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| h6w | Not getting any response over in the Swift channel. I'm trying to change the IP of a storage node. swift-ring-builder set_info worked perfectly and lists the new node. However swift-recon is still checking the old IP. | 00:03 |
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| h6w | When I read the recon.py code it seems to be reading the *.ring.gz file rather than the *.builder file. | 00:04 |
| h6w | The *.ring.gz file hasn't been touched. | 00:04 |
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| h6w | swift-ring-builder ... rebalance says "Cowardly refusing to save rebalance as it did not change at least 1%." | 00:07 |
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| notmyname | h6w: `swift-ring-builder write_ring` | 00:09 |
| h6w | Ah. The rebalance is definitely the issue. One ring did rebalance and it's showing the correct IPs. | 00:09 |
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| h6w | notmyname: Yep. That did it. Thanks! :-) | 00:10 |
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| h6w | notmyname: Should I recopy the rings in that case? | 00:12 |
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| notmyname | h6w: copy? as in deploy them to all of your nodes? yes | 00:13 |
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| h6w | Interesting. Why? If swift-recon is responding correctly, what could go wrong? | 00:14 |
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| notmyname | h6w: I'm not sure of your question. if you update the rings, then you need to push the new .ring.gz files out to your cluster | 00:15 |
| h6w | The reason I'm asking is that the rings themselves should be the same if the storage nodes state hasn't changed, no? | 00:15 |
| h6w | For example, I have two proxies connected to my 5 storage nodes. Each proxy contains a different IP for the nodes because they're in different locations. | 00:16 |
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| h6w | Or are you suggesting I should have one VPN with all the proxies and storage nodes on it, so the storage nodes all have the same IP set on each proxy? | 00:17 |
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| notmyname | h6w: the rings are also used for replication, so the ring file on each object server should have a reference to routable IPs for the other nodes | 00:19 |
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| h6w | So how do the rings maintain consistent state between the two proxies when the proxies are in different IP ranges? | 00:19 |
| notmyname | what do you mean by consistent state? | 00:20 |
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| notmyname | each proxy tracks it's own "view" of storage nodes in the cluster. eg if one proxy can't talk to a particular node, it will stop trying. even if another node can | 00:21 |
| h6w | Well, one proxy will have one set of IPs in the ring, and another proxy will have a different set of IPs in the ring. | 00:21 |
| notmyname | what do you mean by "set of IPs in the ring"? | 00:21 |
| h6w | If I copy the rings to the storage nodes from proxy1, then they'll be different to the IPs in the rings in proxy2. | 00:21 |
| h6w | Proxy 1 : http://ix.io/bwT Proxy 2 : http://ix.io/bwV | 00:23 |
| h6w | Proxy 1 has 3 local 192.168.0.0/24 and connects to region 2 via a VPN 10.9.8.0/24. | 00:25 |
| notmyname | ah, I see | 00:25 |
| h6w | Proxy 2 has 2 local 192.168.80.0/24 and connects to region 1 via VPN 10.8.0.0/24. | 00:26 |
| * h6w thinks there's a bigger mistake here in his design. | 00:26 | |
| notmyname | h6w: the storage nodes in the cluster, regardless of region, need to be able to talk to one another. ie mutually routable IPs | 00:26 |
| h6w | Ahah! So one big VPN is required for *all* storage nodes. | 00:27 |
| notmyname | and, in general, the same ring file everywhere is going to be a lot simple. also, it's the assumption of anyone you'll be asking questions to ;-) | 00:27 |
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| h6w | Yeah. This was kinda what I was trying to grasp last week with the whole co-lo being in different IP ranges problem. | 00:28 |
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| h6w | I thought there was magic going on between the proxies to route to storage nodes, but that was wrong, so this was my solution. | 00:28 |
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| h6w | Need to go back to the drawing board. :-p | 00:29 |
| notmyname | h6w: you'll find that swift generally does as little magic as possible and falls back to assuming "there is an operator or some management software" | 00:31 |
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| notmyname | h6w: each node, in general, only does message pushing. ie no polling or shared state. for example, expanding on the above statement, there isn't a view of the global cluster health anywhere inside of swift itself (eg something passed around via gossip or something else) | 00:32 |
| notmyname | makes some ops tasks a little more tricky (or requires some automation), but it also means that there is much less that can go wrong and give you "death spirals" of failures | 00:33 |
| h6w | Yeah, that was what led me to this situation. I saw the storage nodes as "dumb" so it surprised me that the rings contained IPs at all. I thought that was just a reference, not that they communicate with each other. | 00:33 |
| h6w | reference = reference IP for the proxy | 00:34 |
| notmyname | the ring files are a lookup table of the ring partitions to the storage volumes they are assigned to. and a storage volumes is referenced by (region, zone, IP:port, and mount point) | 00:34 |
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| notmyname | and the ring code takes that lookup table and knows how to read and write data and handle failures | 00:35 |
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| notmyname | h6w: are you good for now? I've got to run | 00:36 |
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| h6w | Yep. You're a great help as always. Thanks again! :-D | 00:36 |
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| notmyname | glad to help | 00:36 |
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| masonjoyers | anyone available for neutron debugging? | 00:43 |
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| ngm7 | hello | 02:07 |
| ngm7 | I am facing an issue while following this guide - http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/nova-compute.html | 02:09 |
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| mosorio | Hi! I was a problem with the live migrate on Ubuntu 14.04. Anyone with the problem? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1303536 | 02:10 |
| mosorio | I had a* | 02:10 |
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| ngm7 | I am trying to setup a multihost architecture. On my compute node however, none of the nova-compute / nova-network services are able to start. A syslog entry saying "nova-compute main process (2495) terminated with status 1" | 02:10 |
| ngm7 | I see that this is an old bug however I am facing it and am a shade clueless on what is going wrong as there are no log messages generated either | 02:11 |
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| ngm7 | any help is appreciated. | 02:43 |
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| dgersting | Quick question for the room: I'm looking to setup a cloud for a small start-up company. Ignoring best practices for the moment, what's the minimum number of physical hosts needed for openstack? | 04:27 |
| masonjoyers | 1 | 04:28 |
| jblack | one | 04:28 |
| xavpaice | 1, if you ignore best practices. What are the workloads you want to run though? | 04:28 |
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| xavpaice | and what sort of availability are you wanting out of it? Do you need HA for stuff? | 04:29 |
| dgersting | hm, I tried setting up a dev environment with 1 host, and hit a wall with the object storage part | 04:29 |
| jblack | it's tricky. | 04:29 |
| jblack | I pulled it off with 1 hypervisor and one management server. I set the management server up as an nfs server, that feeds primary and secondary to the xenserver that it lives on. | 04:30 |
| dgersting | atm it would be core biz components; PBX (it's a VoIP company), billing, RADIUS/LDAP, and maybe 1 or 2 other things | 04:30 |
| dgersting | HA would be needed for the BPX and Radius (core biz offering) | 04:30 |
| jblack | You're not going to get HA out of one computer, friend. | 04:31 |
| dgersting | yeah. right now we have 2 small boxes | 04:31 |
| jblack | what's small? | 04:31 |
| xavpaice | you'll want at least two compute nodes plus controllers, and shared storage | 04:31 |
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| dgersting | they're supermicro 1U boxes with Intel CPUS, about 4 or 8 Gig of RAM | 04:32 |
| xavpaice | depending on your network needs you might want controllers as a pair for HA as well | 04:32 |
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| jblack | getting full HA isn't cheap, since you have to duplicate everything all the way up to the stack. | 04:32 |
| dgersting | yeah | 04:33 |
| jblack | Two stacked switches. 2 bonded nics for each machine, possibly you can get away with the managmenet nodes doing drbd dual active and serving nfs to the underlying xenservers... | 04:33 |
| jblack | add in some heartbeat... | 04:34 |
| * xavpaice wonders if the admin overhead is worth it for such a tiny setup. Better just to run up some VMs using KVM and do HA within the VMs? | 04:34 | |
| dgersting | our original plan was to run them as dedicated PBX's in HA mode using pacemaker | 04:34 |
| jblack | you'd be better off that way. resource contention can make pbx's unpalatable real quick | 04:35 |
| dgersting | KVM: I've wondered the same thing... more exploring all the options atm | 04:35 |
| jblack | I wouldn't put asterisk on a vm unless the phone system isn't mission critical. | 04:36 |
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| dgersting | hm... Originally we were looking at using them as dedicated asterisk boxes but have since found freeSwitch with seems to play a lot better with VMs | 04:37 |
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| dgersting | so I can take the numbers back to the owner; what would be the best practice for a bare-bones openStack setup? 1-2 nodes for the controller, 1+ compute nodes, and something more for object storage? (is object storage required or can it just use some shared block storage) | 04:39 |
| jblack | If you say so. I'm not sure how any phone system is going to handle the timing needs while transcoding for multiple channels at once. | 04:39 |
| jblack | On a shared system where it doesn't have control over iops or cpu. but it will probably work as long as you over provision a bit. | 04:40 |
| xavpaice | +1 on that | 04:40 |
| xavpaice | if you want to put the rest of your setup on VMs, but with HA, you'll need at least 2 hypervisor nodes | 04:41 |
| xavpaice | and shared storage - NFS is meh but workable for small. Ceph is great. | 04:41 |
| xavpaice | small setup with 3 combined storage and compute nodes, and a couple of controllers with pacemaker etc - that would scale up quite large so long as you invest enough in hardware | 04:42 |
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| troya | Hi All | 06:12 |
| troya | i have 2 machine which i want to setup openstack high availability inside | 06:13 |
| troya | i found reference from http://docs.openstack.org/high-availability-guide/content/ch-intro.html | 06:13 |
| troya | i want to setup active /passive method | 06:13 |
| troya | is there is diference in installation configuration if i want to build openstack HA ? | 06:14 |
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| newbie1 | hello, any ? | 06:51 |
| newbie1 | im on RDO and want to create volumes greater than 20Gb | 06:51 |
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| Pryan | im on RDO and want to create volumes greater than 20Gb | 07:01 |
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| coolj | Pryan: what message do you get when you try? | 07:05 |
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| troya | anyone have experience on pacemaker and corosync ? | 07:23 |
| troya | i want to build 2 machine to build openstack HA | 07:23 |
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| troya | i have configure pacemaker and corosync on both of my machine now | 07:23 |
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| troya | then what should i do after that ? install openstack on both of server ? or just on one server ? | 07:24 |
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| geurt | troya: install the software on both servers and let corosync/pacemaker take care of the resources and where they are started or not | 07:25 |
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| geurt | btw.. it is recommended to use corosync with an uneven number of nodes | 07:26 |
| troya | so, i should install openstack as usual configuration on both of my machine | 07:26 |
| geurt | install it normally but not let it start automaticly on the default way | 07:27 |
| geurt | corosync/pacemaker take care of it | 07:27 |
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| geurt | sometimes services can be active on multiple nodes but in other scenario's you want a active/passive | 07:28 |
| troya | how i can configure it so that service not start automatically ? | 07:28 |
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| troya | actually i want to configure as active / passive method | 07:29 |
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| troya | how i can configure it so that service not start automatically ? is not all off service will be start automatically by default,right ? | 07:30 |
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| Pryan | coolj: no valid host was found | 07:32 |
| geurt | troya: the command to disable/enable processes to start at boot differs per linux distribution.. look at the openstack installation manual on the website | 07:32 |
| Pryan | and in the logs | 07:32 |
| Pryan | volume size excedeed 200/20 GB | 07:33 |
| troya | guert: okay, let me try first | 07:33 |
| troya | hope working well | 07:33 |
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| coolj | Pryan: http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide-admin/content/cli_set_quotas.html#cli_set_block_storage_quotas | 07:36 |
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| mosulica | I have all instances working on all three nodes, but if I type #nova service list | 09:44 |
| mosulica | my nova-compute are down | 09:45 |
| mosulica | so I am not able to start new instances | 09:45 |
| mosulica | nova-conductor is running fine, I think | 09:45 |
| mosulica | http://pastebin.com/CXj3sSsN | 09:45 |
| mosulica | any hint ? | 09:45 |
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| nekinie | hey guys | 10:52 |
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| pzdmrd | hi | 10:56 |
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| pzdmrd | i can stack neutron, i get error when testing the test network | 10:57 |
| pzdmrd | sudo route add -net 10.0.0.0/24 gw 172.16.10.129 | 10:57 |
| pzdmrd | SIOCADDRT: No such process | 10:58 |
| pzdmrd | and that makes sense to me because the system doesnt have such gw | 10:58 |
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| pzdmrd | although its creation is done in q-agt, q-l3 and q-svc (screen logs show no error when setting this IP) | 11:01 |
| pzdmrd | any clue ? | 11:01 |
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| admin0 | hello all | 11:09 |
| admin0 | where can I find the tarballs/rpms for the latest icehouse | 11:09 |
| nekinie | I was just wondering if any one here has any input or experience with the packaging side of openstack | 11:10 |
| nekinie | and hello | 11:10 |
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| nekinie | I dont know about rpms as I dont use them | 11:10 |
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| nekinie | but for tarballs | 11:11 |
| admin0 | tarballs will do :) | 11:11 |
| admin0 | all i end up is getting tarballs for specific projects and not one as a whole | 11:11 |
| geurt | http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/install-guide/install/yum/content/basics-packages.html | 11:11 |
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| geurt | here you'll find icehouse installation instructions including the repositories to add | 11:11 |
| nekinie | rpm, makes lice easyer | 11:11 |
| nekinie | *life | 11:11 |
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| zipper | What's the default root password for centOS on openstack? | 12:32 |
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| zipper | I used a disk image to set up the instance. | 12:32 |
| zipper | It doesn't allow me to log in as root | 12:33 |
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| zipper | s/log in/ssh | 12:33 |
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| admin0 | upgraded .. i get SuspiciousOperation: Invalid HTTP_HOST header (you may need to set ALLOWED_HOSTS): … i already have it in /etc/openstack-dashboard/local_settings .. what might be missing ? | 12:39 |
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| jpich | admin0: Hey. Did you restart httpd after setting ALLOWED_HOSTS? Does the URL you're typing exactly matches what's in the variable? | 12:43 |
| admin0 | did both | 12:45 |
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| admin0 | yes to both i mean | 12:45 |
| admin0 | maybe failing in validate_host | 12:45 |
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| admin0 | http://pastebin.com/P4uTtGqU .. i have in my /etc/openstack-dashboard/local_settings ALLOWED_HOSTS = [ ‘host512.local.int’, ‘localhost’ ,’*’] | 12:52 |
| admin0 | even set DEBUG = True | 12:53 |
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| admin0 | i removed that check .. logged in .. now no /dashboard :) | 12:59 |
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| atpa8a | hmm | 13:03 |
| atpa8a | how does one autostart instances?.. | 13:03 |
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| hrzbrg | hi, I’m setting up a testlab with ubuntu 14.04 and the icehouse rc1. so far my controller is running but nova-api wont come up because „/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/keys“ is missing. should I just create it, or is there something more about it? | 13:12 |
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| fifieldt | hrzbrg, that sounds bad | 13:25 |
| fifieldt | can you provide some info about your packages and config files and put in a bug? | 13:25 |
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| hrzbrg | when I create the folder everything is fine. I will try to reproduce it and write it down. | 13:29 |
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| droyo | I have an interesting problem; noVNC doesn't work in its iFrame in Horizon, but it works when I open the frame in its own window | 13:32 |
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| fifieldt | thanks hrzbrg! | 13:32 |
| droyo | says error code 1006, which I think is "Invaid Token" | 13:32 |
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| tim|mint | hi all, what's the easiest way to test openstack? are there virtualbox images or something? i just want to get a feel for it | 13:44 |
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| jokke_ | tim|mint: devstack# | 13:47 |
| jokke_ | -# | 13:47 |
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| daqwe | hi | 16:12 |
| daqwe | !list | 16:12 |
| openstack | daqwe: Admin, Channel, ChannelLogger, Config, MeetBot, Misc, Owner, Services, and User | 16:12 |
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| kvanals | Quick question if anyone can answer it -- does anyone know if anyone has done a VPAT for Section 508 compliance for Horizon? | 16:22 |
| kvanals | I have a customer that requires such a thing before OpenStack can be deployed. | 16:23 |
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| jokke_ | I have no idea what you are talking about, but that does not vote either way | 16:24 |
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| vt102 | Is the summit in Atlanta worth going to, for somebody just getting started with creating/operating OpenStack? Or is it more oriented towards developers only? | 16:45 |
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| sc68cal | vt102: The summit has lots of sessions about running/operating openstack- that's the speaker track | 16:51 |
| sc68cal | as well as the development track | 16:52 |
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| sc68cal | vt102: here's the list of presentations - http://openstacksummitmay2014atlanta.sched.org/ | 16:52 |
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| sojoknuckle | not looking to start the distro wars ;), but other than knowledge about a specific distro has anyone found reasons to use one linux flavor over another for the base of the openstack setup. I have it running on the RHEL style distros (because i have used them for years) | 17:14 |
| mattgriffin | reed, just came across http://summit.openstack.org/ ... are these BOF proposals? is there an info page that describes how these are reviewed and where they are in the Summit program? | 17:14 |
| reed | hi mattgriffin | 17:14 |
| mattgriffin | reed, HI :) | 17:14 |
| reed | nope, those are not the BOF proposals, those are the core of openstack planning phase | 17:15 |
| reed | those are sessions proposals that will go into the Design Summit, the discussions will happen in a secluded area where only OPenStack contributors are allowed to enter | 17:15 |
| mattgriffin | reed, ack | 17:16 |
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| reed | mattgriffin, we have a call for proposals for 'mini summits' for other open source projects | 17:19 |
| reed | mattgriffin, http://www.openstack.org/blog/2014/03/call-for-proposals-open-source-openstack-summit/ | 17:19 |
| mattgriffin | reed, will there be a BoF opportunity? we had a good discussion about clustered MySQL with Jay Pipes last Monday at our OpenStack Today event | 17:19 |
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| jaypipes | mattgriffin: mornin. | 17:20 |
| mattgriffin | jaypipes, :) hi jay | 17:20 |
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| droyo | sojoknuckle: IMO the only determining factor is the capabilities of the default kernel. RHEL and Debian-based distros both have packages that make it easy to setup | 17:21 |
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| droyo | sojoknuckle: Debian has a newer kernel. However, RHEL 6.5's kernel, which we use, has namespaces | 17:22 |
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| droyo | so just go with what you're used to. supporting two different distros isn't fun :) | 17:23 |
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| sojoknuckle | droyo: yes I have found that as well, do you think the new kernel give a something worth lookign at ? if i did look a debian distro would you recomend one ? | 17:23 |
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| reed | mattgriffin, there is space for 'in promptu' discussions... like an unconference... I think we have something different this year | 17:25 |
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| reed | jaypipes, do you think the discussion you had with mattgriffin can go in summit.openstack.org as a proposal? | 17:25 |
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| reed | mattgriffin, I may not be online later (in Europe currently) so chat with jaypipes as he knows very well what would be appropriate for the Design Summit | 17:31 |
| reed | mattgriffin, it may make sense to make a proposal there | 17:31 |
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| mattgriffin | reed, sounds good | 17:31 |
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| droyo | sojoknuckle: I haven't tried any, so I can't recommend one. A newer kernel may give better performance, and will open up the door for other backends like LXC should you want to do that in the future | 17:34 |
| sojoknuckle | droyo: cool that is exectly the answer i was looking for, sometime those kind of questions bring out the passion | 17:35 |
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| mtl1 | Hi. I'm doing an evaluation test setup of openstack. I'd like to get some thoughts on if I should be using Neutron for networking yet, or if it's advised to stick with nova-network still. I'm gathering that Neutron is going to replace nova-network soon, and if that's accurate, then it seems like I need to keep fighting trying to make it work. I am doing my setup with Icehouse, since the actual release for it is due out really soon. Than | 17:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | unless you have a specific case for neutron, i'd use nova-net | 18:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | errr, the other way around sorry | 18:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | specific case for nova-net | 18:02 |
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| mtl1 | Sam-I-Am: Thanks. The only case I have for it so far is that it's simple and works. | 18:18 |
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| mmidgett | Is there anyway to use a older hp fibersan as storage? | 18:28 |
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| devoid | so it appears that there is a bug in glance where it will return a 400 response and yet still create an entry in the images table? The image has a "queued" status and no disk-format or container-format. There is a size, but the disk is not on file anywhere. Glance api and registry logs indicate that a 200 response was returned. | 19:40 |
| devoid | https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-glanceclient/+bug/1029272 | 19:40 |
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| devoid | nginx reports that a 400 response was returned | 19:42 |
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| devoid | reply is: 400 Bad Request | 19:48 |
| devoid | Invalid disk format 'None' for image. | 19:48 |
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| devoid | but I'm passing in -H 'x-image-meta-disk_format: qcow2' | 19:49 |
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| devoid | any love? | 20:10 |
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| devoid | anyone ran into problems uploading glance images with an nginx reverse-proxy in front? | 20:20 |
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| FL1SK | annegentle_: are you there | 20:20 |
| FL1SK | for some reason my blog is not aggregating on planet.openstack.org | 20:20 |
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| FL1SK | is there anyone here that can check it | 20:21 |
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| FL1SK | should be aggregating from here http://blog.seader.us/search/label/OpenStack | 20:21 |
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| annegentle_ | FL1SK: hey | 20:22 |
| annegentle_ | FL1SK: taking a look | 20:22 |
| FL1SK | hi annegentle_ | 20:22 |
| FL1SK | thanks annegentle_ | 20:22 |
| FL1SK | its userid cseader | 20:22 |
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| FL1SK | annegentle_: I am boarding a plane.. Just leave a message.. if you can figure something out. | 20:25 |
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| annegentle_ | FL1SK: will do | 20:27 |
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| devoid | so turns out the solution is to turn on underscores_in_headers on; in nginx | 20:30 |
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| devoid | glance folks, I feel like this needs to be documented someplace besides a mirantis blog post from last year: http://www.cberendt.de/2013/11/using-nginx-with-the-glance-api/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=using-nginx-with-the-glance-api | 20:30 |
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| annegentle_ | FL1SK: I think https://review.openstack.org/85808 will fix - basically it needs a feed url rather than a link | 20:38 |
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| FL1SK | I'll try annegentle_ | 20:44 |
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| annegentle_ | FL1SK: I'll see if another pair of eyes can review it, it's not merged yet. Just theory :) | 20:55 |
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| bbhoss | Hi all. I'm trying to add a compute node to my cluster, but I am getting this error in the logs when I start it: "RemoteError: Remote error: UnsupportedVersion Endpoint does not support RPC version 2.0" https://gist.github.com/anonymous/3e0c6e3744aa1d4508dd | 22:58 |
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