Thursday, 2014-06-05

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orzelIsotopp:  something like iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o $EXTERNAL_IF -j MASQUERADE /00:00
orzelnope :)00:00
orzelnot said anywhere in the doc00:00
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orzellsoares: what should i use for EXTERNAL_IF ? the bridge ?00:01
lsoaresI'm assuming you want to access an "outside" server, like google.com00:01
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orzelyes, or even my physical gateway00:02
lsoareshold on, your setup might be correct, it's just a matter of configuring your gateway (the host) to forward your stuff outside00:02
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orzelthe compute node has a classical config (dhcp with another computer on my subnet acting as dhcp server / gateway)00:02
lsoaresshow me a pastebin of your ip ad sh and ip ro sh00:02
lsoaresand iptables -L -n -v -t nat for good measure00:03
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lsoaresall three commands on the host00:03
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orzelthat's a lot :)00:03
orzelvnet0 is an openstack vm00:04
Apsulsoares: For reference, you can simplify those a bit. ip a, ip r, iptables -t nat -nvL00:04
orzelvirbr0 /docker0 are irrelevant here i guess00:04
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orzellsoares:  br100 links enp2s0 and vnet000:05
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orzel(and promisc is there, it seems important)00:05
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ApsuAlso, though it's more terse, iptables [-t $table] -S [$chain] or iptables-save -c [-t $table], both provide the same syntax rules are added with as output.00:05
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lsoaresorzel: can you, from a vm, do ping and
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orzeli can ping (host main ip), and (gateway/dhcp server for the vm)00:08
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orzeli can't ping
Apsuorzel: Btw, you can disable the virbr0 bridge and associated iptables rules (which are just noise) with two commands: virsh net-destroy default; virsh net-autostart --disable default00:08
orzelnot anything else behind00:08
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lsoaresinteresting. Please show me the contents of your FORWARD chain in the filter table00:08
orzellsoares: i'm not as familiar with iptables00:09
ApsuMight be useful also to show "sysctl -a | grep forward" just in case a per-interface forwarding flag was disabled even though the global ip_forward flag was enabled.00:09
orzellsoares:  this ?
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lsoaresApsu: ip a and ip r! NICE00:10
Apsuorzel: Did you setup those rules yourself?00:10
orzelApsu, lsoares :
ApsuOh, wait, that's just virbr000:10
ApsuAnd docker000:10
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orzelApsu:  nope00:10
ApsuSo pretty much all noise.00:10
Apsulsoares: "ip l" too :)00:10
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orzelmm.. at least i'll have learnt some ip commands :)00:11
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lsoarescheck if nova-filter-top nova-network-FORWARD and nova-compute-FORWARD are empty. if so, rules 4 and 5 ensure you get your packet through.00:12
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lsoaresyou can also try to do a tcpdump -i virbr0 while trying to ping something from the vm00:13
ApsuYou can also just paste iptables-save -c -t filter, which will help you see the packet counts00:13
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orzellsoares:  this ?
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ApsuNot virbr0, that's the default libvirt network, unrelated to openstack.00:13
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Apsubr100 :)00:13
orzeli did not do those00:13
orzeli swear :)00:13
ApsuI know.00:13
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Apsuorzel: You can disable the virbr0 bridge and associated iptables rules (which are just noise) with two commands: virsh net-destroy default; virsh net-autostart --disable default00:14
orzelit's not .... dangerous, promessed ?00:14
lsoareshm... default policy is still accept, so we're going to need to see those nova-filter, nova-network and nova-compute from the filter table00:14
Apsuorzel: Show me "ip a" and "brctl show"00:14
lsoaresyou pasted it already00:14
lsoaresyea pretty much a blank accept00:15
lsoaresip a is here:
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orzeli can post the whole iptables-save at this point..00:15
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lsoaresno need I got what I needed00:15
lsoaresyour vm ip is ?00:16
Apsuorzel: Which IP range is the VM on, and which IP range is the public access?00:16
orzelnope the vm ip is 0.200:16
lsoaresbecause you only have masquerade for 192.168.122.x00:16
ApsuNo, that's their bridge IP, which means it's the DHCP server00:16
Apsuorzel: Which IP range is the VM on, and which IP range is the public access?00:16
lsoareshe needs masquerade for
orzelvm stuff is 192.168. and my physical network is 10.11.3.*00:16
orzeland yes is the dhcp server00:17
lsoaresright now you only have masquerade for, which is the libvirt default stuff00:17
lsoaresso you can try something like iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s \! -d -j MASQUERADE00:18
ApsuIt's not going to do what you want exactly like this. Your default gateway for your VM is going to be
lsoaresor -d \!, not sure.00:18
ApsuWhich will hit the bridge, and pop into the host's routing table00:18
ApsuPresumably the 10.x gateway is the default route00:19
orzelyes gateway for vm is
ApsuSo it will then get routed back into the bridge interface -- but that won't work.00:19
orzel10.11.3.1 is the physical gateway on my network00:19
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ApsuBecause that's a split-horizon or hairpin routing setup.00:19
orzelouch, you really want to loose me!00:19
ApsuBasically, what you need to do is not have enp2s0 in this bridge, and have the 10.x IP directly on enp2s000:20
lsoares49  2534 ACCEPT     all  --  *      *
lsoaresthis is the problem00:20
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ApsuSo that your VM will go -> (routing) br100 -> host -> enp2s0 -> (routing) upstream gateway00:20
orzelbefore playing with openstack enp2s0 was using dhcp and would got
lsoaresI'm not even sure how you got 49 packets hitting this rule00:20
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Apsuorzel: Did you put enp2s0 in br100 and move the IP or did openstack do it for you?00:21
orzeli think i did00:21
Apsuorzel: Show your nova.conf00:21
orzelwas specified in doc00:21
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ApsuWell, at least the flat_interface and public_interface and other networking parts00:21
ApsuIf you've got sensitive bits in there, you can censor or leave them out00:22
ApsuBecause we can totally fix this :P00:22
orzelApsu:  you mean i would need a bridge with only one interface (vnet0) ?00:22
ApsuYep. And the masquerade iptables rule for traffic leaving enp2s000:22
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ApsuYou can't in normal circumstances route out the same interface you routed in from.00:22
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ApsuWhich is what you're trying to do with br100 here.00:22
ApsuYou can Bridge back into the same port (known as hairpinning), but to route back in requires hairpinning and disabling split-horizon protection00:23
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ApsuWhich is just a bad idea in 99% of cases00:23
ApsuNow, you can DNAT reflect off the same interface, but that happens in prerouting00:24
ApsuWhich is why it works.00:24
ApsuWhat you're attempting to do happens in routing and postrouting, though, which is a no good :)00:24
orzelhere's 'abridged' nova.conf. I removed few passwed (db,rabbit) and removed all comments
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orzelApsu: does the original problem come from the fact that i have only one nic on the host ?00:25
orzelit kinda make it harder, right ?00:25
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ApsuAh yes. FlatDHCPManager. Been a few years now.... but iirc, your public_interface=enp2s0 is the issue. Think you'll need it to be public_interface=br10000:25
ApsuLet me go look it up00:26
orzeli'm surprised by nework_size=25400:26
orzelah, no, ok, "private subnet"00:27
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orzelactually, i would feel more comfortable having back my original setup, with enps0 getting an ip from dhcp00:28
orzelbut all doc say not to assign it any ip, only to the bridge00:28
ApsuTry setting public_interface=br100, and move the 10.x IP off br100 back onto enp2s000:28
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ApsuThen make sure you have an iptables rule in the nat table, postrouting chain, with -o enp2s0 -j MASQUERADE00:29
ApsuI.e., iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING -o enp2s0 -j MASQUERADE00:29
ApsuAfter you modify the nova.conf, remove enp2s0 from br100 (brctl delif br100 enp2s0), and move the IP off br100 and onto enp2s0, restart nova-network00:30
orzelthat means i should add some iptables magic outside from nova ?00:30
Apsuiptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING -o enp2s0 -j MASQUERADE, outside of nova, yes.00:30
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orzeloops. sorry.00:41
orzeli needed to reconfigure my route too, previous was through br100, not working anymore00:42
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orzeland i was preempted by baby crying :)00:42
orzelback to work00:42
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orzelApsu:  i did what you say. nova.conf changed, enp2s0 out of bridge and has an ip on its own, nova-network restarted00:44
orzeland iptable rule added00:44
Apsuorzel: See if you can ping the 10.x on enp2s0 from the VM00:45
ApsuThen the 10.x upstream gateway00:45
orzeli can ping (host) and not (gateway)00:45
orzelas before00:45
orzelit's slightly worse even : from the vm, i can still ping, which is in /etc/resolv.conf00:45
orzelbut i can't actually resolve00:45
ApsuShow me "iptables -t nat -nvL POSTROUTING"00:46
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orzelouch, i can't resolve from my own pc :)00:46
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orzelApsu:  wait, now i can ping google from vm00:47
orzelbut i got each line twice ("dup")00:47
ApsuYou've got promiscuous mode on something. Presumably your bridge.00:47
orzeli still can't ping
orzelthough. weird00:47
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orzelbridge has promiscuous, yes00:47
ApsuYep, disable it00:47
orzelit's asked everywhere00:47
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Apsuip l s dev br100 promisc off00:48
ApsuMake sure it's not on enp2s0 either00:48
orzeli was googling :)00:48
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orzelip a | grep prom -i       -> returns nothing00:49
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orzelping google now perfect00:49
ApsuThere we go.00:49
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orzelit's still weird somehow. i can't ping form the vm00:49
orzeli can from the host00:49
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orzelah, there's some weird route though00:50
ApsuOn the host?00:50
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Apsuorzel: Show me "ip a; ip r; brctl show", now :)00:51
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orzelthe famous one00:51
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orzeler, wait00:52
orzelnova-network shuffled it all no ?00:52
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ApsuApparently it did shuffle it all again.00:53
ApsuThere's another option, with this config, that might work.00:53
ApsuCan try it00:54
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farsonicanyone able to assist with how I access nova API from external hosts00:54
Apsuorzel: Add an iptables postrouting masquerade rule, but this time instead of -o enp2s0, use -m physdev --physdev-out enp2s000:55
farsonicwhen I communicate to my openstack server through an external NAT device I can authenticate to Keystone but the subsequent requests from nova come from the internal address00:55
farsonicwhich isn't routable00:55
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Apsuorzel: i.e., iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING -m physdev --physdev-out enp2s0 -j MASQUERADE00:55
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orzelApsu: i delete the previous one ?00:56
Apsuorzel: You can, doesn't matter, so long as the new rule is above the old one, just to test it out00:56
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orzeldoesn't change much. i can still ping google but not my gateway00:57
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Apsuorzel: Did you set physical_interface=br100 in nova.conf on this node before you restarted nova-network?00:57
orzelApsu: it feels strange to have an iptable. My setup is supposed to be ... common, no ? nova-network should manage to handle it... nope ?00:57
ApsuRather, public_interface=00:58
orzelApsu:  public_interface=br100 yes, before restarting00:58
ApsuWait... I forgot... nova-network lets you specify information about interfaces when you create the network00:58
ApsuUhm... nova network-show $networkname?00:58
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Apsu(network-list to list 'em)00:59
orzel"Woah, you have reached your paste limit of 10 pastes per 24 hours. Either wait a litte or sign up for a free account to get higher limits."01:00
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ApsuThere it is. bridge_interface=enp2s001:01
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orzelthere's also  flat_interface=enp2s001:03
orzelin nova.conf01:03
farsonicok, looks like I need to define public_url01:03
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Apsuorzel: Yeah, I think that needs to be br100 too, to do things a bit differently. But on the other hand... your setup seems to work at present, minus not talking to the gateway. *can* you ping the gateway from the host, even?01:04
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Apsuorzel: It's possible ICMP is just blocked on your gateway :P01:04
orzeli can from the host, yes01:04
orzel(first thing i tried)01:04
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ApsuWhat's sysctl -a | grep call, show? There should be three nf_call_iptables type flags, are they 0 or 1?01:05
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orzelall three are set to '1'01:05
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orzelApsu: pff.. i got another huge problem. I kinda started to config neutron. Didn't go much after declaring the service in keystone01:08
orzelbut now horizon is all fool about network, even though i've removed the service since01:09
orzelouch, i can't connect to horizon anymore01:09
openstackorzel: Error: "#" is not a valid command.01:09
orzelhi bot01:10
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orzelApsu: fixed. the bad bits were stored in the cookies... :/01:36
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orzelapsu : according to
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orzelit's supposed to work with only one nic on compute node01:38
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orzelApsu: i removed the masquerading rules (both -o enp2s0 and -m physdev)01:40
orzeland my vm can still ping01:40
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orzel(google, that is)01:40
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orzelcould it be than only changing the nova.conf:public_interface did it ?01:42
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orzelApsu, lsoares : gotta go. Thanks a lot for your help and your time !01:53
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monotreme_mani'm installing icehouse and am up to testing the glance installation. when i try to do a "glance image-create", it fails with a "2014-06-04 16:09:24.498 3790 WARNING keystone.common.wsgi [-] Authorization failed. The request you have made requires authentication. from" (from the keystone.log). i've checked the glance .conf files (for keystone_authtoken) and they seem correct. any suggestions on what to do next?01:58
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troyaanyone have experience in copy cinde storage service ?02:05
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troyaanyone know about cinder ?03:56
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mdimHi all! I'm trying to follow instructions from to set up Glance. I have Keystone, and during installation of Glance, I've selected Keystone as a caching type04:53
mdimhowever, when I run "glance image-list", I get: "Request returned failure status. Invalid OpenStack Identity credentials."04:54
mdimany clue why?04:54
mdimKeystone works normally04:54
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dexter_morganhi all05:50
dexter_morgani have created two network and each network has an instance05:50
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dexter_morganbut instance is not not able to ping its gateway05:50
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dexter_morgani have installed ciorros os on each instances05:51
dexter_morganbut the are not communicating05:51
dexter_morganplease suggest05:51
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troyaanyone know about cinder ?06:13
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dexter_morgancinder is basically help to create secondary storage06:14
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deepakcsAnyone has any tips on how to troubeshoot when nova boot... gets stuck in 'spawning' state forever ?06:14
deepakcsI am in a devstack setup, and I don't see any errors in n-cpu screen/log06:14
deepakcsIs it possible to get stuck if disk space is low (I have around 4.5G free)06:15
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deepakcstroya, Cinder is block storage as a service component of openstack. Check for more details06:16
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deepakcstroya, would be good place to begin with too06:17
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troyadeepakcs: is it need specify partition to create it ?06:17
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troyais possible to create it with partioion which same with system ?06:18
deepakcstroya, it depends on what storage backend (LVM is default) u want to use with cinder. You can specify the backend using /etc/cinder/cinder.conf file.06:19
deepakcstroya, you don't create Cinder, you use it, with the different storage backends it supports06:19
troyayes, i want to use LVM06:19
troyaso i need different partioion. not same on system partiotion, right ?06:19
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dexter_morganinstances can not ping their gateway ip?? please help06:21
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troyadeepakcs: is in cinder also store vm and data inside it ?06:25
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deepakcstroya, per openstack rules, cinder volumes is used to store data. VM image is taken from glance service06:26
troyai mean instance06:26
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troyais if i created instance, then it will store on cinder incude the data inside instance too ?06:27
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yiipiany idea how to solve problem with dnsmasq on debian 7 and havana ? cannot read /var/lib/neutron/dhcp/...06:43
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mischief_was it a bad idea to upgrade from ubuntu 12.04 lts server to 14.04 before upgrading openstack havana?07:33
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halberthey, anyone up?  I've been messing with this stupid neutron-server error for over a week07:41
halbertneutron.plugins.ml2.managers [req-836c4246-ca1a-44d2-8e95-06fad72da1ef None] Failed to bind port b88fede0-43ac-45a8-9ffc-2fafe02f49f4 on host nova0307:41
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halbertI've checked and rechecked and rechecked the install guide and this is really frigging frustrating07:41
halbertI need this lab up or I can't continue with my work, anyone?07:42
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halbertIs there a bug or some additional configs that I have to be aware of ?07:42
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halbertDoes the official install guide actually work?07:42
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Thumper650Greets all, I was wondering which of the openstack #'s would be the best place to discus a slightly unconventional console configuration08:06
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odyssey4mehalbert - generally speaking, I think so - I haven't personally done any ml2 implementations. My last implementation from the docs was on Grizzly.08:06
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odyssey4mehalbert - I take it that you have the neutron agent on your compute node? perhaps you can pastein the full trace?08:07
odyssey4meThumper650 - this is the usage channel, so if it's a usage/operations discussion, then this would be the right channel.08:07
odyssey4meie this would be a good starting point - we can always refer you elsewhere08:08
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troyais possible to move my cinder to another openstack machine ?08:09
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odyssey4metroya - do you mean the cinder service? or do you mean something else?08:10
troyayes, cinder service08:10
troyais it possible to move to another openstack machine ?08:10
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Thumper650I'm working on rolling out a redunant OS environemnt with most services being reachable via a HA'd floating IP address and a loadbalancer. Pretty much everything is working well, but I'm fighting with Console. If I 'down' one track of the HA (controller-01 and compute-01) I can get console just fine, but if I enable all controllers  and compute nodes, console breaks, probably because I've set novncproxy_base_url to a balanced virtual IP.08:11
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odyssey4metroya - you can run multiple cinder services on multiple servers, each service is stateless. The only trouble may be with currently mounted volumes. I'm not sure if you can just switch off the previous service without affecting currently mounted volumes.08:11
odyssey4meI think that may be something to determine on a driver by driver basis.08:12
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odyssey4meThumper650 - if you have multiple nova-consoleauth services running, then the scheduler allocates them on a round robin basis... resulting in a successful connection once for every n agents08:13
odyssey4meSo if you have two agents, you may find that you're successfully connecting every two attempts?08:13
troyaodyssey4me: is not possible to just a copy ? not replicate08:14
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odyssey4meThe way to get it successful every time is to ensure that you implement memcached on the hosts running nova-consoleauth, and to configure nova-consoleauth to refer to all instances of memcached. This way the tokens are referrable on all of them.08:14
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odyssey4meThumper650 - another way is to disable the service through the cli/API on the consoleauth agents you're not using at the time (ie implement active/passive HA). You can then script the enable/disable when the VIP transitions.08:16
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odyssey4metroya - you can run as many cinder-api/cinder-volume processes as you want, and the config for cinder-volume would be for each back-end. If the back-end interacts with a storage API (eg: NetApp/IBM/etc) then instance volume connections shouldn't be interrupted if one of the cinder-volume services go down.08:19
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odyssey4me(this is because the actual connection from the hypervisor goes directly to the storage, cinder-volume simply facilitates it)08:20
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odyssey4metroya - a pretty good overview of the above is here:
Thumper650Thanks Od, will get back to you with how it goes08:22
odyssey4me(dunno if that helps)08:22
odyssey4meThumper650 - sure, no problem. Hope that helps.08:23
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troyaodyssey4me: so i can't do backup and restore, right ? just can replicate08:24
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odyssey4metroya - if by replicate you mean run multiple agents, that's an option. You can backup/restore too if you don't want to do an HA implementation.08:25
odyssey4me(why choose when you can do both?)08:26
troyacod: i just want to backup/restore08:26
troyaany reference for that ?08:26
odyssey4metroya - alright. reference in terms of what's important to backup?08:26
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troyajust reference about step by step to do that08:27
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troyabut in my case, i backup on openstack on machine1, then can i restore to openstack on machine2  ?08:28
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odyssey4metroya - step by step, not really. The Operations Guide gives you guidance, but step-by-step would be too deployment specific.08:28
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odyssey4meOps Docs:
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odyssey4metroya - you don't really need to back things up, except the configs, logs and /var/lib/cinder.... to restore, simply implement the packages, restore the configs and /var/lib/cinder, then start the service08:30
odyssey4methat's covered in general in the docs08:30
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odyssey4menote that this is just the service backup/restore - not instance/volume data backup/restore08:31
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troyais possible to backup and restore volume data ?08:34
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odyssey4metroya - sure, you can use any standard backup tooling and method for that08:41
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odyssey4meyou can either do it from inside the instances, or you can do it on the back-end if your block storage subsystem supports a method to do so08:41
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tvbhi how can I see the actual quota of my tenant?09:07
tvbram quota09:08
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tvbquota-show shows me a number which does not add up to the actual quota for all the instances combined.09:08
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halbertodyssey4me: I can pastebin the full debug output, do you want the neutron-agent or do you want the nova-compute ?  I have the debug output but I don't think that's exactly what you want09:11
odyssey4mehalbert - do both, try to capture the time from launching the instance through to the error for both agents09:12
halbertI can do that.09:12
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halbertodyssey4me: nova debug logs:
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halbertneutron server debug logs09:22
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tvbit seems I am having an issue with 'reserved' ram quota_usage. what does the reserved quota_usage mean?09:27
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halbertodyssey4me: sorry about the spam, this is a more complete set:09:37
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halbert neutron-server log09:37
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halbert nova-compute log09:37
halbert neutron-agent log09:38
halbertjust reams and reams of this crap09:38
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odyssey4mehalbert - will check it now, just finishing something else up09:42
halbertthanks man09:42
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halberttvb: you said your resources defined and used don't add up, what do you mean?09:45
Ange7hey all09:45
halbertdo you have vms using more or less than what you thought you could ?09:45
tvbhalbert: so I am getting this error09:45
tvbERROR: Quota exceeded for ram: Requested 64512, but already used 139264 of 153600 ram (HTTP 413) (Request-ID: req-03b0d044-040b-4f20-87fb-5a046a31bd25)09:45
Ange7someone can explain how type of request that i need to do to store one picture with swift ?09:46
tvbwhen I calculate the actual usage of my instances it does not add up09:46
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halbertahhh okay.  how far are you short ?09:46
tvbI am using 9126 mb09:47
tvbin real09:47
mAniAk-_-Ange7: you put your fingers on the keyboard and push them down09:47
tvbbut found the following09:47
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halbertAnge7: assuming you have your openstack credentials, you can just check source your openstackrc file, do a swift stat, and see if you can log in09:47
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tvbwhen you add up the in-usage and reserved column it will give you the 139264 value.09:48
tvbso where does the reserved values are coming from?09:48
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halbertAnge7: once you can do that, you should refer to here as your reference for pushing and pulling to swift via the swift cli tool:
halbertaight tvb, I'll check09:48
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Ange7thank halbert09:49
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djalilsomeone can help me09:49
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odyssey4mehalbert - odd, I don't see anything in the nova log instructing the actual build... all I see is the one ERROR log line indicating that the instance disappeared before it finished building09:50
djalili got a problem on rabbitmq09:50
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odyssey4medjalil - ask your question, it generally gets no response if you ask if you can ask :)09:50
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odyssey4mehalbert - just a question though, which ml2 plugin are you using? openvswitch?09:51
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halbertodyssey4me: it errors out as it tries to spawn the build, and it errors consistently when it asks for the network09:51
halbertyeah man09:51
halbertI use openvswitch...09:51
odyssey4meand you have nova.conf configured to tell it to use neutron?09:52
halbertyeah odyssey4me09:52
halbertI can paste you the config files if you want.09:52
halbert /g09:52
djalili'm installing openstack ice single node on debian without debconf and until a configure nova rabbitmq was working but now when i try to do nova list th server responding connection refused09:52
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halberttvb: I'm perplexed.  I've never seen that shit before in grizzly or in folsom09:53
halbertI'm looking at the api page for the reserved quotas here:
tvbhalbert: I am using icehouse09:54
halberttvb: I have a fresh but borked icehouse install09:54
halbertwhich table is this at ?09:55
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farsonicevening all09:55
tvbmysql> select * from quota_usages where project_id = 'xxx' and resource = 'ram';09:55
farsonicwondering if anyone can help me with API access09:56
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farsonicspecifically looking to be able to access my openstack server from the local LAN and also from an external public IP address through NAT09:56
odyssey4medjalil - you'll need to be clearer. I don't understand the situation and the problem.09:57
farsonicthe problem is, if I reconfigure the public_url etc it breaks all my internal LAN access09:57
halberttvb: all my reserved as 0s09:57
halberthave you been doing migrations from host to host ?09:57
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tvbhalbert: I have had 2 resizes stuck in resize_prep state which eventually were being manually terminated by me.09:58
odyssey4mefarsonic - you could use a split horizon dns to solve that. public endpoints are configured with DNS names, external DNS points to the pubilc IP and internal DNS points to the private IP09:58
tvbguess, those could be causing the issue.09:58
odyssey4mefarsonic - or you could use a reverse proxy which rewrites the endpoint's for the public exposure09:58
halberttvb: were you resizing them to be larger ?09:59
tvblarger, yes.09:59
odyssey4mefarsonic - or you could configure all the services to use the internal endpoints only, and then the public endpoints can be configured to have the public addresses09:59
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halberttvb: when you resize, what you are actually doing is a migration.  Consider the reservation for clearing a space for you to migrate to, and if your quotas weren't roomy enough, then you couldn't migrate10:00
farsonicok, so I have an internal IP address of (for example)10:00
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farsonicand a public Ip address of (for example)10:00
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halbertin this case, you borked the migrate in a manner where the middle ware never went back to the table to clear up the mess10:00
halbertso you have stuff reserved, for nothing10:00
tvbhalbert: I do think the quota's were roomy enough.10:00
farsonicso, reconfigure everthing for a hostname....10:00
halbertwell, what did you opt to resize to?10:00
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farsonicconfigure external DNS and internal DNS or static host entires?10:01
farsonicI've reconfigured public endpoints (public_url) to be the public address, but it totally broke internal access10:01
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farsonicnot sure if that is correct10:01
halbertIt's 5 in the morning over here, and it's been a terribly long night tvb so forgive me if I am not understanding you properly.10:02
tvbhalbert: no worries. go to bed then.10:02
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tvbhalbert: if I run quota-show10:03
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tvbit will show me the current quota of RAM in mb's right?10:03
halbertI believe so.10:03
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tvbhmm so when it says 153600 it would mean I have a quota of 153GB?10:03
halbertI think the unit is in ram10:04
farsonichalbert - I'm updating the public/admin/internal URL's directly in the mysql DB10:04
farsonicshoudl I be doing this some other way10:04
halbertfarsonic: golly NO10:04
farsonicdifficult to find good references to how to this10:04
halbertuse keystone endpoint-related commands10:04
farsonicso, just chante the public_url to a DNS entry then?10:05
halbertYou could do it in mysql, I think it's normally faster if you know exactly what you are doing, but you can associate more than one endpoint to a service10:05
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halbertkeystone endpoint-create the new one and blow away the old one after you are done by keystone endpoint-delete is also a perfectly appropriate way10:06
farsonicI have all the mysql commands all ready to go…..but I'm still learning here10:06
farsoniclast time I created a new one it basically locked me out10:06
farsonicas I had two overlapping entries10:06
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farsonicso, should I just change the public_url entry to a public DNS nam10:07
halberttvb: yeah, the ram unit seems to be in megs10:07
tvbhalbert: ok. So I have a quota of 153GB10:08
tvbdid an resize to a flavor of 64GB.10:08
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tvbtwo times10:08
halbertI think that's what it says...10:08
halbertAhh hah10:08
halbertso that's 128 declared10:08
halbertand you had 25 left10:08
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tvbit does not release the reserved mem when you terminate an instance which has state resize_prep10:09
halbertyeah it does that.10:09
halbertyou're gonna find that stopping most actions midway manually might leave the tables in a funky state10:10
halbertlike snapshotting10:10
tvbwouldn't this be a bug?10:10
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halbertwell, I consider it a feature if you enjoy punching yourself in the nuts10:10
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halbertBut I'm just a user of free shit, so there needs to be some sort of 'garbage collection', and I'm not smart enough to implement it.10:11
halbertgzuz look at that grammar10:11
halbertI gotta bounce, odyssey4me, who is a good point of contact in the morning where I can plead for someone to go over my neutron configs10:12
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tvbhalbert: thanks.10:12
halberttvb: np10:12
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odyssey4mefarsonic - yeah, use the keystone cli to change the public endpoint to the dns name that resolves both externally and internally - just ensure that internal and external resolution go to different IP's and that the services are listening on both IP's (or use a NAT from the public to the internal)10:14
farsonicyep, using NAT for external access10:14
odyssey4mehalbert - take a break, then work back through the installation steps again to confirm your nova and neutron configs on your controllers and computes10:14
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odyssey4mehalbert - otherwise, not sure... I've used config mgmt tooling (Chef) to do my configs for ages, doing it manually is the 'hard way' ;)10:15
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odyssey4mefarsonic - you could use hosts entries for the internal resolution, yeah10:16
halbertaight, I'll come back...  this is so hilarious.  I got a full ceph install going, quad bond nics going and everything except for this took me 2 days.  I've been stuck with the vm spawning and erroring out for over a week.  I'm not sure what the fuck I'm doing wrong :)10:16
halbertgood night10:16
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farsonicsee ya10:17
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odyssey4mefarsonic - generally, with grizzly or above, you don't need to dig in the DB to change/fix things.... rather use the cli tools to enact changes10:18
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farsonicI need a crash course on this stuff10:18
farsonicthis is running grizzly10:18
farsonicI'll work out the corresponding changes using the keystone app now10:19
odyssey4mefarsonic - the safest would be to register the new endpoints, confirm they're working, then remove the old ones10:20
farsonicwill do10:20
odyssey4meyou can also actually just have two sets of endpoints :)10:20
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farsonicI tried that and it ended up locking me out of logging in to the system10:21
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farsonicwell, authenticating against keystone10:22
farsonicbut, I'm learning10:22
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farsonicI'm sure your right as thats the first thing I tried - as it looked obvious10:22
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odyssey4mefarsonic - if you have two endpoints for each service you may need to specify which one you want to use when you auth...10:22
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odyssey4mewhen changing the endpoints you can choose to use the service token and the service endpoint, that'll allow you to speak through the back-end10:23
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fritzroy15hello, I'm running into the "Could not find service or region in service catalog". I've set the region to RegionOne, and here is my keystone service-list, endpoint-list and nova.conf:
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fritzroy15can anyone provide a pointer in the right direction? :)10:44
fritzroy15anand_ts you around? :D10:45
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anand_tsfritzroy15, hello, yes10:46
fritzroy15anand_ts can you cast your wise gaze into what my newbishness is doing wrong? ^_^10:47
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anand_tsfritzroy15: what issue you are facing exactly?10:50
fritzroy15anand_ts in my nova.log file I get Could not find service or region in service catalog10:51
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|splat|fixed my novnc issue. had to add iptables rules to allow the nodes to talk over their internal subnet.12:51
winkHey, can I just add a logical volume for something else to the cinder-volumes VG or will cinder tamper with it?12:51
|splat|I used packstack to install which only used the headnode external IP12:51
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larskswink: I think you should be able to add an lv to the cinder vg without ill effect.12:52
larsks|splat|: yay!12:52
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winklarsks: thanks.12:56
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Infitialiswhat kind of monitoring tools do you guys use for Openstack?12:59
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|splat|hmm. fedora, centos, and cirros have no issue using both the internal network and external network. but the windows vm i made with cloudbase-init seems to only be working on the internal network. and strangely, i can't ping it using ip netns13:08
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|splat|by external i mean a floating ip13:08
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kaizerHi, does anyone knows if its legal or not to run OSX VM on non Apple machines?  My first tought would be to say its not legal, but im not sure..13:19
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meylorwhen starting an instance; is there a way to pass in the hostname info other than through a user-data script?13:20
mat128ianal, but iirc you could legally run OSX vms on Apple machines but not anywhere else.13:20
mat128meylor: cloudinit should take the instance name and set it as your hostname13:20
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meylormat128: my hostname is being set as the {instance_name}.{region_name}13:21
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meylorso the only option is to set the region_name to be the domain?13:21
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mat128meylor: I usually spin up vms with a fqdn such as web1.example.com13:22
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mat128and this gets set as my hostname13:22
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mat128what are you using to configure cloudinit? metadata api? config drive?13:22
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meylormetadata api i believe13:22
mat128I suggest looking at what the data is13:23
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mat128try a curl to
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kaizermat128: so for this post, it would be only possible to do it on Apple machine right?13:26
nschroederHello, i am new to openstack and triing a setup following the debian install guide. I am at a point where I can run my first vm. When i boot a vm it goes to error state with "The request you have made requires authentication.". I think this comes from compute node. Is there a way to track down my mistake? To my knowlege I entered a correct keystone account for nova compute.13:26
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georgem2nschroeder:check the keystone logs, if the error is caused by failed authentication you should see it in there13:30
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nschroedergeorgem2: Thank you for answering. Yes I can see it in the keystone logs: "Authorization failed. The request you have made requires authentication. from". But it is not clear to me which user is used (I think the one in /etc/nova/nova.conf on the compute node). Also I do not know what to do to allow the user the request.13:33
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georgem2nschroeder:that sounds to me more like a mysql auth error13:42
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georgem2nschroeder:make sure the mysql user you created for keystone is allowed to connect to mysql from that IP address13:42
|splat|do i need to do anything special to get windows to recognize the floating ip?13:43
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nschroedergeorgem2: I am pretty sure that works. I connected to the mysql and can see a database named kexstone. Also I can create new users without problems13:44
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georgem2nschroeder:try to connect to mysql as user keystone from the keystone node13:44
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nschroedergeorgem2: ok thank you I will check that13:45
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nschroedergeorgem2: I checked it, the db credentials from keystone are correct. I think this can not be the problem because I can add new users to keystone and all other authentification works fine.13:50
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georgem2nschroeder:ok, then enable debug and verbose in nova.conf on the compute node and keystone.conf on the controller and try again, then paste the logs in pastebin13:51
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nschroedergeorgem2: I think my nova admin_user or admin_tenant_name has no right to execute the the stuff, keystone denies that. But I am not sure how to allow this operation. How can I allow nova user to start vms? Do I have to add him to the admin role?13:51
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nschroedergeorgem2: ok I will do that13:52
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giorgisiptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE13:57
giorgishas to be inserted every time I start an instance! Any ideas how to resolve this?13:57
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georgem2nschroeder:the installation doc should mention that you have to create a user for nova that has the admin role in the "services" tenant (step 8 in here
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rsmittyhi all - quick question. I hot-attached a second nic to a guest instance using nova interface-attach. now they are both visible, both have IPs, but I can't SSH into the instance from both interfaces, only the second one works14:15
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rsmittyboth nics are on the same network btw14:15
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|splat|giorgis: service iptables save14:17
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giorgissplat it doesn't make any difference14:18
giorgisI have even put it in the rc.local file14:19
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giorgisbut every time I start an instance I have to put it again14:19
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nschroedergeorgem2: I think my problem is that nova has not the admin role, please have a look:   But I did the user-role-add you mentioned...14:19
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|splat|giorgis: you have to reinsert that on the baremetal?14:19
giorgissplat: yes!14:19
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|splat|sounds to me like it's getting inserted at the bottom of the iptables chain and every time you start a new instance they insert rules above it14:20
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dmitrymersmitty: while poking around wiki I’ve stumbled upon the following blueprint:
|splat|manually edit /etc/sysconfig/iptables, add your line to the top of the chain, restart iptables?14:21
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_nicktoken_flush should work with keystone-manage in havana, correct?14:21
_nickif so, anyone know why i'm seeing a NotImplemented exception?14:21
giorgissplat: I have done that!14:21
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giorgissplat: I have even put it14:21
giorgisin the /etc/rc.local file14:21
dmitrymersmitty: so I guess the answer is, currently it is not possible to have to nics in a single net for a single VM14:21
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rsmittyhmm, okay weird. guess I'll have to figure something else out for now. Thanks for the help!14:22
|splat|then i'm out of ideas. sorry.14:22
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giorgissplat: thanks for your help14:23
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georgem2nschroeder:the role assignment looks good, anything useful in the keystone logs with debug enabled?14:23
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georgem2giorgis:I think you mentioned that you're running nova-network with icehouse...not a very well tested combination probably14:24
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giorgisgeorgem2: I am  back to havana it has the same behavior14:25
georgem2giorgis: but you said that Havana was working fine14:25
giorgisgeorgem2: In a previous installation of Havana14:25
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giorgisnow I have the latest Havana and latest CentOS release (in terms of kernel etc.)14:26
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|splat|giorgis: have you tried doing the initial install using RDO since you are on centos?14:26
nschroedergeorgem2: sorry I am such a noob. For some reason the output did not change but I think I have set the logging level to debug, here is my /etc/keystone/logging.conf :
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georgem2nschroeder:enable debug in keystone.conf and restart the keystone service14:29
giorgissplat: no! I haven't...but why this would make any difference?14:29
nschroedergeorgem2: You said my role assignment looks good. Just to clarify: I am using the nova user and service tenant _not_ admin. Does he really have the rights? I think my user-role-list (see implies that only the user with id ...b0a7 has admin role. As far as I understand nova user has no role ...14:30
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georgem2nschroeder: you have to run "keystone user-role-list --user XX --tenant XXX" as admin if you want to see role assignments for other users, by default it shows your own user's roles14:31
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georgem2giorgis:it's been  a few release since I deployed with nova-network, but no manual iptables changes should be required, so it's very possible is a configuration issue somewhere14:33
giorgisgeorgem2: I am trying to resolve this with wireshark now14:33
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giorgiswhat I am seeing is that if I don't put the NAT rule then the source IP is the 192.* which is the internal IP of the FlatDHCP bridge interface14:34
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giorgiswhen I insert the rule the source IP is getting to be 153.* (an external IP address of the external ethernet)14:34
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giorgisso my guess is that without that rule the packets are not routed from the 192.* internal to the 153.* external nic14:35
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giorgisI would go with neutron but I need auto assign of floating IPs when an instance is started14:36
_nickcan anyone shed any light on why i'm seeing a NotImplemented error with keystone-manage token_flush on havana?14:36
giorgissomething that to my knowledge is still a blueprint for neutron14:36
giorgisam I right?14:36
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djalilhy everybody i have a little question with openstack ice house there is no need of multiple rabbitmq account ?14:36
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nschroedergeorgem2: ah ok thank you. I managed to enable debug. Here is the keystone output after a nova delete $instancename: I think i found the problem on my own: The error is my neutron user settings. There is no user called neutron. I will create one and tell you if it works ....14:37
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djalilhy everybody i have a little question with openstack ice house there is no need of multiple rabbitmq account ?14:38
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georgem2giorgis:I don't think there is auto assign floating IPs in Neutron now, but maybe you can change the way you do things to fit in the more mainstream Openstack networking options14:41
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georgem2nschroeder:cool, I guess you rushed to start the first instance before setting up all components :)14:41
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giorgisgeorgem2: I am afraid that this is not an option at the moment!  I would like to keep in pace with the recent developments14:42
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giorgisbut not right now...and I am still wondering why the Havana version is not working either :(14:42
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georgem2rsmitty: about the second NICs connected to the same subnet, check the routing table inside the instance14:43
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rsmittygeorgem2 - yeah, I think that's what's happening. default gw is using the eth1 interface (the one I can SSH into). So it seems like maybe I'm not getting traffic back when I try to SSH into eth0?14:44
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rsmittythat may be okay. I can just set the gateway to the eth0 interface in its ifcfg file.14:46
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georgem2rsmitty:you have a default gw set for the subnet in the dhcp settings of the subnet, so the second interface will win14:47
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georgem2djalil:there is no need for multiple rabbitmq accounts, but you can create them for security purposes14:48
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rsmittyah bummer. okay thanks14:48
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giorgisgeorgem2 + splat: It seems that without that rule the packets are not going from the flat dhcp interface to the external interface14:56
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giorgisany reason why this might be blocked??14:56
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nschroedergeorgem2: Thank you very much, the error is gone now. I learned a lot today, so really thanks.15:02
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drankis_offHello. Where I can find list of available keys for commands like "cinder type-key" or "cinder qos-key"?15:05
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georgem2giorgis:I don't know, but maybe larsks can help :)15:10
larsksgeorgem2: giorgis: help with what now?15:11
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giorgishi larsks!15:11
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giorgisI have a very weird problem! My instances cannot get internet access unless I put the iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE  rule15:11
giorgisthe problem is that this is needed every time an instance is started15:12
larsksgiorgis: is eth1 part of your external bridge?15:12
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giorgislarsks: eth1 is the external interface (no bridge)15:12
giorgiseth0 is the internal bridged with br10015:12
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larsksgiorgis: oh, you're using nova-network.  I'm much less familar with that; I've been working primarily with neutron.15:13
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larsksYou shouldn't need to add that rule every time an instance is started -- is it disappearing when you start a new instance?15:13
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giorgislarsks: yes it's nova :( I wish neutron had the auto-assing ip functionality :)15:13
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giorgislarsks: is going below the new rules in the nat tables15:14
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georgem2giorgis: I grepped for MASQUERADE in a centos with the openstack-nova-network rpm installed, and the only mention I found is in /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/packstack/puppet/templates/provision.pp15:15
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georgem2giorgis: and it looks like the puppet manifest used by packstack actually adds that rule15:15
giorgislarsks: I have tried putting it in the top of /etc/sysconfig/iptables15:15
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giorgislarsks: and also in the /etc/rc.local  but nothing worked :(15:15
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larsksgiorgis: so when that rule is, say, the first rule in the POSTROUTING chain, what happens when you create a new instance?15:16
giorgislarsks: both the old and the new instance don't have external network connectivity until I re-insert it15:16
larsksgiorgis: Can you show me what your POSTROUTING chain looks like (a) after booting a new instance but before fixing things and (b) after fixing things?15:17
giorgisjust give me a second15:17
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giorgisany idea how to paste the lines one below the other directly here?15:18
giorgisChain POSTROUTING (policy ACCEPT)15:19
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giorgistarget     prot opt source               destination15:19
giorgisnova-compute-POSTROUTING  all  --  anywhere             anywhere15:19
giorgisnova-network-POSTROUTING  all  --  anywhere             anywhere15:19
larsksgiorgis: please use pastebin or similar. don't paste in channel!15:19
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giorgisthought about that...15:19
giorgisdoing it right now...15:19
giorgissorry ...15:19
larsksYou could: iptables -t nat -S | curl -s -T- chunk.io15:19
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giorgislarsks: with these rules right now the cirros instance doesn't have internet access15:21
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giorgislarsks: should I put my rule and paste the new rules again?15:22
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larsksgiorgis: What ip range are your instances using?15:22
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larsksgiorgis: there is already a NAT rule for traffic going out eth1:15:23
giorgislarsks: for the internal or external net?15:23
larsksgiorgis: Both, I guess, just to be sure...15:23
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giorgislarsks: the rule there is because it's now in the /etc/sysconfig/iptables15:23
giorgisso it comes up with the machine15:23
giorgisthe machine has an external interface15:24
giorgisat a subnet15:24
giorgisan internal at
giorgisand the bridged network is
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larsksgiorgis: Okay, so it looks like the existing nat rule should do the right thing?15:25
larsks-A nova-network-snat -s -o eth1 -j SNAT --to-source
larsksThis is called from POSTROUTING -> nova-bostrouting-bottom -> nova-network-snat15:25
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larsksThat will SNAT any traffic out eth1 from to
larsksIs that not doing what you expect?15:25
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giorgislarsks: it's not doing it right now15:26
giorgisI have to re-insert it15:26
giorgisshould I do it to check it ?15:26
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larsksgiorgis: I'm having a hard time following you...the rule seems to be there, and it looks correct.  Is it (a) not triggering (packet count is not increasing) or (b) is it triggering but apparently not doing the right thing?15:27
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giorgislarsks: sorry for confusing you!15:28
giorgisfrom my compute node15:28
giorgisI can ssh to the cirros instance15:28
giorgisssh cirros@
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giorgiswhen I am in the cirros instance15:28
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giorgisI cannot PING anything outside the compute node15:29
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giorgisping compute node's public IP is working15:29
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giorgisbut nothing beyond that15:29
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giorgisleaving the instance running15:29
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larsksgiorgis: Right.  So, if you start a "ping" in the instance to something outside the compute node, and then run "tcpdump -n -i eth1 icmp", do you see the icmp traffic? If so, what does the source address look like?15:30
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giorgisand putting the rule again (it goes on top of the chain) and I can ping from the VM15:30
giorgisthe source if I remember correctly is 192.*15:30
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larsksgiorgis: ...which is what you want, right? Because your host's address is  Is that correct?15:31
giorgisyes! the internal15:31
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giorgisbut is not routed to the external15:31
larsksOn which interface is the "external" address?15:31
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larsksAh, okay.15:33
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larsksgiorgis: what is public_interface in your nova.conf?15:34
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larsksgiorgis: Is my_ip set to your internal or external address?15:36
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larsksgiorgis: if you change it to your external address and restart your nova services, what do the iptables rules look like?15:36
giorgislarsks: let me do it15:37
TeduardoIs there a seperate project (other than Nova) for HA/automatically migrating VMs with disks on reliable storage from a failed hypervisor to an available hypervisor? or is the OpenStack HA mechanism focused more on having many many instances with the same application and using load balancing to ensure availablity of that application?15:37
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kbringardcloud arch in general is more geared toward horizontal scale-out for HA of applications15:38
larsksTeduardo: mostly the latter, although Heat autoscaling groups may also help out.15:38
odyssey4me_Teduardo - there have been some code bits, but nothing has firmed up yet.15:38
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giorgislarsks: this is the new15:39
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larsksgiorgis: So that SNAT rule now looks like it should do the right thing.  Do you see any different behavior from inside the instance?15:39
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larsksThat is: -A nova-network-snat -s -o eth1 -j SNAT --to-source
larsksThat should SNAT any traffic going out eth1 from to your external ip address.15:40
giorgislarsks: YES!!! It can ping!!!!15:40
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larsksgiorgis: Awesome.15:40
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giorgislarsks: so do I have to put that rule every time??15:40
giorgislarsks: I mean should I leave it in the iptables?15:41
larsksgiorgis: No, that rule is maintained by nova network.15:41
larsksgiorgis: It was already working; you just had my_ip set incorrectly for what you want to do.15:41
TeduardoSo assuming that someone wanted to create a horizontal scale out (which is different than VM HA) scenario in Openstack where each hypervisor had an instance with the same application how can you tell the scheduler that is what you are doing so that it doesn't put all of the VMs on a single hypervisor? It doesn't look like in Horizon a tenant has visibility to which HVs his instances exist15:41
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giorgislarsks: I have another installation15:41
giorgiswith the same settings15:42
giorgisand it's working...15:42
larsksTeduardo: Possibly affinity filters would help with that:
giorgisnot really knowing whey...15:42
Teduardolarsks: and that is something a user can do in horizon while creating their instances?15:42
giorgislarsks: so should I put under my ip always the external IP ?15:42
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larsksTeduardo: ...maybe?  It's not something I've actually tried.15:43
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giorgislarsks: and does the same apply to vncserver_proxyclient_address??15:43
larsksgiorgis: I believe you should have my_ip set to whatever address you want to be used in that SNAT rule.  I'm not sure what other implications there are in that setting.15:43
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larsksI don't think you need to change vncserver_proxyclient_address.15:44
giorgislarsks: OK! I am removing this rule from the iptables configuration file and let's check what is going to happen15:44
odyssey4meTeduardo - no, HV visibility is not appropriate for cloud. The way to do that is with Affinity Groups and the appropriate scheduler filter15:44
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juesusing nova network flat manager can i expose the virtual machines direct access using public ip address's not using a NAT15:57
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lrrI have an issue where openstack thinks there is an instance, but it cannot find it on the hypervisor, and I cannot delete it16:17
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lrrthe log says "Found 1 in the database and 0 on the hypervisor."16:17
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lrrhow can i remove that instance?16:17
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juesusing nova network flat manager can i expose the virtual machines direct access using public ip address's not using a NAT16:19
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magicrobotmonkeylet's say half my compute nodes have ssds and the other half dont. Is it possible to prefer one or the other when starting an instance?16:23
giorgislarsks + gerogem2 : thanks a lot for your help16:23
giorgisbut it appears that after I have changed my_ip I cannot start a new instance16:23
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giorgisI cannot create and boot16:25
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TobyFlendersontrying to boot my first instance.  getting an error 500 MessagingTimeout from nova-api when POSTing to /v2/##tenant uuid##/servers... not sure where to go from here.16:44
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larsksgiorgis: what do you see in your nova logs when you try to boot an instance?  Are instances failing to boot with an error or getting stuck spawning?17:07
larsksTobyFlenderson: First stop: your nova logs, probably in /var/log/nova.17:08
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giorgislarsks: I think I have managed to locate the problem...17:08
giorgislarsks: It was a two nodes network and the controller node was having the internal IP as my_ip17:09
choirboyis this an appropriate place to ask operator questions? I have a question about ethernet vs. infiniband for tenant networking17:09
giorgislarsks: Now I am able to boot properly17:09
larskschoirboy: this is an appropriate place, but kashyap's suggestion re: the openstack-operators mailing list will probably get you better answers.17:09
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giorgislarsks + georgem2 : Thank you very much for all your help!!!!17:10
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giorgislarsks + georgem2 : very much appreciated!!!17:10
choirboyyeah, just subscribed, but was hoping for a quicker answer... I'm building my answer file17:10
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larskschoirboy: Intuitively, I would say that inifiniband makes a perfectly fine choice for tenant networking, if you expect your instances to be driving a lot of traffic.  It would be even better for storage connectivity.  Maybe both?17:11
choirboylarsks: the root of my questions is really ignorance of how much traffic is expected to go over which network...17:11
choirboyI *assume* that the tenant networks would carry a fair amount of traffic, but I could certainly be wrong since this is my first time building this17:12
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larskschoirboy: A question only you can answer!  "tenant networks" carry all the network traffic going to and from your instances.  So if you're running a popular website, that may be a lot of traffic.  If you're just running compute jobs, it might be close to zero.17:12
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choirboyheh - fair point. Right now, this is really just my home network... but I'm trying to make sure I build it the "right way" so that when I do it for real I do it right.17:13
larskschoirboy: The thing is, "doing it right" means different things for different deployments.17:13
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choirboyof course.17:13
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larsksE.g., if you expect your users to be running memory and storage intensive jobs, you're going to to make different decisions than if you expect everyone to be running externally available web services.17:14
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choirboyreally, trying to make sure I understand some of the terminology...17:14
choirboylarsks: that makes sense17:14
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TobyFlendersonlarsks: sure, I have been checking all of the nova logs, but I'm not finding anything useful besides the 500 error in nova-api.log17:15
larsksTobyFlenderson: Can you pastebin the error (and any traceback leading up to it)?17:15
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larsksTobyFlenderson: Also, other than booting instances, do other things seem to work correctly?  uploading/listing images, creating/listing volumes, etc.17:16
choirboygiven that I want one node to run management services and three compute nodes, the nova conductor service should run on that management node, right?17:16
larskschoirboy: That's correct.17:16
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larsksGenerally, the only thing running on "compute" nodes is nova-compute (and potentially something like neutron-openvswitch-agent).17:17
choirboycool... so when I'm telling packstack to configure it, I should define the ip address which is on the management network, correct?17:17
TobyFlendersonlarsks: sure, I'll pastebin the trace.  everything else seems to be working, from what I can tell so far.17:17
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larskschoirboy: Define *which* ip address?17:17
choirboysorry, in the packstack answer file, CONFIG_NOVA_CONDUCTOR_HOST17:17
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larsksYes.  In fact, other than NOVA_COMPUTE_HOSTS, all of your _HOST variables should probably point at the same thing.17:18
larsksThis is actually required in recent packstack releases, where all the _HOST settings have been replaced by a singel CONFIG_CONTROLLER_HOST.17:19
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choirboystill trying to wrap my head around a couple of things... since there are three networks - one for external access, one for tenant networking, and one for management traffic, I *assume* that I should define all the management services to use ip addresses on the management network. Is that a sane assumption?17:20
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|splat|i seem to have 1 instance stuck in a table somewhere. it doesn't show up on any instance list thru nova, but on the webui on the overview page it says there is 1 instance17:25
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choirboyso if my public address on my management node is 172.31.100.x, my management network is 192.168.x.y and my tenant network is 10.0.0.x, pretty much everything should be on the 192.168.x.y network then, except for the compute nodes which should be on the 182.31.100.x network.17:25
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choirboysorry typo - compute nodes which should be on the 172.31.100.x network17:26
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|splat|choirboy: i just went thru that same thing.17:27
|splat|I have all services on my headnode using my EXT network17:27
choirboywouldn't you want them on the management network, though?17:27
|splat|that's what i thought, and ther emight be a way to get more fine grained with it17:28
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|splat|but i was getting pretty hung up on what goes where. so for right now this is how i got it working yesterday17:29
choirboy|splat|: for my install, I'm defining everything in my answer file on the management network17:29
choirboyexcept the compute nodes, and they are on the tenant network (I think that's right)17:29
|splat|basically i just followed this  then added in
choirboyoooh, nice17:29
|splat|then to fix the webvnc, i added rules to all the firewalls to open up the ports on INT17:30
|splat|i just did -A INPUT -s <int>/24 -j ACCEPT17:30
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|splat|and now it's working.17:30
|splat|everything works. finally.17:31
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|splat|well. except windows VMs17:31
|splat|they're halfway there.17:31
choirboyit seems like you'd want to set the ip addresses for all management functions on the management network, then all the compute node addresses on the tenant network, and the CONFIG_NOVA_VNCPROXY_HOST as the public network address17:31
choirboyis that right?17:31
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|splat|you don't want anything on tenant network. that's all through the br-int IIRC17:32
|splat|i was thinking things like rabbitmq, mysql you'd only want on INT17:32
choirboyok, so then define CONFIG_NOVA_COMPUTE_HOSTS on the management network?17:32
|splat|yes public17:32
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|splat|that might work17:33
choirboywait - on the management network, or the public network?17:33
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choirboyin my network, there are three subnets - one for public access (e.g. the folks using the OS environment), one for management traffic (rabbit and the like), and one for tenant networking17:34
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larsksCONFIG_NOVA_COMPUTE_HOSTS would be on the "management" network.  This is for api traffic between the compute hosts and the controller.17:35
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choirboyah, ok17:36
larsksThe only place the "public" network would show up would be for (a) floating ips and (b) external access to your web interface/api services.17:36
larsksThe "tenant" network would typically have your GRE or VXLAN tunnels between compute hosts and the neutron host.17:36
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J_Manhello all!  Question....if you're using legacy nova-network, is there any way to have floating IP's on separate networks?18:09
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J_Manthose separate networks being on different ethernet interfaces (or tagged vlans)18:10
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halbert-awayJ_Man: you don't have any control on the API when you request a public ip, which subnet you are getting it from though.18:17
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halbertyou're just asking from the service to assign you one from the pool18:17
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J_Manhalbert - if you have separate pools for each network, tho?18:18
J_ManI know with FlatDHCP have a single interface that is designated as the public interface18:19
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J_Manbut these separate subnets would be available to the compute nodes on different interfaces, depending on which subnet18:19
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halbertright J_Man, exactly.18:19
J_Manis that doable tho?18:19
halbertLet's walk this through18:20
J_Mancause all the docs I've read you can only specify one interface as the "public" interface18:20
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halbertyou have 10 vms on a few compute nodes, these vms are part of three different tenants18:20
halbertin nova network, a vm can only below to one tenant at a time18:20
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halbertso in nova-network with vlans, what happens is you would have created a vlan device per tenant on a compute node, and this vlan device would share a bridge with all vms that belong to the tenant that owns that vlan18:22
J_Manthat's what I've read in regard to the fixed network info18:22
J_Manso you segregate vm's for that tenant into their own fixed network18:22
halbertnow all your packets that come out of the vm veth device, goes to the bridge, gets tagged, and then leaves the bridge via the vlan device.18:23
halberthear me out :)18:23
juesusing nova network flat manager can i expose the virtual machines direct access using public ip address's not using a private address18:23
halbertonce your layer 2 packets get tagged and leave the compute node, they go back to the nova-network node, as generally that's where you set your vm's default gw18:24
J_Manwith you so far18:24
J_Mannova-network does snat and dnat at that stage18:24
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halbertpretty much, if you leave the confines of your private network, you leave via the designated gw of the nova-network node18:25
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halbertHOWEVER, and this is a big caveat18:25
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halbertwhile you can stick public network ips of different subnets18:25
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halberton nova-network's networking node, and you would vlan that shit however which way you want.18:25
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halbertthe packets will pass, however, there's no way for you to say 'this vm, gets this public ip from this range, this vm, gets this public ip from that other range'18:26
halbertby way of the euca or nova apis18:26
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halbertyou'd have to write your own thing.18:27 you can't specify which floating network a particular VM gets it's IP from18:27
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halbertI don't think you can.18:27
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J_Manhonestly, part of me is wondering if we shouldn't just go to neutron18:27
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halbertWell, some people have gotten neutron to work18:28
halbertI haven't18:28
halbertI'm stuck there right now.18:28
J_Manbut from everything I'm reading, neutron depends on a dedicated network host, and best you can do is an active/passive setup18:28
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jidarI'm not sure doing DNAT/SNAT in a compute node is the right solution for lots and lots of shops :(18:28
jidarbut I'm new to openstack, so take that with a grain of salt18:28
halbertJ_Man: yeah, if you are using openvswitch sure18:29
halbertbut there's got to be a vendor out there that talks to neutron, like the bigswitch dudes, who has something more enterprise ready18:29
J_Manour concern with neutron is two-fold:  1) we want to try to avoid single-point-of-failure and 2) we worry about saturating the network link on a single dedicated network node18:29
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WormManJ_Man: luckily we only want a Unicorn... :)18:30
halbertJ_Man: well, don't quote me on this, but...  I'm not sure if you are limited to one network node.18:30
halbertyou are limited to one network node, per network...18:30
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halbertahhh wait, nevermind18:30
halbertjust thinking out loud...18:30
J_Maneverything I read indicates best you can do for HA with neutron is active/passive18:30
halbertyeah, J_Man that's what it looks like on the guides18:31
halbertwhat's your userbase gonna be looking like?18:31
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WormManthere is distributed HA coming.... eventually. But for today you're gonna be talking to vendors18:31
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J_Man10-15 tenant groups currently...each group will most likely get it's own floating pool18:31
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halberthow much bandwidth do they need coming and going to other networks?18:32
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J_Maneach tenant will probably end up at least in the gigabit/s range18:32
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halbertWormMan: can you have more than one nova-network node, and seperate out your nova infrastructure by regions?18:34
halbertthat way J_Man can split out his tenants across regions and he can scale horizontally?18:35
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J_Manfyi...our current demo cluster is running nova-network multi-host (nova-network on each compute node)18:35
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J_Manbut with only a single floating pool18:36
J_Manusing FlatDHCP18:36
J_Manthe way I envision it...we bring more subnets to the public interfaces via tagged vlans, set up multiple bridges, and let the selection of which floating pool determine which bridge the traffic goes out of18:38
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halbertJ_Man: hrmn...18:39
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halbertsuppose you have zones set up per tenants...18:39
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J_Manjust not sure that will work, since all the configs I've seen have a specific interface designated as the public interface18:40
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J_Manand to the linux compute nodes, tagged vlans essentially are independent interfaces18:40
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halbertand you have nova-network flat-dhcp multi-host going, so you rope x nodes for a specific tenant.18:41
halbertand each tenant has exclusive rights to their compute nodes18:41
J_Manhmmm...I think I know what you're getting at there18:42
halbertyou still can't really make sure that you pick the right ip from the floating pool...18:42
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halbertsuppose you don't care, you just wanna filter on layer 2.18:43
halbertthose tenants can't see one another, but your upstream router can see all of them.18:43
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halbertthen your public interface probably can just going into a tagged rather than a trunk port for that tenant...18:44
halbertI dunno...  sounds very hackish and it would be a mess to troubleshoot18:44
J_Manso're saying "Compute1&2 for tenant1, Compute3&4 for tenant2"18:44
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halbertsomething like that...18:45
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J_Manand only connect those compute nodes to the network they need to be on18:45
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halbertand you have multi node flatdhcp running, and connect them to the network they need to be on18:45
halbertI've never done this before, and it sounds like it ...could...  work ?18:45
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J_Manyeah, i think it could...but it's not exactly what we were envisioning originally18:46
halbertIf you can't feel the hesitation from my keystrokes, I feel really uneasy that you might interpret this as a recommendation rather than just a mere possibility :)18:46
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J_ManI understand18:46
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J_ManI just feel that, as complex as we already are in our fit the new cluster into what we already have, we're going to have to go to neutron18:47
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J_Manand we're going to have major issues with scale at that point, PLUS the additional hardware cost of buying dedicated network nodes18:47
halbertJ_Man: I think you should go with the canonical examples (I mean the word rather than the brand)18:47
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WormManthere's the blueprint, but it's still mostly hypothetical18:48
halbertJ_Man: it's rather hazardous to do this politically18:48
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halbertbut you might want to deploy a testing prototype that you expose to clients18:48
halberton a trial basis ?18:48
halbertand if they like it, then upgrade the network node with a real vendor solution ?18:49
J_ManI've been working on's only internal to our team right now - the networking issue is the only real sticking point...we really don't feel comfortable letting the other groups play until we resolve that18:49
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halbertJ_Man: are you happy with the performance now?18:50
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J_ManSo far, it seems pretty good.  I haven't done much stress testing on it however18:51
cmtimehalbert: I work with J_Man our problem is our setup is simply complex with multiple networks and that is our wall we keep hitting.18:51
WormManneutron will solve all your problems... someday :)18:52
cmtimeYes but not till multi node18:52
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WormManwe've looked at some vendors, but haven't yet found anyone in our budget and does exactly what we want(which is basically just multihost in neutron)18:53
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cmtimebrocade looks like a option but not sure18:53
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WormManyea, that's the other problem, weeding through all the buzzwords on vendors sites18:54
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cmtimeRight now we are Front-end multi VLAN and back-end multi VLAN and can not easily get away from that.18:54
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WormManthere's stuff like OpenDaylight and OpenContrail, but once again I can't figure out what they actually DO18:55
cmtimeWith many hardware load balances and ya its complex18:55
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WormMan(well, short of spending a week installing and testing them and finding all the features and missing features)18:56
halbertWormMan: yeah, especially like, the whole combination of loading indigo firmware on switches, that talk to floodlight, that you then interface neutron with18:56
cmtimeYa I think we need to pay for a consultant that knows at this point but it seems like the options are not around less we hardware route this with a device that talks with openstack18:57
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WormManI would love to find 'Neutron in an HA box' but I also haven't found one of those... maybe you'll have better luck18:58
halbertcmtime and J_Man, would you prefer another virtualization platform at this point ?18:58
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halbertI guess what I wanna say is, why openstack?18:59
cmtimeYa any option is okay18:59
halbertwhat does openstack give you now that some of the other free stuff doesn't ?18:59
cmtimeHere is why18:59
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cmtimeWe just wanted to have a controlled VM solution where our customers could manage what they have.  And we could over see the larger picture.  Right now we are having to manage 50+ racks and be to involved.  Our goal is gluster backed storage with a web interface to allow people to turn up nodes when they want.19:01
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* WormMan spends a few hours cursing at his ceph install for 'fun'19:01
cmtimeno thank you19:02
WormManat least it's not gluster :)19:02
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halbertMy ceph install is actually functional19:02
cmtimeI think gluster gets a bad name but not hear to fight that fight =P19:02
WormManmost of my fun is just getting our puppet speaking properly for Ubuntu 14.0419:03
halbertgluster has improved tremendously in the last few years.19:03
cmtimeWe have 2 500TB glusters that are working well.19:03
halbertthat's good to hear.19:03
halbertmore options is more better19:03
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cmtimebut I say that after bashing my head into a wall all week to get windows working with it =P19:04
halbertHow did you get windows to talk nice to it19:04
cmtimectdb and samba19:04
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halbertoh, so you had a gluster client that in turned shared it out by samba ?19:04
cmtime2 of them ya19:05
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cmtimeperformance is equal to a standalone samba server19:05
Diplomatguys, any ideas how somebody can hack an instance ?19:05
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halbertGuest40112: uhhh...  they are just vms man.19:06
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Guest40112yea, but somebody sent me a funny grub message "echo you got owned"19:06
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Guest40112my passwords are pretty difficult..19:07
halbertGuest40112: what services are you running on the vm?19:07
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Guest40112cpanel only19:07
cmtimeDo you have any advice on what other cloud solution we should look at?19:07
halbertcmtime: not with what you want.  Openstack is perhaps the most stable.19:07
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Guest40112damn, i cant change my username lol19:08
Guest40112but anyway yea.. is there a way for me to see how they are able to restart my vm and um.. view this grub thing19:08
halbertif you didn't need a nice interface (web and api) for clients, a buddy of really likes the free version of xenserver.  there are all manners of command line utils to talk to it.19:08
halbertthat's neither here nor there.19:08
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halbertGuest40112: they managed to get your grub config, which means they either got the compute node at the bottom, paused your vm, mounted your vm drives and editted the grub config, or your cpanel install is borked.19:09
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halbertand they managed to use that broken cpanel and leveraged that to get a local root hole.19:10
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Guest40112i wonder how they got that access because i have really strong passwords and a paid cpanel license not some bs19:11
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halbertdo you have ssh running on that vm ?19:11
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anthonyvhello all I am having an issue getting dns leases. I have a 3 node manual setup via docs. I am running the latest icehouse on RHEL6..5. The only way to get leases working is to restart openstack services on the compute node19:15
anthonyvI have to do this every time I reboot my instance.19:15
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anthonyvAny clues on what could be wrong19:16
halbertdns or dhcp leases ?19:16
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anthonyvsorry dhcp not dns19:16
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Guest40112halber: yes ssh is running19:16
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Guest40112but i can check from logs, wtf is going on19:16
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halbertGuest40112: I think that would be best...  You should let your openstack admin know what happened19:17
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halberthe or she would be interested in that.19:17
halbertanthonyv: let's run this back on a play by play19:18
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halbertyou start a vm...19:18
halbertit comes up19:18
halbertyou get a network assigned to it.19:18
halbert(or it wouldn't boot up)19:18
anthonyvit boot up fine19:18
halbertit boots up fine19:18
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anthonyvfails on getting a lease19:18
Guest40112interesting thing is other vms are all good..19:19
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halbertwhat networking model are you using?  neutron gres ?  neutron vlans ?  nova-network ?19:19
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anthonyvif I restart the services on the compute node; then ifup eth0 in the instance it come up right away19:19
anthonyvneutron ml2 -19:20
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halbertI suck at neutron btw...19:20
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halbertdid you restart nova-compute or neutron-nova-agent ?19:20
anthonyvme too :-)19:20
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ranger81Can someone tell me how much of service chaining is implemented in Neutron -
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Guest40112somebody tries to brute force login to my cpanel19:22
anthonyvwell I restart the compute node to beuase use openstack-service restart19:22
halbertanthonyv: I think this is where you go into the developers channel19:22
halbertso you restarted both the neutron agent and the compute service19:22
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halbertthrow up a vm, and I think the neutron-agent is the culprit, but restart one service and see if it gets the dhcp ip19:23
halbertthen do the other one and see19:23
anthonyvlet me give it a try - brb19:24
halbertwhen you restart neutron-agent you rebuild all of your gre tunnels.19:24
halbertand when you restart nova-compute you re-register your compute service to the meta-data service, as well as other shit that gets set up19:24
anthonyvI think the issues lies there19:24
halbertso it could narrow it down on where you wanna look.19:25
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anthonyvk let me try restarting one service at time (brb)19:25
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WormManhmm, apache and wsgi and python hate me... whee19:27
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halberthey WormMan, I got a problem with neutron config, I keep getting these errors:19:27
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halbertmessage": "Unexpected vif_type=binding_failed", "code": 500, "details":19:28
halbertand I get back weird errors from python-libvirt where the binding of the veth failed19:28
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WormManhalbert: hmm, I hit that, it turned out to be one of the 3700 configuration settings19:29
Pursuithello all! anyone have any idea why dhcpcd as installed in Arch and SuSE fails to get a default route? Instances seem to get all of the other routes specified in the subnet config, but not the default.19:29
halbertand I get an error on the neutron-server that says 'failed to bind instance....'19:29
Pursuitusing Neutron/OVS/Vlans if that makes any difference19:29
halbertWormMan: yeah I figured.  Which one was it for you?19:29
halbertcause I've been at this for about a week...19:30
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WormManhalbert: I don't remember, I just kept adding redundant settings... make sure the physnets are set properly, make sure all the nova-compute is properly set for nova make sure the proper flags are set on the subnet(or is it the nework) in the neutron db19:31
WormManer nova-compute is set properly for neutron19:31
WormManmy neutron is not yet under config management so I don't have a nice pretty log of all the changes19:32
halbertso configuration by monte carlo19:32
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halbertand hulk smash keyboard19:32
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WormManhmm, binding of the veth, using OpenVSwitch?19:33
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WormManso, all the ovs stuff appears to be working correctly then? the proper kernel module loaded, etc. Also, be sure to check system logs, (syslog, messages) sometimes they have hints as to what really went wrong19:34
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halbertwell, I can see the gre tunnels going from the compute nodes to the network node19:35
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halbertand that kernel mods are loaded19:35
halbertand the root-wrap stuff is returning 0 as a status19:36
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WormManhmm, no good suggestions then, I assume you checked the bug trackers then, could be a libvirt problem, version issue or bug19:39
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halbertI'll go give it a look.  thanks dude19:39
juesok so i've asked a couple times in hopes someone would know, but heres another try at it.  I am trying to design up an openstack cluster.  Currently we are using SolusVM and are utilizings the linux bridging of interfaces to hand out public 205.x.x.x ip's directly to our vm's.  And then when it calls for multiple vm's we are throwing up a pfsense vm with dual nics creating an internal/external19:39
juesfor those customers and then all of the vm's behind that pfsense bridge to the internal interface of the pfsense.  Now i was hoping to migrate to OpenStack but with the current model i am using.  Is it possible to use Nova-networks and a Flat model ?19:39
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matzieI’m having trouble finding docs on the command-line sytnax to launch an instance with a block device mapping.  Can anyone give me a hint please?19:41
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matziewant to create volume from image19:42
halberthave you created the volume from image yet ?  have you initiated the cinder command that downloads the raw image from glance and converts it ?19:42
matzieah I didn’t realise that was a necessary step?19:43
matzieI’ve just found
halbertyeah, to boot from volume, you need to make a bootable volume first.19:43
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halbertand you generally do that by converting something in the image store to the volume store.19:43
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halbertmake sure that works before you experiment with the nova command line19:45
halbertthe command flags to do it is here:
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J_Manhalbert: WormMan: with neutron - could you have multiple neutron routers, each one handing the routing for it's own tenant?19:46
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matzieok thx I’ll dig in that direction, appreciate your help19:46
halbertJ_Man: I think you really wanna go into #openstack-neutron and ask that19:46
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jmicklehey guys19:57
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jmicklehas anyone had any issues with centos root partition resizing to the instance size19:58
Gamekiller77not sure any one follows my problem but i asked what the time out is for horizon it 30 or so minutes and the variable is missing but it SESSION_TIMEOUT= you have to add it to the dashboard settings19:58
Gamekiller77jmickle, via cloud-init yes19:58
jmickleGamekiller77: is there a fix?19:59
Gamekiller77what is your partition setup19:59
jmickleim using the public centos 6.5 image19:59
jmickleand it just uses a / partition with ext419:59
Gamekiller77not KVM19:59
jmickleits always 16 GB19:59
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jmickleregardless of the image size19:59
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Gamekiller77do you see the cloud-init work at boot time20:03
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jmicklehmm let me check the cloud init log20:05
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jmickleyeah i just see a no modifications to fstab needed20:08
jmickleno errors though20:08
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juesok so i've asked a couple times in hopes someone would know, but heres another try at it.  I am trying to design up an openstack cluster.  Currently we are using SolusVM and are utilizings the linux bridging of interfaces to hand out public 205.x.x.x ip's directly to our vm's.  And then when it calls for multiple vm's we are throwing up a pfsense vm with dual nics creating an internal/external20:14
juesfor those customers and then all of the vm's behind that pfsense bridge to the internal interface of the pfsense.  Now i was hoping to migrate to OpenStack but with the current model i am using.  Is it possible to use Nova-networks and a Flat model ?20:14
|splat|is there a way to clean out "ip netns"?  it's listen a bunch of qrouters and qdhcps that aren't in existence anymore20:15
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hackoowhat is the path of the VM snapshots in the OpenStack machine ? I want to migrate them to other environment. Is it /var/lib/glance/images ?20:16
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mischiefwell crap.20:36
mischiefi upgraded from 12.04->14.04 yesterday and havana->icehouse20:37
mischiefnow it seems my instances dont get their ip on boot20:37
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mischiefwhere can i look?20:37
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larsksmischief: Start probably with the nova-compute log, and possibly the neutron-openvswitch-agent log if you're using neutron.20:40
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larsksmischief: ...are the instances booting successfully and then just not getting an ip, or are they failing to boot with some sort of error?20:40
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mischieflarsks: they just dont get an ip20:41
mischiefand now i forgot my pw so i cant login to the console.. :|20:41
mischiefi'm using ubuntu 12.04 cloud image20:42
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halbertjues: in a word, maybe.  the nova-network node would have all the public ips.  All traffic to public ips would traverse to main external interface on the nova-network node20:42
mischiefi found ..20:42
magicrobotmonkeythey dont have a password20:42
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magicrobotmonkeyyou should use cirros until you get the networking worked out20:42
halbertthis gets snat and dnatted to the actual vms.20:42
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halbertso in a way, you can give your vm with pfsense a lot of public ips, you can ask for more than one20:43
mischiefi guess i can mount the disk in the host and edit the networking config20:43
mischiefthis upgrade sucks20:43
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halbertbut that means you will be doing a double nat.20:43
halbertit is technically feasible, but probably not what you want.20:43
larsksmischief: I would (a) get working console access and then (b) pull out tcpdump and figure out exactly what is happening with the dhcp requests.20:43
larsksmischief: boot a cirros image for testing if you don't remember your existing passwords.20:44
en0xhi, I installed openstack but the only issue i have is the networking. my network is and i would like to have my virtual servers have external ips in this range. I have no idea how to set this up20:44
en0xi read all the docs but i'm confused20:44
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mischieflarsks: ok.. have to add it20:45
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mischieflarsks: status: error20:49
mischiefgreat -.-20:49
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mischiefthe web ui shows this20:51
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halbertmischief: I have that error too20:53
mischiefglad to know i am not alone!20:53
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larsksmischief: I would take a close look through your neutron logs, in particular the openvswitch-agent log, to see if you spot any errors.20:54
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choirboylarsks: back to my earlier questions... if my private/management network is 192.168.x.y and my public network (the one I will be connecting from my "enterprise" from) is 172.31.100.x, I should define the horizon host on the public network, right? So that the management UI is available from the enterprise?20:56
larskschoirboy: That seems to make sense, yes.20:56
mischieflarsks: ovs-vswitchd.log20:57
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mischiefdoesn't look too good, but i didnt see any other files with errors. not any in neutron at least20:57
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mischiefthis is the only content of neutron/server.log "2014-06-05 13:49:15.778 2142 WARNING neutron.plugins.ml2.managers [req-aebd9161-4f3c-44c8-b357-e379cca3cf6c None] Failed to bind port 9ab45389-1d48-413a-a4c7-c1b8bc1fd558 on host luh3417"20:58
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choirboysame for CONFIG_NOVA_VNCPROXY_HOST - the public network so folks from the enterprise can access VNC, right?20:58
mischiefwhich seems bad too :)20:58
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larsksmischief: not ovs-vswitchd.log.  neutron/openvswtich-agent.log20:58
larskschoirboy: yup!20:58
mischieflarsks: empty20:58
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larsksmischief: on both the compute hosts *and* your controller?20:59
mischieflarsks: there's only one20:59
mischiefit's all on the same computer20:59
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larsksmischief: Okay.  In that case it's very odd that the file is empty.20:59
larsksYou are using neutron, right?21:00
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mischieflarsks: i restarted the neutron-plugin-openvswitch-agent21:00
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larsksOkay.  Then try launching a new instance and see what happens.21:02
larsksConsider tailing that log and nova/compute.log while it boots.21:02
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mischiefsame Unexpected vif_type=binding_failed21:02
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mischiefthere's a stacktrace relating to vif_type=binding_failed in nova/nova-compute.log21:03
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halberthey mischief, I don't mean to butt in in larsks, but can you check your neutron and nova rootwrap commands and see if they actually return 021:07
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larskshalbert: feel free to butt in!  I'm distracted.21:07
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halbertI've seen it before where the rootwrap stuff getting called by sudo sometimes doesn't work21:10
halbertand you have to tweak your sudoers file21:10
mischiefhow do i use rootwrap21:10
halbertbut yeah, I'm having exactly the same error21:10
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zzellemischief, must of the time vif_type=binding_failed is a configuration mistake21:11
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giorgishi again people21:12
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giorgisError: Package: openstack-utils-2014.1-1.el6.noarch (openstack-icehouse) requires crudini21:12
giorgisany ideas?21:12
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larsksmischief: re zzelle 's comment: I call it "openstack's most useless error".  It generally means something incorrect in your network configuration (which is why I was suggesting watching your neutron logs carefully).21:14
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giorgisto answer my own problem epel repo was not enabled!!!21:15
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dtrainorHowdy.  Are there any user-configurable directives that point to an ove/neutron host, or does that host simply talk to the controller and the controller then tells the other systems where/what the ovs/neutron host is?21:15
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mischiefi have never used rootwrap before21:16
mischiefhow do?21:16
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zzellemischief, could you dump your ml2 plugin config ?21:17
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mischief/etc/neutron/plugins/ml2/ml2_conf.ini ?21:18
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zzellemechanism_drivers option is empty21:20
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zzellemischief, if you are using neutron-plugin-openvswitch, iirc, you should set mechanism_drivers=openvswitch21:22
mischiefi just followed the upgrade guide :s21:22
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zzellecould you update it and restart neutron-server ?21:23
mischiefwait wait21:23
halbertzzelle: the mechaism_drivers option is right at the top21:23
larsksmischief: what is core_plugin in /etc/neutron/neutron.conf?  are you using ml2?21:23
halbertit's enabled21:23
mischiefit's at the top21:23
mischiefcore_plugin = ml221:23
larsksmischief: thanks.21:23
halbertmischief: it looks like what the install/upgrade guide tells you to do.21:24
mischiefbasically i followed
larsksdtrainor: clients typically discover api endpoints through the service catalog maintained by keystone.21:24
mischiefto the best of my ability21:24
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dtrainorgot it. thanks.  trying to connect all of the two million dots.21:24
mischieftoo bad there's no one program to sanity check all of your configs. :)21:24
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zzellemischief, could you dump the associated neutron-plugin-openvswitch-agent stacktrace ?21:27
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mischiefi'm being asked to take a photo with my team.. one moment >.>21:29
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mischiefzzelle: that would be neutron/openvswitch-agent.log ?21:32
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zzellemischief, yep21:35
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mischiefzzelle: it's the same as before.. i pasted it a bit earlier
zzelleERROR neutron.plugins.openvswitch.agent.ovs_neutron_agent [req-74866d6b-d512-4452-b758-987569bafbd7 None] Cannot provision gre network for net-id=38de312f-510c-42e6-bb00-0c6053a22883 - tunneling disabled21:36
zzellemischief, your node does not support gre !21:37
mischiefokay.. how do i ..21:37
mischief# lsmod | grep gre21:38
mischiefgre                    13796  1 openvswitch21:38
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zzellemischief, is it a virtual machine or lxc machine ?21:39
mischiefthe guests i am trying to boot are VM21:39
mischiefthe compute and controller (basically all of the services) are on one computer21:40
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karimbis there any guide on how to configure rabbit mq for use within icehouse21:40
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zzellemischief, could you do the following command:21:41
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zzelleovs-vsctl add-port br-tun taz -- set taz Interface type=gre21:43
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zzelleovs-vsctl add-port br-tun taz -- set Interface taz type=gre21:43
mischiefovs-vsctl: unknown table "taz"21:43
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mischiefi have br-ex br-int and br-tun21:44
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zzelledid you try first or last command ?21:45
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zzelleso try last :)21:45
mischiefit worked21:46
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mischief        Port taz21:46
mischief            Interface taz21:46
mischief                type: gre21:46
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mischiefso perhaps a configuration problem instead of lacking GRE21:46
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zzellemischief, could you give me your ovs version ? last line of 'ovs-vsctl show" and your kernel version21:48
mischief    ovs_version: "2.0.1"21:49
mischiefLinux luh3417 3.13.0-27-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Thu May 15 18:06:16 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux21:49
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zzellecould enable debug on your plugin-agent and retry you test in order to get more details ?21:50
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mischiefzzelle: stand by21:51
zzelleme ..........21:52
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mischiefzzelle: by debug on plugin agent you mean ml2 or..?21:54
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zzelleneutron plugin openvswitch21:54
halbertmischief: he means, set the debug = True in /etc/neutron/plugins/ml2/ml2_conf.ini21:54
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zzellei would prefer in /etc/neutron/neutron.conf21:55
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zzellemischief, which version of neutron are you using trunk ? icehouse ?21:59
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mischiefzzelle: icehouse22:00
mischiefi just upgraded22:00
jmicklehas anyone had problems with cloud init not resizing a disk on launch with centos?22:00
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zzellei am not fluent with tunnels but it seems you should define AGENT.tunnel_types option22:04
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zzellemischief, in ml2_conf.ini or neutron.conf ... set in [AGENT] sectin tunnel_types = gre22:07
chuckChi all, does anyone here know the devstack settings needed to get horizon vm console to work?22:07
mischiefzzelle: *or*?22:07
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mischiefzzelle: is AGENT a placeholder for ml2 here...?22:08
zzellemischief, choose which one you like most, the effect should be the same :)22:08
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mischiefzzelle: Tunneling cannot be enabled without a valid local_ip. Agent terminated!22:15
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zzelleso define a local_ip in AGENT22:15
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mischiefzzelle: is that the public ip?22:16
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zzelleoups, no it is the ip used by gre tunnels22:17
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zzellei check, it is in local_ip in OVS section22:17
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mischiefzzelle: uh, i switched from ovs to ml2 (i think) as recommended by the openstack havana to icehouse upgrade guide22:18
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zzellemischief, OVS is still used22:19
zzellemischief, before you use OVS core_plugin and plugin-agent22:19
zzellemischief, now you use ML2 core plugin with plugin-agent22:20
mischief/etc/neutron/plugins/openvswitch/ovs_neutron_plugin.ini has local_ip set in OVS section22:20
zzelleoup, s/plugin-agent/plugin-openvswitch-agent/s22:20
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zzellemischief, on my deployment /etc/neutron/plugins/openvswitch/ovs_neutron_plugin.ini is not used22:21
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zzelleprefer neutron.conf or ml2_conf.ini22:21
mischieferr, so i add a [OVS] section to ml2_conf.ini?22:21
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zzellemischief, if you are not sure of which options are loaded by a service, they are printed  in debug logs22:22
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mischiefi think its working now22:24
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zzellemischief, everything is one node ?22:25
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mischiefnow i can at least boot the instance22:25
zzellemischief, so you don't need gre ...22:25
mischiefseems like dhcp is still messed up though22:25
zzellemischief, you could use local networks22:25
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mischieflarsks: you suggest cirros earlier? how can i get to the console?22:28
mischieffinally timed out22:28
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mischiefrebooting :|22:30
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halbertzzelle: do you know what this [agent] variable means ?  AGENT.l2_population22:34
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zzellehalbert, yep, it is for gre/vxlan22:34
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zzelle# (BoolOpt) Flag to enable l2-population extension. This option should only be22:36
zzelle# used in conjunction with ml2 plugin and l2population mechanism driver. It'll22:36
zzelle# enable plugin to populate remote ports macs and IPs (using fdb_add/remove22:36
zzelle# RPC calbbacks instead of tunnel_sync/update) on OVS agents in order to22:36
zzelle# optimize tunnel management.22:36
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mischiefoh shit22:36
halbertSo set that to True ?22:36
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zzellehalbert, you have multiples nodes ?22:39
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mischiefi'm beginning to think trying to use openstack was a mistake22:40
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mischiefit's so complicated that it's barely worth the time for such a small use case22:41
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halbertzzelle: yeah I do22:42
halbertI've got 4 nodes22:42
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zzellehalbert, you can set it to true ... but it is not mandatory22:43
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halbertzzelle: I'm still getting the same error mischief was getting22:43
zzelleit is a generic error linked to a configuration trouble22:44
zzellehalbert, look at mischief config22:44
zzellesoorry i have to leave22:44
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halbertzzelle, I will if he shares it :)22:46
halberthey mischief, you mind emailing me your neutron.conf, ml2_conf.ini and your nova.conf ?22:46
mischiefwill that fix my dhcp22:46
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halbertnah, your dhcp-agent stuff is in a dhcp-agent.ini though right?22:50
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mischiefhalbert: yes22:54
mischiefbut it no longer functions22:54
mischiefno vm gets ip22:54
mischiefneutron agent-list shows all is fine..22:55
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halbertmischief: well, I am still stuck where you were 20 minutes ago22:57
halbertthere was a guy who asked about this in this channel earlier this morning22:57
halbertI think #openstack has irc logs22:57
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mischiefhalbert: did you still want my configs22:58
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halbertyeah mischief, I'll look over them if you don't mind22:59
halbertplease tarball them up and send them to my email address that I will msg to you22:59
mischiefstand by22:59
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halbertyou are on centos right?23:00
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newbie123hello! I am attempting to install keystone on SLES11 and have added the repo per the documentation but i am having the same issue described in this bug report I run   zypper search openstack and see openstack keystone has a srcpackage but no package. Is this normal behavior for the repo? help me i'm a noob23:01
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mischiefhalbert: no23:03
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mischiefubuntu 14.04 lts server.23:03
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mischiefhalbert: see pm23:04
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mischiefstarting to think i should just run docker ._.'23:09
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