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| Moss | good morning | 05:50 |
| Moss | i've quick question | 05:50 |
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| Moss | in vlan mode i should connect trunk to compute's external nic | 05:50 |
| Moss | should i also attached this trunk to controller's external nic? | 05:51 |
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| Moss | according to http://docwiki.cisco.com/wiki/OpenStack:_Icehouse_OpenStack_Installer_Overview#IP_Networks i don't need | 05:51 |
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| Moss | but according to previous release guide http://docwiki.cisco.com/wiki/File:Havana_manual_ha_network_design_details_v1_0.png i should connect trunks also to the controllers | 05:52 |
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| Moss | could someone point me out to the correct option? | 05:53 |
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| ArminderS | you should | 05:57 |
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| Moss | thank you ArminderS | 06:04 |
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| t4nk326 | Hi, I want to know how to perform deduplication in OpenStack storage. | 07:03 |
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| t4nk326 | Hi, I want to know how to perform deduplication in OpenStack storage. Please anyone give some ideas. | 07:04 |
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| t4nk326 | Hi, I want to know how to perform deduplication in OpenStack storage. Please anyone give some ideas. | 07:06 |
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| sun28 | t4nk326: it depends | 07:12 |
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| Sneha_ | I want to know how to perform deduplication in OpenStack storage. Please anyone help ! | 07:25 |
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| Sonia | I want to know how to perform deduplication in OpenStack storage. Please anyone help. | 08:17 |
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| preeti | hello | 10:23 |
| preeti | I ahve VM instance but i am unable to ping it from anywhere | 10:23 |
| preeti | can some one help me | 10:23 |
| preeti | I deployed openstack icehouse+launched instance+ VM instance gets IP but unable to ssh or ping it | 10:24 |
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| _shaps_ | preeti: did you check security groups? | 10:28 |
| preeti | No | 10:28 |
| preeti | how to check it | 10:28 |
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| _shaps_ | preeti: from the dashboard go to compute then access & security | 10:29 |
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| preeti | there is nothing in security grp | 10:30 |
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| preeti | No security grp found | 10:30 |
| preeti | is there realtion with security grp | 10:32 |
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| _shaps_ | I've had the same problem, and the default secgroup does not allow ping/ssh | 10:33 |
| _shaps_ | so yes, could be | 10:33 |
| preeti | ok so what you did | 10:34 |
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| _shaps_ | create a new security group, add the rule icmp allow from 0.0.0.0/0 | 10:35 |
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| _shaps_ | and associate that secgroup to the vm | 10:35 |
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| sld | Is there anyone that can confirm really quickly - is shared storage the only way to do live migration between computes? | 10:41 |
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| cookednoodles | with openstack yes | 10:42 |
| preeti | I added security group and added a rule allow all icmp | 10:42 |
| preeti | added that to VM...but not pining | 10:42 |
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| sld | cookednoodles: thought so, thx for the confirmation. | 10:45 |
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| Nowaker | sld: live migrations with local storage work on raw libvirt | 10:47 |
| sld | Nowaker: raw, versus...? | 10:47 |
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| Nowaker | sld: versus openstack. | 10:50 |
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| sld | ahhh... gotcha. | 10:50 |
| Nowaker | openstack doesnt use libvirt, afair | 10:50 |
| sld | that is one of the drivers for nova | 10:50 |
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| sld | you can use libvirt/kvm as virt backend, same as any other virt. | 10:51 |
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| Nowaker | sld: but the wiki says the driver lacks many features so thats why people rarely use libvirt with openstack | 10:53 |
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| sld | Nowaker: true, it does... all have their pros and cons. heh. | 10:54 |
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| Nowaker | anyways, libvirt online migrations with local storage do work :) | 10:55 |
| sld | yeah, now if only i didn't have negative disk space in hypervisor-stats info. LOL | 10:56 |
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| sld | Can anyone think of an idea off the top of their head what would cause nova hypervisor-stats to have a negative value for 'disk_available_least'? | 11:02 |
| RaginBajin | sld Your overcommited technically | 11:03 |
| sld | That is what it sounds like, but that being the case, I would think it prevents negative disk space counts. lol | 11:03 |
| RaginBajin | Say you have 100GB and your build 10 VMs at 10GB each. That's will give you 0 available. But if you build 10 VMs at 20GBs each, but your images are not fully using the disk. Then your -100 | 11:04 |
| sld | True. Why then would it allow a negative amount? | 11:04 |
| RaginBajin | Because you can control the amount of overcommit for Disk, CPU, Mem. | 11:05 |
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| RaginBajin | You can say only overcommit by 2x or do not ever over-commit. | 11:05 |
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| sld | Disk allocation ratio is 1.0. | 11:05 |
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| geaaru | hi, I configured nova for use cinder API (lvm iscsi driver), cinder correctly create LUN to tgtd daemon but then when nova-compute module try to do connection use iscsiadm instead of tgtadm | 11:14 |
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| geaaru | I correctly set iscsi_helper but seems that this option is ignored | 11:14 |
| geaaru | iscsi_helper option must be set on [DEFAULT] section ? | 11:15 |
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| RaginBajin | sld: http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/config-reference/content/section_compute-scheduler.html#diskfilter It means that you have to include the DiskFIlter in your scheduler or it won't look at it | 11:20 |
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| sld | Thanks, and it is there, the last one listed...but it's there. heh. | 11:21 |
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| snowgust | good morning! Does anyone have experience running multiple L3 agents? I can't seem to get it working right | 11:48 |
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| snowgust | whenever I start two agents one of them apparently stops receiving updates | 11:49 |
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| preeti | i installed openstack but i am not able to ping to compute machines | 12:13 |
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| preeti | ia cant ping my VM instances...' | 12:14 |
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| preeti | i can ping all three node but after launching instance ...vm are not pinging | 12:14 |
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| snowgust | @preeti what does your setup look like? | 12:26 |
| snowgust | single-node? multi-node? | 12:26 |
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| marcusskul | hello | 12:41 |
| marcusskul | is there anyone here that can help me out with some questions? | 12:42 |
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| kaliya | marcusskul: just ask | 12:46 |
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| KodiakF | preeti: hopefully you know how to use tcpdump - you need to watch the traffic on all reasonable tap points along the path your pings would transit. Also check the compute and neutron server iptables drop logs to see if your traffic is being blocked | 12:51 |
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| KodiakF | preeti: This should help you understand the tapping points for tcpdump: http://blog.oddbit.com/2013/11/14/quantum-in-too-much-detail/ (credit to larsks on here for taking the time to write it up) | 12:52 |
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| kfox1111 | Question. Is there a way to have a flavor that has custom libvirt settings? | 13:12 |
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| kfox1111 | Id like to be able to pass a shared rbd volume in to a few vm's, but cinder does not support that yet. so I was hoping to be able to pass it via a flavor or image metadata or something until it does. | 13:13 |
| arcimboldo | Hi all, how can I cancel a migration? It's running since yesterday and I think it will never complete. | 13:13 |
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| visualne | If installed icehouse via packstack | 14:25 |
| visualne | and then set up some tenants | 14:25 |
| visualne | and spun up some vms | 14:25 |
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| visualne | and then rerun packstack with the same answers file but this time with a new compute host | 14:26 |
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| visualne | will it overwrite/get rid of any previous done configuration | 14:26 |
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| visualne | in terms of tenant creation | 14:26 |
| visualne | and vms being spun up | 14:26 |
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| visualne | I also made a change to some neutron files | 14:26 |
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| visualne | so I think those changes will be changed back to what they originally were | 14:26 |
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| KodiakF | visualne: that sounds like a messy way to scale up - RDO themselves even mention packstack is not production-worth | 14:38 |
| KodiakF | *worthy | 14:38 |
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| visualne | Lets say I want to add a compute node | 14:38 |
| KodiakF | You probably want to follow this then: http://openstack.redhat.com/Adding_a_compute_node | 14:38 |
| visualne | and I dont want to touch configuration on the controller | 14:39 |
| visualne | the excluded_server flag looks promising but I havent tested it | 14:39 |
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| visualne | so if I add that second compute node, will my instances and tenant configuration configured change? | 14:40 |
| KodiakF | were I you I would just follow this, while customizing where necessary: http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/install-guide/install/yum/content/nova-compute.html | 14:40 |
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| KodiakF | all of that is on the controller - if you dont mess with the controller you should be good | 14:40 |
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| KodiakF | I love Redhat but I kind of wish they would make something real for deploying Openstack and make it obvious that Packstack is really just for all-in-one configurations that are spun up just for kicking the Openstack tires | 14:41 |
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| visualne | what do you mean mess with the controller | 14:42 |
| visualne | like if I added tenants to the database | 14:42 |
| KodiakF | I mean stay away from messing with the existing cloud controller and just build another compute node | 14:42 |
| kfox1111 | KodiakF: they are. they are contributing greatly to the TripleO project. | 14:43 |
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| KodiakF | if nova.conf and qpid.conf and neutron configs are all adapted to your current environment you should be able to integrate the new compute node right in | 14:43 |
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| KodiakF | kfox1111: Great to know - I've not looked enough at Triple-O but will make some time to do so this weekend. We are a 100% Redhat (paid customer) shop and are looking to Mirantis for a deployment / mgmt system just because RHOS doesn't really have anything for us at the moment. | 14:45 |
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| kfox1111 | KodiakF: yeah. redhat tends to play the long game, not the short game. They wana make sure they do things right, and are supporting Triple-O. I don't think Triple-O's quite ready yet. so if you need something RightNow(TM), then Mirantis may be a good solution for you. I expect once TripleO matures a bit, they will release a Redhat product based on TripleO. | 14:47 |
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| KodiakF | Well we did a small (<10 compute) PoC on Icehouse just now manually and that was annoying. We'll probs do Fuel for our v2 and watch Triple-O. | 14:48 |
| zilberstein | hello #openstack | 14:49 |
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| zilberstein | could someone throw a hint on why neutron, configured to use ML2 with linux bridge plugin, gives warning: "Failed to bind port N on host localhost" | 14:50 |
| zilberstein | ? | 14:50 |
| zilberstein | nova refuses to launch VM because of that | 14:50 |
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| ush | KodiakF, kfox1111: agree on Triple-O, but for the moment there is Staypuft https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s61-Npp03lA | 14:52 |
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| KodiakF | ush: Interesting - we already have Foreman as a simple report/dashboard for our enterprise puppet | 14:53 |
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| KodiakF | Without watching the video it looks like it's presented by 2 @redhat'ers - they should publicize this stuff on the RDO site :) (I'd never heard of it) | 14:54 |
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| ush | KodiakF: that was the Atlanta OpenStack summit the slides are available at the link on the right, bit quicker than the video | 14:55 |
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| visualne | KodiakF: This document you sent doesn't include like configuration a neutron openvswitch agent http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/install-guide/install/yum/content/nova-compute.html on the compute node | 14:55 |
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| ush | KodiakF: http://bit.ly/1su8zQ9 | 14:56 |
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| ush | KodiakF: but I think kfox1111 is right | 14:56 |
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| KodiakF | visualne: Check the doc index tree for Neutron configuration parts. | 14:58 |
| KodiakF | ush: thanks! | 14:58 |
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| KodiakF | ush, kfox1111: Wonder if Redhat is hedging by continuing Staypuft whilst coding on OOO | 14:59 |
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| ush | KodiakF: no idea, but there's definitely a problem to solve in this space | 15:00 |
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| KodiakF | ush: I'll say lol. Liking fuel so far at home on KVM, but obviously there is something to be said for staying with familiar products from someone you already have a paid support relationship with. | 15:01 |
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| ush | KodiakF: :) Thing is that Staypuft at the moment has limited flexibility w.r.t. architecture, all services on 3 nodes etc. | 15:03 |
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| KodiakF | ush: mostly true w/ Fuel if you're talking stuff like api endpoints, glance, networking etc all being on the controllers | 15:06 |
| KodiakF | which I'm cool with for our size | 15:06 |
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| KodiakF | I hope they integrate Ceph like Mirantis - swift wasn't pleasant and if Ceph can do the needful I'm all for using that instead | 15:06 |
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| thebloggu | I can't launch instances in my openstack installation. the compute logs show a trace ending with a "ProcessExecutionError: Unexpected error while running command." and "Stderr: 'iscsiadm: No session found.\n'" can someone help me? | 15:18 |
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| KodiakF | thebloggu: Sounds like a cinder issue | 15:18 |
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| thebloggu | KodiakF: the cinder logs don't seem to show anything useful, do you have any idea? | 15:21 |
| KodiakF | restart cinder w/ debug True in the logs I'd say | 15:21 |
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| KodiakF | erm s/logs/conf/g | 15:21 |
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| KodiakF | has this ever worked or is this a brand new installation? | 15:22 |
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| thebloggu | KodiakF: it worked and old instances are working. i just can't launch any new ones | 15:23 |
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| KodiakF | can you create new volumes? As in a new volume to attach to an existing instance as a persistent data disk using Cinder? | 15:24 |
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| * KodiakF wonders how the Cinder VG looks currently... | 15:26 | |
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| KodiakF | thebloggu: I'm sure you can google every bit as good as me but have you seen: https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/8942/cinder-broken-iscsiadm-no-session-found/ | 15:26 |
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| atpa8a | hello | 15:30 |
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| thebloggu | KodiakF: i'm trying to test if I can get a new volume in an existing machine. as for that question I've already seen it but I'm a bit confused as to why it happened and what the solution was. he says he stopped tgtd but isn't it necessary for openstack to work? sorry if I sound confused but I haven't played with this very much | 15:31 |
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| KodiakF | lemme know if you can do a new cinder volume of any sort for an existing VM - I'm wondering about if your cinder-volumes vg looks healthy | 15:32 |
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| KodiakF | I've not read through the whole ask.ostack convo I linked as I'm multi-tasking at work | 15:33 |
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| thebloggu | KodiakF: i couldn't attach it. sure, thank you for your help :) | 15:36 |
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| KodiakF | Have you tried - just for hahas - restarting Cinder? | 15:37 |
| KodiakF | Might want to turn on debugging first before restarting | 15:37 |
| atpa8a | hmm | 15:38 |
| atpa8a | do i need l3-agent for flat network?.. | 15:38 |
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| Madkiss | folks, I've just heard somebody talking about a successor for Neutron | 15:43 |
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| Madkiss | referring to some 2-weeks old mailing list post | 15:43 |
| Madkiss | could somebody point me to that post kindly? thanks in advance. | 15:44 |
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| diego_ | Is neutron's L3 agent supposed to automatically determine which external bridge to use when I leave external_network_bridge and gateway_external_network_id empty? | 16:19 |
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| snowgust | I have 2 external networks on different network cards... I created two bridges (br-ex and br-ex-2) and I'm getting no luck configuring the L3 agent to use them correctly | 16:20 |
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| thebloggu | KodiakF: sorry once again. my problem with the internet connection seems to be fixed now | 16:36 |
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| KodiakF | thebloggu: wait so your Cinder thing was a connectivity issue? Cool | 16:37 |
| thebloggu | KodiakF: no, sorry, i meant i should not disconnect again :) | 16:38 |
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| KodiakF | lol cool lemme know what restarting cinder w/ Debug tells ya | 16:38 |
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| atpa8a | is there a good guide for neutron with flat network?.. | 16:40 |
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| atpa8a | getting Agent out of sync with plugin! | 16:44 |
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| sbfox | Hey all, is anybody here running an openstack cloud with vlans instead of gre/vxlan overlays? I specifically looking for help with the metadata server | 16:47 |
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| atpa8a | grrr | 17:00 |
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| atpa8a | NovaException: Unexpected vif_type=binding_failed\n'] | 17:00 |
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| snowgust | @atpa8a are you using gre tunnels? | 17:06 |
| KodiakF | RDO-centric question here - how are people handling Openstack-related package updates? Do they tend to be disruptive? Should I be planning to do them in the middle of the night and potentially bounce services? | 17:06 |
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| KodiakF | And I mean small updates in RPM version for patches, not havana -> icehouse or anything... | 17:09 |
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| thebloggu | KodiakF: now my problem is fixed :) stopped and started tgtd and everything is working now. thank you for your help | 17:09 |
| KodiakF | thebloggu: Glad to help! | 17:09 |
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| snowgust | @KodiakF can't talk exactly about RDO, but on my environment (ubuntu-based using openstack's repos) we had an update on havana that broke communication between the nova api server and compute nodes until we had updated all nova-compute package on the nodes | 17:09 |
| KodiakF | snowgust: That makes sense and I kind of expected that sort of thing. I'm considering implementing mcollective to force quick-succession updates across all hosts | 17:10 |
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| snowgust | yeah... we're using mcollective + puppet to manage updates and settings here | 17:11 |
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| snowgust | I haven't had this sort of problem on our icehouse based environment, though | 17:12 |
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| KodiakF | Sweet - maybe I'll bite the bullet and just run these yum updates | 17:13 |
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| atpa8a | snowgust: nope... neutron flat (supposed to be) | 17:15 |
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| snowgust | @KodiakF I have had to upgrade my Havana environment because I was hitting on some bugs (like nova not talking to glance) | 17:17 |
| KodiakF | I'm glad I started with Icehouse | 17:17 |
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| snowgust | yeah, Icehouse seems to be a lot more stable than havana | 17:20 |
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| snowgust | @atpa8a I've had a similar problem when my compute nodes weren't able to connect to the database | 17:21 |
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| atpa8a | hmm | 17:21 |
| snowgust | because it had exceeded the number of allowed connections | 17:21 |
| snowgust | you could try turning on neutron's verbose/debug on your node and look for any errors | 17:22 |
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| atpa8a | i don't have database problem... i think... will double check... | 17:22 |
| atpa8a | mine is an all-in-one | 17:22 |
| atpa8a | all works with nova-network but cannot get it to work with neutron | 17:22 |
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| snowgust | what does your neutron.conf and your ml2_conf.ini look like? | 17:23 |
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| skyler | For those of you using OpenStack in your development environment, did you move your DHCP server inside OpenStack? I am considering doing this, but I am worried that it might be too risky in case something goes wrong with OpenStack. | 17:24 |
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| gregory_pmd | hey all, having some issues with newly launched instances on a new deploy of Icehouse. seems the pem keys aren't working at all. | 17:30 |
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| lifeless | skyler: its really a lot better to use the internal DHCP server: its not wildcarded so it can co-exist well even on provider networks. | 17:30 |
| atpa8a | snowgust: http://paste.openstack.org/show/98287/ | 17:30 |
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| snowgust | @gregory_pmd is your instance receiving other data such as its hostname? If not, you probably have a problem with your metadata server | 17:31 |
| gregory_pmd | This is on Ubuntu 14.0.4 and on the Cirros test image. | 17:31 |
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| gregory_pmd | not sure...I'm terribly new to openstack. | 17:32 |
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| gregory_pmd | was actually working on Mirantis Fuel for a client, got it deployed and a subsequent icehouse deployment cloud. now just toying with it to learn more about it. | 17:33 |
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| gregory_pmd | at least on the test VM i can get to the console and default username/pass works | 17:35 |
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| gregory_pmd | but ssh to it fails even password auth. | 17:35 |
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| snowgust | @atpa8a you can try adding "service_plugins = router" to your neutron.conf | 17:38 |
| snowgust | @gregory_pmd form inside the vm are you able to reach the internet (or at least another device on the physical network) | 17:39 |
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| gregory_pmd | hrm... | 17:43 |
| gregory_pmd | no | 17:43 |
| atpa8a | snowgust: thanks... will try... | 17:43 |
| atpa8a | one thing i generally unclear on... do i need to recreate the networks when i change the configuratin?.. | 17:44 |
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| snowgust | @atpa8a no | 17:46 |
| snowgust | though I wouldn't be sure if you'd need to if you moved from flat to gre | 17:46 |
| snowgust | I never really used flat networks, only gre | 17:47 |
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| gregory_pmd | well, I can ping the default GW on the fixed network... | 17:48 |
| gregory_pmd | but not the GW for the public/floating. | 17:48 |
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| gregory_pmd | from inside console on cirros testvm | 17:48 |
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| skyler | lifeless: I was thinking to put a dchp server inside of openstack to serve machines outside of OpenStack (e.i., my physical machines). | 17:52 |
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| lifeless | skyler: ah sure, that would be good | 17:52 |
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| lifeless | skyler: long as you've got your openstack production ready - HA control plane etc | 17:52 |
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| snowgust | doesn't a dhcp server need to be on the same subnet as the physical machines? | 17:53 |
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| lifeless | snowgust: no | 17:53 |
| lifeless | snowgust: also you can put it on the same subnet using provider networks | 17:53 |
| skyler | lifeless: Right, so I should probably hold off on moving DHCP into OpenStack until I have time to make everything HA. | 17:53 |
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| skyler | snowgust: I could give the DHCP server a floating ip on the same subnet as the physical machines. | 17:54 |
| lifeless | snowgust: you need a dhcp / bootp relay agent on the broadcast domain | 17:54 |
| lifeless | skyler: floating IP won't work | 17:54 |
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| lifeless | skyler: you don't get broadcasts | 17:54 |
| lifeless | skyler: (its just NAT) - you need a provider network as a second vNIC on the VM, or a relay agent relaying to the floating IP. | 17:55 |
| skyler | lifeless: Thanks, you probably just saved me a lot of pain down the road. | 17:55 |
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| skyler | There wouldn't be any trouble putting my DNS server inside of OpenStack though, right? So my DCHP server would tell physical machines to look at a DNS server with a floating IP. | 17:57 |
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| snowgust | @lifeless I'll read more about provider networks... I didn't know I could bridge a physical network to the instances | 17:59 |
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| atpa8a | snowgust: you ever managed to implement gre fo all-in-one? | 18:00 |
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| snowgust | @atpa8a never tried an all-in-one. My requirements from the beggining involved a 3-node setup (network node + controller + compute nodes) | 18:01 |
| lifeless | skyler: no trouble at all | 18:01 |
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| lifeless | skyler: (and dhcp will work, its just got more precise requirements than dns) | 18:01 |
| snowgust | but I'm guessing it shouldn't make much of a difference | 18:01 |
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| skyler | lifeless: Great! Thanks. | 18:03 |
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| atpa8a | snowgust: so i thought but it wouldn't work | 18:03 |
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| lifeless | atpa8a: what do you expect gre on an all-in-one setup to do? | 18:04 |
| lifeless | atpa8a: or do you mean a scaled all-in-one e.g. 3 homogeneous nodes? | 18:04 |
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| atpa8a | something like that | 18:05 |
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| atpa8a | just want all services and instances to be on one machine | 18:06 |
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| atpa8a | don't care the type of network really | 18:06 |
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| snowgust | @lifeless do you happen to have experience in deploying multiple L3 agents in a single node? | 18:07 |
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| atpa8a | for gre i think the issue was INSTANCE_TUNNELS_INTERFACE_IP_ADDRESS | 18:08 |
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| atpa8a | it never assigned it and i could never ping it | 18:08 |
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| atpa8a | it should assign it to br-ex, right? | 18:10 |
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| lifeless | atpa8a: so gre tunnels only apply when you have multiple machines | 18:10 |
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| atpa8a | oh? | 18:11 |
| lifeless | atpa8a: how your services are laid out doesn't matter - with only one machine, you can't tunnel anywhere | 18:11 |
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| lifeless | atpa8a: if you had connectivity from outside -> VM issues, but only one openstack machine, its not your tunnel config :) | 18:11 |
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| lifeless | snowgust: no, I haven't, I was thinking about doing an experiment in that area - trying to get both docker and kvm running on one node at once. | 18:12 |
| atpa8a | so gre is not an option? that's fine but... did i miss that in the docs?.. | 18:12 |
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| lifeless | atpa8a: its not that it isn't an option, its that it isn't relevant. | 18:12 |
| lifeless | atpa8a: there are some great blog posts about how tenant networking works | 18:13 |
| lifeless | atpa8a: I suggest you read one - but quickly, to get you started | 18:13 |
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| snowgust | lifeless: I mean neutron's L3 agents :) Althouth kvm + docker is also on my roadmap. What I'm having trouble now is that I have 2 external networks I assign floating ips from, and each is in a external interface. If I follow the docs one of the agents seem to not receive updates from the queue | 18:13 |
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| lifeless | snowgust: so two external networks with one agent should be fine | 18:14 |
| lifeless | snowgust: but | 18:14 |
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| lifeless | snowgust: apparently you have to turn off the bridge option for the agent and instead let it plug a vif into br-int | 18:14 |
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| lifeless | snowgust: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1346494 has discussion about this | 18:14 |
| lifeless | atpa8a: so the VM has a vNIC which is represented on the hypervisor as a local interface. Thats hotplugged into br-int. | 18:15 |
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| lifeless | atpa8a: traffic from there is guided by openflow rules, | 18:15 |
| lifeless | atpa8a: so ARP for instance gets flodded to all vNICs on the same tenant network | 18:16 |
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| lifeless | atpa8a: Neutron DHCP and L3 services *also* run with such vNIC interfaces, also hot plugged into br-int. | 18:16 |
| atpa8a | ok... | 18:16 |
| lifeless | atpa8a: if there are multiple machines, the broadcast traffic to do DHCP and/or ARP has to cross machines | 18:16 |
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| atpa8a | lifeless: where are you leading me?.. | 18:18 |
| lifeless | thats where the gre tunnels come in | 18:18 |
| lifeless | (sorry, ELOCAL for a sec there) | 18:18 |
| lifeless | if there is just one machine | 18:18 |
| lifeless | then the DHCP agent and L3 agent will be plugged into the *same* br-int as the VM is | 18:18 |
| lifeless | so there's no need for traffic to enter the tunnel network | 18:19 |
| snowgust | lifeless: I did try that. But it only plugs into one br-ex and ignores the other completely. Using two agents, each with a gateway_external_network_id and external_network_bridge work but one of them stops receiving updates | 18:19 |
| atpa8a | ok!.. | 18:19 |
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| lifeless | atpa8a: (and a tunnel network with only one member can't send traffic anywhere anyway...) | 18:19 |
| snowgust | lifeless: I'm not sure the patch covers the two physical interfaces situation | 18:19 |
| lifeless | snowgust: if it plugged into br-ex the config was still wrong | 18:19 |
| atpa8a | ok :) | 18:19 |
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| atpa8a | is there a solution? | 18:20 |
| atpa8a | or use flat? | 18:20 |
| lifeless | atpa8a: so whats the actual /problem/ you have? how many machines hosting your openstack, how many vms, what wasn't working? | 18:20 |
| lifeless | snowgust: so the point was that my patch wasn't needed - but the l3 agent shouldn't be using br-ex at all | 18:20 |
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| atpa8a | just one machine... abut 5-6 VMs... small development setup... the tunnel IP would not be assigned to br-ex and i could never ping it (as recommended in the guide) | 18:22 |
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| lifeless | atpa8a: you could ping the vms ok? | 18:23 |
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| lifeless | atpa8a: they booted fine? | 18:23 |
| snowgust | lifeless: ok, maybe I didn't formulate my question correctly. The public interfaces from the routers created by L3 do not get attached to the br-ex interfaces | 18:23 |
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| atpa8a | i... failed the ping test and didn't get to booting vms | 18:23 |
| lifeless | snowgust: right, its not *meant* to - it should be on br-int; you have one br-ex bridge and you plug both physical interfaces into br-ex (probably using vlan tags to differentiate) | 18:24 |
| atpa8a | i can redo... but it's going to take time | 18:24 |
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| lifeless | snowgust: then you define the exterior network provider details for that with those tags and the rules you put on br-ex split them out to the right physical networks | 18:24 |
| lifeless | atpa8a: so that ping test sounds entirely irrelevant for a single machine setup. | 18:25 |
| lifeless | atpa8a: what guide were you following? | 18:25 |
| atpa8a | right now i'm having problems with even flat network on one machine | 18:25 |
| atpa8a | lifeless: ubuntu-14.04 icehouse from the site | 18:25 |
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| lifeless | atpa8a: flat sounds like not using neutron? personally I'd definitely use neutron, bit more of a learning curve but much more flexible | 18:26 |
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| lifeless | atpa8a: got a link to the page with the test on it? just want to see if I can put it in context for you | 18:26 |
| ICBeter | Hello all! I have a problem deleting a cinder volume. It takes forever... I read that it overwrites the complete volume with zeroes. Is there a solution to interrupt that? | 18:26 |
| atpa8a | i mean... i don't care if it's flat or vlan(i have the hardware) or gre | 18:26 |
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| atpa8a | lifeless: trying to use neutron because i have it all working with nova-network | 18:27 |
| snowgust | lifeless: so basically add both interfaces to a single br-ex? | 18:27 |
| snowgust | I'll try that | 18:28 |
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| atpa8a | lifeless: http://paste.openstack.org/show/98287/ if that's what you mean by "page with the test" | 18:28 |
| lifeless | atpa8a: I meant the url to the guide you were following :) | 18:29 |
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| snowgust | lifeless: how do I tell neutron which vlan to send from? one interface is vlan 30 and the other 40, in my case | 18:29 |
| atpa8a | lifeless: http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/install-guide/install/apt/content/index.html | 18:29 |
| lifeless | snowgust: ah, they're already vlans? even easier | 18:29 |
| lifeless | snowgust: are they vconfig based vlans? | 18:29 |
| jab416171 | where are users stored in essex? | 18:29 |
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| lifeless | snowgust: or ovs access ports? | 18:29 |
| snowgust | lifeless: yes, both come from the same router, although on different physical network cables | 18:30 |
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| lifeless | atpa8a: is this http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/install-guide/install/apt/content/neutron_initial-networks-verify.html what you were looking at? | 18:31 |
| lifeless | I'm going to have to go so folk, sorry. | 18:31 |
| snowgust | lifeless: actually the router is not set up with trunking, so I don't see the vlan tags | 18:31 |
| snowgust | lifeless: thank you for the directions. I'll look into it | 18:31 |
| lifeless | snowgust: ok cool - so you could consider bonding the interfaces and trunking those two vlans | 18:31 |
| lifeless | snowgust: that would make it a lot easier and give you HA too | 18:31 |
| atpa8a | lifeless: yes | 18:31 |
| lifeless | snowgust: that said for your current setup | 18:31 |
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| lifeless | snowgust: ulp thats me | 18:32 |
| lifeless | snowgust: good luck! | 18:32 |
| snowgust | lifeless: I'll try, although probably the network guys won't like the idea and I'll have to do with two networks | 18:32 |
| snowgust | ty | 18:32 |
| atpa8a | router ip was not assigned | 18:32 |
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| atpa8a | snowgust: are you using vlans? | 18:54 |
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| KodiakF | sputnik13: yep probably a lot of people - it's pretty cool. I run a Fedora 20 VM at work mostly to have the new(er) version of it | 18:59 |
| sputnik13 | KodiakF: do you know how to run it without root permissions? | 18:59 |
| KodiakF | run it on an image file that isn't blocked by rootly file perms? | 18:59 |
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| sputnik13 | the image file is owned by me, I don't know why it's erroring | 19:00 |
| KodiakF | paste an error :) | 19:00 |
| sputnik13 | or do you mean something else? | 19:00 |
| sputnik13 | the error comes back from supermin | 19:00 |
| sputnik13 | I'm on Ubuntu 14.04 | 19:01 |
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| KodiakF | No idea on Ubuntu I use it on Fedora - but paste an error and we can probably help decypher | 19:01 |
| sputnik13 | ohhhh, wait I'm an idiot | 19:01 |
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| sputnik13 | feel free to disagree with that :-) | 19:02 |
| sputnik13 | but i'm an idiot :) | 19:02 |
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| sputnik13 | I turned on debug and didn't see the error message | 19:02 |
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| sputnik13 | I just caught it after looking at it for the 3rd time :) | 19:03 |
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| sputnik13 | no read permission on /boot/vm... | 19:03 |
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| mwoodson | in the nova mysql instances table, there is a "deleted" field. it's an int. what is that int? | 20:51 |
| mwoodson | or maybe a better question, how can i tell who deleted an instances | 20:51 |
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| dneary | cdub, Ping? | 21:20 |
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| KodiakF | mwoodson: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/AuditLogging ? | 21:30 |
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| KodiakF | Looks like nova must at least be able to do some audit logging | 21:31 |
| KodiakF | I'm also seeing hits for ceilometer but haven't installed it yet | 21:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | KodiakF: just a heads up, ceilometer is kind of crap :/ | 21:33 |
| KodiakF | boooo | 21:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | it may just stop working after a month | 21:33 |
| KodiakF | My bosses want it up and going for chargebacks | 21:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | it might be fine for you, but just a heads up | 21:33 |
| KodiakF | does it stop working after a month with a sputter or fireworks? | 21:34 |
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| cdrakka | Any opinions on the "RDO" Openstack environment, in terms of usability as well as learning Openstack? | 22:35 |
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| eflynn | Can someone look at this and figure out why it does this? http://imgur.com/aKIH19B | 23:04 |
| eflynn | notice the total gigabytes | 23:04 |
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| eflynn | (it’s running ceph as the backend) | 23:05 |
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| eflynn | anyone alive | 23:07 |
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| angdraug | eflynn: could be related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1332660 | 23:30 |
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| angdraug | may be a similar bad assumption about disk capacity/usage leaked to horizon, too | 23:31 |
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