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| xarses | hrm =/. First time trying out ml2 plugin format, I was able to create networks, and routers as expected however after creating a security group and trying to boot it i get "Security group ... not found for project ... " http://paste.openstack.org/show/85545/ | 04:06 |
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| xarses | hrm, nova net-list is empty but neutron net-list is populated | 04:10 |
| xarses | nova secgroup-list is populated only with default, neutron security-group-list is correct | 04:10 |
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| ram_ | Hi any one there who could clarify my doubts with SDN and openstack | 16:27 |
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| Diplomat | hey guys, can you tell me are there any programs that can monitor vms bandwidth usage? | 18:17 |
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| none25 | I've worked with OpenStack for 2 years but I still don't believe I have a good understanding of how the various services are talking to eachother within the cloud. I have looked this diagram http://docs.openstack.org/training-guides/content/figures/5/figures/openstack-arch-havana-logical-v1.jpg and it . I was ust wondering f anyone could give me some good tips on where to start | 18:50 |
| none25 | in trying to follow the rabbit hole of interactions all these services have with eachother | 18:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | that diagram is scary | 19:14 |
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| ekarlso | Sam-I-Am: and nothing compared to juno >p | 19:34 |
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| none25 | I guess I'm always trying to know enough to troubleshoot a problem | 19:37 |
| none25 | but you know it's like where do you start if you look at a diagram like that | 19:37 |
| none25 | I remember seeing issues in the dashboard like "can't obtain quota list" | 19:37 |
| none25 | and it turns out to be a quantum issue | 19:37 |
| none25 | so I'm thinking to myself what does a project quote have to do with the quantum service | 19:38 |
| none25 | drives me crazy | 19:38 |
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| none25 | just wish I knew how it was talking | 19:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | different services provide quotes | 19:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | quotas | 19:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | so maybe horizon only had a problem poking at neutron | 19:41 |
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| none25 | any number associated with quota wasnt displayed | 20:07 |
| none25 | ram, hard drive space, cpus etc | 20:07 |
| none25 | I didnt think any of that had to do with neutron | 20:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i think you can limit the number of networks | 20:08 |
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| none25 | Maybe the code says if one of the quotas like number of networks a tenant can create isnt retrieved, then don't populate the rest of the quotas | 20:08 |
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| deuterium | hi, if i want to run openstack productively on my server, is it advisable to go for ubuntu lts, then install maas? | 23:24 |
| deuterium | i want to have a solid base that is easy to maintain (i.e. like debian, ubuntu, ...), with openstack on top that is as standards-compliant and full-featured as possible | 23:26 |
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| deuterium | i.e. it would be nice that i can also use virtual networking.. and both kvm based virtual machines and lxc based ones | 23:27 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ubuntu is a good choice | 23:27 |
| deuterium | i've installed ubuntu lts and maas on it, but i don't really understand what that "maas" part is good for... i thought i would have to install openstack, not maas | 23:28 |
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| deuterium | Sam-I-Am: thx | 23:28 |
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| deuterium | also, is btrfs a good choice for the underlying file system? i originally wanted to go for something like zfs, but since zfs is an advisable option for solaris and freebsd only, i guess it's not possible to combine it with openstack | 23:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | i dont have much experience with btrfs. if you want to run swift, i think xfs is recommended | 23:32 |
| deuterium | xfs, really? hm.. i guess that's for really big object stores then? | 23:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i guess. not my forte. | 23:38 |
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| jidar | it is indeed recommended for xfs | 23:40 |
| jidar | btrfs isn't quite stable yet, though it may be mostly/sorta stable by now as of kernel 3.10 | 23:41 |
| jidar | people don't really want to push stuff that's only been stable for a few months | 23:41 |
| deuterium | jidar: ok, thanks for sharing your view | 23:41 |
| * deuterium will not use btrfs then | 23:42 | |
| deuterium | i only used it to set up a test installation in a vm.. fingers crossed | 23:42 |
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| jidar | as far as standards compliant, the RDO stuff from RHEL is fairly put together, that being said I wouldn't recommend it if you're not a cent/rhel guy | 23:43 |
| deuterium | somehow, bit-rotting makes me nervous though.. particularly if a whole virtual infrastructure is affected.. that's why i would have liked to have zfs at the bottom | 23:43 |
| deuterium | jidar: i'm more a .deb guy ;) | 23:44 |
| jidar | that's a.... uhh.. wildly unshared opinion | 23:44 |
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| Hell_Lap | yeh, testwise it's okay, I wouldn't touch it for it's own internal raid5/6 support yet, the error handling isn't there yet, though I'm running it in mirror and it's been okay through a few drive failures now | 23:44 |
| jidar | Hell_Lap: I've had it crash with what I'd call little shoving | 23:45 |
| jidar | Hell_Lap: but yea, I'm waiting until I start pushing it anywhere | 23:45 |
| jidar | xfs on the other hand has been around for like, 15 years | 23:45 |
| deuterium | Hell_Lap: well, in the vm i also use it above a sw raid-1 and lvm | 23:45 |
| deuterium | jidar: it's just that i associate xfs with many tb of data.. i would want to put all openstack components on one physical server for now, though | 23:46 |
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| Hell_Lap | yeah, I've been running it in "dev" on a debian jessie box (3.14) and it handles the load okay, been pretty rare on lockups now thankfully | 23:47 |
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| deuterium | and first, on top of 120 gb intel s3500 ssd hw raid | 23:47 |
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| parkJune_ | Wow | 23:47 |
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| deuterium | parkJune_: ? | 23:47 |
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| Hell_Lap | had load averages up into the 40s with it and it's kept on rocking through scrubs, been hard to fault it recently :) | 23:48 |
| parkJune_ | I am very happy for know this chat site | 23:48 |
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| Hell_Lap | (on about as ghetto of a setup as you can have, LSI SAS card with just a heap of consumer cheapy SATA drives attached :P) | 23:48 |
| deuterium | Hell_Lap: are you talking about btrfs or xfs? | 23:49 |
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| Hell_Lap | btrfs | 23:49 |
| deuterium | ok | 23:49 |
| deuterium | well, actually i thought it would be designed to be quite fault-tolerant | 23:50 |
| Hell_Lap | xfs is solid though, and what I use production, just make sure your UPS can handle it, and go sync if it even looks like you may crash during writes :) | 23:50 |
| deuterium | uh ok | 23:50 |
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| Hell_Lap | when xfs goes bad, it usually goes really bad, but that's like anything | 23:51 |
| Hell_Lap | but yeah, btrfs in whatever debian wheezy is shipping, 3.4 or something earlier, is just a bit old, and quite nasty | 23:52 |
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| Hell_Lap | been a lot of fixes :) | 23:52 |
| deuterium | i see | 23:53 |
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| deuterium | maybe i should go for plain old ext4 | 23:53 |
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| Hell_Lap | hehe, play around with them, see what'll suit you best, but test the failure cases, like loss of power, etc | 23:55 |
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| deuterium | Hell_Lap: k, thx | 23:58 |
| Hell_Lap | try to break it before you settle on anything :) see how it acts when broken | 23:58 |
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