Tuesday, 2014-04-15

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larsksSam-I-am: belated pong....01:28
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Sam-I-Amlarsks: hello01:37
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Sam-I-Amlarsks: not sure if this interests you https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=108764701:38
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larsksSam-I-Am: I think that somewhere I read about a plan to just ditch the use of multiple config files and just stick with neutron.conf, which would nicely solve this particular problem.  But I'm not sure where that is.02:30
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larsksSince this looks like a simple fix, I'll see if can find time for it this week.02:31
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Sam-I-Amso... even the plugin config goes into neutron.conf?02:32
Sam-I-Amand the agents?02:32
larsksLike I said, I can't remember what the details were...02:32
larsksIt's possible I am hallucinating.02:32
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Sam-I-Amheh02:33
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Sam-I-Amwell, we're rolling pretty well with the install guide for this release02:33
Sam-I-Amhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/IcehouseDocTesting02:33
Sam-I-Ami dont think its ever looked like that02:33
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larsksNice.  Re: F20, I thought that the most of the binaries in the mariadb packages still used the "mysql" names...am I wrong about that?  I don't have an F20 system in front of me right now.02:36
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Sam-I-Ami... dont know. i havent tested f2002:38
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larsksHmm.  I guess I will add that to my list of things to look at When I Have The Time.02:38
Sam-I-Amthere's always time02:38
Sam-I-Amthats what cocaine is for lol02:39
larsksHah.02:39
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Sam-I-Amits been quite a project updating the install guide to integrate neutron better02:40
fifieldtlarsks, you're right02:40
fifieldtbut unfortunately there's enough difference that things go screwy02:40
larsksfifieldt: Well, yay.02:40
larsksfifieldt: Oh, poo.02:40
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fifieldtyeah :s02:41
fifieldtit is easy enough to work around02:41
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fifieldtbut it means quite a different section for centos/rhel and fedora 2002:41
fifieldtso still not sure how to write thtat02:41
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Sam-I-Amwell, at least we break fedora out already by os conditional02:41
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bethhi all03:22
bethi have openstack machine running03:22
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bethwhy vm which i have created cannot connect to internet ?03:22
bethwhereas my openstack machine connected to internet03:22
bethmy openstack machine have gateway 192.168.0.103:23
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bethmy vm have fixed ip=10.0.0.x and float ip=192.168.0.x03:24
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bethis there missing configuration ?03:24
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bethanyone know why my instance cannot connect to internet ?03:37
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zipperShould I accept packets on lo and eth0 on a VM on openstack?04:23
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voxadam_I just started reading the OpenStack docs. I was wondering what the reason for the 5 GB limit on storage ojects is.04:36
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Kupo24zHey all, I've setup a flat-networking openstack cluster with juju however the networking config area seems to be missing in horizon. Nova network shows running on all compute nodes however. Any ideas?04:44
voxadam_Nevermind, the docs explain the reasoning of the object size limitation a few sections down.04:46
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mardanhello friends I am developing cinder drivers, but i don't know which files are available to modify in cinder module???/Plzzz help me06:30
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mardanhello friends I am developing cinder drivers, but i don't know which files are available to modify in cinder module???/Plzzz help me06:32
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mardanhello friends I am developing cinder drivers, but i don't know which files are available to modify in cinder module???/Plzzz help me06:44
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sgranthere's not need to repeat yourself every few minutes06:44
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mosulicaERROR: 409-{u'NeutronError': {u'message': u"Quota exceeded for resources: ['security_group']", u'type': u'OverQuota', u'detail': u''}} (HTTP 413)07:17
mosulicaand I have only 10 rules07:17
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eve__hi all07:31
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eve__anyone know why my instance cannot acces to internet ?07:32
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eve__when i try to ping  i got From 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=2 Redirect Host(New nexthop: 192.168.2.1)07:35
eve__192.168.0.1 is my openstack machine which be gateway of instance07:36
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eve__anyone know my issue ?08:17
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LexisHello everyone08:40
Lexishas anyone experience with monitoring and Backup of OpenStack platform ?08:41
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ilivesdear stackers, i have setuped 4 nodes openstac icehouse-rc1 using devstack with neutron enabled and cannot provision instances, the schelduler complains NoValidHost Exception09:44
ilives<ilives> checked the two compute nodes i found this error is flooded in the nova-compute log. The error is "Timed out waiting for nova-conductor. Is it running? Or did this service start before nova-conductor?"09:44
ilivesanyone know what causes the scheduler failed to pick up the host for vm and anything to do with the error message pops up in compute node?thanks!09:45
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jwwwwHello.09:54
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jwwwwI'm learning a bout openstack, to make a cluster for data storage. Do I need to use Cinder to do that ? I'm not sure to understand.10:04
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zenlambdaI am getting a 404 error while trying to create a new instance on a dedicated compute node10:09
zenlambdahttp://paste.openstack.org/show/75744/10:09
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zenlambdaits seems like nova is paginating through security groups10:10
zenlambdabut i am sure I configured the noop firewal driver in both nova and neutron10:10
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zenlambdaany ideas?10:10
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zenlambdathis is my first time getting neutron working with a dedicated compute node. neutron-server is colocated on combine controller/compute node. creating instances on the combined controller/compute node works fine10:12
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zenlambdamust there always be a default security group in nova?10:16
zenlambdaI think the problem is I have some left over security groups from back when I was using a firewall with nova-network10:17
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zenlambdaUnable to delete system group 'default'10:18
zenlambdaright... nova answered my question :)10:18
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zenlambdadeleting the rules doesnt help10:22
zenlambda neutron security-group-list10:23
zenlambda404 Not Found10:23
zenlambdaso maybe if i create a default security group in neutron nova will be happy?10:23
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zenlambdaroot@caterham:~# neutron security-group-create default --description default10:27
zenlambda404 Not Found10:27
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zenlambdaright so maybe there are no security groups because I am using the noopfirewall plugin10:28
zenlambdaso how do I make nova happy?10:28
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LehtuxCan I run my VM's through object storage?11:18
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LehtuxHaving hard time to find 3-way OpenStack solutions: control,compute and storage11:19
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jokke_Lehtux: I'm not sure what you are trying to do, but if you are asking if your VM system disks can be like swift object, the answer would be no11:31
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Lehtuxjokke_: I need a solution so that when compute node fails it starts on a another node --> it needs a shared storage?11:33
Lehtuxit = VM11:33
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sepLehtux, have you looked at ceph. ?11:36
sepi am a openstack novice. but i think you can also look at gluster or nfs11:37
jokke_Lehtux: yes the hosts needs shared storage.11:37
resilient_yuboHello, in horizon it says that compressed image binaries are supported (tar.gz, zip) but when I upload a compressed image, I can't boot from it. From the console, I get "No boot device", any idea?11:38
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Lehtuxsep: no not really, read about it of course but can't seem to find architectural examples for it11:41
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mathias__hi, I was wondering if security groups work at all with neutron in place. I just created an empty security group which - from my understanding should block all traffic and I can still SSH into the instance12:14
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larsksmathias__: Security groups do work with neutron.12:47
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OrmucoJCCould someone please assist me. I'm new and have done my first test deployment.13:19
OrmucoJCI'm having issues with getting an instance started13:20
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OrmucoJC2014-04-15 09:11:57.347 1592 TRACE nova.openstack.common.rpc.amqp   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/nova/compute/manager.py", line 1409, in prep_block_device13:20
OrmucoJC2014-04-15 09:11:57.347 1592 TRACE nova.openstack.common.rpc.amqp     raise exception.InvalidBDM()13:20
OrmucoJC2014-04-15 09:11:57.347 1592 TRACE nova.openstack.common.rpc.amqp InvalidBDM: Block Device Mapping is Invalid.13:20
OrmucoJC2014-04-15 09:11:57.347 1592 TRACE nova.openstack.common.rpc.amqp13:20
OrmucoJCIn the log13:20
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kitpso...i tried to snapshot a handful of instance, and now they appear to be stuck in various states of the process.  how do i recover from something in a task_state of image_snapshot?13:46
riflehi! i'm installing a brand new openstack havana + nova-network with ubuntu 12.0413:46
Kupo24zHey all, I've setup a flat-networking openstack cluster with juju however the networking config area seems to be missing in horizon. Nova network shows running on all compute nodes however. Any ideas?13:47
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riflelots of questions at the sime time :p13:47
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jpichKupo24z: Hey. The networking panels in Horizon are only available with Neutron (OpenStack Networking) set up13:48
Kupo24zjpich: Ah okay, so I should be able to set a fixed range in nova.conf and be good to go?13:48
jpichKupo24z: I believe so, yes!13:49
Kupo24zjpich: is that required on all nova-network (compute nodes) and the nova-api controller node?13:49
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jpichKupo24z: I'm not too familiar with that, sorry13:50
kitpbad timing.  :)13:50
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pdklim building a case to go from AWS To OpenStack14:46
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Diablo-D3pdkl: oh thats easy14:46
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Diablo-D3aws costs several times more than a bunch of cheap dedis running openstack14:47
pdklone question that comes up, can we still use AWS to handle VMs14:47
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pdklis it possible to use openstack api to talk to AWS?14:47
pdklnot sure im asking the right question14:47
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pdklDiablo-D3:thank =) ill make that #114:48
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cjdchello all16:16
cjdccan someone tell me if the config drive feature in openstack provides more security against outside spoofing than the regular metada service?16:17
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larskscjdc: *outside* spoofing shouldn't be possible with the network metadata service, since the metadata url -- 169.254.169.254 -- should never be able to route beyond your openstack environment.16:18
cjdclarsks: but then is the metada service completely secure?16:18
cjdclarsks: in a point where I can pass 'secrets' to the VM's16:19
larsksI don't know about that.  I'm just saying that external spoofing seems unlikely.16:19
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larsksInternally, access to the metadata service is authorized by ip address, which is *generally* reliable within the openstack environment but is arguably not a great security credential.16:20
larsksOf course, you could place encrypted data into user-data and then provision images with the necessary private key to decrypt.16:20
cjdcbut then I would still need to pass the decrypting key to the VM's...16:21
larsksYup.16:21
cjdcso the issue remains16:21
cjdcbut the main question is16:21
cjdcare there any security advantgaes in using config drive instead of usual metada16:21
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larsksActually, if you enable config drive, is the data *still* available via the metadata service?16:23
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cjdcso there is no difference in the mechanism?16:26
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larskscjdc: I'm not sure.  That was a real question -- I don't know whether or not enabling config-drive affects the availability of the data via the metadata service.16:28
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cjdcI was checking and I don't think so16:34
cjdclarsks: I didn't see any of the files I gave to config drive in the metadata16:35
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coredumphow do I list instances per host again?16:35
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larskscoredump: are you lookig for "virsh list", or something via the openstack api?16:38
coredumpjust a quick way to see what is running where16:38
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kitpi've heard rumor that the 'nova backup' command is going to get deprecated...any truth to that?  i don't want to build my archive strategy on it if so.  should i just create and download images?16:41
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larskscoredump: "nova show" will show the host on which a particular instance is running.  You could script that, maybe?16:41
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itarchitectkevcoredump, whilst nova-manage still exists: sudo nova-manage vm list16:41
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itarchitectkevcoredump, nova hypervisor-servers <hypervisorname> will list the instances on that hypervisor/host16:43
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coredumpcan't do that with a normal user.16:44
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coredumpwill fix the policy thoiugh16:44
coredumpthanks16:44
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itarchitectkevcoredump, different request then… which leads to why a non-admin would want to know where their instance is running...16:45
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coredumpyou are correct.16:45
coredumpnvm16:45
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tracphilIs it possible to have multiple non-contigous CIDR's for floating IP's or do the  IP's have to be contigous?17:39
ev0ldaveit is possible to have multiple floating ip subnets17:39
ev0ldavenon contiguous17:40
ev0ldaveyou just have to set an ip for each one on the external interface17:40
ev0ldavefor routing17:40
tracphilev0ldave: no matter the networking method chosen?17:40
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ev0ldavecorrect17:40
ev0ldavewell, i take that back17:41
ev0ldavei haven't done it with a flat network17:41
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tracphilgotcha, I wasn't even thinking of flat networks. Thanks!17:41
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tracphilNow, with that down, I have been pooring over Cloudstack for some months now, but the dev list is a bit wacky trying to get releases out the door.17:42
tracphilWhat method are most people using for networking with the use case of wanting to provide VPC's17:43
ev0ldaveso on my br-ex i have eth1.305, eth1.306 and eth1.307 on the bridge each with an ip from the corresponding floating pool17:43
tracphilNice. For some reason I thought Openstack had to have contigous IP's... which I thought was a bit odd.17:43
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ev0ldaveyou have to give it a subnet for the floating point, you can't just say use this this and that over there17:44
ev0ldavemaybe that is what you read or heard17:44
tracphilI think you are correct in my assumption.17:45
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tracphilOne last question for the day :). If you are using neutron and that host goes down, does your whole outbound traffic fall on its face? From what I see in the doc's it seems as though all traffic passes through neutron servers to the public internet. Is this true?17:47
ev0ldaveyes, that is true17:47
tracphilthanks for the confirmation. Strike off neutron from the list.17:48
ev0ldavei am currently looking into setting up lacp with multiple gre to two neutron servers17:48
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tracphilnice.17:48
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crhyloveThe 17th?!?  I thought the new release was coming out today.  WAUGH!!18:00
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BillTheKatBillTheKat  I am trying to create an openstack environment with multiple external networks. I have what appears to be a catch 22. I am starting with a single VLAN based Fuel deployment and then modifying the configuration. According to the docs I need to create the external network to get an ID for the L3-agent config. I want to create the new external network as physnet3 (physnet1 is initial ext net, physnet2 is my private V18:31
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BillTheKatAlso I have added physnet3:br-ex2 to my bridge_mapping in ovs plugin  ini18:32
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pk09hello18:39
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BillTheKatIs there anyone that can answer a few questions in setting up an environment with multiple external networks18:45
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annegentlehey BillTheKat looks like the usual suspects aren't online right now, have you tried to get support from mirantis for Fuel?18:55
BillTheKatyes18:56
BillTheKatwill go back and try again18:56
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annegentleBillTheKat: you can also search http://ask.openstack.org for similar questions18:56
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BillTheKatwill do thanks18:59
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annegentleBillTheKat: this might also help http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-ops/content/network_troubleshooting.html#trouble_shooting_ovs18:59
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BillTheKathanks19:00
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coredumphey, I am getting this qemu-img: error while reading sector 4096: Input/output error\n when trying a migration. Anyone saw that before?19:16
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Kupo24zI'm attempting to setup a simple flat network with no bridge (VM's have direct routing via  public IP). I can't seem to create the fixed network without a bridge 'nova network-create --fixed-range-v4', Is a bridge really required or am I doing something wrong?19:23
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ev0ldavea bridge is required, by default the flat networks use br10019:24
ev0ldavethe virtual interfaces must connect to something, in that case being br100 tied to an interface19:24
Kupo24zI'm trying to eliminate a bottleneck where all traffic has to route through one point, would creating br100 on each compute node solve this?19:24
ev0ldaveyou dont need to create br100 by hand, nova will do it for you19:24
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ev0ldaveand yes19:24
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ev0ldavethat is how i run my grizzly setup, each compute runs nova-network then i have iptables route to send metadata traffic to my metadata server19:25
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Kupo24zev0ldave: should i be able to see br100 after running nova network-create?19:27
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ev0ldaveyou should see br100 before you ever create the network19:28
Kupo24zMaybe thats the issue, dont have br100 configured19:28
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ev0ldavehere is my nova network config19:28
ev0ldavehttp://pastebin.com/bbhYaykA19:29
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ev0ldavei called out flat_network_bridge, but it defaults to br10019:29
Kupo24zthe fixed_range can be a public ip correct?19:30
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kitpdoes anybody use the 'nova backup' utility?19:33
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ev0ldaveKupo24z: no, the fixed range is private19:34
ev0ldavei just route my private range at the router since it is an internal use case only19:34
ev0ldaveso no need for floaters19:34
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tracphilWhat speed switches do you use?20:00
ev0ldave20 gbit20:03
ev0ldave2 10gbit lacp on cisco nexus20:03
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ev0ldavein the cisco ucs chassis20:03
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tracphilholy cow20:04
tracphilI used to work on UCS... nice stuff20:04
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ev0ldaveit's a bit of overkill for the outgoing network traffic, only about 60 instances per compute20:06
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ev0ldavebut i use them mainly for running the instances on shared netapp storage20:07
tracphilI am looking at Ceph for storage and will need a lot of bandwith between nodes I think.20:07
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ev0ldaveat 20 gbit, the netapp craps itself long before i can over load it, ran into that issue running spark and hadoop clusters on it, the netapp nfs card would get overloaded and all the instances would go read only20:09
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PsionTheorytest20:31
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Mstaaravinhello everyone20:33
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Mstaaravinanyone know what is the correct ifcfg-* files config (Centos) for this example...? http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/yum/content/section_networking-provider-router_with-provate-networks.html20:34
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ev0ldavemstaaravin, it really depends on your network you are attaching to20:36
ev0ldavevlan or no vlan20:36
Mstaaravinvlan20:36
Mstaaravinbut, i'm really confused with SO config20:36
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ev0ldaveSO?20:36
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MstaaravinSystem Operative20:37
MstaaravinCentos in my case20:37
Mstaaravinfor example20:37
Mstaaravinthe DATA network, in Centos the IP is assigned to physical interface or br-ethX interface...?20:37
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ev0ldavei see20:37
Mstaaravini test both cases and i can't get any results20:38
ev0ldavewell, with neutron, it will handle where it puts the ips20:38
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coredumphey, I am getting this qemu-img: error while reading sector 4096: Input/output error\n when trying a migration. Anyone saw that before? Also happen when I try to run qemu-img manually.20:39
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Mstaaravinev0ldave, thanks20:39
ev0ldavehang on, i'll grab my config20:39
Mstaaravinnow i'm trying with GRE20:40
FunnyLookinHatI just spun up a fresh devstack installation on Ubuntu 14.04 - but when I go to create an instance there is only one option under Availability Zones: "No availability zones found" - but I have "internal" listed on my Host Aggregates page as a zone20:40
Mstaaravinbut l3-agent doesn't start correctly http://pastebin.com/ycRdNDDr20:40
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ev0ldavemstaaravin, i'm not sure if centos kernel supports namespaces, i would imagine it does but i've only used ubuntu20:41
MstaaravinFunnyLookinHat, i think you need list Availability zones with correct tenant permissions20:41
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ev0ldavemstaaravin, run  a ps -ef | grep nova on your network node20:43
larsksev0ldave: centos 6.5 supports namespaces.20:43
ev0ldaveand make sure you network components are loading the correct plugin20:43
Mstaaravini'm using Centos 6.520:43
ev0ldavein ubuntu, the ml2 plugin would get loaded no matter what i called out in the config, i had to edit the start scripts to point to the openvswitch ini file20:43
Mstaaravinand, i don't see errors about plugin20:43
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ev0ldavemstaaravin:  http://paste.openstack.org/show/75824/20:48
ev0ldaveeth0 is my management/api network, that can be split into two interfaces if you want them separat20:49
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ev0ldaveeth1 is br-ex or floating IP space20:49
ev0ldaveeth2 is my GRE tunnel endpoints20:49
ev0ldaveshould be able to adapt those settings to centos20:50
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ev0ldavemstaaravin:  plus output from openvswitch:  http://paste.openstack.org/show/75826/20:52
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Mstaaravinev0ldave, thanks20:54
Mstaaravini see you use Debian derivate20:54
MstaaravinUbuntu right..?20:54
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ev0ldaveyes20:57
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sgregory_ipcIs there a list of all the objects in openstack that have metadata? Is it restricted to only Servers and Images?21:00
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aru_I am making a heat api call for creating a stack. I am gettiting http 400 response with header line too long response21:54
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aru_I wonder if it is related to this https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-keystoneclient/+bug/118617721:54
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cleverfoohey folks can someone tell me what I”m looking at here: [pid: 29292|app: 0|req: 308/5343] 10.30.7.200 () {40 vars in 542 bytes} [Tue Apr 15 22:04:44 2014] POST /v2.0/tokens => generated 7744 bytes in 147 msecs (HTTP/1.1 200) 3 headers in 93 bytes (1 switches on core 1)22:04
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cleverfookeystone_main logs22:05
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cleverfoothis is all very odd to be, for one that “generated X bytes” varies like crazy22:05
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cleverfoofrom 100’s or bytes to 7k bytes22:05
cleverfooand the amount of time it takes is variable as well22:05
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cleverfooanything from 100 msecs to 10,000 msec22:06
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cleverfooI have keystone running on a vm22:10
cleverfoonot sure if that matters but taking so long to generate a token is quite odd22:10
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cleverfooanyone?22:15
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ev0ldaveit shouldn't matter, i have all of my services managers running on a single vm22:17
ev0ldavewhat backend store are you using?  and have you timed the queries in it?22:18
cleverfoopki22:19
cleverfoowith a mysql backend22:19
cleverfoosorry I lied22:20
cleverfoowe change it to the memcached backend a few months back22:20
cleverfoothe piece that’s surprising to me is just how slow the token creation is and why it varies in size22:20
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cleverfoohere’s the gist of my keystone config https://gist.github.com/anonymous/1078320222:22
cleverfoono secrets in there22:22
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cleverfoo@ev0ldave ^^^22:24
ev0ldavelooking, have you enabled slow query logging in mysql?22:24
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ev0ldavethat is usually the bottleneck if it is shared with other services outside of openstack22:25
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ev0ldaveor your vm host is overloaded22:25
cleverfoohmmm22:25
cleverfoolet me check on the slow query log22:26
ev0ldavealso check your vm store IO22:26
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cleverfooev0ldave: how so?22:27
cleverfooah22:27
cleverfoothese are qcow iles on SSD22:27
cleverfoofiles on SSD22:27
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ev0ldaveok22:28
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cleverfoohttps://gist.github.com/anonymous/1078375322:28
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cleverfoothe box is busy , but honestly I never seem that keystone_main.log throw anything less than 1000 msec for a token22:28
cleverfooand it seems like we’re always creating tokens with POST to /tokens22:29
cleverfooI thought PKI would allow for more client side token validation22:29
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cleverfoo@ev0ldave slow query logs enabled22:30
cleverfoopulling those22:31
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Kupo24zev0ldave: You said you had an iptables rule for the metdata server, do you mind sharing that if possible? I'm getting timeouts on calling 169.254.169.25422:42
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cleverfoo@ev0ldave https://gist.github.com/anonymous/1078499322:44
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ev0ldavecleverfoo:  not seeing a token being generated in there22:52
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cleverfoo@ev0ldave nope nothing from keystone22:53
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cleverfooagain, it’s just super strange how this works22:55
cleverfooanyone has any experience with uuid?22:55
cleverfootokens that is22:56
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openstackstatusNOTICE: Restarting gerrit really quick to fix replication issue23:58
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