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| Guest38586 | quantum error: AMQP server on <ip> is unreachable: [Errno 111] ECONNREFUSED | 00:41 |
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| mischief | dtrainor: to whatever the defualt is | 00:43 |
| mischief | all i need to do is fix the security groups | 00:44 |
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| mischief | and then my openstack floating ips will work again | 00:44 |
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| dtrainor | i believe the default is a security group named 'default' with nothing in it, right? | 00:46 |
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| dtrainor | i don't think security groups have any effect on the actual use of floating ips. the operation of a floating ip might be affected by a security group though, right? | 00:47 |
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| kype | Hi, are the files in "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/nova/" run during openstack startup or installlation? | 00:47 |
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| mischief | dtrainor: it affects what iptables are made | 00:48 |
| mischief | it seems anyay | 00:48 |
| mischief | anyway | 00:48 |
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| mischief | i seriously can't find anything in the icehouse install guide about the security groups | 00:58 |
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| mischief | http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/install-guide/install/apt/content/launch-instance-neutron.html | 00:59 |
| mischief | this shows creating rules for one instance | 00:59 |
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| mischief | but isn't there a way to make these default for all new created instances..? | 00:59 |
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| mischief | when i do nova show <instace> i see security_groups | default | 01:07 |
| mischief | what 'default' does this reference? | 01:07 |
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| chengwei_ | mischief: 'default' security group | 02:01 |
| chengwei_ | mischief: see http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/content/Launching_Instances_using_Dashboard.html | 02:01 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mischief: the default secgroup will apply to any instance unless otherwise specified | 02:24 |
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| skullone | can neutron route to outside networks managed by switches, without doing NAT? | 03:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | more like switch at that point | 03:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | provider networks | 03:08 |
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| irated | is it possible to do video card passthrough to the node? | 03:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | a what? | 03:22 |
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| irated | sorry | 03:23 |
| irated | i dont know what im talking about | 03:23 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you can console into an instance using vnc | 03:24 |
| irated | is it possible to do videocard passthrough to a vm | 03:24 |
| irated | or an instance | 03:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, vnc (or the novnc proxy) | 03:24 |
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| irated | No like be able to use the GPU inside the instance | 03:27 |
| irated | the/a | 03:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | oh, nothing specific i'm aware of | 03:30 |
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| irated | PCIe Passthrough? | 03:31 |
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| AGPX | hi all. I have enabled debug in glance. In the log I have: Constructed URL: http://0.0.0.0:9191/images/bf13fe59-9f54-4af0-a3f1-d646432d4b58 _construct_url /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/glance/common/client.py:408 | 07:16 |
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| AGPX | (glance actually doesn't work) | 07:16 |
| AGPX | is the address 0.0.0.0 correct? | 07:16 |
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| toddjcrane | AGPX 0.0.0.0 is a wildcard address often used for servers | 07:18 |
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| toddjcrane | So if you’re referring to your client config, use the ip address of the server not 0.0.0.0 | 07:19 |
| AGPX | yes, but looks like glance use it when I perform "glance image-list" | 07:19 |
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| toddjcrane | What is the role of the machine you are working on | 07:20 |
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| AGPX | I'm on the controller | 07:20 |
| AGPX | installed via RDO | 07:20 |
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| AGPX | it was working until network administrator changes the network | 07:21 |
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| AGPX | I'm trying to figure out the problem (glance return an error saying "ClientConnectionError") | 07:22 |
| AGPX | so looks like it can reach some address | 07:22 |
| toddjcrane | Give me one second | 07:22 |
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| AGPX | I have this in glance-api.conf: | 07:23 |
| AGPX | # Address to find the registry server | 07:23 |
| AGPX | registry_host = 0.0.0.0 | 07:23 |
| AGPX | looks like it use 0.0.0.0 as a sort of 'localhost' | 07:23 |
| toddjcrane | That should be the ip addess of the server | 07:23 |
| toddjcrane | the only time your should ever use 0.0.0.0 is for bind address | 07:24 |
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| AGPX | mmmh... rdo setup it this way. | 07:24 |
| AGPX | it's strange | 07:24 |
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| toddjcrane | So your glance role is not on the same server as your controller correct? | 07:25 |
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| AGPX | in the controller I have installed all the services | 07:26 |
| AGPX | including glance | 07:26 |
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| toddjcrane | In that case ignore my comment about 0.0.0.0 | 07:26 |
| toddjcrane | I thought you had dedicated servers for roles | 07:26 |
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| toddjcrane | Do me a favor and run ‘grep 0.0.0.0 /etc/glance/* -r’ | 07:29 |
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| AGPX | http://pastebin.com/ACGAe3Wh | 07:30 |
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| toddjcrane | Are you using a MySQL database? | 07:38 |
| toddjcrane | If so check if any of the endpoints contain 0.0.0.0 | 07:39 |
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| AGPX | yes I use mysql | 07:40 |
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| AGPX | If I try: | 07:42 |
| AGPX | curl -i -X GET http://0.0.0.0:9191 (it doesn't respond) | 07:42 |
| AGPX | curl -i -X GET http://127.0.0.1:9191 (it doesn't respond) | 07:43 |
| AGPX | curl -i -X GET http://<local ip>:9191 (it works) | 07:43 |
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| toddjcrane | Did you check your endpoints table? | 07:43 |
| AGPX | can you please remember me how to check it? | 07:44 |
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| toddjcrane | connect to your MySQL Server | 07:46 |
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| AGPX | yes | 07:46 |
| AGPX | ah ok, I see | 07:47 |
| toddjcrane | select your keystone database (If you can’t remember what its called use ‘show databases’ | 07:47 |
| AGPX | done, I have showed the endpoint table | 07:47 |
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| AGPX | I have no 0.0.0.0 or 127.0.0.1 inside it, only the local ip address (129.0.30.143 in my installation) | 07:48 |
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| toddjcrane | For future reference never give routable ip addresses on irc unless it is a production server | 07:49 |
| toddjcrane | otherwise you’re asking for trouble | 07:49 |
| AGPX | oh... isn't a local area network address? | 07:50 |
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| hugokuo | yoyo | 07:52 |
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| toddjcrane | It appears to be which is a horrible practice, but thats a fight for your network engineer | 07:57 |
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| toddjcrane | I’m assuming your server is in Italy not Africa correct | 07:58 |
| AGPX | yes | 07:58 |
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| AGPX | ok. I found "Glance RegistryClient only connects to 0.0.0.0:9292", that was an ancient bug that states that the address "0.0.0.0" was hardcoded in python scripts (nowadays that address is a parameter). However the point is that it use 0.0.0.0 to connecto to the registry: | 07:59 |
| AGPX | def get_images_list(): | 07:59 |
| AGPX | c = client.RegistryClient("0.0.0.0") | 07:59 |
| AGPX | return c.get_images() | 07:59 |
| AGPX | so looks like that 0.0.0.0 have some means for the client (maybe localhost?) | 08:00 |
| toddjcrane | what version of openstack are you using? | 08:00 |
| AGPX | havana | 08:00 |
| AGPX | installed about 2 months ago | 08:01 |
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| AGPX | the installation was done automatically thorugh RedHat RDO | 08:01 |
| AGPX | through packstall --allinone | 08:01 |
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| AGPX | packstack* | 08:02 |
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| toddjcrane | that bug was fixed back in early 2011 | 08:03 |
| toddjcrane | at least the one i was looking at | 08:03 |
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| AGPX | yes | 08:04 |
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| toddjcrane | so run through troubleshooting with me | 08:04 |
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| AGPX | I think I have to get rid of all the "0.0.0.0", replacing it with the local machine address. | 08:05 |
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| toddjcrane | Youre ssh’ed into your os server | 08:05 |
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| AGPX | yes | 08:05 |
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| toddjcrane | are your credentials loaded via env | 08:06 |
| AGPX | yes | 08:06 |
| toddjcrane | are all the other services working properly | 08:06 |
| AGPX | I have a problem with cinder actually | 08:06 |
| AGPX | but I think is a different issue | 08:06 |
| AGPX | (If I try to create a volume, cinder stay stuck in "creating" status forever) | 08:07 |
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| toddjcrane | is your storage local? as in drives physically attached to your server | 08:07 |
| AGPX | yes | 08:07 |
| AGPX | storage is local. | 08:07 |
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| toddjcrane | have you restarted since your NetEngr changed the network | 08:08 |
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| AGPX | yes, I have rebooted the controller. | 08:08 |
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| AGPX | all the services are up and running | 08:08 |
| AGPX | (from openstack-status) | 08:08 |
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| toddjcrane | check netstat for listening ports | 08:08 |
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| toddjcrane | ‘netstat -lp’ on ubuntu | 08:09 |
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| AGPX | yes | 08:09 |
| AGPX | I have the services listening | 08:10 |
| toddjcrane | does it list *:9292 or <local_ip>:9292 | 08:11 |
| AGPX | nope | 08:11 |
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| toddjcrane | can you copy the output to PasteBin? | 08:12 |
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| AGPX | effectively, glance bind_port=9292 from the glance-api.conf | 08:13 |
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| AGPX | but I have no 9292 in listening :\ | 08:13 |
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| AGPX | http://pastebin.com/0DGJ7tj6 | 08:14 |
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| toddjcrane | Run ‘pgrep glance’ | 08:17 |
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| AGPX | it returns 7 numbers | 08:17 |
| AGPX | pid of glance-api and glance-registry | 08:18 |
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| toddjcrane | stop glance-api and manually run it | 08:19 |
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| AGPX | stopped | 08:20 |
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| AGPX | re-started | 08:20 |
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| toddjcrane | do not restart via a script | 08:20 |
| toddjcrane | type in the command ‘glance-api’ to start it | 08:21 |
| AGPX | I have done: /etc/init.d/openstack-glance-api start | 08:21 |
| AGPX | it not enough? | 08:21 |
| toddjcrane | nope, stop it and run the command ‘glance-api' | 08:21 |
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| AGPX | ok, it output some log | 08:22 |
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| toddjcrane | wait for 30 sec | 08:22 |
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| toddjcrane | any new entries since you started it | 08:23 |
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| AGPX | no one | 08:24 |
| toddjcrane | do you have the shell prompt or is it still executing | 08:25 |
| AGPX | still executing | 08:25 |
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| AGPX | I have some error though | 08:25 |
| toddjcrane | What does it say? | 08:25 |
| AGPX | ERROR glance.store.sheepdog [-] Error in store configuration: Unexpected error while running command. | 08:25 |
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| AGPX | Stderr: '/bin/sh: collie: command not found\n' | 08:26 |
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| toddjcrane | found it https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1255556 | 08:27 |
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| toddjcrane | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1006783 | 08:27 |
| toddjcrane | It is fixed in Icehouse | 08:27 |
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| AGPX | I'm not sure if this is a real problem, that is glance was working before network administrator make its changes | 08:28 |
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| toddjcrane | what changes? | 08:29 |
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| AGPX | restrict access to the machine | 08:29 |
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| toddjcrane | how? network based or on the server | 08:29 |
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| AGPX | through routing table I think | 08:30 |
| AGPX | (non-openstack related, configuration files are not changed) | 08:30 |
| AGPX | two new entry: | 08:30 |
| AGPX | 2014-07-01 10:26:19.025 26712 DEBUG glance.common.client [7205999e-6e73-475d-b49f-161dc7ded910 83edcd4cd8d74f0eb2e36bb7625e9f7f c33c4a8ce51848d59cd6130636ef8e83] Constructed URL: http://0.0.0.0:9191/images/detail?limit=10 _construct_url /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/glance/common/client.py:408 | 08:30 |
| AGPX | 2014-07-01 10:27:22.054 26712 INFO glance.registry.client.v1.client [7205999e-6e73-475d-b49f-161dc7ded910 83edcd4cd8d74f0eb2e36bb7625e9f7f c33c4a8ce51848d59cd6130636ef8e83] Registry client request GET /images/detail raised ClientConnectionError | 08:30 |
| AGPX | "ClientConnectionError" | 08:30 |
| AGPX | 0.0.0.0:9191 is not accessible | 08:30 |
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| AGPX | nor 127.0.0.1:9191 | 08:30 |
| AGPX | this maybe the issue | 08:31 |
| toddjcrane | but <ip>:9191 is? | 08:31 |
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| AGPX | bind port of glance-registry | 08:33 |
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| toddjcrane | not what I meant… is <ip>:9191 accessible? | 08:33 |
| AGPX | through the ip machine yes | 08:34 |
| AGPX | tried with curl | 08:34 |
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| AGPX | but 127.0.0.1:9191 is not | 08:34 |
| AGPX | nor 0.0.0.0:9191 | 08:34 |
| toddjcrane | idk then… I’m stumped | 08:34 |
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| toddjcrane | Without my prod server in front of me I can’t do much more for you | 08:36 |
| AGPX | the glance python script try to use the url: http://0.0.0.0:9191/images/detail?limit=10 _construct_url /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/glance/common/client.py:408 | 08:36 |
| AGPX | to access the glance registry | 08:36 |
| AGPX | but the network refuse this connection | 08:36 |
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| toddjcrane | Yes but the question is why is it using 0.0.0.0 | 08:37 |
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| AGPX | due to the property 'registry_host = 0.0.0.0' in the glance-api.conf | 08:38 |
| AGPX | I think | 08:38 |
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| AGPX | that was working before | 08:38 |
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| toddjcrane | you can try it | 08:38 |
| toddjcrane | I have to go | 08:39 |
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| AGPX | ok, many thanks for the support | 08:39 |
| AGPX | I really appreciate it. | 08:39 |
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| toddjcrane | but one tip, as youre troubleshooting dont’ hardcode settings | 08:39 |
| toddjcrane | np sorry i couldn’t be of more help | 08:39 |
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| AGPX | oh no, you put me on the right road :) | 08:40 |
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| jaypipes | kopparam: ping. | 10:37 |
| kopparam | hi jaypipes | 10:37 |
| jaypipes | kopparam: so where are you attempting to ping from? | 10:37 |
| kopparam | my instances are up in active state | 10:37 |
| kopparam | from the compute node itself | 10:37 |
| jaypipes | kopparam: try pinging from the controller node. | 10:38 |
| kopparam | jaypipes: ok, I'll try | 10:39 |
| kopparam | jaypipes: I'm not able to ping instances or br100 from controller | 10:39 |
| jaypipes | kopparam: that is the first problem to solve. | 10:40 |
| kopparam | Ok. Do I add a route to compute? | 10:40 |
| jaypipes | kopparam: how have you set up your "control plane" networking between your controller and compute node? | 10:41 |
| jaypipes | kopparam: yes, you will need a route to compute over whatever NIC or bridge you are using for communication | 10:41 |
| kopparam | jaypipes: both are on the same LAN network. | 10:42 |
| kopparam | jaypipes: So I'll add a route for the nova network that I created over the NIC that can connect to compute? | 10:42 |
| jaypipes | kopparam: can you reach the interface on the compute node from the controller? i.e. not the br100, but the interface's IP address on the LAN? | 10:42 |
| kopparam | yes. I can reach compute from controller | 10:43 |
| jaypipes | ok. what does the iptables -rn show on the compute node? | 10:44 |
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| jaypipes | kopparam: BTW, what installation method for Openstack are you using? | 10:44 |
| kopparam | jaypipes: I have disabled iptables on both nodes just to check if tht was the problem. I am following the openstack install guide. | 10:45 |
| kopparam | http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/yum/content/nova-boot.html | 10:46 |
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| jaypipes | kopparam: and you followed this doc to set up networking? http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/yum/content/basics-networking.html | 10:47 |
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| kopparam | yes jaypipes | 10:47 |
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| kopparam | ndipanov: ping | 10:49 |
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| ndipanov | kopparam, sup | 10:49 |
| kopparam | I'm having problem with nova networks | 10:49 |
| ndipanov | kopparam, so I've heard | 10:49 |
| ndipanov | :) | 10:49 |
| kopparam | I can ping br100 but not the instances | 10:49 |
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| ndipanov | kopparam, well like I said - I'd make sure the instances are up | 10:50 |
| kopparam | Yes they are in active state | 10:50 |
| ndipanov | ping requires smth to respond to pings | 10:50 |
| shadyabhi | Hi everyone, I'm using RDO icehouse release. I can't seem to find | 10:50 |
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| ndipanov | so I'd check that first | 10:51 |
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| kopparam | OK. How can I check if the network of the guestOS is up? | 10:52 |
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| sphawk | hi, all. I encountered an error, the nova scheduler access mysql denied, but the connection url mysql:user:pass@address/nova works. | 10:52 |
| kopparam | ndipanov: I'm using the CirrOS image to test out the VMs. | 10:52 |
| ndipanov | you can check the console in the horizon | 10:52 |
| kopparam | sphawk: check the firewall on controller. It might be rejecting the requests. Check if you can telnet form outside to mysql on port 3306 | 10:53 |
| kopparam | ndipanov: OK. Ill check it | 10:54 |
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| sphawk | kopparam: I'll try it. | 10:55 |
| sgran | anyone working with the ubuntu cloud repo here ? | 10:56 |
| sphawk | but I don't know why, that nova should be controlling it within single server. I'm using RDO within a single server. | 10:56 |
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| sgran | I'm interested in using the same image for dev, test and prod, so I'd like to find a programmatic way to use the same image for vagrant as we use as an ami, but I can't find a nice way to map between the various files available | 10:56 |
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| kopparam | ndipanov: Hey! The instance id getting an IP of 10.4.x.x which is the range of the LAN connected to the compute and controller node. But nova list says the IP is 10.0.0.2 | 11:21 |
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| ndipanov | kopparam, you need to not be running dhcp on that network | 11:28 |
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| kopparam | ndipanov: OH! is there any way around that. It's not really a network that I can modify | 11:29 |
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| ndipanov | kopparam, not really - you need to let nova assign dhcp to instances | 11:31 |
| ndipanov | s/assign/do | 11:31 |
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| ashepelev | Hello, OpenStackers - where could I write a warning about the ubuntu 12.04 LTS OpenStack installation? | 14:17 |
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| _1_addy | hi | 15:07 |
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| ashepelev | Sam-I-Am: About installing OpenStack on Ubuntu 12.04. My config is a single NIC and several VLAN's : private, public and mgmt. The private vlans work great - they act as public (are visible for outside) but the floating IPs is worse: I couldn't ping them even from another node. The problem was in the rp_filter sysctl param, which must me set to zero in 12.04. If it's true it filtres packets if they come on one interface and come out from another | 15:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the installation guide sets those parameters | 15:11 |
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| ashepelev | Sam-I-Am: Oh, I didn't notice them, excuse me. Ahh, I spent so many time with that. Btw I installed it with devstack, maybe they should take it into account | 15:12 |
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| Sam-I-Am | devstack doesn't touch priv'd parameters | 15:13 |
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| telemonster | neutron, slow network performance to some outside hosts but not all | 15:15 |
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| ashepelev | Sam-I-Am: Ok, thank you. | 15:16 |
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| Sam-I-Am | telemonster: could be an ip offload issue | 15:18 |
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| Sam-I-Am | if you're using gre, at least | 15:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | or a pmtu problem | 15:18 |
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| telemonster | Sam-I-AM - that is exactly what it was | 15:28 |
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| telemonster | hah good call :-) Server is setup to shut it off, no idea why it was on again | 15:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yay | 15:29 |
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| telemonster | Does the offload stuff just get confused by the bridged traffic or something? | 15:29 |
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| telemonster | It was in our notes and my coworker found that it was on, even though local startup scripts turn it off | 15:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, its ip in ip | 15:30 |
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| Sam-I-Am | there are nics now that can accelerate vxlan, but not sure about gre | 15:30 |
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| telemonster | Too bad you can't push configs to a switch acting as neutron or something | 15:31 |
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| Sam-I-Am | like... offloading neutron things to real hardware? | 15:31 |
| telemonster | yea | 15:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | a number of vendors sell products to do that | 15:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | for the most part they handle vxlan | 15:32 |
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| telemonster | Crazy | 15:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | linux has some issues with doing crazy network stuff. just wasnt designed for it. | 15:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | switches arent going anywhere, so might as well try to enable those virtual networking features in hardware | 15:33 |
| telemonster | Right, gotta have one anyway | 15:35 |
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| crosebraugh | can anybody help me sort out an apparent bug in the neutron documentation? | 16:03 |
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| Sam-I-Am | such as? | 16:06 |
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| crosebraugh | when looking for documentation on neutron via google, i was linked to two separate guides on how to list the ports: an incorrect one (http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-network/2.0/content/GET_os-ports-v2.0_listPorts__v2.0__tenant_id__ports_ports.html) and a correct one (http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-network/2.0/content/List_Ports.html). the incorrect one says that you need to add the tenant_id as part of the uri (this isn't true on ha | 16:07 |
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| crosebraugh | as far as i can tell by looking at the doc, theres no way of knowing which release version documentation you are looking at. this needs to be split out, because there is a pretty big difference between these two versions | 16:08 |
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| Sam-I-Am | docs.openstack.org should contain the latest version | 16:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | in this case... http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-networking-v2.html | 16:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | but we know about the google problem | 16:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | it seems to be good at finding old docs | 16:09 |
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| crosebraugh | thats the problem. im running havana. im pretty new to this, but i dont think thats the latest version | 16:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | icehouse is the latest | 16:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | the APIs do not follow releases | 16:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | at least generally | 16:10 |
| crosebraugh | well in this case they do | 16:10 |
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| crosebraugh | because theres a big difference between "v2.0/ports" and "v2.0/{tenant-id}/ports" | 16:11 |
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| crosebraugh | does anybody know when the neutron api changed to require you to add the tenantid to the request uri? thatll be critical knowledge for what i am trying to do | 16:14 |
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| devoid | anyone know why nova network-create —vlan 123 … will randomly pick a different vlan? | 16:16 |
| devoid | ^ using nova-network and VlanManager. | 16:16 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Zucan: ping | 16:32 |
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| irated | Good Moin.. | 16:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yo | 16:35 |
| irated | Asking again anyone done GPU/PCIe Passthrough to openstack compute nodes? | 16:36 |
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| irated | Sam I know you answered yesterday | 16:36 |
| irated | but seeing if anyone else has any ideas | 16:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, nothing official : | 16:36 |
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| Sam-I-Am | might be a good thing to ask on ask.openstack.org or the mailing list | 16:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | pretty sure if the hypervisor gives access to the video card, you can use it for stuff | 16:36 |
| Gamekiller77 | KVM will do it | 16:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | sup Gamekiller77 | 16:37 |
| Gamekiller77 | I have looked in to it there setting in the nova.conf file | 16:37 |
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| Gamekiller77 | good man found the problem just not what code bad from my problem | 16:37 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the iptables problem? | 16:37 |
| Gamekiller77 | yup chains are not fully populated | 16:38 |
| Gamekiller77 | like they do not get put in all correctly | 16:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | is this in havana? | 16:38 |
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| Gamekiller77 | yah it is | 16:39 |
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| Gamekiller77 | so looks like the OVS agent on the compute nodes not writing out the iptables at all | 16:39 |
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| Gamekiller77 | L3 is looking ok i checked it | 16:39 |
| Gamekiller77 | i have the iptable -l | 16:40 |
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| Gamekiller77 | you can see the IP missing on an inbound tap | 16:40 |
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| dtrainor | Anyone using a config that uses different URLs for internal, external, and admin endpoints? | 17:33 |
| dtrainor | Different URLs supported by different DNS that identifies a different interface on each etc etc | 17:33 |
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| dtrainor | also, how common is it to put httpd in front of keystone? | 17:35 |
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| Zucan | What do you mean "put httpd in front of keystone"? | 17:37 |
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| Zucan | As an haproxy type deal? or do you mean as a replacement for keystone itself? | 17:37 |
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| dtrainor | For example, https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux_OpenStack_Platform/4/html-single/Installation_and_Configuration_Guide/index.html#Configuring_the_Identity_Service_to_Run_in_HTTPD | 17:39 |
| dtrainor | Am I understanding that function correctly? | 17:39 |
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| dtrainor | I mean is this a "thing" or is it just something that a Red Hat implementation could (does) do? | 17:39 |
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| Zucan | I didn't realize RedHat was doing it that way... good for them... | 17:41 |
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| Zucan | I can say that we have done that here as well, using similar methods... | 17:42 |
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| dtrainor | What's the advantage? Is that where you can tie in your H/A pieces? | 17:42 |
| Zucan | Since keystone isn't really thread-aware/safe and has issues in larger environments, going the httpd way solved it nicely | 17:42 |
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| dtrainor | ah ha | 17:43 |
| dtrainor | got it, thank you. | 17:43 |
| Zucan | Yeah, definitely can tie in the H/A pieces... but, you can deal with concurrency... | 17:43 |
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| dtrainor | So concurrency is one of the key reasons why you'd do this | 17:43 |
| Zucan | pong: Sam-I-Am | 17:43 |
| Zucan | sorry, just noticed your ping :) | 17:43 |
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| dtrainor | sooo on that note, that doc for example, sets public_port and admin_port to be the same. is there something special when that happens, or are two instances started to try and listen on the same port? | 17:45 |
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| dtrainor | wait, that's dumb. if i have httpd in front of it, i'd want httpd to listen on :443 | 17:46 |
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| Zucan | Right :) | 17:53 |
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| Zucan | Actually, you would have httpd listen on the keystone ports, right? It is acting as a replacement for the normal keystone service | 17:54 |
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| dtrainor | and have keystone listen on a different host/port? localhost even, I guess, huh | 17:55 |
| dtrainor | when I "talk Keystone" is it generally understood that I'm talking some port other than 80/443? | 17:55 |
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| Zucan | So, we are using Apache2 and it is listening on both keystone ports and port 80 | 17:55 |
| Zucan | So, 80, 5000, and 35357 | 17:55 |
| dtrainor | both keystone ports, 35357 and 5000? | 17:55 |
| dtrainor | ok | 17:55 |
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| dtrainor | Is it the wsgi component configuration in httpd that lets httpd talk to keystone without some forwarding hackery? | 17:56 |
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| dtrainor | sorry for the dumb questions, just trying to get a 100% grasp on this :) | 17:57 |
| Zucan | Looking. | 17:57 |
| Zucan | So, two virtual hosts... | 17:57 |
| Zucan | the port 5000 runs a keystone "main" CGI | 17:57 |
| Zucan | and the other runs a keystone "admin" CGI | 17:57 |
| Zucan | Somethign like: | 17:57 |
| Zucan | WSGIDaemonProcess keystone group=keystone processes=8 threads=1 user=keystone | 17:57 |
| Zucan | WSGIProcessGroup keystone | 17:57 |
| Zucan | WSGIScriptAlias / "/usr/lib/cgi-bin/keystone/main" | 17:57 |
| dtrainor | right | 17:57 |
| Zucan | "main" is https://raw.githubusercontent.com/openstack/keystone/c3b92295b718a41c3136876eb39297081015a97c/httpd/keystone.py | 17:58 |
| dtrainor | not being familiar with the wsgi component, there's no forwarding statement in it akin to mod_proxy's ProxyPass or anything, wsgi just executes keystone components straight-up | 17:58 |
| Zucan | admin is https://raw.githubusercontent.com/openstack/keystone/c3b92295b718a41c3136876eb39297081015a97c/httpd/keystone.py | 17:58 |
| dtrainor | riiiight, there we go. that's the glue. | 17:58 |
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| Zucan | Yup, you got it. | 17:59 |
| Zucan | And it works very well for us. | 17:59 |
| dtrainor | got it. that's what i was looking for. thank you very much, i appreciate it. | 17:59 |
| dtrainor | cool, glad to hear | 17:59 |
| Zucan | You are welcome... good luck with it... I think it is definitely a better solution than native keystone service. | 17:59 |
| dtrainor | do you provide isolated internal, external, and admin networks, to facilitate those respective endpoint URLs? | 17:59 |
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| Zucan | Nope :) Sorry, not that fancy here :) | 18:00 |
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| dtrainor | no worries | 18:00 |
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| dtrainor | looking for someone who does that | 18:00 |
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| Zucan | But if it is DNS, configuring views to point in one direction or another would be easy enjough, right? | 18:00 |
| Zucan | Just report a different IP based on location | 18:00 |
| dtrainor | I'd either do that, or I'd have an internal.domain.tld external.domain.tld and admin.domain.tld zone | 18:00 |
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| dtrainor | probably the latter because i'm an ahole like that | 18:01 |
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| ashishb | Hello Everyone, I am looking for evacuation support in openstack. | 18:01 |
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| ashishb | From what I could find, there are following two commands: | 18:01 |
| ashishb | 1. nova evacuate evacuated_server_name host_b --on-shared-storage | 18:01 |
| ashishb | 2. nova host-evacuate command | 18:01 |
| ashishb | However, both seem to have some downtime | 18:02 |
| ashishb | What I looking for is something like: | 18:02 |
| ashishb | 1. Host is put in a state, like maintenance mode, so that no new VMs are provisioned on it. | 18:02 |
| ashishb | 2. Do a live migration from this source host to any host chosen by the scheduler | 18:02 |
| ashishb | This way, there won't be a downtime for the VMs and the host can be removed / brought down for maintenance | 18:02 |
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| ashishb | Is there a way to achieve this in IceHouse .? | 18:02 |
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| dtrainor | cloud guide says there should be a 'nova live-migration' | 18:04 |
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| dtrainor | i don't see it in my ost4 env | 18:04 |
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| ashishb | potential problem while using 'nova live-migration' is it will not prevent the source host from getting picked-up for further deploys | 18:07 |
| dtrainor | oh, "Although the nova command is called live-migration, under the default Compute configuration options the instances are suspended before migration." | 18:07 |
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| dtrainor | 'nova help host-update' | 18:08 |
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| ashishb | I am fine with 'momentary' downtime of the VMs | 18:08 |
| dtrainor | i'm pretty new to openstack, just going through docs, maybe that'll help | 18:08 |
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| ashishb | to put it simply, is there a way to prevent any further deploys on the selected host, while it can still perform live-migration of it's VMs to other available hosts ..? | 18:09 |
| dtrainor | did you look at that host-update command? | 18:09 |
| ashishb | checking .. | 18:09 |
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| dtrainor | i'm new to openstack but i've been successfully interpreting documentation for decades :) | 18:10 |
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| ashishb | I am not sure if a host it put to disable / maintenance mode, can it still be used to trigger live-migration | 18:12 |
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| dtrainor | gotta follow the docs, sorry | 18:13 |
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| ashishb | need to try it practically to see that, not very clear from the documentation | 18:13 |
| dtrainor | i can't test it right this second | 18:13 |
| dtrainor | yep | 18:13 |
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| dtrainor | understood | 18:13 |
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| ashishb | I'll try it to check it .. | 18:13 |
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| lrr | holy crap, nova + lvm is insanely fast for vm deployment | 18:14 |
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| lrr | :) | 18:14 |
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| guitarzan | hi folks, I have a keystone question... what is supposed to happen if you have two endpoints of the same service type in a region? | 19:16 |
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| badams | does anyone know how the computefilter for nova-scheduler works? | 20:06 |
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| badams | ok. does anyone know why the ComputeFilter would return 0 hosts when all the other filters return the correct number? | 20:17 |
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| dsmith | hello, I am looking at this diagram here http://varchitectthoughts.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/openstack-arch-grizzly-v1-logical.jpg and I am trying to figure out what networks the various services use to talk to eachother on via the respective endpoints | 20:35 |
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| dsmith | can anyone shed a little light on this for me | 20:35 |
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| dtrainor | Cinder storage, would you expect that to be running on a controller or more a compute node? | 20:39 |
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| dtrainor | If "cinder is on my controller" does that mean my compute nodes are going to be reading and writing to the disk that my instance is using, over the network? | 20:39 |
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| dsmith | Anyone | 20:42 |
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| sc68cal | dsmith: there is a good diagram for that on the neutron side, let me find it | 20:42 |
| dsmith | Can anyone tell me about the public and private api endpoints in openstack | 20:42 |
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| sc68cal | dsmith: http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/network-connectivity.html | 20:43 |
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| sc68cal | regarding private url vs public url in the keystone endpoint list - not sure | 20:46 |
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| sc68cal | I guess if you have dual homed API servers | 20:46 |
| jjkq | hi folks, I have a question on default security groups. Is there a way to disable creation of default security groups in Nova/Neutron? | 20:46 |
| dtrainor | dsmith, I'd say they're exactly what thye sound like | 20:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | dsmith: we also have this http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/install-guide/install/apt/content/ch_overview.html#architecture_example-architectures | 20:47 |
| dtrainor | maybe you expose the API publically, and also the API privately, they're each handled by different routing/rules/firewalls etc | 20:47 |
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| dsmith | so let me just say this | 20:47 |
| sc68cal | jjkq: the default security group on the neutron side is required, since it has the egress ACL | 20:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | jjkq: you can disable enforcement of them | 20:47 |
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| Sam-I-Am | but ymmv | 20:47 |
| dsmith | how can I say this | 20:47 |
| dsmith | if I do a keystone endpoint-list | 20:48 |
| jjkq | Sam-I-Am: cool. how can I disable them? | 20:48 |
| dsmith | I see all my endpoints on my publicly facing subnet | 20:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | dsmith: you can set endpoints on different networks | 20:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | for example, maybe you want your users to access user-level API stuff | 20:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | so you put your public endpoint there | 20:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | the admin endpoint stays on some sort of internal management network | 20:48 |
| dsmith | ok that makes sense. But what about the actual services like | 20:49 |
| dsmith | nova-compute when it wants to whatever service on the controller that determines that resources are available on that box | 20:49 |
| dsmith | where nova-compute lives. It looks like it talks to an api directly, OR does it send messages to a broker system | 20:49 |
| dsmith | and communicates over that network | 20:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | depends on what itsdoing | 20:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | for launching an intstance, much of it hits the message broker | 20:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | networking is API, at least with neutron | 20:50 |
| dsmith | I guess im still confuses about the difference between the api endpoints and the messaging broker in openstack | 20:50 |
| jjkq | Sam-I-Am: sc68cal : The problem I see with default security group is that it does not get deleted even if I delete the tenant :( | 20:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | jjkq: so how is this a problem? | 20:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | dsmith: api endpoints are generally things that anything can interact with... for example, custom scripts | 20:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the MQ is used more for internal things | 20:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | it should not be outward facing | 20:51 |
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| jjkq | Sam-I-Am: there is data which is dangling. Essentially those default security group entries are never removed from database. | 20:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | oh, so this is more of an administrative cruft issue, not an operational issue | 20:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | in other words, something isnt cleaning up? | 20:52 |
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| jjkq | Sam-I-Am: correct. Never gets cleaned up from DB. That's why I would rather disable default sec group. | 20:53 |
| jjkq | Sam-I-Am: but I do not how to do it. | 20:53 |
| sc68cal | dsmith: the API endpoints are for users to use | 20:53 |
| sc68cal | (some openstack components are users of other openstack components) | 20:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | jjkq: sounds like a bug? | 20:54 |
| dsmith | ahhh ok I thought the various api endpoints are used by openstack services internally | 20:54 |
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| dsmith | as well as being accessible from users directly | 20:54 |
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| sc68cal | dsmith: No, the message broker is used intra-service. For example, Nova uses the message broker for RPC calls between the nova service and nova computes | 20:54 |
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| jjkq | Sam-I-Am: definitely a bug. :) But can I workaround it? | 20:55 |
| sc68cal | Neutron server to Neutron agents, etc | 20:55 |
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| sc68cal | dsmith: When Nova talks to Neutron to create ports, etc - it uses the neutron API endpoint | 20:55 |
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| Sam-I-Am | jjkq: did you see if its a known bug? | 20:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | jjkq: do sec groups take up a lot of space? | 20:56 |
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| sc68cal | dsmith: So usually there are at least two networks in a deployment - the API endpoint network (usually called the management network), then the network for vms | 20:56 |
| jjkq | Sam-I-Am: honestly, I haven't looked up launchpad yet. This messes up my parsing engine with data which is not referenced to any tenant. Not at all about space. | 20:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | ahhh | 20:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | sc68cal: do you have an answer for jjkq? | 20:57 |
| sc68cal | The problem is that deleting a tenant is a keystone API operation | 20:57 |
| jjkq | Sam-I-Am: if I could disable, it would be a good workaround. | 20:58 |
| dsmith | so the broker can live on the management network | 20:58 |
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| sc68cal | dsmith: yes usually it does | 20:58 |
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| dsmith | because I think lots of traffic will be passed to the broker | 20:58 |
| dsmith | so I always associate it with management | 20:58 |
| sc68cal | dsmith: I think some people may break it out further into 3 nets | 20:58 |
| dsmith | ok so my api endpoints INTERNALLY should be on the managment network | 20:58 |
| sc68cal | dsmith: API endpoint net, tenant traffic, and then a net for the broker | 20:59 |
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| sc68cal | dsmith: if they don't use firewall ACLs to limit access to the broker | 20:59 |
| jjkq | sc68cal: default sec grp created implicitly and never deleted(even forcefully). So if user is given a choice not a to create it or be able to delete it. | 20:59 |
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| jjkq | sc68cal: that would be a good workaround as I understand Keystone will not be able to recursively delete all the items. | 21:00 |
| sc68cal | jjkq: the difficulty is that the default security group is a requirement, per the design of the API | 21:00 |
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| jjkq | sc68cal: okay :( ..looks like I will have to my parsing engine to workaround it. Thanks for the responses. | 21:01 |
| jjkq | sc68cal: have to hack my* | 21:02 |
| sc68cal | jjkq: Yes - you should query out the tenants from keystone | 21:02 |
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| sc68cal | jjkq: and keep that handy when you're parsing | 21:02 |
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| sc68cal | I think it is worth pinging the keystone devs though to see about that case, of a tenant being deleted, how do we do resource cleanup | 21:03 |
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| jjkq | sc68cal: thats what i have already been doing. By my manager doesn't like hacks. (Hopes he doesnt see my chat :P) now I have reason to justify my hack. | 21:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats what i was wondering | 21:03 |
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| dtrainor | Does the openvswitch service need to run on a compute node, or just neutron-openvswitch-agent? | 21:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | all the per-tenant stuff should go | 21:03 |
| sc68cal | dtrainor: just the agent | 21:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | does keystone prod each service to notify about a deletion? | 21:04 |
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| sc68cal | dtrainor: the openvswitch plugin just runs on the controller node | 21:04 |
| dtrainor | oh ok | 21:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | erm | 21:04 |
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| sc68cal | Sam-I-Am: I don't know if keystone does notify about deletion | 21:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | dtrainor: openvswitch runs on the compute node as a dependency of the agent | 21:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | it also runs on the network node | 21:05 |
| dtrainor | got it. | 21:05 |
| jjkq | Sam-I-Am: keystone does not make any API call to Neutron/Nova/ etc to cleanup at all. If you go to DB, you will just see tenant_id reference go blank. | 21:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | however, the controller just runs the plug-in | 21:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | it does not handle neutron traffic | 21:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | jjkq: so if you delete a tenant, do its networks stick around too? | 21:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | i would hope the instances disappear | 21:05 |
| jjkq | Sam-I-Am: correct. everything sticks around. VMs, Networks, Volumes.. | 21:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hummm, i wonder if thats there for accounting purposes | 21:06 |
| dtrainor | trying to ovs-vsctl add-br andit's complaining about the database socket not being present. i'm trying to use gre through a compute node. that's why I was asking about the 'openvswitch' service, because ovs is what opens that database up | 21:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | just like old tokens unless you explicitly delete them | 21:06 |
| sc68cal | dtrainor: That database socket may be the ovsdb service | 21:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | dtrainor: make sure ovs is running | 21:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | dtrainor: which distro/ver? | 21:07 |
| sc68cal | ^ +1 | 21:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | better yet, kernel ver | 21:07 |
| dtrainor | rhel6, openstack 4 | 21:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | 4? | 21:07 |
| dtrainor | euh | 21:07 |
| sc68cal | 2014.4 ? | 21:08 |
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| Sam-I-Am | icehouse is 9 | 21:08 |
| dtrainor | sorry forgot if it's icehouse or havanah | 21:08 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mmkay | 21:08 |
| dtrainor | 9? | 21:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | with rhel you dont need to build the kernel module for openvswitch | 21:08 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so... if you installed the openvswitch package, it should work (assuming you enabled it and started it) | 21:08 |
| bzzeigler | Sam-I-Am, what distro do you use for your Openstack cluster? | 21:09 |
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| dtrainor | so ovdb-server and ovs-vswitchd should *only* be running on a network node? these don't need to run on compute nodes? | 21:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | bzzeigler: i use many because i maintain the install guide | 21:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | dtrainor: no, they should be running on both | 21:09 |
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| bzzeigler | Sam-I-Am, ahh, would you say any one is easier to build/maintain than the others? | 21:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | any place that runs ovs needs all of those services going | 21:09 |
| dtrainor | ok, so that means the 'openvswitch' service needs to run on all nodes | 21:09 |
| dtrainor | not just the agent | 21:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | bzzeigler: ubuntu seems marginally better supported than the others | 21:10 |
| dtrainor | <sc68cal> dtrainor: just the agent | 21:10 |
| dtrainor | lies | 21:10 |
| dtrainor | damn dirty lies | 21:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | dtrainor: the agent's dependency is the ovs daemons | 21:10 |
| dtrainor | i'll run it, thanks - one sec | 21:10 |
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| dtrainor | ah ok | 21:10 |
| bzzeigler | Sam-I-Am, good to hear, I was thinking about making the switch to Ubuntu, if not just for testing sake | 21:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think what he meant is you dont need the l3 or dhcp agents on the compute node | 21:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | at some point any distro seems to have its issues | 21:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | time to pack up.. bus has reached destination | 21:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | back in in a bit | 21:12 |
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| dtrainor | hot. i think i'm past that now. | 21:12 |
| dtrainor | thanks guys. | 21:12 |
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| dtrainor | "the controller" doesn't need any openvswitch bits right? it lives independently of my neutron network host | 21:13 |
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| fawadkhaliq | jjkq: yes, this is a known issue with keystone. let me see if there is bug tracking this, if not I will file it. | 21:15 |
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| fawadkhaliq | sc68cal: Sam-I-Am: jjkq: Just saw there is bp tracking it-> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/tenant-delete | 21:17 |
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| sc68cal | fawadkhaliq: niiiiceeee :) | 21:18 |
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| hypergrove | hi - just got an ip for my new server installed. SSH working fine, HTTP working too. But now keystone won't start argh! Could someone take a moment to look at the config material at http://paste.openstack.org/show/85275/ ?? | 21:29 |
| hypergrove | Until this point I've been using 192 addresses.... | 21:29 |
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| hypergrove | oh my didnt update etc/hosts ... trying again | 21:31 |
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| Sam-I-Am | back | 21:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | dtrainor: the controller just needs the plug-in, no agents | 21:40 |
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| hypergrove | ok working now - sometime pasting things makes you see errors! thanks | 21:47 |
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| dtrainor | cool thanks Sam-I-Am | 21:51 |
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| dtrainor | Should I just use the same neutron.conf across all my compute and neutron network node? basically anything that needs access to that gre setup huh | 21:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | its pretty close | 21:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | however, the network and compute nodes dont need db access | 21:54 |
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| dtrainor | oh ok. | 21:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | theres subtle differences | 21:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | but iirc, nothing critical | 21:54 |
| dtrainor | i was under the impression that there were no neutron bits on the controller | 21:54 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the server runs there | 21:56 |
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| dtrainor | which server? | 21:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | the neutron server | 21:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | its the administrative component of neutron | 21:58 |
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| dtrainor | ah hah. | 21:59 |
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| dtrainor | i haven't found a doc that shows which services/components are "supposed" to be ran on a specific node type. have you seen one? | 22:00 |
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| dtrainor | like, "controller usually runs services xyz, network usually runs ab, computes run def" | 22:00 |
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| Sam-I-Am | dtrainor: yeah | 22:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | its in the install guide | 22:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | under 'example architecture' | 22:06 |
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| dtrainor | perfect. thank you. | 22:13 |
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| LiveOne | HEY | 22:38 |
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| hypergrove | newbie q: trying openstack via devstack on a new server with one external ip installed. my isp says i need to install a 'forward dns' server I guess to handle multiple domains and subdomains I will be servicing. Is Designate the thing for me to install now?. | 22:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hypergrove: doubt it | 22:55 |
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| hypergrove | Sam-I-Am, thank you for replying -- what dns should i install then | 22:56 |
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| hypergrove | or a pointer to dox would be cool too don't want to take up your time | 22:56 |
| hypergrove | (also don't want to step on openstack's internal dns) | 22:58 |
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| hypergrove | that is dnsmasq | 22:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | what are you trying to accomplish? | 23:00 |
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| hypergrove | i want to prepare the system for being a forward-dns (as I think its called); for handling multiple domains; and for handling multiple subdomains | 23:09 |
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| hypergrove | (does nova-dns handle all this?) | 23:10 |
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| hypergrove | should i install BIND as a separate server from openstack servers? | 23:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so... | 23:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | you wouldnt be deploying anything production in devstack | 23:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | are you trying to offer dns services to customers? | 23:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | or do you just need a domain name to resolve to something | 23:16 |
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| hypergrove | i have several wikis to put up, each with a subdomain. I don't yet have the domain root itself setup in public DNS -- that's my task | 23:18 |
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| hypergrove | perhaps another aproach is to setup a BIND server at aws? | 23:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | subdomains are usually handled by the virtual hosts in your web server | 23:21 |
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| Sam-I-Am | but if you dont already have dns, you'd need to run bind, or use someone's dns | 23:21 |
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| hypergrove | okay. And why do you forewarn against devstack 'in production'? thanks | 23:22 |
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| Sam-I-Am | because it only runs once | 23:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | rather, its ephemeral | 23:29 |
| Sam-I-Am | and it also uses unstable code | 23:29 |
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| hypergrove | thanks, much appreciated | 23:41 |
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