Friday, 2014-09-12

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nikhanwhen using neutron for networking should the networks still appear in nova net-list as well? they appear in neutron net-list fine00:16
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larsksnikhan: Yes, they should also appear in nova net-list.00:24
larsksnikhan: E.g., http://chunk.io/f/4e5765be071047849a7efa0837ceb37600:24
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nikhanheh that explains why i can boot a network00:26
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nikhanit isnt duplicating to the nova list from when i create it with neutron00:26
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mgrandii submitted a bugfix to 'sqlalchemy-migrate' but apparently i have to do a code review, i'm not ever going to use this code review thing  so can someone do it for me? pull request: https://github.com/stackforge/sqlalchemy-migrate/pull/501:56
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droyoI'm having an interesting problem; when I restart quantum-openvswitch-agent, I lose all patch ports, and they are not recreated until I reboot the compute node02:30
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Sam-I-Amquantum?02:33
droyoyes, this is the grizzly release02:34
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Sam-I-Amis this a new install or a new problem?02:38
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droyoThis installation has been around for about 10 months. I've only noticed this problem in the past two02:42
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droyoi'm trying to look for changes in our configuration that could cause it but nothing really jumps out at me02:42
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Sam-I-Amsounds like the agent isnt querying the db?02:43
Sam-I-Amwhich it would normally do to build the networks/ports02:43
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Sam-I-Amnot sure why rebooting makes a difference though02:43
Sam-I-Amprobably a bug thats been long since fixed02:44
droyoyea, I wonder if rebooting clears out the ovsdb02:44
Sam-I-Amthe ovsdb should be static02:45
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Sam-I-Ambut it would restart ovs02:45
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nikhanfound my problem... i misinterpreted documentation in the install guide03:31
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nikhanon this page http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/install-guide/install/yum/content/neutron-ml2-controller-node.html03:31
nikhanthis title To configure Compute to use Networking03:32
Sam-I-Amheh oops03:32
nikhani wrote the commands for that into an ansible playbook for my compute nodes03:32
nikhanas interpreting that title literally not taking the controller thing into account would lead you to do that -_-03:32
nikhanat that stage i was a fair way into writing ansible config as well03:33
nikhanon the bright side, i have about 4 bugs left to fix and we have an ansible playbook to deploy openstack03:33
nikhanoutside of the rbd / ceph stuff03:33
nikhanwhich i still need to work in some how03:33
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Sam-I-Amprogress03:34
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skullonehrm, i seem to be having an issue where nova-api or neutron doesn't seem to be adding the metadata DNAT rule to iptables anymore03:42
skullonehas anyone come across this?03:43
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Sam-I-Amnope, but doesnt mean it cant happen03:45
Sam-I-Amanything in the logs?03:45
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skulloneeven with debug, nothing noteworthy at all03:47
Sam-I-Amrestarting anything?03:48
Sam-I-Amhow did you get to this situation?03:48
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skulloneyah, been rebooting hosts trying different settings03:48
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skullonewell, ive hit this situation each time i try to use provider network vlans,03:48
skulloneif i use GRE, i dont have this issue03:48
droyohave you ever got it to work with vlan provider?03:49
skulloneif i manually add the DNAT rule pointing to the controller, it works03:49
skullonebut im hoping to have it managed automatically03:50
droyoi am using vlan provider with metadata without this issue03:50
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skullonehow did you deploy? packstack?03:50
droyono, I'm using RDO.03:51
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skullonea manual install with RDO?03:51
droyoyes, managed with puppet03:51
droyowhat DNAT rule are you referring to?03:52
skulloneto redirect port 80 to port 877503:52
skullonefor the 169.254.169.254 destination03:52
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droyoI can't see that rule in my iptables (i know it has to get translated somewhere, but i don't see it)03:54
droyoin `iptables -t nat -L -n` ?03:54
skulloneyah03:54
skullonedo you use namespaces?03:54
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droyoyes03:54
skulloneah, you might have the metadata proxy then, on port 969703:55
droyoyes, that's exactly right03:55
skulloneive tried getting that to work, too  ;)03:55
droyoi didn't think it was possible to use provider vlans without metadata proxy03:55
droyotho i guess there's no reason you can't do it with iptables03:55
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droyoi had to go through a bit of trouble to be able to push the correct routes to the instances via dhcp to use the proxy03:56
droyoespecially for rhel 503:56
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skullonewould you mind posting any of your configs?03:58
skullonei must be missing something at some level03:58
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droyosure, give me a sec03:59
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skulloneneutron is really the only thing ive struggled with04:04
droyohere's dhcp_agent.ini: https://gist.github.com/droyo/fed942213ee020308b0604:05
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droyoand metadata_agent.ini: https://gist.github.com/droyo/888e77b93f9bc0af5cf604:06
droyothis is for grizzly, so you need to change names for newer releases04:06
droyoeach instance needs to have a static route for 169.254.169.254, using the metadata proxy server as the gateway04:07
skullonedo you run metadata proxy on each compute node?04:07
droyono, it runs on two dedicated 'network' nodes04:08
droyothese nodes were going to be used for layer-3 networking, but now they're just glorified dhcp servers04:09
droyoyou could just as well run them on the controllers04:09
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droyoi push the static routes using the --host-route option to subnet-create.04:10
skullonedid you build your own puppet manifests to stand it all up?04:11
droyoyes04:11
skullonenice04:11
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droyonot really; i should have made the popular ones work04:11
droyobut i sort of inherited them04:12
skulloneheh, but then youd have to track those upstream ones, and deal with issues they introduce04:12
skulloneat least thats been my experience with puppet forge04:12
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droyosorry, my statement about the --host-route was a little incorrect04:13
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droyoopenstack pushes the static route for the metadata proxy for you, you don't have to specify04:14
droyobut it will only do this if your subnet doesn't have a gateway04:14
droyoso I had to omit the gateway and push a static route for 0.0.0.004:14
droyothis was on grizzly, it may have changed since then04:14
skulloneyah, it sounds like in later releases, you dont need to do it that way now04:15
droyoexcellent04:15
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droyoi'll add that to my list of reasons to upgrade :)04:15
skullonedo you use GRE tenant networks at all?04:15
droyono, all vlan04:15
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skullonethats how i want to go, this will be for internal users, not any type of public cloud04:16
droyowe're not prepared (socially) to allow for on-demand network provisioning04:16
droyoyea, this is a private cloud04:16
skulloneand we already have tons of existing network infrastructure04:16
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skulloneyah, having on-demand networks, with floating IP/NAT wouldnt really work for us04:17
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droyoyea, to start we just want to treat our VMs like smaller physical servers that are easier to provision/destroy04:18
droyomaybe down the line we will get more advanced04:18
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skullonei dunno, that stuff is interesting for a fully public stuff where network isolation is a requirement04:19
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skullonewe have good isolation already, with dev/qa/prod networks04:20
droyosame here04:20
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skullonei had some ghetto openstack testing on centos6 and packstack, but i didnt feel very comfortable with all the 'magic' it did04:21
droyobut i keep an open mind. there may be a point where we provide infra. for a "dev" team that's not part of the company04:21
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skulloneim rolling this environment on new hardware, centos 7, icehouse04:22
droyoglorious04:22
droyonot scared of going with centos 7?04:22
droyoit's only been what, 3 months?04:22
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skulloneim not as familiar with it04:32
skullonebut for base system stuff, it was just minor puppet changes to get going04:32
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skullonedo you run the l3 agent even in provider mode?04:44
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yasu_I faced UnicodeEncodeError message. Anyone can know this log reason? http://paste.openstack.org/show/110440/05:22
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vtzanhello guys, I have added an EMC cinder backend driver and created volumes successfully. How can i use this storage as block storage and create VMs on that device? currently only local LVM is exposed.07:55
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yasu_Hello guys, I'd like to debug the interface between openstack and vmware. but both are communicate with each other with HTTPS. How do I change it to HTTP without ssl?08:31
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nikhanheh i am stumped. i see dhcp requests to my server on another network but when i manually assign an address to the cirros vm i cant even ping the gateway of the network i am on08:32
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geaaruhi, if I have different vlan port range on same physical interface on network_vlan_ranges field could be repeat same physical iface name ? Ex. physnet1:100:200,physnet1:10:20,physnet1 (last is flat) . Is correct ? thanks in avance08:59
geaaru*advance08:59
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tejuhi all... ironic deploy failed....logs : http://pastebin.com/uQCMMa8S09:18
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ABarotHi All10:17
ABarotwhat is the minimum Hardware requireement to install icehouse?10:17
ABarotI am planning to use Ubuntu 14.04 OS10:17
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tejui see "failed to detect root device UUID " in ironic conductor logs....how to fix this?10:19
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tejuhow to build images for ironic bare metal deployment?11:05
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verdurinMy quota_usages keeps losing track of what's actually running, so the usage figures are all wrong11:53
verdurinIs there a way of forcing Nova to recalculate the usage?11:53
tty57Hi, according to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/HypervisorSupportMatrix/DeprecationPlan, LXC and Docker will be dropped from OpenStack soon, is this information correct?11:53
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Adinahello, there are a lot of wadl files on openstack, but these are invalid. There is someone who used these files?11:57
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bluex-plhello12:53
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bluex-plwhat is the most effective way to install openstack from trunk?12:55
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Sam-I-Ambluex-pl: git?12:56
Sam-I-Amplus a lot of magic to make it work12:56
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nagyzis there a way to have one network BOTH to start VMs on and to use it as a floating IP pool?12:58
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frayzbluex-pl: devstack?12:59
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bluex-plsadly no, at least one controller and one compute node on separate machines13:00
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Sam-I-Ambluex-pl: you have to take care of dependencies outside of python (pip should get those) and init scripts13:02
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bluex-plSam-I-Am: I was hoping there is sth like puppet manifest for that13:05
bluex-plbut can't find anything that would use trunk rather than stable branch13:07
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Sam-I-Amany reason to use trunk?13:07
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Sam-I-Amyou can probably change the git stuff to reference trunk13:07
Sam-I-Amand fix whatever breaks after that13:07
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bluex-plyup, testing new feature - metadata13:11
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bluex-plI'll try to do it as you suggest, it's still better than doing it all manually13:13
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fricklerwhat about http://devstack.org/guides/multinode-lab.html?13:14
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Sam-I-Amubuntu has some milestone 2 packages out13:16
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Sam-I-Ambut they're not trunk13:16
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bluex-plgood idea with multi-node devstack, somehow I overlooked that it can be configured that way13:21
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Sam-I-Amits not permanent, but enough to test something13:23
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gnHi, how to fix: Failed to connect to server (code: 1006) ? Controller and 2x hypervisor13:38
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geaaruhi, if i want permit communication between two subnet without a gateway through a router how can i do that ?13:45
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Sam-I-Amyou can't13:46
inc0hello, does nova perform host fencing after evacuate? If I'd like to evacuate vm using shared storage from failed host, does nova have any failsafe to disable old vm?13:46
geaaruSam-I-Am: thanks for reply. mmm... so , however it is needed insert also a fake gateway ip to permit communication between two subnet?13:49
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Sam-I-Amgeaaru: you can add static routes, but some host needs to know how to get to the next network13:50
Sam-I-Amso it essentially serves as a router13:50
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geaaruSam-I-Am: yes, I can add a static route but neutron client doesn't permit to add an interface to a router relative to a subnet without a gateway, so probably also with static route is always needed add a fake gateway ip13:54
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Sam-I-Ami guess. i dont really know what you're trying to accomplish here.13:54
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verdurinAnyone know how to force Nova to recalculate tenant usage, when the figures are wrong?13:56
geaaruSam-I-Am: I have a secondary management subnet that must be used by vm but not directly and I want permit communication of clients of this "external network" versus vm through a router. In this scenario gateway ip aren't needed.13:57
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Sam-I-Amsounds overly complicated14:02
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Sam-I-Amwhy not just attach the management network to a second virtual nic on each vm?14:02
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geaaruSam-I-Am: To avoid multiple nic allocations and permit to manage network routing without activity on vm. And also to understand capability of openstack framework to work with multi-tier environments :) . Thank you very much for your time and support.14:07
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kodiak11what does swift-init want for a server?  I was hoping I could just run swift-init shutdown on the all-in-one swift server I'm using14:25
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ahaleswift-init [all|main|rest|object-server|container-replicator] shutdown14:27
ahalekinda thing14:27
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bradamsdoes anyone have a list of fwaas available fwaas plugins?14:36
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bradamsdoes anyone have a list of available fwaas plugins?14:37
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Guest98004Hi--Does anyone know if it's possible to have instances on a physical network (I'14:48
Guest98004(I'm trying to get instances to have a public WAN IP) without NATing?14:48
Guest98004(Using Neutron)14:49
Sam-I-Amprovider networks14:49
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Guest98004can provider networks be "shared" networks as well, so that multiple tenants c an use it?14:50
Sam-I-Ami think so14:50
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Guest98004thank you very much.  I'm looking into them now14:50
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kodiak11ahale:  thanks man14:53
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KenErwinSorry to bother you guys again--So if I use a provider network, the instances would be directly on the network, NOT using floating IPs right?  Is that something that I need to read about like ML2 to use?  Or do you guys know of a good tutorial on how to set that up?"15:06
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nagyzKenErwin, https://developer.rackspace.com/blog/neutron-networking-vlan-provider-networks/15:21
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nagyzand yes, floating IPs are NATted IPs 1:1, with provider networks you can attach the VMs directly to the "real" network15:21
nagyzgtg now, sorry :)15:21
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eflynni just started devstack and i made an instance but it just says “spawning” for the last 10 minutes… what gives?15:40
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klindgreneflynn, does it have an ip address?15:41
eflynnklindgren: yes15:41
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klindgrenmy experience: backing file still downloading - check to see if /var/lib/nova/instances/_base/<sha1sum of the uuid of the image> exists15:43
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klindgrenor neutron did not report into nova that it correctly wired up the vif - and the vm is stuck waiting for neutron to report back15:44
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eflynnklindgren: well, this is devstack, does that make a diffference15:44
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klindgreneflynn, I dont usually run devstack - but in our production environment those are the causes of a vm in spawning15:44
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klindgrenwell. usually 99.99% of them anyway15:45
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eflynnyes it exists15:45
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eflynnin /var/lib/cloud/instances/<uuid>15:46
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klindgrenand its not .part?15:46
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eflynnklindgren: no15:47
klindgrenSo if not.  Then my next guess would be to look for something in the neutron log that it failed to notify nova of a vif plug event15:48
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klindgrenUsually nova will timeout on spawning and the vm will go to error though.  Thats all I have after that.15:48
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darroyoSam-I-Am: if you're curious, i solved the problem i had last night with quantum-openvswitch-agent not recreating ovs ports15:53
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darroyoSam-I-Am: i had to upgrade my openvswitch kernel module package15:54
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deadPoetits a little quiet yeah17:01
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deadPoetits a little quiet yeah17:02
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methI thought chef12 was just released officially this week?17:10
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Sam-I-Amdarroyo: interesting17:12
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drogohmeth: the RC was announced, just worded weirdly17:21
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Sam-I-Amdarroyo: kind of weird that it would stop working until the upgrade. unless its a bug that takes a while to manifest... or a kernel problem.17:21
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methI was losing my mind because I had client/servers time in sync and no_lazy_load=true and yet the same resource constantly getting a 403 on chef11 and no idea how to debug it and nothing in the logs...17:30
ram5391I'm having an issue with my installation. My network is being bogged down by arp requests coming from my compute nodes17:31
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ram5391Using neutron/gre tunnling17:31
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ram5391I've checked to make sure all the services are running on the headnode, but it still has no effect17:32
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darroyoSam-I-Am: I found the issue was only on servers recently added. The person before me did not capture the package upgrade in our automated deploy process.17:41
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Sam-I-Amah whoops17:41
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ram5391what would cause compute nodes to be generating a huge amount of arp requests18:01
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SoorajI have completed all installation steps, and when I'm trying to launch the openstack instance, an error is appearing. httpConnectionpool(host='controller' port=8774) Request timeout=600.018:02
SoorajPlease anyone help18:03
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SoorajI have completed all installation steps, and when I'm trying to launch the openstack instance, an error is appearing. httpConnectionpool(host='controller' port=8774) Request timeout=600.018:05
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georgem2Sooraj:check if nova-api is running and listening on port 877418:06
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ram5391run a quick "nova-manage service list" and see if you have any XXX's18:07
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ram5391does anyone know what could cause compute nodes to be generating a huge amount of arp requests18:10
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larsksram5391: no clue; are they getting replies?18:10
ram5391my headnode is being bogged down by these requests, and all of the neutron services are running18:10
larsksAre the arp requests all for the same address?18:11
Soorajnova-api is running. But how can I check I the port listerning ?18:11
ram5391larsks: I'm not sure, upon doing a TCP dump, it gets bogged down before I can analyze18:11
ram5391and yes, they are mostly all for the same IP18:11
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larsksram5391: in theory you could tcpdump to a file, wait a bit, and analyze the file somewhere else.18:12
larsksIf the requests are all for the same ip and they are not getting a reply...fixing that problem might make the requests stop.18:12
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SoorajI have completed all installation steps, and when I'm trying to launch the openstack instance, an error is appearing. httpConnectionpool(host='controller' port=8774) Request timeout=600.018:15
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ram5391Larsks: agreed, they don't seem to be getting a reply. But I don't know what the problem is in order to fix it unfortunately18:16
larsksSooraj: someone has already suggested something you should look at.18:16
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larsksram5391: What are the arp requests for?  Are they for something like the neutron router? Or something else?18:17
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georgem2ram5391:can you provide more info? what's is the IP of the two nodes and what's the ARP for?18:17
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methhow would you get `nova dns-create` to work? I tried to run it but just get a 500 error.. in logs I see a NotImplementedError thrown..18:27
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larsksmeth: this suggests that maybe you don't: https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/1163/what-do-the-nova-dns-commands-do/18:31
larsksmeth: ...but I don't know for certain.18:31
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frayzi've created an instance that can ping the gateway but not the dns server.  anyone know of a good network troubleshooting guide for openstack?18:49
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georgem2frayz:there is a network troubleshooting section in the official doc18:52
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frayztrue - i should have consulted that before asking.  reading now... thanks18:53
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questionmorchello, im setting up a 2 node architecture on debian wheezy.. following these instructions. http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/install-guide/install/apt-debian/content/basics-networking-node-compute-node.html... my controller node and compute node can ping each other but i can't access the outside network configuring the interface  like the instructions say. Its not a router issue because if i dhcp the outside network interfa18:57
questionmorcam i suppose to use another interface for internet connectivity?18:57
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georgem2frayz:depending on how your environment is configured, the problem can be in different places..18:59
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frayzi can also ping the hypervisor that's running the vm19:00
kanakaAnybody know of a reasonable way of disabling port mac/ip spoof protection for a single port or network (ml2 + openvswitch)? I want to have a VM that does routing. I know there is some in-progress work to make this happen, but I need to get this working before that lands.19:00
questionmorcok but its supposed to able to ping the internet with just the two interfaces configured like the documentation says?19:00
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questionmorcor should i have a 3rd for internet connectivity?19:01
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larskskanaka:19:02
larskskanaka: never mind, tab typo.19:02
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georgem2questionmorc: later in the doc you'll create a br-ex and add that external interface to it and put an IP on br-ex, this is going to be your Internet connectivity19:03
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questionmorcok its just that in the next step it says to verify connectivity and ping openstack... this doesnt work for me http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/install-guide/install/apt-debian/content/basics-networking-nova-verify.html19:04
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questionmorcwhich has me confused19:05
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frayztcpdump on the hypervisor shows the icmp requests trying to ping the dns server19:08
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frayzah, but i never see any echo replies come back19:09
georgem2frayz:so, the pings reach the gateway and are sent further but never come back?19:09
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frayzpings to the gw work fine but pings to the dns server do not come back19:11
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georgem2kanaka:http://openstack.markmail.org/search/?q=spoof+protection+disable#query:spoof%20protection%20disable+page:1+mid:augwofz3tjj36weu+state:results19:11
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georgem2frayz:what is the IP of your instance? how about its gateway and the DNS?19:12
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frayzgeorgem2: the instance is 10.0.0.40, gw is 10.0.0.1, and dns is 192.135.x.x19:14
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georgem2frayz: where is the gw located, inside your controller or neutron node? can you ping 192.135.x.x from there?19:15
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frayzgeorgem2: not sure, investigating...19:18
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glenbotim getting the following error when trying to create instances on an icehouse installation - http://paste.openstack.org/raw/110770/19:19
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glenboti followed the guide step by step and reached this point launching the first instance, i tested that all connectivity between nodes works19:19
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kanakageorgem2: perfect! Using the port's own MAC and 0.0.0.0/0 is working. My VM is now routing traffic. Much appreciated!19:20
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georgem2kanaka:cool19:21
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georgem2glenbot:add "vif_plugging_is_fatal = false" and "vif_plugging_timeout = 0" in nova.conf on the compute node, restart the nova-compute service and try again19:22
frayzgeorgem2: 10.0.0.1 belongs to a port on one of the virtual routers.  i noticed that both interfaces say "internal interface" - one should say "external gateway" if i'm not mistaken19:23
glenbotgeorgem2: thanks -- going to go test19:23
georgem2glenbot: and make sure Nova can connect fine to AMQP when you restart the service, it should be logged like this19:23
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georgem2frayz:the routing table inside the namespace where the 10.0.0.1 lives should have a default route to the qg interface; routing should be enabled on that server, it should actually have to be able to reach the DNS, there are a number of things that have to work19:27
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glenbotgeorgem2: those lines are added in the DEFAULT section correct?19:27
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georgem2glenbot: yes19:27
georgem2glenbot: it's just a workaround, if it works..19:28
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glenbotgeorgem2: no dice -- same issue. I tested my AMPQ connection by restarting rabbit on the controller -- here is the nove-compute log http://paste.openstack.org/show/110785/19:31
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georgem2glenbot:check the neutron-openvswitch-agent log for errors19:33
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frayzgeorgem2: how can i check the routing table inside the namespace where 10.0.0.1 lives?19:37
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glenbotgeorgem2: building a new VM, one sec19:38
georgem2frayz:ip netns list, ip netns exec qrouter-xxxxxx route -n19:38
glenbotgeorgem2: nothing in that log after creating the instance -- i'm looking at that log on the compute node19:39
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georgem2glanbot/frazy: I'm leaving in a few min. but the room is full of people19:49
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georgem2frazy: there is a good list of articles here describing how neutron works: http://techbackground.blogspot.ca/2013/05/the-quantum-l3-router-and-floating-ips.html19:50
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kr4m3rhello all, i have a old pentium 4 (64 bits) i have installed Openstack over CentOS 6.5 using RDO Quickstart guide, all is good and running. I get a instance running with Cirros x86_64 image, but it can deploy ubuntu i386 or x86_64. I know, my server have no vtx/Virtualization but i would like to take it running as test server. So, can i run any ubuntu image into this server?20:57
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Sam-I-Amyou can probably use qemu, but it will be terribly slow20:58
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kr4m3rSam-I-Am: Hello!!! how much time??? remember me?20:58
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kr4m3rSam-I-Am: yes i know but its only for tests purpose20:59
kr4m3rso, i dont need very fast resources.20:59
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Sam-I-Amtime flies here, lots of people21:02
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skulloneso ive tested a number of ways, and it seems to be it considers it isolated ONLY if isolated_metadata is True, AND there is no router assigned to it, AND if --disable-gateway is defined23:44
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skullonethe documentation seems to suggest that --disable-gateway is not needed23:45
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skulloneoh well, its working now23:45
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Sam-I-Amis there a docs bug?23:51
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skullonei didnt search23:57
Sam-I-Amif the docs arent clear and you figured it out, file a bug23:57
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methis there nothing better than `nova list` for getting machine readable output?23:59

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