Tuesday, 2014-08-19

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manfredeflynn: i just use virtualenvs and pip, but if you want to install them system wide it is best to use the distro packages00:06
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eflynnmanfred: ah00:06
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eflynnmanfred: you don’t install them systemwide?00:12
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manfredi use virtualenvs00:14
eflynnmanfred: ah, i see00:14
manfredhttp://virtualenvwrapper.readthedocs.org/en/latest/00:14
manfredand virtualenvwrapper00:14
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skylerWhat is the standard method for securely getting a private key into your instance at boot. Not a public key. A private key so that the instance can pulling some resources from somewhere else.01:48
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manfredskyler: using the file option?01:52
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manfredskyler: https://github.com/openstack/python-novaclient/blob/master/novaclient/v1_1/shell.py#L35101:53
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skylermanfred: I was thinking that, but I couldn't find an example of that for private keys, so I wasn't sure it was considered secure.01:56
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skylerAlso, thanks for helping me out across multiple IRC channels! I really appreciate it.01:57
manfredafaik, it isn't stored anywhere after the fact01:57
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skylerExcellent, that is exactly what I need then.01:58
manfred:) no worries, I am in here waiting for someone to answer my question so I can add better extension support to salt-cloud nova.py driver01:58
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topshareWhere's the submitted topic vote result?02:50
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sbfoxHi all, anyone here have experience/recommendations using hardware routers instead of namespace/neutron ?04:12
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preetican anyone tell me how to sign up as a user in openstack05:24
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sldpreeti: can you elaborate on that question, please?05:26
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chandrahi. I am facing this issue during live migration : virNetClientProgramDispatchError:175 : Unable to pre-create chardev file '/opt/stack/data/nova/instances/adc458a2-38bd-4ea9-a329-d9bfe18d6c04/console.log': No such file or directory05:57
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chandracan anyone of you help me on this05:57
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atmarkchandra: What's the value of instance_path in /etc/nova/nova.conf?06:03
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atmarkchandra: grep instance_path /etc/nova/nova.conf06:03
chandrapath is /opt/stack/data/nova/instance06:03
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fifieldt_It's community manager office hour! Come armed with questions, and I'll see what I can do to help. Anything OpenStack is up for discussion at #openstack-community .07:59
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tejuwill ironic work fine just with nova?08:19
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ujjainbooktips?08:40
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wojtczakI'm looking for some recovery options in case of node failure/restart. I thought that openstack has this figured out but doesn't look like it. In case of node failure its possible to evacuate all instances08:42
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wojtczakwhat if my node restarts? all instances are killed but when it boots up it nova thinks its fully operational08:43
wojtczakevacuate isn't possible any more08:43
wojtczakin such case we have to replace all instances, isn't there a better option?08:44
sgrannova reboot --hard ?08:44
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ujjainhow can I find out the version fo compute?08:48
ujjainhow do I know if icehouse or havanna08:49
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preeti when i am installing cent OS 6.5 my machine uing virtual box...i am getting warnin "The following preexisting partition have been selected to be formatted: destroying all data: /dev/sda...."DOes it affect my real windows Ata09:40
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janmejay|2is it possible to peg a compute-node to only use a certain ip-range?09:41
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janmejay|2i have tried creating several networks (using nova-networking) but any instance i bring up tries to get one IP from each network, have also tried network-associate-host, but that didn't help either09:44
janmejay|2im not sure if network-associate-host does what I want09:44
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satyaI have installed openstack havana on fedora 1910:13
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satyausing nova-network created vms but not able to ping or ssh the vm instance ip address10:14
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satyaI have installed openstack havana on fedora 19, using nova-network created vms but not able to ping or ssh the vm instance ip address10:14
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satyaCan somebody help me10:14
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P3n7u5hey10:17
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P3n7u5how can I add a volume to a running instance ??10:17
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tejusatya : r u able to ping instance from controller or compute node?10:48
satyaits a single node deployment10:48
satyai have added security group rules for tcp and icmp10:49
satyaeven after that also I am not able to ping10:49
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tejur u able to see the console in the dashboard?10:50
satyaconsole logs I can see10:51
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satyadid not find any error10:51
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tejunova secgroup-add-rule default icmp -1 -1 0.0.0.0/010:51
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tejunova secgroup-add-rule default tcp 22 22 0.0.0.0/010:52
satyaI added that rule10:52
satyabut still its not working10:52
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tejuwhat is the IP address assigned to the instance?10:53
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satya192.168.100.210:54
satyais vm ip address10:54
satyaand controller ip is 10.0.2.1510:54
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tejur u able to login to the VM from the dashboard?10:55
satyaI mean my machine ip10:55
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satyadashboard I have not installed10:59
satyaall commands I am trying from cli10:59
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anand_tssatya: output of nova show instanceUUID?10:59
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satyaHi Anand, its installed in my virtual box so not able to copy, do you want to check any specific value in nova show <instance-id> out put11:04
anand_tssatya: instance is getting any IP?11:05
satyayes instance is getting ip11:05
satyawhatever the network I created from that it is getting ip11:06
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satyai tried all the options given in web forum but not able to identify the root cause11:06
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satyaI am using nova-network11:06
anand_tssatya: ifconfig output? you can ssh to the host in virtual box and copy the output11:06
satyalet me try that11:07
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cyberworm541is anybody aware of a way to add a management node to an existing openstack environment?12:31
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sgranyou point them to the existing databases and then add them to the load balancer?12:32
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cyberworm541correct....but that means we will have to install all the components manually....12:33
cyberworm541I thought packstack was able to do this..12:33
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KodiakFNot that it'll help you now but Mirantis Fuel allegedly does this seamlessly12:34
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cyberworm541KodiakF: Nice! I wonder how they do it... We are running Redhat's openstack and apparently installing *everything* manually is the only way...which seems ridiculous12:38
KodiakFcyberworm541:  I just finished what you are doing generally - I did the manual installs w/ qpidd, ML2, GRE, but w/ a single controller12:38
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KodiakFthere is no way we are doing it manually for Juno or whatever k-release is called12:39
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KodiakFwe are going to use the free Fuel to test it out and buy the full product for final deployment12:39
cyberworm541Yeah it is going to be...fun.... plus we are using pacemaker >.>12:39
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KodiakFI didn't trust packstack - no offense to the rhel guys since they are great - we just wanted to run it manual as a learning experience and to be sure we understood where everything landed12:40
KodiakFFuel does HA automatically w/ pacemaker and corosync12:40
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cyberworm541Really? Out of the box?12:40
KodiakFit uses PXE and cobbler to stand up new components and you just assign them to roles12:40
anand_tsKodiakF: Can we install Fuel in VMware esxi ?12:40
cyberworm541Ah I see, I think foreman can do that but as far as I know the HA piece is not ready yet.12:41
KodiakFWe'd planned on installing the Fuel controller as an ESXi VM as well but are just going to repurpose some modest hardware12:41
KodiakFWe only use Foreman for reporting since it can't do good version control and ACLs like we have in place for our enterprise puppet12:42
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KodiakFFuel is puppet, cobbler, PXE, and a bunch of other stuff all rolled into a single host - it appears so far to make everything hella easy12:42
KodiakFit even automatically manages ceph in addition to the HA12:42
KodiakFI sound like a bit of a fanboy - whoops12:43
anand_tsKodiakF: pls don't tell that you works for Mirantis :)12:43
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sldanand_ts: lol12:43
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cyberworm541Well....re-installing *everything* once a management node goes to shit is not a desire path...obviously12:44
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KodiakFdo good backups - that's our plan w/ our single controller12:45
cyberworm541We have 3 management nodes in HA12:45
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KodiakFthough I do hope we deploy Juno via Fuel and get off the single-controller setup - ours is really just a proof of concept12:45
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cyberworm541well 2 now since the other one died12:46
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KodiakFyou deployed 3-controller HA via packstack?12:47
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cyberworm541We deployed 3 controllers via packstack. HA was done separate12:48
cyberworm541Packstack can't do HA12:48
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KodiakFAlright then yea look at Fuel - wont help you now, but should make life much easier in the future after some initial setup.12:51
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udaycode1anybody working on the icehouse horizon here?12:52
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udaycode1i am extending icehouse horizon and I am having issues with angular template rendering13:03
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kaisan_If I'm setting up Openstack to only have provider networks, would I need that extra neutron node in my setup, or can I skip that, and only have the neutron-api?13:06
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exed_i know that it somehow maybe sounds wrong but is there a common way to grant access to dedicated instances from the host? so compute/controller/network-node can access one particular instance.13:11
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jedixAnyone know what component the dashboard uses to get a list of projects?  I'm seeing this: "Error: Unable to retrieve project list." and was wonderign what component I ahve not properly configured.13:16
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georgem2jedix:keystone, your old friend :)13:16
KodiakFanand_ts:  nope, I'm pretty new to ostack and just work at a college13:17
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Sam-I-Amor your user isnt part of the _member_ role13:17
jedixgeorgem2: I have it _almost_ working13:17
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anand_tsKodiakF: okay cool13:17
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jedixSam-I-Am: apparently identity_uri does not need v2.0 at the end, as auth_uri did.13:17
jedixthis user is admin, and is a _member_ and admin.13:18
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jedixwhatever is using the uri probably has an extra v2.0 in there again.13:18
anand_tsjedix: edit /etc/openstack-dashboard/local_settings file and try to OPENSTACK_KEYSTONE_DEFAULT_ROLE = "_member_" to "admin"13:18
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Havardi am sure i got a stupid question :-) but since i am not very techy of me, i just have to ask ;-) I am new to OpenStack, we have been trying out OnApp but found that to be very buggy (special their Intergraded Storage solution). Now we will test OpenStack on our servers. The big question is if it is possible to run HV (compute) and storage from the same nodes/servers?13:23
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Havard(i can add that we also have been trying flexiant with ceph, but ceph requires more hardware than we got (three monitor nodes))13:24
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georgem2Havard: sure, but what do you mean by storage? Cinder?13:25
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Havardgeorgem2: thanks, we have not made any choice for the storage solution. With OnApp we tried out their intergraded storage, i have not read enough about OpenStack yet to say what we will use13:26
Havardgeorgem2: the intergraded storage lets you bundle the hard drives in all nodes/servers to some kind of a "SAN" (all servers are connected with 10G network to make the link between as fast as possible)13:27
Havardi guess that is some kind of "distributed block storage device"13:27
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georgem2Havard: I would not  necessarily recommend to mix cpu workloads with storage on the same physical server, especially in a multi-tenant environment but it can work13:28
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Havardgeorgem2: so that means that we (for the best performance) should run compute on one node, and than attache some kind of storage to that?13:28
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georgem2Havard: yes, you can have Linux servers with KVM as a hypervisor and also running ceph or gluster on some of the local drives creating a distributed storage13:29
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Havardgeorgem2: thanks a lot, we will test some different solutions since we got 3 nodes/servers + one for the controlling system available after testing onapp and flexiant. :-)13:30
manfredI am looking for some information on how novaclient loads plugins, so that I can load them automatically inside my own class in salt-cloud nova.py driver instead of having to specify them, cause I have been unable to use the rax-default-network-flags-python-novaclient-ext plugin to set the default nics for rackspace's cloud.13:30
manfredhttp://paste.gtmanfred.com/T1l/13:30
Havardmy tech signed of for today, so he just left me to install a clean centos on all of them ;-)13:30
georgem2Havard: the problem I see with mixing instances and storage is that the instances on NodeA might be impacted by I/O load done by instances on NodeB, C and D, in addition to bandwitdh contention13:30
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jedixwas yesterday some holiday for a lot of you guys?  it was much more quiet.13:35
anand_tsjedix: your issue got resolved?13:35
georgem2jedix: yes, the holiday was called Monday :)13:36
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jedixanand_ts: I have to rebuild my image.. I had screwed up something in my git repo13:36
jedixaccidently dropped my .bb changes to keystone :/13:37
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Havardgeorgem2: yeah, i see that, that is why we have 10k SAS drives and 10G network between, to try make those changes go smooth :-) That is by the way the recommended setup from OnApp, so i guess since it is working for them it should be possible with OpenStack as well... But as I said, we are just testing, so we will se how the performance will be after a while13:38
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Havardjedix: in norway we call it  a "blue monday" :-) the day for hangovers ;-)13:38
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zilbersteinhello #openstack14:23
zilberstein"""14:23
jedixanand_ts..14:23
zilbersteinVolumeBackendAPIException_Remote(u'Bad or unexpected response from the storage volume backend API: Unable to fetch connection information from backend: Bad or unexpected response from the storage volume backend API: The volume driver requires the iSCSI initiator name in the connector.14:23
jedixhrm14:23
zilberstein"""14:23
zilbersteinwhat does this mean ?14:23
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jedixwhere'd he go..14:23
zilberstein( cinder )14:23
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jedixError: Unable to retrieve project list.14:25
jedixdamn.14:25
jedixthat did not fix the issue.14:26
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bilco105Anyone seen this error on horizon havana when querying ceilometer... {"error_message": {"debuginfo": null, "faultcode": "Server", "faultstring": "metaquery not implemented"}}14:44
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mnaserbilco105: what backend are you using?14:47
bilco105mysql14:47
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mnaserbilco105: check out the grid for state of backends, i believe some backends dont support some features14:49
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bilco105MySQL supports them all apparently14:58
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manfredI am looking for some information on how novaclient loads plugins, so that I can load them automatically inside my own class in salt-cloud nova.py driver15:02
manfredinstead of having to specify them, cause I have been unable to use the rax-default-network-flags-python-novaclient-ext plugin to set the default nics for15:02
manfredrackspace's cloud.15:02
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gregmarkWithout any warning, the VNC console sessions in my OpenStack Grizzly horizon console started to fail. All of them.15:09
gregmarkRestarted nova services on controller and httpd.  Didn't help.  Not sure what to do next….15:09
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jtd__that's a KVM feature, isn't it?15:09
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jtd__can you use the KVM management tools to poke at it?15:09
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jpichgregmark: How does it fail? Are the Nova consoleauth and novnc services up and running? Anything of interest in their logs?15:10
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gregmarkGood questions. So by fail, I mean that the console tab of any of my 200+ VMs comes up with that red "Failed to connect" bar.15:12
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gregmarkI literally just noticed this 10 minutes ago. Nothing's jumped out at me in the logs yet… poking, as jtd said15:12
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jtd__gregmark: Stupid question: not sure how VNC'y it really is. Does trying a VNC connection to the instances' IPs work?15:13
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gregmarkGood question, I'll try that next15:14
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gregmarktelnet sessions open to the 59xx ports15:16
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gregmarkso either the novnc proxy is failing or maybe something goofy network wise, outside of OpenStack has failed… this is weird15:17
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gregmarkjtd__: works if I get a session from get-vnc-console and paste it into a new browser tab.15:22
gregmarkjtd__: and now it works from Horizon!15:22
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jpichhuh15:23
gregmarkI don't get it. All I did was get get-vnc-console. That couldn't have done anything, right?15:23
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gregmarkI restarted nova services about 10 minutes ago.15:23
jpichI don't think, that's the same API call Horizon makes to pick up the URL15:23
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gregmarkright, that's what I thought15:23
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gregmarkWell… that was an interesting troubleshooting exercise. I was in a cold panic for a few minutes there. Thanks jpich, thanks jtd. Going to chalk that up to network nonsense.15:25
gregmarknothing seemed broken15:25
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gregmarknot on OpStk anyway15:25
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jedixit looks like dashboard is not constructing some of the URLs using the correct uri.16:01
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jtd__can anyone help me with a nova networking issue? I've been following this guide: http://www.stackgeek.com/guides/gettingstarted.html and am using flatdhcp networking. My LAN subnet is 192.168.1.0/24 and my OpenStack VM subnet is 10.0.1.0/24. As suggested in the guide, I created a static route on my router to handle traffic between LANs and the internet. Instances can reach addresses on the LAN as well as addresses on the internet, but no machines on the LAN ca16:09
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jedix192.168.122.2 - - [19/Aug/2014:16:24:04 +0000] "GET /v2.0/tenants HTTP/1.1" 404 21016:24
jedix192.168.122.2 - - [19/Aug/2014:16:24:04 +0000] "POST /keystone/main/v2.0/tokens HTTP/1.1" 200 130916:24
jedix192.168.122.2 - - [19/Aug/2014:16:24:04 +0000] "GET /keystone/main/v2.0/tenants HTTP/1.1" 200 13316:24
jedix..one of these things is not like the other :/16:24
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jedixit looks like dashboard is not constructing the correct url in two cases.16:24
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jedixthe overview and the volumes both request /v2.0/tenants16:25
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rick_Bryanstein: HI, Are you Jay Bryant?16:27
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Bryansteinrick_, No16:27
rick_Bryanstein: Sorry.16:27
Bryansteinlol, it's ok...hope you find him16:27
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devoidwe're having issues with our nova-network service… with one network, nova-network fails to startup after a traceback in the dnsmasq command for that network.16:47
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georgem2devoid:what's in the traceback?16:48
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devoidunfortunately dnsmasq and the nova-dhcpbridge command won't run manually...16:48
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manfredI am looking for some information on how novaclient loads plugins, so that I can load them automatically inside my own class in salt-cloud nova.py driver16:50
manfredinstead of having to specify them, cause I have been unable to use the rax-default-network-flags-python-novaclient-ext plugin to set the default nics for16:50
manfredrackspace's cloud.16:50
manfredhttp://paste.gtmanfred.com/T1l/16:50
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devoidgeorgem2: here's the traceback http://paste.openstack.org/show/97382/16:50
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devoidI've tried running that command on my own (su'd to nova user) and it fails for a different bizarro reason having to do with configuration files and environment variables16:51
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devoidwe've found that we can disable some fixed_ips (e.g. set deleted!=0) we can get nova-network to start.16:52
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georgem2devoid: any chance is a disk issue?16:54
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jedixanyone use keystone on apache with dashboard?16:55
jedixI'm having a few URLs fail.  they don't seem to be using the OPENSTACK_KEYSTONE_URL16:55
georgem2manfred:you should talk to rackspace support16:55
manfredit isn't a rackspace thing16:55
manfredit is a novaclient thing16:55
manfredit is how novaclient loads plugins16:56
devoidgeorgem2: probably not? I can't see why it would be?16:56
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georgem2manfred: are you using to talk to the rackspace API?16:56
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devoidgeorgem2: anyhow this machine is hw raided and running happily16:56
manfredgeorgem2: i am using it to just load a plugin in the novaclient class16:56
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georgem2devoid: just a guess...make sure you have nothing mounted RO16:56
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devoido.O …16:57
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devoidlemme run windows update as well /sarcasm16:58
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georgem2devoid: usually when I see "IOError:17:00
georgem2I check the filesystem to make sure it's not remounted as read-only17:01
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manfredgeorgem2: the extension works fine with straight novaclient, no worries, but when attempting to us it in my own class that is using novaclient stuff, it doesn't load the extensions correctly... but I am probably not loading the extensions into the class correclty somehow17:04
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georgem2manfred: sorry, I cannot help you but you might have more luck in the dev channel17:06
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georgem2manfred: I just saw you posted this question a few times with nobody answering17:07
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manfredyar17:08
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manfredi work at rackspace, and have been trying to find some people here without much luck, I tried the #openstack-nova channel and they said to try here17:08
manfredis it just #openstack-dev?17:08
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georgem2manfred:https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/IRC17:09
manfredyar, found it thanks17:09
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jedixwhere does the dashboard get url for post refresh?17:23
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jedixit is not including the version..17:23
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MilesDenverAnyone know about Mirantis OpenStack?  Like how do they make money?  Do they charge for support?  is it optional support?17:51
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Sam-I-AmMilesDenver: professional services.17:52
Sam-I-AmMilesDenver: one size does not fit all17:52
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MilesDenverhmmm…. maybe I'll actually attempt to call them.17:52
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Sam-I-Amthere's a handful of somewhat similar products out there17:53
MilesDenverI've a feeling it's not gonna work for me…. when they hide the commercial component of a product it's generally not good news17:53
Sam-I-Amcommercial component?17:53
MilesDenverSam-I-Am: sure, how much it costs, how they make money, etc.17:54
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KodiakFobservation:  neutron quota-update --floatingip 0 ...is flipping worse than useless...  quota still shows at 50 in horizon and you just get a bogus looking horizon error when trying to launch the instance.  I see now that this has to be set w/ nova quota-update argh17:56
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FatDarrelhey guys is thre a room for neutron-ML2 related discussions?17:59
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Sam-I-AmMilesDenver: if it wasnt profitable, they wouldnt do it.17:59
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FatDarrelI need to restart my nodes after a neutron ml2 plugin install is there a way to do it without reboot?17:59
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Sam-I-AmFatDarrel: what did you install/change?18:00
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Sam-I-Amgenerally nothing in openstack requires a reboot18:00
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FatDarrelSam-I-Am: I think the vlan tags are being cached improperly18:01
Sam-I-Amcached?18:01
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KodiakFMilesDenver - we're in talks with Mirantis right now as well - Fuel is free but support obviously isn't18:02
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FatDarrelI thnk some of the openvswitch services are cacheing some of the vlans18:02
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KodiakFthe sales rep said that "industry leading support is their product", (along w/ hosted openstack) and that free Fuel is bit-for-bit the same as paid-for Mirantis Openstack18:03
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FatDarrelKodiakF: which rep?18:03
KodiakFThey license based on Openstack hardware node numbers18:03
KodiakFin tiers of 10, 20, or... "more"18:03
KodiakFErica Pace - I wish she'd rematerialize with our quote lol - it's budget season18:03
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Sam-I-Ammost of the wrapped-openstack vendors offer the product for free, but charge for support18:04
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FatDarrelAnyway18:04
FatDarrelopenvswithch with ml2 is a bit of apin18:04
FatDarrelpenvswithch with ml2 is a bit of a pain18:04
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Sam-I-AmFatDarrel: i still dont understand your problem18:05
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FatDarrelSo after I install icehouse with ml2 networking18:05
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FatDarrelnone of the vms work. they don't get ip addresses18:05
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Sam-I-Amcould be a number of problems18:05
FatDarrelbut rebooting the hosts (all the linux hypervisor boxen) we are golden18:05
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KodiakFprobably iptables rules then FatDarrel18:06
FatDarrelyeah did that didn't help18:07
KodiakFI noticed our enterprise delivered IPTables rules dindn't include protocol 47 after setting up my hosts and that caused DHCP weirdness where they would work and then sometimes wouldn't18:07
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KodiakFdrops should be logged to the neutron node and compute node's /var/log/messages18:07
FatDarrelyeah saw that18:07
KodiakFalso it's probably time to start tcpdumping ALL THE THINGS18:07
MilesDenverKodiakF: Just spoke with Erica Pace… told her you were looking for a quote.  She says it's coming from someone else, but it's on the way.18:07
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KodiakFThanks MilesDenver, super good experience so far all things considered18:08
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FatDarrelKodiakF: I think just a bit better ml2 startup and verification before exposing the service would've caught it18:08
KodiakFWorking on running Fuel in a 100% KVM based lab at home when I have time - so far looks awesome18:08
KodiakFFatDarrel:  if it's related to GRE stuff being blocked that's our bad as admins, not openstack or the ML2 plugin IMO18:09
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KodiakFor any other non-Openstack managed iptables issue for that matter18:09
FatDarrelKodiakF: can you expalin that?18:10
MilesDenverFYI: looks like Mirantis wants to make their tools available without charge is you keep below 10 nodes.  Then it's support time…. but you can get support with fewer than 10 nodes if you want18:10
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KodiakFBest advice I can give when seeing what you are seeing is start watching all the phys host iptables drop logs and also tcpdump ALL THE THINGS18:10
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KodiakFand by tcpdump all the things I mean start out at the GRE tunnels to divide your problem domain18:10
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FatDarrelKodiakF: yeah well GRE is a good place to start18:11
KodiakFthen work from one side to the other depending on where you see the dhcp requests and where you dont18:11
KodiakFtcpdump -i {gre phys iface} proto gre18:11
Sam-I-Amproduction openstack without support, or without really deep knowledge of all the things and development connections, is probably not a Good Thing18:11
KodiakFstart w/ a tcpdump on both ends of gre (neutron, compute)18:11
mnaserSam-I-Am: dont froget (TM) next to Not a Good Thing18:11
mnaser:p18:11
Sam-I-Amyou either build your own team of full time folks or get support18:11
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Sam-I-Ammnaser: yes18:11
KodiakFSam-I-Am - we just call it a beta service18:12
Sam-I-Amha18:12
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KodiakFI kind of feel like I need to attribute Sam-I-Am and larsks whenever I hand out Neutron troubleshooting advice also, they just walked me through all of it not a week ago18:12
KodiakFFatDarrel:  If you don't already know where to dump ifaces looking for your problem, read through this:  http://blog.oddbit.com/2013/11/14/quantum-in-too-much-detail/18:13
KodiakFthat's larsks *very good* post on where things connect18:14
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kryptohi i am trying to create instance from snapshots but its not getting IP as it doesnt have an interface eth1,how can i remove udev rules from snapshot,is there an openstack way of removing udev rules automatically beofore instance is spawned18:16
mnaserkrypto: no, ideally the snapshot/base image should have that already done18:16
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davidbowlbywhat was the base os for your snapshot18:16
mnaserbut what usually happens is it creates a new interface and gets the ip config on it anyways18:16
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KodiakFkrypto:  check out virt-sysprep18:19
kryptowhen i created the base image i configured eth0 with dhcp,after installing cloud-init i removed udev rules.it was working fine until i made some changes to instance and created a snapshot out of it,now all new instance are failing to get IP due to existing udev rules for eth018:19
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davidbowlbykrypto, what OS?18:20
kryptocentos6.518:20
KodiakFyou're going to have to re-remove the udev stuff (likely w/ virt-sysprep)18:20
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kryptoKodiakF :  do i need to do that on all snapshots?18:21
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KodiakFjust the one you want to treat like an image18:21
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kryptoi think that works only if we have access to disk image,18:22
KodiakFyep - you'd probably have to re-upload it18:22
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KodiakFI think you want to treat images as un-messed-with golden images to boot from - so get it just the way you want, then re-up18:23
kryptowe have many users with different instances,they make changes and create vm from that snapshot.18:24
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KodiakFthen they need to fix their images and re-up18:25
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KodiakFanyone know how to get the number of floating IPs to actually show as 0 in horizon's tenant overview page after setting the num float IPs to 018:29
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MilesDenverhmmm…. either its a refresh thing, or you have something still holding an IP…. a project or instance18:29
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KodiakFlooks like the only way I can really make it appear is to mod the quota to 0 via admin session w/ horizon18:30
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KodiakFso setting it to zero w/ nova quota-update AND neutron quota-update make it happen - peeps can't get a float IP, but they still show in horizon18:31
KodiakFnot the end of the world, just wish I could figure out what is being done in horizon that I'm missing in CLI18:31
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KodiakFand nothing is holding an IP and a login/logout as a _member_ in that tenant in horizon didn't do it, but after setting to 0 in horizon's admin portal it appeared right away as the _member_ of the tenant in overview18:33
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KodiakFbuggish IMO but I'm not ready to flat out call it as such and file on it18:33
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sputnik13we're seeing some VMs being very laggy, I'm pinging the VM1, the host that VM1 is on, and VM2 on the same host as VM1, and VM2 and the host come back ok19:27
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sputnik13but VM1 takes up to 10 seconds to respond to some pings, and the lagginess is seemingly sporadic19:28
sputnik13pings come back in less than 1ms most of the time then it kind of pauses for a bit, the packets aren't being dropped but the response takes up to 10 seconds to come back19:28
sputnik13all the while, the ping to VM2 and the host consistently come back oK19:28
sputnik13there isn't a lot of CPU being used on VM1 either19:29
jtd__what kind of networking are you using?19:29
sputnik13neutron19:29
jtd__is Neutron complaining about anything in Splunk?19:29
sputnik13I don't think it's a neutron issue given that the other VM (VM2) is fine19:29
sputnik13no splunk, and I don't know what neutron would complain about since it's not a setup issue19:30
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* jtd__ shrugs19:30
sputnik13neutron configures ovs and iptables, from that point on it's ovs and iptables handling the networking no?19:30
jtd__I'm having network problems too on my lab install.19:30
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jtd__but I'm just using Nova networking so I can't be super helpful there.19:31
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sputnik13jtd__: well thanks for the help regardless19:31
sputnik13anyone else seen something like this?19:31
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jtd__networking in OpenStack in general seems like a fickle beast.19:33
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jtd__my instances can reach the internet and the "regular" network, but the "regular" network can't reach the instances.19:33
jtd__and I'm just using FlatDHCP and a static route on my router to talk between the networks.19:33
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jtd__*SHOULD* be simple, but, well, OpenStack.19:34
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bbhello: i installed RDO using packstack and created a 2 subnets, private and public. On the private, fired a VM and assigned a floating ip.19:38
georgem2sputnik13:you could tcpdump on the instance to see if the icmp requests get there in time19:38
bbI am able to ping the gateway which is the router. THis is a private ip but unable to ping the floating ip. Any help would be great19:38
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sputnik13georgem2: I suppose that would at least tell me if the packet is getting stuck in some queue or something before it hits the instance...  I'll give that a try19:41
sputnik13georgem2: thanks19:41
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georgem2sputnik13:you could also ping vmA from vmB to see if it's ok, so traffic would be local to that openvswitch19:47
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jtd__can anyone help me with a nova networking issue? I've been following this guide: http://www.stackgeek.com/guides/gettingstarted.html and am using flatdhcp networking. My LAN subnet is 192.168.1.0/24 and my OpenStack VM subnet is 10.0.1.0/24. As suggested in the guide, I created a static route on my router to handle traffic between LANs and the internet. Instances can reach addresses on the LAN as well as addresses on the internet, but no machines on the LAN ca20:41
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jedixjtd__: your message was too long for IRC to send21:00
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jedix"but no machines on the LAN ca   "21:00
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jtd__"can reach any OpenStack instances (i.e. the 10.0.1.0/24 network). Anyone have any ideas how I can fix this? Screenshots available upon request."21:02
jtd__thanks jedix21:02
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jtd__woulda been nice if you'd MENTIONED THAT, Freenode -_-21:02
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sputnik13from what I can see so far all packets make it to the TAP interface of the VM just fine, but whenever we have the lag, it seems like the VM locks up for a few seconds and doesn't handle the ping requests22:00
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mnaseri think22:04
mnaseryou will be very happy to know that22:04
mnaserwait before i become trigger happy22:05
mnaserubuntu host?22:05
mnaser(i had that same issue which took me a billion years to find)22:05
sputnik13sorry, know what?22:05
mnaserhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/134691722:05
mnasercheck that out22:05
sputnik13mnaser: yes ubuntu22:05
mnaserthere's your issue ;)22:05
mnaserdisable ksm or upgrade kernel (this drove me nuts)22:05
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mnaseri dont have a lot of context but fairly sure its that22:05
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sputnik13mnaser, thanks for the tip22:08
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sputnik13mnaser: when you had this issue was it happening on every VM?22:08
mnaseryes22:08
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mnaserpings timing out22:08
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mnaserhigh load averages (for no reason)22:08
sputnik13mnaser: ok, that's helpful, I'll look at this further, but I don't think it's the same problem22:09
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mnaserfair enough22:09
sputnik13mnaser: I put another VM on the same host and that VM has no such issue22:09
mnaseri think its when ksm kicks in or ksm-related instances get messy22:10
sputnik13mnaser: what is ksm?22:10
mnaseri think it's worth a shot to disable and evict all ksm pages and check it (if you have an affecte dkernel)22:10
mnaserKSM is kernel same-page merging.. basically memory deduplication22:10
sputnik13mnaser: hmm, ok, can you disable ksm on a live system?22:11
mnaseryes, i did it safely22:11
mnaserlet me find it for a sec22:11
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mnasersputnik13: echo 2 > /sys/kernel/mm/ksm/run22:15
mnaserthe command will freeze for a bit22:15
mnaseras it restores memory pages22:15
sputnik13mnaser: does that disable ksm altogether?22:16
mnaseryeah22:16
mnaserbut it will also restore memory pages and remove the deduplication22:16
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sputnik13mnaser: ok, well, trying it...  it's freezing for a long time like you said :-)22:20
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mnaseryeah, it's basically taking all the duplicated memory pages, moving them to their own page in memory22:20
gleami had that happen with ksm too, actually22:21
mnasergleam: the bug is now fixed thankfully22:21
qhartmanI'm looking at enabling striping on my openstack cluster to attempt to improve throughput. Has anyone here done that? It sounds a bit fiddly.22:21
gleamwas it kvm or ksm?22:21
gleamoh i see the lp link22:21
sputnik13I think I started having more issues when I upgraded my kernel to the raring HWE pack22:21
sputnik13from 12.0422:21
qhartmanderp, I left out the detail that this is ceph client data striping, as in:  http://ceph.com/docs/master/architecture/#data-striping22:22
sputnik13so this would kind of make sense...22:22
gleamthx, mnaser22:22
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sputnik13if it is indeed the problem22:22
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mnaserprobably best to hit trusty kernel too, raring is already eol'd.. id suggest installing the trusty hwe pack22:23
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sputnik13I think I might be on trusty actually22:25
sputnik13aptitude says that I have linux-generic-lts-trusty installed22:25
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qhartmanalso, all the docs I've seen for this talk about setting it up for cephfs use, not the direct librbd access that openstack / qemu uses. Any pointers to docs for that use case?22:27
sputnik13I might be celebrating too earl, but I think this might be it22:27
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sputnik13I hate having to just watch a screen for undefined amounts of time to verify things22:28
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sputnik13but it hasn't lagged in the last minute22:28
mnasersputnik13: it's done? and the machine seems to be okay? :)22:28
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sputnik13mnaser: yeah I had a scare for a bit where the VM I was pinging wouldn't respond for a while but it came back22:29
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sputnik13and like I said it hasn't lagged again in the last 2 minutes now22:29
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mnasersputnik13: i have graphite telling me the servrs with highest load/iowait22:29
mnaserafter fidning the issue22:30
mnaserhttp://puu.sh/aq6yV/07b9139470.png22:30
sputnik13that's a huge change22:30
sputnik13mnaser: awesome, dude I need to buy you beer or something :-D22:30
mnaserhaha, enjoy :)22:30
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sputnik13mnaser: how did you disable it on boot?22:30
mnasersputnik13: i'd suggest you just upgrade your kernel and on the next reboot, it wont be an issue22:31
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sputnik13mnaser: I can't reboot for another couple of weeks, this is a production cluster22:32
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sputnik13mnaser: what kernel version are you running?22:32
sputnik13I have 3.13.0.-3222:32
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mnasersputnik13: id just disable it on the hosts, and make sure you're update to at least linux-image-3.13.0-33-generic22:33
mnaserthat was the one that fixed it22:33
mnaserand then what will happen is upon reboot, ksm will be back and it'll run fine22:33
sputnik13mnaser: awesome, thank you so much :-)22:33
mnaserlast i rebooted i was up to 3.13.0-34-generic22:34
mnaserand that doesnt have any issues22:34
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sputnik13mnaser: yeah the lates looks like 3.13.0.34.3022:34
sputnik13I'm on 3.13.0.32.2822:35
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mnaserwhat i did was disable ksm on everything, update all servers, and then i can just reboot anytime i plan and everything should be okay22:35
mnaserbeen running with the exact ksm disable i gave you for a few weeks, no problems so you can leave it as is22:35
sputnik13mnaser: awesome, thanks so much22:36
mnasernp :)22:36
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