Thursday, 2014-05-29

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orzelnotmyname: i got this when i try to create a container : http://pastebin.com/dHnYZVV200:00
orzelnotmyname: seems like the "automatic user creation" stuff is failing.. ?00:01
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notmynameorzel: I think it's the invalid user token00:01
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notmynameorzel: first, I'd make sure you can do whatever you want as the keystone user. at that point, you know that swift is working and properly configured, at least from the perspective of storing your stuff00:02
notmynameorzel: then, use that admin user to give permissions to another user and make sure that other user can do stuff00:02
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orzelyour remark on token made me try this00:03
notmynameorzel: and finally, figure out the keystone roles to know how you can have a non-keystone-admin user doing stuff in swift00:03
orzellogout of horizon, and log again. And now it works :/00:03
orzelthis is just.... weird00:03
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orzelnotmyname: (thx a lot for your time)00:05
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notmynameorzel: I'm glad it works (although I too don't know why the horizon cycle did anything--session cookies maybe?)00:06
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orzelnotmyname: my guess is that it ask for a token only when the user connect and use it for the whole session00:19
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notmynameorzel: which makes sense. sorta00:20
orzeldango-storage-swift uses some very old version of keystone/swift clients. I guess that the reason why if fails so badly00:20
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notmynameorzel: hmm..that's unfortunate. the swift api hasn't changed that much. maybe it's still using keystone's v1 auth protocol?00:20
orzeldebugging, i can find that the problem is that keystone returns 200 /auth ok and all BUT there's no header "x-storage-url" and that breaks it all00:21
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orzelit's using keystone v2.000:21
notmynameorzel: ah. yes. that's the v1 protocol00:21
notmynamethe headers is v100:21
orzelah ? dang00:21
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notmynameso either you have to tell django storages to speak v2+ or you need to configure keystone to accept v100:21
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orzeltheir example conf says to use v2.0/  It seems my keystone doesn't speak v1.000:21
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notmynameorzel: their? the django storages?00:22
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notmynameorzel: also, you've mentioned both keystone and horizon, but only in the context of swift. are you using nova/cinder/neutron or anything else?00:23
notmynameorzel: if you are just using swift, then I can walk you through using a different auth system that will work with django storages (assuming that django storages only supports the v1 auth protocol)00:25
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orzelnotmyname: i'm using nova/cinder/glance already. I want keystone i think. not the tempauth stuff00:29
orzelwhici is swift only, iiuc00:30
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notmynameorzel: right. there's also swauth and maybe a few others. but those are generally swift-only or swift-with-something-else00:30
notmynameorzel: just checking on the scope of what's needed :-)00:30
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orzelnotmyname: it's ok, you helped me enough anyway. I'll find out this one alone :)00:31
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notmynameorzel: it's dangerous to go alone. take this: http://swift.openstack.org00:32
notmyname(I'm sure you've already spent time there. just looking for something to fill in the blank ;-) )00:32
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r0j4z0hi!00:42
r0j4z0someone here for a ceilometer question?00:42
longguangwhat is the difference between epel-openstack-havana.repo and rdo-release-havana-8?  thanks00:43
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longguangwhat is rdo?00:43
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r0j4z0RDO is the openstack from redhat00:43
r0j4z0RDO are a set of scripts to install and manage an openstack cloud00:44
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longguangwhat is the diffference?00:45
longguangepel and rdo00:45
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r0j4z0they are different package repositories, with RDO repo you will be install OpenStack from redhat with their utilities and things like that00:46
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r0j4z0from epel you get a usual copy of openstack00:46
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longguangyou mean  each version of openstack corresponding to two packages both are from redhat , because of different repo?00:49
longguangopenstack rpm version00:49
r0j4z0yes, i know RDO have different packages than for example epel o centos repo00:50
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r0j4z0RDO have his own tools to install/manage openstack00:51
longguangwhich one is better  , even both repo can be used00:51
r0j4z0normally both are at the same code level, try both and select what you like more00:52
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longguanghaha00:52
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longguangepel is mostly like offical release, and rdo has more changes and tools?00:54
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orzelnotmyname: i got a full list of url, this one among them, do not worry :)00:58
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orzelnotmyname: it works now btw. I can "collectstatic" on swift from django (if you know what collecstatic is)01:00
orzelit's _slow_, really amazing01:00
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orzelkeystone and mysql are on their knee on a quite powerful server01:00
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orzeli guess it's kinda optimized for the "get" rather than the put...01:03
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davidbowlbyhas anyone on here migrated a ubuntu server from vmware to openstack using backup/restore rather than vmdk transfer?01:28
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imperfect-Anyone know if ESXi can be used at compute? I saw something about a plugin to make it happen02:35
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kypeHi, is it possible to get Swift installed when install rdo Packstack?04:53
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kypeAnyone used rdo here? Got this error during installation ERROR : Failed to run remote script, stdout: no package provides puppet05:16
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Akshikis there a command to know the overall capacity of my cinder06:16
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vaidyanathi am unable to login to trystack with my facebook06:25
vaidyanathis anyone facing the same issue?06:25
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kypeAnyone know if the openstack cirros image is capable of doing anything?07:30
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kypegiorgiodinapoli It doesnt accept my keyboard input? Does the login work? As i whatever i type does not get shown in console07:32
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aniketi am gettiing error while running stack.sh  as -ERROR] /home/ubuntu/devstack/lib/rpc_backend:152 Failed to set rabbitmq password07:32
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aniket<kype>i am gettiing error while running stack.sh  as -ERROR] /home/ubuntu/devstack/lib/rpc_backend:152 Failed to set rabbitmq password07:36
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guest777Hi, I have a doubt about how the netron works, I'm using ml2 plugin with gre, and I would like to know if for each virtual network the neutron will create a new gre tunnel? Or if it use just one tunnel for all virtual networks.08:16
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guest777Hi, I have a doubt about how the netron works, I'm using ml2 plugin with gre, and I would like to know if for each virtual network the neutron will create a new gre tunnel? Or if it use just one tunnel for all virtual networks.08:55
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kypeIs this the auth_url for rally -> "http://localhost:5000/v2.0/" or isit this "http://localhost:35357/v2.0/"09:09
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anikethi all09:17
aniketcan anybody tell me what changes should i do to connect my instance to internet?? i am using 1 NIC09:17
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aniketcan anybody tell me what changes should i do to connect my instance to internet?? i am using 1 NIC09:48
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Wayn3_is the nova.conf file format different for different formats?10:32
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Wayn3_i mean differennt OS10:33
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mbeierlIs there a way to restrict a tenant to a specific availability zone or host aggregate?12:16
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guest777Hi, I have a doubt about how the netron works, I'm using ml2 plugin with gre, and I would like to know if for each virtual network the neutron will create a new gre tunnel? Or if it use just one tunnel for all virtual networks. Or for all the tennants?14:11
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georgem2guest777:neutron creates GRE tunnels between compute nodes and the network nodes in a full mesh, but only one GRE tunnel for all networks14:18
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MTughanI'm wanting to use WaitConditions in a Heat template to control the order in which my resources are created. I only see the AWS-compatible resource types right now, which is fine with me. Do I just use cfn-signal as an AWS template would to signal completion?15:15
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larsksMTughan: I think that should work.  When experimenting with wait conditions, I just used "curl" to perform the notification.15:22
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MTughanlarsks: What kind of URL does it pass? I'm just somewhat concerned because I could never get the metadata URL to work.15:23
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MTughanI had to switch to the configuration drive to get the metadata on VMs.15:23
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larsksMTughan: Hmm, I would spend some time figuring out why metadata access wasn't working. I can't remember exactly what the URL looked like, but it was pointing into the Heat API.  I had a HOT template that dropped the URL into a file for later consumption...15:24
MTughanThat's not a bad idea. I'll try dropping the URL in one server before I roll it out.15:24
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MTughanWhy would a Heat template need permission to list roles? I'm getting an error in creation.15:37
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larsksWhat's the error?15:41
MTughanAn unauthorized error when trying to perform action "Identity:List Roles" or something like that.15:41
MTughanI've already deleted and recreated the stack with admin priveleges on my account now for testing and that worked, but I'd be curious to know why it was required.15:42
larsksHmm, not sure about that one. You may want to try visiting #heat with the exact error message and that question.15:42
larsksHeat does need to create identities in keystone to support wait conditions, maybe this is related? Not sure.15:43
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MTughanHuh, that's odd. That's probably why.15:44
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systadmniHey folks, trying to get openstack installed on ubuntu 14.04 and i'm at the point where I am configuring nova and running into an error.  In the installation guide, it states that I need to create the compute service tables by running "su -s /bin/sh -c "nova-manage db sync" nova - This generates the following error: 3596 TRACE nova ArgumentError: Could not parse rfc1738 URL from string 'mysql=://novaadmin:*****@localhost/nova'15:45
systadmnifull error: http://pastebin.com/v6afS5fb15:46
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systadmnianyone have any idea how I can resolve this issue?15:46
systadmniI have double checked the connection entry in the nova.conf file and it all appears to be configured correctly15:47
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MTughansystadmni: Remove the "=" after mysql from your conf file.15:48
sinhmind pastebin'ing the conf?15:48
sinhoh derp15:48
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sinhthat was a simple enough solution15:48
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systadmniMTughan: man, that WAS easy, too bad my eyes didn't pick that up.  Thanks!15:55
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magicrobotmonkeyif i have two cinder-volume nodes, is it possible to force one to be used over the other?16:21
tnovacikdoes anyone know what should i do, when i got this error from contact information form on https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/contact? (http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1401380147.png)16:21
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georgem2magicrobotmonkey: is this what you want? http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/multi_backend.html16:35
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magicrobotmonkeyah sort of16:36
magicrobotmonkeyty16:36
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moos3can one tell me why this https://gist.github.com/moos3/7db75d2f8fdf5629d452 failed to get a ip address from dhcp ?16:42
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moos3i followed this to a T http://openstack.redhat.com/Neutron_with_existing_external_network16:43
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MTughanmoos3: Your metadata request isn't working.16:43
MTughanAs for why that's not going, I'm not sure. I've had the same problem before and gave up on it after about 3 days of work.16:43
moos3i'm just trying to get my vm's accessible to my network16:44
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moos3and use the physical net and not have a bunch of virtual routers etc16:44
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magicrobotmonkeymoos3: you have a dhcp server on your physical net?16:45
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moos3yup16:46
moos3and it works just fine16:46
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magicrobotmonkeyI'd start tcpdumping various interfaces and see where the dhcp requests are failing16:47
moos3I'm wondering if it has to do with the billion iptable rules it adds16:47
magicrobotmonkeyor where the responses are failing16:47
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MTughanmoos3: I'm still thinking it has something to do with metadata. Can you try modifying your nova.conf and restart nova-api?16:47
moos3 how should I modify the nova.con16:48
magicrobotmonkeydhcp comes before metadata doesn't it?16:48
MTughanPut a line in it that says "force_config_drive=always" and try again. That will use a config drive instead of the metadata service.16:48
MTughanmagicrobotmonkey: I believe the IP address is passed in metadata.16:48
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MTughanThat's how I solved my problem, although I may have to switch back to the metadata IP address and try to solve that problem for other reasons.16:48
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zynzelMTughan: metadata is available over http.16:48
zynzelso you need ip to access metadata.16:49
zynzeland this issue dont have anything common with metadata.16:49
MTughanzynzel: http://169.254.169.254 never resolved connections for me.16:49
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zynzelmoos3: check if dhcp request go outside compute node.16:49
MTughanAnd I thought I remembered having the same problem.16:49
zynzelMTughan: 169.254.169.254 is forwarded by compute node to metadata-api16:49
MTughanOh, sorry. zynzel's right. It's trying to get a lease before metadata.16:49
zynzelbut to forward anything, you need l3 connectivity.16:49
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georgem2zynzel:cloud-init looks for metadata over the http OR using the config-drive16:50
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moos3zynzel trying16:50
zynzelgeorgem2: yes, but most common form to access metadata is http.16:50
MTughanzynzel: That's how it *should* be, yes. I was seeing connection attempts on the metadata-api, but the TCP ACK never made it back to the VM.16:50
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grothendieckMTughan: Make sure the network interfaces are all set correctly in nova.conf on the hypervisor16:58
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MTughangrothendieck: Even when using Neutron?16:58
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grothendieckI had the same problem (using flatDHCP for networking on a test cluster) and it ended up being due to public_interface being set to the wrong NIC16:59
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MTughanExcept I'm not using nova-network.17:00
grothendieckMTughan: I'm not sure how neutron changes things.17:00
grothendieckRight17:00
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grothendieckMTughan: Does neutron use IPtables for routing the metadata requests?17:01
MTughanYes.17:01
MTughanI'm just looking through my Neutron conf file now. I don't see any reference to my external interface here.17:02
grothendieckDo you see the IPtables rule show up when you run 'iptables -L' on the hypervisor?17:02
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grothendieckit should route requests for the metadata IP that are coming from VM ip range to the ip for the metadata service17:02
MTughangrothendieck: Looking for this in the nova-api-INPUT chain? "ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             blade2               tcp dpt:8775"17:03
grothendieckmaybe 'iptables -t nat -L'17:03
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MTughannova-network-PREROUTING: "DNAT       tcp  --  anywhere             169.254.169.254      tcp dpt:http to:10.6.2.2:8775"17:03
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MTughan10.6.2.2 is my controller IP.17:03
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zynzeleh ;)17:04
MTughangrothendieck: Don't know if you saw this before, but I was seeing the connection attempts on my controller. I could see the connections in lsof as SYN_RECV. It never got beyond there.17:04
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zynzeland how do you want access http service17:04
zynzelwithout ip address? :)17:04
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MTughanzynzel: Sorry?17:04
grothendieckroot@node04:/home/grumps# iptables -t nat -L | grep '169.254.169.254'17:04
grothendieckDNAT       tcp  --  anywhere             169.254.169.254      tcp dpt:http to:10.4.50.202:877517:04
grothendieckhm17:04
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zynzelfix ip issue, after than debug metadata issue (this will dissapear probably) :)17:05
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zynzelMTughan: you dont get ip address from dhcp, so you can not access metadata-api17:05
MTughangrothendieck: Going off the TCP handshake, that means that the SYN was received from the VM, the controller sent the ACK, but the VM never received the ACK to send the SYN-ACK.17:05
zynzelfirst of all, fix dhcp issue :)17:05
grothendieckright17:05
MTughanzynzel: That was moos3, not me.17:05
MTughanI have DHCP.17:05
zynzelMTughan: oh my ;)17:05
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zynzelsorry then. :)17:05
MTughannp, it gets confusing sometimes.17:06
moos3zynzel it appears that the request isn't leaving my openstack neutron network for some reason17:06
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grothendieckMTughan: can the VMs ping to anything outside the network?17:07
MTughanmoos3: The VMs are connected to ext-net?17:07
MTughangrothendieck: Yes, they can download updates from Ubuntu's servers even.17:07
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grothendieckhm17:07
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grothendieckcan they ping the metadata server IP?17:07
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moos3https://www.dropbox.com/s/22vgda5oa7sfyy0/Screenshot%202014-05-29%2013.07.48.png17:07
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moos3thats the topo per openstack17:07
moos3172.16.0.0/16 is my physical network17:08
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MTughangrothendieck: I can do you one better. "curl http://10.6.2.2:8775/" gets what I would expect to see if metadata was working.17:08
MTughanmoos3: Wait, where are they getting those IPs from?17:08
moos3the allocation pool17:09
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MTughanBut you said they're supposed to get DHCP, which means your allocation pool is on the DHCP server, right?17:09
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grothendieckhttp://ceph.com/docs/master/radosgw/federated-config/17:10
moos3no it shouldn't be17:10
moos3https://www.dropbox.com/s/600fqmxp7tq7bnj/Screenshot%202014-05-29%2013.10.00.png17:10
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grothendieckoops wrong channel, sorry17:10
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moos3[root@openstack2 ~(keystone_admin)]# neutron subnet-create --name public_subnet --enable_dhcp=False --allocation-pool=start=172.16.230.10,end=172.16.242.200 --gateway=172.16.1.2 public 172.16.0.0/1617:10
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moos3per the flat network docs on RDO17:10
moos3http://openstack.redhat.com/Neutron_with_existing_external_network17:10
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grothendieckMTughan: the problem you're getting sounds exactly like what I was dealing with under flat networking with nova-network17:11
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MTughanmoos3: That seems odd then... External DHCP means there should be no subnet in neutron, as that subnet already exists outside of Neutron.17:11
moos3yeah I know17:11
grothendieckmake sure neutron is configured correctly with the right network interfaces, let me know how that shakes out17:11
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moos3I followed the documentation and still can't get this to work17:12
MTughangrothendieck: I've got to track them down again, so give me a second.17:12
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grothendieckcool17:12
grothendieckthe docs are often misleading17:12
grothendieckIIRC it was following the docs that got me into that mess17:12
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Marek1211while deploying with juju -how do I know which charms should be related to wchich ones..? In the GUI it gives me suggestion which charms I CAN link to which, so should I just make as many links as I can? Its openstack deployment.17:12
grothendieckI think they copy-pasted config sections in the docs without changing the values or something'17:12
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annegentlegrothendieck: never! :) Our saying is "I don't often install OpenStack by hand, but when I do, I always mess up a config setting"17:13
annegentleI need to tweet that17:13
MTughangrothendieck: Oh, one more thing. If I do a curl request on the router, it works. "curl http://10.7.11.1:9697/" returns the list of supported protocols.17:13
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moos3MTughan so i'm not sure what I should tyr now17:14
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MTughanmoos3: Sorry, I'm sort of switching between two different trains of thought here.17:14
moos3its fine17:15
grothendieckannegentle: heh, next time I deploy openstack by hand I17:15
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grothendieckwill double check the docs for correctness17:15
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MTughanmoos3: I'm not sure I can help you too much other than to say that layout looks off. As to how it should be, I'm not sure right now.17:15
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grothendieckMTughan: that sounds exactly like what I was getting when the network config was wrong in nova.conf17:16
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grothendiecksymptoms you describe are 100% the same as what I went through17:16
MTughangrothendieck: I'm going to get the iptables rules from the router again to see what's missing. Maybe I just need a reverse path.17:16
moos3yeah anyone else have experince with icehouse and using the external network ?17:16
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grothendieckMTughan: let me know what you find17:16
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MTughanzynzel: Do you have metadata working? Would you be able to compare iptables rules with me?17:21
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MTughangrothendieck: There's only one reference to the name of my external network in the neutron configuration, but it's a commented out line. It's for external_network_bridge, but the comment says it should be left blank for the linux bridge. As to what that means, I'm not sure.17:23
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moos3MTughan shouldn't my host be able to ping the vm ?17:28
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MTughanmoos3: In theory, yes. You'll probably need promiscuous mode turned on on the NIC though if it's not already.17:28
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MTughangrothendieck: Okay, I'm not even seeing a SYN_ACK now because the request is going out on the external network. Looks like it's being dropped by the edge router though because it's a link-local address.17:34
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MTughanOr that's what it looks like with traceroute anyway, which uses ICMP, which isn't redirected by iptables... Never mind.17:35
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MTughanYou know, I may see a mismatch here... Hold on.17:36
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grothendieckgood catch17:37
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visualnehey does anyone know if packstack supports neutron for an all in once icehouse release17:39
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MTughanThat's weird... A request to 169.254.169.254 doesn't even appear to be hitting the router's internal interface.17:45
_cjones_larsks, you around?17:45
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larsksHere now!17:51
larsksMTughan: What do your routes look like in your instances?17:51
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MTughanlarsks: Sorry, I'll be away again for a couple minutes. Working on something else right now.18:11
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larsksMTughan: Eh, no worries on my end!:)18:11
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telemonsterBooting snapshot images via Horizon, some work -- some have the last updated text via web-vnc console in horizon as "booting from Hard Disk...18:21
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telemonster"18:21
telemonsterpings, but no other services reachable18:22
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georgem2telemonster:check the second console18:33
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clfhHi does anyone know if canonical is planning on releasing havana debs for 14.04?18:41
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J_ManHello everyone!  I have been working on setting up a POC Openstack installation for my company, and I'm running into some weirdness in the networking.  I've got one controller node and three compute nodes, using the legacy nova-networking rather than Neutron (at least for now).19:01
J_Mannova-network runs on each compute node19:01
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J_ManI think my first problem is that br100 on each compute node gets assigned the same IP (x.y.z.1) - but I can't figure out how to solve that19:02
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qhartmanIs there a way to attach a cinder volume to a physical machine? I'm getting terrible performance from my volumes on ceph (~15MB/s) but when I use rbd to map something directly to a physical machine it works great.19:13
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qhartmanI've tested with vm's running from ceph volumes, as well as vms running from instance storage with the ceph volumes attached.19:16
qhartmanEither version gives the same poor performance19:16
telemonstergeorgem2 - what do you mean by 2nd console?19:16
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georgem2telemonster:Alt+F219:17
telemonstervia the web browser?19:17
georgem2telemonster:yes, click inside the console window and then press ALT+F219:18
telemonsterholy shit. WEll, I'm on a mac so I had to guess around19:18
telemonsterIt just has a cursor19:18
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georgem2telemonster:I'm thinking if you can ping the fixed IP of that instance, maybe the console screen didn't refresh but it's waiting at the console prompt19:19
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telemonsterssh isn't reachable either, and it should be. Kind of odd19:19
telemonsterI was looking at the qemu command lines to see if there is some sort of serial redirect I could reach on the compute node but doesn't look like it19:20
georgem2telemonster:the console log is also useful19:20
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sebas5384hey guys!19:22
sebas5384whats the best way to install all-in-one openstack in ubuntu server ?19:22
sebas5384other than devstack :P19:22
georgem2telemonster:if you really want to see what that instance is doing, you can run "nova show instance_ID" to get the compute node where it's running, ssh there and run "virsh vncdisplay instance-000000XXX" and then use vncdisplay to connect to that compute node on the port 590X19:22
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qhartmansebas5384, other than devstack, you pretty much have to do it by handd19:26
qhartmansebas5384, juju (and all the other automation I've looked at) does not support that kind of deployment19:26
sebas5384yep qhartman that's the thing, i just want to have openstack in one big machine using lxc19:27
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sebas5384qhartman: i even tried to make juju deploy the compute-node out of a container, but didn't work well19:28
sebas5384so i was looking at ansible19:28
qhartmansebas5384, yeah, juju has some support for multiplexing stuff via LXcs, but not everything works19:28
sebas5384but they use virtualbox19:28
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qhartmanI fought with JuJu and some other tools are well to get a "different than we decided" deployment going for over a week19:28
qhartmanultimately did it by hand and was done in aday19:28
sebas5384yep qhartman, nova-compute-node must be in a baremetal like19:29
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sebas5384yeah, i'm doing that now ¬¬ but its really really expensive, because its a lot of details that you can miss hehe19:29
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J_Manguys...how do you stop nova-network from setting the IP of your bridge to the ".1" ip?19:30
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qhartmanIt's not as hard as it looks, I pretty much just followed the guide on openstack.org and it worked as described19:30
J_Manbeen searching for this for hours19:30
qhartmanJ_Man, I think this will help: http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-compute/admin/content/dnsmasq.html19:31
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J_Manqhartman, not really :(19:31
J_Manproblem I'm having right now is I have 3 compute nodes, each node running nova-network19:32
J_Manbut on each compute node, br100 gets dumped with the x.y.z.1 ip address19:32
J_Manand it's causing all kinds of issues for us19:32
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sebas5384qhartman: the icehouse?19:33
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qhartmansebas5384, yes19:33
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sebas5384qhartman: good to know19:34
sebas5384i'm stuck with an error with lxc in openstack19:34
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sebas5384icehouse19:34
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sebas5384apparently the only way to make it work is downgrading the libvirt driver19:35
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pgsnakeHi. I'm having problems getting the AggregateImagePropertiesIsolation scheduler filter to work in Icehouse running on CentOS. Is there anyone around who might be able to point me in the right direction? In a nutshell, the debug logs tell me the filter always returns all of my hosts, even though only 1 should match.19:52
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qhartmanoh19:53
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qhartmanJ_Man, you need to run the metadata service on your compute nodes19:54
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qhartmanJ_Man, that should solve your ip collision problem19:54
J_Manqhartman, it is running, as far as I know19:54
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qhartmanJ_Man, hm. I have multiple compute nodes going and they are all getting their br100 interface assigned to the same ip and it's working fine for me19:55
J_Manqhartman - each compute node has 26 instances of nova-api-metadata19:55
qhartmanAre you using nova-network as well, or neutron?19:55
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J_Mannova-network19:55
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qhartmanhm, same here19:56
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J_ManI guess I don't see how anything can be working when you have 3 nodes, all on the same network, with the same IP address assigned19:56
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J_Manright now, if I try to ping a VM running on compute2 from a vm running on compute1, I see no evidence of the traffic leaving compute119:57
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magicrobotmonkeyJ_Man: the virtual networking gets nutty19:57
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J_Manqhartman: are your bridge interfaces in promisc mode?19:57
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qhartmanthink so, I'd have to double-check19:58
J_Manmagicrobotmonkey, you're telling me it gets nutty19:58
qhartmanhm, they are not19:58
J_Manodd...and you can ping between vm's on different hosts?19:58
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qhartmanafaik19:59
J_Manok, so now I'm even more confused :/19:59
qhartmanyeah, ping works19:59
qhartmanyou have security groups setup right?19:59
J_Manenough I should be able to ping20:00
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J_ManICMP allowed from 0.0.0.0/020:00
qhartmanyeah, that should do it20:01
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qhartmanif your default route on the nodes set to the br100 interface?20:01
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qhartmans/if/is20:01
J_Manbut if I tcpdump br100 on compute2, and start up a ping on compute1, I see nothing20:01
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J_Mancompute nodes default route to the outside is eth020:02
J_Maneth1 is connected to br10020:02
qhartmanthat might be part of it.20:03
qhartmanmy setup is:20:03
qhartmaneth0 - management net20:03
qhartmaneth1 - public net20:03
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qhartmanbr100 contains eth1 and all the vm interfaces20:03
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qhartmandefault route is the upstream router ip via the br100 interface20:03
J_Manyou don't have a separate network for vm-vm communication?20:03
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qhartmanI'm using the management net for that20:04
qhartmanerr20:04
qhartmanthe public net20:04
qhartmanmy setup is flatter than most20:04
J_ManI tried doing it that way20:04
J_Manbut ran into issues there too20:04
qhartmanI have the VMs living on the larger network with all the other real computers20:04
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J_Manok...so your compute nodes don't actually have valid IP's on your public net?20:05
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qhartmanthey do20:06
J_Manhow do you keep nova-network from overwriting the ip's you define on your public network with it's ".1" ip20:07
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J_Manthat's what kept happening to me when I tried to set it up that way20:07
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qhartmanI have a big ip space setup20:07
J_Manthe minute I brought up my first vm on a compute node, the IP I defined for the public network would disappear in favor of the ".1"20:07
J_Manso did I20:07
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qhartman10.10.8.0/2420:08
J_ManI had a /22, under which we gave openstack a /25 section20:08
qhartmanso the vms get 10.10.8.x20:08
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qhartmanand the real machines come out of 10.10.10.x20:08
qhartmanmy space isn't actually subnetted at all20:09
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qhartmanIt's using DHCP ranges to keep things from stepping on one another20:09
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J_Manare you running your DHCP on the compute nodes with dnsmasq?20:09
J_Manor an external DHCP server20:09
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qhartmanso everything is one big flat IP space, with real machines getting served by a dhcp server assigning 10.10.10.x addresses, and the vms getting 10.10.8.x via dnsmasq (coordinated by the metadata service) on each compute node20:10
qhartmanI would prefer to have everything using the real dhcp server, but that didn't work well20:10
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J_ManOK...how do you prevent dhcp clashes, if these are all part of the same physical network segment?20:10
qhartmanthe dnsmasq instances aren't visible outside the compute node20:11
J_Mandon't see how that's possible20:11
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J_Manunless you're doing something like tagged vlans at the switch level20:12
J_Manto separate the network segments20:12
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J_Manso eth1 has a 10.10.10.x IP, as well as a 10.10.8.x IP?20:13
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qhartmanno, again, in my setup 10.10.8.x and 10.10.10.x are not separate subnets20:14
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J_Manyou have 10.10.8.0/24 set as your fixed address range for openstack20:16
J_Manand, if what I've seen out of my install is any indication....that should mean each of your brdige interfaces should be assigned the IP 10.10.8.120:16
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qhartman10.10.8.0/2320:17
qhartmanyes20:17
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J_Manbut do your bridges also have 10.10.10.x ip's?20:18
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J_Man(/23 would be 10.10.8.0-10.10.9.255 as the network range)20:18
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qhartmanwhen you say bridge interface, do you mean the physical interface or the bridge?20:19
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J_Manwhen you're using a bridge...the bridge *should* contain the IP's...the physical interface connected to the bridge should not have an IP address associated with it20:19
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qhartmancorrect, jsut making sure we were o nthe same page20:20
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J_Manso in your setup, your eth1 (external interface) is connected to the bridge (br100)20:20
qhartmanyes20:20
qhartmanand br100 has 10.10.8.120:21
J_Manbut does it also have a 10.10.10.x IP?20:21
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qhartmanit shouldn't, but it seems to....20:23
qhartman :-\20:23
qhartmanhm20:23
qhartmaninteresting20:23
qhartmanon the machine itself, it shows the interface as not having an IP20:23
qhartmanbut elsewhere on the network I can reach it by a dhcp assigned ip20:23
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qhartmanso that's weird20:23
* qhartman stopped looking at this when it started working20:23
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qhartmanso it seems to have a 10.10.10.x ip, even though it doesn't know it20:24
qhartmanwhich is kinda spectacular20:24
magicrobotmonkeythats the magic of ARP20:25
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qhartmanhow would ARP help that? It get the ip and gets into the ARP table, but then loses it when the bridge is attached?20:25
magicrobotmonkeyi dunno whats the arp table on the machine you pinged from show?20:26
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J_Manhere's my setup:20:27
J_Manib0 -> management network20:27
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J_Maneth0 - external network20:27
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J_Maneth1 -> private network for Openstack VMs20:27
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J_Maneach compute node has eth1 connected to br10020:27
J_Manand each compute node's br100 has IP 192.168.18.120:28
qhartmanmagicrobotmonkey, so, just SSH'd from a machine that did not have the compute node in the ARP table before talking to it, via an IP that the node doesn't know it has.20:28
J_Manright now, I have 3 vm's running (one on each compute node)20:28
J_Manthose are 192.168.18.2,3,420:28
J_Man18.2 cannot ping 18.3 or 18.420:29
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magicrobotmonkeyyea, then what did they ARP table show afterwards?20:30
magicrobotmonkeyobviously the compute node must be responding to ARP requests, right?20:31
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J_ManI think I might know what's wrong now20:31
J_Manfind out in a second20:32
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J_Manif I'm right, I'm going to feel stupid as hell20:32
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magicrobotmonkeyheh welcome to openstack20:33
qhartmanmagicrobotmonkey, yeah, the correct MAC shows up in the ARP table, but I'm not seeing how the compute node knows to answer on that IP20:33
magicrobotmonkeyyea thats the trick i guess20:33
qhartmanso that it can get into the other machines ARP table20:33
J_Manoh my god20:33
qhartmanwhat was it?20:33
J_ManI'm going to put a hurt on our network guy20:33
magicrobotmonkeyis it one of the other interfaces on the bridge?20:33
J_Manthe interfaces on the upstream switch were never put into the right segmented vlan!20:34
qhartmand'oh20:34
J_Manso there was no network connectivity!20:34
qhartmangood thing I am the openstack guy and the network guy20:34
magicrobotmonkeyheh me too20:34
J_ManI *can* do it20:35
J_ManI just thought he had done it already for me20:35
qhartmanwomp womp20:35
J_ManOK...now....here's another question - maybe one of you guys can answer20:35
qhartmanI'm glad your problem is probably solved, though you've uncovered a new mystery for me...20:35
J_Manis it possible with the old nova-networking code to have MULTIPLE external networks?20:36
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qhartmanI don't see any reason why not20:36
qhartmanjust define another net and when you spin up a new instance tell it to be in that net20:36
J_Manyeah, but you define the public network in nova.conf20:36
J_Manhow would you go about defining the multiple networks there?20:36
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J_ManI'd like to be able to define floating IP's in different network segments20:37
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qhartmanI don't seem to have the public network defined in my nova.conf20:37
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J_Manmy doc specified this: public_interface = eth020:38
qhartmanJ_Man, ah yeah20:38
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qhartmanI do have that20:39
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davidbowlbycan you modify a nova network to add a DNS?20:39
davidbowlbyor do you have to remove it and readd20:39
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qhartmanJ_Man, I would think you would have to do it with vlan tagging20:41
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qhartmanwhen you setup the networks, IIRC, you can define vlan tags as well20:41
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davidbowlbynm I rtfm'd :)20:41
J_Manso we'd have to use vlan mode rather than FlatDHCP?20:41
qhartmanJ_Man, not sure. You're venturing into areas I've not investigated20:42
J_Manfigures20:42
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J_Manour network is pretty large and complex20:42
J_Manour "public ip's" are a full /1920:42
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J_Manand we've vlan'd that up into multiple /24's and /25's20:43
J_Manplus a private "backend" network20:43
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J_ManI'm having a hunch we're probably going to end up having to move everything to neutron20:43
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J_Manbut I can go a little farther now at least20:44
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J_Manqhartman, thank you for your help!20:44
qhartmanJ_Man, I assume this is a new deployment? If thats the case, you probably do want to use Neutron20:44
qhartmansure thing20:44
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J_Manqhartman, yeah, POC right now20:45
qhartmanThe only reason I'm not is that I don't have the resources for a speedy box to move all the network traffic through20:45
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J_ManI didn't want to go neutron because I keep reading it still doesn't scale well20:45
J_Manthat's kind of our problem as well20:45
qhartmanright20:45
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J_Manwe can easily saturate gig-e interfaces20:45
qhartmanmy use case is for local services that people are expecting high bandwidth from20:45
qhartmanyeah20:45
magicrobotmonkeyyea im worried about that too20:45
J_Manwe're considering using infiniband for it20:46
kitpthis is completely ignorant question (sorry for that upfront).  is it possible for a VM to leak memory, using all of the underlying compute node's memory - even beyond what was allocated in the instance configuration?20:46
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J_Manhypervisor *SHOULD* prevent that20:46
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qhartmanJ_Man, yeah probably a good call with a large userbase. I'm hoping I can get my hands on some 10Gb equipment20:46
J_Manunless you're over-committing the ram on your hypervisor20:46
kitpright...did the math, and we're not even close.  but, the compute node runs down to very little memory then we run into all kinds of issues.20:47
qhartmankitp, It's theoretically possible, but as J_Man says, it shouldn't happen. What hypervisor are you using?20:47
J_Manqhartman, it's not cheap...and 10Gb can kill a processor depending on what you're doing with the traffic20:47
kitpKVM.20:47
magicrobotmonkeyyea my vm net is already all 10G20:48
qhartmankitp, hm, yeah, I've never seen that happen with KVM20:48
kitpit does seem weird.20:48
qhartmanXen, yeah, but not KVM20:48
magicrobotmonkeyand the node Im gonna be using for neutron is dual 10G20:48
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J_Manunless you're overcomitting on your physical...the VM should trigger the OOM Killer before your physical machine runs out of ram20:48
kitpobviously could be something in one of the OS components...but, haven't gotten that far.20:48
qhartmanwell isn't magicrobotmonkey all benzy isn this honda group?20:48
qhartman;)20:48
magicrobotmonkeyhaha20:48
J_Manour management network is 40G infiniband LOL20:49
magicrobotmonkeyits not quite ideal yea, im working on trading up20:49
kitpight, thanks guys.  will keep digging.20:49
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qhartmanhave fun20:49
J_Manof course, that's also our SAN network20:49
magicrobotmonkeyheh i was gonna say20:49
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qhartmanheh20:49
J_Manwe got gluster going as the backing storage for cinder, glance, and so on20:50
magicrobotmonkeyugh we're trying to get off gluster20:50
qhartmanwow, so this is fun. I had a instance running on local storage and then attached a volume to it to test throughput to ceph20:50
J_ManCeph?20:50
qhartmanand when I rebooted it, they got reversed20:51
magicrobotmonkeymaybe, if i can get it to perform20:51
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qhartmanthe boot volume is now on ceph20:51
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qhartmanspeaking of20:51
magicrobotmonkeyyea hows it working for you?20:51
qhartmanat the bare ceph level, it works great20:51
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qhartmanbut from within the VMs it's slower than !#$$@%^$20:51
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qhartmanon physical hardware, I can saturate the nics easily20:52
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qhartmanbut a VM booted from a ceph volume, or with a ceph volume attached (all via cinder) can't move more then 15MB/s20:52
RealmyIs there a good slide or diagram on how to plan out NICs (namely how many) we need on control/compute/network nodes?  Or should I just do two NICs for each node regardless of function?  Sorry for the incredibly newbie question, just getting my feet wet. :(20:52
qhartmanRealmy, if you're just getting your feet wet, two is plenty20:52
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magicrobotmonkeymaybe its nova-network bottlenecking?20:53
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Realmyqhartman - sounds great!  I'll just run with two. :)20:53
qhartmanmagicrobotmonkey, the ceph stuff shouldn't be using nova-net at all20:53
magicrobotmonkeyoh right20:53
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Realmylast question- should I bond them and separate with VLAN, or is that a bad idea?20:53
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qhartmanRealmy, I wouldn't unless you have a compelling reason to. The last thing you need when learning openstack is bonus complexity20:54
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qhartmanremember, this is what you're building: http://cdn2.hubspot.net/hub/344789/file-448028030-jpg/images/openstack-arch-grizzly-logical-v2.jpg?t=138927191200020:54
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Realmyqhartman, thank you very much for your help!  I'll leave them as independent NICs. :)20:54
magicrobotmonkeylol20:54
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Realmyhah, yeah i love that diagram20:55
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Realmygood reminder as to why i need to take it slow :)20:55
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Realmythanks again!!!! :D20:55
qhartmansure thing20:55
qhartmanMy concern is that either the qemu-librbd implementation is messed up somehow20:56
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qhartmanor that because I'm usign the volumes via cinder, that the throughput is somehow bottlenecking on my cinder-api machine20:56
qhartmanit _shouldn't_ be involved at all, but I ahven't been able to confirm it's not yet20:56
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_cjones_Anyone know the cli command to associate a port to an instance? I'm using neutron networking, but can't find the command in either nova or neutron.21:21
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qhartmanwhat do you mean associate a port to an instance? What is a "port" in this case?21:23
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_cjones_ghartman: A neutron port?21:23
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_cjones_ghartman: Essentially another interface/ip-address.21:24
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qhartman_cjones_, ok, just making sure you didn't mean a TCP port21:25
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_cjones_ghartman: Can this only be done at instance boot time, or is there way to do it after?21:26
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qhartman_cjones_, sadly I can't answer your question, I don't use Neutron.21:26
_cjones_ghartman: Okay. Is it possible sans neutron?21:27
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qhartmanAlso not something I know. I've never had a need to have an instance with multiple interfaces.21:28
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jgriffithqhartman: cinder in your case has nothing to do with the throughput21:30
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qhartmanjgriffith, I didn't think it would, but I'm running out of explanations21:30
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jgriffithqhartman: yeah, reading back it's bit weird21:31
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qhartmanI'm about to experiment with using rbd to map a ceph volume into a vm and see how that performs. If it does well, that would seem to prove that the problem lies within cinder or qemu/librbd . If it does poorly, I'm not sure what that proves.21:33
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jgriffithqhartman: have you run against a ceph voume outside of Cinder/OpenStack?21:35
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jgriffithqhartman: could just be poor performance on your Ceph cluster no?21:35
qhartmanI have done that21:35
qhartmanworks great21:35
jgriffithahh21:35
qhartmansaturates the nic no problem21:35
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qhartmanI'm testing that again right now just tobe triple sure21:38
qhartmanI've been doing so many tests over the last several days trying to track this down things are starting to blur together21:38
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systadmnihey guys, attempting to setup the keystone service and i keep running into an error when I attempt to create the admin account.  It states "Expecting an auth URL via either --os-auth-url or env[OS_AUTH_URL]21:42
systadmni"21:42
systadmniI have the OS_AUTH_URL set though21:42
systadmniI can echo $OS_AUTH_URL and it will display the correct url21:42
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qhartmanare your clocks on the machines in sync?21:44
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qhartmanI uses oauth and if you have more than a few seconds clock skew, it will fail21:45
qhartmanthat error may be a red herring21:45
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systadmniqhartman: I believe they are ... this is just a setup on a single server21:45
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qhartmansystadmni, ah, then that's definitely not it21:46
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systadmniqhartman: also when I try to create a new user and just pass it with --os-auth-url=http...:5000/v2.0/ it gives me the same error21:47
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systadmnierr uhh not the same error21:47
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systadmnikeystone: error: unrecognized arguments: --os-auth-url=http://127.0.0.1:5000/v2.021:48
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qhartmanhuh21:48
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SuperdocHi21:50
SuperdocI'm looking for help with openstack key pair21:50
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qhartmansystadmni, You've gone throug hte steps here http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/install-guide/install/apt/content/keystone-install.html21:51
Superdocanyone help?21:51
qhartman(or similar for your distro?)21:51
systadmniqhartman: that's what i've been following step by step21:51
qhartmanSuperdoc, which key pair? we need more info before we can help21:51
systadmnithen I get here21:51
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Superdocok i'll explain21:51
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SuperdocI had already created a keypair called test, and i have it on my compute test.pem, I have downloaded a ubuntu cloud image and launched an instance with the test keypair, this ubuntu image doesn't have password hence it says i have to connect through ssh using keypair21:52
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Superdocso i'm doing this right now "ssh -i /home/compute/test.pem ubuntu@172.31.100.4 -v"21:53
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Superdocgets stuck at debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_ECDH_REPLY and finally says refused by the remote21:53
qhartmanwhat re the permission on test.pem ? They need to be very restrictive of ssh won't let you use it. Pretty much read-only for your user21:54
Superdochave set like this "chmod 600 MY_KEY.pem"21:54
Superdoci'm ssh from compute to ubuntu instance21:54
sigint88hello all21:55
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sigint88relatively new to OpenStack.21:55
qhartmanit would be useful to add another v to your ssh invocation and then paste the output into a pastebin21:55
qhartmanSomeone might be able to spot the specific error21:55
sigint88just wondering if anyone has heard any info on trove and its addition to IceHouse21:55
sigint88i.e is it offically included with IceHouse or not?21:56
sigint88for DBaaS implementations/deployments21:56
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Superdocok21:56
qhartmansigint88, http://www.eweek.com/cloud/openstack-icehouse-features-a-trove-of-open-source-cloud-updates.html21:56
Superdocsorry what is pastebin21:57
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qhartmanSuperdoc, http://pastebin.com/ . Lets people look at larger snips of text without cluttering up the IRC channel21:58
qhartman(there are lots of other similar services out there)21:58
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Superdochttp://pastebin.com/bn0ZE5tN21:58
Superdocyep just googled a min and uploaded21:58
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sigint88qhartman: thx21:59
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sigint88qhartman: have you heard good things about devtstack?22:00
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qhartmansigint88, given it's stated goals, it works well22:00
qhartmanSuperdoc, is that all the output? I don't see the disconnect error at the end22:01
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Superdoccopied again22:01
Superdochttp://pastebin.com/GkQhfSx222:01
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sigint88cool have  encountered any pitfalls qhartman22:03
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sigint88thx for providing  ur knowledge dmp btw22:03
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sigint88*dump22:03
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qhartmanjgriffith, So some more benchmarks. An rbd mapped volume on a physical machine moved about 25MB/s. About 10MB/sec faster than a VM. However, when I do rados bench (from the same physical machine) it goes waaaay faster22:04
qhartmansigint88, I have not ,but I haven't used it much. I spun up some quick PoC stuff with it and got familiar with Horizon, but that was about it22:04
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qhartmanSuperdoc, It's not clear to me why it's failing. It looks like the key may be wrong. Try creating a new key in Horizon and setting up a new instance using that and see if it behaves the same way.22:06
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sigint88qhartman: thats cool. Im new to python and openstack so i was wondering how to get quick enviroment up and runnning to tinker around a bit22:06
Superdocqhartman, ok, i created one but before i start a new instance, where do i find the keypair in my compute to use it to connect?22:06
Superdocit says when i say nova keypair-list22:07
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qhartmansigint88, devstack is perfect for that22:09
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qhartmanSuperdoc, it should download to the machine you were using horizon on when you generated it22:10
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sigint88qhartman: hmm, sounds good now the ill have to get over the "setting up a lab" hurdle22:11
sigint88lol22:11
Superdocqhartman, ok, its true it is downloaded to my machine, in order to ssh do i have to connect from a linux only machine or can i do it from putty?22:11
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qhartmanSuperdoc, you can do it from putty, but you'd need to convert the key into the format that putty uses22:13
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Superdocqhartman, Thanks i'll convert and give it a try22:13
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qhartmanSuperdoc, http://support.cdh.ucla.edu/help/132-file-transfer-protocol-ftp/583-converting-your-private-key-22:14
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systadmniqhartman: figured it out22:19
systadmnifor some reason if I run "sudo keystone user-create ...22:20
systadmni"22:20
systadmniit failes22:20
systadmniif I leave out sudo, it works22:20
qhartmansystadmni, ah, yeah22:20
systadmninow I know22:21
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qhartmansystadmni, the probable reason for that is that when you run sudo, your environment changes, so your vars are not set in that context22:21
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Superdocqhartman, Thank you! i could convert using the puttygen and was able to connect to the server using the private key22:22
qhartmanSuperdoc, great. I'm glad I was able to help22:22
jmickleanyone done openstack on Cisco UCS?22:23
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qhartmanjmickle, woah, aren't you looking for a purple squirrel22:23
jmickleha22:23
jmickleno kidding22:23
jmicklewould love to pick someone’s brain on cisco uvs + openstack22:23
qhartmanI've worked w/ UCS, but never w/ Openstack22:23
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Superdocqhartman, my next step is to prepare a Windows image for kvm qemu, do you know any link i can use to perform this step so i can finally upload an image and have a windows instance.22:23
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qhartmanSuperdoc, I actually do have a link to a guide for that, one sec....22:24
qhartmanSuperdoc, http://blog.gridcentric.com/bid/297627/Creating-a-Windows-Image-on-OpenStack22:24
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Superdocqhartman, thanks for the link, i'll check it out22:26
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grrrrrthanks for the link +122:28
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Superdocqhartman, I have reset password for ubuntu user in the ubuntu cloud image through the putty ssh key, how do i enable full ssh so i can connect without the need of public key pair22:31
qhartmanSuperdoc, You probably don't want to do that. Using keypairs is vastly more secure.22:32
qhartmanSuperdoc, http://bodhizazen.net/Tutorials/SSH_security22:32
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Superdocqhartman, Agreed, since this is a test environment as i'm still getting familiar with openstack i was keen to know how it can be done.22:33
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qhartmanSuperdoc, it would be the usual way of reconfiguring ssh to accept password connections22:34
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qhartmanNothing openstack-specific about that portion.22:34
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qhartmanYou can use that same key on multiple machines, I think something just went sideways with your first key22:35
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Superdocok22:35
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Superdocqhartman, i think i had the wrong key on my linux nova compute node22:35
qhartmanSuperdoc, probably22:36
jgriffithqhartman: well that's not surprising22:36
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jgriffithqhartman: what are you using for your perf tests outside of rados bench?22:37
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qhartmanjgriffith, right. What was surprising is the rbd performance. Turns out my baseline assumptions were all wrong. I was running the write portion of rados bench incorrectly.22:38
qhartmanwomp womp22:38
jgriffith:)22:38
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qhartmanso the performance I'm getting is pretty much consistent everywhere. Which makes me sad on one hand because it's kinda crap, but at least it's no longer crap AND a mystery.22:39
jgriffithqhartman: indeed22:39
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jgriffithqhartman: it may not be what you hoped for but it's at least real and consistent22:40
qhartmanyeah22:40
qhartmanIt  looks like I'm going to need to pop for SSDs for my journal22:40
qhartmanThat's almost certainly where I'm losing the performance22:40
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sigint88qhartman: just curious, if i am  considering migrating from a ZFS driven cloud environment to OpenStack which filesystem would you recommend? CEPH or Gluster? Or should i stick with ZFS?  Are there any docs out there?22:51
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Superdocqhartman, later, thanks for helping me, will be back23:11
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qhartmanSuperdoc, Sure thing23:19
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