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evilstephen | can someone help me reset my admin user and pass? I setup an AIO VM - I dont know what the default user/pass is | 02:14 |
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evilstephen | I used this guide: http://docwiki.cisco.com/wiki/Openstack:Havana-Openstack-Installer#Passwords | 02:14 |
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Akshik | Are there any Citrix CPBM like tool for OpenStack, Though there are openstack plugin available are there any other tool available | 04:08 |
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venum | hello This is Venu here | 05:13 |
venum | has anyone worked on using the "FAKE" Driver | 05:13 |
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venum | hi | 05:16 |
venum | hi Anand | 05:17 |
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venum | sory not sure on how to do that... | 05:17 |
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venum | this is what I've been looking for http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/devref/fakes.html#the-nova-virt-fake-module | 05:26 |
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ogzy | i checked many questions and still couldn't solve my problem. Still getting error when i try to create security group: Unable to retrieve security groups., anybody can help me? | 08:10 |
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geurt | ogzy: please check you openvswitch configfile | 08:13 |
geurt | there is a section securitygroups | 08:13 |
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ogzy | geurt: firewall_driver = neutron.agent.linux.iptables_firewall.OVSHybridIptablesFirewallDriver i am using havana on ubuntu | 08:14 |
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geurt | agzy: on all nodes where openvswitch is configured? | 08:14 |
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ogzy | geurt: on compute nod, yes | 08:15 |
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geurt | i've installed neutron/openvswitch on the controller node to... not for networking itselves but for the control functions | 08:15 |
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ogzy | geurt: same setting is also on nova compute nodes | 08:16 |
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ogzy | geurt: No route matched for GET /ports.json is the error i got at neutron server log, also same for network.json | 08:18 |
geurt | have you installed neutron/openvswitch on the controller node? | 08:19 |
geurt | This is for a node which runs the control components of Neutron, but does not run any of the components that provide the underlying functionality (such as the plug-in agent or the L3 agent). If you wish to have a combined controller/compute node follow these instructions, and then those for the compute node. | 08:19 |
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ogzy | geurt: neutron is on the controller | 08:21 |
ogzy | geurt: compute is a seperate node | 08:21 |
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geurt | ogzy: if fixed this securitygroup issue by adding the firewall rule to all openvswitch config files in /etc/neutron/plugins/openvswitch/.. | 08:25 |
ogzy | geurt: which rule? | 08:26 |
geurt | ogzy: but i'm still looking for some answers too :) | 08:26 |
geurt | ogzy: not really a rule but the config line you mentioned | 08:26 |
ogzy | geurt: ok but it seems my problem is something else | 08:27 |
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geurt | :) try to isolate events and tail your logs and backup your configfiles | 08:27 |
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ogzy | geurt: how will i isolte event? | 08:32 |
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geurt | ogzy: well i have a test cluster and i make sure that i'm the only one working on it and then i tail the logs and execute the commands commandline or in the dashboard | 08:34 |
geurt | to see where it fails | 08:34 |
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ogzy | geurt: same as me | 08:37 |
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fandi | hi, how to Select hosts where instances are launched, but we only strict to specify tenant or image :) | 08:51 |
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viktork | hello all , what/where is the default config that is passed to cloud-init - I see some repositories are being applied to /etc/apt/sources.list I want to remove | 13:11 |
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Gottaname | Hi, I'm having issues having my openstack all in one connect to my external LAN network | 13:19 |
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Gottaname | to* | 13:19 |
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Gamekiller77 | that always fun to trouble shoot | 13:19 |
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Gottaname | Thought openstack does that for you I guess | 13:20 |
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openstackstatus | NOTICE: the gerrit event stream is currently hung, blocking all testing. troubleshooting is in progress (next update at 14:00 utc) | 13:20 |
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Gamekiller77 | does what | 13:21 |
Gamekiller77 | did you setup a router | 13:21 |
Gottaname | errr no? | 13:21 |
Gottaname | it's necessary? | 13:22 |
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Gamekiller77 | how could you get out with out a router | 13:22 |
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Gamekiller77 | you have to have a GW setup | 13:22 |
Gottaname | Gamekiller77, I meant within my current internal LAN | 13:22 |
Gottaname | so I need another router inside my LAN to access it? | 13:22 |
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Gamekiller77 | sorry | 13:22 |
Gamekiller77 | a openstack router | 13:22 |
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Gamekiller77 | it software | 13:23 |
Gamekiller77 | SDN | 13:23 |
Gamekiller77 | if you log in to your project you see network and in there a router | 13:23 |
Gamekiller77 | you have to set it up to be external IP | 13:23 |
Gamekiller77 | then set it up as a GW for your instance network | 13:23 |
Gottaname | Yeah I tried to create a router, but its status keeps saying down | 13:23 |
Gamekiller77 | the external interface | 13:23 |
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Gamekiller77 | reports down | 13:24 |
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Gamekiller77 | right | 13:24 |
Gamekiller77 | if so yup that normal | 13:24 |
Gamekiller77 | not sure why but it is | 13:24 |
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Gottaname | Gamekiller77, okay so let me get this straight | 13:24 |
Gottaname | assuming I have a LAN network of 192.168.0.0/24 | 13:25 |
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Gottaname | this machine has an eth0 address of 192.168.0.30 | 13:25 |
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Gamekiller77 | the real box | 13:25 |
Gottaname | yeah | 13:25 |
Gamekiller77 | or the instance subnet | 13:25 |
Gamekiller77 | ok | 13:25 |
Gottaname | the real box | 13:25 |
Gamekiller77 | i have not played much with all in one | 13:26 |
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Gamekiller77 | i backwards i have a lot of multi nodes | 13:26 |
devoid | so keystone-manage db_sync on an empty database seems to have different error behavior every time I run it. | 13:26 |
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Gottaname | Gamekiller77, I assume I have to do this all in bash? | 13:26 |
Gamekiller77 | i do most of mine via GUI | 13:26 |
Gottaname | because I'm not sure the allinone install nuetron or nova-network | 13:26 |
devoid | do the migration scripts not guard against transaction errors? | 13:26 |
Gamekiller77 | i know neutron so yah | 13:27 |
Gottaname | neutron* | 13:27 |
Gottaname | but technically adding a router and network in openstacjk | 13:27 |
Gamekiller77 | devoid you getting migration number number problems | 13:27 |
Gottaname | openstack* | 13:27 |
Gottaname | should get it working already? | 13:27 |
devoid | Eventually I got my empty db up to v34 which seems to be the most current for havana. | 13:27 |
devoid | Gamekiller77 yea, 9 is not 10 errors. | 13:27 |
Gamekiller77 | yah me too | 13:28 |
devoid | "2014-03-25 08:24:39.209 10373 CRITICAL keystone [-] 9 is not 10" | 13:28 |
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Gamekiller77 | yup yup | 13:28 |
devoid | running it a bunch of times works, as I saw here http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack/%23openstack.2013-05-20.log | 13:28 |
Gamekiller77 | did your run the command in order | 13:28 |
Gamekiller77 | like twice | 13:28 |
Gamekiller77 | yup | 13:28 |
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Gamekiller77 | we just rewrote our puppet module to run it like 4 times | 13:28 |
devoid | lol | 13:28 |
devoid | I'm going to put a note in the docs for that then. | 13:28 |
Gamekiller77 | i know | 13:28 |
Gamekiller77 | not sure what braking | 13:29 |
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openstackstatus | NOTICE: the issue with gerrit cleared on its own before any corrective action was taken | 13:29 |
devoid | at least for the Ubuntu guide. | 13:29 |
Gamekiller77 | i think the step for 9 to 10 the update is borked | 13:29 |
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Gamekiller77 | it the same for RH | 13:29 |
devoid | I also love how none of the migration scripts are documented. | 13:29 |
Gamekiller77 | yup | 13:29 |
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devoid | I think keystone is the only one that's guilty of that. | 13:29 |
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Gamekiller77 | trying to see why i can not schedule instance now on my setup | 13:30 |
Gamekiller77 | just sit there with scheduling bar | 13:30 |
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Gamekiller77 | have you seen the neutron used alpha version control for it DB | 13:32 |
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devoid | alembic? | 13:32 |
Gamekiller77 | it havana | 13:33 |
Gamekiller77 | now | 13:33 |
Gamekiller77 | i was like ok | 13:33 |
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devoid | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1297290 | 13:34 |
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Sam-I-Am | devoid: do you know if that applies to icehouse? | 13:52 |
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Sam-I-Am | i've never seen that before on havana. might be from a newer minor release? | 13:52 |
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devoid | Sam-I-Am : well considering that the migrate scripts I was tripping up on haven't been upgraded since last August, I think so. | 13:54 |
devoid | https://github.com/openstack/keystone/commits/master/keystone/common/sql/migrate_repo/versions/017_membership_role.py | 13:54 |
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viki | hi | 13:54 |
viki | I got this error | 13:55 |
viki | from cinder.openstack.common.db import exception as db_exc | 13:55 |
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viki | ImportError: No module named db | 13:55 |
viki | how to fix this ? | 13:55 |
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Gamekiller77 | Sam-I-Am, i have seen the same problem | 13:58 |
Sam-I-Am | devoid: interesting. | 13:58 |
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tomixxx5 | hi, http://devstack.org/guides/multinode-lab.html according to this guide, i have created the user "stack" on all nodes. but now when i reboot it asks me for a password but there should be no password to enter... i have ubuntu 12.04.4 lts | 13:59 |
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devoid | viki, looks like a PYTHONPATH error. What is the environment where you are seeing this problem? Devstack? Install from source? Packages? | 13:59 |
Gamekiller77 | has anyone seen an instance stuck in the build step and not move at all. I checked all the normal logs and i can not see any errors at all | 13:59 |
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tomixxx5 | ok, solved it already | 14:00 |
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tomixxx5 | plz help: i try to follow the devstack guide for multi-user deployment but it seems iam too stupid to even follow this guide. i have tried to create the "stack" user but it does not have sudo privileges | 14:58 |
tomixxx5 | http://devstack.org/guides/multinode-lab.html | 14:58 |
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tomixxx5 | if i reboot, the system asks me for a password, if i try to login with "stack" and if i do sth which needs sudo privileges, i always get sth like "permission denied" | 14:59 |
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tomixxx5 | when i call "stack.sh" WITH "sudo" then i get sth like "you should really create a sudo account to install openstack" then i run this user-create.sh file but i still get no root privileges | 15:00 |
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jokke_ | tomixxx5: if you would have bothered to google this would probably have been your first hit: http://askubuntu.com/questions/7477/how-can-i-add-a-new-user-as-sudoer-using-the-command-line ;) | 15:06 |
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tomixxx5 | jokke_: plz have a look at the devstack guide, there are 3 statements how to create a sudo user. i have executed these statements but it does not work! | 15:07 |
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annegentle | tomixxx5: look at tools/create-stack-user.sh in the devstack dir | 15:07 |
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annegentle | tomixxx5: it'll create the user | 15:07 |
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annegentle | tomixxx5: you still have to make stack:stack the owner of /root/devstack if that's where you git cloned the repo | 15:08 |
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annegentle | tomixxx5: I follow http://blog.phymata.com/2013/12/18/devstack-havana-on-the-rackspace-cloud/ often | 15:08 |
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annegentle | tomixxx5: it has step-by-step instructions | 15:08 |
tomixxx5 | annegentle: i have executed create-stack-user.sh! console told me it will grant me sudo privileges but i still dont have sudo privileges... | 15:08 |
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tomixxx5 | the devstack folder is placed at "/home/thomas" | 15:10 |
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annegentle | tomixxx5: does the thomas user have sudo privs? | 15:10 |
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tomixxx5 | annegentle: no, it does not have sudo privileges | 15:10 |
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annegentle | tomixxx5: ok the idea is that the stack user is created so that you won't run devstack as root | 15:11 |
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annegentle | tomixxx5: did you try to run devstack as the thomas user and get errors? | 15:11 |
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jokke_ | tomixxx5: do you have sudo installed? | 15:12 |
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annegentle | tomixxx5: I think you'll need a user with sudo permissions | 15:13 |
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tomixxx5 | jokke_: yes | 15:13 |
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jokke_ | tomixxx5: and your user can do something like "sudo bash" and you will have root console? | 15:13 |
tomixxx5 | annegentle: if i run with "thomas", i still get permission denied | 15:13 |
annegentle | tomixxx5: yes I think you don't have the permissions you'll need | 15:14 |
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annegentle | tomixxx5: devstack is for a developer environment so people use it to work on OpenStack not to deploy it. Often we'll spin up a vm just for that purpose. | 15:14 |
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tomixxx5 | if i do "su stack" it asks me for a password, but there should be no password....... | 15:14 |
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jokke_ | tomixxx5: it will always ask a password unless you do that as root | 15:15 |
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tomixxx5 | jokke_: yeah, if i do "sudo su stack" it works without password prompt... | 15:16 |
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jokke_ | ok, so your sudo works | 15:16 |
jokke_ | can you do sudo su or sudo bash with the stack user? | 15:17 |
tomixxx5 | after login, i have this: "stack@cloud3:/home/thomas/devstack$" | 15:17 |
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tomixxx5 | i can do sudo bash | 15:17 |
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tomixxx5 | but if i run "./stack.sh" the first line i get is this: "touch: cannot touch `/home/thomas/devstack/.localrc.auto': Permission denied" | 15:18 |
tomixxx5 | after that, i'am prompted for a mysql database pw... | 15:19 |
tomixxx5 | then i always do ctrl+c | 15:19 |
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tomixxx5 | if i reboot ubuntu, i cannot login as "stack" because the OS always ask for a pwd | 15:21 |
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annegentle | tomixxx5: right, because you don't have a user with root permission or sudo permission | 15:24 |
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tomixxx5 | if i do "reboot" from the "stack" user it says, however, "you need to be root" | 15:24 |
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annegentle | tomixxx5: you're starting from a point where you don't have permissions on the server you're using | 15:24 |
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annegentle | tomixxx5: you can't get there from here | 15:24 |
tomixxx5 | annegentle: this means what? i thought the user "root" has rot permissions? | 15:25 |
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tomixxx5 | the guide says: "u need a fresh install of ubuntu" -> i have a fresh install of ubuntu | 15:26 |
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annegentle | tomixxx5: so your fresh install of ubuntu didn't give you a root user? | 15:27 |
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annegentle | tomixxx5: as root, create the stack user, give it sudo permissions | 15:28 |
annegentle | tomixxx5: or give thomas user sudo permissions | 15:28 |
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tomixxx5 | annegentle: so create the devstack user after login with "sudo su -" ? | 15:28 |
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tomixxx5 | however, i have to delete first the previous devstack user account | 15:29 |
annegentle | tomixxx5: refer to the ubuntu documentation, but the idea is what's in the http://blog.phymata.com/2013/12/18/devstack-havana-on-the-rackspace-cloud/ | 15:29 |
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tomixxx5 | plz not another guide....:/ | 15:30 |
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devoid | need a guide-guide. | 15:30 |
tomixxx5 | i cant see guides anymore, really, i hate them right now! (sorry, iam a bit upset right now :/) | 15:30 |
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devoid | tomixxx5 what's the perms on .localrc.auto | 15:31 |
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annegentle | tomixxx5: us guides want to guide you | 15:33 |
annegentle | tomixxx5: hang in | 15:33 |
devoid | fwiw the document annegentle linked to looks good to me. there's always a bunch per perms-issues w/ devstack | 15:33 |
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annegentle | devoid: yeah it trips me up all the time | 15:33 |
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tomixxx5 | i need a multi-node openstack deployment guide | 15:34 |
devoid | specifically because a. devstack doesn't want you to run it as root, b. devstack is run from whatever login user you have, and c. devstack creates the stack user and runs everything from /opt/stack | 15:34 |
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devoid | tomixxx5, so not devstack? | 15:34 |
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devoid | like a full deployment on ubuntu? | 15:35 |
tomixxx5 | devoid: it's a devstack guide: http://devstack.org/guides/multinode-lab.html | 15:35 |
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devoid | for a full deployment w/ ubuntu, the Installation Guide for Ubuntu 12.04 is what you want. | 15:35 |
devoid | http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/ch_preface.html | 15:35 |
viktork2 | can anybody tell how to fix this error at boot: Failed loading of cloud config '/var/lib/cloud/instance/cloud-config.txt' | 15:35 |
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tomixxx5 | so far, i have tried maas+juju+openstack, openstack based on the official guide (havana) and devstack guide. | 15:35 |
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tomixxx5 | ok i will try now to create the stack user with the root account | 15:37 |
devoid | tomixxx5, did you run this command? echo "stack ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL" >> /etc/sudoers | 15:38 |
tomixxx5 | devoid: yes | 15:38 |
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devoid | tomixxx5, clarification, are you installing a multi-node devstack to do development / basic testing or are you installing it for "production" | 15:39 |
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atpa8a | hello | 15:39 |
devoid | because if you're doing it for "production" you do not want to be using devstack. | 15:39 |
tomixxx5 | devoid: i do this for my master thesis | 15:39 |
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tomixxx5 | devoid: so, not "production" | 15:40 |
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devoid | tomixxx5, kk just making sure. | 15:40 |
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nekinie | hey people | 15:52 |
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nekinie | Iv been working on a openstack setup | 15:52 |
nekinie | currently has 3 physical devices | 15:52 |
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nekinie | 2 are for compute | 15:52 |
nekinie | 1 is for control | 15:53 |
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nekinie | with a firewall / gateway linking them | 15:53 |
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nekinie | all the servers are configured on the subnet 10.200.30.0/23 | 15:53 |
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nekinie | and i would like all vms on 10.200.31.0/23 | 15:54 |
nekinie | but so far i havent been able to get the vms to connect to the internet via this setup | 15:54 |
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tomixxx5 | btw, it seems i have no file "/home/thomas/devstack/.localrc.auto" at all | 15:55 |
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tomixxx5 | i cannot browse to it | 15:56 |
tomixxx5 | even with ctrl+h | 15:56 |
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devoid | nekinie, "to connect to the internet" do you mean public floating ips? or private IPs w/ NAT? neutron or nova-network? which network driver in each? do the vms boot and get IPs? can you ping them from the controller? | 15:58 |
nekinie | connect to the internet | 15:58 |
nekinie | private ips | 15:58 |
devoid | tomixxx5, who owns all the files in the /home/thomas/devstack dir? | 15:58 |
nekinie | using the firewall as the gateway | 15:59 |
nekinie | so a flat network setup | 15:59 |
nekinie | using neutron | 15:59 |
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tomixxx5 | devoid: owner is root | 15:59 |
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tomixxx5 | i mean the user "root" | 15:59 |
tomixxx5 | is the owner of the devstack folder | 15:59 |
nekinie | with the ovs plugin as per the instructions on the openstack wesbite (for ubuntu 12.04) | 16:00 |
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nekinie | i cant ping them from the centeral guide | 16:01 |
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devoid | nekinie, not sure what L2 that uses. Do your VMs get an IP on the 10.200.31.0/23 network? | 16:01 |
nekinie | *centeral controller | 16:01 |
nekinie | devoid they dont automaticly get an ip | 16:01 |
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nekinie | but do boot | 16:01 |
devoid | tomixxx5, so chmod -R stack:stack /home/thomas/devstack | 16:02 |
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tomixxx5 | devoid: OK will try this! | 16:02 |
nekinie | http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/neutron-install-network-node.html | 16:02 |
nekinie | thats the link to guide a followed | 16:02 |
nekinie | but it is confusing | 16:03 |
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tomixxx5 | devoid: chmod: invalid mode "stack:stack" | 16:03 |
devoid | sorry, chown | 16:03 |
tomixxx5 | np | 16:03 |
devoid | nekinie, ok and you did the neutorn net-create… and subnet-create, etc? | 16:04 |
nekinie | yes | 16:04 |
nekinie | that i did | 16:04 |
nekinie | im just looking though the config to see if i made a mistake in there | 16:04 |
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devoid | yea, first check all of the logs for any sign of errors | 16:05 |
tomixxx5 | devoid: it seems, stack.sh is working now, at least i dont get the permission error in first line. however, it still asks me for passwords, is this ok? (thought i have defined all pwds in local.conf) | 16:05 |
devoid | make sure you are logging somewhere, and probably set logging to debug. | 16:05 |
devoid | tomixxx5, yea I'm not sure how local.conf vs localrc vs openrc works for devstack, others might know....? | 16:06 |
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nekinie | ERROR neutron.api.rpc.agentnotifiers.dhcp_rpc_agent_api [-] No DHCP agents are associated with network 'f09d1ddf-6259-4c63-8e0b-f9ee6c6aa979'. Unable to send notif | 16:06 |
tomixxx5 | devoid: however, ty!!! | 16:06 |
nekinie | im guessing thats the root cause | 16:06 |
devoid | nekinie, yea you need to run dhcp agent... | 16:06 |
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nekinie | dnsmasq right? | 16:06 |
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devoid | nekinie, neutron-dhcp-agent should start that for you | 16:07 |
nekinie | ohh | 16:07 |
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nekinie | would that need to be run just on the controller | 16:08 |
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nekinie | or the compute nodes also? | 16:08 |
devoid | i'm not sure tbh | 16:08 |
nekinie | also thanks for helping | 16:08 |
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devoid | nekinie, np. basically it's not working if you don't have a dnsmasq process running for each subnet on a machine that's connected to that subnet. | 16:10 |
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nekinie | aah | 16:10 |
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nekinie | fired it up | 16:10 |
nekinie | going to clear the logs | 16:10 |
nekinie | and see what happens | 16:10 |
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tomixxx5 | in which folder the "local.conf" file should be placed? per default, it is in the "samples" folder. is this ok? | 16:13 |
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devoid | tomixxx5, i think it needs to be in the devstack folder | 16:13 |
tomixxx5 | ohoh | 16:14 |
devoid | devsack/samples == nothing that actually matters for ./stack.sh | 16:14 |
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tomixxx5 | i guess i should don't ask why this is not mentioned in the guide | 16:16 |
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devoid | well the multi-node guide was probably written with the expectation that you've already setup a single-node devstack before. so it probably leaves a lot of steps out... | 16:17 |
tomixxx5 | can i simply re-run ./stack.sh ? | 16:17 |
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devoid | it may complain and ask you to run ./unstack.sh | 16:18 |
devoid | depends on how far you got. | 16:19 |
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tomixxx5 | devoid: still executing ./stack.sh on cluster controller. not exectued yet on compute nodes | 16:19 |
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tomixxx5 | btw: it is also not mentioned where to place the "local.conf" in the single-node-guide | 16:20 |
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devoid | does a heat-engine process automatically SIGTERM itself if it finds another heat-engine on the queue? | 16:22 |
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tomixxx5 | ok, in the "local.conf" i can read the following: # NOTE: Copy this file to the root ``devstack`` directory for it to work properly." | 16:25 |
tomixxx5 | ;-) | 16:25 |
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exed_ | what is the easiest way to get the associated interface name of an instance? | 16:39 |
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iggy | exed_: maybe virsh domiflist | 16:46 |
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exed_ | iggy: thanks | 16:54 |
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geurt | hi I get an error if i use the command neutron net-create | 17:08 |
geurt | ERROR neutron.api.rpc.agentnotifiers.dhcp_rpc_agent_api [-] No DHCP agents are associated with network 'b9469354-f2a5-4b6e-a153-cdc437adb109'. Unable to send notification for 'network_create_end' with payload: | 17:08 |
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geurt | does anyone have a clue? | 17:09 |
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badams | geurt: it means that you have to manually assign a DHCP agent to that network | 17:12 |
geurt | ok how can we automate it? | 17:13 |
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badams | it should be automatic by default, but i thin kthere's an option in maybe the dhcp agent conf file for it | 17:14 |
badams | think* | 17:14 |
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badams | or maybe the main neutron conf file | 17:15 |
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geurt | it is configuration maze :) | 17:18 |
geurt | at some points | 17:18 |
badams | geurt: yeah that's true. lemme see if i can find something | 17:18 |
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badams | ok yeah. network_auto_schedule in neutron.conf | 17:19 |
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badams | geurt: set to true | 17:20 |
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djoreilly | geurt: there is a bug for this https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1289130 | 17:27 |
djoreilly | geurt: once you create a port or boot an instance, it should be scheduled then | 17:28 |
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devoid | Is there a way to change whether a flavor is public or not from the command line? | 17:32 |
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devoid | (nova instance flavors) neither flavor-key nor flavor-access-add look to be appropriate | 17:33 |
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IRTermite | co-worker just pointed out this page is full of 404's. Anyone know who to talk to, or anyone here have access to check/fix? http://activity.openstack.org/data/display/OPNSTK2/neutron | 17:42 |
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mux | hmm - is the openstack website in git? fix it and submit a pull request | 17:55 |
mux | might count as a code submission, get a discount on the Openstack Summit :) | 17:56 |
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geurt | djoreilly: let me try that one :) | 17:56 |
dolphm | mux: next* openstack summit (paris) | 17:56 |
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mux | dolphm: ahh, can't get in on the Atlanta one? | 18:00 |
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mux | dolphm: (Paris would be nicer, for sure!) | 18:00 |
dolphm | mux: the list of ATC's was produced in january for atlanta, i believe | 18:01 |
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mux | hmm - what's an ATC? | 18:03 |
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geekinutah_web | mux: Active Technical Contributor | 18:03 |
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geekinutah_web | mux: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/TechnicalCommittee | 18:04 |
mux | ahhh | 18:04 |
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gmi | devoid:you can create a new flavor and not make it public then give access only to a tenant | 18:18 |
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devoid | gmi, thx, but the case I have is a public flavor that needs to now be private | 18:18 |
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gmi | devoid:I don't think you can mess with the built-in flavors | 18:19 |
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devoid | gmi, seems like it although I don't know why. It's a simple database change, but I'm trying to file bugs when I have to do one of those. | 18:21 |
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devoid | gonna ping the busy folks on openstack-nova if I don't get a definitive answer from someone here in the next few minutes. :) | 18:22 |
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IRTermite | mux: hah, doubt confluence sites are in git, but that would be a great idea! | 18:26 |
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IRTermite | oh, cool, SPAM! Pft, great another real/fake money game! | 18:34 |
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jelly-home | mux: it would be nice if confluence could work with a svn or git backend like ikiwiki | 18:35 |
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chathura77 | Does anyone know what command openstack uses to creat KVM virtual machines. ? | 18:37 |
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chathura77 | is it virt-install, qemu-sytem-x86 etc..? | 18:38 |
PEPPERONIE | chathura77: it does virt-install | 18:38 |
PEPPERONIE | from what I see in the logs | 18:38 |
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chathura77 | PEPPERONIE: On what log did you see this? the thing is virt-install is not installed on my compute-nodes so I assume it must be doing something else | 18:39 |
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PEPPERONIE | whoa, ok | 18:41 |
PEPPERONIE | chathura77: which driver did you pick? KVM? | 18:41 |
chathura77 | yes | 18:42 |
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chathura77 | PEPPERONIE: so it could be just “kvm” | 18:42 |
chathura77 | ? | 18:42 |
PEPPERONIE | chathura77: I suppose ues | 18:42 |
PEPPERONIE | yes | 18:42 |
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chathura77 | PEPPERONIE: ok thanks | 18:44 |
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devoid | is there a way to let end-users set ephemeral and swap volume sizes on instance boot? | 18:54 |
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jgriffith | devoid: flavor | 18:59 |
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devoid | jgriffith, I was hoping for an alternate to flavor since we already have ~40 flavors at the moment. | 19:00 |
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devoid | *wonders how nova scales with respect to # of flavors* | 19:02 |
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PEPPERONIE | devoid: it's just one table, right? | 19:04 |
PEPPERONIE | should be fine | 19:04 |
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devoid | PEPPERONIE, I was being slightly sarcastic. But actually Horizon is not very useable at 40. Once we got to 120+ if we do separate ephemeral and swap sizes, it will not work at all. | 19:05 |
PEPPERONIE | ohhh yes | 19:05 |
PEPPERONIE | can metadata be used to set something like that? | 19:06 |
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devoid | PEPPERONIE, there's this, which theoretically landed https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/BlockDeviceConfig | 19:08 |
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devoid | hmm you're still capped by the ephemeral size | 19:13 |
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devoid | if you do nova boot [options] —ephemeral size=10,format=ext4 | 19:14 |
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Gamekiller77 | has any one seen a "too many files open" warning | 19:40 |
devoid | Gamekiller77 yes | 19:40 |
devoid | although, for elasticsearch, not an OpenStack thing. | 19:41 |
Gamekiller77 | lol | 19:41 |
Gamekiller77 | this is on the dashboard | 19:41 |
Gamekiller77 | with the nova client | 19:41 |
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devoid | ulimit -Hn | 19:43 |
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OrmucoJC | Hi guys, I'm a Newbie... I currently looking for a recomendation on a company that can assist us with implementing and supporting our own Openstack. We're looking for the best company for help with this. | 20:44 |
OrmucoJC | I'm | 20:44 |
Sam-I-Am | OrmucoJC: rackspace? mirantis? | 20:46 |
devoid | OrmucoJS, not a bad place to start looking: https://www.openstack.org/foundation/companies/ | 20:46 |
Sam-I-Am | depends on how customized you need it | 20:47 |
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OrmucoJC | Thank you for your guidance! | 20:48 |
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ment0s | Hello | 20:57 |
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PEPPERONIE | ment0s: hello | 20:58 |
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ment0s | I am looking for a bit of advice, I'm a student and I have to write about cloud computing and virtualization. | 21:02 |
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ment0s | I am not sure which solution is better, should hypervisor be filled with hard drives and should I use those hard drives to store virtual machines or should I attach storage servers to hypervisor over lets say iSCSI and leave hypervisor only with operating system on it ? | 21:04 |
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devoid | ment0s, it really depends on your definition of better. cost, complexity, performance and what hardware you already have. | 21:06 |
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ment0s | I can see in cloudstack and openstack that storage for Vm's is most likely to be attached over NFS or iSCSI but this solution cause a problems with bandwidth which with my calculations to run 3000 virtual machines and keep those VM's with 3Gbps HDD speed I will run out of any NIC's that would supply such performance | 21:06 |
PEPPERONIE | ment0s: generally speaking if you want non-local storage it needs to be HA | 21:07 |
screwgoth | @ment0s I hope I'm not side-tracking here, but have you considered a "converged" approach ? | 21:07 |
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screwgoth | Say like what people like Nutanix and Pluribus offer ? | 21:07 |
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devoid | ment0s, how are you going to do 9Tbps of disk storage locally (or remotely?) | 21:08 |
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ment0s | devoid: well, thats the problem. If I want remote storage I will need 9.2 Tbps bandwidth | 21:09 |
ment0s | devoid: so after all calculations and trying to find SAN with soo many fiber channels I gave up and trying to find other solution | 21:10 |
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devoid | ment0s, I think you're off by at least two orders of magnitude on your bandwidth expectations. Unless you're the magical student with $100M USD. | 21:12 |
ment0s | hypervisors so far have been designed to support 920GbE after Active-Backup LACP, 30Gbps is the maximum required by VM's | 21:12 |
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ment0s | devoid: project budget 8.5MLN british pounds | 21:12 |
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ment0s | so basically local storage solution would be the only option here, with iSCSI backup ? | 21:14 |
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chathura77 | what would be the reason if I can run an image manually using kvm, virt-install and qemu. But when I use glance the kernel can not find the OS ? | 21:17 |
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iggy | ment0s: something like ceph storing the disk images (or whatever openstack's default flavor is) | 21:22 |
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iggy | rbd actually... ceph implies the filesystem | 21:23 |
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ment0s | devoid: so how else can you provide native speed of sata 3gbps to virtual machines if you have 3000 of them, I am searching 4th hour and cannot find any other solutions except local storage of hypervisor | 21:32 |
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devoid | ment0s what application do you have that you need that? | 21:32 |
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devoid | also that's sata 2.0 bus speeds. 7.2K RPM hard disks are going to run much slower than that. | 21:33 |
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ment0s | devoid: well, 3Gbps speed number is the maximum which includes growth of the network, even if I cut it down to half its not possible to achieve. Network has to provide maximum of 3000 VM's ( there will be 3000 zero clients inside building ) + ~30 servers + about 70 users might need access to 3 VM's at the same time. | 21:36 |
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desai | 3 gbps * 3000 clients isn't too much bandwidth if you have a decent network | 21:37 |
desai | something 40ge for example | 21:37 |
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ment0s | desai: thats the bandwidth for VM's HDD's stored separately from hypervisors ( thats the issue here ) | 21:38 |
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ment0s | desai: hypervisors together have 920GGbE , maximum of 30GbE is required to run 3000 VM's at maximum performance and this 30GbE is an overkill anyway so problem is not there, the problem is where I want to store virtual machines on separated hardware from hypervisors. | 21:40 |
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ment0s | desai: so the quiestion is, Is it even possible to achieve it by storing VM's remotely, or should I just store them localy on hypervisors | 21:41 |
desai | i'm not sure that is much of an issue | 21:41 |
desai | you need a clos network of some sort | 21:41 |
desai | you could do it either with ethernet or infiniband at 40 gigabits | 21:41 |
desai | mellanox's orca switches will do 648 non-blocking 40 gigabit ports | 21:41 |
desai | and those are ~5 years old | 21:41 |
desai | say, to make the math easy, you're putting 12 vm on each host | 21:41 |
desai | that would mean you need 36 gigabit/node | 21:41 |
desai | and 250 nodes | 21:41 |
desai | for the client side | 21:41 |
desai | and something similar for the storage side | 21:41 |
desai | which would fit on one of these switches | 21:41 |
desai | getting software that will drive it well is a different problem | 21:41 |
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ment0s | desai: but such soolutions would require over 100 storage nodes, would be cheaper to store them localy on hypervisor ( a looot cheaper ) | 21:42 |
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ment0s | or | 21:43 |
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devoid | ment0s, for networking: http://www.amazon.com/High-Performance-Datacenter-Networks-Architectures/dp/1608454029 | 21:44 |
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desai | it really depends what your workload is | 21:45 |
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ment0s | desai: servers I have in design have 4 dual 40GbE NIC's, in this case I would need 29 of those servers, so its 29 servers x 8 40GbE fibers = 232 fiber connections that needs to be connected to hypervisors | 21:45 |
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devoid | ment0s, for determining what you're workload actually needs: http://www.amazon.com/Systems-Performance-Enterprise-Brendan-Gregg-ebook/dp/B00FLYU9T2/ | 21:46 |
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ment0s | devoid: thanks for those links, will defo read it. | 21:47 |
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ment0s | devoid: could you just tell me if its bad solution to put VM's localy on hypervisor ( and then back up onto iSCSI targets ) ? | 21:48 |
desai | the answer is maybe | 21:48 |
desai | depending on the workload | 21:48 |
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desai | there are very few hard and fast rules in this space | 21:48 |
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devoid | ^ this | 21:48 |
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desai | here is one way to think about this | 21:49 |
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iggy | it's a bad solution (I have no proof... I just flipped a coin) | 21:50 |
desai | with a network, you can balance out your workload if it is uneven | 21:50 |
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desai | with locally attached disk, you need to make sure that you have enough capacity in the right places | 21:50 |
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desai | tho you get performance isolation | 21:50 |
desai | which can be good, depending on your requirements | 21:50 |
desai | so definitely maybe | 21:50 |
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ment0s | well, the building is the College that will be build in future, with max 3000 workstations that all are "zero clients" around 90% of those VM's will be just standard windows box with browser and no workload, just accesing files+office etc | 21:51 |
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ment0s | the rest of VM's will be for networking and 3d grpahics design ( for graphics there will be separate grid from NVIDIA ) | 21:51 |
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borgified | hi Lars, is this a good place to ask you a question on your slides: http://slidedeck.io/larsks/rdo-hangout-multinode-packstack-slides | 22:07 |
Tijuanense | I am getting this error when trying to upload to the server | 22:10 |
Tijuanense | http://i.imgur.com/eizzhMx.jpg | 22:10 |
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chathura77 | Does anyone know a way to find out the exact kvm or Qemu command that nova-compute executes when creating a VM? | 22:16 |
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mux | chathura77: "ps fax" | 22:25 |
mux | :) | 22:25 |
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chathura77 | mux: awesome. I didn’t even think about it :D | 22:26 |
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cjellick | hi all. a have a question about the "max_pool_size" database config property for nova. is that property used across all nova services? meaning if it is set to 5, nova-api will keep 5 connections and noava-conductor will keep a separate 5 connections? | 22:27 |
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derek_c | trying to run devstack here, getting a "SQL connection failed" error in cinder's screen session. Does anyone know what could be wrong? | 23:35 |
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