Tuesday, 2014-09-02

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TP__Hey Guys, Is it possible to authenticate users for Openstack Horizon via CAS?01:39
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larsksTP__: I have the weirdest feeling of deja vu.  If Apache can authenticate via CAS then you can put Keystone behind Apache and use external authentcation (http://docs.openstack.org/developer/keystone/external-auth.html).01:42
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larsksSpecifically, http://docs.openstack.org/developer/keystone/external-auth.html#using-httpd-authentication01:42
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TP__larksks: So I'll need to Develop a WSGI middleware for authentication too?01:44
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TP__larsks: I'm confused between Httpd Authentication and Developing a WSGI middleware for authentication for CAS..Do I need to do both?01:47
larsksTP__: Nope, those are two options you have.01:47
larsksPick one.01:47
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TP__larsks: Hmm..I've the second one in place...But I'm not able to test it..Do you have any idea how to test it?01:48
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larsksTP__: By "the second one", you mean you have set up some wsgi middleware for cas authentication?01:48
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TP__larsks: Yes,...I used some code from https://github.com/enolfc/keystone_cas01:49
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larsksI'm not familiar with CAS, but the way to test it would be to get some sort of authentication token from your CAS environment and then try to use that to authenticate against something using the CAS middleware.01:51
larsksYou might want open an issue against the github repository requesting some documentation :)01:51
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TP__larsks: ha..ha.. well do you know do that for this method do I need to run Keystone on HTTPD.?01:52
larsksTP__: Not actually a joke; I was serious.  If someone has taken the time to write that module presumably they are using it somewhere (or were using it somewhere) and and can provide practical advice.01:52
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larsksTP__: As I said earlier, if you're using the wsgi middleware you don't need to use httpd; keystone is also running with a wsgi stack configure with the api-paste.conf (or keystone-paste.conf, or whatever it happens to be called locally).01:53
larskss/also/already/01:53
TP__larsks: Yeah sure thing..I'll do that then..01:53
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larsksAlso, are you trying just to get *horizon* to authenticate against CAS? Or do you actually WANT CAS users to be able to authenticate directly to openstack API endpoints?01:55
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TP__I want to start with Horizon..but end result can be what you are saying..01:56
larsksNeat.  Just curious.01:57
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TP__larsks: Let's see I've filed an Issue. Will share the end results with community If i'm successful. Thanks for your input.02:00
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TP__larsks: Hey do you have any idea where should I keep the filter in my pipeline:public-api for CAS. http://docs.openstack.org/developer/keystone/external-auth.html#pipeline-configuration02:04
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larsksTP__: I don't know beyond what it says in that doc ("bfore public_service").02:06
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larsksI would guess one side or other of the existing auth filters would make the most sense, but I don't know what the impact is going to be for either location.02:06
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TP__larsks: okay..02:08
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Fetchcan openstack (particularly neutron) persistently cache things like database and table names between restarts? I'm running into a problem on Icehouse where ML2 table names are being accessed by the l3 agent, despite no ml2 plugin being active. Likewise I was getting database accesses to the pre-migration database name despite it not being in files02:50
Fetchcurious if sqlalchemy ORM can store mappings somewhere02:50
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Sam-I-Ami wonder if something in the db is causing a mis-reference02:56
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tejuhi all...i would like to test pxe boot using ironic. can I do this only with nova? , i mean without neutron?04:37
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rahulcan we share graphic card using openstack05:29
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WaitFishhello05:38
WaitFishcan anybody give a centos base img file  url05:38
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WaitFishI have no redhat accont05:38
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WaitFish??05:39
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aveekWaitFish http://www.centos.org/download/mirrors/05:40
aveekhttp://docs.openstack.org/image-guide/content/centos-image.html05:41
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Guest4950rahul has changed nick to Guest495005:43
Guest4950can we share graphic card using openstack05:44
WaitFishI want get the img file05:44
WaitFishjust like the ubuntu img05:44
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aveekWaitFish http://wiki.centos.org/Download05:47
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nikhanhello, is there a way i can have mysql_user set a password for user foo@hostname06:21
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nikhanargh wrong room sorry06:22
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chgriHello guys. I would like to ask a question.07:41
chgriCan I set up a compute node in a machine that does not support VT-x by just using qemu instead of kvm hypervisor?07:42
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chgriI want to set up OpenStack and by using Virtual box to make the Virtual nodes nested vistualization extensions are not visible to the nodes07:43
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geirTHi, I have an issue with openvswitch on a network node, seems like the internal vm-net bridge cant be created. Worked yesterday. Anyone?08:06
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sergeyshplease, anybody who can merge to global requirements, look at: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118224/11:25
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journeyer123you so dummy dumm duum dummy11:28
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journeyer123you so xexy11:29
journeyer123sex sex sexy11:29
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_2_fredianyks2hello there12:49
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larsksIs it possible to trigger Heat autoscaling actions without using ceilometer? E.g., to keep a fixed number of servers running (start a server if there are < N servers running).13:09
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smoserjlibosva are you around ?14:03
jlibosvasmoser: hi, I am14:03
smoserwe're seeing a regression in metadata service performance14:03
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smoserthat seems to have come from bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/127644014:03
smoserbug for regression is http://pad.lv/136135714:03
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smoserit doesn't make a lot of sense to me as you intended to *add* a cache .  even though the default cache is off, it shouldn't have made things worse.14:04
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jlibosvasmoser: sorry, I don't follow. The performance decreases when having cache in metadata that caches queries going to neutron?14:06
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smoserjlibosva, well, you defaulted the cache to 'off'14:07
smoseras i understand14:07
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smoserso we inherited that default14:07
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smoserbut we see a performance regression14:07
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smoserwhere as i would have expected net-zero in that case.14:07
smoserand that if we enabled the cache we'd improve.14:07
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smoserso clearly we can enable the cache, but the performance regression is concerning.14:07
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jlibosvasmoser: in Juno, cache is turned on by default. Icehouse doesn't change any default behavior as there hasn't been any cache.14:08
smoserthat makes sense then. we are running icehouse.14:08
smoserbut we should not have seen a regression other htan negligable14:08
smoseryet we're seeing significant.  some instances are taking 80 seconds to boot where before they were taking 10.14:09
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jlibosvasmoser: IIUC - you're saying that Icehouse has worse performance during cloud-init than Juno?14:09
smoser2014.1.2 has worse performance than 2014.1.114:09
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smoserand further, 2014.1.2 minus that change performs similarly to 2014.1.114:09
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jlibosvasmoser: now I get it14:10
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smoserunfortunately at this point i dont know about performance if cache is enabled.14:10
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smoseri asked coreycb just now to test that and see14:11
smoserbut clearly we should not have regressed so far by just adding that option.14:11
jlibosvasmoser: anyway, the performance should stay the same. I don't see any expensive operation there. Let me think14:11
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smoserjlibosva, right. that was exactly my thoughts.14:12
smoserthus pinging you :)14:12
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jlibosvasmoser: the only thing that comes to my mind is calling qclient = self._get_neutron_client() several times ...14:15
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smoserjlibosva, that would make sense though14:17
smoserthats a network operation14:17
jlibosvasmoser: it shouldn't be, all creds are re-used. I think that should be cheap operation. But maybe I'm wrong and that's the bottleneck14:18
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smoserjlibosva, thanks for the thinking. i'll see if we can't test that hypothesis here.14:20
jlibosvasmoser: thanks for noticing me :) I'll try to test it locally on my env and profile the code14:20
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JamesHarrisonI've got two boxes, one controller which is also the neutron server, and one compute node, which is just running neutron-plugin-openvswitch-agent, nova-compute and openvswitch. Icehouse, ml2 plugin, Ubuntu 14.04. VMs booted on the compute node can't get DHCP and don't seem to be able to talk to the external network. ovs-vsctl show shows a gre tunnel on br-tun which looks right, a patch between -tun and14:29
JamesHarrison-int, and a port on int for the one VM I have booted so that looks fine14:29
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JamesHarrisonovs-vswitchd.log has lots of tunnel(miss_handler)|WARN|receive tunnel port not found (192.168.88.91->192.168.88.90, key=0x2, dp port=3, pkt mark=0) and |ofproto_dpif_upcall(miss_handler)|INFO|received packet on unassociated datapath port 314:29
JamesHarrison(.91 is the compute node, .90 is the controller)14:30
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SoorajDoes virtualizied NICs required to launch the instances ? Please anybody help...14:34
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pcnIs there a troubleshooting guide for neutron?  If ovsdb stops working, the only strategy I have is to tear down everything and re-build my private and public network on the controller and kvm boxes.16:35
pcnand dnsmasqd16:35
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fyb3rother than going through the admin guide, npot really16:51
fyb3rneutron really tests your knowledge of networking in a linux environment 0,o16:51
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pcnYes.  It's fun as a puzzle, but I don't envy anyone who is trying to make it production ready.16:57
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fyb3r:) i spent a month getting mine going lol17:00
fyb3rand printed out every manual that the site has17:00
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Sam-I-Amwhy does ovsdb stop working?17:18
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KodiakF1is it known why hypervisors randomly throw this:  Stderr: 'Host key verification failed.\\r\ while trying to do a live migration?  (and no, the host keys are never changed on my hypervisors...)  (and yes, from googling this happens too often...)17:21
pcnSam-I-Am: That's an interesting question: I'm connecting to the ovsdb and collecting metrics via ovsdb-client monitor, and it will stop working at some point17:21
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snowgustKodiakF1: Thats actually a openssh message... you can check the file /var/lib/nova/.ssh/known_hosts for the server fingerprints17:22
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snowgustKodiakF1: On my envionment I created a file "/var/lib/nova/.ssh/config" telling the ssh client to ignore hostkeys for hypervisors17:23
Sam-I-Ampcn: what ver of ovs?17:23
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KodiakF1seems dangerous to ignore host keys "changing" but the thing is, I'm not changing anything on the hypervisors so the keys shouldn't be changing17:24
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snowgustKodiakF1: the "safe" alternative would be to use a common known_hosts files accross your hypervisors17:25
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snowgustKodiakF1: then again, you can check the known_hosts from the server you see this happening. You can also log in as the nova user and try to manually ssh into the hypervisor the server was trying to migrate the instance to and check if the message happens17:26
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pcnSam-I-Am: 2.0.1+git20140120-0ubuntu2~cloud1 from ubuntu 12.0417:28
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pcnThat's on the controller, where I'm checking perf17:28
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pcnSame on the hypervisor host17:29
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Sharath_Hi am new to openstack,i have few doubts please clarify me .!! am started with installation and done with it , now am started understanding openstack internals and wanted to contribute to forum17:32
Sharath_ when am reading nova , i got one doubt , found 2 databases one is ldap and other one is DB , what is the difference b/w these 2 ?  nova-volume is became cinder , how these DB's communicate from NOVA ?17:33
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KodiakF1snowgust - fair points - I've just made a known_hosts on all hypervisors.  This should probably be part of the live migration docs17:34
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KodiakF1any advice for bringing a medium number of instances out of error status?  I've got like 8 to bring back out of error status after the failed migration17:36
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Sam-I-Ampcn: i think thats the latest version17:36
Sharath_can anyone explain or guide about it ?17:36
Sam-I-Ampcn: does this only happen when you poll ovs?17:36
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pcnThis is a test system, so I don't have much/any traffic going through it.  So far it's only happening when I am connected to it using monitor17:37
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snowgustSharath_: Keystone (which is responsible for authentication and authorization) is able to use user/tenants either from a database or a ldap tree17:37
Sam-I-Ampcn: i wonder if thats a known issue. i've never seen ovs stop responding under normal circumstances.17:37
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pcnOK, I'll start looking around launchpad and github17:38
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snowgustKodiakF1: A simple for loop with nova reset-state --active :)17:39
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Sam-I-Ampcn: people's mileage seems to vary with ovs17:40
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Sharath_my question is i have read some white papers and some architecture diagrams , their they shown nova api connected to mysql , nova api connected to hadoop (savanna plugin) mangodb with different plugin17:41
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Sharath_what is these plugins and which nova api will establish the conncetion to DB ?17:41
Sharath_what is the role of cinder , swift and external DB ?17:42
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KodiakF1snowgust: thanks17:43
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Sharath_snowgust thanks17:45
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KodiakF1is openstack supposed to create ssh keys for all the hypervisors when you set up live migrations or is that a manual step?  I17:49
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dtrainorTrying to become a little more clear on stuff, when I light up a new guest based on an image, the image is copied from my glance on to the hyper's local filesystem.  Subsequent changes to that image, e.g. I'm using it and writing stuff to it, go where?18:02
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Guest70626dtrainor:18:06
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dtrainorGuest7062618:10
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Guest70626dtrainor:if the image is in qcow2 format the changes you make inside your instance will be captured in "/var/lib/nova/instances/UUID/disk"18:12
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Guest70626dtrainor:it's kind of like thin provisioning18:13
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dtrainorgot it.18:13
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Guest70626dtrainor: this is a good read even though it's old: http://www.pixelbeat.org/docs/openstack_libvirt_images/#136176441218:17
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dtrainorthanks!18:19
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dtrainorWhen overcommitting or changing nova.conf parameters, which nova.conf do I edit?  Just the compute nodes?  controllers?18:23
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Guest70626dtrainor:it depends on what you change, for overcommitting you should change nova.conf where the nova-scheduler runs18:24
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KodiakF1is there an easy rebalance strategy for live migrating hosts after lumping them onto other hypervisors for a hypervisor reboot & upgrade cycle?18:26
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Guest70626KodiakF1:I don't think there is; I would recommend you have an empty host that you use as destination for the migrations18:28
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Favorettievening.18:31
KodiakF1Guest70626:  fair enough18:31
Favorettiis there a way to reliably detect (poll) when cloud-init of a particular compute node has finished running and whether it was successful?18:32
Favorettii.e. in a scenario of a heat template that requires one instance to be up (and configured) before spawning other instances?18:32
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pcnSam-I-Am: building 2.3.0 seems to make things work for newly launched instances.  I'm going to go off and see if I can restart the existing instances, and see if this continues to work.18:51
Sam-I-Ammmkay18:51
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pcnYeah, I'm not so happy about having to manually replace things with a self-built pacakge.  I'm going to re-launch the instances I had, and just do the same thing and see what happens18:55
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sgranFavoretti: you're looking for something called a WaitCondition18:55
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Favorettisgran: yeah, seems like I've googled it, problem being in Havana you need admin rights to use it and I don't have them :(19:01
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Favorettisgran: thanks though! :)19:02
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sgranthat doesn't seem right to me19:07
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sgranoh, you need to create an IAM user for it19:07
sgranthat is right19:07
Favorettisgran: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/openstack/dev/3142319:07
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FavorettiI'm playing with a corporate openstack instance, can't do anything with user, i _am_ a user in this case :)19:07
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blubberdiHi, I'm using Openstack 2012.1.3 (essex) on ubuntu 12.04. I have 6 compute nodes and configured a availability zone for every compute node (because I didn't know I can boot instances with "zone:host" to specify the target host). I now want to migrate an Instance from one computer node (zone) to another compute node (zone). Is this possible?19:14
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blubberdiIs it possible to change the availability zone of a compute node?19:46
blubberdi(without stopping/restarting/.... the instances on this compute node)19:46
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Guest70626blubberdi:if you change the settings in nova.conf and restart the nova-compute service the change should be applied without impacting the running instances, but this might not solve your problem as existing instances would still show up under the old availability zone19:49
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Guest70626blubberdi:you can manually update the nova db tables, but there is a risk of breaking things; I would recommend to snapshot the running instances so you have have a backup in Glance before doing any of these19:50
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blubberdiGuest70626: Ok, thanks!19:51
blubberdiGuest70626: I will try it,19:51
Guest70626blubberdi:good luck19:52
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larsksDoes anyone know how many samples are required in ceilometer before an alarm will move beyond "insufficient data"?20:02
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blubberdiGuest97093: I now have two compute nodes as one zone. If I start a new instance in this zone and then migrate it, it still migrates on the same host :(20:05
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jdandreaWhile setting up heat-engine (during an upgrade) I got "No handlers could be found for logger "heat.common.config"" ... anything I should be concerned about?20:22
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Sam-I-AmKodiakF1: did you see my comment on your bug?20:41
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qwebirc65234hi all20:53
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qwebirc65234anybody have a good proposal in the area of Openstack for a master thesis?20:54
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qwebirc65234anybody have a good proposal in the area of Openstack for a master thesis?20:55
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LiberTerrayou might get some ideas here…  although I am completely new to Openstack and trying to get my head around the whole thing  …  http://getpocket.com/a/read/70478349820:57
LiberTerraor the original link, not my get pocket link:  http://getcloudify.org/2014/09/02/Open-Cloud-OpenStack-Cloud.html20:57
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nunizacufor 5 days i was asking for little hep and got one from dev21:01
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nunizacuirc suporrt.. chat channel21:01
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nunizacuall my vm's stuck at spawning error 500 cant create interface and this is 3 channel wheere i get no response21:03
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bjornar_does horizon support cinder-backup? cant seem to find it..21:11
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LiberTerranunizacu: would try and help you but I am just standing up an openstack environment myself21:11
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skullonehrm, seems most people are starting to switch to 0mq lately for openstack21:12
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skullonei need to follow the trend :o21:12
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bjornar_0iq ?21:13
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larsksbjornar_: 0mq, aka zeromq.  It's a "brokerless" messaging system.21:16
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larsksskullone: most folks I know are still running with rabbitmq.21:16
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bjornar_larsks, I know21:18
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larsksWell, now we all know :).  I got the joke too late.21:18
bjornar_I like rabbitmqs ha21:18
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bjornar_any answer to my horizon/cinder-backup question? is there a gui for backup?21:19
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s3an2I think there was another project for backups 'Raksha'21:26
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crinkleI'm looking at http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-identity-v2.html and http://docs.openstack.org/developer/keystone/configuration.html#adding-users-tenants-and-roles-with-python-keystoneclient and trying to understand how the OS_SERVICE_TOKEN used with python-keystoneclient relates to the token id used to authenticate directly with the API.21:53
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crinkleAre they related at all? can the admin_token from keystone.conf be used with the api in some way?21:53
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Favoretticrinkle: do you have an admin user? if so, you can use that user's token to add other users21:56
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Favoretticrinkle: if not, then yes, you can use the admin_token from [DEFAULT] section of keystone.conf. Which is also, basically, what the docs say :)21:58
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crinkleFavoretti: I have an admin user, I'm confused about how that admin_token can be used with the API as opposed to with the keystoneclient21:59
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Favoretticrinkle: keystoneclient is essentially an API client, so if I understand it all correctly it's interchangeable22:00
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crinkleFavoretti: that is what I thought, but after experimenting it seems like the alphanumeric admin_token used as the OS_SERVICE_TOKEN for keystoneclient is different from the hex token id expected in the api call22:02
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crinkleit seems like with the API you have to request the token via passworded credentials first, whereas with keystone client you can skip that by using the admin_token from keystone.conf22:03
crinkleso maybe I just need to dig deeper in the docs22:03
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skylerWhen I try to start my instance, nova-api gets stuck in a loop and the instance never makes it past scheduling: http://paste.openstack.org/show/104916/22:07
skylerThe nova-api.log posted above shows a cycle of three requests coming in over  and over again.22:08
skylerAnyone know why this might be?22:08
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Favoretticrinkle: hmm, good one. not sure tbh, just starting to play around with OS myself :)22:11
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crinkleFavoretti: alright, thanks for trying :)22:12
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sputnik13when I connect to mysql and try to look at the neutron database...  it's empty22:27
sputnik13no tables22:27
sputnik13is that normal?  I'm guessing it's not...22:27
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Sam-I-Amsputnik13: should be populated if you configured it right and started neutron-server22:28
Sam-I-Amalso assuming you're using packages22:28
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sputnik13Sam-I-Am: yeah, well, neutron works...  when I run the python neutron client and query floating IPs, it returns information...22:28
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sputnik13but somehow the database is empty22:29
Sam-I-Amso there must be something in the db22:29
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sputnik13so a bit confused22:29
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sputnik13awwwwwwwwwwwww22:29
sputnik13crap22:30
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sputnik13oops, excuse me for the language22:30
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sputnik13I think it's using sqlite22:30
sputnik13I got everything installed and configured with puppet...  I expected it would have been configured to use mysql22:31
sputnik13dang it22:31
Sam-I-Amwhoops22:31
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sputnik13are there existing methods for migrating from sqlite to mysql?22:31
Sam-I-Amif you can dump the db you can probably move it to mysql22:32
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tab_Hi. Does Open Stack Horizon project also work with Ceph's RadosGW - so to create containers and upload objects over WEB GUI?22:58
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dtrainorWith regards to a nova flat network - or any other network in the world i guess - if my compute node is on 10.16.0.0/24, guest is 10.18.0.0, and floating is 10.17.0.0, what does the compute node's routing look like in order to pass traffic?  Would traffic still originate from 10.18.0.0/24 (opposed to 10.17.0.0/24)?23:16
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Sam-I-Amdepends how you configured it, but there's usually nat involved23:19
Sam-I-Amwith a floating ip, traffic from the vm should appear from that ip23:20
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dtrainorshould appear from guest -> host, as coming from the vip?23:20
Sam-I-Amshould come from the floating ip23:21
dtrainorok23:21
dtrainorNova told my guest to use a gateway of 10.18.0.3.  10.18.0.3 is on br100 of the compute node.  why .3?23:24
dtrainorthat's the significance of .3?23:24
Sam-I-Amthe guests routing table says .3?23:26
dtrainoryeah23:26
dtrainor|   0   |   0.0.0.0   | 10.18.0.3 |    0.0.0.0    |    eth0   |   UG23:26
Sam-I-Amwhats .1 and .2? sometimes one of them is the dhcp server.23:26
Sam-I-Ami'm not much of a nova-network guy23:26
dtrainorneither am I :/23:27
dtrainor.1 and .2 are.... not sure any more, i blew the deployment away trying to get the installer to work23:27
dtrainorso i'm doing another one23:27
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Sam-I-Amha23:28
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dtrainorso regardless of floating IPs or guest IPs or networks or ranges, all the connectivity done with regards to guests accessing anything outside is handled by some NAT trickery?23:31
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Sam-I-Amdepends on your configuration23:32
dtrainoryea pretty much everything does, doesn't it23:32
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dtrainorthat's why it's so hard to find solid answers23:32
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dtrainorwhich parts of my setup would that be dependent on?23:34
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Sam-I-Amhow you built the networks mostly23:38
dtrainorI let the foreman installer do that.  Using a Nova network type because I know that's flat.23:38
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Sam-I-Ami need to go make dinner23:43
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dtrainormake somethin good23:46
dtrainorthanks23:46
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