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| kodiak1 | maybe check and re-check all metadata related neutron settings | 00:08 |
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| nunizacu | fixed it ! | 00:18 |
| nunizacu | its bug in code | 00:18 |
| nunizacu | i have hostname with capital letters | 00:18 |
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| nunizacu | and metadata looks for lowercase | 00:18 |
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| nunizacu | someone should send this as a bug | 00:19 |
| nunizacu | you cant hava MetaData - only metadata works | 00:19 |
| nunizacu | or any hostname you like | 00:19 |
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| nunizacu | great, now dhcp stoped working, geez | 00:23 |
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| nunizacu | damn, not exactly fixed | 00:25 |
| nunizacu | curl to clean url works, but not directory in url | 00:25 |
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| visualne | hello, does anyone know why the heat-db-setup program is not installed | 00:31 |
| visualne | when I do this | 00:31 |
| visualne | yum install openstack-heat-* | 00:31 |
| visualne | I then did a find / -name heat-db-setup | 00:32 |
| visualne | cant find anything | 00:32 |
| visualne | you have any idea why that is | 00:32 |
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| daniel3_ | So, I have an instance that is stuck in deleting state, but it is in ACTIVE status. Can the task_state be reset so it won't delete, or in general is this instance virtually already gone? | 00:50 |
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| nunizacu | delete it from virsh and db | 00:52 |
| nunizacu | rememeber to update all fields refefring to it | 00:52 |
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| nunizacu | but it's voodoo | 00:52 |
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| nunizacu | too bad there is no --force delete | 00:53 |
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| nunizacu | or try reset-state | 00:53 |
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| nunizacu | it shouldnt be active anymore | 00:53 |
| nunizacu | then try to delete | 00:54 |
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| daniel3_ | reset-state didn't work. Im trying to save this instance cause it was never suppose to be deleted. That is why I was asking if it could be salvaged. If not than oh well | 01:01 |
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| nunizacu | maybe try to snapshot | 01:15 |
| nunizacu | not sure if it's good for you or if it even work but wort a try | 01:16 |
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| nunizacu | and i cant get over this damn neutron proxy | 01:16 |
| daniel3_ | This is just a hot mess. Apparently this instance was suppose to be reset, but was instead put in deleting state. I'm trying to clean up after people :( | 01:17 |
| daniel3_ | I could easily clear the instance if it actually needs to be deleting. Ill see if we can snapshot it, or back it up somehow. | 01:17 |
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| skullone | man, openstack is kind of a pain to roll by hand | 01:40 |
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| kodiak1 | skullone: Yep - might want to look at StayPuft, Fuel, or Triple-O | 01:43 |
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| kodiak1 | Or the Rackspace product - I think it's just called Rackspace Openstack - no flashy name | 01:44 |
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| kodiak1 | I just finished the manual deploy on RHEL 6.5 w/ Neutron ML2, GRE for 10 hosts and I won't be doing that again... | 01:44 |
| skullone | hehe | 01:44 |
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| daniel3_ | Can't image-create the instance, looks like its SOL. | 01:47 |
| daniel3_ | being in task-state delete just prevents it from doing anything. | 01:48 |
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| daniel3_ | Pardon me for the noob sounding question ;). When using the python cli: nova.server.get(id).attr <-- what would the attribute be for pulling the fixed ip address from that instance ID? | 02:53 |
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| nunizacu | tried fixedip ? | 03:12 |
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| nunizacu | or ip['fixed'] or variations? | 03:12 |
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| narayana | is it possible to send my own action/data or event to a VM using dashboard? | 03:18 |
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| nunizacu | its django, write some | 03:18 |
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| nunizacu | directly thru dashboard no | 03:19 |
| nunizacu | but you can plug in function | 03:19 |
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| narayana | nunizacu: pug in function means , could you please elaborate | 03:21 |
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| nunizacu | means read the code behind dashboard and add function you need | 03:25 |
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| narayana | I want to stop a process in VM either using dashboard or nova-api | 03:26 |
| nunizacu | it's easier to do using ssh | 03:26 |
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| nunizacu | and lot to write to list processes and kill thhem or restart | 03:27 |
| nunizacu | well, if it was not it wouldnt go into mainstream i might write such thing | 03:27 |
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| nunizacu | but i hate python | 03:28 |
| narayana | but I want to do it using nova api or extension api | 03:28 |
| narayana | is it possible to do that | 03:28 |
| nunizacu | you cant - it doesnt work that way | 03:28 |
| nunizacu | as far as i know you cant | 03:28 |
| nunizacu | you can do it by ssh connection | 03:29 |
| nunizacu | you could write a php page witch connects to servers, gets process list and gives you events to do with them | 03:29 |
| narayana | do we have any nova compute api which accept user data | 03:29 |
| nunizacu | like second dashboard | 03:29 |
| nunizacu | compute api is frontend for hypervisor | 03:30 |
| nunizacu | and hypervisor dont care if you use linux, bsd or windows | 03:30 |
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| narayana | yes, I do not want to use another dashboard | 03:30 |
| narayana | have to integrate with existing one | 03:31 |
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| nunizacu | so you have to write some py code | 03:31 |
| nunizacu | there is a lot of code to read, so after some time you should be able to do it | 03:31 |
| nunizacu | i find it easier to just ssh command or simple php frontend | 03:32 |
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| nunizacu | or even php frontend as frame inside dashboard | 03:32 |
| narayana | how to use php dashboard as frame | 03:32 |
| nunizacu | but most elegant would be writing integrated one | 03:32 |
| nunizacu | well, if you dont know what frame is you will have hard time writing anything | 03:33 |
| nunizacu | start by add button to vm's like 'proceses' | 03:33 |
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| narayana | I know python but never used frames | 03:34 |
| nunizacu | but you need to write some htm | 03:34 |
| nunizacu | s/htm/html | 03:34 |
| nunizacu | if you know python forget frames | 03:35 |
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| narayana | do we have any reference link or doc which explains frames usage for integration | 03:35 |
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| nunizacu | better find command witch will list processess you are interested into | 03:35 |
| nunizacu | frame is just loose idea, couse i find php easier to write such things | 03:35 |
| nunizacu | if you know python and html go that way | 03:36 |
| nunizacu | first of all, make commands | 03:36 |
| narayana | ok | 03:36 |
| nunizacu | command to list processess | 03:36 |
| narayana | ok | 03:36 |
| nunizacu | command to HUP process | 03:36 |
| nunizacu | command to KILL | 03:36 |
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| nunizacu | and so on | 03:36 |
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| nunizacu | and command to filter it into something you can parse | 03:36 |
| narayana | ok | 03:37 |
| nunizacu | then add button to active vm's like processes | 03:37 |
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| nunizacu | with will redirect to new page with processess list and commands | 03:37 |
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| narayana | my script will ssh to the vm and performs the required action | 03:38 |
| nunizacu | you can do it that way | 03:38 |
| narayana | any other way to do that | 03:38 |
| nunizacu | but ssh from where? :D | 03:38 |
| narayana | from controller to vm | 03:38 |
| nunizacu | if it's ip is accessible | 03:38 |
| narayana | if ip is not accessible | 03:39 |
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| narayana | in that case how can i execute my commands | 03:39 |
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| nunizacu | well, good point | 03:39 |
| nunizacu | mad idea - cirros instances in every teant | 03:40 |
| nunizacu | or something even lighter | 03:40 |
| nunizacu | as a teant process controller | 03:40 |
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| nunizacu | with public ip | 03:40 |
| nunizacu | then double ssh | 03:41 |
| nunizacu | or maybe you could use vnc | 03:41 |
| narayana | ok | 03:41 |
| nunizacu | if you can get console, maybe you can get some more direct access | 03:41 |
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| nunizacu | thats loose idea | 03:42 |
| nunizacu | there are probably betteer | 03:42 |
| nunizacu | but vnc console gives you direct access to console | 03:43 |
| narayana | I will explore keeping this approach in my mind | 03:43 |
| nunizacu | cirros is weak idea | 03:43 |
| narayana | is there any api which will allow us to send data to console | 03:43 |
| nunizacu | nothing i know of | 03:44 |
| nunizacu | right know i can only thing of reverse enginering | 03:44 |
| nunizacu | or googlealot | 03:45 |
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| narayana | I would like to understand about frames, do we have any url, doc which explainds how to use it for integration | 03:46 |
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| narayana | this concept will help me in integration | 03:47 |
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| nunizacu | or noone lift a finger to help untill he has everything on a plate | 04:01 |
| nunizacu | like i'm openstack guru or developer | 04:02 |
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| eglynn_ | ttx: good morning! ... those last 2 xenapi-support patches have now landed | 06:24 |
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| eglynn_ | ttx: so ceilometer juno-3 is good to tag when you're ready today | 06:25 |
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| ttx | eglynn_: awesome! | 06:25 |
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| eglynn_ | ttx: BTW we'll be looking for 2 FFEs I think: bigger-data-sql & ipmi-support ... to be discussed on the ML tmrw I guess? | 06:27 |
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| skullone | hrm interesting, ovs seems to be attemting to bring up a bridge interface in some sort of loop, just repeats itself | 06:28 |
| skullone | anyone ever see ovs/neutron bring up/down interfaces in a loop? | 06:28 |
| ttx | eglynn_: or we can discuss them quickly today after the tag | 06:29 |
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| eglynn_ | ttx: cool, that latter option would be good, as I'll be off-grid for much of tmrw | 06:30 |
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| skullone | hrm interesting, neutron just keeps appending to the openvswitch.conf file, its over 150,000 lines long now | 06:35 |
| skullone | :o | 06:35 |
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| yogarajah | hello | 06:48 |
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| yogarajah | uhhh sweet puzzy | 06:59 |
| nunizacu | i also thought that this channel would be busy | 06:59 |
| yogarajah | can i get busy with your puzzy? | 06:59 |
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| yogarajah | i know its p.u.s.s.y | 07:01 |
| nunizacu | so you should also know what my ansawer meant | 07:01 |
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| yogarajah | so ur human with cock? | 07:02 |
| nunizacu | i didnt sleep from yesterday, im not in a mood for that bro | 07:02 |
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| nunizacu | btw. i would weake up very early if i had a cook | 07:03 |
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| nunizacu | so what are you doing here? | 07:04 |
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| nunizacu | its not openfukk | 07:04 |
| yogarajah | can i fuck your asshole? | 07:04 |
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| nunizacu | man, i strogly advise you ever think about that | 07:05 |
| yogarajah | ur good | 07:05 |
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| dasm | nunizacu: ignore it. | 07:05 |
| ByteSore | drunk much | 07:05 |
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| nunizacu | ya, some work with heads not cooks | 07:07 |
| dasm | nunizacu: your choice :) | 07:07 |
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| nunizacu | dasm: im loong time on irc, im not really impressed | 07:07 |
| yogarajah | hehehehe | 07:07 |
| nunizacu | dasm: whatever he talks, i dont care | 07:07 |
| dasm | xD | 07:07 |
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| nunizacu | dasm: knock my door and you will have face reconstruction | 07:08 |
| nunizacu | simple as that | 07:08 |
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| jschwarz | ttx, morning | 07:48 |
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| jschwarz | ttx, regarding https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1361545 - you changed the milestone to RC1 but a fix was commited just a few minutes ago, so I think it should be changed back to juno-3 :) | 07:49 |
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| ttx | jschwarz: ok, will change it | 07:53 |
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| ttx | jschwarz: that was the risk with preemptively moving :) | 07:53 |
| ttx | thx for the heads-up | 07:53 |
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| jschwarz | ttx, I understand ;-) it was on the gate for a week and kept hitting non-deterministic failures but finally passed through this morning | 07:54 |
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| jschwarz | ttx, have a nice day :) | 07:54 |
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| geirT | Hi, anyone here having experienced tap-devices tagged with vlan=4095 and have some input/ideas of how this can be solved? | 09:26 |
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| foexle | hey guys, just a short question. LBaaS VIP with muliple ports is that possible ? how i can balance http AND https with one vip? | 10:01 |
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| avicii | Hi, quick question: How tricky or hard is it to change the IP address of the controller node (the horizon dashboard and api's) ? | 11:30 |
| avicii | Is it doable ? | 11:30 |
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| sijo_ | Hi there, I'm an openstack newbie, I'm installing openstack icehouse in ubuntu 12.04 vms on VMware VMs. So how can i set up external netwrok | 11:35 |
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| boichev | I'm using neutron for my networking in icehouse, can someone see this and tell me how to debug why the VMs does not get any ips http://pastebin.com/UAvY1c9m | 13:06 |
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| KodiakF2 | boichev: that's not nearly enough information to go on. | 13:10 |
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| KodiakF2 | boichev: maybe read through this start to finish: http://blog.oddbit.com/2013/11/14/quantum-in-too-much-detail/ - then start watching your VM attempting to get a lease via tcpdump at various points in the transit from VM port to Neutron DHCP server | 13:11 |
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| boichev | KodiakF2 thanks. diving into it :) | 13:12 |
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| jdandrea | Has anyone ever encountered problems spinning up, say, 12 cinder volumes and 12 VMs with network attachments "very quickly" using Heat (or perhaps a shell script)? That is, has "speed of deployment" ever tripped things up for anyone? | 13:21 |
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| JayJ_ | I'm trying to import a VMDK data volume into Cinder volume at create time. Ceph is cinder backend. Is there a way I can do this without uploading the data image into glance then creating a cinder volume using glance as source? | 13:48 |
| shailendersingh | how elasticity is achieved in openstack,(If i am using Vshpere prouduct including ESxi, then how API will plug more resources according to spike in ram usage) | 13:49 |
| larsks | shailendersingh: you can do that via Heat autoscaling groups: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/AutoScaling | 13:50 |
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| shailendersingh | let me read, thanks Larsks | 13:50 |
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| larsks | jdandrea: in pre-icehouse versions of neutron, "speed of deployment" could cause problems because there were race conditions between neutron creating ports and nova consuming them. | 13:51 |
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| larsks | In icehouse and later this is a notification mechanism in place between neutron and nova, but that must be correctly configured. | 13:51 |
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| jdandrea | larsks: Hmm. Perhaps it isn't correctly configured in our case. Installation instructions were followed to the letter, but you never know. Is there a particular Icehouse doc that discusses that particular configuration? | 13:53 |
| larsks | jdandrea: I don't know that there is good documentation. The blue print for neutron (with links to the nova blueprint) is: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/nova-event-callback | 13:53 |
| jdandrea | I'm wondering about cinder volumes in particular, but perhaps the ports are related. | 13:54 |
| jdandrea | larsks: Thanks! | 13:54 |
| larsks | Also see line 297 and following of http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/config-reference/content/section_neutron.conf.html | 13:54 |
| larsks | I'm not familiar enough with cinder to help out there. | 13:54 |
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| boichev | KodiakF2 my "ovs-ofctl dump-flows br-tun" show only actions=resubmit(,1) where 1 is different for the different rows... and in the link you gave me actions=<SOMETHING>,NORMAL | 14:02 |
| boichev | KodiakF2 is this ok ? | 14:02 |
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| KodiakF2 | boichev: probably you want to utilize paste.openstack.org here, also I'm hardly an expert on flows but many others here might be able to help | 14:06 |
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| boichev | KodiakF2 I have the rule that tags the frames with vlan id ( actions=mod_vlan_vid:1,output:1) but the other two rules (actions=mod_vlan_vid:1,NORMAL) and (actions=set_tunnel:0x2,NORMAL) are (actions=mod_vlan_vid:1,resubmit(,10)) and (actions=resubmit(,1)) http://pastebin.com/VzCR8jPS | 14:06 |
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| geaaru | hi, how can i force use of internal url from command line glance api ? | 15:14 |
| geaaru | thanks in advance | 15:14 |
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| larsks | geaaru: running 'glance --help' suggests that there is a --os-endpoint-type option, so in theory '--os-endpoint-type internal' is what you are looking for. | 15:23 |
| larsks | You can also pass a url explicitly to --os-image-url. | 15:23 |
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| cocoa117 | is there commerical support for hosting provider to use openstack? | 16:13 |
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| m01 | cocoa117: might be worth taking a look at rackspace (and their private cloud?) | 16:15 |
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| cocoa117 | m01, from their site, they are hosting company rather then software focused I think? | 16:16 |
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| m01 | cocoa117: yes, but they do have support for rackspace private cloud (http://www.rackspace.com/cloud/private/support/) which is based on openstack. I have no idea what that's like of course. | 16:17 |
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| m01 | cocoa117: just wanted to suggest that as a starting point. The other thing is you could look at the RedHat OpenStack Platform, Cisco OpenStack installer, and various other OpenStack distributions | 16:18 |
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| cocoa117 | m01, thanks, yes, redhat or cisco sound more like pure software company providing support for us | 16:20 |
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| m01 | cocoa117: there are quite a few companies doing something in that space, mirantis is another one | 16:21 |
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| cocoa117 | m01, yes, mirantis looks more promissing from their page | 16:24 |
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| dtrainor | I think I already know the answer to this, as "yes", but just to get some clarification, when using a Nova "flat" configuration and an instance is assigned an IP from a pool, is it assumed that this pool already has such goodies as a gateway set up independently of openstack? | 16:29 |
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| KodiakF2 | cocoa117: From looking at both RackSpace and Mirantis recently - both provide similar services. If you're a Redhat shop you won't really find mainstream support from Rackspace they are only running their product on Ubuntu. Mirantis offers both platforms. Both have really good engineers who lurk on #openstack as well | 16:33 |
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| jidar | WHERE ARE YOU | 16:34 |
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| KodiakF2 | you'll see I'm a nobody run of the mill consumer who's just had good interactions with both... | 16:35 |
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| jidar | oh I'm kidding :P | 16:35 |
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| cocoa117 | KodiakF2, i see, yes we mainly use centos and rhel boxes | 16:36 |
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| KodiakF2 | I've even ratcheted down my zealotry over Mirantis Fuel a bit - I still love it but there are comparables from other companies | 16:36 |
| ashp | cocoa117: You could look at metacloud also, they (I can say "we" on monday when I start there) do fully managed clouds on your own hardware | 16:36 |
| KodiakF2 | cocoa117: Mirantis Fuel deploys CentOS 6.5 nodes so you'd be in good shape | 16:37 |
| ashp | cocoa117: They'll help you get it all up and running, then fully manage it ongoing from there | 16:37 |
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| cocoa117 | ashp, i have lok metacloud web site now | 16:37 |
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| tzn | cocoa117: if you need any assistance regarding Mirantis ping me | 16:41 |
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| cocoa117 | tzn, looking at Mirantis | 16:43 |
| KodiakF2 | and out come the vendors lol | 16:43 |
| KodiakF2 | they are really a great bunch though - from all the companies | 16:43 |
| skullone | man, im having a hell of a time getting neutron and ovs to play well... somehow, OVS is stuck in a loop bring up an down its bridge int interfac | 16:44 |
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| jidar | I've seen that happen when I was doing some initial deploys with foreman | 16:45 |
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| jidar | I think it got worked out when we moved to 1.6 and the new rhel osp stuff | 16:45 |
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| jidar | don't know much about the specifics though, sorry | 16:45 |
| skullone | yah, this is so odd, i had this working a while back with packstack, but im rolling it myself now using newer stuff | 16:46 |
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| KodiakF2 | Packstack may have some magic glue that the RDO packages on their own don't have - that's only an unfounded, unproven speculation though - we've observed neutron needing additional setup steps on the outset when using RDO packages w/o packstack | 16:48 |
| skullone | and new entries keep getting appended to the openvswitch conf file | 16:48 |
| skullone | its like 5MB now, haha | 16:48 |
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| f00f | heyy guys | 16:49 |
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| f00f | anyone here using hybrid auth for openstack by SuSe ? | 16:50 |
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| f00f | Anyways my question is how do i create roles and tenants with the same id's ? | 16:50 |
| f00f | Or does that not matter ? | 16:50 |
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| skullone | jidar: how do you like the redhat OSP stuff? are you using the paid for rhel channels? | 16:55 |
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| KodiakF2 | +1 | 16:56 |
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| jidar | it basically solved all of the stuff we were using staypuft for | 16:57 |
| jidar | iirc | 16:57 |
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| KodiakF2 | wait - is staypuft powering RHOS now? | 16:57 |
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| jidar | we still had to do a number of things around getting in house repos setup for epel, etc. | 16:57 |
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| jidar | https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux_OpenStack_Platform/5/html/Installer_and_Foreman_Guide/index.html | 16:57 |
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| KodiakF2 | so this: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux_OpenStack_Platform/5/html/Installer_and_Foreman_Guide/images/6084.png | 16:59 |
| KodiakF2 | is staypuft in paid-product form? | 16:59 |
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| jidar | well that's just foreman | 16:59 |
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| jidar | with rh branding | 17:00 |
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| jidar | you do know you can just do the openstack-foreman-installer without staypuft/astapor right? | 17:00 |
| KodiakF2 | haven't played with any of it | 17:01 |
| KodiakF2 | saw a staypuft slide deck about 1 week short of completing ostack cluster v1 | 17:01 |
| KodiakF2 | didn't look like an actual product yet | 17:01 |
| Veers | KodiakF2: having recently rolled red hat's foreman 1.6 out I'm pretty pleased with it so far.. unsure if thats staypuft (it may be?) but it seems to work so far | 17:01 |
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| jidar | http://pastie.org/9527355 | 17:01 |
| jidar | that's how you get openstack-foreman running on a cent 6.5 box | 17:02 |
| KodiakF2 | Veers: thanks for the feedback - we use Foreman as a simple Puppet dashboard in the enterprise w/o any build bells and whistles - we'll have to look into it | 17:02 |
| KodiakF2 | jidar: well that's succinct lol | 17:02 |
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| Veers | one thing I noticed is I find it behaves better if you build your nodes/setup all your networking first before trying to feed them to your openstack installer | 17:02 |
| jidar | those reconfiguring out of puppet isn't the best, somehow | 17:03 |
| jidar | I think it doesn't take into account all of the metadata/db calls that need to be run | 17:03 |
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| skullone | lots of the automation tasks arent difficult by themselves, to install/configure the OS, openstack, etc | 17:05 |
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| skullone | GUI driven is nice, but that in itself has some complexity | 17:05 |
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| snowgust | has anyone experienced problems migrating instances from kvm? | 17:12 |
| snowgust | I'm receiving an error from libvirt... on its logs it says "warning : qemuMigrationCancelDriveMirror:1421 : Unable to stop block job on drive-virtio-disk0" | 17:13 |
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| kosa | so quite here | 17:17 |
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| kosa | anyone here has experience with scaling Openstack to multiple regions? | 17:18 |
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| Lee23 | No but im tasked with producing a case study on the topic for the employer so +1 to that question :) | 17:26 |
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| cfelix | Hey guys, can someone give a quick explanation about ML2 and Neutron plugins? | 17:41 |
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| KodiakF2 | cfelix - there's no such thing as a quick explanation of ML2 and neutron | 17:41 |
| dsneddon | cfelix, I can answer specific questions | 17:42 |
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| cfelix | dsneddon: If I were to add a method call to the Neutron API were should I start? | 17:42 |
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| cfelix | dsneddon: I mean, the Nova API is pretty straight foward, but when I started reading the Neutron code there is a base class and a bunch of plugins, I'm kinda lost. | 17:44 |
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| dsneddon | cfelix, Yeah, it is confusing. I think the best thing to do would be to find a similar method and figure out whether it's implemented in the neutron core API or in a plugin, then use the same approach. | 17:45 |
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| cfelix | dsneddon: Do you know if there is a default plugin used by de core or all the plugins are just extensions? | 17:49 |
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| dsneddon | cfelix, The basic breakdown is this: tenant networks, floating IPs, DHCP, and l3 routing is all implemented in Neutron core. The type of network (VLAN, GRE, VXLAN, etc.) is implemented in plugins. There are vendor plugins and ML2. ML2 has two kinds of drivers. The type drivers handle VXLAN, VLAN, GRE implementations. The mechanism drivers handle ports for the VMs, using either Linux bridges or Open vSwitch. | 17:50 |
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| cfelix | dsneddon: Thanks. | 17:52 |
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| kosa | cfellix what kind of feature you are implementing? | 17:54 |
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| cfelix | kosa: It's related with, bandwidth, I'm not the network expert of the project, but I'm the python guy, so | 17:55 |
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| dsneddon | cfelix, By bandwidth, do you mean quality of service? Rate limiting per VM? | 17:56 |
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| cfelix | dsneddon: Rate limiting. | 17:56 |
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| dsneddon | cfelix, You will need to implement that in at least two places. There will need to be an API call to set the bandwidth for an instance (or for all instances on a given tenant network). That will get stored in the Neutron DB somewhere. Then, the mechanism driver (part of ML2) will need to reference that when ports are instantiated so that the specific settings can be put in place on the bridge or OVS port. | 17:59 |
| egon_ | cfelix: how would this rate limiting differ from RXTX_Factor? | 17:59 |
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| Sharath_ | can anyone please share the control flow (Source code) and state diagram of keystone and nova ? | 17:59 |
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| Sharath_ | am new to openstack and need to understand openstack components , please help me | 18:00 |
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| dsneddon | Sharath_, Check out this: http://docs.openstack.org/arch-design/content/introduction.html | 18:01 |
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| cfelix | dsneddon: the DB step is done, I can get/list just fine, my friend is helping with the bandwidth, now I need to make update/create work, thanks again. | 18:03 |
| Sharath_ | Thank you dsbeddon, now i have downloaded Nova code , can you please tell me the control flow in code level - any of generic flow | 18:04 |
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| Sharath_ | may i know which db they use in Nova DB ? is mysql or sqlite ? | 18:04 |
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| dsneddon | Sharath_, The DB used is defined in the nova.conf and keystone.conf. It could be SQLite or MySQL (or even a different SQL). SQLAlchemy is used for abstraction. | 18:05 |
| cfelix | egon_: I'm just taking care of the Horizon + NeutronClient + Neutron side of things, my colleague is taking care of the actual network implementations. | 18:05 |
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| Sharath_ | Thank you dsneddon , can you please tell me the control flow of nova ? | 18:07 |
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| dsneddon | Sharath_, I'm trying to think if I've ever seen that documented. It's a ReST application, so the control is done with create/retrieve/update/delete that is done using PUT/GET/POST/DELETE operations in HTTP. Various components interact with the Nova DB, but write operations are always handled through the Nova API, afaik. | 18:11 |
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| dsneddon | Sharath_, actually, that's not true, I just remembered that there are write operations to the DB outside Nova API. | 18:12 |
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| cfelix | egon: I just read about RXTX_Factor, thanks for metioning it, I'll pass this info to my colleague. | 18:13 |
| dsneddon | Sharath_, It's a fairly complex control flow for Nova. Less so for Keystone, which has fewer operations. I don't know if I've ever seen a control flow diagram for either. | 18:13 |
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| Sharath_ | dsneddon but in archtecture diagram they showed two kind of DBs LDAP and DB , when ldap and when DB will be used ? | 18:14 |
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| dsneddon | Sharath_, Those are mutually exclusive. Usually DB is used, but some environments have an existing LDAP provider for user accounts, and that can be used instead. Again, keystone.conf has a setting for one or the other. | 18:15 |
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| Sharath_ | yeah dsneddon , the problem am facing is , from where control is starting and how it is navigating across different packages , how it starting services , these things wanted know dsneddon , because it helps me to write and run small test cases and check the flow | 18:17 |
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| Sharath_ | how to know that dsneddon ? | 18:26 |
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| dsneddon | Sharath_, I don't know of a good source for that. What I did when I was learning was to read over the source code and familiarize myself with the methods in Nova and Keystone. | 18:28 |
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| Sharath_ | ok Dan Sneddon , Thank you | 18:29 |
| dsneddon | Sharath_, It also helped to learn what all the configuration parameters did in nova.conf and keystone.conf, along with the api-paste.ini files. | 18:29 |
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| Sharath_ | Sure Thanks a lot Dan Sneddon | 18:30 |
| dsneddon | Sharath_, I also used pdb to add breakpoints in the Nova python client files, then stepped through to see how things were done. | 18:31 |
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| Sharath_ | sure Dan Sneddon, i will also follow same , small favor form you , if have any doubt can i ping you in private chat here ? | 18:32 |
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| dsneddon | Sharath_, Sure, I'm on IRC most of the day | 18:35 |
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| kallisti5 | is there any way to adjust the hypervisor devices in openstack? for example i want to disable the virtio network device for some images | 19:13 |
| folex | Hi all. Sorry for possible offtop. | 19:13 |
| folex | Does anyone know some alternatives to Amazon DynamoDB and Google Cloud Datastore? The first one is a disaster, and the second one isn't "Generally Available" (iow in beta). | 19:13 |
| folex | Or maybe there is some irc room where I could ask this question? Unable to google something cloud-related except #openstack. | 19:13 |
| folex | Thanks in advance. | 19:13 |
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| georgem2 | folex:https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MagnetoDB | 19:18 |
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| folex | georgem2: Thanks. | 19:19 |
| folex | But is there some PaaS solution? | 19:19 |
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| davidfetter_ebay | which FM should i be R'ing to find out how to script creation of VMs? | 19:57 |
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| salv-orlando | smoser: helllo sir. I’m still looking at nova/neutron bug 1349617. Is that correct that cirros relies on datasources (configdrive, ec2 metadata) for configuration rather than cloudinit? | 20:24 |
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| smoser | cirros uses cirros-init. | 20:25 |
| smoser | which is like cloud-init | 20:25 |
| smoser | but in shell not python | 20:25 |
| smoser | no python in cirros | 20:25 |
| smoser | it will rad config drive or ec2 or NoCloud datasources | 20:25 |
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| |splat| | hey guys, i’ve got a VM stuck in Paused power state. unpause, stop, reset-state —active aren’t helping. is there some other way to recover this VM? | 20:54 |
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| salv-orlando | thanks a lot for the info smoser! | 21:02 |
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| salv-orlando | melwitt: hi there. I am looking at what happened on the cirros instance where connection via ssh key fails. | 21:09 |
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| salv-orlando | smoser: are you still around? I have another little query... | 21:16 |
| smoser | here | 21:16 |
| salv-orlando | melwitt: ^^ for bug 1349617 | 21:16 |
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| smoser | you want to trade ? | 21:16 |
| salv-orlando | basically cirros-per with frequency instance | 21:16 |
| salv-orlando | does it mean it is run only once per instance? | 21:17 |
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| melwitt | salv-orlando: hi! I was hoping in the cloud-init.log there would be some detail about why/how it failed to query the metadata | 21:19 |
| salv-orlando | smoser: sorry what do you mean by “trade”? do you have any query for me as well? | 21:19 |
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| salv-orlando | melwitt: if you check this room’s log cirros does not use cloud-init. It uses cirros-init which is shell based | 21:19 |
| salv-orlando | I don’t think there is a log for that. But I found out the ssh key is in the cirros ‘datasource’, which means everything went fine on the openstack side | 21:20 |
| salv-orlando | but the key then is not copied in /.ssh/authorized_keys | 21:20 |
| salv-orlando | so I have a theory that I need to confirm | 21:20 |
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| salv-orlando | melwitt: in the tests that fail we do first boot a server, and tear stop or suspend it as soon as it gets active. | 21:21 |
| salv-orlando | This might mean this operation is done in the middle of cirros-init | 21:21 |
| salv-orlando | since cirros-init executes this operation with an ‘instance’ frequency (see /bin/cirros-per) | 21:21 |
| salv-orlando | this might mean at the next reboot the cirros-init operation is not completed | 21:21 |
| salv-orlando | and the key never appended to authorized_keys | 21:22 |
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| salv-orlando | it seems so trivial that it probably isn’t true | 21:22 |
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| smoser | salv-orlando, yeah, i did have a query. | 21:23 |
| smoser | whoever i was talking to the other day. | 21:23 |
| smoser | i think imight have a mtu respecting cirros for you to test. | 21:24 |
| salv-orlando | smoser: oh great. | 21:24 |
| smoser | and wrt cirros-per | 21:24 |
| smoser | cirros-per [ options ] frequency name cmd [args] | 21:24 |
| melwitt | salv-orlando: wow interesting. okay, I wasn't sure about that whether it runs cloud-init. the release notes confused me. thanks | 21:24 |
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| smoser | cirros-per instance <name> commdn args | 21:24 |
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| smoser | it uses 'name' as a marker to provide 'per instance' | 21:24 |
| smoser | you have to supply name | 21:25 |
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| smoser | do you have a log of this ? | 21:31 |
| smoser | console logs ? | 21:32 |
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| melwitt | smoser: we have this http://logs.openstack.org/38/115938/6/check/check-tempest-dsvm-neutron-pg-full-2/8833a83/console.html.gz#_2014-08-28_18_39_34_179 | 21:35 |
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| smoser | melwitt, well, it says it found data in ec2 datasource. | 21:38 |
| smoser | network. | 21:38 |
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| melwitt | smoser: yeah, salv-orlando said earlier "I found out the ssh key is in the cirros ‘datasource’, which means everything went fine on the openstack side | 21:43 |
| melwitt | but the key then is not copied in /.ssh/authorized_keys" | 21:43 |
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| smoser | yeah, but i i dont know that i trust that. | 21:43 |
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| smoser | the path for ssh/authorized_keys should probably /home/cirros/.ssh/authorized_keys at least. | 21:44 |
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| melwitt | oh, I see | 21:44 |
| smoser | so what happens in this test ? | 21:44 |
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| smoser | you start something and then kill it and then start it again ? | 21:44 |
| melwitt | I was re-checking that too. this test in particular is the one I have seen the failure happen in and it doesn't appear to do that https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/tempest/scenario/test_volume_boot_pattern.py#L141 | 21:45 |
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| salv-orlando | smoser, melwitt sorry I had to go afk to bring the trash out | 21:45 |
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| salv-orlando | smoser, melwitt: console log from instance where ssh key processing failed -> http://paste.openstack.org/show/106049/ | 21:49 |
| salv-orlando | I initially focused on:”no userdata for datasource” | 21:49 |
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| salv-orlando | but then melwitt verified that message has not bearing on whether the ssh public key is present/processed or not | 21:49 |
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| alop | https://docs.google.com/forms/d/10GkCXr3ovHH2WvMiPbnHPCZIvVzPa4i5h_tgsyt_5Y4/viewform?usp=send_form | 21:51 |
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| smoser | right. | 21:53 |
| melwitt | salv-orlando: what about /home/cirros/.ssh/authorized_keys anything there? since login is by cirros user | 21:54 |
| salv-orlando | there is no authorized_keys file. ssh login by key fails. succeeds with password, obviously | 21:55 |
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| salv-orlando | melwitt, smoser can we chat in #openstack-qa? so the folks might read the converdation? | 21:55 |
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| melwitt | okay | 21:55 |
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| skullone | ohhh boy | 22:58 |
| skullone | Due to a packaging bug, the Open vSwitch agent initialization script explicitly looks for the Open vSwitch plug-in configuration file rather than a symbolic link /etc/neutron/plugin.ini pointing to the ML2 plug-in configuration file. | 22:58 |
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| skullone | now why didnt i see that earlier? | 22:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | skullone: were we talking about weird neutron issues recently? | 22:59 |
| skullone | briefly | 22:59 |
| skullone | but that solved my issue | 22:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | like, a bunch of stuff wasnt working? | 22:59 |
| skullone | yah | 23:00 |
| skullone | neutron was creating thousands of ovs switches | 23:00 |
| skullone | bridges* | 23:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | i was like "ohhh, i bet he forgot to fix the init script..." | 23:00 |
| skullone | so i skimmed every single page of docs, and noticed that little blurb :p | 23:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | but couldnt remember who i was talking to | 23:00 |
| skullone | that bug should probably be fixed, and not an errata note at the bottum of a doc page ;) | 23:01 |
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| skullone | haha | 23:01 |
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| Sam-I-Am | skullone: i opened a bug on bugzilla a loooooong time ago | 23:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think i saw someone remove that note from the trunk/juno guide, so maybe its fixed | 23:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | rdo bug triage/fixing is so terrible | 23:02 |
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| skullone | shrug | 23:02 |
| skullone | i blame error messages actually | 23:02 |
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| skullone | none lead me anywhere useful | 23:02 |
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| Sam-I-Am | neutron and most openstack things have issues with error catching and reporting | 23:03 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sometimes things look like they're working, but they're not | 23:03 |
| skullone | ive run into far worse bugs on vmware, though | 23:04 |
| skullone | like NFS volume corruption bugs, that was fun | 23:04 |
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| skullone | actually several of those NFS corruption bugs :p | 23:04 |
| skullone | another one happened in 5.5 apparently | 23:05 |
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| jidar | KodiakF2: staypuft is GA now in the rhel-osp-foreman repo's: enable the rhel-osp-foreman repo & voila RHELOSP5 | 23:15 |
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| jidar | KodiakF2: to answer your question from earlier, I just confirmed with a colleague | 23:16 |
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| skullone | are rhel's OSP repos open to anyone? | 23:34 |
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| nikhan | we are using rdo for rhel openstack install. https://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/openstack/openstack-icehouse/ | 23:50 |
| skullone | i use RDO currently as well | 23:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | thats about it | 23:51 |
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