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| manfred | eflynn: i just use virtualenvs and pip, but if you want to install them system wide it is best to use the distro packages | 00:06 |
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| eflynn | manfred: you don’t install them systemwide? | 00:12 |
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| manfred | i use virtualenvs | 00:14 |
| eflynn | manfred: ah, i see | 00:14 |
| manfred | http://virtualenvwrapper.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ | 00:14 |
| manfred | and virtualenvwrapper | 00:14 |
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| skyler | What is the standard method for securely getting a private key into your instance at boot. Not a public key. A private key so that the instance can pulling some resources from somewhere else. | 01:48 |
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| manfred | skyler: using the file option? | 01:52 |
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| manfred | skyler: https://github.com/openstack/python-novaclient/blob/master/novaclient/v1_1/shell.py#L351 | 01:53 |
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| skyler | manfred: I was thinking that, but I couldn't find an example of that for private keys, so I wasn't sure it was considered secure. | 01:56 |
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| skyler | Also, thanks for helping me out across multiple IRC channels! I really appreciate it. | 01:57 |
| manfred | afaik, it isn't stored anywhere after the fact | 01:57 |
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| skyler | Excellent, that is exactly what I need then. | 01:58 |
| manfred | :) no worries, I am in here waiting for someone to answer my question so I can add better extension support to salt-cloud nova.py driver | 01:58 |
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| topshare | Where's the submitted topic vote result? | 02:50 |
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| sbfox | Hi all, anyone here have experience/recommendations using hardware routers instead of namespace/neutron ? | 04:12 |
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| preeti | can anyone tell me how to sign up as a user in openstack | 05:24 |
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| sld | preeti: can you elaborate on that question, please? | 05:26 |
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| chandra | hi. I am facing this issue during live migration : virNetClientProgramDispatchError:175 : Unable to pre-create chardev file '/opt/stack/data/nova/instances/adc458a2-38bd-4ea9-a329-d9bfe18d6c04/console.log': No such file or directory | 05:57 |
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| chandra | can anyone of you help me on this | 05:57 |
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| atmark | chandra: What's the value of instance_path in /etc/nova/nova.conf? | 06:03 |
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| atmark | chandra: grep instance_path /etc/nova/nova.conf | 06:03 |
| chandra | path is /opt/stack/data/nova/instance | 06:03 |
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| ujjain | booktips? | 08:40 |
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| wojtczak | I'm looking for some recovery options in case of node failure/restart. I thought that openstack has this figured out but doesn't look like it. In case of node failure its possible to evacuate all instances | 08:42 |
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| wojtczak | what if my node restarts? all instances are killed but when it boots up it nova thinks its fully operational | 08:43 |
| wojtczak | evacuate isn't possible any more | 08:43 |
| wojtczak | in such case we have to replace all instances, isn't there a better option? | 08:44 |
| sgran | nova reboot --hard ? | 08:44 |
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| preeti | when i am installing cent OS 6.5 my machine uing virtual box...i am getting warnin "The following preexisting partition have been selected to be formatted: destroying all data: /dev/sda...."DOes it affect my real windows Ata | 09:40 |
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| janmejay|2 | is it possible to peg a compute-node to only use a certain ip-range? | 09:41 |
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| janmejay|2 | i have tried creating several networks (using nova-networking) but any instance i bring up tries to get one IP from each network, have also tried network-associate-host, but that didn't help either | 09:44 |
| janmejay|2 | im not sure if network-associate-host does what I want | 09:44 |
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| satya | I have installed openstack havana on fedora 19 | 10:13 |
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| satya | using nova-network created vms but not able to ping or ssh the vm instance ip address | 10:14 |
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| satya | I have installed openstack havana on fedora 19, using nova-network created vms but not able to ping or ssh the vm instance ip address | 10:14 |
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| satya | Can somebody help me | 10:14 |
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| P3n7u5 | how can I add a volume to a running instance ?? | 10:17 |
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| teju | satya : r u able to ping instance from controller or compute node? | 10:48 |
| satya | its a single node deployment | 10:48 |
| satya | i have added security group rules for tcp and icmp | 10:49 |
| satya | even after that also I am not able to ping | 10:49 |
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| teju | r u able to see the console in the dashboard? | 10:50 |
| satya | console logs I can see | 10:51 |
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| satya | did not find any error | 10:51 |
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| teju | nova secgroup-add-rule default icmp -1 -1 0.0.0.0/0 | 10:51 |
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| teju | nova secgroup-add-rule default tcp 22 22 0.0.0.0/0 | 10:52 |
| satya | I added that rule | 10:52 |
| satya | but still its not working | 10:52 |
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| teju | what is the IP address assigned to the instance? | 10:53 |
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| satya | 192.168.100.2 | 10:54 |
| satya | is vm ip address | 10:54 |
| satya | and controller ip is 10.0.2.15 | 10:54 |
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| teju | r u able to login to the VM from the dashboard? | 10:55 |
| satya | I mean my machine ip | 10:55 |
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| satya | dashboard I have not installed | 10:59 |
| satya | all commands I am trying from cli | 10:59 |
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| anand_ts | satya: output of nova show instanceUUID? | 10:59 |
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| satya | Hi Anand, its installed in my virtual box so not able to copy, do you want to check any specific value in nova show <instance-id> out put | 11:04 |
| anand_ts | satya: instance is getting any IP? | 11:05 |
| satya | yes instance is getting ip | 11:05 |
| satya | whatever the network I created from that it is getting ip | 11:06 |
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| satya | i tried all the options given in web forum but not able to identify the root cause | 11:06 |
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| satya | I am using nova-network | 11:06 |
| anand_ts | satya: ifconfig output? you can ssh to the host in virtual box and copy the output | 11:06 |
| satya | let me try that | 11:07 |
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| cyberworm541 | is anybody aware of a way to add a management node to an existing openstack environment? | 12:31 |
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| sgran | you point them to the existing databases and then add them to the load balancer? | 12:32 |
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| cyberworm541 | correct....but that means we will have to install all the components manually.... | 12:33 |
| cyberworm541 | I thought packstack was able to do this.. | 12:33 |
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| KodiakF | Not that it'll help you now but Mirantis Fuel allegedly does this seamlessly | 12:34 |
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| cyberworm541 | KodiakF: Nice! I wonder how they do it... We are running Redhat's openstack and apparently installing *everything* manually is the only way...which seems ridiculous | 12:38 |
| KodiakF | cyberworm541: I just finished what you are doing generally - I did the manual installs w/ qpidd, ML2, GRE, but w/ a single controller | 12:38 |
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| KodiakF | there is no way we are doing it manually for Juno or whatever k-release is called | 12:39 |
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| KodiakF | we are going to use the free Fuel to test it out and buy the full product for final deployment | 12:39 |
| cyberworm541 | Yeah it is going to be...fun.... plus we are using pacemaker >.> | 12:39 |
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| KodiakF | I didn't trust packstack - no offense to the rhel guys since they are great - we just wanted to run it manual as a learning experience and to be sure we understood where everything landed | 12:40 |
| KodiakF | Fuel does HA automatically w/ pacemaker and corosync | 12:40 |
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| cyberworm541 | Really? Out of the box? | 12:40 |
| KodiakF | it uses PXE and cobbler to stand up new components and you just assign them to roles | 12:40 |
| anand_ts | KodiakF: Can we install Fuel in VMware esxi ? | 12:40 |
| cyberworm541 | Ah I see, I think foreman can do that but as far as I know the HA piece is not ready yet. | 12:41 |
| KodiakF | We'd planned on installing the Fuel controller as an ESXi VM as well but are just going to repurpose some modest hardware | 12:41 |
| KodiakF | We only use Foreman for reporting since it can't do good version control and ACLs like we have in place for our enterprise puppet | 12:42 |
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| KodiakF | Fuel is puppet, cobbler, PXE, and a bunch of other stuff all rolled into a single host - it appears so far to make everything hella easy | 12:42 |
| KodiakF | it even automatically manages ceph in addition to the HA | 12:42 |
| KodiakF | I sound like a bit of a fanboy - whoops | 12:43 |
| anand_ts | KodiakF: pls don't tell that you works for Mirantis :) | 12:43 |
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| sld | anand_ts: lol | 12:43 |
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| cyberworm541 | Well....re-installing *everything* once a management node goes to shit is not a desire path...obviously | 12:44 |
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| KodiakF | do good backups - that's our plan w/ our single controller | 12:45 |
| cyberworm541 | We have 3 management nodes in HA | 12:45 |
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| KodiakF | though I do hope we deploy Juno via Fuel and get off the single-controller setup - ours is really just a proof of concept | 12:45 |
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| cyberworm541 | well 2 now since the other one died | 12:46 |
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| KodiakF | you deployed 3-controller HA via packstack? | 12:47 |
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| cyberworm541 | We deployed 3 controllers via packstack. HA was done separate | 12:48 |
| cyberworm541 | Packstack can't do HA | 12:48 |
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| KodiakF | Alright then yea look at Fuel - wont help you now, but should make life much easier in the future after some initial setup. | 12:51 |
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| udaycode1 | anybody working on the icehouse horizon here? | 12:52 |
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| udaycode1 | i am extending icehouse horizon and I am having issues with angular template rendering | 13:03 |
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| kaisan_ | If I'm setting up Openstack to only have provider networks, would I need that extra neutron node in my setup, or can I skip that, and only have the neutron-api? | 13:06 |
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| exed_ | i know that it somehow maybe sounds wrong but is there a common way to grant access to dedicated instances from the host? so compute/controller/network-node can access one particular instance. | 13:11 |
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| jedix | Anyone know what component the dashboard uses to get a list of projects? I'm seeing this: "Error: Unable to retrieve project list." and was wonderign what component I ahve not properly configured. | 13:16 |
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| georgem2 | jedix:keystone, your old friend :) | 13:16 |
| KodiakF | anand_ts: nope, I'm pretty new to ostack and just work at a college | 13:17 |
| * jedix faceplams | 13:17 | |
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| Sam-I-Am | or your user isnt part of the _member_ role | 13:17 |
| jedix | georgem2: I have it _almost_ working | 13:17 |
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| anand_ts | KodiakF: okay cool | 13:17 |
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| jedix | Sam-I-Am: apparently identity_uri does not need v2.0 at the end, as auth_uri did. | 13:17 |
| jedix | this user is admin, and is a _member_ and admin. | 13:18 |
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| jedix | whatever is using the uri probably has an extra v2.0 in there again. | 13:18 |
| anand_ts | jedix: edit /etc/openstack-dashboard/local_settings file and try to OPENSTACK_KEYSTONE_DEFAULT_ROLE = "_member_" to "admin" | 13:18 |
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| Havard | i am sure i got a stupid question :-) but since i am not very techy of me, i just have to ask ;-) I am new to OpenStack, we have been trying out OnApp but found that to be very buggy (special their Intergraded Storage solution). Now we will test OpenStack on our servers. The big question is if it is possible to run HV (compute) and storage from the same nodes/servers? | 13:23 |
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| Havard | (i can add that we also have been trying flexiant with ceph, but ceph requires more hardware than we got (three monitor nodes)) | 13:24 |
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| georgem2 | Havard: sure, but what do you mean by storage? Cinder? | 13:25 |
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| Havard | georgem2: thanks, we have not made any choice for the storage solution. With OnApp we tried out their intergraded storage, i have not read enough about OpenStack yet to say what we will use | 13:26 |
| Havard | georgem2: the intergraded storage lets you bundle the hard drives in all nodes/servers to some kind of a "SAN" (all servers are connected with 10G network to make the link between as fast as possible) | 13:27 |
| Havard | i guess that is some kind of "distributed block storage device" | 13:27 |
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| georgem2 | Havard: I would not necessarily recommend to mix cpu workloads with storage on the same physical server, especially in a multi-tenant environment but it can work | 13:28 |
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| Havard | georgem2: so that means that we (for the best performance) should run compute on one node, and than attache some kind of storage to that? | 13:28 |
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| georgem2 | Havard: yes, you can have Linux servers with KVM as a hypervisor and also running ceph or gluster on some of the local drives creating a distributed storage | 13:29 |
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| Havard | georgem2: thanks a lot, we will test some different solutions since we got 3 nodes/servers + one for the controlling system available after testing onapp and flexiant. :-) | 13:30 |
| manfred | I am looking for some information on how novaclient loads plugins, so that I can load them automatically inside my own class in salt-cloud nova.py driver instead of having to specify them, cause I have been unable to use the rax-default-network-flags-python-novaclient-ext plugin to set the default nics for rackspace's cloud. | 13:30 |
| manfred | http://paste.gtmanfred.com/T1l/ | 13:30 |
| Havard | my tech signed of for today, so he just left me to install a clean centos on all of them ;-) | 13:30 |
| georgem2 | Havard: the problem I see with mixing instances and storage is that the instances on NodeA might be impacted by I/O load done by instances on NodeB, C and D, in addition to bandwitdh contention | 13:30 |
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| jedix | was yesterday some holiday for a lot of you guys? it was much more quiet. | 13:35 |
| anand_ts | jedix: your issue got resolved? | 13:35 |
| georgem2 | jedix: yes, the holiday was called Monday :) | 13:36 |
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| jedix | anand_ts: I have to rebuild my image.. I had screwed up something in my git repo | 13:36 |
| jedix | accidently dropped my .bb changes to keystone :/ | 13:37 |
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| Havard | georgem2: yeah, i see that, that is why we have 10k SAS drives and 10G network between, to try make those changes go smooth :-) That is by the way the recommended setup from OnApp, so i guess since it is working for them it should be possible with OpenStack as well... But as I said, we are just testing, so we will se how the performance will be after a while | 13:38 |
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| Havard | jedix: in norway we call it a "blue monday" :-) the day for hangovers ;-) | 13:38 |
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| zilberstein | hello #openstack | 14:23 |
| zilberstein | """ | 14:23 |
| jedix | anand_ts.. | 14:23 |
| zilberstein | VolumeBackendAPIException_Remote(u'Bad or unexpected response from the storage volume backend API: Unable to fetch connection information from backend: Bad or unexpected response from the storage volume backend API: The volume driver requires the iSCSI initiator name in the connector. | 14:23 |
| jedix | hrm | 14:23 |
| zilberstein | """ | 14:23 |
| zilberstein | what does this mean ? | 14:23 |
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| jedix | where'd he go.. | 14:23 |
| zilberstein | ( cinder ) | 14:23 |
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| jedix | Error: Unable to retrieve project list. | 14:25 |
| jedix | damn. | 14:25 |
| jedix | that did not fix the issue. | 14:26 |
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| bilco105 | Anyone seen this error on horizon havana when querying ceilometer... {"error_message": {"debuginfo": null, "faultcode": "Server", "faultstring": "metaquery not implemented"}} | 14:44 |
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| mnaser | bilco105: what backend are you using? | 14:47 |
| bilco105 | mysql | 14:47 |
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| mnaser | bilco105: check out the grid for state of backends, i believe some backends dont support some features | 14:49 |
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| bilco105 | MySQL supports them all apparently | 14:58 |
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| manfred | I am looking for some information on how novaclient loads plugins, so that I can load them automatically inside my own class in salt-cloud nova.py driver | 15:02 |
| manfred | instead of having to specify them, cause I have been unable to use the rax-default-network-flags-python-novaclient-ext plugin to set the default nics for | 15:02 |
| manfred | rackspace's cloud. | 15:02 |
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| gregmark | Without any warning, the VNC console sessions in my OpenStack Grizzly horizon console started to fail. All of them. | 15:09 |
| gregmark | Restarted nova services on controller and httpd. Didn't help. Not sure what to do next…. | 15:09 |
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| jtd__ | that's a KVM feature, isn't it? | 15:09 |
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| jtd__ | can you use the KVM management tools to poke at it? | 15:09 |
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| jpich | gregmark: How does it fail? Are the Nova consoleauth and novnc services up and running? Anything of interest in their logs? | 15:10 |
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| gregmark | Good questions. So by fail, I mean that the console tab of any of my 200+ VMs comes up with that red "Failed to connect" bar. | 15:12 |
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| gregmark | I literally just noticed this 10 minutes ago. Nothing's jumped out at me in the logs yet… poking, as jtd said | 15:12 |
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| jtd__ | gregmark: Stupid question: not sure how VNC'y it really is. Does trying a VNC connection to the instances' IPs work? | 15:13 |
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| gregmark | Good question, I'll try that next | 15:14 |
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| gregmark | telnet sessions open to the 59xx ports | 15:16 |
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| gregmark | so either the novnc proxy is failing or maybe something goofy network wise, outside of OpenStack has failed… this is weird | 15:17 |
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| gregmark | jtd__: works if I get a session from get-vnc-console and paste it into a new browser tab. | 15:22 |
| gregmark | jtd__: and now it works from Horizon! | 15:22 |
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| jpich | huh | 15:23 |
| gregmark | I don't get it. All I did was get get-vnc-console. That couldn't have done anything, right? | 15:23 |
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| gregmark | I restarted nova services about 10 minutes ago. | 15:23 |
| jpich | I don't think, that's the same API call Horizon makes to pick up the URL | 15:23 |
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| gregmark | right, that's what I thought | 15:23 |
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| gregmark | Well… that was an interesting troubleshooting exercise. I was in a cold panic for a few minutes there. Thanks jpich, thanks jtd. Going to chalk that up to network nonsense. | 15:25 |
| gregmark | nothing seemed broken | 15:25 |
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| gregmark | not on OpStk anyway | 15:25 |
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| jedix | it looks like dashboard is not constructing some of the URLs using the correct uri. | 16:01 |
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| jtd__ | can anyone help me with a nova networking issue? I've been following this guide: http://www.stackgeek.com/guides/gettingstarted.html and am using flatdhcp networking. My LAN subnet is 192.168.1.0/24 and my OpenStack VM subnet is 10.0.1.0/24. As suggested in the guide, I created a static route on my router to handle traffic between LANs and the internet. Instances can reach addresses on the LAN as well as addresses on the internet, but no machines on the LAN ca | 16:09 |
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| jedix | 192.168.122.2 - - [19/Aug/2014:16:24:04 +0000] "GET /v2.0/tenants HTTP/1.1" 404 210 | 16:24 |
| jedix | 192.168.122.2 - - [19/Aug/2014:16:24:04 +0000] "POST /keystone/main/v2.0/tokens HTTP/1.1" 200 1309 | 16:24 |
| jedix | 192.168.122.2 - - [19/Aug/2014:16:24:04 +0000] "GET /keystone/main/v2.0/tenants HTTP/1.1" 200 133 | 16:24 |
| jedix | ..one of these things is not like the other :/ | 16:24 |
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| jedix | it looks like dashboard is not constructing the correct url in two cases. | 16:24 |
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| jedix | the overview and the volumes both request /v2.0/tenants | 16:25 |
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| rick_ | Bryanstein: HI, Are you Jay Bryant? | 16:27 |
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| Bryanstein | rick_, No | 16:27 |
| rick_ | Bryanstein: Sorry. | 16:27 |
| Bryanstein | lol, it's ok...hope you find him | 16:27 |
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| devoid | we're having issues with our nova-network service… with one network, nova-network fails to startup after a traceback in the dnsmasq command for that network. | 16:47 |
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| georgem2 | devoid:what's in the traceback? | 16:48 |
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| devoid | unfortunately dnsmasq and the nova-dhcpbridge command won't run manually... | 16:48 |
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| manfred | I am looking for some information on how novaclient loads plugins, so that I can load them automatically inside my own class in salt-cloud nova.py driver | 16:50 |
| manfred | instead of having to specify them, cause I have been unable to use the rax-default-network-flags-python-novaclient-ext plugin to set the default nics for | 16:50 |
| manfred | rackspace's cloud. | 16:50 |
| manfred | http://paste.gtmanfred.com/T1l/ | 16:50 |
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| devoid | georgem2: here's the traceback http://paste.openstack.org/show/97382/ | 16:50 |
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| devoid | I've tried running that command on my own (su'd to nova user) and it fails for a different bizarro reason having to do with configuration files and environment variables | 16:51 |
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| devoid | we've found that we can disable some fixed_ips (e.g. set deleted!=0) we can get nova-network to start. | 16:52 |
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| georgem2 | devoid: any chance is a disk issue? | 16:54 |
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| jedix | anyone use keystone on apache with dashboard? | 16:55 |
| jedix | I'm having a few URLs fail. they don't seem to be using the OPENSTACK_KEYSTONE_URL | 16:55 |
| georgem2 | manfred:you should talk to rackspace support | 16:55 |
| manfred | it isn't a rackspace thing | 16:55 |
| manfred | it is a novaclient thing | 16:55 |
| manfred | it is how novaclient loads plugins | 16:56 |
| devoid | georgem2: probably not? I can't see why it would be? | 16:56 |
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| georgem2 | manfred: are you using to talk to the rackspace API? | 16:56 |
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| devoid | georgem2: anyhow this machine is hw raided and running happily | 16:56 |
| manfred | georgem2: i am using it to just load a plugin in the novaclient class | 16:56 |
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| georgem2 | devoid: just a guess...make sure you have nothing mounted RO | 16:56 |
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| devoid | o.O … | 16:57 |
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| devoid | lemme run windows update as well /sarcasm | 16:58 |
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| georgem2 | devoid: usually when I see "IOError: | 17:00 |
| georgem2 | I check the filesystem to make sure it's not remounted as read-only | 17:01 |
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| manfred | georgem2: the extension works fine with straight novaclient, no worries, but when attempting to us it in my own class that is using novaclient stuff, it doesn't load the extensions correctly... but I am probably not loading the extensions into the class correclty somehow | 17:04 |
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| georgem2 | manfred: sorry, I cannot help you but you might have more luck in the dev channel | 17:06 |
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| georgem2 | manfred: I just saw you posted this question a few times with nobody answering | 17:07 |
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| manfred | yar | 17:08 |
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| manfred | i work at rackspace, and have been trying to find some people here without much luck, I tried the #openstack-nova channel and they said to try here | 17:08 |
| manfred | is it just #openstack-dev? | 17:08 |
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| georgem2 | manfred:https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/IRC | 17:09 |
| manfred | yar, found it thanks | 17:09 |
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| jedix | where does the dashboard get url for post refresh? | 17:23 |
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| jedix | it is not including the version.. | 17:23 |
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| MilesDenver | Anyone know about Mirantis OpenStack? Like how do they make money? Do they charge for support? is it optional support? | 17:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | MilesDenver: professional services. | 17:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | MilesDenver: one size does not fit all | 17:52 |
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| MilesDenver | hmmm…. maybe I'll actually attempt to call them. | 17:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | there's a handful of somewhat similar products out there | 17:53 |
| MilesDenver | I've a feeling it's not gonna work for me…. when they hide the commercial component of a product it's generally not good news | 17:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | commercial component? | 17:53 |
| MilesDenver | Sam-I-Am: sure, how much it costs, how they make money, etc. | 17:54 |
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| KodiakF | observation: neutron quota-update --floatingip 0 ...is flipping worse than useless... quota still shows at 50 in horizon and you just get a bogus looking horizon error when trying to launch the instance. I see now that this has to be set w/ nova quota-update argh | 17:56 |
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| FatDarrel | hey guys is thre a room for neutron-ML2 related discussions? | 17:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | MilesDenver: if it wasnt profitable, they wouldnt do it. | 17:59 |
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| FatDarrel | I need to restart my nodes after a neutron ml2 plugin install is there a way to do it without reboot? | 17:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | FatDarrel: what did you install/change? | 18:00 |
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| Sam-I-Am | generally nothing in openstack requires a reboot | 18:00 |
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| FatDarrel | Sam-I-Am: I think the vlan tags are being cached improperly | 18:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | cached? | 18:01 |
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| KodiakF | MilesDenver - we're in talks with Mirantis right now as well - Fuel is free but support obviously isn't | 18:02 |
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| FatDarrel | I thnk some of the openvswitch services are cacheing some of the vlans | 18:02 |
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| KodiakF | the sales rep said that "industry leading support is their product", (along w/ hosted openstack) and that free Fuel is bit-for-bit the same as paid-for Mirantis Openstack | 18:03 |
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| FatDarrel | KodiakF: which rep? | 18:03 |
| KodiakF | They license based on Openstack hardware node numbers | 18:03 |
| KodiakF | in tiers of 10, 20, or... "more" | 18:03 |
| KodiakF | Erica Pace - I wish she'd rematerialize with our quote lol - it's budget season | 18:03 |
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| Sam-I-Am | most of the wrapped-openstack vendors offer the product for free, but charge for support | 18:04 |
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| FatDarrel | Anyway | 18:04 |
| FatDarrel | openvswithch with ml2 is a bit of apin | 18:04 |
| FatDarrel | penvswithch with ml2 is a bit of a pain | 18:04 |
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| Sam-I-Am | FatDarrel: i still dont understand your problem | 18:05 |
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| FatDarrel | So after I install icehouse with ml2 networking | 18:05 |
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| FatDarrel | none of the vms work. they don't get ip addresses | 18:05 |
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| Sam-I-Am | could be a number of problems | 18:05 |
| FatDarrel | but rebooting the hosts (all the linux hypervisor boxen) we are golden | 18:05 |
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| KodiakF | probably iptables rules then FatDarrel | 18:06 |
| FatDarrel | yeah did that didn't help | 18:07 |
| KodiakF | I noticed our enterprise delivered IPTables rules dindn't include protocol 47 after setting up my hosts and that caused DHCP weirdness where they would work and then sometimes wouldn't | 18:07 |
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| KodiakF | drops should be logged to the neutron node and compute node's /var/log/messages | 18:07 |
| FatDarrel | yeah saw that | 18:07 |
| KodiakF | also it's probably time to start tcpdumping ALL THE THINGS | 18:07 |
| MilesDenver | KodiakF: Just spoke with Erica Pace… told her you were looking for a quote. She says it's coming from someone else, but it's on the way. | 18:07 |
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| KodiakF | Thanks MilesDenver, super good experience so far all things considered | 18:08 |
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| FatDarrel | KodiakF: I think just a bit better ml2 startup and verification before exposing the service would've caught it | 18:08 |
| KodiakF | Working on running Fuel in a 100% KVM based lab at home when I have time - so far looks awesome | 18:08 |
| KodiakF | FatDarrel: if it's related to GRE stuff being blocked that's our bad as admins, not openstack or the ML2 plugin IMO | 18:09 |
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| KodiakF | or any other non-Openstack managed iptables issue for that matter | 18:09 |
| FatDarrel | KodiakF: can you expalin that? | 18:10 |
| MilesDenver | FYI: looks like Mirantis wants to make their tools available without charge is you keep below 10 nodes. Then it's support time…. but you can get support with fewer than 10 nodes if you want | 18:10 |
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| KodiakF | Best advice I can give when seeing what you are seeing is start watching all the phys host iptables drop logs and also tcpdump ALL THE THINGS | 18:10 |
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| KodiakF | and by tcpdump all the things I mean start out at the GRE tunnels to divide your problem domain | 18:10 |
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| FatDarrel | KodiakF: yeah well GRE is a good place to start | 18:11 |
| KodiakF | then work from one side to the other depending on where you see the dhcp requests and where you dont | 18:11 |
| KodiakF | tcpdump -i {gre phys iface} proto gre | 18:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | production openstack without support, or without really deep knowledge of all the things and development connections, is probably not a Good Thing | 18:11 |
| KodiakF | start w/ a tcpdump on both ends of gre (neutron, compute) | 18:11 |
| mnaser | Sam-I-Am: dont froget (TM) next to Not a Good Thing | 18:11 |
| mnaser | :p | 18:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | you either build your own team of full time folks or get support | 18:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | mnaser: yes | 18:11 |
| KodiakF | Sam-I-Am - we just call it a beta service | 18:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | ha | 18:12 |
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| KodiakF | I kind of feel like I need to attribute Sam-I-Am and larsks whenever I hand out Neutron troubleshooting advice also, they just walked me through all of it not a week ago | 18:12 |
| KodiakF | FatDarrel: If you don't already know where to dump ifaces looking for your problem, read through this: http://blog.oddbit.com/2013/11/14/quantum-in-too-much-detail/ | 18:13 |
| KodiakF | that's larsks *very good* post on where things connect | 18:14 |
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| krypto | hi i am trying to create instance from snapshots but its not getting IP as it doesnt have an interface eth1,how can i remove udev rules from snapshot,is there an openstack way of removing udev rules automatically beofore instance is spawned | 18:16 |
| mnaser | krypto: no, ideally the snapshot/base image should have that already done | 18:16 |
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| davidbowlby | what was the base os for your snapshot | 18:16 |
| mnaser | but what usually happens is it creates a new interface and gets the ip config on it anyways | 18:16 |
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| KodiakF | krypto: check out virt-sysprep | 18:19 |
| krypto | when i created the base image i configured eth0 with dhcp,after installing cloud-init i removed udev rules.it was working fine until i made some changes to instance and created a snapshot out of it,now all new instance are failing to get IP due to existing udev rules for eth0 | 18:19 |
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| davidbowlby | krypto, what OS? | 18:20 |
| krypto | centos6.5 | 18:20 |
| KodiakF | you're going to have to re-remove the udev stuff (likely w/ virt-sysprep) | 18:20 |
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| krypto | KodiakF : do i need to do that on all snapshots? | 18:21 |
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| KodiakF | just the one you want to treat like an image | 18:21 |
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| krypto | i think that works only if we have access to disk image, | 18:22 |
| KodiakF | yep - you'd probably have to re-upload it | 18:22 |
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| KodiakF | I think you want to treat images as un-messed-with golden images to boot from - so get it just the way you want, then re-up | 18:23 |
| krypto | we have many users with different instances,they make changes and create vm from that snapshot. | 18:24 |
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| KodiakF | then they need to fix their images and re-up | 18:25 |
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| KodiakF | anyone know how to get the number of floating IPs to actually show as 0 in horizon's tenant overview page after setting the num float IPs to 0 | 18:29 |
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| MilesDenver | hmmm…. either its a refresh thing, or you have something still holding an IP…. a project or instance | 18:29 |
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| KodiakF | looks like the only way I can really make it appear is to mod the quota to 0 via admin session w/ horizon | 18:30 |
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| KodiakF | so setting it to zero w/ nova quota-update AND neutron quota-update make it happen - peeps can't get a float IP, but they still show in horizon | 18:31 |
| KodiakF | not the end of the world, just wish I could figure out what is being done in horizon that I'm missing in CLI | 18:31 |
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| KodiakF | and nothing is holding an IP and a login/logout as a _member_ in that tenant in horizon didn't do it, but after setting to 0 in horizon's admin portal it appeared right away as the _member_ of the tenant in overview | 18:33 |
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| KodiakF | buggish IMO but I'm not ready to flat out call it as such and file on it | 18:33 |
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| sputnik13 | we're seeing some VMs being very laggy, I'm pinging the VM1, the host that VM1 is on, and VM2 on the same host as VM1, and VM2 and the host come back ok | 19:27 |
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| sputnik13 | but VM1 takes up to 10 seconds to respond to some pings, and the lagginess is seemingly sporadic | 19:28 |
| sputnik13 | pings come back in less than 1ms most of the time then it kind of pauses for a bit, the packets aren't being dropped but the response takes up to 10 seconds to come back | 19:28 |
| sputnik13 | all the while, the ping to VM2 and the host consistently come back oK | 19:28 |
| sputnik13 | there isn't a lot of CPU being used on VM1 either | 19:29 |
| jtd__ | what kind of networking are you using? | 19:29 |
| sputnik13 | neutron | 19:29 |
| jtd__ | is Neutron complaining about anything in Splunk? | 19:29 |
| sputnik13 | I don't think it's a neutron issue given that the other VM (VM2) is fine | 19:29 |
| sputnik13 | no splunk, and I don't know what neutron would complain about since it's not a setup issue | 19:30 |
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| * jtd__ shrugs | 19:30 | |
| sputnik13 | neutron configures ovs and iptables, from that point on it's ovs and iptables handling the networking no? | 19:30 |
| jtd__ | I'm having network problems too on my lab install. | 19:30 |
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| jtd__ | but I'm just using Nova networking so I can't be super helpful there. | 19:31 |
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| sputnik13 | jtd__: well thanks for the help regardless | 19:31 |
| sputnik13 | anyone else seen something like this? | 19:31 |
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| jtd__ | networking in OpenStack in general seems like a fickle beast. | 19:33 |
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| jtd__ | my instances can reach the internet and the "regular" network, but the "regular" network can't reach the instances. | 19:33 |
| jtd__ | and I'm just using FlatDHCP and a static route on my router to talk between the networks. | 19:33 |
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| jtd__ | *SHOULD* be simple, but, well, OpenStack. | 19:34 |
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| bb | hello: i installed RDO using packstack and created a 2 subnets, private and public. On the private, fired a VM and assigned a floating ip. | 19:38 |
| georgem2 | sputnik13:you could tcpdump on the instance to see if the icmp requests get there in time | 19:38 |
| bb | I am able to ping the gateway which is the router. THis is a private ip but unable to ping the floating ip. Any help would be great | 19:38 |
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| sputnik13 | georgem2: I suppose that would at least tell me if the packet is getting stuck in some queue or something before it hits the instance... I'll give that a try | 19:41 |
| sputnik13 | georgem2: thanks | 19:41 |
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| georgem2 | sputnik13:you could also ping vmA from vmB to see if it's ok, so traffic would be local to that openvswitch | 19:47 |
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| jtd__ | can anyone help me with a nova networking issue? I've been following this guide: http://www.stackgeek.com/guides/gettingstarted.html and am using flatdhcp networking. My LAN subnet is 192.168.1.0/24 and my OpenStack VM subnet is 10.0.1.0/24. As suggested in the guide, I created a static route on my router to handle traffic between LANs and the internet. Instances can reach addresses on the LAN as well as addresses on the internet, but no machines on the LAN ca | 20:41 |
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| jedix | jtd__: your message was too long for IRC to send | 21:00 |
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| jedix | "but no machines on the LAN ca " | 21:00 |
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| jtd__ | "can reach any OpenStack instances (i.e. the 10.0.1.0/24 network). Anyone have any ideas how I can fix this? Screenshots available upon request." | 21:02 |
| jtd__ | thanks jedix | 21:02 |
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| jtd__ | woulda been nice if you'd MENTIONED THAT, Freenode -_- | 21:02 |
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| sputnik13 | from what I can see so far all packets make it to the TAP interface of the VM just fine, but whenever we have the lag, it seems like the VM locks up for a few seconds and doesn't handle the ping requests | 22:00 |
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| mnaser | sputnik13 | 22:04 |
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| sputnik13 | mnaser | 22:04 |
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| mnaser | i think | 22:04 |
| mnaser | you will be very happy to know that | 22:04 |
| mnaser | wait before i become trigger happy | 22:05 |
| mnaser | ubuntu host? | 22:05 |
| mnaser | (i had that same issue which took me a billion years to find) | 22:05 |
| sputnik13 | sorry, know what? | 22:05 |
| mnaser | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1346917 | 22:05 |
| mnaser | check that out | 22:05 |
| sputnik13 | mnaser: yes ubuntu | 22:05 |
| mnaser | there's your issue ;) | 22:05 |
| mnaser | disable ksm or upgrade kernel (this drove me nuts) | 22:05 |
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| mnaser | i dont have a lot of context but fairly sure its that | 22:05 |
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| sputnik13 | mnaser, thanks for the tip | 22:08 |
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| sputnik13 | mnaser: when you had this issue was it happening on every VM? | 22:08 |
| mnaser | yes | 22:08 |
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| mnaser | pings timing out | 22:08 |
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| mnaser | high load averages (for no reason) | 22:08 |
| sputnik13 | mnaser: ok, that's helpful, I'll look at this further, but I don't think it's the same problem | 22:09 |
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| mnaser | fair enough | 22:09 |
| sputnik13 | mnaser: I put another VM on the same host and that VM has no such issue | 22:09 |
| mnaser | i think its when ksm kicks in or ksm-related instances get messy | 22:10 |
| sputnik13 | mnaser: what is ksm? | 22:10 |
| mnaser | i think it's worth a shot to disable and evict all ksm pages and check it (if you have an affecte dkernel) | 22:10 |
| mnaser | KSM is kernel same-page merging.. basically memory deduplication | 22:10 |
| sputnik13 | mnaser: hmm, ok, can you disable ksm on a live system? | 22:11 |
| mnaser | yes, i did it safely | 22:11 |
| mnaser | let me find it for a sec | 22:11 |
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| mnaser | sputnik13: echo 2 > /sys/kernel/mm/ksm/run | 22:15 |
| mnaser | the command will freeze for a bit | 22:15 |
| mnaser | as it restores memory pages | 22:15 |
| sputnik13 | mnaser: does that disable ksm altogether? | 22:16 |
| mnaser | yeah | 22:16 |
| mnaser | but it will also restore memory pages and remove the deduplication | 22:16 |
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| sputnik13 | mnaser: ok, well, trying it... it's freezing for a long time like you said :-) | 22:20 |
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| mnaser | yeah, it's basically taking all the duplicated memory pages, moving them to their own page in memory | 22:20 |
| gleam | i had that happen with ksm too, actually | 22:21 |
| mnaser | gleam: the bug is now fixed thankfully | 22:21 |
| qhartman | I'm looking at enabling striping on my openstack cluster to attempt to improve throughput. Has anyone here done that? It sounds a bit fiddly. | 22:21 |
| gleam | was it kvm or ksm? | 22:21 |
| gleam | oh i see the lp link | 22:21 |
| sputnik13 | I think I started having more issues when I upgraded my kernel to the raring HWE pack | 22:21 |
| sputnik13 | from 12.04 | 22:21 |
| qhartman | derp, I left out the detail that this is ceph client data striping, as in: http://ceph.com/docs/master/architecture/#data-striping | 22:22 |
| sputnik13 | so this would kind of make sense... | 22:22 |
| gleam | thx, mnaser | 22:22 |
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| sputnik13 | if it is indeed the problem | 22:22 |
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| mnaser | probably best to hit trusty kernel too, raring is already eol'd.. id suggest installing the trusty hwe pack | 22:23 |
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| sputnik13 | I think I might be on trusty actually | 22:25 |
| sputnik13 | aptitude says that I have linux-generic-lts-trusty installed | 22:25 |
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| qhartman | also, all the docs I've seen for this talk about setting it up for cephfs use, not the direct librbd access that openstack / qemu uses. Any pointers to docs for that use case? | 22:27 |
| sputnik13 | I might be celebrating too earl, but I think this might be it | 22:27 |
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| sputnik13 | I hate having to just watch a screen for undefined amounts of time to verify things | 22:28 |
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| sputnik13 | but it hasn't lagged in the last minute | 22:28 |
| mnaser | sputnik13: it's done? and the machine seems to be okay? :) | 22:28 |
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| sputnik13 | mnaser: yeah I had a scare for a bit where the VM I was pinging wouldn't respond for a while but it came back | 22:29 |
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| sputnik13 | and like I said it hasn't lagged again in the last 2 minutes now | 22:29 |
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| mnaser | sputnik13: i have graphite telling me the servrs with highest load/iowait | 22:29 |
| mnaser | after fidning the issue | 22:30 |
| mnaser | http://puu.sh/aq6yV/07b9139470.png | 22:30 |
| sputnik13 | that's a huge change | 22:30 |
| sputnik13 | mnaser: awesome, dude I need to buy you beer or something :-D | 22:30 |
| mnaser | haha, enjoy :) | 22:30 |
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| sputnik13 | mnaser: how did you disable it on boot? | 22:30 |
| mnaser | sputnik13: i'd suggest you just upgrade your kernel and on the next reboot, it wont be an issue | 22:31 |
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| sputnik13 | mnaser: I can't reboot for another couple of weeks, this is a production cluster | 22:32 |
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| sputnik13 | mnaser: what kernel version are you running? | 22:32 |
| sputnik13 | I have 3.13.0.-32 | 22:32 |
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| mnaser | sputnik13: id just disable it on the hosts, and make sure you're update to at least linux-image-3.13.0-33-generic | 22:33 |
| mnaser | that was the one that fixed it | 22:33 |
| mnaser | and then what will happen is upon reboot, ksm will be back and it'll run fine | 22:33 |
| sputnik13 | mnaser: awesome, thank you so much :-) | 22:33 |
| mnaser | last i rebooted i was up to 3.13.0-34-generic | 22:34 |
| mnaser | and that doesnt have any issues | 22:34 |
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| sputnik13 | mnaser: yeah the lates looks like 3.13.0.34.30 | 22:34 |
| sputnik13 | I'm on 3.13.0.32.28 | 22:35 |
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| mnaser | what i did was disable ksm on everything, update all servers, and then i can just reboot anytime i plan and everything should be okay | 22:35 |
| mnaser | been running with the exact ksm disable i gave you for a few weeks, no problems so you can leave it as is | 22:35 |
| sputnik13 | mnaser: awesome, thanks so much | 22:36 |
| mnaser | np :) | 22:36 |
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