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| pcn | Anyone know why the nova-scheduler would tell me this when I have instance create failure: vif_type=binding_failed | 01:44 |
| pcn | This is with ml2 and vxlan | 01:44 |
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| larsks | pcn: That often indicates a problem with your neutron configuration. I would check /var/log/neutron/*log on the compute host first (and then on the controller). | 01:53 |
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| pcn | larsks: the most prevalent message is "Driver configuration doesn't match with enable_security_group" | 02:13 |
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| larsks | pcn: That's not one I've seen before...I don't know if that would cause an instance to fail to launch or not. I wonder if there are other messages that are co-incident with trying to start a new instance? | 02:14 |
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| pcn | Well, that seems to coincide with Error received from ovsdb monitor: 2014-08-05T01:12:14Z|00001|fatal_signal|WARN|terminating with signal 15 (Terminated) | 02:16 |
| pcn | within 1 second. | 02:16 |
| pcn | I guess you're saying they may not be cause+effect? | 02:16 |
| larsks | pcn: I'm just saying I don't know :). And was curious if there was anything else. | 02:16 |
| larsks | pcn: Have you set this up manually, or are you using a tool like devstack/packstack/etc? | 02:17 |
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| pcn | I'm a chef guy, I'm using the icehouse branch of the stackforge/openstack cookbooks | 02:19 |
| pcn | The setup was working with some caveats, so I tore it down and re-built it, with this being the new wrinkle. | 02:19 |
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| pcn | I need this to be automatable, so this is the cost of doing that | 02:19 |
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| larsks | pcn: That error seems to come from here: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/agent/securitygroups_rpc.py#L42 | 02:24 |
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| larsks | It looks like it's just a warning (although it does suggest what to check to get rid of it) | 02:25 |
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| sld | I heard neutron was getting a new name.....anyone know anything about it? | 02:28 |
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| pcn | larsks: let's see if noop firewall driver helps | 02:29 |
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| larsks | sld: I have not heard that. It seems unlikely, given that neutron was just renamed from quantum in the last couple of releases. | 02:30 |
| larsks | ...but I haven't been following the mailing list closely, so who knows? | 02:30 |
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| sld | larsks: yeah.. i know that quantum was changed to neutron but i also heard it was getting changed again. lol.. i hope it doesn't. | 02:39 |
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| pcn | Maybe "openstack networking"? | 02:41 |
| sld | lol | 02:41 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sld: moo. | 03:13 |
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| pcn | I'm not having much luck. OK, I'm going to burn this to the ground again, including openvswitch, see if clearing that helps | 03:52 |
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| davidbowlby | How do I modify the dhcp leases on a nova-network to update the nic mac address? | 03:55 |
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| davidbowlby | I tried modifying the interfaces file on the host, but that botched the instance since its hardware address didn't match that in the rabbitmq database | 03:56 |
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| sld | davidbowlby: are you saying you want to expire the IP, or that you want to extend the DHCP lease, shorten the DHCP lease time, or something else? I"m a little confused. Please elaborate. | 03:58 |
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| davidbowlby | I want to update the mac address on the interface | 04:01 |
| davidbowlby | I think I figured it out | 04:01 |
| davidbowlby | looks like it is stored in the mysql database | 04:01 |
| davidbowlby | for nova-network | 04:01 |
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| sld | yeah, and also in the dhcp lease file itself, both. | 04:02 |
| davidbowlby | boom that did it | 04:03 |
| davidbowlby | lil sql-fu | 04:03 |
| sld | lol | 04:03 |
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| davidbowlby | if anyone wants it for their doc: "update virtual_interfaces set address='<mac>' where instance_uuid = '<uuid>;" | 04:04 |
| davidbowlby | crap, I stand corrected, still hosed it | 04:05 |
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| davidbowlby | how about a instance customization script at launch instance in the UI, anyone know how to set it there | 04:06 |
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| sld | i think you might be able to specify mac addr with --nic net-id=....... via nova boot... i know you can specify network uuid, and specify port, and specify ip.... | 04:06 |
| sld | maybe you an do mac addr too... never done it, but it might be possible. | 04:07 |
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| nunne | Trying to start a session (to create a windows 2012 image for openstack). But I just can't seem to get it to work. It spawns a kvm session, outputs no error.. I can use RealVNC to connect to the session but it terminates in under 1 second. Anyone have any ideas? And can I make KVM a bit more verbose, since its saying nothing at the moment. And openstack | 04:25 |
| nunne | works, i can launch instances etc. | 04:25 |
| nunne | kvm -m 4096 -smp 2 -cdrom /root/isos/SW_DVD9_Windows_Svr_Std_and_DataCtr_2012_R2_64Bit_Swedish_-3_MLF_X19-53684.ISO -drive file=/root/isos/virtio-win-0.1-52.iso,index=3,media=cdrom /root/isos/windows-server-2012-r2.qcow2 -boot d -vga std -k sv -vnc :5 | 04:26 |
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| davidbowlby | actually it looks like the nic change worked, just cloud-init is having issues | 04:33 |
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| davidbowlby | after the initially laggy start | 04:33 |
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| davidbowlby | I rebooted the box and it started up quick | 04:33 |
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| davidbowlby | not sure what happened, but hey, I have the correct mac now :D | 04:33 |
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| davidbowlby | I wish I could find a #cloud-config schema | 04:34 |
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| davidbowlby | I'll play with passing the flag and see what I find | 04:35 |
| davidbowlby | nunne, I had a similar problem but used a java based vnc client (runs as executable jar file) and it caught something the other vnc client didn't | 04:36 |
| davidbowlby | some kind of security mismatch if I remember right | 04:36 |
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| nunne | davidbowlby: Thanks! Downloaded TightVNC java client. And now I can see that it's at least loading Windows setup :) So now I can progress from there. Thanks alot! Have been scratching my head over this all last night :P | 04:42 |
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| nunne | davidbowlby: and it seems the automated .xml (that should finish the installation automatically) failed because it was a single language install media :p. Clicked next and that seemed to be about it! haha. Shamefull way to loose 6 or so hours ;) | 04:47 |
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| davidbowlby | nunne, unfortunately I only know the answer because I know the pain you're going through ;) | 04:50 |
| davidbowlby | nunne, it isn't so bad once you get an image built and sysprepped though. Load the cloud-config util. | 04:50 |
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| nunne | davidbowlby: yeah, I'm using the http://www.cloudbase.it/create-windows-openstack-images/ prep script. And tried the Win2012e2 evaluation image they provided.. And it works like a charm. Problem is that we use volume license key. So can't activate Windows :) (thanks MS for having different media for different license types :P) | 04:54 |
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| preeti | hey | 05:00 |
| preeti | any one having idea about hardware | 05:01 |
| preeti | i hv to compoare two NIC | 05:01 |
| preeti | or any site for comparisoing features | 05:01 |
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| sld | Does anyone know of a way to target a specific cinder node, when creating a volume? | 05:52 |
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| tvb | Does anyone know why there is no ip information available in the config-drive metadata? | 07:00 |
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| WhiteMoOn | hi All. I'm looking for a guidance for offline openstack installation. | 07:09 |
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| deani | As I understand the services are exposed through REST but for example glance while getting a token verified (does it do through RabbitMQ) or through REST | 09:48 |
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| willemb | hi guys. anyone here familiar with the puppet forge module for openstack? | 11:34 |
| willemb | the model does not quite make sense | 11:34 |
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| willemb | puppet runs on the controller are complaining about an ip address and ovs | 11:36 |
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| willemb | i am confused | 11:36 |
| willemb | why would the controller node care? | 11:36 |
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| gaud | hi, I don't understand something. In the Ceph documentation that explains how to configure openstack to use ceph, they are reffering to a certain patch (https://github.com/jdurgin/nova/tree/havana-ephemeral-rbd) but I don't understand what they mean by "ephemeral on rdb".. I thought that ephemeral meant on the local compute node disk .. | 12:02 |
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| gaud | I am talking about those instruction : http://ceph.com/docs/next/rbd/rbd-openstack/ | 12:03 |
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| sieve | Whats the best way to provide ephemeral storage for openstack if I have a bunch of block devices (SSD) on node | 12:31 |
| sieve | but no raid controller | 12:31 |
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| KodiakF | sieve: that's a tough one since /var/lib/nova/instances is the singular place they'll live. I'd be surprised if software raid helped much. Why not get a raid controller since you've got $$$ invested in SSDs | 12:34 |
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| sieve | KodiakF: the ssds are a couple of hundred US$ for 240GB | 12:37 |
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| KodiakF | yep - and a controller is only a few hundred | 12:38 |
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| sieve | KodiakF: "Only" a few hundred... | 12:38 |
| sieve | KodiakF: mdadm? | 12:38 |
| KodiakF | yea that's your only other choice might as well have a go at it | 12:38 |
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| KodiakF | http://www.rackspace.com/knowledge_center/article/configuring-a-software-raid-on-a-linux-performance-cloud-server | 12:39 |
| sieve | ta | 12:40 |
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| maletilla | good day folks | 12:44 |
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| KodiakF | maletilla! | 12:54 |
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| kaushal | Hi | 13:00 |
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| maletilla | KodiakF: I've been watching the conversations lately and see you've done interesting strides | 13:02 |
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| maletilla | congrats | 13:02 |
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| KodiakF | ha for sure - I saved the worst for last | 13:02 |
| KodiakF | doing neutron today | 13:02 |
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| kaushal | is openstack a IAAS or PAAS? | 13:02 |
| kaushal | I get confused between this terms | 13:03 |
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| kaushal | apologies for asking very basic question | 13:03 |
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| KodiakF | if you're running it I'd say it's infra as a service :) | 13:04 |
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| PsionTheory | hey guys can you tell me where to locate the local.conf (or configuration.ini equivalent ) for openstack icehouse | 13:09 |
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| KodiakF | do you mean /etc/openstack-dashboard/local_settings | 13:09 |
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| PsionTheory | not exactly, i have to configure openstack to communicate with an opendaylight controller etc. | 13:10 |
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| KodiakF | Are you coming from the Devstack world? | 13:10 |
| PsionTheory | is that where i would make the nessecary changes (local settings ?) | 13:10 |
| PsionTheory | no standard icehouse openstack | 13:11 |
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| KodiakF | Yes but this local.conf that you speak of sounds like the amalgamation of configs bundled into an answer file in Devstack that in regular Openstack is scattered across many config files and many hosts... | 13:12 |
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| PsionTheory | you are right, i was watching a youtube video for ovsdb configuration (and they were using local.conf etc.) | 13:12 |
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| KodiakF | Which is why I was thinking your question means you're coming from the Devstack world and doing regular Openstack now. Yep | 13:12 |
| KodiakF | that's many files | 13:12 |
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| KodiakF | look at the neutron setup guide for your OS | 13:12 |
| PsionTheory | where would i configure the openstack environment to execute the integration | 13:13 |
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| PsionTheory | ok, will do | 13:13 |
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| KodiakF | Those sound like buzzwords | 13:13 |
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| KodiakF | http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/install-guide/install/yum/content/ch_networking.html | 13:13 |
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| PsionTheory | i would do the integration of opendaylight within the neutron area of openstack, correct ? | 13:14 |
| KodiakF | Neutron is the networking component of Openstack, yes. | 13:15 |
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| PsionTheory | thanks. i'd do the same step for OVSDB integration as well (i assume) | 13:15 |
| PsionTheory | sorry for the newbie questions, im a newbie | 13:16 |
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| maletilla | KodiakF: do you have several network hosts? | 13:31 |
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| KodiakF | maletilla: 1 Neutron host, 3 compute so far | 13:38 |
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| maletilla | that ought to be interesting | 13:40 |
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| * maletilla still stuck at $job with an 1800s mentality | 13:40 | |
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| KodiakF | should hopefully be straightforward using GRE tunnels between the nodes | 13:40 |
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| KodiakF | this is our proof of concept cluster so I feel like we're pretty late to the game | 13:41 |
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| maletilla | hahaha our IT leadership does not want to hear about OS. | 13:42 |
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| zilberstein | good day #openstack | 13:42 |
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| maletilla | if we use it, it will be a packaged solution from the most expensive vendor. | 13:42 |
| maletilla | zilberstein: good day | 13:43 |
| zilberstein | Issue with neutron: neutron.plugins.ml2.managers [-] Failed to bind port 6ff17955-7651-468a-af65-1af0a6cf5ded on host localhost | 13:43 |
| zilberstein | and nova of course raises exception: NovaException: Unexpected vif_type=binding_failed | 13:43 |
| zilberstein | on boot | 13:43 |
| zilberstein | could someone throw any clue ? | 13:43 |
| maletilla | how about we begin with a description of what is your setup, guides you've followed | 13:43 |
| maletilla | from the base Operating system | 13:44 |
| zilberstein | sure. one moment plz | 13:44 |
| KodiakF | maletilla: sounds like Nebula One: 100k will get you a controller appliance running Grizzly | 13:44 |
| maletilla | make sure to post logs and config files to paste.openstack.org | 13:44 |
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| maletilla | I don't know why I bother, I can't even troubleshot my install. :) | 13:45 |
| DHE | is it possible to set up openstack to do hardware vlans for its network communication rather than vxlan or gre tunneling? The intention is to pave the way that external vlans could be somewhat arbitrarily brought into openstack tenant networks while also avoiding MTU issues with gre tunnels | 13:46 |
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| zilberstein | maletilla, http://pastie.org/9447499 | 13:46 |
| DHE | I got it working fine with GRE tunnels once I got the MTU issue sorted out. now I want to convert to a different layout | 13:46 |
| zilberstein | So I use openvswitch | 13:46 |
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| zilberstein | from ubuntu ( sic ) | 13:47 |
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| zilberstein | and I use ML2 plugin of neutron | 13:47 |
| zilberstein | when I execute neutron angent-list, it shows healthy agents | 13:47 |
| zilberstein | including L3 agent | 13:47 |
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| zilberstein | I just don't get why it fails to bring up bridge | 13:48 |
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| zilberstein | maletilla, http://pastie.org/9447505 | 13:50 |
| zilberstein | logs | 13:50 |
| zilberstein | 2014-08-05 15:40:00.699 29999 Failed to bind port | 13:50 |
| zilberstein | WTF ? | 13:51 |
| maletilla | I am a noobie too but have had my share of bruces already | 13:51 |
| * zilberstein digs that issue half a day | 13:51 | |
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| Sam-I-Am | DHE: neutron does vlan | 14:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | and flat | 14:04 |
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| DHE | Sam-I-Am: Got a documentation link? The install guide (for CentOS) sets up GRE but I'm not sure about how to do vlan | 14:05 |
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| Sam-I-Am | there's no step-by-step for vlan | 14:05 |
| sikor_sxe | mirantis has some great docs about it | 14:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | generally speaking, when you create the networks, you say provider type is vlan and set the segmentation id (vlan id) | 14:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | otherwise theres not much difference from gre | 14:06 |
| sikor_sxe | can anyone point me to a cloud-init tutorial? | 14:06 |
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| DHE | Okay. So what I guess I want then is to say, for example, vlans 1000 to 4094 are free for default use and that I can manually assign a vlan in the range 1-999 to networks when the need arises. That sound feasible? | 14:07 |
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| DHE | or something to that general effect | 14:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | DHE: http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/under_the_hood_linuxbridge_scenario1.html | 14:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | sort of like that | 14:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | just restrict the segment ids | 14:08 |
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| DHE | Sam-I-Am: I'm not quite at that step yet. I still need to actually get vlan services working in the first place. Eg: neutron.conf and plugin.ini | 14:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | there's some things you set in ml2 conf for vlans | 14:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | thats it | 14:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | DHE: add "vlan" to type_drivers and tenant_network_types | 14:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | DHE: under the [ml2_type_vlan] section add network_vlan_ranges and your range of acceptable vlans... like 101:900 | 14:15 |
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| Sam-I-Am | add section [vlans], under it put tenant_network_type = vlan and vlan_network_ranges = 101:900 (or whatever) | 14:16 |
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| Sam-I-Am | aaaand... thats about it | 14:16 |
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| DHE | that goes on nova and the main neutron L3 host? | 14:20 |
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| Sam-I-Am | anywhere you have a ml2_conf.ini | 14:21 |
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| sikor_sxe | where is the cloud-init/config starting point on a stock ubuntu class for example? | 14:23 |
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| georgem2 | sikor_sxe:/etc/cloud/cloud.cfg | 14:26 |
| sikor_sxe | but there is no actual configuration specified there | 14:27 |
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| georgem2 | sikor_sxe:what are you looking for? | 14:27 |
| sikor_sxe | i want to change the domain name of my instances and write and dhcp-hooks file | 14:28 |
| sikor_sxe | a dhcp-enter-hook file | 14:28 |
| sikor_sxe | the latter is not that important, i can get the domain from within the hook script | 14:29 |
| georgem2 | sikor_sxe:not sure about that, but check this out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CloudInit | 14:30 |
| georgem2 | and this: http://cloudinit.readthedocs.org/en/latest/topics/examples.html | 14:31 |
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| MilesDenver | sikor_sxe: I'm setting the domain names with dhcp_domain=mydomain.com inside nova.conf | 14:36 |
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| waverider | hello | 14:55 |
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| sikor_sxe | MilesDenver: i need this specific to projects :/ | 14:59 |
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| MilesDenver | yea… that's not as easy. I would probably use puppet or chef for that. | 15:00 |
| MilesDenver | sikor_sxe: with puppet you could make a fact, which would be the project name and assign the domain from the discovered fact | 15:00 |
| sikor_sxe | that would work | 15:00 |
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| sikor_sxe | and i provide the cloud-config file at instance start via user data? | 15:01 |
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| MilesDenver | cloud-init is pretty cool, but whenever I try to make it do too much it's never easy. | 15:01 |
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| georgem2 | MilesDenver:how do you get the project name from a fact? | 15:03 |
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| MilesDenver | georgem2: I haven't done it yet, but in theory curl 169.254.169.254/latest/…. whatever it is you want | 15:04 |
| sikor_sxe | maybe via curl | 15:04 |
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| sikor_sxe | :) | 15:04 |
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| georgem2 | MilesDenver: I thought you were talking about a Puppet fact | 15:05 |
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| MilesDenver | georgem2: Sure, make a custom fact from the curl command | 15:06 |
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| MilesDenver | we should switch the the puppet channel to continue this… if you want. | 15:06 |
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| georgem2 | MilesDenver:no, but thanks anyway; I thought there is a built-in fact for that | 15:07 |
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| MilesDenver | georgem2: Sikor_exe wants to set his domain name based on the project the VM spins up in. | 15:10 |
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| larsks | e_steve_: I don't think so. Nova isn't necessarily backed by libvirt, so a call like that would often not make any sense. | 16:01 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i was thinking the same thing | 16:04 |
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| shantanoo | hi, quick question. is it possible to find out the public IP of the VM 'x', when logged into 'x'? | 16:20 |
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| DHE | in most default configurations the public IP is applied via NAT on the upstream router, so no | 16:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | shantanoo: no, you get that from nova list | 16:22 |
| shantanoo | thanks DHE, Sam-I-Am | 16:22 |
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| georgem2 | shantanoo:are you looking for the floating ip associated with an instance? | 16:54 |
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| shantanoo | georgem2, yes. and would like to find that from inside the instance. | 16:56 |
| georgem2 | shantanoo:curl http://169.254.169.254/latest/meta-data/public-ipv4 | 16:57 |
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| shantanoo | thanks. will check that. | 16:57 |
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| PsionTheory | does the installation of neutron (icehouse) automatically includes ML2 | 17:35 |
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| larsks | PsionTheory: It includes *support* for ml2. It will only be used if you configure neutron to use that. | 17:35 |
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| PsionTheory | ok | 17:35 |
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| PsionTheory | thanks | 17:36 |
| qhartman | I'm having trouble with instances that I create via horizon using the "boot from image (creates new volume)" option. | 17:36 |
| kbringard | larsks: do you know, off the top of your head, if there is a plan to deprecate the old plugins? I thought I heard talk about that happening in Icehouse | 17:36 |
| PsionTheory | neutron lib doesnt have a plugins / ml2 subdirectory | 17:36 |
| PsionTheory | i must install ml2 obviously | 17:36 |
| larsks | kbringard: I'm not sure. I *think* that's the plan, but the legacy plugins (e.g., openvswitch) are still available in icehouse. | 17:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | PsionTheory: theres usually a package for it | 17:36 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the config file would be in /etc/neutron/plugins/ml2 | 17:37 |
| qhartman | they seem to be created properly, but the "Image" attribute on the instance is not set, so when I try to resize them, it fails with the warning " Can't access image : Image could not be found." | 17:37 |
| larsks | PsionTheory: It really depends on how you're installing things. If you install from source, it should be there. If you're using packages, then yeah, it may be separate. | 17:37 |
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| kbringard | larsks: cool, thanks, good to know | 17:37 |
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| PsionTheory | i see the ML2 subdirectory, but the ml2 doesnt have a drivers subdirectory | 17:38 |
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| PsionTheory | where i need to drop the ODL driver | 17:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | i guess you can create it. the ml2 package doesnt include a drivers subdir | 17:39 |
| PsionTheory | ok, cool. thats what i was wondering | 17:39 |
| PsionTheory | thansk sammy | 17:39 |
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| RichardRaseley | Can someone confirm that the endpoint creation steps outlined in step #9 in this (http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/install-guide/install/yum/content/nova-controller.html) document are correct? I was mostly concerned about the ' v2/%\(tenant_id\)s ' bit, and how that would be interpolated. | 17:49 |
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| Sam-I-Am | they are correct | 17:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the install guide works :) | 17:50 |
| RichardRaseley | Sam-I-Am: Thank you. The tenant_id makes enough sense, but what is that 's' bit at the end? | 17:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | its a regex | 17:51 |
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| RichardRaseley | So regex is supported in the URL? | 17:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | it is with how the data is translated to build the url | 17:51 |
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| RichardRaseley | Sam-I-Am: OK, my endpoint look like this (http://paste.openstack.org/show/90612/) and I didn't find any notes on it so I was a bit confused. Thanks. | 17:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | pretty much | 17:53 |
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| larsks | Sam-I-Am: It's not a regex. It's python string subsitution. | 17:54 |
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| larsks | As in: print 'Hello, %(name)s' % {name: "Sam-I-Am"} | 17:55 |
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| RichardRaseley | Ah, that makes much more sense. =] | 17:56 |
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| larsks | RichardRaseley: Did you get your glance working? | 17:56 |
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| RichardRaseley | larsks: Yes, I did - thank you. There must've been a typo in the 'openstack-config' commands I used to set it up. I reviewed and reapplied and I was off to the races. | 17:57 |
| Sam-I-Am | larsks: yeah, thats what i was looking for | 17:57 |
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| Sam-I-Am | we removed the openstack-config commands from the next version of the install guide :) | 17:57 |
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| RichardRaseley | Sam-I-Am: What drove that decision? | 17:58 |
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| RichardRaseley | I actually found the tool and its usage to be useful. | 17:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | it doesnt really show people the structure of the file | 17:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | and it breaks things | 17:58 |
| Sam-I-Am | also, it required writing two different sets of instructions for each thing | 17:59 |
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| RichardRaseley | One concern I have is often instructions which have people dive in and edit a file only provide an overview of the settings which will explicitly be edited, without providing any context around ones that might be configured by default - even if they aren't being touched. | 18:00 |
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| RichardRaseley | So, I'll see 'Go to Y.conf and change X'. Once I am in, I also see 'Z', which seems to be related, but I am not completely sure. | 18:01 |
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| larsks | RichardRaseley: That sounds like a documentation issue. That is, the documentation should make it clear the relationships between different configuration settings. The problem would seem to exist whether you edit the file directly or use a tool. | 18:01 |
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| Sam-I-Am | RichardRaseley: the install guide in particular becomes too confusing to describe all of the default options. | 18:02 |
| RichardRaseley | larsks: Not to say that it doesn't exist, but the tool implicitly abstracts all that away. There is no question of me seeings settings which aren't applicable, as the openstack-config commands mask all that. | 18:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | so we simply edit the things that need to be changed and leave everything else for the other guides, or the descriptions provided in the default config file | 18:03 |
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| larsks | Sam-I-Am: I noticed recently that the default nova.conf is approaching 4000 lines. :) | 18:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | RichardRaseley: i feel the tool sort of obscures the [section] organization | 18:04 |
| RichardRaseley | Sam-I-Am: Understood, I would think saying 'We're changing X, Y, and Z. Here is a link to the authoritative configuration reference.' | 18:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | so when people do edit them by hand, they often shove things wherever they want, and it breaks | 18:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | RichardRaseley: definitely need more linking | 18:04 |
| RichardRaseley | Sam-I-Am: Maybe I should stop complaining and put in some PRs? | 18:04 |
| RichardRaseley | =P | 18:04 |
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| KodiakF | /etc/nova/conf.d would be nice | 18:04 |
| larsks | Sam-I-Am: It sounds like you are arguing for using a tool, which would make sections explicit | 18:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | larsks: no | 18:04 |
| larsks | Sam-I-Am: :) | 18:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | when you dont see the overall structure of a config file | 18:05 |
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| Sam-I-Am | because a command masks it | 18:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | RichardRaseley: linking in docbook sucks... trust me, i'd have links to everything if it was more wiki-ish :) | 18:05 |
| larsks | Sam-I-Am: Ah, I have seen the opposite problem, in which people edit a file directly and just put stuff where they happen to be editing because the file is so big there is no visible structure. | 18:05 |
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| larsks | Sam-I-Am: whereas using a tool like openstack-config you (a) have to specify a section and (b) the section name is always specified in proximity to the value you're setting (in both the documentation and on the command line). | 18:06 |
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| larsks | ...having said that, I edit the files directly, so obviously I am not internally consistent. Carry on! | 18:07 |
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| rm_work | I was registered for a talk at the Paris summit using the wrong email (the one that is linked to Stackalytics for my company affiliation, but not the one I'm registered on Openstack.org with) and while I can apparently log in using that email (I assume because it is linked), I can't update my profile. The profile page just asks me to log in repeatedly (tried multiple browsers / systems / cleared cookies / etc). Who would I contact about | 18:33 |
| rm_work | fixing this? | 18:33 |
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| Sam-I-Am | rm_work: probably the foundation | 18:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | rm_work: perhaps allison price | 18:35 |
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| Phibs | when creating VMs in openstack, do people recommend using LVM or just one partition in / ? | 18:38 |
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| jidar | are you talking about the inside the VMs themselves? if you're trying to squeeze a tiny bit of extra disk io, you'll get better results without LMV | 18:39 |
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| jidar | er, LVM, that said, if you ever want to expand the disk, LVM will help a little, so it's up to you | 18:39 |
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| Phibs | right | 18:42 |
| Phibs | inside the VMds | 18:42 |
| Phibs | VMs | 18:42 |
| Phibs | what is best practice, large scale wise | 18:42 |
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| jidar | there really isn't... | 18:42 |
| Phibs | has to be :) | 18:43 |
| jidar | good luck with that | 18:43 |
| Phibs | haha | 18:43 |
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| Phibs | anyone else have an opinion, lvm or not inside the openstack cloud? | 18:49 |
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| georgem2 | Phibs:http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/openstack/dev/23929 | 18:53 |
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| Phibs | georgem2: much thanks :) | 18:55 |
| Phibs | exactly what I wanted. | 18:55 |
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| alextricity | Howdy, OpenStack. Has anyone had problems with neutronclient such as: Unauthorized: {"error": {"message": "object of type 'NoneType' has no len()", "code": 400, "title": "Bad Request"}} | 19:30 |
| alextricity | Keystone logs are complaining about: keystone.middleware.core [-] Auth token not in the request header. Will not build auth context. process_request /opt/stack/keystone/keystone/middleware/core.py:271 | 19:31 |
| alextricity | Any help would be appreciated :) | 19:32 |
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| dwangoAC | Has anyone here ever used the openstackgeek installer from https://github.com/StackGeek/openstackgeek? | 19:51 |
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| KodiakF | dwangoAC: I don't see what need that meets which isn't being met by more mature projects/products | 19:57 |
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| dwangoAC | KodiakF: Ah, I'd like to know more - | 19:57 |
| dwangoAC | KodiakF: Devstack is not useful for real deployments | 19:58 |
| dwangoAC | KodiakF: And I want to do this on an Ubuntu 14.04 server so Packstack isn't an option | 19:58 |
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| dwangoAC | KodiakF: What alternatives exist for Ubuntu? I've been hitting up Google but most of the information I'm finding is either outdated or disputed. | 19:59 |
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| dwangoAC | Also, Ubuntu's official response is "Use MAAS and deploy on a minimum of 6 servers" which is beyond the scope of what I would like to start with (ideally, I'd like to start with a single all-in-one beefy server and add compute nodes ad our needs grow) | 20:00 |
| KodiakF | For what it's worth I was on the phone w/ Mirantis engineers today and they said 14.04 was way to problematic for them to consider supporting. For what it's worth | 20:00 |
| dwangoAC | KodiakF: I'm not opposed to dropping back to 12.04 if there's a compelling reason. | 20:01 |
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| dwangoAC | KodiakF: I'd be curious what issues they ran into, however. | 20:01 |
| KodiakF | Maybe people from Mirantis could speak to why it doesn't pass muster for them to support in Fuel. I'm a Redhat user so I can't say | 20:01 |
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| dwangoAC | KodiakF: Ahh, OK. In that case, I can say from experience that Packstack is your friend and does everything I want... on the wrong package manager base. :) | 20:02 |
| KodiakF | I will say that Fuel is the leader of the pack for deployment tools so far as I've seen and can opine on | 20:02 |
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| dwangoAC | (That last bit was a subjective flamewar bait, my bad) | 20:02 |
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| dwangoAC | KodiakF: But Fuel is not Ubuntu compatible? I haven't looked into that one yet. | 20:02 |
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| KodiakF | It is - Mirantis supports 12.04 and CentOS 6.5 | 20:03 |
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| KodiakF | I'm a bit enamored with Mirantis at the moment. They have been really helpful to me as a non-paying customer and Fuel looks spectacular. | 20:03 |
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| KodiakF | I'm looking at that product for future deployments after I finish my v1 PoC cluster which has been a 100% manual labor of love | 20:04 |
| dwangoAC | KodiakF: yeah, I've had my fair share of doing it the manual way - it's a *lot* of work and not repeatable | 20:04 |
| dwangoAC | (As in, hard to get right every time) | 20:04 |
| KodiakF | We use Puppet in the enterprise so I'm mostly enforcing my work after the fact using that - and if we don't end up going w/ fuel, we'll just generalize our puppet configs | 20:05 |
| KodiakF | then it's repeatable | 20:05 |
| dwangoAC | KodiakF: Yeah, I'd be fine with Puppet or Salt, either one | 20:06 |
| KodiakF | if you can make it work once w/ puppet, and you generalize your modules, you can do it over and over again | 20:06 |
| dwangoAC | (I'm not much of a Ruby guy, but hey, Puppet gets the job done :) | 20:06 |
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| KodiakF | Puppet is adopted by Redhat to the extent that they are building their next-gen management products around it so we're doing puppet | 20:06 |
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| KodiakF | You free-wheeling Ubuntu hipsters I think are more on the Salt side ;) | 20:07 |
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| KodiakF | so it just depends on if you're a stuffy enterprise square like me or you're out there doing Ubuntu stuff w/ the cool kids | 20:08 |
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| KodiakF | IIRC Mirantis started out on Ubuntu and still has more experience / preference on that side, or so says the engineer I spoke with | 20:09 |
| KodiakF | so you might like Fuel | 20:09 |
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| dwangoAC | KodiakF: To be honest, my personal preference would be straight Debian | 20:11 |
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| dwangoAC | KodiakF: And while I don't have as much experience with Ruby, that's no reason to throw out a reliable system, so Puppet's even fine for me | 20:11 |
| KodiakF | We like it | 20:12 |
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| dwangoAC | KodiakF: Do they have an all-in-one guide for Fuel somewhere? | 20:12 |
| dwangoAC | KodiakF: I see https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Fuel | 20:12 |
| dwangoAC | As in, all on one server | 20:12 |
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| KodiakF | http://docs.mirantis.com/openstack/fuel/fuel-5.0/ | 20:13 |
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| KodiakF | I'm pretty sure you can't all-in-one a Fuel-deployed cluster but one of the Mirantis lurkers could probably set me straight if I'm wrong | 20:14 |
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| dwangoAC | KodiakF: Again, it's a matter of scale - I have to prove out that OpenStack is the right tool for the job of managing the in-house servers we use that are currently virtualized in libvirt | 20:14 |
| KodiakF | The Fuel box is an appliance that does stuff like PXE, cobbler, and puppet and you boot other boxes into a deployment role | 20:14 |
| dwangoAC | KodiakF: So I have to start with one system and then add more later | 20:14 |
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| dwangoAC | KodiakF: Umm... can't do that, our existing PXE server has to stay put, but we can add entries to that | 20:15 |
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| RichardRaseley | I am interested in using VXLAN instead of GRE in a test OpenStack environment which I am standing up. Is anyone willing to share any 'gotchas' or 'best practices' around swapping the two as it relates to following this (http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/install-guide/install/yum/content/neutron-ml2-network-node.html) guide, other than modifying the tunnel type and the VXLAN specific configuration bits? | 20:29 |
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| larsks | RichardRaseley: Just to be aware that vxlan has the same instance MTU issue that you find with GRE. | 20:30 |
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| RichardRaseley | larsks: I thought there were simply MTU adjustments that needed to be made on the tunnel network between compute hosts and the network controllers (to avoid fragmentation). Are you speaking of something else instance-specific? | 20:31 |
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| larsks | No, that's pretty much it...if your instance mtu is 1500 and your host/tunnel mtu is 1500, you will get fragmentation issues. If you're already aware of that, you're good to go. | 20:32 |
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| RichardRaseley | My understanding is I should use a host / tunnel MTU of 1600 (or >) combined with an instance MTU of 1500 - does that seem correct? | 20:33 |
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| dwangoAC | RichardRaseley: We were able to go with 1448, but we were using an instance that was limited to 1,500 | 20:34 |
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| dwangoAC | So because we couldn't go any higher than 1500 we went the other direction | 20:35 |
| RichardRaseley | Ah | 20:35 |
| RichardRaseley | Thanks for sharing. | 20:35 |
| dwangoAC | RichardRaseley: But, yes, in order to avoid severe fragmentation you will have to set the MTU values | 20:35 |
| RichardRaseley | dwangoAC: So you're using VXLAN currently? Care to share your impression? | 20:35 |
| dwangoAC | RichardRaseley: We had to do the MTU monkeying when we were using GRE tunnels, but we're now using a standard VLAN implementation - | 20:36 |
| RichardRaseley | OK | 20:36 |
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| RichardRaseley | What caused you to move away from GRE tunnels? | 20:36 |
| dwangoAC | RichardRaseley: We have a switch that is VLAN capable and we're taking the various compute servers in the POC and connecting them with different VLAN's | 20:36 |
| dwangoAC | RichardRaseley: Performance | 20:36 |
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| RichardRaseley | I see. | 20:36 |
| dwangoAC | RichardRaseley: Although at the end of the day an improved instance from the vendor ultimately helped more | 20:37 |
| dwangoAC | RichardRaseley: So use what will work best in your environment. | 20:37 |
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| dwangoAC | (Sorry, have to be cryptic here, this isn't a public POC) | 20:37 |
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| RichardRaseley | That's fine, I understand. Thanks for sharing. | 20:37 |
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| PsionTheory | guys you have a good command strategy to shut down openstack across the board (lab environment) as i integrate then reboot it with opendaylight capabilites | 20:44 |
| sc68cal | sort of joking - ./unstack.sh && ./stack.sh? | 20:46 |
| dwangoAC | PsionTheory: Um... I use the IPMI soft power off method, but that's probably not the recommended way to do it :) | 20:46 |
| sc68cal | but not really joking | 20:46 |
| dwangoAC | (And I'm definitely joking) | 20:46 |
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| dwangoAC | KodiakF: I don't think Fuel is a good choice for our environment - it seems far too high-availability and taking over PXE and DHCP focused for the internal invironment we have | 20:50 |
| dwangoAC | KodiakF: Thank you very much for pointing me at that potential method, however! | 20:50 |
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| dwangoAC | KodiakF: Did you have anything particularly against the openstackgeek approach? Specifically, security concerns or anything else critical I should take into consideration? | 20:50 |
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| PsionTheory | so in all seriousness ./unstack.sh && ./stack.sh | 20:52 |
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| Basil_Saito | I'd like it to be available for RHEL, is there a Chef recipe for that? | 20:53 |
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| |splat| | hey guys. I just changed my entire cluster over to bonded GbE ports. All the compute nodes are fine because I was able to set them up using the standard bonding, but my headnode i configured using “ovs-vsctl add-bond br-ex bond0 eth0 eth1” which seems to disappear whenever networking is restarted or the server is rebooted. | 20:59 |
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| |splat| | is there a config file somewhere I can modify to make that change permanent? | 20:59 |
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| larsks | |splat|: what distribution are you using? | 21:22 |
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| |splat| | larsks: centos 6 | 21:22 |
| |splat| | initally set up with RDO | 21:22 |
| larsks | |splat|: centos 6 (like other RHEL-derived systems) does network configuration in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts. You would need to set up an appropriate configuration there. | 21:23 |
| larsks | I haven't set up bonding with ovs, but looking at the ifup-ovs script it looks like there is support there. | 21:23 |
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| |splat| | so i see that my ifcfg-eth0 has type=“ovs” in it | 21:24 |
| larsks | Looking at that script, I think you could create an ifcfg-bond0 with DEVICETYPE=ovs and TYPE=OVSBond and BOND_INTERFACES="eth0 eth1" | 21:24 |
| |splat| | ahhh ok | 21:24 |
| larsks | And you would set up ifcfg-eth0 and ifcfg-eth1 as DEVICETYPE=ovs TYPE=OVSPort | 21:24 |
| larsks | |splat|: and note that wasn't a complete configuration; I'm just sort of thinking out loud... | 21:24 |
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| larsks | But I think that's most of it. | 21:25 |
| |splat| | right. i was confused then i saw the type=ovs, and searched for “openvswitch bonding” and came upon a page detailing how to use ovs-vsctl to create the bond | 21:25 |
| |splat| | which works, but doesn’t make it permanent | 21:25 |
| larsks | |splat|: So, here's the thing: if you removed ifcfg-br-ex, you could probably just use ovs-vsctl. | 21:25 |
| |splat| | i’ll give your version a try | 21:25 |
| |splat| | ah | 21:26 |
| larsks | |splat|: but because you have ifcfg-br-ex, your os is managing things, which means it removes the bridge on shutdown... | 21:26 |
| larsks | ...discarding any manual configuration. | 21:26 |
| |splat| | that makes sense | 21:26 |
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| |splat| | keep or remove OVS_BRIDGE=br-ex in ifcfg-eth0 | 21:29 |
| |splat| | probably remove and add that to bond0 | 21:29 |
| larsks | |splat|: You probably want to *remove* OVS_BRIDGE in ifcfg-eth0...right, what you just said. | 21:29 |
| |splat| | k jsut making sure i’m heading in the right direction | 21:29 |
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| |splat| | bleh, windows 2012 isn’t getting the MTU from dhcp. | 21:38 |
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| maletilla | that;s 1500 "always", isn't it ? | 21:45 |
| maletilla | why bother with dhcp or standard settings at all? | 21:46 |
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| |splat| | i had to modify the openvswitch to set mtu to 1454 to get decent network performance. i swear i remember testing that before and windows picked it up fine. | 21:46 |
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| |splat| | finally. got the lacp to work | 22:22 |
| |splat| | eth0 and eth1 needed to have just devicename in them basically. no ovs info | 22:22 |
| |splat| | similar to http://openvswitch.org/pipermail/discuss/2011-October/005845.html scroll down to bonding. | 22:23 |
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| achhabra | Hello, I would like to get involved in the code review for the storage project. | 22:33 |
| achhabra | Does anyone has any advice on how to get started? | 22:33 |
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| bkotewall | got a weird weird issue. | 22:34 |
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| bkotewall | keystone auths with credentials, cinder auths to keystone fine, as does swift. | 22:34 |
| bkotewall | but nova and glance do not | 22:35 |
| bkotewall | and I think ntp is fine and running on all machines | 22:35 |
| bkotewall | i've turned off ssl in keystone auth, as there was a bug report in the past | 22:35 |
| bkotewall | signing format is uuid | 22:35 |
| bkotewall | what am I missing? | 22:35 |
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| bkotewall | goddamnit... I literally had to reboot the openstack controller machine because of a power failure, was running fine for a year and now this | 22:48 |
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| dwangoAC | OK, next question - has anyone here played around with StackInsider tools? | 23:31 |
| dwangoAC | StackInsider has a very aggressive login policy - you get to see the first 5 steps for free, or you can wait 24 hours to see it | 23:31 |
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