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MrCurious | anyone know anything about installing icehouse on the latest ubuntu? | 04:28 |
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MrCurious | i have come to the conclusion that ubuntu while it says it has icehouse, lacks any instalation information | 06:34 |
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iggy | apt-get install openstack? | 06:39 |
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MrCurious | the packages are there, but i dont believe it does the config magic | 06:44 |
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MrCurious | been looking at juju, but it seems that it wants to install it to machines OTHER than the juju host | 06:44 |
MrCurious | looking like i will have to follow the openstack icehouse install guide | 06:45 |
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iggy | yeah, ubuntu is a distribution, not a configuration managment system | 06:47 |
MrCurious | maybe devstack is worth a second look | 06:49 |
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sparky43786 | hey I just got some block storage working for the first time! | 06:59 |
MrCurious | nice! | 06:59 |
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sparky43786 | yeah.. boot from volume.. check. | 07:00 |
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sparky43786 | it's my first openstack running on debian jessie/icehouse | 07:02 |
sparky43786 | i've made four computers run one virtual one! | 07:02 |
iggy | lol, efficient use of resources | 07:02 |
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sparky43786 | controller, nfs, network, compute | 07:02 |
sparky43786 | = one mail cleaner | 07:02 |
MrCurious | all on one machine | 07:03 |
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sparky43786 | I did the nfs, but I think I'll do up the iscsi too | 07:04 |
sparky43786 | but first block storage | 07:05 |
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sparky43786 | and to add a little challenge to my first install, the network and compute nodes are ltsp nodes | 07:06 |
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overlayer_kiwi | hello folks, I'm trying to upgrade havana to icehouse, including neutron, after multiple issues solved which I intend to share through the documentation I now face the following problem launching nova-compute at my compute node: | 11:10 |
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overlayer_kiwi | *starting nova-compute | 11:10 |
overlayer_kiwi | NovaException: vif_type parameter must be present for this vif_driver implementation | 11:10 |
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madko | Hi, when installing icehouse from packstack, the Member role seems to be missing, is it normal? | 12:59 |
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_cmd_ | the official xenserver compute-node integration is admittedly unsatisfactory (and flagged for update)... is there a better reference for configuring xenserver as a compute node? i *think* that i have all the xapi/plugins installed correctly, but i can't find detail on what needs to be done with regards to creating the paravirtualized domU virtual machine. | 13:36 |
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madko | nova compute seems to crash when deleting an instance when its ovs ports don't exist | 14:03 |
madko | is it normal? | 14:03 |
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madko | is packstack fine to install openstack on multiple nodes? it doesn't seem to work | 14:05 |
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corntoegoblin | did you configure an answer file? | 14:06 |
madko | yes | 14:06 |
corntoegoblin | how does it "not work" | 14:06 |
madko | Member role doesn't exist, mostly the launching instance from horizon is broken | 14:07 |
madko | seems ceilometer is ko too on compute nodes | 14:07 |
corntoegoblin | have you checked nova logs to see why the instances fail? | 14:07 |
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madko | nova url point to 127.0.0.1 on compute node, for neutron.conf, not sure if normal | 14:07 |
madko | in nova log: Failed to close augeas aug_close: do_aug_close: you must call 'aug-init' first to initialize Augeas | 14:08 |
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madko | lauching instance from command line seems to go further than from horizon | 14:09 |
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madko | my instance appears in virsh list, but in paused state | 14:10 |
corntoegoblin | Im not really sure on that error, augeas is a part of puppet. as for the url, depends on ur network topology | 14:11 |
madko | the error is exception.VirtualInterfaceCreateException | 14:11 |
corntoegoblin | ah, have u checked neutron/quantum logs? | 14:12 |
madko | https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/26938/virtualinterfacecreateexception-virtual-interface-creation-failed/ I've just found this | 14:12 |
madko | no error in neutron log on the compute node | 14:13 |
corntoegoblin | neutron lives on network host | 14:13 |
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madko | TRACE neutron.notifiers.nova Unauthorized: The request you have made requires authentication. (HTTP 401) | 14:14 |
madko | should I rerun packstack with -d ? | 14:15 |
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corntoegoblin | sure, but if you dont know what to look for its a needle in a hay stack lol | 14:16 |
corntoegoblin | have you tried an all in one? | 14:16 |
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madko | all-in-one was working, I need a multi-node setup to try serious things | 14:19 |
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_cmd_ | this is the first time in a week i've seen anybody try to answer a question *grin* | 14:20 |
corntoegoblin | bored sysadmin at work lol | 14:21 |
madko | are you using openstack for real ? | 14:21 |
corntoegoblin | not production but yes im messing with it. | 14:22 |
madko | with multiple nodes? | 14:22 |
corntoegoblin | im struggling with multinodes also, but i have a networking issue | 14:22 |
_cmd_ | hehehe.... hopefully i can get some help on my xenserver compute node question when i get back from breakfast... | 14:22 |
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madko | we are struggling with openstack for years now, still nothing stable enough for production | 14:22 |
madko | home made django app to manage our clouds | 14:23 |
corntoegoblin | yea i would trust just about any other virt platform right now over openstack. but then again, i've never gotten it to fully work | 14:24 |
madko | same here. And even if it works, I don't see how we can manage thousands of vm with Horizon | 14:25 |
corntoegoblin | yup same here. seems like hooking into the api with your own software is the way to go | 14:26 |
madko | exactly | 14:26 |
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madko | have to go, bye and thanks for the help corntoegoblin | 14:41 |
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setuid | Anyone have an xmind compatible OpenStack ecosystem mind map out there? The one on xmind.net is not downloadable. | 16:28 |
setuid | I could start one from scratch, but I'd rather build on someone else's work and contribute back | 16:29 |
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Yannovitch | hi there | 17:16 |
Yannovitch | i get this question has been answered dozens of times | 17:17 |
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Yannovitch | but what is the easiest way to have a production environment all-in-one installation of OpenStack on a single node, single NIC machine (with Ubuntu if possible) ? | 17:19 |
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MrCurious | Yannovitch: thats what i am doing | 17:21 |
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MrCurious | it was workable nicely with havanah | 17:21 |
MrCurious | trying icehouse now | 17:21 |
Yannovitch | not with icehouse ? | 17:21 |
Yannovitch | ok | 17:21 |
MrCurious | as you install, reccomend you take a dd snapshot of the partition between steps so you can easily roll back when things go wrong | 17:22 |
Yannovitch | are you using devstack ? | 17:22 |
Yannovitch | or rdo openstack ? | 17:22 |
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MrCurious | i think the hardest part with havanah was getting the bridge set right | 17:22 |
MrCurious | http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/install-guide/install/apt/content/keystone-install.html | 17:22 |
MrCurious | following the guide | 17:22 |
MrCurious | dev stack will bring it up fast and let you play with it, but i think its not the solution if you want to make vm's and use it long term | 17:23 |
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Yannovitch | okay so you just followed all the steps of the install guide ? | 17:30 |
Yannovitch | @MrCurious ? | 17:30 |
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MrCurious | ? | 17:33 |
MrCurious | for havanah yeah. doing same now for icehouse | 17:33 |
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Yannovitch | and what are the parts of the install guide where i have to do a special configuration for the single node all in one installation ? ( for bridged networking, …) ? | 17:34 |
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MrCurious | dont know yet. | 17:34 |
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MrCurious | note: read the comments on all install pages. often they contain the fundamental clue, as in some cases th doc is in error | 17:35 |
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_cmd_ | the official xenserver compute-node integration is admittedly unsatisfactory (and flagged for update)... is there a better reference for configuring xenserver as a compute node? i *think* that i have all the xapi/plugins installed correctly, but i can't find detail on what needs to be done with regards to creating the paravirtualized domU virtual machine. | 17:50 |
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Yannovitch | _cmd_ can you give more details ? | 17:56 |
_cmd_ | sure... gimme a sec | 17:59 |
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_cmd_ | first of all, here's one of the two pages with xenserver instructions: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/config-reference/content/introduction-to-xen.html | 18:00 |
_cmd_ | this is the one that calls out the fact that it's outdated | 18:00 |
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_cmd_ | the bottom half of the page has the xapi / plugin install commands for xenserver post-install | 18:01 |
Yannovitch | yup | 18:01 |
_cmd_ | there's also this with the xenserver install / post-install: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/XenServer https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/XenServer/PostInstall | 18:02 |
_cmd_ | now.. both of these docs basically reference how to get xenserver itself ready to be integrated into openstack | 18:03 |
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_cmd_ | but my understanding is that the nova pieces need to run in a paravirtualized domU vm | 18:03 |
Yannovitch | yes. it's been a looong time since there hasn't been any update on the xen documentations, neither a sync between the docs | 18:03 |
_cmd_ | most of the docs i've found reference just installing devstack and have it build the vm so it can be transferred to the "production" hypervisor | 18:04 |
Yannovitch | well, about nova in domU, it all depends about what u wanna do | 18:04 |
Yannovitch | but it's more or less that, yes | 18:04 |
_cmd_ | hehe... ok | 18:05 |
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Yannovitch | ( not related at all, but is _cmd_ related to "command" in Scandal tv show ?) | 18:05 |
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_cmd_ | not really.. it's my initials, though i've always found the double-relation to the windows cmd.exe somewhat amusing given my profession | 18:06 |
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Yannovitch | actually, nova running on dom0 cause some problems with the Xen environment. they don't mix well together. | 18:06 |
_cmd_ | and i *do* reference it as "command" for that reason | 18:07 |
Yannovitch | ok ok | 18:07 |
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Yannovitch | i gave up on Xen about a year ago. i wanted to run OpenStack on some machines where KVM was causing problems but i ended just changing those machines. | 18:08 |
Yannovitch | it's too much of an hassle considering what you earn in advantages | 18:08 |
Yannovitch | (sorry for my english, but i'm a non native speaker, french here ;)) | 18:09 |
_cmd_ | i'm sorta having a cloudstack vs openstack dileimma at the moment.. | 18:09 |
_cmd_ | hey, your english is better than my french... | 18:09 |
Yannovitch | yeah, i had the same dilemna. | 18:09 |
Yannovitch | it all depends what is your goal here. | 18:10 |
_cmd_ | i used to work for a pretty sizeable cloudstack shop... obviously standardized on xenserver with a a lot of legacy vmware | 18:10 |
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Yannovitch | having "openstack" on my resume is important, and openstack is getting more and more support, as such, i keep working with openstack, but cloudstack have some big advantages too | 18:11 |
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_cmd_ | i'm really wanting to learn more openstack with an eye towards rolling it for some of my consulting clients | 18:11 |
_cmd_ | but that also includes the pros/cons of different hypervisors and what *their* goals are... | 18:11 |
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Yannovitch | yup | 18:11 |
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_cmd_ | some are eyeing moving away from aws without having to make a lot of architectual changes, etc | 18:11 |
Yannovitch | what ya mean ? | 18:12 |
Yannovitch | for me EC2 compatibility is important | 18:13 |
_cmd_ | just that there are obviously differnt features between the different hypervisor drivers and whatnot.. | 18:13 |
_cmd_ | correct... | 18:13 |
Yannovitch | and openstack looks like the best in the game (except maybe eucalyptus) | 18:13 |
_cmd_ | i have three difference virtualzation stacks in my lab... | 18:13 |
Yannovitch | for ec2 | 18:14 |
_cmd_ | all my "production" stuff is on vsphere, and that also runs my management vms for cloudstack and openstack | 18:14 |
Yannovitch | cloudstack is supported by citrix, as such, if you want xen compatibility, cloudstack is the way to go | 18:14 |
_cmd_ | then i have hardware kvm and cloudstack hypervisors | 18:14 |
_cmd_ | it's obviously very easy to use xenserver w/ cloudstack (just as it's easy to use kvm w/ openstack), i'm just surprised at how the poor documentation is for openstack+xenserver given it's a "supported" hypervisor | 18:15 |
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_cmd_ | i may just fire up devstack to grab the vm... and then dig through the devstack scripts to figure out what it's actually doing | 18:16 |
Yannovitch | yes | 18:17 |
Yannovitch | that's what i did ^^ | 18:17 |
_cmd_ | *grin* | 18:17 |
Yannovitch | yeaaaah i know | 18:17 |
Yannovitch | well kid, that's the difference between real world and marketing world | 18:17 |
_cmd_ | oh yeah... | 18:18 |
Yannovitch | (kiddin about the kid uh ;)) | 18:18 |
ekarlso- | yeah, xenserver SUCKS atm in terms of docs | 18:18 |
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Yannovitch | i mean, it's not like you were trying to use opennebula or openstack with lxc nested virtualization, should be easy normally, but guess nothin is really easy in this world ;) | 18:19 |
_cmd_ | you'd think somebody would have a good guide given there are some large openstack xcp/xen shops out there | 18:20 |
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Yannovitch | which one have you in mind ? | 18:20 |
_cmd_ | amzon, for one | 18:20 |
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Yannovitch | well, amazon have it so modified it's not really xen anymore. and they are not using openstack | 18:21 |
_cmd_ | rackspace, as well | 18:21 |
_cmd_ | ah, right about amazon | 18:22 |
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hay | on controller, auth.log is filled with entries neutron : TTY=unknown ; PWD=/ ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/neutron-rootwrap /etc/neutron/rootwrap.conf ovs-vsctl --timeout=2 list-ports br-int ... it happens every 2 seconds, is it neccessary to run so often? | 18:57 |
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MrCurious | step 3 done, taking a dd snapshot | 19:07 |
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MrCurious | this page is weak... http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/install-guide/install/apt/content/install_clients.html | 19:13 |
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MrCurious | could be more cut and paste friendly | 19:13 |
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MrCurious | http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/install-guide/install/apt/content/cli_openrc.html#override-variables i theink nova image-ist is premature as at this point in the setup, nova is not configured | 19:49 |
MrCurious | come to think of it its not installed | 19:49 |
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MrCurious | whoops missed that step in step 2 | 19:54 |
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MrCurious | nope was wrong. nova gets installed in step 7.2.1 but it is referenced in 4.3 | 19:59 |
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MrCurious | bug reported ;) | 20:22 |
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MrCurious | woo hoo, step 5 done | 21:07 |
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Yannovitch | MrCurious : You should create a blog article with all the steps summarized into it ! | 23:14 |
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orzel | hello. I'm dealing with openstack 2013.2.3. You agree that means "havana" version, right ? Is there an official place stating this ? It's not all clear. Not even on wp : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openstack | 23:17 |
Yannovitch | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Releases | 23:19 |
orzel | Yannovitch: ok, that was fast and very much what i'm looking for. Thanks a lot :-) | 23:19 |
Yannovitch | so yeah, 2013.2.3 is havana | 23:19 |
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orzel | yeps | 23:20 |
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MrCurious | Yannovitch: they are in the documentation | 23:39 |
MrCurious | i am putting bugs in when discovered. | 23:39 |
MrCurious | step 6 done! | 23:39 |
Yannovitch | :) | 23:39 |
MrCurious | and now i nit neutron networking... bane of my existence | 23:39 |
MrCurious | think i will skip that step | 23:39 |
Yannovitch | c'mon dude it's the most important step ^^ | 23:40 |
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MrCurious | for a single machine toy install? | 23:40 |
MrCurious | me thinks NOT | 23:40 |
MrCurious | nova networking will work enough | 23:40 |
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Yannovitch | i'm the kind of dude who likes to see the big solutions working even in little case | 23:41 |
Yannovitch | that's why i experiment with ceph on a single machine | 23:41 |
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Yannovitch | (yup ME suicidal) | 23:41 |
MrCurious | waiting on a DD backup of the install to my nas before going on | 23:42 |
MrCurious | so much less painful when you can roll back to the ppoint of messup and not have to redo the whole install | 23:42 |
_cmd_ | Yannovitch: agreed | 23:42 |
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Yannovitch | agreed with suicidal or with big solutions little case ^^? | 23:43 |
corntoegoblin | are u doing the dd live on the cli or do u boot a live cd? | 23:43 |
_cmd_ | the latter.. but the former is probably true, too | 23:43 |
_cmd_ | hahaha | 23:43 |
MrCurious | boot to a aux linux install, then do the dd of the non active install | 23:44 |
MrCurious | have 2 llinux installs on machine... | 23:44 |
corntoegoblin | wait nevermind i dont have access to storage from my dev network -_- damn net engys | 23:44 |
iggy | use ceph, then you don't need backups, just redeploy | 23:44 |
iggy | err chef | 23:44 |
_cmd_ | iggy: that was actually going to be my suggestion; chef, puppet, salt | 23:44 |
_cmd_ | i | 23:45 |
MrCurious | was wondering what ceph was | 23:45 |
_cmd_ | i'm about *this close* to just installing everything at home w/ a cm solution | 23:45 |
_cmd_ | (just for the practice) | 23:45 |
iggy | ceph (not chef) is a storage system commonly used to host files and disk images for VMs | 23:45 |
_cmd_ | MrCurious: ceph is block storage: https://ceph.com/docs/master/rbd/rbd-openstack/ | 23:46 |
MrCurious | i just found a page that said i can use NFS to host images for nova | 23:46 |
MrCurious | ceph looks good, but overkill for a laptop only install. no need to beat up my ssd with replication | 23:47 |
iggy | you can use a lot of different things actually | 23:47 |
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iggy | bog standard NFS is probably the easiest (but least reliable) | 23:48 |
iggy | definitely workable for a test deployment on a laptop ;) | 23:48 |
MrCurious | on a home network, inches from the NFS server? | 23:49 |
Yannovitch | well you can expose iscsi & nfs with zfs if you have a second machine, i used that before and it worked nice | 23:49 |
MrCurious | i have a pair of atom boxes single core that wont do kvm. wonder if they would work as compute hosts using qemu virtualization | 23:49 |
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corntoegoblin | software qemu is horribbleeeeeeee | 23:52 |
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Yannovitch | well you can use them with Xen for single system all in one install … with a lot of headaches, just like _cmd_ ahahah | 23:52 |
_cmd_ | :p | 23:52 |
donothingloop | what can i do when i get "ImportError: Class ml2 cannot be found" on the "openstack-db --update --sevice neutron" command? | 23:52 |
MrCurious | i had them provisioning with ubuntu MAAS using pxe boot | 23:52 |
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Yannovitch | By the way, MrCurious, I just went with a DevStack install that I modified afterwards, finally | 23:54 |
MrCurious | do vm's persist across host boot? | 23:54 |
Yannovitch | yup | 23:54 |
iggy | qemu by itself doesn't do virtualization, it does emulation (a distinction that means about a 100x slow down) | 23:54 |
MrCurious | way to invalidate my day | 23:54 |
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_cmd_ | d'oh | 23:56 |
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