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dgbaleyHey. I'm trying to enable SSL -- for keystone to start at least. I have keystone only requests working, but other stuff like nova is breaking. I'm thinking it has to do with [keystone_authtoken] sections in other configs. I can't find any reference about how to set these up for SSL -- most importantly, what the setting is for specifying the ca certificate.03:01
akconverted a vmdk to qcow2. when trying to create a instance getting error "qemu-img: 'image' uses a qcow2 feature which is not supported by this qemu version"  Operation not supported\n"03:02
akwhen using compat=1.0 it's giving error Invalid compatibility level: '1.003:02
akqemu-img ii  qemu-utils                                  1.0+noroms-0ubuntu14.1                      qemu utilities03:03
akany help ?03:03
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f0urtyfivehola... curious how people automate server deployments against openstack... some kind of middleware, or maybe an "orchestration" box that has the openstack clients + puppet, then puppeting against that?03:35
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Sam-I-Amf0urtyfive: what?03:37
f0urtyfiveSam-I-Am: what what03:37
Sam-I-Amautomate deployments on which openstack runs, or deployments of cloud servers?03:37
f0urtyfiveah, sorry, servers which are provisioned on top of openstack03:38
f0urtyfiveie, click a button and redeploy all my VMs03:38
Sam-I-Amuse heat?03:38
f0urtyfiveoh havent seen that before... can it run against essex?03:39
Sam-I-Ami dont think so03:39
Sam-I-Amessex is ancient history03:39
f0urtyfiveunfortunately I dont have any control in that area03:40
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f0urtyfiveoh wow, didnt realize it was THAT old03:41
f0urtyfivehrm I do have an option between essex or havana, maybe I'll get some havana provisioned03:42
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Sam-I-Amheat is available with havana03:43
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ak@f0urtyfive, you can use ansible with openstack.. for automatiing03:52
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f0urtyfiveak: with? What does that look like... I mean I use puppet for managing servers, I just need some mechanism to actually create and configure virtual hardware03:53
f0urtyfiveie, manage floating IPs and whatnot03:53
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akhttp://docs.ansible.com/list_of_cloud_modules.html check out the nova, glance, quantum, modules ..03:56
f0urtyfiveinteresting03:57
f0urtyfivealthough I dont think I could convince anyone to use puppet for hosts and ansible for creeating hosts :D03:57
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akwhatever you can do with puppet, can be done via ansible.. I am not trying to convince,  but this is my thought and the best thing  agentless and uses ssh03:58
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akany help on the qcow2 conversion issue :04:06
akconverted a vmdk to qcow2. when trying to create a instance getting error "qemu-img: 'image' uses a qcow2 feature which is not supported by this qemu version"  Operation not supported\n04:06
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ak qemu-img ii  qemu-utils                                  1.0+noroms-0ubuntu14.1                      qemu utilities04:06
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koapsdoes anyone know how to create a cinder volume and attach it to a instance when using vcenter? it seems like the instance has to be shutdown first04:24
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sldi know of no one using vcenter for anything openstack at all, so sorry, can't help personally, but hopefully someone around can answer you.04:28
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datahi, I have some problem with the setup of my noVNC. I currently get the error message "invalid token", but am not sure how best to debug this06:07
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sumitI have problem in using cosbench with swift for larger requests06:36
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datahi, I have some problem with the setup of my noVNC. I currently get the error message "invalid token", but am not sure how best to debug this. For some reason, there is a n-cauth running on everyhost07:01
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akafter conversion of VMDK to qcow2, when an instance is built it fails to boot into the OS. get stuck at mountroot..07:26
akany pointers07:26
ArminderSwhich OS? does it have virtio drivers support in-built?07:27
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akFreeBSD..07:28
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ak@Arminder, how do I verify if ift has virtio drivers support in-built ?07:29
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ArminderSwhich version of freebsd?07:34
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ArminderSif it doesn't have virtio drivers support, it won't find the drive07:35
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bellowsI was wondering if anyone know of a program for keeping track of dvds(movies) you own not talking about media or files on the computer. Notepad or excel willn't work. Need to be able touse on two different computers. I am looking for something like Shelves app but for windows07:46
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ak@Arminder 8.408:08
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decciAnyone who have knowledge of vlan switch spoofing08:25
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sikor_sxehello, what could be wrong if nova delete times out09:19
sikor_sxeor rather: what can i do about it? (i'm running mirantis icehouse)09:19
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JulienFlexHi guys, i'm looking for neutronclient documentation. Is it the only existing ? http://docs.openstack.org/developer/python-neutronclient/09:57
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Dev_JinI have a question related to nova-networking.. how to create a topology with guest VMs having multple NICs (say eth0 and eth1) and host VM having single NIC (say em0) ?10:20
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Dev_Jinone more aspect is.. this have to work with multiple compute nodes.. VM on any compute node should able to communicate with VMs on other compute node10:21
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Simon_singis there anyone who has a working setup for openstack, activedirectory and kerberos? I can't make it work. I'm hosting Keystone vai wsgi in Apache already, but some weird stuff appeared (/admin/v2.0 path was missing somehow, when it was hosted using wsgi and mapped from port to path inside apache)11:08
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Simon_singi would be graeteful for some tips how to make it work, cos right now I have a feeling I'm reading and testing over and over again same posts from AYoung and new errors pop up...11:10
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rsmittyHi all - Does anyone know of a good guide on implementing hooks? I found this write-up but it's pretty sparse: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/devref/hooks.html13:21
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ayoungSimon_sing, you still there?14:01
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tejuhttps://ask.openstack.org/en/question/43798/how-to-ajax-update-multiple-rows-in-a-horizon-table-based-on-the-selected-value-in-the-drop-down-list/14:04
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tejuis there any way we can ajax update multiple rows in the horizon data table at the same time?14:06
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muraikiis there a place where I can see all the valid options for nova metadata? I found information on how to set / view metadata in the docs, but not a list of available settings.14:23
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georgem2muraiki: are you looking for this? http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/config-reference/content/list-of-compute-config-options.html#config_table_nova_common14:26
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georgem2muraiki: Table 2.36. Description of configuration options for metadata14:26
muraikithanks so much! I was looking in the openstack cloud administrator guide, which was apparently the wrong place :)14:27
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muraikioh, this actually isn't quite what I was looking for14:28
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georgem2muraiki:if you restart the nova-api service with debug and verbose enabled in nova.conf, you'll see all the config options in use, including the default values which might not be listed anywhere else14:29
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georgem2muraiki: what do you have in mind?14:29
muraikiI'm looking for the valid metadata options for an instance14:29
muraikihere's what I was reading: http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/section_metadata-service.html14:29
muraikiyou can see some json examples with fields like hostname and launch_index14:30
muraikiI was wondering if there is a reference that lists all of the possible fields14:30
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muraikialthough now I'm wondering if 'vendordata_driver = nova.api.metadata.vendordata_json.JsonFileVendorData' might be what I need to look into14:30
muraikias a nova config option14:31
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rsmittyHi all - Does anyone know of a good guide on implementing hooks? I found this write-up but it's pretty sparse: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/devref/hooks.html14:35
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muraikigeorgem2: hrm, I think a problem is that my sysadmin might not have set up metadata. I was getting version info back from the first curl command, but I get 404s on the second listed command when I try any of the listed versions I got back14:44
georgem2muraiki:afaik, Openstack implements two metadata APIs: the EC2 compatible API reachable at http://169.254.169.254/latest/meta-data14:44
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muraikiyeah, that link is broken for me14:44
muraikilooks like we have some other setup to do before I try this :)14:44
georgem2muraiki:and the Openstack native metadata API, reachable from the instance at http://169.254.169.254/openstack/2013-10-1714:45
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muraikithanks for helping; I should have tried more of what was listed in the docs before asking14:45
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georgem2muraiki:make sure the "enabled_apis" config option in nova.conf lists "ec2" and you should see something like this line logged: INFO nova.ec2.wsgi.server [-] (13838) wsgi starting up on http://0.0.0.0:8773/14:48
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muraikiI got it working, thanks!14:56
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muraikiso yeah, I think that the available options for metadata are simply whatever options cloud-init supports14:56
muraikisince cloud-init is what reads the metadata and actually does stuff with it14:57
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georgem2muraiki:welcome14:57
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fyb3rSo im trying to find a way to automate instance creation after a user clicks a button on an html form. Any ideas or links to a tutorial on how I would pull this off?15:31
fyb3rIm thinking of finding a way to have said button generate a python script on the server to go through and create it15:32
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muraikifyb3r: you can construct your own api to act as an intermediary api between your web application and openstack. your web application invokes your api, which calls the appropriate combinations of openstack apis15:45
fyb3rkk so im on the right track. ty muraiki15:46
muraikialternatively, I think that there's some kind of openstack automation package available / in the works, and you could use that instead of the openstack api15:47
fyb3rim currently trying to come up with a way to use django to tie into the python cli's of each and work them into horizon's display15:47
fyb3rprinted out all the horizon code friday lol. went over it all weekend to figure out all the classes and what not15:48
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fyb3rmy main goal will probably be to make it viable as an opensource pack and hopefully release it for public use as well ^_^15:49
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muraikifyb3r: you might not want to rely on the python cli's -- for instance, the keystone client has no support for identity v3 and it appears will not receive support for it anytime soon15:56
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fyb3rah, crap lol15:56
muraikithere is a unified client that is being worked on, iiuc15:57
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mrprohi http://youtu.be/irUzEUJOB0016:00
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fyb3rany idea on when that will be released muraiki?16:00
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muraikifyb3r: it's available in some incomplete form already, but I don't know the ETA16:02
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muraikiyou might be better off trying this: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat16:03
muraikibut I have no idea as to what state the project is in in terms of api coverage16:03
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muraikithe best options are probably to either use some kind of orchestration software like heat or else use the openstack apis directly16:04
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Leeloo_Hi16:08
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muraikihi16:11
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fyb3rIve got heat working, i didnt know you could tie it into a browser though16:13
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fyb3rill look more into using heat16:13
muraikiyou would tie it in using its api16:13
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muraikibut glancing at its api, I don't think it will do what you want it to do after all. sorry.16:14
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fyb3rive also looked into maybe tying juju into openstack to see fi that will do what im after16:15
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Leeloo_I installed Havana (all in one) on a bare-metal server (with one NIC eth0) + 1 public ip 6.32.41.21 + severals others for floating-ip, but my newly build instance can't reach the net. See my neutron network config --> http://paste.openstack.org/show/88184/16:18
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maletillaLeeloo_: you got it wrong17:06
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Leeloo_maletilla: can you tell me more ? :)17:07
maletillayeah17:07
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maletillalet me look for a diagram that explains the network setup17:08
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fyb3rTheres one in the ops manual17:08
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maletillaare these IP addresses supposed to be public ?  6.120.200.161 --> 6.120.200.16617:10
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Leeloo_maletilla: yes they are (from a RIPE bloc) , from OVH provider17:11
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maletillabut you are defining your host's ip address as the default gateway17:12
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Leeloo_mate17:15
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maletillathat gateway is outside the subnet, the default gateway has to be in the same address range as the one assigned by your provider.17:15
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devoidanyone here understand why I might be able to list an image in glance v1/images/details but not actually get the image with the same API call?17:15
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Leeloo_maletilla: I'm quite new at this, I not a ops/network guy :(17:15
devoide.g. v1/images/detail?sort_key=name&sort_dir=asc&limit=20 shows the image17:15
devoidbut v1/images/detail?sort_key=name&sort_dir=asc&limit=20&marker=<uuid> returns "400: Image could not be found" for that UUID?17:16
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Leeloo_maletilla: so I have to assign an Ip from that range to the erver ? Add an eth0:0 , sommething like this ?17:16
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maletillano idea, I am rather spoiled and have everything much simpler, but let's take a look17:17
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maletilla6.32.41.21  is the external network interface of your server, right ?17:19
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csrockstar_Is anybody familiar with Boost rtree remove function http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_55_0/libs/geometry/doc/html/geometry/reference/spatial_indexes/group__rtree__functions.html I want to remove elements from it in different ways17:20
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Leeloo_maletilla: right17:21
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maletillaand they told you, to give addresses from 6.120.200.161 -> 166  to your VM guests?17:22
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maletillaas public IP addresses17:23
Leeloo_maletilla: yes, theses IP adresse are routed to my server17:23
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maletillaok, I see ...17:26
maletillalet me scrible at my desk to put my head around it.17:26
Leeloo_maletilla: in frecnh but you will see --> https://www.ovh.com/fr/serveurs_dedies/blocs_ip_ripe.xml17:26
Leeloo_maletilla: ok, thanks ;)17:26
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maletillaLeeloo_: can you reach your server's ip from the router?17:30
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Leeloo_maletilla: can you be more precise, detail ?17:31
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maletillacan you execute the command : ip netns17:37
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maletillait should show a qrouter-098eb6b9-4829-4699-83fa-e239334b17c5 entry17:37
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Leeloo_maletilla: yes, there one line with this17:39
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maletillamy French really sucks17:40
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Leeloo_maletilla: do you need me to run others cmd ?17:47
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georgem2maletilla: https://www.ovh.co.uk/dedicated_servers/ripe_ip_block.xml17:48
maletillaip netns exec qrouter-098eb6b9-4829-4699-83fa-e239334b17c5 ip r17:49
maletillathanks!!17:49
Leeloo_georgem2: thanks ;)17:49
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Leeloo_5.135.200.160/29 dev qg-04a1b833-f9  proto kernel  scope link  src 5.135.200.16417:50
Leeloo_10.0.0.0/24 dev qr-651cd497-e8  proto kernel  scope link  src 10.0.0.117:50
Leeloo_default via 5.135.200.166 dev qg-04a1b833-f917:50
maletillait would be better if you use the paste.openstack.org site :)17:50
maletillawhat you've done makes sense but I don't see how your router is going to route from the private to the public network as there is no path to it.17:52
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maletillain my poor network understanding, you would have to assign one of these addresses to the router17:54
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Leeloo_maletilla: in which manner ?17:57
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drjonesAnyone here been successful getting Neutron working with Keystone V3? If so, any documentation so I can attempt this?18:04
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maletillaLeeloo_: are these IP addresses supposed to be configured on the servers or are they NATted to the boxes?18:05
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KodiakFSo I'm trying to understand how Openstack networking works so far as how it looks from the outside of the cluster - could someone take a look at this sketch and tell me if I'm doing this wrong?18:08
KodiakFhttps://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-a3GTfUy3cFA/U9ZDMzUCdWI/AAAAAAAAWVY/U3dOLvUbtMg/w864-h757-no/neutron-path.png18:08
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Leeloo_maletilla: I think they NATted to the boxes, with proxmox we do nothing, to be able to use it from container vm18:08
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georgem2KodiakF:Networking in Openstack is the most complex part18:20
georgem2KodiakF: this diagram is closer to how you would deploy it in real life: https://camo.githubusercontent.com/c5bbff98a5ad9b4d82bcc841cdbd76c07a50b82e/687474703a2f2f692e696d6775722e636f6d2f467273756768652e6a706718:20
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georgem2KodiakF: the diagram comes from here: https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Grizzly-Install-Guide/blob/OVS_MultiNode/OpenStack_Grizzly_Install_Guide.rst18:21
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KodiakFgeorgem2:  Thanks that basically confirms it - we are condensing teh VM traffic network and the public network into one for this initial setup - we will build something more robust for v2.18:22
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georgem2KodiakF:the compute node doesn't need an IP on the public network18:23
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KodiakFwe're treating that network as the "vm traffic network" as well18:24
fyb3rI think trying to figure out how to implement it into a website and automate is more of a pain in the ass lol18:25
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KodiakFthat's how nova-01.company and nova-02.company will talk to neutron etc18:25
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georgem2KodiakF:so in your diagram, the Nova node P3p1 interface should have a private IP like 10.0.3.X that's going to be used as GRE endpoint between the compute node and Neutron's 10.0.3.Y interface; if you want to use public IPs instead this could work, but it's a waste and a security risk18:27
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KodiakFgeorgem2:  I'm not sure I follow, but how I'd envisioned it is the GRE traffic will be happening on the p3p1 device on the blades using the /24 10.0.10.0, and on that same network for the br-ex pass-through of all the tenant routers, we will have the single p3p2 interface w/o an IP for the interface, but will be used to expose the "public" uplink IP that is on the outside interface of all the tenant routers so that the VMs within can be routed to18:32
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KodiakFSo basically if a VM (10.0.20.17) is ssh'd into from a user in the enterprise, it goes into the 10.0.10.0/24 network as an interconnect network, hits 10.0.10.13 as the public interface of the tenant router, and goes on into the 10.0.20.0/24 network to access the vm18:33
KodiakF10.0.10.13 living on br-ex18:34
KodiakFThe network team demands that all hosts be routed to and no internal tenant networks that don't have links on the interconnect network (no nat)18:34
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KodiakF(not that it can be stopped if a tenant strings another router behind the one we treat as "the official tenant router" that we set a route to when we create the tenant18:35
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georgem2KodiakF:ok, if that "public network" is not actually using public IPs then it's not wasteful; the security issue is that your openstack users will be able to ssh directly into 10.0.10.11 if not otherwise protected18:39
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KodiakFCorrect - we're reusing that network for a few things - including horizon.18:39
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KodiakFThe next iteration will be nicer18:40
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georgem2KodiakF:br-ex will need to have an IP in 10.0.10.X range and the default gw on that neutron node should point to br-ex; the p3p2 physical interface on the Neutron node will just be up with no IP assigned to it, but added to the br-ex bridge18:44
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KodiakFI thought that the physical interface hosting br-ex was supposed to not have it's own IP address and rather would dynamically add and remove IPs from that interface as routers are created and deleted?18:45
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KodiakFI'm trying to wrap my head around it - I'll go re-read the openstack docs for the network node installation again18:46
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georgem2KodiakF: this is how your Neutron networking should look like and you would have to adapt it for Redhat of course, http://paste.openstack.org/show/TOj41WLHzuC5x2PHItKT/18:56
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KodiakFgeorgem2:  Awesome thanks so much - I'm going to run with this and see if I can't get neutron going18:58
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georgem2KodiakF:sure18:58
Footyhey18:58
Footyis it ok if i ask some really dumb questions?18:59
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angdraugFooty: don't ask metaquestions, just ask your question :)19:00
Footyrgr :D19:00
angdraugworst thing that can happen is nobody'll answer :p19:00
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Footyok so ive been trying to read up about openstack cus my boss wants me to consider deploying it19:01
Footyand im struggling to figure out what it is19:01
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Footyso i thought to start it was a bunch of opensource apps that were bundled together19:01
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Footybit like vmware, and you choose if something is a storage node or computer node19:01
Footyetcetc19:01
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Footybut the more i read into it its talking about using mutiple hypervisors19:02
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maletillaLeeloo_: did u see georgem2 link? I think you need to come to a similar scenario before being able to allocate IP addresses to VMs.19:02
Footyso i start thinking its more of an abstraction layer to existing virtulisation19:02
angdraugI think in a nutshell it's more of an opensource alternative to AWS, rather than vmWare19:02
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angdrauge.g. it can use vmware as a hypervisor19:02
Leeloo_maletilla: I sse it, I take a look19:03
Footyso if im looking for a 4-5 node deployment in a small company where the it team will spin up and down the nodes as required.... is there any point looking at openstack or is it really designed for "cloud"19:03
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angdraugif you want to play with openstack for PoC purposes, you should probably start with devstack and then move on to installing a multi-node virtual environment with something like fuel19:03
Footys/nodes/vms/19:03
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angdraugdisclaimer: I'm a fuel developer19:04
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angdraug4-5 nodes still makes sense with openstack19:04
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Footyi left ubuntu's openstack cloud thing downloading when i left the office19:04
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Footyso do i need a stroage node or could i just use a SAN?19:06
Footyo i need a network node19:06
Footydo*19:06
angdraugI don't know enough about ubuntu cloud to answer that19:06
Footyah19:06
angdraugwith fuel, there's no separate network node19:07
angdraugthere are separate storage roles that you can put on their own nodes or combine with other roles like controller/compute19:07
Footythere may not be with ubuntu ive been looking at so much documentation today honestly im just confused19:07
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Footyonly reason i downloadedd ubuntu was cus ive used ubuntu before :P19:08
angdraughttp://docs.mirantis.com/openstack/fuel/fuel-5.0/reference-architecture.html19:08
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angdraughopefull this helps instead of adding more confusion )19:08
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angdraugfuel can deploy openstack on ubuntu for you, too19:08
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Footyso the computer nodes are the hypervisors?19:09
Footycompute*19:09
thmzzFooty: correct19:09
Footybut you can use any hypretvisor you want?19:09
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thmzzFooty: The ones who are compatible with openstack, yes19:10
thmzzI’ve only used QEMU myself19:10
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Footythats kinda like kvm isnt it19:10
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Footyso if i installed qemu on a server and told openstack to go connet to it, do i configure the server from openstack or from the existing qemu commands19:11
Footyor do i need to use one of the openstack vendors version of the OS to make it work with openstack19:12
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thmzzFooty: Check this one.. There are two types of setup, Neutron (controller, network and a compute node), and Legacy (controller and network together, and a compute node)19:12
thmzzhttp://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/install-guide/install/yum/content/basics-networking-nova.html19:13
Footyyup saw this earlier today19:13
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particlemanDoes anyone know a way to instruct nova to boot an instance to a specified ISO *just once* (for rescue purposes) but still attach the boot volume?19:15
thmzzand QEMU can make use of KVM. F.ex if the VM has the same OS as the host architecture19:15
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Footyhmm19:18
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Footyis there some sort of step by step guide to installing a working openstack lab, cus I think im going to need to just get hands on with this19:19
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ZerpexThere's tools like RDO and devstack to get a working openstack 'lab' :)19:20
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thmzzzerpi derpi19:22
walterheckwhere should I go to get our training services listed on openstack marketplace?19:22
Footy:D19:23
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Footyjust wish there was a here, "download x and do Y and Z" that is a working openstack now go play19:23
maletilladocs.openstack.org --> Install Guide19:23
thmzzThere is19:23
maletillapick your flavor of OS and go19:24
Zerpexmaletilla: http://www.openstack.org/assets/marketplace/join-the-marketplace.pdf I guess this would be what you need to do19:24
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* maletilla thinks that was for walterheck :) 19:24
Zerpexwait - wrong mention lol19:24
Zerpexwalterheck: http://www.openstack.org/assets/marketplace/join-the-marketplace.pdf :D19:24
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maletilla;)19:24
Zerpexalmost written same way19:24
walterheckthanks Zerpex :)19:24
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maletilladid u grab the keyboard backwards?19:25
maletillaupsidedown ?19:25
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Footyand the guide is great if you have some idea of what it is your building...19:25
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maletillanot really ...19:26
maletillaFooty: georgem2 posted this a bit earlier: https://camo.githubusercontent.com/c5bbff98a5ad9b4d82bcc841cdbd76c07a50b82e/687474703a2f2f692e696d6775722e636f6d2f467273756768652e6a706719:27
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maletillayou can have all-in-one installs via RDO or devstack too19:28
walterheckif I understand correctly in order to get our trainings listed on the openstack marketplace we have to become a corporate sponsor first and fork over 25K USD?19:28
maletillabut I prefer a step by step install as my setup does not fit the RDO build state of mind.19:28
Zerpexand RDO does not include ironic :D19:29
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Footyill give it a crack tomorrow, perhaps i ll blog about it too.  "openstack... for those that just don't get it"19:31
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maletillaZerpex: is ironic something similar to foreman?19:32
ZerpexHaven't played around with foreman yet - and still setting up ironic for a prove of concept, to see if openstack will be used for our internal installations of bare metal servers19:33
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Zerpexbut ya - probably - foreman looks nice as well - what I like about openstack and ironic, is the imaging copying even to bare metal - allows rapid deployment of servers :d - but still unsure if it's the right fit19:35
Zerpexwhen taking into account we have ~ 170 server configurations, and don't know if we need images for each disk size etc - or if we can do custom partitioning per server19:36
maletillaI am not familiar with either one, that was just from a quick read of the Ironic description19:36
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Zerpexbut sadly think openstack won't be the fit :/19:38
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maletilla<rant> Sad story at work, we concluded it is easier to make the US Congress to agree on the Health care reform than to introduce a significant change in the infrastructure </rant>19:40
Zerpex:p19:40
ZerpexI have no problems with changes in the infrastructure - but you should select the right tool for the task I guess :)19:41
maletillaif it is not shiny, colorful, slow and over priced, it won't he a good fit here.19:41
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ZerpexI see a lot of nice usecases for openstack in our infrastructure - but due to the large amount of different dedicated servers we have (also age) - deploying with ironic I think it will be kinda overkill, and cause more headaches than it will benefit19:42
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KodiakFangdraug:  Fuel looks awesome - looked at the demo, don't see anything related to Neutron deployment - was curious if you could speak to how it handles deploying a neutron node or if you have to configure that yourself when using fuel19:43
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angdraugKodiakF: thanks :) fuel gives you a choice between nova-network and neutron19:45
angdraugit puts all neutron services on controllers19:45
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angdraugso there's no dedicated network node, but neutron services are all there19:45
KodiakFAh - does it handle clustering / HA for controllers then?19:45
KodiakFrabbitmq or qpidd?19:45
KodiakFI just found the controller does networking diagram argh http://docs.mirantis.com/fuel/fuel-3.2.1/_images/Neutron_32_gre_v2.png19:46
angdraugrabbitmq19:46
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KodiakFLooks like my next deployment will be Fuel - I'm doing everything manually step by step this time around19:47
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angdraugKodiakF: that's from a grizzly version of fuel, 5.0 docs have more info19:47
KodiakFCan you jump onto controllers and do things like set up SSL on horizon etc?19:48
KodiakF(If using Fuel)19:48
KodiakFAnd does it play nice with physical hosts already joined to enterprise puppetmaster and satellites?19:48
angdraugyou can do better: tweak puppet manifests of fuel master node so that it deploys it the right way from the start19:48
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angdraugwe ditched puppetmaster, so joining to enterprise puppetmaster isn't going to be trivial19:49
angdraugwe distribute manifests to all nodes via rsync and then run puppet apply19:49
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KodiakFif puppet apply points to the right files locally I *think* /etc/puppet.conf can still specify our enterprise puppet master and the two won't duke it out (I hope...)19:50
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maletillaKodiakF: the downside to do a manual deployment is that it is very easy to miss-spell a configuration stanza and these are a pain to troubleshoot.19:50
KodiakFI guess my only concern would be how Fuel's puppet apply job handles being beaten to the punch by a running puppet agent daemon job19:51
angdraugZerpex: ironic excluded support for heterogenic environments by design19:51
angdraugwe tried to propose our custom disk partitioning code to ironic agent, it was rejected19:51
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KodiakFmaletilla:  I agree - I'm inching along - I suspect by the end I'll understand it better than if I'd started w/ packstack or Fuel19:51
Zerpexangdraug: okay - then I know that ironic won't be the match19:52
angdraugFuel does allow you to customize your disk partitioning per server or server type, although we do occasionally come up with server configurations that we don't have drivers or the right firmware for19:52
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angdraugif you end up trying fuel and it doesn't detect hw on some of your servers, please let us know19:53
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Zerpexangdraug: I might give it a try - since, yeah - I don't even want to know how many different hardware types we have :/19:54
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KodiakFStupid question - Fuel, is the business model 100% free or is there a 'community' version w/ less power than a 'pro/enterprise' version?19:54
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angdraugall fuel source code is up on stackforge, we don't have an closed "enterprise" version19:55
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KodiakFI can probs sell this to mgmt19:55
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KodiakFCan I do ISCSI backed LVM for cinder?19:56
angdraugthat's our default19:56
KodiakF(with Fuel)19:56
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angdraugunless you want ceph19:56
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Zerpexangdraug: but does fuel use nova-compute?19:57
angdraugyes19:57
Zerpexdang :/19:57
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angdraughm. on second thought, can you expand your question?19:57
KodiakFsorry I didn't say it clearly enough - So this is asinine but I've taken what gear I can for this project - I have a physical host that is backed by enterprise ISCSI which I've created a PV from called cinder_volumes - can I carry that forward w/ fuel?  (That's in addition to cinder vols being passed over ISCSI to vms...)  So ISCSI -> cinder vol server PV ->  'cinder_volumes' VG -> ISCSI -> VMs19:58
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Zerpexwhat we would like to do would be to use the fast provisioning time of openstack (or fuel or whatever) - on bare metal servers - meaning no hypervisor - just like if you have a dedicated server, and you install centos normally on it - but faster due to the provisioning19:58
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KodiakFAnd does Fuel also handle pacemaker setup and haproxy and all the other high-avail stuff for us or do we set that up manually?19:59
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KodiakFZerpex - I think that's the Openstack Ironic project for bare metal IIRC19:59
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angdraugok, external iSCSI isn't yet suported out of the box, but there are plans, and our services people were able to do it for a lot of customers fairly easily19:59
ZerpexKodiakF: except I can't make custom partitioning in ironic :/20:00
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angdraugZerpex: what you're looking for is using baremetal/ironic instead of libvirt, Fuel doesn't do that for you20:00
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KodiakFangdraug:  Does Fuel demand bare metal or coould I provision the OS and set up the ISCSI backed mpaths and PVs then add it to Fuel as a storage node?20:01
angdraugall we have is Mirantis OpenStack Express, which is Fuel on top of IBM SoftLayer20:01
angdraugwhich is similar in spririt, but on IBM's hardware, not on your own20:01
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Zerpexya - that sucks :D20:01
angdraugpacemaker and haproxy: yes, that's included, see reference architecture link I posted before20:02
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jdandreaPossibly naïve question: Does the nova AZ always exist and does it always include all available hosts (including hosts added post-initial installation)? Wondering if it is a "special" AZ or just the initial one.20:02
vikneshcan anyone guide me on how to start fixing bugs for openstack , i have been fixing few bugs for mozilla :)20:02
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angdraugwe recently added vmware as a hypervisor option, so in theory doing something along the same lines for baremetal is possible20:02
vikneshand i got some overview on how openstack components work :)20:03
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angdraugKodiakF: Fuel does require bare metal, Mirantis OpenStack bundles OpenStack packages with underlying OS (CentOS or Ubuntu)20:04
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KodiakFSo basically for the cinder vol server I need to find something with actual local raw disks rather than ISCSI backing ?20:05
KodiakFJust to be crystal clear20:05
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angdraugdepends on how much you want to use that external iSCSI SAN20:05
KodiakFangdraug:  I'd rather not at all haha but I don't think I can beg any 720hx boxes this fiscal20:06
angdraugif not that much, it's simpler to just set up a cinder storage node on a server with local raw disks20:06
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KodiakFAll I have are blades w/ pitiful local storage - 146GB raid 120:06
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angdraugif you're not afraid to get your hands dirty, tweaking our manifests to take external iscsi for cinder backend shouldn't be that hard20:06
KodiakFI need to beg a 720hx before I can do Fuel20:06
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KodiakFWell at least it's in Puppet and I know how to do some of that20:07
KodiakFI'll have to mess around20:07
angdraugyup, have a look at https://github.com/stackforge/fuel-library/tree/master/deployment/puppet20:08
angdraugstarting point is osnailyfacter/examples/site.pp20:08
angdraugoh, and you might want to move this to #fuel before we're kicked for flooding #openstack with this discussion )20:09
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KodiakFangdraug:  Thanks a bunch - gosh this is rad20:19
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muraikihas anyone here set an ssh key when launching an instance using an api through the metadata request parameter?20:42
muraikiusing an api call*20:43
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koapsmuraiki: what kinda of image you using?20:47
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muraikiubuntu 14.04 cloud image20:47
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muraikiI've gotten things working using cloud-config, but my boss wants me to use metadata instead if possible20:48
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muraikiI'm sending the metadata like so: {'public-keys': 'keyname'} and I also tried {'public-keys/0/openssh-key': 'keyname'}20:49
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muraikibut when I query the metadata server, I don't even see public-keys existing20:50
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koapsmuraiki: like this? http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-compute/2/content/GET_os-keypairs-v2_getKeypair__v2__tenant_id__os-keypairs_ext-os-keypairs.html#GET_os-keypairs-v2_getKeypair__v2__tenant_id__os-keypairs_ext-os-keypairs-Request20:52
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koapsmuraiki: wish I could help but I use prebuilt images with our keys installed20:53
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muraikithanks, but that's not exactly what I'm looking for. there's a way to specify metadata in the create instance request20:53
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koapsmuraiki: I use heat and that has user_data20:55
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muraikiyeah, we're trying to avoid user_data, which is how cloud-config is supplied20:55
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MilesDenverI can no longer retrieve meta-data from my nova-api, on ONE server only.21:59
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MilesDenverthe others all work and this one worked great, but is not failing.21:59
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MilesDenvercurl http://169.254.169.254/latest/meta-data/hostname fails, but it I use the address of the nova-api server it works fine.22:00
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MilesDenverSo it's just the iptables22:00
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MilesDenveroh…. and it's caching old data.  So New VMs that pull and old FIXED IP end up with the hostname of the old VM.22:01
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MilesDenverIs there a clean way to restart iptables and nova-network?22:04
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akshya_Hi All, I am seeing a "Failed to bind port on host XXX" and "vif binding failed" error on a 3-node setup that I am trying to run whenever I try to create an instance. Also I see the "no bound segment for port" error22:42
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akshya_Hi All, I am seeing a "Failed to bind port on host XXX" and "vif binding failed" error on a 3-node setup that I am trying to run whenever I try to create an instance. Also I see the "no bound segment for port" error23:09
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MilesDenverI have a bad feeling I will be rebuilding my wicked not that is unable to connect to nova-api.23:16
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vidalinuxanyone up?23:48
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sputnik13I'm down23:53
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