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copernic | Hi | 02:27 |
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copernic | knock knock | 02:28 |
tms | hrm? | 02:28 |
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copernic | pardon? hrm what? | 02:28 |
copernic | I would like to ask a question please | 02:29 |
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tms | ... | 02:30 |
tms | what's your question? | 02:30 |
copernic | Dear all, how to get blobs using ranges | 02:30 |
tms | ? | 02:30 |
copernic | more exactly | 02:30 |
copernic | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23832791/how-to-get-a-multi-part-object-from-openstack-swift-using-jclouds | 02:31 |
copernic | swiftApi = ContextBuilder.newBuilder(provider) .endpoint("....") .credentials(identity, credentials) .modules(modules) .buildApi(SwiftApi.class); final ObjectApi objectApi = swiftApi.objectApiInRegionForContainer(REGION, CONTAINER); GetOptions getOptions = GetOptions.Builder.range(0,10).range(100, 200); S | 02:31 |
copernic | oh | 02:31 |
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notmyname | copernic: paste.openstack.org may be better for you | 02:31 |
copernic | the question is about GetOptions.Builder.range(0,10).range(100, 200); | 02:31 |
tms | ^^ | 02:31 |
copernic | thanks | 02:31 |
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copernic | http://paste.openstack.org/show/81259/ | 02:32 |
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notmyname | copernic: rfc2616 states that if you send multiple byte ranges, then you'll get back a multipart mime response | 02:34 |
notmyname | copernic: that's what you're seeing | 02:34 |
copernic | perfect | 02:34 |
copernic | I agree BUT | 02:35 |
copernic | I assumed that jclouds will do the parsing | 02:35 |
notmyname | copernic: that sounds like something you may need to take up with jclouds | 02:35 |
copernic | at least this is what I see in jcloud blob storage unit tests | 02:35 |
notmyname | perhaps they should do the parsing | 02:35 |
copernic | agreed | 02:36 |
copernic | well can I ask about server side at least | 02:36 |
notmyname | but on the other hand, it looks like it's giving you what the server responded with. so that seems sane too | 02:36 |
notmyname | I can answer about the server-side :-) | 02:36 |
copernic | great | 02:36 |
copernic | how effective is this random access using ranges | 02:37 |
copernic | to be more exact | 02:37 |
copernic | imaging blobs of 4 - 8 MB | 02:37 |
copernic | made of 32KB chunks | 02:37 |
notmyname | ok | 02:37 |
copernic | and I am storing very large amount of data | 02:38 |
copernic | lets say > 400 TB | 02:38 |
copernic | the idea is | 02:38 |
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copernic | in order not to overstream, I assume that most of the time | 02:39 |
copernic | I will use this range API to slice blobs as I need | 02:39 |
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copernic | yes I understand the overhead of header string in multi part chunk | 02:39 |
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copernic | and if I need lets say more than 75% of the blob I will fetch it as is | 02:40 |
copernic | but in the rest of the cases | 02:40 |
Sam-I-Am | hi notmyname | 02:40 |
notmyname | Sam-I-Am: good evening | 02:40 |
copernic | how fast / effective is the range based access ? | 02:41 |
Sam-I-Am | notmyname: hows things? | 02:41 |
notmyname | copernic: the overhead of a range request in a single 8MB object in swift should not be noticeable. essentially it's a seek() and that overhead will be much less than any network jitter you have | 02:42 |
notmyname | Sam-I-Am: meh. this week has had it's ups and downs | 02:42 |
Sam-I-Am | sounds like a week! | 02:42 |
notmyname | Sam-I-Am: work's been great! family has been great. but on monday I fell off my bike on the way home and broke my collar bone | 02:43 |
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copernic | thanks | 02:43 |
Sam-I-Am | notmyname: yuck | 02:44 |
Sam-I-Am | its a bad design... especially for us cyclists | 02:44 |
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notmyname | copernic: so why do the range requests? will you be gettign the chunks out of order? | 02:44 |
Sam-I-Am | need human 2.0 | 02:44 |
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notmyname | copernic: I should say "stream" instead of chunks, actually | 02:44 |
copernic | when I say chunk I mean 32kb part of 8 mb blob | 02:45 |
copernic | when I read blob by slicing it - I do that since blob contains chunk (segment) that I need | 02:45 |
notmyname | copernic: ya, I understand | 02:45 |
copernic | but if on the server side you load every blob into memory | 02:46 |
copernic | then it might be a bad idea | 02:46 |
copernic | and if blob == file | 02:46 |
copernic | when all blobs will be always cold from file system cache perspective | 02:46 |
notmyname | copernic: swift does not spool stuff to memory | 02:46 |
notmyname | copernic: right | 02:46 |
copernic | great, so I assume that you vectorized io of some kind | 02:47 |
notmyname | copernic: so there is a setting that will let you keep your 8MB objects in page cache, if necessary | 02:47 |
copernic | and no loading into memory | 02:47 |
copernic | and you do have problem of cold cache | 02:47 |
copernic | due to the size of the storage that I plan all the blob accesses will be cold | 02:47 |
copernic | notmyname -- sorry I know I have to read this rfc 2616, but do you know if | 02:49 |
copernic | server sends stream of multi part elements without encoding | 02:50 |
copernic | ? | 02:50 |
notmyname | what do you mean by encoding? | 02:50 |
notmyname | the answer, I believe, is no | 02:50 |
copernic | i.e. I am asking if I shall prepare for surprise as 64b encoding | 02:50 |
copernic | good | 02:50 |
notmyname | copernic: no. swift will send you back the bytes you sent it | 02:50 |
copernic | so the plan is I am going to parse the input stream till I get to my slice and it shall work \ | 02:51 |
copernic | great | 02:51 |
notmyname | copernic: may I ask what your use case is? sounds like you're building something interesting | 02:51 |
notmyname | and I'm always looking to see how people are using swift | 02:51 |
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copernic | write me directly - I will tell you enough details without being fired from my work :) | 02:52 |
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notmyname | lol | 02:52 |
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warik_ | ps | 03:49 |
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cydergoth | Anyone about? Our stack just crashed hard | 04:03 |
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cydergoth | Neutron just blew up badly and a lot of stuff we had working is now suddenly failing all over the place, especially floating ips which were working fine now aren't, except some which we disassociate and reassociate then they might come back to life but not all do | 04:08 |
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copernic | FYI: | 04:11 |
copernic | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23832791/how-to-get-a-multi-part-object-from-openstack-swift-using-jclouds | 04:11 |
copernic | https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JCLOUDS-575 | 04:11 |
copernic | the bug was opened a few minutes ago. | 04:11 |
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cydergoth | Hey copernic - do you know anything about neutron? | 04:12 |
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Madkiss | Do I need the SECURITYGROUPS entry inside the OVS configuration on the neutron server as well? | 06:04 |
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dgbaley | Hey. I'm using Icehouse/Neutron/ml2/openvswitch. I have a smaller setup with my external network (for floating public IPs) connected to each compute node, so I don't think I need a network node, but I'm not sure which neutron services should run on my single controller, and which can be replicated to all compute nodes. | 07:47 |
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KaZeR | i have a really weird issue. My ubuntu instances can't get an ip address from dhcp. my Gentoo instances, in the same tenant and on the same compute node can | 18:12 |
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KaZeR | here's the tcpump ether host of my ubuntu instance, from the compute node : http://bpaste.net/show/NQz5qrXjvzpbtZXHYFF5/ | 18:13 |
esko | is there an estimate of how many developers are working on the openstack project? | 18:13 |
KaZeR | esko, you can have a look at the contributors on github | 18:15 |
KaZeR | tho there's more people than that working on it ( like bug managers, docs, ...) | 18:15 |
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esko | yeah KaZeR but i was under the impression that it was only possible to see # contributors for each project and not as a whole | 18:23 |
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KaZeR | possible indeed | 18:24 |
esko | correct me if im wrong :) i'm trying to come up with some statistics for my cloud comparison | 18:24 |
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esko | it amazes me that the only hardware req specs available in the openstack manual is the one for the object storage | 19:09 |
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MrCurious | anyone tried coreos on openstack? | 19:31 |
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madorn | anyone have any experience with pxe booting in OpenStack? | 19:43 |
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sigmavirus24 | jogo: /wc | 19:54 |
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jazzsunn | I having a hard time wrapping my head around openstack. I'm a route switch network person, and i have used vmware in production networks. I can write easy perl scripts, but not a developer. Is there a openstack for dummies link I could get started with? | 23:26 |
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fivethreeo | If i get the error NovaException: Unexpected vif_type=binding_failed, what could be wrong? :) | 23:36 |
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