Monday, 2014-04-07

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h6wNot getting any response over in the Swift channel.   I'm trying to change the IP of a storage node.  swift-ring-builder set_info worked perfectly and lists the new node.  However swift-recon is still checking the old IP.00:03
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h6wWhen I read the recon.py code it seems to be reading the *.ring.gz file rather than the *.builder file.00:04
h6wThe *.ring.gz file hasn't been touched.00:04
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h6wswift-ring-builder ... rebalance says "Cowardly refusing to save rebalance as it did not change at least 1%."00:07
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notmynameh6w: `swift-ring-builder write_ring`00:09
h6wAh.  The rebalance is definitely the issue.  One ring did rebalance and it's showing the correct IPs.00:09
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h6wnotmyname: Yep.  That did it.  Thanks! :-)00:10
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h6wnotmyname: Should I recopy the rings in that case?00:12
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notmynameh6w: copy? as in deploy them to all of your nodes? yes00:13
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h6wInteresting.  Why?  If swift-recon is responding correctly, what could go wrong?00:14
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notmynameh6w: I'm not sure of your question. if you update the rings, then you need to push the new .ring.gz files out to your cluster00:15
h6wThe reason I'm asking is that the rings themselves should be the same if the storage nodes state hasn't changed, no?00:15
h6wFor example, I have two proxies connected to my 5 storage nodes.  Each proxy contains a different IP for the nodes because they're in different locations.00:16
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h6wOr are you suggesting I should have one VPN with all the proxies and storage nodes on it, so the storage nodes all have the same IP set on each proxy?00:17
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notmynameh6w: the rings are also used for replication, so the ring file on each object server should have a reference to routable IPs for the other nodes00:19
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h6wSo how do the rings maintain consistent state between the two proxies when the proxies are in different IP ranges?00:19
notmynamewhat do you mean by consistent state?00:20
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notmynameeach proxy tracks it's own "view" of storage nodes in the cluster. eg if one proxy can't talk to a particular node, it will stop trying. even if another node can00:21
h6wWell, one proxy will have one set of IPs in the ring, and another proxy will have a different set of IPs in the ring.00:21
notmynamewhat do you mean by "set of IPs in the ring"?00:21
h6wIf I copy the rings to the storage nodes from proxy1, then they'll be different to the IPs in the rings in proxy2.00:21
h6wProxy 1 : http://ix.io/bwT    Proxy 2 : http://ix.io/bwV00:23
h6wProxy 1 has 3 local 192.168.0.0/24 and connects to region 2 via a VPN 10.9.8.0/24.00:25
notmynameah, I see00:25
h6wProxy 2 has 2 local 192.168.80.0/24 and connects to region 1 via VPN 10.8.0.0/24.00:26
* h6w thinks there's a bigger mistake here in his design.00:26
notmynameh6w: the storage nodes in the cluster, regardless of region, need to be able to talk to one another. ie mutually routable IPs00:26
h6wAhah!  So one big VPN is required for *all* storage nodes.00:27
notmynameand, in general, the same ring file everywhere is going to be a lot simple. also, it's the assumption of anyone you'll be asking questions to ;-)00:27
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h6wYeah.  This was kinda what I was trying to grasp last week with the whole co-lo being in different IP ranges problem.00:28
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h6wI thought there was magic going on between the proxies to route to storage nodes, but that was wrong, so this was my solution.00:28
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h6wNeed to go back to the drawing board.  :-p00:29
notmynameh6w: you'll find that swift generally does as little magic as possible and falls back to assuming "there is an operator or some management software"00:31
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notmynameh6w: each node, in general, only does message pushing. ie no polling or shared state. for example, expanding on the above statement, there isn't a view of the global cluster health anywhere inside of swift itself (eg something passed around via gossip or something else)00:32
notmynamemakes some ops tasks a little more tricky (or requires some automation), but it also means that there is much less that can go wrong and give you "death spirals" of failures00:33
h6wYeah, that was what led me to this situation.  I saw the storage nodes as "dumb" so it surprised me that the rings contained IPs at all.  I thought that was just a reference, not that they communicate with each other.00:33
h6wreference  = reference IP for the proxy00:34
notmynamethe ring files are a lookup table of the ring partitions to the storage volumes they are assigned to. and a storage volumes is referenced by (region, zone, IP:port, and mount point)00:34
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notmynameand the ring code takes that lookup table and knows how to read and write data and handle failures00:35
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notmynameh6w: are you good for now? I've got to run00:36
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h6wYep.  You're a great help as always.  Thanks again! :-D00:36
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notmynameglad to help00:36
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masonjoyersanyone available for neutron debugging?00:43
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ngm7hello02:07
ngm7I am facing an issue while following this guide - http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/nova-compute.html02:09
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mosorioHi! I was a problem with the live migrate on Ubuntu 14.04. Anyone with the problem? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/130353602:10
mosorioI had a*02:10
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ngm7I am trying to setup a multihost architecture. On my compute node however, none of the nova-compute / nova-network services are able to start. A syslog entry saying "nova-compute main process (2495) terminated with status 1"02:10
ngm7I see that this is an old bug however I am facing it and am a shade clueless on what is going wrong as there are no log messages generated either02:11
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ngm7any help is appreciated.02:43
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dgerstingQuick question for the room: I'm looking to setup a cloud for a small start-up company. Ignoring best practices for the moment, what's the minimum number of physical hosts needed for openstack?04:27
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xavpaice1, if you ignore best practices.  What are the workloads you want to run though?04:28
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xavpaiceand what sort of availability are you wanting out of it?  Do you need HA for stuff?04:29
dgerstinghm, I tried setting up a dev environment with 1 host, and hit a wall with the object storage part04:29
jblackit's tricky.04:29
jblackI pulled it off with 1 hypervisor and one management server. I set the management server up as an nfs server, that feeds primary and secondary to the xenserver that it lives on.04:30
dgerstingatm it would be core biz components; PBX (it's a VoIP company), billing, RADIUS/LDAP, and maybe 1 or 2 other things04:30
dgerstingHA would be needed for the BPX and Radius (core biz offering)04:30
jblackYou're not going to get HA out of one computer, friend.04:31
dgerstingyeah. right now we have 2 small boxes04:31
jblackwhat's small?04:31
xavpaiceyou'll want at least two compute nodes plus controllers, and shared storage04:31
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dgerstingthey're supermicro 1U boxes with Intel CPUS, about 4 or 8 Gig of RAM04:32
xavpaicedepending on your network needs you might want controllers as a pair for HA as well04:32
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jblackgetting full HA isn't cheap, since you have to duplicate everything all the way up to the stack.04:32
dgerstingyeah04:33
jblackTwo stacked switches. 2 bonded nics for each machine,  possibly you can get away with the managmenet nodes doing drbd dual active and serving nfs to the underlying xenservers...04:33
jblackadd in some heartbeat...04:34
* xavpaice wonders if the admin overhead is worth it for such a tiny setup. Better just to run up some VMs using KVM and do HA within the VMs?04:34
dgerstingour original plan was to run them as dedicated PBX's in HA mode using pacemaker04:34
jblackyou'd be better off that way. resource contention can make pbx's unpalatable real quick04:35
dgerstingKVM: I've wondered the same thing...  more exploring all the options atm04:35
jblackI wouldn't put asterisk on a vm unless the phone system isn't mission critical.04:36
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dgerstinghm...  Originally we were looking at using them as dedicated asterisk boxes but have since found freeSwitch with seems to play a lot better with VMs04:37
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dgerstingso I can take the numbers back to the owner; what would be the best practice for a bare-bones openStack setup?  1-2 nodes for the controller, 1+ compute nodes, and something more for object storage? (is object storage required or can it just use some shared block storage)04:39
jblackIf you say so. I'm not sure how any phone system is going to handle the timing needs while transcoding for multiple channels at once.04:39
jblackOn a shared system where it doesn't have control over iops or cpu.  but it will probably work as long as you over provision a bit.04:40
xavpaice+1 on that04:40
xavpaiceif you want to put the rest of your setup on VMs, but with HA, you'll need at least 2 hypervisor nodes04:41
xavpaiceand shared storage - NFS is meh but workable for small.  Ceph is great.04:41
xavpaicesmall setup with 3 combined storage and compute nodes, and a couple of controllers with pacemaker etc - that would scale up quite large so long as you invest enough in hardware04:42
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troyaHi All06:12
troyai have 2 machine which i want to setup openstack high availability inside06:13
troyai found reference from http://docs.openstack.org/high-availability-guide/content/ch-intro.html06:13
troyai want to setup active /passive method06:13
troyais there is diference in installation configuration if i want to build openstack HA ?06:14
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newbie1hello, any ?06:51
newbie1im on RDO and want to create volumes greater than 20Gb06:51
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Pryanim on RDO and want to create volumes greater than 20Gb07:01
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cooljPryan: what message do you get when you try?07:05
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troyaanyone have experience on pacemaker and corosync ?07:23
troyai want to build 2 machine to build openstack HA07:23
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troyai have configure pacemaker and corosync on both of my machine now07:23
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troyathen what should i do after that ? install openstack on both of server ? or just on one server ?07:24
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geurttroya: install the software on both servers and let corosync/pacemaker take care of the resources and where they are started or not07:25
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geurtbtw.. it is recommended to use corosync with an uneven number of nodes07:26
troyaso, i should install openstack as usual configuration on both of my machine07:26
geurtinstall it normally but not let it start automaticly on the default way07:27
geurtcorosync/pacemaker take care of it07:27
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geurtsometimes services can be active on multiple nodes but in other scenario's you want a active/passive07:28
troyahow i can configure it so that service not start automatically ?07:28
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troyaactually i want to configure as active / passive method07:29
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troyahow i can configure it so that service not start automatically ?  is not all off service will be start automatically by default,right ?07:30
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Pryancoolj: no valid host was found07:32
geurttroya: the command to disable/enable processes to start at boot differs per linux distribution.. look at the openstack installation manual on the website07:32
Pryanand in the logs07:32
Pryanvolume size excedeed 200/20 GB07:33
troyaguert: okay, let me try first07:33
troyahope working well07:33
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cooljPryan: http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide-admin/content/cli_set_quotas.html#cli_set_block_storage_quotas07:36
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mosulicaI have all instances working on all three nodes, but if I type #nova service list09:44
mosulicamy nova-compute are down09:45
mosulicaso I am not able to start new instances09:45
mosulicanova-conductor is running fine, I think09:45
mosulica http://pastebin.com/CXj3sSsN09:45
mosulicaany hint ?09:45
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Frazyhello10:29
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nekiniehey guys10:52
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pzdmrdhi10:56
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pzdmrdi can stack neutron, i get error when testing the test network10:57
pzdmrdsudo route add -net 10.0.0.0/24 gw 172.16.10.12910:57
pzdmrdSIOCADDRT: No such process10:58
pzdmrdand that makes sense to me because the system doesnt have such gw10:58
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pzdmrdalthough its creation is done in q-agt, q-l3 and q-svc   (screen logs show no error when setting this IP)11:01
pzdmrdany clue ?11:01
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admin0hello all11:09
admin0where can I find the tarballs/rpms for the latest icehouse11:09
nekinieI was just wondering if any one here has any input or experience with the packaging side of openstack11:10
nekinieand hello11:10
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nekinieI dont know about rpms as I dont use them11:10
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nekiniebut for tarballs11:11
admin0tarballs will do :)11:11
admin0all i end up is getting tarballs for specific projects and not one as a whole11:11
geurthttp://docs.openstack.org/trunk/install-guide/install/yum/content/basics-packages.html11:11
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geurthere you'll find icehouse installation instructions including the repositories to add11:11
nekinierpm, makes lice easyer11:11
nekinie*life11:11
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zipperWhat's the default root password for centOS on openstack?12:32
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zipperI used a disk image to set up the instance.12:32
zipperIt doesn't allow me to log in as root12:33
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admin0upgraded ..  i get SuspiciousOperation: Invalid HTTP_HOST header (you may need to set ALLOWED_HOSTS):  … i already have it in /etc/openstack-dashboard/local_settings .. what might be missing ?12:39
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jpichadmin0: Hey. Did you restart httpd after setting ALLOWED_HOSTS? Does the URL you're typing exactly matches what's in the variable?12:43
admin0did both12:45
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admin0yes to both i mean12:45
admin0maybe failing in validate_host12:45
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admin0http://pastebin.com/P4uTtGqU  .. i have in my /etc/openstack-dashboard/local_settings    ALLOWED_HOSTS = [ ‘host512.local.int’, ‘localhost’ ,’*’]12:52
admin0even set DEBUG = True12:53
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admin0i removed that check .. logged in .. now no /dashboard :)12:59
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atpa8ahow does one autostart instances?..13:03
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hrzbrghi, I’m setting up a testlab with ubuntu 14.04 and the icehouse rc1. so far my controller is running but nova-api wont come up because „/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/keys“ is missing. should I just create it, or is there something more about it?13:12
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fifieldthrzbrg, that sounds bad13:25
fifieldtcan you provide some info about your packages and config files and put in a bug?13:25
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hrzbrgwhen I create the folder everything is fine. I will try to reproduce it and write it down.13:29
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droyoI have an interesting problem; noVNC doesn't work in its iFrame in Horizon, but it works when I open the frame in its own window13:32
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fifieldtthanks hrzbrg!13:32
droyosays error code 1006, which I think is "Invaid Token"13:32
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tim|minthi all, what's the easiest way to test openstack? are there virtualbox images or something? i just want to get a feel for it13:44
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jokke_tim|mint: devstack#13:47
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tim|mintjokke_: awesome, thx!13:47
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afaranhaHello, I was looking for a Tempest channel but it doesn't have one, so I'm posting my questions here. I still didn't understand how to work with tempest, I read it but I'm not sure I understood it all. Does Tempest has tests or does it run tests made in openstack projects, is it only to run tests? How do I configure it? And is there another docs for Tempest although this (http://docs.openstack.org/developer/tempest/overview.html#quickstart)? Tha14:44
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atpa8adoes anyone know of a good ubuntu guide for all-in-one with neutron?..14:58
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atpa8adoes ubuntu 14.04 still have havana?15:05
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kvanalsQuick question if anyone can answer it -- does anyone know if anyone has done a VPAT for Section 508 compliance for Horizon?16:22
kvanalsI have a customer that requires such a thing before OpenStack can be deployed.16:23
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jokke_I have no idea what you are talking about, but that does not vote either way16:24
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vt102Is the summit in Atlanta worth going to, for somebody just getting started with creating/operating OpenStack?  Or is it more oriented towards developers only?16:45
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sc68calvt102: The summit has lots of sessions about running/operating openstack- that's the speaker track16:51
sc68calas well as the development track16:52
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sc68calvt102: here's the list of presentations - http://openstacksummitmay2014atlanta.sched.org/16:52
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sojoknucklenot looking to start the distro wars ;),    but other than knowledge about a specific distro has anyone found reasons to use one linux flavor over another for the base of the openstack setup.  I have it running on the RHEL style distros (because i have used them for years)17:14
mattgriffinreed, just came across http://summit.openstack.org/ ... are these BOF proposals? is there an info page that describes how these are reviewed and where they are in the Summit program?17:14
reedhi mattgriffin17:14
mattgriffinreed, HI :)17:14
reednope, those are not the BOF proposals, those are the core of openstack planning phase17:15
reedthose are sessions proposals that will go into the Design Summit, the discussions will happen in a secluded area where only OPenStack contributors are allowed to enter17:15
mattgriffinreed, ack17:16
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reedmattgriffin, we have a call for proposals for 'mini summits' for other open source projects17:19
reedmattgriffin, http://www.openstack.org/blog/2014/03/call-for-proposals-open-source-openstack-summit/17:19
mattgriffinreed, will there be a BoF opportunity? we had a good discussion about clustered MySQL with Jay Pipes last Monday at our OpenStack Today event17:19
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jaypipesmattgriffin: mornin.17:20
mattgriffinjaypipes, :) hi jay17:20
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droyosojoknuckle: IMO the only determining factor is the capabilities of the default kernel. RHEL and Debian-based distros both have packages that make it easy to setup17:21
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droyosojoknuckle: Debian has a newer kernel. However, RHEL 6.5's kernel, which we use, has namespaces17:22
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droyoso just go with what you're used to. supporting two different distros isn't fun :)17:23
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sojoknuckledroyo: yes I have found that as well,  do you think the new kernel give a something worth lookign at ?  if i did look a debian distro would you recomend one ?17:23
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reedmattgriffin, there is space for 'in promptu' discussions... like an unconference... I think we have something different this year17:25
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reedjaypipes, do you think the discussion you had with mattgriffin can go in summit.openstack.org as a proposal?17:25
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reedmattgriffin, I may not be online later (in Europe currently) so chat with jaypipes as he knows very well what would be appropriate for the Design Summit17:31
reedmattgriffin, it may make sense to make a proposal there17:31
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mattgriffinreed, sounds good17:31
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droyosojoknuckle: I haven't tried any, so I can't recommend one. A newer kernel may give better performance, and will open up the door for other backends like LXC should you want to do that in the future17:34
sojoknuckledroyo: cool that is exectly the answer i was looking for, sometime those kind of questions bring out the passion17:35
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mtl1Hi. I'm doing an evaluation test setup of openstack. I'd like to get some thoughts on if I should be using Neutron for networking yet, or if it's advised to stick with nova-network still. I'm gathering that Neutron is going to replace nova-network soon, and if that's accurate, then it seems like I need to keep fighting trying to make it work.  I am doing my setup with Icehouse, since the actual release for it is due out really soon. Than17:47
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Sam-I-Amunless you have a specific case for neutron, i'd use nova-net18:02
Sam-I-Amerrr, the other way around sorry18:02
Sam-I-Amspecific case for nova-net18:02
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mtl1Sam-I-Am: Thanks. The only case I have for it so far is that it's simple and works.18:18
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mmidgettIs there anyway to use a older hp fibersan as storage?18:28
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devoidso it appears that there is a bug in glance where it will return a 400 response and yet still create an entry in the images table? The image has a "queued" status and no disk-format or container-format. There is a size, but the disk is not on file anywhere. Glance api and registry logs indicate that a 200 response was returned.19:40
devoidhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/python-glanceclient/+bug/102927219:40
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devoidnginx reports that a 400 response was returned19:42
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devoidreply is: 400 Bad Request19:48
devoidInvalid disk format 'None' for image.19:48
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devoidbut I'm passing in -H 'x-image-meta-disk_format: qcow2'19:49
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devoidany love?20:10
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devoidanyone ran into problems uploading glance images with an nginx reverse-proxy in front?20:20
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FL1SKannegentle_: are you there20:20
FL1SKfor some reason my blog is not aggregating on planet.openstack.org20:20
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FL1SKis there anyone here that can check it20:21
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FL1SKshould be aggregating from here http://blog.seader.us/search/label/OpenStack20:21
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annegentle_FL1SK: hey20:22
annegentle_FL1SK: taking a look20:22
FL1SKhi annegentle_20:22
FL1SKthanks annegentle_20:22
FL1SKits userid cseader20:22
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FL1SKannegentle_: I am boarding a plane.. Just leave a message.. if you can figure something out.20:25
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annegentle_FL1SK: will do20:27
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devoidso turns out the solution is to turn on underscores_in_headers on; in nginx20:30
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devoidglance folks, I feel like this needs to be documented someplace besides a mirantis blog post from last year: http://www.cberendt.de/2013/11/using-nginx-with-the-glance-api/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=using-nginx-with-the-glance-api20:30
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annegentle_FL1SK: I think https://review.openstack.org/85808 will fix - basically it needs a feed url rather than a link20:38
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FL1SKI'll try annegentle_20:44
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annegentle_FL1SK: I'll see if another pair of eyes can review it, it's not merged yet. Just theory :)20:55
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NeikosYo22:52
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bbhossHi all. I'm trying to add a compute node to my cluster, but I am getting this error in the logs when I start it: "RemoteError: Remote error: UnsupportedVersion Endpoint does not support RPC version 2.0" https://gist.github.com/anonymous/3e0c6e3744aa1d4508dd22:58
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