live cd firewall that i want to make some tests to... is there a way to run it on openstack? | 11:56 |
bma_ | thanks | 11:56 |
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ntt | VivekVC_: http://pastebin.com/pc9AFMaA | 12:06 |
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VivekVC_ | I am sorry can you try another paste bin, it's blocked in my corporate environment. | 12:13 |
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pmatulis3 | where can i get the new feature set for icehouse? | 14:23 |
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mosorio_ | Hi! I'm working with neutron OVS plug-in for VLANs, according with the documentation I should see the phy-br-eth1 and int-br-eth1 but I don't see them when I execute ovs-vsctl show. Any idea about the problem? | 14:49 |
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djoreilly | mosorio_: check the logs, the agent should try to create the connection at startup | 15:00 |
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tomixxx3 | hi, if i try to execute "keystone user-create --name=admin --pass=ADMIN_PASS --email=admin@example.com" as described here: | 15:02 |
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tomixxx3 | i get "Expecting an auth URL via either --os-auth-url or env[OS_AUTH_URL]" | 15:02 |
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tomixxx3 | link zu guide: http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/keystone-users.html | 15:02 |
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djoreilly | mosorio_, you should be seeing one or other of these messages https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/plugins/openvswitch/agent/ovs_neutron_agent.py#L766-L777 | 15:04 |
djoreilly | mosorio_: if it is even getting that far | 15:04 |
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tomixxx3 | ok, i was able to solve this problem by attaching "--os-token" and "--os-endpoint" after "keystone" command | 15:17 |
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mosorio_ | djoreilly I found something. Bridge 2014-03-10 12:06:29.403 19381 ERROR neutron.agent.linux.ovs_lib [req-31e4ccdd-0bcc-42b1-9768-ea588293c1d9 None] Bridge br-eth1 not found. | 15:20 |
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djoreilly | mosorio_: and you created it? | 15:21 |
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mosorio_ | djoreilly Yep # ovs-vsctl add-br br-eth1 # ovs-vsctl add-port br-eth1 eth1 | 15:23 |
mosorio_ | djoreilly I will check if it is down | 15:23 |
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djoreilly | mosorio_: I don't think it matters if it is down or not | 15:24 |
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djoreilly | mosorio_: is your root_helper configured properly? | 15:25 |
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mosorio_ | djoreilly Yep, if i execute sudo /usr/bin/neutron-rootwrap /etc/neutron/rootwrap.conf ovs-vsctl --timeout=10 list-ports br-int I dont have problems | 15:28 |
djoreilly | mosorio_: and what if you execute this https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/agent/linux/ovs_lib.py#L501 | 15:29 |
mosorio_ | djoreilly I'm using openvswitch 2.0.1 maybe that is the problem? | 15:29 |
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djoreilly | mosorio_: possible. | 15:30 |
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mosorio_ | djoreilly sudo /usr/bin/neutron-rootwrap /etc/neutron/rootwrap.conf ovs-vsctl br-get-external-id br-eth1 the output is none | 15:32 |
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djoreilly | mosorio_: try for br-int | 15:33 |
mosorio_ | djoreilly no output | 15:34 |
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mosorio_ | djoreilly I try with non-existent bridge. The output is ovs-vsctl: no bridge named br-eth2 So, the bridge br-eth1 exists | 15:35 |
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djoreilly | so the command should be "sudo ovs-vsctl br-get-external-id br-eth1 bridge-id" | 15:36 |
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mosorio_ | djoreilly the command should be return the id? | 15:45 |
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tomixxx3 | hi, i cannot use environment variables with my keystone commands like those defined in openrc.sh file | 15:45 |
tomixxx3 | content of openrc.sh file. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7068279/ | 15:45 |
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djoreilly | mosorio_: yeah. But maybe v2 breaks that | 15:46 |
tomixxx3 | for example, when i execute "keystone token-get" i get : "WARNING: Bypassing authentication using a token & endpoint (authentication credentials are being ignored). | 15:47 |
tomixxx3 | 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'has_service_catalog'! | 15:47 |
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tomixxx3 | if i define parameters like "--os-username, --os-password" everything works | 15:47 |
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gaud | Hi, I am trying to use the Nexenta driver volume_driver=cinder.volume.drivers.nexenta.iscsi.NexentaISCSIDriver but I have cinder [-] No module named iscsi in my cinder's volume.log | 15:53 |
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gaud | and if I check into the /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/cinder/volume/drivers/nexenta/ directory, I don't see any iscsi directory there | 15:53 |
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mberlin | Hi. I've got a question regarding networking. My machines have a single NIC and I plan to use FlatManager. From the docu it looks like VMs will always be in a private subnet separate from the LAN. | 16:24 |
mberlin | For example, see the traffic flow graphs here: http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-compute/admin/content/libvirt-flat-networking.html | 16:24 |
mberlin | Is it possible to use my LAN subnet for the VMs as well? | 16:24 |
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sputnik1_ | mberlin: neutron or nova networking? | 16:30 |
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mberlin | nova networking | 16:31 |
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sputnik13net | mberlin: k, can't help you, good luck | 16:31 |
mberlin | then I'm taking neutron ;) | 16:32 |
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sputnik13net | mberlin: then you *can* but shouldn't do what you're talking about, at least in my experience (which admittedly is limited) | 16:33 |
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sputnik13net | the way you would go about achieving that is by using flat networking on neutron, but when I did that metadata services and dhcp wouldn't work | 16:33 |
mberlin | the main reason for me is I want to keep things simple and not maintain a second network. VMs should be directly visible in the LAN. | 16:34 |
sputnik13net | without dhcp, obviously no networking, and without metadata services, no cloud-init | 16:34 |
sputnik13net | makes it pretty difficult to use VMs in openstack "out of the box" | 16:34 |
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sputnik13net | mberlin: yeah that was the rationale used by my predecessor to come up with that design, it ended up costing me a week or two of frustration | 16:35 |
sputnik13net | and in the end I just scrapped it and went to having a separate network | 16:35 |
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sputnik13net | you're "simplifying" your network scheme at the cost of adding workarounds for things that should work out of the box with openstack | 16:36 |
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sputnik13net | also, unless you use openstack provided software routers, I don't know whether you can have floating IPs | 16:37 |
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sputnik13net | which to me meant that my tenants couldn't self service themselves as far as allocation of public IPs that get paired to their VMs | 16:37 |
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sputnik13net | if you're using VLAN networking rather than GRE, you can get visibility of the VMs by putting a box on the same vlan | 16:38 |
sputnik13net | as the VMs | 16:38 |
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sputnik13net | which is in fact what I'm doing and it works great | 16:38 |
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mberlin | I'm aiming for a minimal deployment which is only used within the LAN and not by multiple tenants. Basically, VMs should have the same visibility as regular hosts in the LAN. | 16:40 |
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mberlin | IPs should get assigned by the LAN's router and OpenStack shouldn't bother with that at all. | 16:40 |
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sputnik13net | mberlin: well if you want to go that way, good luck, you'll just need to implement pattern shown here | 16:42 |
sputnik13net | http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/section_neutron-single-flat.html | 16:42 |
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sputnik13net | mberlin: when you get IP traffic going, metadata will likely not work unless you NAT traffic for 169.254.169.254 port 80 to the metadata api | 16:43 |
Shaan7 | mberlin: damn I did exactly that setup this weekend, hope I would've got time to blog about it :P | 16:43 |
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Shaan7 | mberlin: and what sputnik13net said ^ is pretty important to get it working. | 16:44 |
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sputnik13net | I *think* nova-api is what fronts metadata api, I didn't get as far as implementing the NAT | 16:44 |
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sputnik13net | another alternative is to still stand up a ostack software router, and provide a static route to all VMs for 169.254.169.254 to the ostack software router | 16:45 |
sputnik13net | or add that route to your network router | 16:45 |
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sputnik13net | the last is what I did as a workaround | 16:45 |
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Shaan7 | iptables works pretty well. Here's what worked for me | 16:45 |
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Shaan7 | sudo iptables -t nat -I nova-api-PREROUTING 1 -d 169.254.169.254/32 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 8775 | 16:46 |
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mberlin | If it's so difficult to realize my envisioned setup, I would rather try a basic, simple FlatDHCPManager setup. | 16:46 |
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sputnik13net | mberlin: well, also realize nova networking is supposed to be deprecated in icehouse, so you might have to make the switch anyway | 16:47 |
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sputnik13net | I was thinking of using nova networking as well but then settled on neutron because of the statement that nova networking will be deprecated | 16:47 |
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nekinie | afternoon | 16:48 |
sputnik13net | I'm actually glad I made that decision now, because it forced me to learn to use openvswitch which I like far more than linux native bonding and vlan now | 16:48 |
sputnik13net | easier to script and automate | 16:49 |
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nekinie | im currently porting ubuntu's openstack packages (sausy-security) to Arch Linux | 16:49 |
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nekinie | keystone is working fine | 16:49 |
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nekinie | but when trying to rung the sync command from glance-manage | 16:49 |
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nekinie | i recive the error message CRITICAL glance [-] <VerNum(30)> | 16:49 |
nekinie | which I cant find a referance to online | 16:50 |
atpa8a | hi there folkes | 16:50 |
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nekinie | dose any one have any ideas? or a direction to a place where i might find the answer? | 16:50 |
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atpa8a | run into an interesting(?) problem... when i just create an instance network (neutron) is all working fine, but if i reboot the node, the instance won't get the IP... is this something known? | 16:52 |
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stus | hi | 16:57 |
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stus | I am trying to get flat networking to behave using nova-network (neutron was a dead end), as it is still there in havana and much simpler for this purpose, but I'm having trouble specifying a custom IP range when creating the network | 16:59 |
stus | I have .100 to .199 of the IP address space available for the flat network, and as nova-manage network create only takes netmask as arguments, I just specified .0/24 and then used nova-manage fixed reserve to limit which IPs are available for OpenStack | 17:00 |
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stus | I can verify using mysql queries that indeed all IPs except .100 to 199 are reserved | 17:01 |
stus | but dnsmasq insists in listening on the .1 IP, which of course breaks everything | 17:01 |
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stus | nova-network does not seem to be aware of the reserved IPs, even though they are flagged as reserved | 17:02 |
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stus | so is dnsmasq | 17:02 |
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stus | Any suggestions on making nova-network use a specific IP address range? | 17:07 |
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andrewbogott | I'm having a weird issue where dnsmasq (when acting as the dns cache for instances) goes through several-minute periods of slowness and throws out a bunch of requests. | 17:52 |
andrewbogott | This causes partial dns outages across many of my instances… by the time I notice and look, everything is working again. | 17:52 |
andrewbogott | Is anyone else seeing that kind of behavior? | 17:52 |
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mwoodson | if i'm running multiple controller nodes with keystone, what token backend should i use? | 18:44 |
mwoodson | i dont' think i can use kvs | 18:45 |
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morganfainberg | mwoodson, correct KVS will not work | 18:45 |
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morganfainberg | mwoodson, in production my company uses SQL | 18:45 |
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mwoodson | morganfainberg: that's really good to know, and probably screwing us | 18:45 |
mwoodson | morganfainberg: thanks | 18:45 |
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morganfainberg | mwoodson, think of KVS as only usable for "testing" | 18:45 |
morganfainberg | mwoodson, it's good if you have exactly 1 keystone process that can consume as much memory as it wants and never restarts | 18:46 |
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mwoodson | the keystone puppet module sets the default to kvs. i'm not sure how i feel about that | 18:46 |
morganfainberg | mwoodson, so, perfect for testing (much faster than sql) | 18:46 |
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morganfainberg | mwoodson, yeah not sure how i feel about that either | 18:46 |
mwoodson | let me change it to sql | 18:46 |
morganfainberg | i think the default we have set as the config option is SQL (e.g. omitting the value means you get sql) | 18:47 |
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morganfainberg | mwoodson, at least as of havana the default is sql | 18:48 |
mwoodson | i'm on grizzly | 18:49 |
morganfainberg | let me check grizzly | 18:49 |
mwoodson | and i think i saw some commits that say it defaulted to sql there | 18:49 |
morganfainberg | yeah grizzly is kvs default | 18:49 |
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morganfainberg | https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/stable/grizzly/keystone/common/config.py#L261 | 18:49 |
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morganfainberg | we changed that for havana | 18:49 |
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mwoodson | ok. i'm going to manually add the option then | 18:50 |
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mwoodson | morganfainberg: i'm not sure i understand that code you pointed to. | 18:52 |
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mwoodson | does that mean that SQL isn't valid in grizzly? | 18:53 |
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mwoodson | morganfainberg: nvm, i see. the kvs is default | 18:55 |
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alokk | Hi guys, need help setting up openstack on a cluster. Here are the details about the cluster and current status of installation. http://paste.openstack.org/show/73050/. please help. | 18:59 |
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jebis | can anyone tell me where I can get the nova-compute packages for version 2013.2(not 2013.2.2) for ubuntu precise? | 19:03 |
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jlo28k | anyone seen 1 gig gre bottlenecks? Multi-node KVM-OVS MLX4 .... Node to node is 10Gig all day but VM's via GRE are sub 1gig any tips appreciated | 19:05 |
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morganfainberg | mwoodson, no, it just means the default in grizzly is different | 19:37 |
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mwoodson | morganfainberg: yeah, after i read it again, i got it. thanks | 19:37 |
mwoodson | i have sql set now, it's performing much better | 19:37 |
morganfainberg | mwoodson, SQL is just fine in grizzly (we've been using essex, folsom, grizzly, etc successfully) | 19:37 |
mwoodson | without odd authorization issues | 19:37 |
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viktork | hello, can anybody tell if there is a command to re-create all tap interface in openvswitch used by dnsmasq | 20:38 |
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viktork | dnsmasq is running, also I'm using neutron if that matters | 20:41 |
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larsks | viktork: There is no command that will do that. In theory restarting all your neutron services should recreate all the necessary interfaces. | 20:48 |
viktork | larsks: thanks, I found that I can disable via 'Admin State' | 20:49 |
viktork | larsks: and that brings all of them up | 20:49 |
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viktork | larsks: I was looking for a command lets say with neutron | 20:50 |
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viktork | another question - is metadata somehow relayed though neutron 'neutron' or in iptables rules needed | 20:51 |
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viktork | i have seprate compute nodes and a controlleter node running neutron server as well and it using VLAN not gre tunnels | 20:52 |
larsks | Metadata access is (generally) handled by a NAT rule in the neutron router namespace that redirects the request to the neutron metadata proxy listening in that namespace, which in turn sends the request to the nova metadata server. | 20:53 |
larsks | That should all be setup automatically by neutron. | 20:53 |
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viktork | ok first question - should be seeing metadata instances on solely compute nodes | 20:55 |
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viktork | because I dont; when I type ip netns - nothing comes out, of course on controller - there are only dhcp namespaces instances | 20:56 |
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larsks | You should only see network namespaces on the neutron network server, not on compute-only nodes. | 20:56 |
viktork | got it | 20:56 |
larsks | There will be one qrouter-xxxxx for each router and one qdhcp-xxxx for each network. | 20:56 |
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viktork | second question is: what creates these NAT (SNAT I assume ) on each compute node? I only run nova-compute on each node | 20:57 |
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larsks | The NAT rules are inside the router namespaces on the neutron server. | 21:02 |
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larsks | (e.g., ip netns exec qrouter-xxx iptables -t nat -S) | 21:03 |
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viktork | but I don't have any qrouters | 21:07 |
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larsks | In that case there may be something inside the qdhcp-xxx namespaces. I'm less familiar with neutron's behavior in that sort of configuration (I always have a neutron router providing external connectivity). | 21:08 |
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viktork | I have nothing inside the namespace | 21:11 |
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viktork | ok, let say I create my own iptables rules | 21:14 |
viktork | which btw I have done already | 21:14 |
viktork | what service proxies the request before it is sent to nova? | 21:15 |
viktork | larsks: you said : neutron metadata proxy listening in that namespace | 21:15 |
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viktork | I have auth_url = http://localhost:5000/v2.0 auth_region, admin_tenant_name ... user and password in the /etc/neutron/metadata_agent.ini | 21:17 |
viktork | but it seem this 'proxy -ing' part doesn't work, nova-api on the other hand listens on port 8775 just fine | 21:18 |
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viktork | grep -v '^#' /etc/neutron/metadata_agent.ini | 21:25 |
viktork | [DEFAULT] | 21:25 |
viktork | debug = True | 21:25 |
viktork | auth_url = http://localhost:5000/v2.0 | 21:25 |
viktork | auth_region = RegionOne | 21:25 |
viktork | admin_tenant_name = service | 21:25 |
viktork | admin_user = neutron | 21:25 |
viktork | admin_password = XXXXXXX | 21:25 |
viktork | nova_metadata_ip = 10.0.22.10 | 21:25 |
viktork | metadata_proxy_shared_secret = metadatapass | 21:25 |
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viktork | I have this service running - but it does not listen to any port: /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/neutron-metadata-agent ........ | 21:30 |
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VonDuke | Has anyone installed openstack controller/compute on any of the mini-pcs (gigabyte brix, intel nuc, etc) and can confirm they are compatible? | 22:01 |
VonDuke | baremetal install | 22:01 |
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viktork | yes | 22:04 |
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VonDuke | which model viktor? I wasn't able to install it on my 54250WYK | 22:08 |
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viktork | I've used mac mini, I know its not a typical brick pc but still works just fine as a controller | 22:11 |
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VonDuke | You setup the Mac-Mini as a baremetal Controller? Nice. I will have to buy them, they are more expensive than the other mini-pcs which is why i opted for gigabyte/intel nuc. | 22:12 |
VonDuke | knowing it works though, I may just go that route. | 22:12 |
VonDuke | did you choose ubuntu or centos? | 22:13 |
sputnik13net | VonDuke: what does the choice of pc have to do with it? | 22:14 |
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sputnik13net | VonDuke: it should work fine on your nuc | 22:15 |
sputnik13net | how are you deploying and what release are you using | 22:15 |
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VonDuke | It doesn't :( I receive hardware incompatible messages when installing havana centos as a controller/compute node. | 22:15 |
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sputnik13net | what cpu? | 22:15 |
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sputnik13net | centos or ubuntu? | 22:16 |
viktork | VonDuke: ubuntu 12.04 lts | 22:16 |
VonDuke | Haswell i5 | 22:16 |
VonDuke | Both give me different issues.. Ubuntu cannot detect my ethernet driver. | 22:16 |
sputnik13net | ubuntu 12.04 lts? | 22:16 |
VonDuke | Centos, says the CPU is not supported | 22:17 |
VonDuke | Yes, 12.04LTS | 22:17 |
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sputnik13net | 12.04.4? | 22:17 |
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sputnik13net | I can install controller on a VM, you should be able to install on a nuc | 22:17 |
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VonDuke | I tried with Fuel 4.1 which uses Ubuntu 12.04 | 22:27 |
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sputnik13net | fuel uses ubuntu? | 22:28 |
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VonDuke | When you create an OS environment, you select Ubuntu or Centos (Havana) | 22:28 |
sputnik13net | huh, i c | 22:29 |
VonDuke | Fuel itself uses Centos | 22:29 |
sputnik13net | right | 22:29 |
sputnik13net | try a bare ubuntu install and deploy devstack to it | 22:29 |
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sputnik13net | if it works, then it's not a hardware issue | 22:29 |
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VonDuke | I was gonna try installing Ubuntu Cloud on it via USB | 22:30 |
sputnik13net | use ubuntu server | 22:30 |
VonDuke | looks like it is the same image | 22:30 |
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sputnik13net | yeah, but there's a "maas" install option | 22:30 |
VonDuke | ubuntu-12.04.4-server-amd64 | 22:30 |
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sputnik13net | and I think there might be something called cloud in there, I haven't been paying much attention recently | 22:30 |
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VonDuke | ok I am trying the server version. The cloud version is 13.10 which has Havana | 22:31 |
sputnik13net | kind of surprising to me that you're saying your ethernet is not recognized, it should have either a realtek or intel PHY | 22:31 |
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VonDuke | Intel e1000e and I choose it, doesnt work. | 22:31 |
sputnik13net | 12.04.4 has havana support, you just add the cloud repo after you install | 22:32 |
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VonDuke | Could I still manage it in my Fuel Dashboard? | 22:33 |
sputnik13net | http://askubuntu.com/questions/151324/how-do-i-install-intel-ethernet-drivers | 22:33 |
VonDuke | or horizon | 22:33 |
sputnik13net | fuel dashboard and horizon are different things | 22:33 |
sputnik13net | horizon yes, it's part of openstack, fuel dashboard I don't know | 22:33 |
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VonDuke | Yeah, Fuel allows me to autoprovision the controller/compute nodes and use PXE to discover them. Looks like the images it uses, do not work but I will confirm that with a manual install. | 22:34 |
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sputnik13net | is this for experiemental/learning or for a production deployment? | 22:36 |
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VonDuke | my home lab :) | 22:36 |
VonDuke | Yeah looks like the Ubuntu server for cloud is for productoin and requires a minimum of 10 servers. | 22:37 |
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sputnik13net | VonDuke: no | 22:37 |
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sputnik13net | VonDuke: that's if you use Juju/MAAS | 22:37 |
VonDuke | I see. | 22:37 |
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sputnik13net | juju/maas is like puppet/cobbler | 22:40 |
sputnik13net | not really, but it's a good rough approximation if you're not familiar with it | 22:40 |
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sputnik13net | I'm using ubuntu 12.04.4 and I have a unified controller and a dedicated compute node | 22:41 |
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sputnik13net | but I'm using openstack-puppet directly to deploy | 22:44 |
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sputnik13net | fuel is a wrapper on top of cobbler and puppet | 22:44 |
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VonDuke | Thanks for all your help guys. | 22:48 |
VonDuke | Looks like 12.04.4 LTS Server is installing fine and detected my hardware. So I can go into the Ubuntu Cloud Archive and install the OS Havana Release. | 22:49 |
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sputnik13net | VonDuke: well, yes and no :) | 22:49 |
sputnik13net | if only it were that easy ;) | 22:49 |
VonDuke | lol | 22:49 |
sputnik13net | installing is the tip of the iceburg, you need to configure it | 22:49 |
VonDuke | Maybe I should have chosen 13.10 then :) | 22:50 |
sputnik13net | which is where puppet or chef comes in | 22:50 |
sputnik13net | no, same issue regardless of 12.04 or 13.10 | 22:50 |
sputnik13net | you can try to hand configure it by following the openstack guides | 22:50 |
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sputnik13net | or you can use puppet or chef | 22:50 |
sputnik13net | there's a learning curve regardless of which of the three you choose | 22:51 |
sputnik13net | but you're not at the mercy of a vendor that has zero incentive to support your consumer hardware configuration | 22:51 |
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VonDuke | any recommendation or is it like pepsi/coke | 22:52 |
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sputnik13net | I think it's pepsi/coke | 22:52 |
VonDuke | personal preference and the right application for the right environment | 22:52 |
sputnik13net | personal preference | 22:52 |
sputnik13net | whatever your religion is | 22:52 |
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sputnik13net | I chose puppet because we have other puppet related things that I'd have to maintain, so rather than learn both puppet and chef I opted to just use puppet | 22:53 |
VonDuke | ah | 22:53 |
sputnik13net | at my previous place the story was the reverse, we had groups using chef so I was going to learn chef but then switched jobs before I got to it | 22:53 |
sputnik13net | :) | 22:53 |
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sputnik13net | pick one and go with it, whatever you choose will be the wrong choice for some reason or another ;) | 22:54 |
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VonDuke | I went to a lunch recently with two engineers from different companies, they had quite a debate of which one was better.. I'm new to this so couldn't speak to it but it was fun listening in | 22:54 |
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sputnik13net | another guy I'm working with came from HP where he did a lot of work with crowbar and he likes it | 22:55 |
sputnik13net | crowbar runs chef | 22:55 |
sputnik13net | if you want something a bit more GUI driven try out crowbar, otherwise I'd just flip a coin | 22:55 |
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sputnik13net | I went through a month or so of trying to decide between puppet and chef and after actually getting in to it, I'm not convinced I gained anything by debating for so long | 22:56 |
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viktork | can anybody tell to what port I should have requests DNAT-ed to have have metadata working? | 22:56 |
VonDuke | Ok, I'll try crowbar. I prefer gui | 22:56 |
VonDuke | I'll end up installing all three though and testing them out as I have 5 boxes here and want to compare/contrast. | 22:57 |
sputnik13net | viktork: someone mentioned that a while back today, search the chat log | 22:57 |
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sputnik13net | viktork: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack/%23openstack.2014-03-10.log | 22:57 |
viktork | sputnik13net: I might not have been in yet | 22:57 |
sputnik13net | viktork: check the title, they have a link to chat logs... didn't realize you were being logged did you? ;) | 22:58 |
sputnik13net | it was Shaan7 at 16:45:58 port 8775 | 22:58 |
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sputnik13net | I don't know if that works, I preferred to use a neutron router and a static route to it from my network router | 22:59 |
sputnik13net | before I abandoned the flat network schema altogether | 22:59 |
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PEPPERONIE | While we're on the topic of neutron (I hope?) | 23:01 |
PEPPERONIE | I have the typical "instance cannot get DHCP lease" | 23:01 |
viktork | sputnik13net: I have a rule that sends requests to 8775 but it seems it doesn't rewrite 'instance-id' | 23:01 |
PEPPERONIE | So my setup uses the same 2 NIC host as a Controller and a Network node | 23:01 |
PEPPERONIE | not sure if it's supposed to have another third one for some reason? | 23:01 |
sputnik13net | viktork: k, I'm no help then, sorry :( | 23:01 |
sputnik13net | viktork: I know, however, that standing up a router on your subnet in neutron and inserting a static route to 169.254.169.254 to point to that neutron router will work | 23:02 |
sputnik13net | PEPPERONIE: are you using vlan networking? | 23:03 |
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viktork | sputnik13net: thanks, I'll creating a router (qrouter) although I don't really need one | 23:07 |
VonDuke | Hrm after install, it just sits there at boot with a flashing cursor. | 23:07 |
PEPPERONIE | sputnik13net: yes allegedly | 23:08 |
PEPPERONIE | I haven't done this before | 23:08 |
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PEPPERONIE | Trying to map to FlatDHCPManager with some future-proofing built in | 23:08 |
sputnik13net | viktork: don't forget the static route in your router | 23:08 |
viktork | sputnik13net: what if I have a DNAT? | 23:09 |
sputnik13net | viktork: that probably works too | 23:09 |
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sputnik13net | PEPPERONIE: are you using this guide? http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/section_neutron-single-flat.html | 23:11 |
sputnik13net | PEPPERONIE: I was able to get DHCP working on a neutron flat network by following that to the letter | 23:12 |
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sputnik13net | I still had issues with metadata which is the point at which I did the static route to 169.254.169.254 | 23:12 |
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viktork | sputnik13net: I have DNAT to :9696 because in /var/log/neutron/metadata-agent.log I see 6 DEBUG neutron.agent.metadata.agent [-] bind_port = 9696 log_opt_values /us | 23:13 |
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PEPPERONIE | sputnik13net: I am currently working through it... but there's a lot of layers | 23:15 |
PEPPERONIE | and it definitely doesn't play nicely with the puppet modules | 23:15 |
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sputnik13net | PEPPERONIE: I'm using puppet to deploy, it's not terribly straight forward at first | 23:17 |
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sputnik13net | PEPPERONIE: are you using the all in one puppet-openstack or the individual service modules? | 23:18 |
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PEPPERONIE | sputnik13net: I'm using the AIO puppetlabs/openstack module | 23:19 |
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PEPPERONIE | and using the controller class in modules/openstack/manifests/controller.pp | 23:19 |
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PEPPERONIE | sputnik13net: thanks for helping, by the way | 23:20 |
PEPPERONIE | you guys are worth your weight in gold | 23:20 |
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viktork | is there a why a can do a custom curl request to check if proxying works | 23:23 |
viktork | something like curl http://10.0.22.10:8775/2009-04-04/meta-data/277b0a1c-2464-492d-9278-98d878d1fd78 | 23:23 |
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sputnik13net | viktork: I'm sure there is... you could try sniffing the traffic from your VM to see what path you should use | 23:27 |
sputnik13net | tcpdump -n -A -i any host 169.254.169.254 tcp port 80 | 23:27 |
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sputnik13net | off the top of my head I think that should work | 23:28 |
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sputnik13net | PEPPERONIE: to the best of my recollection, I think the key was using br-ex:default for openstack::neutron::bridge_uplinks | 23:28 |
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sputnik13net | you have to play with openstack::neutron::bridge_mappings and openstack::neutron::bridge_uplinks to get the correct settings in to the ovs neutron ini file | 23:29 |
sputnik13net | to match what they suggest in that guide | 23:29 |
sputnik13net | it *is* doable, I've done it before | 23:30 |
PEPPERONIE | sputnik13net: So the OVS config file does the heavy lifting as far as the bridge mappings are concerned? | 23:30 |
PEPPERONIE | sputnik13net: I think my real problem is I don't have a correct mapping from physical interface -> br-ex -> br-int | 23:30 |
sputnik13net | from what I can recall, yes... I'm not an expert on it, so don't take my word as fact :) | 23:30 |
PEPPERONIE | Or I'm just misunderstanding the entire flow | 23:30 |
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sputnik13net | the guide I pasted is pretty detailed and complete, and when I got my configs to align to what they suggested it worked | 23:31 |
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sputnik13net | the trick was getting puppet-openstack to spit out the correct config | 23:31 |
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PEPPERONIE | sputnik13net: ok fair enough, also I have Dell boxes so I don't get eth0/eth1 and that added a bit more mental overhead | 23:31 |
sputnik13net | Dell boxes don't get eth0/eth1? | 23:32 |
sputnik13net | what do you mean | 23:32 |
PEPPERONIE | they get em1/em2 | 23:32 |
sputnik13net | that's not so much Dell as the linux distro you're using | 23:32 |
PEPPERONIE | http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/b/techcenter/archive/2011/05/26/meaningful-names-for-network-devices-in-rhel-6-sp1-on-dell-systems.aspx | 23:32 |
sputnik13net | I have Dell boxen as well | 23:32 |
PEPPERONIE | right, it's CentOS | 23:32 |
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sputnik13net | yeah, that annoyed the heck out of me when we went from rhel 5.5 to 6 at my previous job | 23:33 |
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PEPPERONIE | sputnik13net: so why'd you pick Ubuntu for your Openstack rollout? | 23:33 |
sputnik13net | it broke *all* of network configs :) | 23:33 |
sputnik13net | I like Ubuntu :) | 23:33 |
PEPPERONIE | Ah, gotcha | 23:33 |
sputnik13net | personal preference, nothing scientific | 23:33 |
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