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| KaZeR | spent the whole day on it, but my nova-api response time still sucks : "GET /2008-02-01/meta-data/hostname HTTP/1.1" status: 200 len: 172 time: 50.6728220. any pointer? | 01:04 |
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| KaZeR | used to be way, way better : "GET /latest/meta-data/hostname HTTP/1.1" status: 200 len: 172 time: 0.0012691 ( form my 2014-03-01 logs ) | 01:09 |
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| rgodinez | Hi, I'm facing a problem: provisioned VMs are not able to get full metadata. "curl http://169.254.169.254/" gives list of available versions (... 2009-04-04 latest) , but "curl http://169.254.169.254/2009-04-04" gives "500 Internal Server Error" | 05:04 |
| rgodinez | Havana | 05:04 |
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| avi_ | Hi friends, | 06:54 |
| avi_ | i am working on openstack nova | 06:54 |
| avi_ | API's | 06:54 |
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| avi_ | actually i have to write a API which shows tenants for a particular flavor | 06:55 |
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| avi_ | but i am not able to find any function which shows tenants | 06:56 |
| avi_ | can anyone help please | 06:56 |
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| iscsi | avi_: horizon source code can help you | 07:15 |
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| avya | is there a method to list all the tenants for a specifiec flavor | 07:55 |
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| avya | we are working on openstack nova and writing api on python | 07:56 |
| avya | can someone help me out? | 07:56 |
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| zhangjl | Is there anyone deploy openstack nova cells with zeromq? | 08:44 |
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| Akshik | Hi, while launching a instance im getting network_uuids = [uuid for (uuid, fixed_ip) in requested_networks] ValueError: too many values to unpack | 08:44 |
| Akshik | im following http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/ | 08:44 |
| Akshik | and I have 3 node setup[controller, compute and network] | 08:44 |
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| schlitzer|work | hey all, is it possible in openstack/quantum to disable dnsmasq, security policies & the "router"? what i would like to do is: use ovs+vlans, each tenant should get its own vlan. dhcp&dns should be managed outside openstack via icq/bind/dhcpd, the default GW &Firewalling should be managed by physical hardware, security groups have to be disabled, so we can use L2/3 loadbalancing (like lvs) | 08:55 |
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| fragg | A small question, what puppet-manifest is recomended to use if I want to deploy on debian wheezy? | 09:13 |
| fragg | https://github.com/stackforge/puppet-openstack | 09:13 |
| fragg | this one looks promising | 09:13 |
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| daubers | I have a problem with horizon on grizzly. It seems to be looking for information from cinder on the wrong ip address? Keystone has the correct ip set | 11:14 |
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| Snikkt | hey... one quick question.. on openstack installation docs is said "For simple test cases, you can use machines with a single network interface card." | 11:48 |
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| Snikkt | but on compute network configs there are no option to set up only one nic | 11:48 |
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| Snikkt | there's like: | 11:48 |
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| Snikkt | flat_network_bridge=br100 | 11:49 |
| Snikkt | flat_interface=eth0 | 11:49 |
| Snikkt | public_interface=eth1 | 11:49 |
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| Snikkt | any idea how to set them with only one interface or should I create some sort of vpn interface for that purpose? | 11:49 |
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| Akshik | Hi,I have a basic question i have a 3 node setup [controller, compute, and network]. what i want to know is should the nova.conf same across controller and compute | 11:55 |
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| ToM | Has anyone experience doing multi region openstack deployments? | 13:09 |
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| ToM | I understood that Horizon doesn't have support for this but what about the API in general? | 13:10 |
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| Snikkt | I am about to try create one in near future but it remains to see will openstack scale for that | 13:11 |
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| Snikkt | but I haven't really seen any reason why not | 13:11 |
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| ToM | Just couldn't find guide in implementing it :) | 13:12 |
| Snikkt | haven't seen either | 13:12 |
| Snikkt | but since you can migrate and deploy servers via api.. | 13:13 |
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| larsks | ToM: I've done a very small multi-region deployment. I had two Nova regions, although shared keystone/glance/cinder. | 13:18 |
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| larsks | Everything seemed to work just fine from the CLI. | 13:18 |
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| melmoth | anyone knows of a script that would clean _all_ neutron ressources (net,gateway,subnet, the whole stuff, even if it involve destroying running instances) | 13:38 |
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| melmoth | ? | 13:38 |
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| tomixxx5 | hi, what is the difference between block storage and object storage? | 13:38 |
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| melmoth | tomixxx5, block storage is a block device (/dev/sda by example) as a regular disk | 13:40 |
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| melmoth | when you have a block device, you put a filesystem on it, and you mount it, then you can read and open file in it | 13:41 |
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| melmoth | object store is...like a python dictionnary, or a perl hash | 13:41 |
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| melmoth | you have a container, you give it a name. | 13:41 |
| melmoth | and you store key/value pairs in it | 13:41 |
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| tomixxx5 | melmoth: ok, so block storage is "more natural" compared to object store? | 13:42 |
| melmoth | so you dont access it as if it was a filesystem, you need an api to do that, that create container and set /remove keypairs | 13:42 |
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| melmoth | yep, block storage is "as usual", it s also usually more expensive :) | 13:42 |
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| tomixxx5 | melmoth: u mean more expensive in terms of cost? | 13:43 |
| melmoth | in term of money yes. In amazon you have s3 storage (object store) or elastic block device | 13:43 |
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| melmoth | you pay more for elastic block device (i have been told) | 13:43 |
| tomixxx5 | kk | 13:44 |
| melmoth | in openstack, you can implement elastic block storage with cinder. and object store with swift. | 13:44 |
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| melmoth | and. and, you have ceph, that actually does both. | 13:44 |
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| tomixxx5 | if i have already block storage, do i i need object storage? | 13:47 |
| tomixxx5 | because i have no free partiton, because the free partition is used by block store | 13:48 |
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| notmyname | object storage is designed to solve the problem of what happens when you need something that scales more seamlessly than block storage. it abstracts away the storage volumes and gives you a pool of storage | 13:48 |
| notmyname | from the client perspective, you write and read bytes and don't worry about what volume it's on | 13:49 |
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| coredumb | any plan to have glusterfs qemu integration in openstack soon? | 13:50 |
| notmyname | the object storage system protects the data and allows you to deal with hardware failure and do smooth capacity scaling (as a deployer) | 13:51 |
| coredumb | or i missed something and it's done in latest releases already ? | 13:51 |
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| tomixxx5 | notmyname: but block storage is more performant, not? | 13:53 |
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| notmyname | tomixxx5: you can't make that assumption without describing the workload | 13:54 |
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| tomixxx5 | notmyname: workload is as follow: a user uploads a lot of medium-sized txt files and downloads processing results as (medium-sized) xmi files. so max a few hundred lines of characters per file | 13:55 |
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| notmyname | tomixxx5: what's "a lot"? a billion? | 13:57 |
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| tomixxx5 | or let me define or more generic question: i'am installing openstack based on this guide: http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/index.html at the moment, i have installed everything until and incl. point 7.) block storage. which additional services are mandatory to get a working cloud? :-) | 13:57 |
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| tomixxx5 | notmyname: i don't know right now what is " a lot" but i guess it will be as much as disk space available | 13:58 |
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| notmyname | that's kinda like asking what the necessary parts for a car are. it really depends on the problem you are solving. | 13:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | notmyname: howdy | 13:59 |
| notmyname | Sam-I-Am: good morning | 13:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | hows life? | 13:59 |
| notmyname | tomixxx5: swift (ie openstack object storage) is built for large scale and optimized for durability, availability, and high concurrency across the entire data set | 14:00 |
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| notmyname | tomixxx5: block storage is great if you need to mount persistent storage to a VM | 14:01 |
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| hightall | notmyname where r u from? | 14:02 |
| notmyname | hightall: I'm currently in San Francisco | 14:02 |
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| tomixxx5 | notmyname: the user uploads some files and downloads result. so i guess i dont really need persistent storage | 14:03 |
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| hightall | notmyname oh, I'm in China, the time now is 22:03 here. | 14:03 |
| hightall | notmyname: :) | 14:03 |
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| andrewbogott | Anyone about who knows about the ubuntu cloud archive? I'm trying to figure out where/if I can get a package that includes this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/57817/1 | 14:05 |
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| notmyname | tomixxx5: ok, cool. are you clear on the differences in object and block? I can give you some example use cases, if you want | 14:05 |
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| tomixxx5 | notmyname: yes, i guess. but if u have some use cases somewhere, i will have a look at it | 14:07 |
| kbringard | andrewbogott: I think canonical has a testing repo for stable/havana which pulls from trunk and builds new packages when new merges happen | 14:07 |
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| tomixxx5 | the only thing: i have to uninstall block storage and install object storage now. i hope, i will not destroy my cloud deployment :( | 14:07 |
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| andrewbogott | kbringard: ok, I'll look for that. Not happy about using a 'testing' repo on my production cloud, but that bug is… serious. | 14:07 |
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| notmyname | tomixxx5: I wouldn't necessarily do that. depends on what you're using block storage for now :-) | 14:07 |
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| kbringard | yea… I think the "official" packages only update on new drops (2013.2.1, 2013.2.2, etc.) | 14:08 |
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| notmyname | tomixxx5: I think you understand how block storage (cinder) is used. attach block devices to VMs | 14:08 |
| kbringard | but the "testing repo" rebuilds packages as new patches get merged in | 14:08 |
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| tomixxx5 | notmyname: so for now, i should not install object storage? which additional steps of the official guide could i need? (at the moment i have installed 1.) to 7.)) | 14:09 |
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| andrewbogott | kbringard: that patch is documented as having been backported to havana stable… do you know what determines when new drops happen? | 14:10 |
| tomixxx5 | notmyname: at the moment, iam not using the block storage at all. there will only be that one use case (upload many files, processing many files, download many files) | 14:10 |
| tomixxx5 | basically, many quite short files ;) | 14:10 |
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| notmyname | tomixxx5: object storage (swift) is eg used as the place where all images in Wikipedia are stored. it's used for storing and serving video (eg vimeo and crunchyroll). it's used in gaming (spil games and disney interactive). it's used to store receipts for expense requests (concur), its used in edu and research | 14:10 |
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| notmyname | not to mention lots of service providers offering public cloud storage | 14:11 |
| kbringard | I'd have to refamiliarize myself with the release policies of the stable branches, but I think 203.2.2 dropped in the last few weeks, and that was merged at the start of december | 14:11 |
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| kbringard | so I'd wager it should be in the newest packages… I'd have to go to look at what's been released (and I'm just assuming you're running Ubuntu) | 14:11 |
| andrewbogott | It's definitely not present in 2013.2.2 | 14:12 |
| tomixxx5 | notmyname: i should mention, that i want use a map reduce implementation on my cloud to paralize my task | 14:12 |
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| tomixxx5 | notmyname: at the moment, everything is quite abstract, i don't really know what i need, to be honest. i only have that one big image which sounds quite reasonable to me: parallelizing sth with different cloud providers. and one provider is the private cloud openstack | 14:13 |
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| notmyname | tomixxx5: that's another use case I've seen: use swift as a large storage pool for the data, and then pull subsets into a hadoop cluster for processing and store the results in swift | 14:13 |
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| notmyname | tomixxx5: Iv'e got to step away for a bit. good luck to you | 14:14 |
| tomixxx5 | notmyname: ok ty for your time! | 14:14 |
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| kbringard | andrewbogott: sorry, trying to look it up to see if I can help, but not had enough coffee yet :-/ | 14:15 |
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| andrewbogott | kbringard: no problem, I'm not sure how much I actually have a question and how much I'm just complaining :) | 14:16 |
| kbringard | hehe, been there dude | 14:16 |
| andrewbogott | Tempting to just hand-edit my production python files, the fix is so trivial | 14:16 |
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| kbringard | yea, I've actually put patching methods into my deploy systems to patch trivial things on the fly | 14:17 |
| kbringard | for this exact reason | 14:17 |
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| kbringard | https://launchpad.net/nova/havana/2013.2.2 | 14:17 |
| andrewbogott | oh, how do you do it? Does it actually integrate with git, or do you just had a big running diff that you apply? | 14:17 |
| kbringard | so that would be all the bugs which were fixed in 2013.2.2 | 14:17 |
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| kbringard | sadly it the's the latter | 14:18 |
| kbringard | not a big diff, but a few smaller diffs | 14:18 |
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| kbringard | not really sure why this wouldn't be in the 2013.2.2 release | 14:19 |
| andrewbogott | Yeah, the dates don't quite add up. | 14:19 |
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| kbringard | and obviously you've checked the code, and it's not just an accounting error? | 14:20 |
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| kbringard | oh | 14:21 |
| kbringard | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1251152 | 14:21 |
| kbringard | claims it was added in 2013.2.1 | 14:21 |
| tomixxx5 | do i need the openstack network service? i have only a small privat network with 3 nodes | 14:21 |
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| andrewbogott | kbringard: Yeah, I saw that. I don't understand why the change isn't present in my code... | 14:22 |
| andrewbogott | Maybe I'll build a new box just to see if I have some kind of deployment problem | 14:22 |
| kbringard | yea, that's weird | 14:22 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | tomixxx5: You need something to handle the network. Either nova-network or neutron. Nova-network is or will be deprecated so if you're building to learn, learn Neutron. | 14:25 |
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| tomixxx5 | CaptainTacoSauce: at the moment i need a openstack deployment | 14:26 |
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| kbringard | tomixxx5: I would deploy it with neutron, personally, if you have any plans to use OpenStack for even more than a year or so | 14:28 |
| tomixxx5 | kbringard: i need openstack for my master thesis | 14:28 |
| kbringard | it's more work up front, but as CaptainTacoSauce pointed out, neutron is the future, so learning it is a smart move | 14:28 |
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| tomixxx5 | kbringard: so i just want get things fhinished, to be honest :P | 14:29 |
| melmoth | of course you need network sevrice tomixxx5, what the point of having a vm if it s not plugged in any network ? :-) | 14:29 |
| kbringard | well, then I guess you need to decide how it'll best serve your purposes, I can't really tell you that | 14:29 |
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| mpetason | tomixxx5: devstack - thesis release | 14:30 |
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| tomixxx5 | mpetason: no, please i dont want start form zero again :P | 14:31 |
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| tomixxx5 | i have already wasted much time with maas+juju+openstack and now i follow the official guide to get things working | 14:32 |
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| CaptainTacoSauce | tomixxx5: You may have more of a battle ahead of you than you realize. Something like fuel or devstack to do it for you may be the fastest way. | 14:32 |
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| mpetason | tomixxx5: neutron isn't that bad if you start using it, but if you make any mistakes along the way you're going to spend a couple hours troubleshooting errors. you'll probably run into metadata errors, listing security group errors by not setting up firewall_driver in all of the correct places. | 14:32 |
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| mpetason | tomixxx5: devstack is perfect for testing, and it takes less of a setup. if your thesis is on usage you are better off using it, if it's on building a cloud then use the guides with neutron. you'll probably find more guides/help troubleshooting neutron than nova-network with Havana. | 14:33 |
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| tomixxx5 | mpetason: do u have a specific link on devstack? | 14:34 |
| mpetason | tomixxx5: look at devstack, maybe not use it, but look at how it works. it takes a config file and will let you set it up on a single node. That gives you access to most of the services you'll need. | 14:34 |
| mpetason | tomixxx5: http://devstack.org/ | 14:34 |
| tomixxx5 | ok, there is one requirement: i have 3 nodes, so it has to be a mulit-node cloud | 14:34 |
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| tomixxx5 | i guess, in my case, the most straightforward thing is to follow the official guide and install this neutron according the guide... | 14:35 |
| mpetason | tomixxx5: they have a multi node install. | 14:35 |
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| mpetason | http://devstack.org/guides/multinode-lab.html | 14:35 |
| mpetason | it just uses their scripts to do setup based on config files instead of walking through each service install and doing a "production" environment. | 14:36 |
| mpetason | tomixxx5: check it out if you run into issues after following the regular guide :p | 14:36 |
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| tomixxx5 | mpetason: do u mean this guide: http://devstack.org/guides/multinode-lab.html | 14:37 |
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| kbringard | our of curiosity, what is your master's thesis on? | 14:37 |
| mpetason | tomixxx5: yeah that's the one, sounds like you are about halfway through the regular guide though, you may want to finish it out then if you have trouble try out the devstack guide. | 14:37 |
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| mpetason | tomixxx5: if you were only doing single node I would have said try the single node one all the way. | 14:38 |
| tomixxx5 | mpetason: sounds like a plan: try finish official guide, if it not working switch to that devstack guide | 14:38 |
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| tomixxx5 | kbringard: the goal of my masterthesis is to compare multiple cloud providers, including the private cloud openstack | 14:39 |
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| tomixxx5 | ok, the main goal is to parallelize NLP-processing with cloud-computing :-) | 14:40 |
| kbringard | cool, sounds like a fun project | 14:40 |
| kbringard | best of luck :-) | 14:40 |
| tomixxx5 | kbringard: ty! | 14:40 |
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| andrewbogott | kbringard: A fresh install has the patch. So something is messed up with apt, I guess... | 14:51 |
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| kbringard | weird | 14:52 |
| kbringard | glad that got sorted out, though | 14:52 |
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| tomixxx5 | guys, i have a problem. i follow this official installation guide and i wanted to install the "networking service" but i have no dedicated network node with 3 NICs | 14:54 |
| tomixxx5 | so, is this "netwokring service" mandatory at all? | 14:54 |
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| mpetason | tomixxx5: you can install the network services on the controller. | 14:55 |
| mpetason | tomixxx5: you can use two nics. or create subinterfaces. | 14:55 |
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| tomixxx5 | mpetason: but the guide says, i need 3 Network interface cards, i have only two | 14:55 |
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| tomixxx5 | but i don't understand one thing: i have alrady a working "nova-network" configuraiton, why do i need now a total different service for networking? do u know what i mean? | 14:56 |
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| mpetason | tomixxx5: you can use either or, you won't use both. | 14:56 |
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| mpetason | tomixxx5: try it without neutron then, and use the nova-network to test it out. you should wouldn't want to use it in production. | 14:57 |
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| tomixxx5 | mpetason: but i believe and it seems, that nova-networking is quite enough for my purpose, i have only 3 nodes in a single private network. | 14:57 |
| mpetason | tomixxx5: you could do a flat DHCP network. | 14:57 |
| tomixxx5 | in production, ofc, a cloud is spanned over multiple subnets and so one. | 14:57 |
| mpetason | tomixxx5: yeah, you just won't find as much help with nova-network when you are troubleshooting. at least not with havana. | 14:58 |
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| tomixxx5 | the question is, do i have already installed "nova-network" when i followed steps 1.) to 7.) of the official guide: http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/index.html | 14:59 |
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| mpetason | if you installed it on the compute node and configured a network then you should. you can see if you do by doing "nova network-list" | 15:00 |
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| tomixxx5 | mpetason: this is the output of the command u said: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7085087/ so everyhting ok for me, i do not need this neutron? | 15:03 |
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| mpetason | tomixxx5: that means you've got a network setup, you should be able to go on without neutron. I haven't had as much experience just using nova-network though so someone else can chime in. | 15:03 |
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| melmoth | well, i have neutron here and nova network-list also show me stuff | 15:05 |
| melmoth | so it s probably not enough to tell if you are using neutron or nova-network | 15:05 |
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| tomixxx5 | :-( | 15:06 |
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| mpetason | tomixxx5: you said you haven't got to step 9, so you haven't installed neutron yet correct? | 15:07 |
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| tomixxx5 | mpetason: that's correct, i have installed step 1.) till (incl.) step 7.) block storage | 15:07 |
| mpetason | tomixxx5: then you don't have neutron setup | 15:07 |
| newbie__ | programmable infrastructure, neat. | 15:08 |
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| mpetason | tomixxx5: just nova-network | 15:08 |
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| tomixxx5 | ok, but at least i have a network then! :D | 15:08 |
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| tomixxx5 | it's all a bit confusing oO | 15:09 |
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| murkk | using the novaclient library I have an instance i of type, <class 'novaclient.v1_1.servers.Server'> How can I change metadata on the instance? | 15:11 |
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| murkk | I see methods for metadata like items, has_key etc | 15:11 |
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| murkk | but nothing like add or set | 15:12 |
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| verdurin | The file /var/lib/nova/instances/compute_nodes was corrupted by a GlusterFS error. | 15:15 |
| verdurin | Will it be recreated automatically? | 15:15 |
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| bolD | hi guys! can anybody help me with amazon ec2? I'm getting teh foloowing error, when trying to start instance: | 15:54 |
| bolD | cloud-init: initializationcloud-init start-local running: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 15:31:59 +0000. up 6.85 seconds | 15:54 |
| bolD | 2014-03-13 15:32:01,251 - DataSourceEc2.py[WARNING]: waiting for metadata service at http://169.254.169.254/2009-04-04/meta-data/instance-id | 15:54 |
| bolD | 2014-03-13 15:32:01,251 - DataSourceEc2.py[WARNING]: 15:32:01 [ 1/10]: url error [timed out] | 15:54 |
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| gaud | Hi everyone, I am trying to setup netowrking with Neutron. On my compute node, I have my DATA_INTERFACE and I created a bridge for it, my question is , do I need an IP set up for that bridge ? | 16:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | interfaces on the data network (for tenant tunnels) require IPs | 16:05 |
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| gaud | but with that model.. all the traffic getting out or into a VM will pass through the Neutron node ? | 16:09 |
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| gaud | router -> neutron -> compute node -> vm | 16:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it passes through the network node with br-ex | 16:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | but between the network and compute nodes are tunnels | 16:15 |
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| gaud | ok.. so if the neutron machine goes down, no more internet on the vm? | 16:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | br-ex does not need an IP, but needs the ability to handle IP traffic to/from IP addresses on the external network | 16:15 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yes | 16:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | that's where HA comes into play | 16:16 |
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| gaud | ok, i'll make it work for now, HA will come later :) | 16:16 |
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| Sam-I-Am | thats how most people seem to do it | 16:17 |
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| gaud | so on my compute node , I need a br-bond0 with an ip set up for the data network, for example 192.168.3.2, a br-int bridge handled by openvswitch | 16:21 |
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| gaud | and on the neutron node, I need a br-bond2 bridge connected to that data network with an ip set up as well, and no IP setup on bond2 | 16:22 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you're bonding 2 links for the tenant data network? | 16:23 |
| gaud | and same thing with bond0 and br-ex for the external network.. | 16:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | if so, IPs would ride on the bondX interface on each node | 16:23 |
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| gaud | yes | 16:23 |
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| gaud | is that a problem ? | 16:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | br-ex would have a port on bond0 if thats sitting above a couple of eth interfaces | 16:24 |
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| Sam-I-Am | shouldnt be | 16:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | just adds a layer | 16:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | might be more fun to troubleshoot | 16:24 |
| gaud | indeed | 16:24 |
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| tomixxx5 | hi, iam here http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/heat-stack-create.html, trying templates for orchestration service but i get only "ERROR: Template not in valid format" if i try for example: https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/cfn/F17/WordPress_Single_Instance.template | 16:33 |
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| gaud | Sam-I-Am, thanks for your help | 16:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sure | 16:36 |
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| tomixxx5 | ok, it seems to work now, i need the "raw" link. but i get "ERROR: The key (mykey) could not be found". which key do i need here? | 16:41 |
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| tomixxx5 | what is the value for HEAT_KEY, does anyone know? | 16:46 |
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| nekinie | Hey, was just wondering if it was possible to create a private "software only" network between the virtual machines | 16:55 |
| nekinie | no bridiging to any physical adapters | 16:56 |
| nekinie | is that possible? | 16:56 |
| melmoth | should be | 16:56 |
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| kbringard | at some point it would have to hit the physical wire if your VMs on different physical, obviously | 16:59 |
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| kbringard | but if you use something like OVS+GRE, it won't necessarily have to hit a "linux bridge" | 17:00 |
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| nekinie | we have a large single box | 17:00 |
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| nekinie | which were setting up for devs to spin up machines as needed | 17:00 |
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| nekinie | so hopefully no need for wire | 17:01 |
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| nekinie | thanks for the info, more things to google now :) | 17:01 |
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| kbringard | in that case if you use OVS it shouldn't need to go down to the bridge, but if you're using IPTables to enforce the security group rules, then it has to go down there to go through the chains | 17:01 |
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| kbringard | or, I should say, OVS would be the bridge, but it has to leave OVS space to traverse the iptable chains and then come back | 17:02 |
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| nekinie | keeps it cleaner | 17:03 |
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| nekinie | I dont want the mess of bridging to a single physical port | 17:04 |
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| pravka | we've started getting "Timeout: Timeout while waiting on RPC response - topic: "conductor", RPC method: "instance_get_all_by_filters" info: "<unknown>"" on our compute nodes | 17:05 |
| pravka | anyone else seen this issue with computes getting a response from rabbitmq? | 17:06 |
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| pravka | (we're on havana-3, ubuntu 12.04.3) | 17:06 |
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| SoftDed | Hello. I test OpenStack swift and I have problem with upload 10000 small object. Upload speed is very slow. When I upload big files - all is ok | 17:19 |
| SoftDed | How I can increse upload speed mutch small files? | 17:19 |
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| notmyname | SoftDed: (1) use more containers (ie spread across different containers) (2) use more concurrency | 17:21 |
| SoftDed | notmyname: concurrency in proxy server? | 17:21 |
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| SoftDed | notmyname: or object-server? | 17:21 |
| notmyname | SoftDed: no, on the client. upload more things at once | 17:22 |
| notmyname | SoftDed: the reality is that each request has a certain amount of overhead (eg http headers). and so small files will make that more obvious (ie the overhead is a larger percentage of the overall transaction) | 17:22 |
| notmyname | SoftDed: but ya, there may be some things you could tune in your cluster configs to | 17:23 |
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| SoftDed | notmyname: I not can understand where I have bottleneck | 17:24 |
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| SoftDed | notmyname: Proxy-server or object-server... | 17:24 |
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| SoftDed | notmyname: So, A see that object-replicator make very hight load to disk. It is reduces perfomance :( | 17:25 |
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| SoftDed | notmyname: At one time two process load disk. It is object-replicator and object-auditor | 17:26 |
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| notmyname | SoftDed: you can configure them to use less resources on disk. see https://github.com/openstack/swift/blob/master/etc/object-server.conf-sample | 17:28 |
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| SoftDed | notmyname: thank you! | 17:31 |
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| SoftDed | notmyname: During upload file object-server make HEAD request and than make PUT. Why need make this? | 17:50 |
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| notmyname | SoftDed: I need to know more about your setup. tell me about your cluster (how many nodes, etc). what client are you using? | 17:51 |
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| SoftDed | notmyname: Now I have only one server with 12 disk on it. 6 disk I add as "zone 1" and 6 as "zone 2". Client - swiftclient | 17:55 |
| notmyname | SoftDed: ok | 17:55 |
| notmyname | SoftDed: first, no need to have 2 zones there. but that shouldn't affect anything to start with. just put it on the list of things to change later | 17:56 |
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| notmyname | SoftDed: and where are you seeing the HEAD request you were asking about? | 17:56 |
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| SoftDed | notmyname: Hm... HEAD request make "Handoff requested" | 17:58 |
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| notmyname | SoftDed: ok, let me walk through what happens on an upload, and then we can figure out if something is off | 17:59 |
| notmyname | SoftDed: the client will send a PUT request to the proxy server | 17:59 |
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| notmyname | SoftDed: the proxy will look up the account and container info in memcache. if it's not there, it will do a HEAD for the info (ie to account and/or container) | 18:00 |
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| notmyname | SoftDed: if everything is still ok, the proxy will start sending data to the object server (PUT to the object) | 18:00 |
| notmyname | SoftDed: it will read bytes from the client then send those to each storage node | 18:01 |
| notmyname | SoftDed: it will choose 3 storage nodes (assuming 3 replicas). if one of the 1st 3 can't be reached, then it will use a handoff node | 18:01 |
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| notmyname | SoftDed: after all the data is sent to the object server, the object server will issue a PUT to the container servers to update the listing. either way, the object will return success to the proxy if everything was written to disk | 18:02 |
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| notmyname | SoftDed: the proxy will collect the responses from the object servers and choose a response to send to the client | 18:02 |
| notmyname | SoftDed: assuming all is well, it sends back a 2xx series response | 18:03 |
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| SoftDed | notmyname: I thinked, that proxy-server before make PUT to object-server make "Hand off request" for check that file not have on it | 18:04 |
| SoftDed | No? | 18:04 |
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| SoftDed | On my syslog i see to much records about it ( ~40% messages) | 18:05 |
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| notmyname | SoftDed: incorrect. handoffs are only tried (on both read and write) if a primary node connection fails | 18:05 |
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| notmyname | SoftDed: so if you are seeing handoffs, then you need to check your drive health, processes (ie make sure they are running), and check that your configs are correct (ie make sure the rings are right) | 18:06 |
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| SoftDed | notmyname: I see: Mar 13 21:12:19 storage1 proxy-server ERROR with Object server 192.168.18.101:6000/sdh1 re: Expect: 100-continue on | 18:06 |
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| SoftDed | ConnectionTimeout (0.5s) (txn: txdcb4a80443dc40a8aad58-005321e6f2 | 18:06 |
| notmyname | SoftDed: is the object server listening on port 6000? | 18:08 |
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| SoftDed | Yes | 18:08 |
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| notmyname | SoftDed: the proxy is trying to make a tcp connection to 192.168.18.101:6000 and is timing out after .5 seconds. | 18:10 |
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| notmyname | SoftDed: does this only happen under load or does it happen when you just make a single request to the cluster? | 18:10 |
| SoftDed | notmyname: http://paste.org.ru/?mwm1e3 | 18:10 |
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| SoftDed | notmyname: Maybe need to much workers? | 18:11 |
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| SoftDed | notmyname: I see to: Mar 13 22:13:19 storage1 object-server ERROR container update failed with 192.168.18.101:6001/sdg1 (saving for async update later): Timeout (3s) (txn: txf4e4b3ca7c224bb6ae65c-005321f53a) | 18:13 |
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| notmyname | SoftDed: with just one machine, you should be running only one each of proxy, container, account, and object (plus one each of the background). and the worker count for each should be no more than the number of cores you have | 18:14 |
| SoftDed | notmyname: Thank you for you help! | 18:16 |
| SoftDed | I try get more machines | 18:16 |
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| msbrogli | Where can I get some help? I'm trying to add an IDE controller with CDROM to an instance but I can't find how to do it. | 18:27 |
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| msbrogli | I'm trying to add an IDE controller with CDROM to an instance but I can't find how to do it through nova api. I also tried using virsh attach-disk but there isn't any IDE controller available to attach a CDROM into. | 18:52 |
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| larsks | msbrogli: I don't think you're going to be able to do that. While you can certainly attach block storage to an instance, you're not really able to add arbitrary hardware like an IDE controller. | 18:52 |
| larsks | I know there was some work at adding cdrom support to the block-device-mapping stuff, but I believe that got dropped. | 18:52 |
| larsks | However, you can attach a cdrom just like a normal disk if all you want to do is access the data... | 18:53 |
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| msbrogli | Yes, I just want to access the data. The problem is that adding like a disk is that the OS doesn't recognize the filesystem and asks to format it. | 18:53 |
| larsks | If you're using "virsh attach-disk" with your openstack instances you should arguably be using something other than openstack to meet your needs (like oVirt or something, maybe). | 18:53 |
| larsks | What os? | 18:53 |
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| msbrogli | unfortunately, windows | 18:54 |
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| larsks | Hmmm. I do not currently have any windows instances to play with. I am a little surprised that it doesn't just say, "hey look, an isofs filesystem!" and make it available. | 18:54 |
| msbrogli | my host machine is linux, but my instance is windows | 18:54 |
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| msbrogli | yeah, so do I | 18:55 |
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| larsks | This is ugly, but you could mount the cd under linux and extract the files onto an ms-dos formatted device and attach that. | 18:55 |
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| msbrogli | What I'm doing is completely manual: stop the instance, copy /etc/libvirt/qemu/instance-xxx.xml, changing it by hand, virsh create new-instance.xml and doing my cdrom stuff. After that I shutdown the instance and start it again using openstack. | 18:56 |
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| msbrogli | I've thought about it and I'm almost going that way =/ | 18:57 |
| larsks | Yeah. You're a little outside the intended use-case here, I think. I think all the solutions are going to be a bit hacky, unless there's a way to make windows Do the Right Thing. | 18:58 |
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| msbrogli | larsks: If I could add an IDE controller to my instance than I could use nova attach-disk. Do you know if it is possible to do easily? | 18:59 |
| msbrogli | s/than/then/ | 19:00 |
| larsks | Again, this is the Wrong Way, but you should be able to "virsh edit" your instance and add the necessary hardware. | 19:00 |
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| msbrogli | I've tried but Openstack regenerates it every run. | 19:00 |
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| larsks | Right, this would not be a persistent change. I don't think there's any way to get that. | 19:01 |
| cslamar | I am attempting to setup swift and am seeing double port number in the error log for horizon | 19:01 |
| rook_ | hello all, I'm having a problem with PKI tokens with swift-to-keystone. every pki token given by keystone results in a 401 unauthorized with swift. However, if I change the token type to UUID in keystone all works fine. Anyone run into this problem ? TIA! | 19:01 |
| cslamar | http://swift-proxy:8080:8080/... | 19:01 |
| cslamar | Anyone run into similar issues? | 19:01 |
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| notmyname | cslamar: https://github.com/openstack/python-swiftclient/commit/2e1a5b7e28211b0b2e2f7a2f961d7fcbd7e8abe3 | 19:02 |
| cslamar | @notmyname thank you very much! | 19:03 |
| rook_ | @notmyname: Thank you for all the youtube videos! | 19:03 |
| msbrogli | larsks: Thanks for the chat. :) | 19:04 |
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| dhblaz | Is it expected that neutron l3-agent would respond to arp requests generated on the qrouter namespace for floating ips? | 19:38 |
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| kbringard | the agent doesn't do anything other than configure the "devices" designated in your configurations | 19:41 |
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| kbringard | dhblaz ^^ | 19:41 |
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| kbringard | so in the case of floating IPs in the router namespaces, the underlying subsystem (linux in most default cases) will be what responds to the ARP request | 19:42 |
| dhblaz | It appears that if I make arp requests on my external bridge interface (br-ex on my deployment) without a namespace I get arp replies, but I can't find the mechanism that provides these arp replies. | 19:42 |
| kbringard | in the same way it would to any other ARP request | 19:42 |
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| kbringard | the ARP request should make it into the namepsace and your hosts's operating system will reply to it | 19:43 |
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| kbringard | if that's not happening then you likely have an issue mapping your bridges to your qrouters and/or namespaces | 19:43 |
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| dhblaz | Okay, I see the floating ips here in this output: ip netns exec `ip netns list | fgrep qrouter ` ip a | 19:44 |
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| kbringard | right, so, for a concrete example, if you're using openvswitch with GRE tunnels | 19:45 |
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| dhblaz | so I would expect that the linux system would reply to the arp request in the router namespace | 19:45 |
| kbringard | yes | 19:45 |
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| dhblaz | But ip netns exec `ip netns list | fgrep qrouter ` arping -I qg-58817b59-c6 -s <ROUTER IP> <FLOATING IP> | 19:47 |
| dhblaz | doesn't yield the expected result | 19:47 |
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| dhblaz | (I'm using vlans for segmentation, but I wouldn't think that would come into play) | 19:48 |
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| kbringard | I'd start by tcpdmping traffic on the qg interface in the namespace and see if you see the ARP request and/or reply | 19:49 |
| kbringard | then go up a step, to like, the integration bridge, or whatever | 19:49 |
| kbringard | then the physical interface the wire is plugged into | 19:49 |
| kbringard | and see if you can determine where the packets are dying | 19:49 |
| kbringard | that'll give you a better indication as to where your issue lies | 19:49 |
| kbringard | I'd also be sure to use -e and -vv so you'll see the VLAN tag on the packet | 19:50 |
| dhblaz | Thanks, I've done that. | 19:50 |
| dhblaz | I'm testing from the head node that is running the l3-agent | 19:50 |
| kbringard | because, what should happen is, OVS should update the VLAN header based on its flow table | 19:50 |
| kbringard | so like, you should gave a flow that's like vlanid1 to vlanid 4000 or whatever the physical VLAN is | 19:51 |
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| kbringard | then when the packet hits the wire, it should have that physical vlan | 19:51 |
| dhblaz | so I wouldn't expect the physical interface, external LAN bridge, or integration bridge to participate | 19:51 |
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| kbringard | then when it goes into the other side it'll do it in reverse… kinda like a VLAN NAT | 19:51 |
| kbringard | assuming you're using OVS+VLAN | 19:51 |
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| dhblaz | it looks like the l3-agent has setup the floating ips as aliases on the qg-58817b59-c6 interface in the qrouter* namespace | 19:56 |
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| dhblaz | but when I try to ping or arping the floating IP in that namespace with the source interface as that interface (i.e. I don't think it hit ovs or the wire) I get no replies | 19:57 |
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| dhblaz | I guess this isn't an openstack problem | 19:58 |
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| kbringard | dhblaz: it may be that the l2 OVS plugin isn't setting things up quite properly, which would most probably indicate a configuration issue | 20:21 |
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| dhblaz | kbringard: It looks like floating IP addresses get assigned to the correct interface: http://paste.openstack.org/show/73456/ | 20:34 |
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| Rick_ | So does everyone who deploys openstack with juju go through the same hoops with the django version that gets installed on the horizon node? | 20:43 |
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| enarciso | Hello, everyone. This is news to me that if a nova-compute is on shared storage (say NFS) you cannot live-migrate an instance that's booting from a cinder volume. | 20:45 |
| enarciso | i get an error of: "InvalidLocalStorage: server5 is not on local storage: Block migration can not be used with shared storage." | 20:45 |
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| lifeless | enarciso: try live migrate without the --block-migrate flag | 20:46 |
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| enarciso | I tried that.. still no dice | 20:46 |
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| lifeless | enarciso: same error? | 20:46 |
| enarciso | yes | 20:46 |
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| enarciso | lifeless: I'm basically proposing that any production/permanent VMs to boot on a volume/cinder | 20:47 |
| enarciso | and any test/development VMs to run in a shares storage/qcow2 | 20:47 |
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| lifeless | enarciso: yeah, thats what I'd recommend | 20:48 |
| lifeless | enarciso: if its precious, put it on cinder with redundant block storage, if its not, put it on the hypervisor | 20:48 |
| enarciso | lifeless: here's the complete syntax i'm using: "nova live-migration --block-migrate ed03b75c-f2ad-4d1d-96bc-0e1164f8a6d3 server4" | 20:48 |
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| enarciso | lifeless: but given the error I'm not sure if this is viable because I have to pick non-share storage or shared storage but cannot live-migrate a boot from volume instance | 20:49 |
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| enarciso | lifeless: I'm on havanna 1:2013.2.1-0ubuntu1~cloud0 btw | 20:49 |
| lifeless | enarciso: I'm not sure, I haven't looked at live migration prior to I | 20:51 |
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| enarciso | lifeless: Do you mind if you can share a little bit on how you're migrating VMs if a hypervisor needs a downtime? No worries if you cannot | 20:52 |
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| lifeless | enarciso: live-migration --block-migrate is all I use, but we have no shared storage. | 20:53 |
| lifeless | enarciso: I'm acutally surprised that cinder is reporting as shared storage | 20:53 |
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| enarciso | lifeless: me too | 20:53 |
| lifeless | enarciso: since its just an iscsi block device, the reference to it should be moved with the VM. | 20:53 |
| lifeless | mikal: ^ any thoughts? H codebase. | 20:53 |
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| geekinutah | so in nova-manage there used to be a way to see if a host was ':-)' or 'XXX', I think you would run 'nova-manage service list' or something of the like | 20:54 |
| geekinutah | is there an API way to do it instead of using nova-manage these days? | 20:55 |
| geekinutah | alaski: ^ | 20:55 |
| lifeless | geekinutah: nova service-list | 20:55 |
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| geekinutah | lifeless: thx | 20:55 |
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| enarciso | lifeless: Here's the snippet from driver.py: http://paste.openstack.org/show/73459/ | 20:58 |
| alaski | geekinutah: what he said :) | 20:58 |
| geekinutah | alaski: ty also :-) | 20:58 |
| enarciso | lifeless: The note states: "# if block migration, instances_paths should not be on shared storage." | 20:58 |
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| enarciso | lifeless: I guess the latter option is my choice | 21:00 |
| mikal | enarciso / lifeless: this looks like a known bug to me | 21:00 |
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| mikal | enarciso / lifeless: probably one of bug/1276639, or bug/1282506 | 21:00 |
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| lifeless | enarciso: ^ | 21:02 |
| enarciso | mikal: / lifeless: Funny thing is I can migrate an instance that boots from hypervisor with a volume attached to it | 21:02 |
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| lifeless | enarciso: as mikal said, known bug | 21:04 |
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| enarciso | lifeless: Thanks lifeless, I just reviewed those bugs | 21:04 |
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| paul_z | Hi peeps, got a quick question if any one has time, is it possible to run openstack neutron for just a flat provider network or do i need to configure it to use vlan or gre to enable communication between vms/dhcp service. The flat provider network would be supplied by an unmanaged switch that all compute nodes and controller/network node would be connected to | 21:04 |
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| enarciso | lifeless: I guess in the meantime my environment would be no shared storage | 21:05 |
| enarciso | mikal: / lifeless: Thank you for the pointers | 21:05 |
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| enarciso | paul_z: You mean a single flat network?: http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/section_neutron-single-flat.html | 21:16 |
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| paul_z | yes a single flat network | 21:17 |
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| paul_z | I have looked at that page and set up as i think it should be, I can ping between vms, but they cant receive dhcp from the controller/network node I was wondering if I had missed something | 21:18 |
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| paul_z | tcpdum shows no traffic hitting the br-ex interface on the controller | 21:19 |
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| paul_z | so dhcp request go unanswered | 21:20 |
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| enarciso | paul_z: I've had trouble with this method too, especially running with neutron. I ended up changing it to a GRE-tunneling and it has been working for me | 21:20 |
| paul_z | enarciso: ok I will try GRE see if I can get any success | 21:22 |
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| paul_z | enarciso: could you paste the relevant plugin.ini [OVS] config I would feel better working from a know to work config? | 21:23 |
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| enarciso | paul_z: sure, give me a sec to paste it. | 21:24 |
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| paul_z | enarciso: thanks! | 21:24 |
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| enarciso | paul_z: Here you go: http://paste.openstack.org/show/73464/ | 21:30 |
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| enarciso | paul_z: I cleaned it up a bit, esp the ovs-vsctl | 21:31 |
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| paul_z | enarciso: Thanks again, much appreciated | 21:32 |
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| paul_z | looks good | 21:32 |
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| enarciso | paul_z: no problem. the neutron net|subnet-create is all the same with the exception in your tenant network. The network_type needs to be a "gre" | 21:34 |
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| enarciso | paul_z: err scratch that. I mean both floating and tenant network needs to have a "gre" network_type | 21:35 |
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| paul_z | enarciso: sorry im not sure about the floating network directive is it in the plugin.ini? | 21:37 |
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| paul_z | I have not come across it before | 21:37 |
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| paul_z | enarciso: ok its in the sub-net create command | 21:39 |
| enarciso | paul_z: yup | 21:39 |
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| enarciso | paul_z: check out Bilel's write-up. It still relevant even though its written for Grizzly https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide | 21:40 |
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