Thursday, 2014-04-24

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neutron_problemloggiew: thanks. Which security policies did you have to look at ?00:02
loggiewI used nova instead so the command line was a little different00:02
loggiewit looks like in the control panel you can go to security policies00:03
loggiewi don't have the control panel up right now00:03
loggiewbut you can create groups00:03
loggiewit probably has a default group00:03
loggiewthen you can add something similar to a port forward there00:03
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neutron_problemThe security groups on the VMs allow ICMP traffic00:04
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neutron_problemthe ICMP traffic works on the floating IP for some time and then suddenly stops00:04
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neutron_problemrestarting neutron-server makes it work again, until it stops after some time00:04
loggiewah00:04
loggiewIm not sure, I keep chasing some odd problems with it myself.00:04
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loggiewI fixed some of them00:05
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loggiewbut I'm still figuring it out00:05
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loggiewthere is something that just seems to want to be blocked no matter what i do00:05
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loggiewon only one of my hosts00:06
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loggiewwith the same security policies00:06
neutron_problemok. I am currently trying to make sense of the OpenFlow rules on br-tun to see what exactly is happening.00:06
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loggiewah, i need to look at open flow soon. it looks awesome00:06
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neutron_problemIt is quite cool. Once you look at some basics of OpenFlow, this tutorial on Open vSwitch and how it uses flow tables is very good - http://git.openvswitch.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=openvswitch;a=blob_plain;f=tutorial/Tutorial;hb=HEAD00:08
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tavedroidhow do I store the running instances of my vm on another drive?00:08
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loggiewawesome, thanks00:09
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loggiewVERY cool.00:12
loggiewbookmarked.00:12
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loggiewdude, really? with the quits. now i need to look up ignores.00:17
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loggiewhmm00:19
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colinmacif you are using contrail then you end out with security/connectivty on 2 layers - network policies allow for traffic between 'virtual' networks, security groups allow (basically IP Tables) allow for flow traffic between virtual hosts00:39
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colinmacyou don't even need the whole neutron router thingy - simply (for example) allow ICMP traffic between network A and B and apply that policy to the networks and it just works - which is what we seem to be aiming for in this SDN thingy :)00:42
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KRS1I'm looking for a way to eliminate spof for neutron or look for neutron alternative.00:45
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Celmhi all, is there a difference between ec2 and openstack user-data ? I'm trying to use ec2 user-data for Openstack instance but I get the error : Unhandled non-multipart userdata ''01:05
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Ormanhey guys, it's been awhile since I've been in here.01:06
jrwrenCelm: openstack might require that you multipart mime encode, even if you only have 1 part.01:09
jrwrenCelm: but other than that, there is no difference.01:09
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Celmjrwren: I do a write_mime_multipart of my data. so it should be good01:10
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jrwrenCelm: 16kbyte limit?01:14
jrwrenCelm: are you using python-novaclient api or nova cmdline tool?01:15
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Celmjrwren: python-novaclient and the size of my data is around 4kb01:23
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Celmjrwren: should I be able to call data with a curl http://169.254.169.254/2009-04-04/user-data ?01:23
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Celmjrwren: is there a way to test my user-data before to call nova.servers.create ?01:27
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jrwrenno real test i know of because the data could be anything01:30
Celmjrwren: ok after re-read the documentation and change user_data to userdata (... yes ... I know :( ) I get : http://pastebin.com/zvyxdzEm01:31
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MTughanCelm: I can't necessarily help with that error, but if you want to see the supported types, just go to http://169.254.169.254/2009-04-04/01:33
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jrwrenhere is everything I know of it :)  http://pastebin.com/DUXnywNH01:34
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Celmjrwren: thanks01:37
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CelmMTughan: I can call "curl http://169.254.169.254/2009-04-04/user-data" and I got my encoded user data.01:38
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jrwrenalso: i highly recommend cloud-init :)01:40
CelmI use cloud-init and I think the issue come from that :D01:41
CelmI have the same error message in cloud-init.log01:41
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MTughanI've got an odd issue with my OpenStack installation I've been attempting to fix. I can't access 169.254.169.254 from a VM at all.01:42
CelmI use the same user data to boot EC2 instances. so maybe I do something wrong to create nova instances.01:42
MTughanI haven't figured it out yet.01:42
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jrwrenCelm: are you setting the mime type on the part correctly?01:47
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Guangjiannova boot fail in icehouse distribute deploy, exception api log as http://paste.openstack.org/show/76875/01:48
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Guangjiananybody can help me, very thx.01:48
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tavewhen an instance is ran on a allinone packstack install, do the running instances image get copied to the root filesystem logical disc?01:49
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CelmI found the problem ! for ec2, I gzip the user data. I just disable the gzip and it works  !01:50
Celmbut I want to compress my data :D01:51
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jrwreni had similar gzip issue01:55
jrwrenthat is why I don't anymore ;(01:55
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tavecan I have an esxi(no vcenter) and kvm configured together as compute nodes in openstack?02:09
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tavecan I have an esxi(no vcenter) and kvm configured together as compute nodes in openstack?02:25
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comartinhey guys, im wondering if the features of openstack are worth moving away from proxmox for?02:28
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lifelesscomartin: whats proxmox?02:35
comartinit is a KVM virtual machine manager02:35
comartinalso supports openVZ02:35
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comartinbased on debian02:37
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lifelesscomartin: ok; and what things are important to you in a cloud substrate ?02:40
comartinall i use it for is spinning up development servers and i host a proxy pass server to forward my subdomains02:40
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sparky43786hey everybody,  I've just got my 5.5Tb iscsi server online!  Creating volumes like a fool03:32
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basic`what would cause dhcp to stop working on the openstack server?06:03
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iscsidnsmasq status/iptables rules/ovs bridge configuration06:19
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basic`service neutron-plugin-openvswitch-agent restart after a reboot06:24
basic`that fixed it06:24
basic`also neutron-dhcp-agent restart06:25
basic`seems like something is off on the boot order06:25
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ToTsirollHi guys, this is a beginner's question. Given 2 compute nodes with 8 core and 16gb ram..can i run one instance with more than 8 core or more than 16gb ram flavor?06:40
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cephi tried to install ceph in single node but ssh create node brings error can anybody help06:47
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realhi all06:50
rm_workToTsiroll: no, you're limited to what you can fit on a single node :(06:50
realanyone know why my instance cannot connect to internet06:50
real?06:50
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rm_workreal: routing? probably06:50
rm_workwe'd have to know a lot more about your instance06:51
Guest85855on my machine i just installe nova,glance,keystone06:51
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Guest85855how i can check it ?06:51
rm_workprobably there is no route set up on your host OS to NAT between your internet connected interface and the openstack bridge interface06:52
rm_workroute / iptables06:52
rm_workI believe by default I've run into that problem before06:52
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Guest85855how do you solve that problem before ?06:52
rm_workit depends on your setup06:53
rm_workI usually do something like...06:53
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rm_workhttp://www.karlrupp.net/en/computer/nat_tutorial06:53
rm_workmost importantly:06:54
rm_workecho "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward06:54
rm_workand06:54
rm_workiptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE06:54
rm_work(replacing eth1 with whatever your interface is)06:54
rm_workthere might be a more "openstack-ey way" to do it but that's what i've always done06:55
Guest85855you execute iptable on your machine or your instance ?06:55
rm_workon the host machine06:55
rm_workand possibly you might need to add a route06:56
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rm_workbut, maybe not06:56
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rm_workunfortunately it is late here, but hopefully that points you in the right direction?06:56
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Guest85855i use my eth0 as br0, but my machine still can access internet.06:58
Guest85855my network config like this > http://pastebin.com/J82J72ar06:58
rm_workyeah, I'm not actually a networking guru, I just know enough to get by :(06:58
rm_worksorry06:58
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Guest85855oke, no problem :)06:59
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Guest85855oh07:25
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Guest85855my host machine have network 10.163.209.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 10.163.209.107:26
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Guest85855my instance now have public network 10.163.209.0 too, because previously i think i want to instance can accessed by another machine from the ntwork07:27
Guest85855and it's right my instance can access by another machine on the network, but instance cannot access the internet07:27
Guest85855also on host openstack machine also cannot access internet07:27
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Guest85855what should float ip / private ip be ?07:28
Guest85855i;m sorry, now my instance and host can access internet07:29
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Guest85855thanks rm_work for your ide to config iptables07:30
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sparky43786just about ready to fire up the first windows image07:58
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benwhahello everybody08:47
Guest85855anyone know how to create image from instance ?08:47
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Guest85855i mean image which i can copy to another openstack machine08:48
benwhaGuest85855: not yet for me08:48
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benwhaGuest85855: is there nothing on the Openstack Virtual Machine Image Guide ?08:53
Guest85855still searching08:53
Guest85855:D08:53
benwhaI have a question did someone have succefully lanch an instance on a vmware cluster from openstack ?08:54
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benwhaGuest85855: I think you need to check the qemu-img tools08:55
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benwhaGuest85855: Page 69-70 of the training guide ... is that what you are lokking for ?08:58
hayhi, I am getting ERROR neutron.agent.linux.ovsdb_monitor [-] Error received from ovsdb monitor: 2014-04-24T08:55:22Z|00001|fatal_signal|WARN|terminating with signal 15 (Terminated) on all nodes immediately after restarting neutron-plugin-openvswitch-agent and instances don't get assigned any IPs via DHCP... how I can I debug the issue further? thanks08:59
Guest85855benwha: is different with http://docs.openstack.org/image-guide/content/ ?09:00
benwhayes a little09:01
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benwhabut why would you create an image from your instance, can't you boot over the block storage of that instance instead ?09:01
benwhahay: check the db for ovs you create09:02
Guest85855actually i have try to setup openstack ha somedays ago09:03
Guest85855but i need more time for research it09:03
benwhaI have a question did someone have succefully lanch an instance on a vmware cluster from openstack ? mine is still running on the kvm compute node09:03
Guest85855for temporary i will backup and copy using hard image09:03
Guest85855image which i get from first instance, then copy to second instance using scheduler09:04
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benwhaGuest85855: but when you want to launch a new instance you can choose the option "boot from snapshot"09:06
Guest85855yah, but i copy image to another machine09:06
Guest85855if i create snapshot from first machine, i cannot running that snapshot from second machine09:07
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Guest85855if i create snapshot from first machine, i cannot running that snapshot on second machine, right ?09:08
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benwhano but you still can migrate the machine on an other compute node09:13
Guest85855how i can do that ?09:14
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benwhahow many compute node do you have ,09:15
benwha?09:15
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Guest85855just one09:16
Guest85855i installed for poc, all in one installation09:16
Guest85855i have 2 machine for this09:17
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benwhaok so it could work if you try to boot from snapshot assuming you have enough ressources to boot 2 instance09:18
benwhadid someone have succefully lanch an instance on a vmware cluster from openstack ? mine is still running on the kvm compute node09:18
Guest85855so you have setup opentack ha?09:19
benwhano just a controller node, a compute node, a network node and a vcenter proxy node09:20
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Guest85855benwha, wait. you said that i can run instance from snapshot ? how it work if i snapshot on machine1 then i want to run on machine209:22
benwhaGuest85855: you run your machine1 then you snapshot that instance and you boot another instance from that snapshot09:25
Guest85855but i want to run instance from machine209:26
Guest85855is possible to copy snapshot from machine1 to machine2 ?09:26
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benwhaGuest85855: I lost you09:28
benwhaGuest85855: you want to snapshot your machine1 and use that snapshot to boot another machine in your case machine2 ?09:29
Guest85855yes,09:29
Guest85855ii want like that09:29
Guest85855is it possible ?09:31
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benwhayes if your poc does snapshot09:38
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Guest85855i have create snapshot09:41
Guest85855so how i can copy to machine2 ?09:41
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benwhaGuest85855: now you launch a new instance and in the dashboard you choose boot from snapshot09:46
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sorenWeirdness. Using up-to-date python-novaclient fails with HP cloud. Turns out it includes this little gem in its POST request: "networks": [{"uuid": "00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000"}, {"uuid": "11111111-1111-1111-1111-111111111111"}]10:18
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sldDoes anyone know if it possible to 'unshare' a network?10:55
slder if it is possible10:55
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AGPXhi all11:22
AGPXa question: I need to have the hypervisor installed on the same machine that run the nova compute service11:22
AGPXo can I have the hypervisor in another machine? (like xen or oracle vm)?11:23
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ShellShockWhen I try logging into Horizon I keep getting 'Unauthorized'. I'm positive I'm using the correct credentials. Anyone know what is worth checking out?11:55
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ShellShockThey just give me a python traceback that's not super informative as to why it fails. Keystone does say something about 'Auth token not in the request header'.11:59
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Infitialishello, I had a working grizzly setup and used http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-ops/content/ops_upgrades_grizzly_havana-rhel.html to upgrade it to havana12:01
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AGPXI have tried to update the nova.conf to change the hypervisor, but I cannot see that change in the dashboard. I have restarted the nova services, but still no difference. Any hints?12:02
Infitialisonly after doing that my horizon doesn't work anymore "something went wrong" and apparently I've got both neutron and quantum12:02
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ShellShock'Auth token not in the request header'-error solved by adding keystone / auth credentials to nova-api.conf. Icehouse documentation do not mention this12:06
benwhaInfitialis: check the endpoint for neutron12:07
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Infitialisbenwha: endpoint? and I got this during boot  you must upgrade the neutron database before starting neutron services.12:09
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benwhayes I have had the same issue and it was my endpoint in keystone for neutron which wasn't good12:10
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JensOfSwedenls12:17
jpichShellShock: Thakns for the update. If you found an issue / missing bit in the documentation, would you mind filing a bug about it at https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals so it can get fixed?12:18
Infitialisbenwha: apparently neutron has been installed on my compute node but not on the network node as you would expect. Isn't this something that is required?12:18
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Infitialisas the upgrade guide doesnt really say anything about upgrading the network node12:19
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ShellShockjpich: I will do so. Any special information I need to supply in such a bug report? Or a simple statement of the problem and how it was fixed, is fine?12:22
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jpichShellShock: That sounds good, explaining the problem you saw and what it was due to. If you also have suggestions for where you would have expected to see this in the docs, that would be helpful as well I think12:23
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ShellShockjpich: Ok great, I will post it up before I leave work today :312:24
jpichShellShock: Thank you!12:25
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sojoknucklestruggling with the metadata service in a multi-node setup (ubuntu 14.04 using icehouse) , where should this be running ?  controller, network nodes ?12:57
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jkary1Good Day.  I had a question about on networking node setups.  Following the deployment guide for 3 node setup the first i/f is mgmt, the second i/f is the tunnel i/f and the 3rd i/f is your external i/f.  The external i/f should run in promiscuous mode and the network switch should be configured as a trunk?  Is this correct?  Assuming this is correct then should the external network in neutron be tagged?13:00
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phschwartzjkary1: are you trying to set it up neutron in vlan mode or tagged mode?13:03
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jkary1phschwartz: Good question.  I am using the ML2 plugin and I thought tags on a subnet equated to VLANS.13:20
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AGPXany reason why horizon doesn't update? If I change, for e.g., the hypervisor from qemu to kvm, I cannot see that change.13:21
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phschwartzjkary1: It is my understanding that tags are not on the switch directly, but routed using the switch13:21
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jkary1phschwartz: So if I have an external network with a tag of 100 then packets sent out of the external i/f will have a dot1q header of vlan 100.  Correct?13:24
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phschwartzjkary1: no, it will have a tag header of 100 not a dot1q. If you do tagged networking it will have a dot1q header.13:25
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jkary1phschwartz: Ok.  So what is the magic to do tagged networking?  Since ultimately I want multiple external networks each living in it's own VLAN?13:27
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ShellShockAttempting to allocate an IP / or restarting openvswitch results in "unexpected vif_type: 'binding failed'"-errors. I am to believe this is because I'm missing BRIDGE_MAPPINGS. Does anyone have a proper ml2_conf.ini file I could have a look at?13:29
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phschwartzjkary1: been a while since I have done it with vlans. I have been doing ovs+tagging for a while.13:30
phschwartzjkary1: you have to look over this section http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/config-reference/content/ch_configuring-openstack-networking.html13:30
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phschwartzThere should be a part on vlan networking13:30
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jkary1phschwartz: Thanks for the link I'll read it in detail.13:33
phschwartzjkary1: sorry I could not be more direct help13:33
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ShellShockThanks schwartz, even if not meant for me. That kinda pushes me in the right direction.13:33
kbringardphschwartz is the man13:34
phschwartzShellShock: not a problem13:34
phschwartzkbringard: hey, long time.13:34
ShellShockDoes anyone know if "bridge_mappings = physnet2:br-eth1" is outdated for Icehouse? I can see it in the Grizzly-config file but no reference of it exists for Icehouse13:34
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ShellShockI thought my problem was the lack thereof, but it seems to be deprecated?13:35
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phschwartzShellShock: I would think it is still there. Let me look at the code really quick13:36
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ShellShockphschwartz: It is referenced in "ovs_quantum_plugin.ini" for Grizzly, in corelation with VLANs. I am however now using Icehouse, the ml2_plugin and gre-tunneling. So I'm not sure if I need the mappings in the first place13:38
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phschwartzShellShock: yes, it is still there (remember quantum is now neutron)13:39
phschwartzAs to if you need the mapping, I am not sure of that.13:39
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ShellShockphschwartz: Thing is, everytime I try to allocate an IP / restart OVS; it gives me "Unexpected vif_type: binding_failed." And logs show that the ports are not getting bound to the bridged interfaces. I think.13:42
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ShellShockphschwartz: So somehow my search led me to bridge_mappings, thinking they are responsible for it.13:43
phschwartzHave you tried setting it in the config for neutron to see if it fixes it13:44
phschwartzThe config option is still there13:44
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ShellShockI am trying to figure out what mappings I should define tbh.13:47
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kbringardaren't we all13:49
kbringard:-D13:49
ShellShockMy external bridge being 'br-ex', so I assume physnet1:br-ex?13:49
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phschwartzShellShock: I think that would be correct.13:58
jkary1phschwartz:Ok.  So I think I might have asked my question wrong.  I'm trying to discover how an internal packet (say 192.168.1.10/vlan1) is transformed into an external packet (say 10.10.10.10/vlan100).  It appears the L3-agent is responsible for the NAT mapping, and I understand that I have to bind an external address but my confusion is how does the L3-agent know it's VLAN 100?13:59
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kbringardjkary1: I believe you need to set that when you create the provider network14:00
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kbringardit's like, neutron net-create —provider:network_type vlan —provider:physical_network blah --provider:segmentation_id <VLAN ID> --router:external=True14:01
kbringardor something14:01
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jkary1kbringard: ok.  that makes sense now.14:02
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gmijkary1:I don't think the L3 agent does VLAN tagging; the VLAN tagging is only used to separate traffic between different project networks passing across the same Layer2 network14:03
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phschwartzjkary1: ah, yes, asked it a little backwards. kbringard's answer would be what you want.14:03
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jkary1Perfect.  Makes sense to me now… Thanks for the help14:04
ShellShockphschwartz: That didn't resolve it though. I notice now aswell that ovs is reporting: Device <port-id> not defined on plugin, and that the VM does not have any ports to which I can map the IPs too.14:05
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ShellShockAll my ports are in down-state too, yet pingable from within the namespace14:05
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phschwartzShellShock: hmm. did you setup up the ovs config to know what device it is suppose to work with?14:06
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ShellShockphschwartz: What exactly do you mean. So far I've followed the Icehouse installation guide to the letter.14:07
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phschwartzThere should be an ovs related ini file that you have to setup to configure ovs to understand what networks to work with14:08
phschwartzlet me find the name of the file.14:08
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ShellShockphschwartz: I have a little stanza in ml2_conf.ini (local_ip, tunnel_type.. and now bridge_mappings). And I created the bridges using ovs-vsctl and added my external interface to br-ex.14:09
ShellShockI don't recall any other ovs-related configuration14:09
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MTughanI'm setting up nova.conf from a template I just generated from Ubuntu's source package, and I'm having an issue with keystone. If I set auth_host, auth_port and auth_protocol separately, it works. If I set identity_uri instead (as the deprecated notice on the separate options say to), I get an SSL error from nova-api.14:11
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mtrisolineMTughan: try setting auth_uri14:12
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MTughanI have auth_uri set separately, as the install guide for Ubuntu says to.14:13
mtrisolineMTughan: I just set everything up w/ 14.04 & icehouse release14:13
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mtrisolineMTughan: you on 14.04 /w incehouse as well?14:13
MTughanThe description for auth_host, auth_port and auth_protocol say they're for the admin identity API endpoint, while auth_uri says it's for the public endpoint. Is there a difference?14:13
MTughanmtrisoline: Yes, although I started with the prerelease versions of each probably about two weeks ago.14:14
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mtrisolineMTughan: Can you post a pastebin or something of the error?14:14
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mtrisolineI am not 100% sure of the difference, but I believe the public portion is for users to interact with as if you were using it as PaaS / IaaS.14:15
ShellShockMTughan: I have no identity_uri in my nova.conf (Icehouse, UBuntu 14.04) I have an auth_uri though14:16
mtrisolineI am using everything as an internal platform for our organziaton so I can't really comment on that too much. Everything we do uses basically admin users for everything as no one else has access to the system outside of our Systems Engineering Team.14:16
MTughanYeah, it's weird because the install guide says to use the deprecated options. I tried using identity_uri instead and I got this. http://pastebin.com/hPqAvWvV14:16
ShellShockMTughan: And it is not an end-point14:16
MTughanIt's weird that I'm getting an SSL error though, as it should all be HTTP, not HTTPS.14:17
MTughans/though/too/14:17
mtrisolineMTughan: Ya as @ShellShock said I don't have an idenity_uri defined anywhere in my configs anywhere. When you did your auth uri did you define it as http://controller:5000/v2.0 or as controller:5000/v2.014:18
mtrisolineIf you didn't define the http:// i think it falls back to https by default14:18
MTughanAnd looking at the INFO lines above, it looks like it's ignoring identity_uri. I think I'll just use the "deprecated" options.14:18
mtrisolineI know it does that with glance atleast.14:18
MTughanmtrisoline: No, I've got the http:// in auth_uri.14:18
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MTughanThe main indication is "Starting new HTTPS connection (1): 127.0.0.1". The host should be "blade2", not localhost.14:19
phschwartzShellShock: take a look at this. http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt-debian/content/install-neutron.install-plug-in.ovs.vlan.html14:19
ShellShockMTughan: Here is my the keystone-stanza from nova.conf if it helps you out (http://pastebin.com/s89nBr7H)14:20
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phschwartzShellShock: shit grabed the wrong link. sec14:20
MTughanShellShock: Yeah, that's what I've got now.14:20
mtrisolineMTughan: this is your nova compute node right? Can you throw up a copy of your entire config as well as a `keystone endpoint-list`14:20
MTughanmtrisoline: It's working now, so I'm not worried about it. I'm having metadata issues, but I'm still looking into it.14:20
mtrisolineO Ok14:21
MTughanI just have to use "deprecated" options to do it, but it looks like the replacement's not being used.14:21
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MTughanActually, maybe you can help me. Connections from VMs to 169.254.169.254:80 don't work (connection never completes and times out), but connections to 10.7.10.1:9697 (the virtual router) do work and return useful data.14:22
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MTughanSo VMs can never get any metadata, such as IP, user-data or SSH keys.14:23
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mtrisolineMTughan: Do you have the nova-metadata-api running on the nova node?14:23
ShellShockphschwartz: The article right before what you linked shows tons of options I have not yet defined in my Icehouse stack. "integration_bridge = br-int tunnel_bridge = br-tun".14:23
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MTughanmtrisoline: No, using neutron and nova-api.14:23
mtrisolineOpenvswitch?14:23
MTughanAnd ML2, yes.14:24
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mtrisolineGRE Tunnels?14:24
MTughanYes.14:24
mtrisolineIs the neutron-plugin-openvswitch-agent running?14:24
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MTughanI have neutron-openvswitch-agent. Is that what you meant?14:25
mtrisolineYa14:25
phschwartzShellShock: do you have netowrk_vlan_ranges and integration_bridge set?14:25
mtrisolineI have havana running on centos and icehouse running on 14.04 so I get the service names confused still.14:25
phschwartzShellShock: If I remember correctly, they are needed for vlans with ovs+neutron14:25
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ShellShockBut I'm using gre, not vlans.14:26
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phschwartzShellShock: ah, I thought you were using vlans14:26
ShellShockI have everything set besides the integration / tunnel bridge key14:26
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ShellShockI will try14:26
mtrisolineMTughan: I know this one bit me. Did you open up the ports in neutron / nova security groups etc.14:26
mtrisolineI know even though I opened them in neutron I still had to allow them in nova14:27
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MTughanmtrisoline: Looking at iptables in the router, the port's opened already. I haven't done anything with security groups there.14:27
mtrisolineI would say the best way to debug is to tcpdump interfaces on the physical hosts and see how the traffic is being passed around. `tcpdump -i $IFACE -n`14:27
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MTughanmtrisoline: Now right now, this all on one machine. Should I run tcpdump in the router's namespace or the host's?14:30
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ShellShockphschwartz: Still no luck. " Device <port-id> requested by agent ... on network <net-id> not bound, vif_type: binding_failed" and  Failed to bind port<port-id> on host dell114:32
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phschwartzShellShock: hmm14:32
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MTughanmtrisoline: Running tcpdump in the router's namespace appears to show that the request to 169.254.169.254 is being passed to the default gateway. Isn't it supposed to be handled in the router?14:33
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MTughanHmm, it also looks like the connection's still going out to port 80 too, when it should be redirected to 9697. Weird.14:35
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gmiMTughan:are you running Icehouse or Havana?14:38
MTughangmi: Icehouse.14:38
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gmiMTughan:ok, I have the user data working in Havana with ovs+gre and it shouldn't be too different in Icehouse14:39
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gmiMTughan: do you have the neutron-metadata-agent  running on your Neutron network node?14:40
MTughangmi: Yes.14:40
gmiMTughan: do you have the IP of the Nova metadata service defined in "/etc/neutron/metadata_agent.ini" on the Neutron node?14:41
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MTughanYes.14:41
MTughangmi: If I try to get metadata at 10.7.10.1:9697, which is the virtual router's internal IP, it works.14:41
MTughanIt's just 169.254.169.254:80 that doesn't work.14:42
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gmiMTughan:together with the proxy_shared_secret?14:42
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MTughanYes, and I've confirmed that the secrets match.14:42
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gmiMTughan: and if you try to pull the metadata from inside your instance while tailing the log in neutron, /var/log/neutron/neutron-ns-metadata-proxy-XXX_namespace, do you see anything useful?14:43
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MTughanNothing comes up in the log. I have debug on too.14:44
MTughanAnd I mean nothing new in the log at all.14:45
gmiMTughan: you should see a NAT in the name space of the qrouter looking like this: REDIRECT   tcp  --  anywhere             169.254.169.254      tcp dpt:http redir ports 969714:45
MTughanI do get log output with 10.7.10.1:9697.14:45
MTughanREDIRECT   tcp  --  anywhere             169.254.169.254      tcp dpt:http redir ports 969714:45
MTughanIt's there.14:45
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gmiMTughan:and there is a process listening on 9697 in that namespace?14:46
MTughantcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:9697            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      17689/python14:46
MTughanThat process is the neutron-ns-metadata-proxy. It's a long command.14:47
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gmiMTughan:and you can telnet from that namespace to port 8775 on your nova-api running node?14:47
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MTughanYes, and HTTP works in it.14:48
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ShellShockphschwartz: Still " Device <port-id> not defined on plugin". Any clue what they mean by defined? I know they exist and work. (I can ping everything from within namespace)14:49
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phschwartzShellShock: I am looking at some of the docs. It sounds like it doesn't have the tagged interface defined correctly for some reason14:50
MTughangmi: The only thing I can think of is there's something missing telling the router to respond to requests to 169.254.169.254, as the REDIRECT doesn't change the destination IP.14:50
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phschwartzMTughan: There is an easy fix, config-drive14:51
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MTughanphschwartz: Is that a command? I don't have that right now.14:51
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gmiMTughan:the redirect is only supposed to send the request to the neutron-metadata who;s going to use the shared secret to sign it and then send it to nova-api14:52
phschwartzMTughan: It is the next evolution of the metadata passing to an instance. Instead of connecting to 169.254.169.254 so cloud-init can pull in info, it is mounted at a drive on the instance and cloud-init reads the metadata from static files in that drive.14:52
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MTughanphschwartz: I had seen some people discussing that yesterday.14:53
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gmiMTughan:I'm afraid I cannot be of more help right now, but I'm building my env on Icehouse now so I'll get to have fun with the metadata service soon enough14:54
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phschwartzMTughan: http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/content/config-drive.html14:54
MTughangmi: I may give the config-drive a try too, although I'm still curious why 169.254.169.254 doesn't work.14:54
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phschwartzMTughan: I have seen funky issues with the metadata api over the years and they are 100% networking related. One minor mess up in a network config can throw it all off.14:55
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phschwartzMTughan: smoser turned me on to config drive back in grizzly and I have used it a lot since. Much better system as it doesn't rely on NAT translations to get connectivity to the metadata14:56
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ShellShockphschwartz: Tagged interface, is that br-int?14:57
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phschwartzShellShock: I would think it would be14:57
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MTughanphschwartz: Unless I'm mistaken, that worked like a charm. Thanks.15:02
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phschwartzMTughan: :) I prefer config-drive over metadata api for this exact reason. looking at scroll back it defn was a networking issue where traffic from your instances were not transversing the the tagged namespace from the looks of it to get metadata from the api node. That is not an easy issue to fix.15:04
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ShellShockphschwartz: I think I did some misconfiguring at the ml2 / ovs part. Is it OK if I PM you and go over these steps?15:04
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phschwartzsure15:04
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MTughanphschwartz: Yep, SSH keys worked, although I realize now it's using an old key that I replaced after Heartbleed.15:07
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MTughanphschwartz: Yeah, that's definitely much easier. Also fixes the issue I was having with Ubuntu 14.04 as an instance, where it wouldn't go beyond cloud-config. I presumed it was because it couldn't contact the metadata server, and that seems to have been the issue.15:21
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phschwartzMTughan: yup, when it can't connect to the metadata service it sits for 300 sec till it times out and then continues with no network/ssh configs15:22
orzelhello. there's something i dont understand with flatmanager/flatdhcpmanager. I'm kinda afraid it has changed with time/version. I'm using havana.15:22
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MTughanphschwartz: It wasn't even doing that for me, as I'd leave it like 15 minutes and nothing would happen. 12.04 was doing what you described.15:22
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orzeli'm mostly interested in nondhcp "flatmanager". I read that in this case, openstack does nothing and i have to handle dhcp stuff. That's what i do, and my vm got ip/gateway. But nova "thinks" its ip is different, and put stuff in iptables with this ip. As a result, my vm has no network connectivity15:23
orzelthat's in the case i have a network configured in nova. If i dont, my vm just dont have any NIC :/15:23
orzelcan someone enlighten me... ?15:23
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gmiorzel: Nova likes to be in control of the private IPs, so if you don't want to let it run the dhcp server at least manually IP the instance with the IP that Nova assigned to that instance in the database15:25
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orzelgmi: ok, so basically flatmanager is obsolate/unmaintained or not use.. ? I kinda have to use at least flatdhcpmanager ?15:27
orzelgmi: this one keeps on failing with weird errors about iptables-restore failing at line XX (which i can't find)15:28
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MTughanWas installing Ceilometer, and came across an issue. I'll paste this link because this guy has the exact same problem I just ran into. https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/27951/pecan-version-for-ceilometer-in-icehouse-swift-proxy/16:02
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MTughanUnfortunately, I'm not quite skilled enough in Python to know what the next course of action should be.16:03
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mtrisolineMTughan: I believe that is a packaging issue.16:05
mtrisolineI ran into the same thing this morning.,16:05
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MTughanNothing to do but wait for the Ubuntu maintainers then? Should I raise the issue with them?16:06
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jkary1I'm having issues launching an instance.  I'm getting a timeout error but can't seem to find out what component is timing out.  If I can show a trace can someone help me identify where to look for the issue?16:19
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MTughanjkary1: Timeout error trying to do what?16:19
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MTughanmtrisoline: #ubuntu-server did say it was a packaging issue and so I've opened a Launchpad bug for it, but now I'm hitting the same second error in the link on ask.openstack.org, where happybase isn't accepted. Any insight on that?16:50
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mtrisolineMTughan: TY, I started to file one and got side tracked.16:54
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MTughanAnyway, I'm going to disable ceilometer on swift-proxy for now and continue.16:54
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qhartmanI've used MAAs and JuJu to deploy an Openstack test environment, and gotten to the point that I can run images16:58
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qhartmanHowever, they don't seem to be getting any networking config. I should be using old nova networking (not neutron) with flatdhcp bridged on my eth1.16:58
qhartmanwhere's the best place to look to troubleshoot this?16:59
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rzsdIm facing a problem with using ActiveRecord::Base.Transaction. I have created a transaction where i create a record in two tables TableA and TableB. Insertion into TableA works, but TableB.create! throws an exception. Now because i have wrapped the create! statements in a trnsaction i expect the record in TableA to get deleted automatically, but the record remains in TableA.17:07
rzsdMy code is as follows : https://gist.github.com/anonymous/1126193317:07
ehaselwanterhi. I have a weird problem17:07
ehaselwanterneutron with linuxbridge17:08
sojoknucklefor using config-drive i see force_config_drive parameters is that in all the nova.conf’s or just on the compute nodes ?17:08
ehaselwanterget ip from dhcp in vm17:08
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rzsdIm connecting to an external database so have defined a common abstract base class so that only one connection is created for both the models. What could be the problem here ?17:08
ehaselwantercan ping dhcp from router17:08
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ehaselwanterbut can not ping/ssh to/from vm17:08
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rzsdsorry , posted in wrong channel..apologies17:09
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phschwartzsojoknuckle: I think you want that on all the computes and the nova-api node17:18
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sojoknuckleok cool i will play with it , because it does sound soooooo much cleaner than the current model and the metadata service seem to be the largest challenge , one you get all the set correct it works great but such a pain to get there17:20
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phschwartzsojoknuckle: agreed.17:22
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jkary1MTughan: I am getting a request timeout… but I am having a hard time figuring out what the system was trying to communicate with...17:27
MTughanjkary1: Maybe the better question is, "What were you trying to do when you got a connection timeout?"17:28
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jkary1MTughan:I was trying to launch a new VM17:39
MTughanjkary1: And how were you trying to do that? Through Horizon? "nova boot"?17:40
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reazemIs there an equivalent to Rackspace Cloud Monitoring? They let you set checks (like pings) to your instances.17:40
Evidenzi don't  necessarily need swift to start a vm do I?17:40
jkary1MTughan: Through Horizon.  I am seeing this: http://nmtg-ctrl001:8774/v2/79cce0f544444f24bbb0ca1b7444b0a7/servers returned with HTTP 50017:41
jkary1I know it's a configuration somehow but I can't see it.  This is a new install17:41
MTughanjkary1: Probably something in nova crashing then. Take a look at the logs in /var/log/nova and see if there's anything there.17:42
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jkary1MTughan: I see a TRACE ending with: MessagingTimeout: Timed out waiting for a reply to message ID 4cbfa13333e64b63a38d35a36919c15b17:42
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MTughanAnd what component is that in?17:43
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jkary1MTughan:  I think this line in the trace is illuminating… just not to me…17:44
jkary1nova.api.openstack   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/nova/network/rpcapi.py", line 225, in validate_networks17:44
jkary12014-04-24 13:22:47.714 2645 TRACE nova.api.openstack     return self.client.call(ctxt, 'validate_networks', networks=networks)17:44
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MTughanjkary1: If you have a Python traceback, that would definitely be helpful. Use a pastebin (such as http://pastebin.com) to paste it instead of directly in this channel though.17:45
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jkary1MTughan: http://pastebin.com/r0jHbT6F17:48
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MTughanjkary1: Looks like it may be an issue with your messaging service. Are you setting this up with rabbit, 0MQ, QPID or something else?17:50
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MTughanjkary1: Maybe check that your message host and password are correct.17:53
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jkary1MTughan: I'm running QPID17:55
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sojoknucklephschwartz for the config-drive do i have to configure the drive itself (eg /mnt/config ) for each OS ?18:09
phschwartzsojoknuckle: yes18:10
phschwartzsojoknuckle: there are a lot of images out there that have it configured already18:10
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MTughanCirrOS 0.3.2 and Ubuntu 14.04 picked up on the config-drive right away for me, no modification required.18:11
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sojoknucklehmmm using cirros 0.3.2 i see this in the log and it seems like it is not choosing the configdrive18:20
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sojoknucklecirros-ds 'local' up at 2.1118:20
sojoknucklefound datasource (configdrive, local)18:20
kbringardit may not have a new enough version of cloud-init to support using it18:20
kbringardalthough, that would imply it does18:20
sojoknuckleonce the os boots I can mount the drive , in my case it becomes the device /dev/sr018:21
sojoknuckleand the config data is there18:21
fleishhi, my essex nova-network/dnsmasq controller has started doing something odd and I'm not sure what change caused it. I have hosts named somehost.realdomain.com ... but in my nova.conf I have dhcp_domain set to internaldomain.com. this always worked fine and I could lookup internaldomain.com in the nova-controller's dnsmasq. but now, I'm getting an error that says dnsmasq-dhcp[3847]: Ignoring domain realdomain.com.internaldomain.com fo18:22
fleishhost name somehost. any ideas what would be causing that?18:22
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MTughansojoknuckle: config-drive worked right away in CirrOS 0.3.2 for me. The docs say that 0.3.1 and later are required for config-drive.18:22
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sojoknuckleMTughan, did you do anything in the  nova.conf other than force_config_drive=true (on the controller and compute nodes)18:23
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MTughansojoknuckle: I did "force_config_drive" to be always, not true. The documentation in nova.conf said it could only be "always".18:27
MTughan# Set to force injection to take place on a config drive (if set, valid options are: always) (string value)18:28
MTughanBut after that, no, I modified nothing else. I did make sure genisoimage was installed, but it was so I didn't need to change that.18:28
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sojoknuckleok let me try , easy enough18:29
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The-kid89Hello everyone18:38
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orzelHello. I keep on having this kind of problem : http://pastebin.com/X3wXrQcm18:54
orzeli'm using flatdhcpmanager, and i dont know how to fix this issue. I don't even understand what the problem is. I kinda guess the input of iptables-restore is provided by nova-network, but where can i know the content ?18:54
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kbringardorzel: it's getting the list of iptables rules either from the DB or from what is currently in memory and trying to apply them on the system19:05
kbringardit appears as though something it's trying to apply isn't valid19:05
kbringardI'd probably check the DB to see if you can find an invalid rule19:05
kbringardthe API tries to do validation to keep that from happening, but sometimes...19:06
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badamshey y'all, has anyone come across the libvirt error, CPU affinity of process ###?19:20
badamscannot get CPU*19:20
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sojoknuckleeven after force_config_drive=always the cirros image version 0.3.2 still seems to pick local for the ds , does it matter how its started ? horizon vs nova boot ?19:22
sojoknucklecirros-ds 'local' up at 2.1419:22
sojoknucklefound datasource (configdrive, local)19:22
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ctooleyThis neutron+openvswitch things is giving me fits. I can't make the simple case work, let alone attempt a complicated one.20:22
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ctooleyI have a VM launched. It has been assigned an IP. I'm unsure how that is supposed to be translate in me reaching that IP from the host server.20:23
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larsksctooley: You would need to assign a floating ip to access the instance from the host.21:28
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orzelThe documentation is great, though of course quite 'behind' seing the speed of development. So far my biggest 'miss' is information about kernel configuration. It's hard to find out (mainly test/fix loops) which kernel CONFIG_* are required for each node.21:51
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qhartmanI'm working on setting up a new deployment with Icehouse. My networking requirements are very simple, and my switches do not support management via Neutron for vlan configs and whatnot. Is there any reason I would use neutron instead of the legacy networking?22:42
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sputnik13qhartman: other than that nova-networking is being deprecated?22:57
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qhartmansputnik13, that's an excellent reason, and something I did not know22:57
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sputnik13http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-ops/content/nova-network-deprecation.html22:58
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qhartmancool, thanks22:58
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sputnik13not deprecated yet, but you're setting up a time bomb22:59
sputnik13potentailly22:59
qhartmanright22:59
sputnik13potentially even...  can't spell or type today22:59
sputnik13:)22:59
qhartmanyeah, unless I missed it, it would be good to have a note to that effect in the install guides22:59
sputnik13I would agree, I'm sure it's on someone's list :)23:00
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qhartmanTo a new user, right now it looks like "you can either do this really complicated looking new thing that has a ton of features you don't need, or you can do this fairly simple thing, and have what you want."23:01
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qhartmancool, well, with that in mind, I'll dive into neutron23:01
qhartmanthanks for the pointer23:01
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sputnik13IMHO ostack is complicated, period...  it's up to you to make it easier on yourself by using some sort of deployment tool23:01
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qhartmanyeah, I'm using MAAS/JuJu23:02
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qhartmanbut that still leaves the fundamental choice of which pieces23:02
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sputnik13good luck with that, hope you have enough nodes :)23:02
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qhartmanyeah, I've got 8 to start with23:02
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orzelis it possible to use neutron with a simple setup as was nova-network (simple to configure + not needing vlan-aware switches) ???23:03
qhartmanfor what we're trying to do it should work23:03
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sputnik13if you're not planning to go to hundreds of nodes, maas/juju's model is overkill IMO23:03
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qhartmanthe MAAS / JuJu setup is a little annoying with how many management machines it wants out of the box23:03
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qhartmanI'm thinking about using some LXC containers to collapse them23:03
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sputnik13although you can reduce some of that impact by using VMs or containers23:03
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sputnik13at least a year or so ago when I was looking at maas/juju, the thing they didn't do so well was ensuring configurations stayed working23:04
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qhartmansputnik13, yeah, probably is overkill, but there's a chance we will get there, and even if not, there's lots of destroying / starting over happening that it helps facilitate23:04
sputnik13it's about deploy and forget...  if someone goes and tweaks this or that file you can't get it back to a working state just with juju23:04
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orzelsputnik13: there's not date on this link you gave. But it says "viable option for the next 12/18 months" ... any idea when it was published ?23:07
sputnik13orzel: nope, the link says "trunk"23:07
sputnik13yes neutron supports flat networking23:08
orzelsputnik13: (not according to this page)23:08
sputnik13more precisely what you're looking for is gre23:08
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sputnik13at least that would be my best guess23:08
orzelgre ? the tunnel-embedding stuff ? looks more complicated / overhead than just flat dhcp :)23:09
sputnik13which neutron does support, I'm pretty sure23:09
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sputnik13http://docs.openstack.org/training-guides/content/module002-ch003-neutron-use-cases.html23:09
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sputnik13http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/section_neutron-single-flat.html23:09
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sputnik13doesn't seem to work "out of the box" still but it's there23:10
qhartmanbut yeah, back on the MAAS/JuJu topic, I'm not toally sold on it23:10
qhartmanIt has saved me a ton of time burning down and rebuilding systems though23:10
sputnik13I'm sold on the idea, not on the ostack implementation :)23:10
qhartmanbut a normal PXE/netboot setup would do that too, soo....23:11
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sputnik13but a "normal pxe/netboot" isn't integrated with a deployment configuration tool23:11
qhartmanright23:11
sputnik13although I think foreman does something very much like it23:11
qhartmanit has it's merits for sure23:11
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sputnik13foreman also looks more complicated to me than juju23:11
qhartmanyeah foreman does, and pxe/netboot + chef (which we're already using for VM management) would get most of hte way there23:12
sputnik13but none of them have the nice visual gui :)23:12
sputnik13for setting up "relationships"23:12
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sputnik13I love that idea, the implementation just has a ways to go23:12
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qhartmanyeah23:14
qhartmanand for OS it's not neccesarily obvious which relationships you need23:15
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qhartmanand the docs haven't been updated for Trusty / Icehouse, so there's a lot of gaps. They are small, but to the uninitiated, they are time sinks23:15
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ctooleyIs there a way to add floating ip pools in the Horizon UI?23:19
ctooleyIs that what the IP ranges in the Subnets section of a network actually map to?23:19
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ctooleyI'm following the instructions here: http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/install-guide/install/yum/content/neutron-initial-networks.html23:45
ctooleyBut, when i get to the part of creating the router, the port status stays DOWN for both sides of the router.23:45
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