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| wmealing | actually, you know what | 00:03 |
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| wmealing | i'm mixing up openstack and openshift | 00:03 |
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| atmark | Hi, I'm getting this error when I try to access openstack API outside of the network. | 01:13 |
| atmark | ERROR: [Errno 113] No route to host | 01:13 |
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| atmark | I can ping the host and check if I can access port 5000 and 35357 | 01:14 |
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| ErwanJ | Any errors in compute.log file look like on the compute node? | 01:15 |
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| atmark | I can see GET and POST request in keystone.log of the controller | 01:16 |
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| ranger82 | I am hitting this error - https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1193359 | 01:34 |
| ranger82 | what is the workaround? | 01:34 |
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| lkthomas | hey guys | 02:07 |
| lkthomas | did anyone compare CEPH building cost VS commercial SAN ? | 02:07 |
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| girb | Hi all .. just a simple question | 07:18 |
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| girb | can I include the conf's in nova like /etc/nova/nova.conf.d/ | 07:18 |
| girb | I mean multiple conf's under /etc/nova/nova.conf.d/ | 07:18 |
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| girb | can I include the conf's in nova like  /etc/nova/nova.conf.d/ ? | 07:22 |
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| girb | can I include the conf's in nova like  /etc/nova/nova.conf.d/  | 08:19 |
| girb | plz help | 08:19 |
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| sld | girb: no. though there are subdirectories with different configuration files in them, such as neutron with its subdirectories, none of them allow for includes like that. | 08:23 |
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| Syed | Hi All. Did anyone integrate docker with openstack ?? Can anyone guide me how to start off please . Thanks !! | 11:28 |
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| Syed | Hi All. Did anyone integrate docker with openstack ?? Can anyone guide me how to start off please . Thanks !! | 11:36 |
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| larsks | Syed: You don't really need to repeat yourself. | 11:57 |
| larsks | Syed: There is support for docker through the nova-docker driver, and through a plugin for Heat. I wrote an article about the latter here: http://blog.oddbit.com/2014/08/30/docker-plugin-for-openstack-he/ | 11:58 |
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| larsks | Information about nova-docker is here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Docker | 11:58 |
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| Syed | larsks: thanks ! i'll try with this and get back. It was helpful | 12:32 |
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| bradams | anyone care to help me with a networking issue? | 14:21 |
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| bradams | havana to icehouse upgrade killed VM conectivity | 14:22 |
| bradams | connectivity* | 14:22 |
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| benwha | how is that, when you re launch your instance it works ? | 14:23 |
| SamYaple | bradams: where do you see the traffic dropping? | 14:23 |
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| bradams | SamYaple: I can ping the external network gateway from both ends (inside/outside VM) but nothing gets past that | 14:24 |
| SamYaple | So vm traffic gets to the interweb, but you can't ping the vm? | 14:24 |
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| SamYaple | Or it is being dropped at the neutron router? | 14:24 |
| bradams | it doesnt get to the interweb, it just gets to the external gateway | 14:25 |
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| bradams | not even my physical network gateway | 14:25 |
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| SamYaple | So you can see the traffic in the router namespace, but it drops past that? | 14:26 |
| bradams | i can see the pings hitting the gateway in both the internal network sp | 14:26 |
| bradams | oops | 14:26 |
| bradams | yeah basically | 14:26 |
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| SamYaple | Sounds like possibly a problem with your rules. I am assuming OVS with GRE, is that correct? | 14:27 |
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| bradams | correct | 14:27 |
| benwha | I have a question, is it possible to manage instance in zone into one cloud openstack from another cloud openstack ? Yes or No | 14:27 |
| SamYaple | Tried restarting the agents to rebuild the rules? | 14:27 |
| bradams | i have, but i'll do it again | 14:27 |
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| SamYaple | probably just need to restart the l3 agent, I believe that is the only one screwing with iptables in the router namespace | 14:28 |
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| lcurtis | hello all...I am trying to put together dev and prod openstack environments...wondering if someone could share experience with diy storage | 14:29 |
| SamYaple | benwha: You are asking to manage instance from a diffent openstack environment? | 14:29 |
| SamYaple | lcurtis: ceph | 14:29 |
| lcurtis | we currently rely on zfs quite a bit and its done well | 14:29 |
| lcurtis | would like to lean more toward shared storage | 14:29 |
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| lcurtis | samyaple...you really dig ceph? | 14:30 |
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| lcurtis | trying to decide on cinder and ceph | 14:30 |
| lcurtis | kvm images | 14:30 |
| SamYaple | lcurtis: indeed. It hasn't let me down yet | 14:30 |
| lcurtis | i come from a fiber channel background | 14:30 |
| SamYaple | you dont use one or the other, cpeh is a cinder backend | 14:30 |
| SamYaple | cinder doesn't store data | 14:30 |
| SamYaple | it manages data storage | 14:30 |
| lcurtis | okay | 14:30 |
| lcurtis | so what i said was off a bit then | 14:31 |
| lcurtis | ceph is solution for sinder | 14:31 |
| lcurtis | cinder? | 14:31 |
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| SamYaple | Ceph is your one stop shop. Glance, Ephemeral, Cinder, even Swift now can all be backed by ceph | 14:31 |
| lcurtis | nice... | 14:31 |
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| SamYaple | Indeed | 14:32 |
| lcurtis | may i ask what you wree using before ceph? | 14:32 |
| lcurtis | were | 14:32 |
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| SamYaple | ZFS, but that was before I was using Openstack at all | 14:32 |
| lcurtis | okay cool | 14:32 |
| SamYaple | Ceph actually traces its roots to before Openstack, so its been around a while | 14:32 |
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| lcurtis | what kind of storage fabric are you using with Ceph? | 14:33 |
| SamYaple | Not being from a fiberchannel background, I dont know what you mean by fabric! ;) | 14:33 |
| lcurtis | lol...i only vaguedly do as well | 14:33 |
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| lcurtis | so you have everything running through switches? | 14:34 |
| SamYaple | My nodes are 64GB RAM 36x4TB sata disks with 3 ssd drives for the write journal | 14:34 |
| lcurtis | 1gb / 10gb? | 14:34 |
| SamYaple | 10gb | 14:34 |
| lcurtis | cisco? | 14:34 |
| SamYaple | brocade | 14:34 |
| lcurtis | ah..k | 14:34 |
| SamYaple | imt not made of money for | 14:34 |
| lcurtis | nice..big cost savings? | 14:34 |
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| SamYaple | brocade 7410, ethernet rj-45 connectors, all licensed and cabled up was less than 40,000 | 14:35 |
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| SamYaple | it performs nicely after tunning | 14:35 |
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| cookednoodles | needs more spf+ | 14:36 |
| SamYaple | cookednoodles: never. Way to expesive. Ethernet is the past and future. | 14:37 |
| cookednoodles | DAC is prettyyy cheap | 14:37 |
| SamYaple | While that may be true, the overall cost was significantly cheaper to just go pure ethernet at the time. haven't checked recently | 14:38 |
| lcurtis | still seems like fiber channel cheaper for a nominal configuration compared to 10gbe | 14:39 |
| lcurtis | 10gbe more power consumption too, right? | 14:39 |
| lcurtis | than sfp | 14:39 |
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| SamYaple | sfp switch is only 110W max | 14:42 |
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| lcurtis | but general consensus is 10gb should be minimum speed for storage segment? | 14:43 |
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| lcurtis | gbps that is | 14:43 |
| SamYaple | lcurtis: I would say that is dependant on what you are doing for storage, and how much you have | 14:43 |
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| cookednoodles | in this day and age, having 200M for storage is pretty slow | 14:43 |
| SamYaple | You dont want to lose a 100TB node with only 1gb networking | 14:43 |
| lcurtis | true... | 14:44 |
| cookednoodles | I mean you can hook up to a SAN or ceph cluster and get 1000M on every node .. | 14:44 |
| cookednoodles | for around 200 per server | 14:44 |
| cookednoodles | its cheaper than buying disks | 14:44 |
| SamYaple | if we are tlaking rack and storage density, 10gb is a must | 14:44 |
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| lcurtis | yeah...just 10gbe switches seem so $$$ | 14:45 |
| SamYaple | if you are stringing together disks from all of your other nodes, 1gb should be fine | 14:45 |
| cookednoodles | 2-3k for 24 ports isn't expensive | 14:45 |
| SamYaple | ^^ | 14:45 |
| lcurtis | 24 ports of 10gb? | 14:46 |
| cookednoodles | yeah, you can go force10 etc.. for pretty cheap | 14:46 |
| cookednoodles | even juniper with a good VAR | 14:46 |
| lcurtis | wow...did not realize | 14:46 |
| lcurtis | ahh..dell | 14:46 |
| SamYaple | I miss when force10 wasn't owned by dell. | 14:46 |
| SamYaple | I still have that switch at my house running my networking | 14:47 |
| SamYaple | it is a champ | 14:47 |
| cookednoodles | you do also need to buy cards for each machine, but for being thrifty with some negociation, you're at like 200-250 per box | 14:47 |
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| cookednoodles | when you calculate that, vs having 4 disks per machine and the liabilities, its very easy math | 14:47 |
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| lcurtis | yes...indeed | 14:48 |
| cookednoodles | also, bigger epenis etc.. | 14:48 |
| SamYaple | ^^^^^^ | 14:49 |
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| benwha | SamYaple: yes I want to run instance from 1 controller to other compute zone from another cloud, is it possible ? | 14:49 |
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| SamYaple | benwha: Being that this is all api calls, you can just schedule it in the other cloud if you are using matching credintials, just change the endpoint. But no, you services running on a controller in one cloud can not manage a compute in a different cloud. | 14:52 |
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| benwha | SamYaple: Not necessary manage compute, but juste be able to run instance on a nova-compute which is located on a different openstack cloud | 14:58 |
| notmyname | SamYaple: just curious. have you used "swift backed by ceph"? | 14:58 |
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| SamYaple | notmyname: indeed i have. But I have not throughly tested it. I had no issues though | 14:59 |
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| SamYaple | apparently mirantis(or someone like them) is rolling it out to its customers | 14:59 |
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| notmyname | SamYaple: and at that point swift is configured as a 1 replica pass-through? | 14:59 |
| SamYaple | notmyname: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/development_ondisk_backends.html | 15:00 |
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| SamYaple | If I read that correctly, then you can still configure it to have multiple swift copies | 15:00 |
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| SamYaple | If I read it correctly, you could technically have 3 copies in different ceph clusters | 15:01 |
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| terje | neutron question.. | 15:02 |
| SamYaple | notmyname: but yes, I set it up as a 1 replica thing and just passed the object to swift | 15:02 |
| SamYaple | *ceph | 15:02 |
| notmyname | SamYaple: right, but each of those copies (from swift's perspective) will actually be replicated themselves in ceph, effectively leading to 9 replicas | 15:02 |
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| terje | I have some VM's that aren't getting an address via DHCP. | 15:02 |
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| SamYaple | notmyname: this is true, unless you configue ceph differently. Example being 2 copies in ceph, 2 copies in swift. Swift has much better replication across datacenters, so you replicate across with a ceph cluster in each datacenter | 15:03 |
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| terje | I can see the dhcp requests on the virtual interfaces on my compute node (tap, qbr, qvo). | 15:03 |
| terje | however, I'm not seeing them in br-int | 15:03 |
| terje | but I think, they are vlan tagged at that point and I'm not sure how to really look at those packets. | 15:04 |
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| SamYaple | terje: not uncommot an issue. Also, you wont see them on br-int, but on int-br-bond | 15:05 |
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| terje | I don't have an int-br-bond? | 15:05 |
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| terje | I'm using OVS+vlan | 15:05 |
| SamYaple | `ovs-vsctl show` | 15:06 |
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| SamYaple | look for your br-int bridge, you should have a port with a name like "int-br-*" | 15:06 |
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| terje | http://pastie.org/9591005 | 15:08 |
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| SamYaple | terje: My apologies, I now see you said OVS+vlan | 15:09 |
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| SamYaple | terje: you should see the dhcp request on "phy-br-eth2" | 15:10 |
| terje | ok | 15:10 |
| terje | checking.. | 15:10 |
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| terje | ok, I don't see them on that interface | 15:13 |
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| terje | tcpdump -i phy-br-eth2 port 68 and port 69 | 15:13 |
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| SamYaple | Shouldn't that be an OR? | 15:14 |
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| terje | no, I wish to see prots 68 and 69 | 15:15 |
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| Sam-I-Am | 67 and 68 is dhcp | 15:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | 69 is tftp | 15:15 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you also want 'or' since 'and' means the packet contains both ports | 15:16 |
| SamYaple | tcpdump uses logical AND and ORs I believe | 15:16 |
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| terje | oops your right about the ports | 15:17 |
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| joefides | I'm looking for some pointers to troubleshoot a 'Got mysql has gone away' error (2006). MySQL is alive and well and I can get in via the command line. I'm seeing that error in the conductor and scheduler logs. The existing VMs work fine, but creating new ones does not. I restarted the nova services yesterday and that worked for a time, but back to the MySQL error again. Any pointers or tips that I can chase down? | 15:18 |
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| SamYaple | joefides: do you use a load balancer? | 15:19 |
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| joefides | I don't believe so (I'm somewhat flying blind as I just inherited this cluster a day ago!) | 15:19 |
| SamYaple | The ip address nova.conf points to, is it a VIP? This is a very common error when using an improperly configured load balancer | 15:20 |
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| joefides | Let me look. And I'll say this--it was working for numerous weeks, but the logs weren't being properly rotated and the disk was full and things stopped working (if that info helps or not, I don't know) | 15:24 |
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| SamYaple | joefides: disk full == very bad. SQL database on the same host? | 15:25 |
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| pensu | Hi all, is there any way where I can define the node id on which I want to boot a particular image? I mean an option to give with nova boot? | 15:26 |
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| terje | joefides: If you've fixed up the disk issue | 15:26 |
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| terje | I recommend restarting qpidd (or your AMQ) and all the openstack services. | 15:27 |
| joefides | yes, same host | 15:27 |
| terje | service qpidd restart && openstack-service restart | 15:27 |
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| SamYaple | joefides: also make sure your database is clean. Full disks do some crazy things and SQL databases have corrupted for less. | 15:29 |
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| user_42 | Hi all! Anyone seen failing to attach a volume to an instance on icehouse? Error in volume.log is "Failed to create iscsi target" and "Error creating NetworkPortal: ensure port 3260 is not in use by another service". Installation was done with packstack on a single centos 7 server. | 15:34 |
| terje | user_42: what does 'lsof -i:3206' tell you? | 15:34 |
| user_42 | terje: netstat -lnap | grep 3260 | 15:35 |
| user_42 | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:3260 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 22661/tgtd | 15:35 |
| user_42 | tcp6 0 0 :::3260 :::* LISTEN 22661/tgtd | 15:35 |
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| user_42 | lsof -i:3206 nothing | 15:35 |
| * terje huh, I dunno | 15:35 | |
| user_42 | ok | 15:35 |
| user_42 | lsof -i:3260 | 15:35 |
| user_42 | COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME | 15:35 |
| user_42 | tgtd 6010 root 6u IPv4 5296412 0t0 TCP *:iscsi-target (LISTEN) | 15:35 |
| user_42 | tgtd 6010 root 7u IPv6 5296413 0t0 TCP *:iscsi-target (LISTEN) | 15:35 |
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| joefides | I'm not sure what you mean by clean...I can log in, query, etc., so I'm guessing that's fine | 15:36 |
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| joefides | terje: there is no qpidd service | 15:37 |
| terje | joefides: you must be running a message bus | 15:37 |
| terje | rabbitmq or qpidd | 15:37 |
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| joefides | Yep, rabbitmq... | 15:38 |
| gaud | terje, thanks for the "openstack-service" tip.. I feel stupid that I didn't see that before :) | 15:39 |
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| terje | yea, that's a good one. | 15:42 |
| user_42 | i had a for loop grep awk solution for restarting as well ... but openstack-service is very cool. thanks as well :-) | 15:42 |
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| terje | I aim to please.. | 15:42 |
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| SamYaple | terje: I also thank you for that. I have not seen that before. | 15:44 |
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| terje | oh the karma... | 15:45 |
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| SamYaple | an upboat to your good sir | 15:45 |
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| joefides | terje: I'll restart rabbit and the openstack-service and see where I stand. As an aside, and forgive the rookie question, will the individual VMs need to be restarted as well? | 15:53 |
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| joefides | Thanks for your insight (you too, SamYaple) | 15:54 |
| luisflugel | hi guys, staring an instances I get "Could not fetch image", where should I look? | 15:54 |
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| luisflugel | I checked glance-api.conf, glance-registry.conf, nova.conf, nova-api.conf for obvious mistakes and I cant find it | 15:56 |
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| stupidnic | In Neutron OVS, the exbr interface, that should be attached to the interface that is public, correct? So if I don't see the interface listed under 'ovs-vsctl show' under the brex that might be why I can't talk to floating ips? | 15:58 |
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| snowgust | hello | 16:01 |
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| snowgust | has anyone run into an issue where cinder-volume exports and then immediatelly removes a tgt target? | 16:01 |
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| SamYaple | luisflugel: Do you have multiple glance servers? | 16:04 |
| luisflugel | only one | 16:04 |
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| user_42 | snowgust: maybe same or similar problem with me. I am not able to attach a volume. Errors "Failed to create iscsi target" and "Error creating NetworkPortal: ensure port 3260 is not in use by another service" | 16:05 |
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| snowgust | SamYaple: no. We had two cinder instances at one time but one has been deactivated | 16:06 |
| user_42 | snowgust: I have a single server installation with packstack on centos 7 | 16:06 |
| snowgust | user_42: hm... actually I don't see errors on my cinder-volume node | 16:07 |
| snowgust | user_42: I just see the target being created only to be immediatelly deleted | 16:07 |
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| snowgust | I see messages like "removing export terminate_connection" and "Removing iscsi_target for: VOLUME_ID" | 16:08 |
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| Lineux | Hello :) I'm making a switch from VMware ESXi to OpenStack environment. I have been reading the guides and studying the layout. Although I confuse myself some times and have some questions. Help would be appreciated | 17:15 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Lineux: such as? | 17:17 |
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| Lineux | I have a single host that I will be running OpenStack on. It calls for 3 nodes: Controller, Network and Compute. would it be ok for all of them to reside on that single host that would be running the OpenStack? | 17:19 |
| SamYaple | Yes | 17:19 |
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| SamYaple | You may also want to look into Devstack for testing and learning the Openstack API | 17:19 |
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| Lineux | I see, I'm looking at Devstack right now | 17:22 |
| Lineux | is there a preferred underlying OS for OpenStack? | 17:23 |
| Lineux | I'm more of a Centos person and was thinking of building on top of that | 17:23 |
| SamYaple | Lineux: No, what ever you are used to | 17:23 |
| SamYaple | Centos is a good choice, Ubuntu or RedHat installs are widly used | 17:24 |
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| MilesDenver | I need to build a graph that measures the number of instances on our OpenStack cluster over time. | 17:25 |
| MilesDenver | Anyone have any guidance for me? | 17:25 |
| SamYaple | MilesDenver: Poll the database | 17:25 |
| MilesDenver | right….. I'm examining the data now. | 17:26 |
| SamYaple | Technically this kind of thing is what Ceilometer is built for, but good luck! | 17:26 |
| SamYaple | nova -> compute_nodes | 17:26 |
| MilesDenver | yea… I never installed Ceiliometer. | 17:26 |
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| SamYaple | Probably for the best. It has its problems | 17:26 |
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| KaZeR | MilesDenver: we graph the number of instances running per hypervisor using "/usr/bin/gmetric --name instances --value `pgrep qemu|wc -l` --type int16" in the crontab | 17:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | Lineux: most people dont use all-in-ones for production though | 17:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | single point of failure | 17:27 |
| MilesDenver | SamYaple: that's what I saw too. But now it would be nice to have a graph that I can use to purchase more compute nodes | 17:27 |
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| MilesDenver | KaZer: that's a great idea… just need a time machine. | 17:27 |
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| snowgust | MilesDenver: we use Zabbix to monitor and graph our hypervisors | 17:28 |
| KaZeR | MilesDenver: a time machine ? this will send the metric to our ganglia monitoring, and we do have graphs over time, stored in RRD | 17:28 |
| MilesDenver | snowgust: I use Zabbix too… but I don't think we ever bothered to do nice graphs | 17:28 |
| snowgust | we get the running instances using "nova hypervisor-servers hypervisor_name" | 17:28 |
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| Lineux | Sam-I-Am: I understand. This is going to be interesting | 17:30 |
| MilesDenver | KaZer: graphs "over time" are what I'd like to mine | 17:30 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Lineux: the basic 3-node config also helps with understanding how things work and seeing how network traffic flows (and debugging it) | 17:31 |
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| Sam-I-Am | by building config files manually, you learn how it all goes together | 17:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | because it Will Break | 17:31 |
| Lineux | I would love to have multiple machines. although right now its going to be one big host hosting a few VMs with seperate applications. webserver,database,caches. etc | 17:31 |
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| SamYaple | Lineux: You can build and install openstack in VMs on a single host. Libvirt+kvm kind of thing | 17:32 |
| SamYaple | If you isolate the network, youll be good to go in undertanding it all | 17:32 |
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| Lineux | my current setup that I'm moving away from was on VMware esxi. 4VMs running with 2 vSwtiches. I had a private lan and a 'world' access seperately. | 17:33 |
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| Lineux | with backups of the VMs and its data both done seperately somewhere else | 17:34 |
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| Lineux | I have a new host machine that I'd be installing openstack on | 17:34 |
| Lineux | and then gradually migrating everything over | 17:34 |
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| keeperandy | Lineux: If you are looking for something more like ESXi, I'd look at oVirt rather than OpenStack (IMHO) | 17:35 |
| SamYaple | Lineux: While that will indeed work, just make sure you understand Openstack first. Hate for oyu to lose data | 17:35 |
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| Lineux | I will run both systems in parallel for a bit. test my setup on openstack to see | 17:35 |
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| keeperandy | Lineux: But to try out OpenStack on CentOS/RHEL, try RDO: https://openstack.redhat.com/Quickstart | 17:36 |
| KaZeR | MilesDenver: you mean you'd like to graph the metric also before adding the metric monitoring ? | 17:37 |
| Lineux | I will do that. | 17:37 |
| MilesDenver | Kazer: I was hoping to find something in the nova DB that I could use to get historic data…. maybe nova.compute_node_stats table | 17:38 |
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| KaZeR | MilesDenver: terminated instances DB entries are kept into the DB, with the creation and deletion date. so if you parse that table, you can definitely rebuild your cluster history | 17:39 |
| MilesDenver | KaZer: Thanks…. I'm leaving for now. I have about 6 other things pulling me out of IRC. | 17:39 |
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| KaZeR | have fun :) | 17:39 |
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| Lineux | thank you guys :) | 17:41 |
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| Lineux | I will come back if I have more questions | 17:41 |
| SamYaple | Lineux: Welcome to the club | 17:41 |
| Lineux | it was a hard switch btw | 17:41 |
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| Lineux | the vmware propaganda had taken over my mind even though I was all about opensource at my core | 17:42 |
| Lineux | lol | 17:42 |
| Lineux | I'm sure I'll contribute back to the community, I will try. | 17:42 |
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| joefides | terje: Where does openstack-service reside? I don't see it as a service and a find doesn't yield a location. | 18:06 |
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| keeperandy | joefides: /usr/bin/openstack-service | 18:09 |
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| keeperandy | $ which openstack-service | 18:09 |
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| joefides | keeperandy: I did a find and a which (/usr/bin/which: no openstack-service in (/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/root/bin) ... | 18:10 |
| keeperandy | On my CentOS 6.5 host installed from RDO repos that's where it is for me | 18:11 |
| keeperandy | might differ on other distros | 18:11 |
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| joefides | I've inherited this cluster, so I'm not sure exactly what was done. Does that just wrap all the other openstack services?--easy enough to restart all of them if so. | 18:13 |
| keeperandy | joefides: yes, skimming the code it looks like it is just a wrapper for the init scripts | 18:16 |
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| keeperandy | It can also list the enabled services on that host | 18:17 |
| keeperandy | check to see if you have the "openstack-utils" package installed, it comes in that | 18:20 |
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| joefides | it doesn't look like it | 18:20 |
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| keeperandy | It might also be unique to RDO, the author is from Red Hat and the code seems like it would only work on an rpm-based host | 18:23 |
| joefides | Actually, yes, it appears it's installed, but the version is 2013.1-8.el6. | 18:23 |
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| keeperandy | Mine came from EPEL and is 2014.1-3.el6 | 18:24 |
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| joefides | And the source you're talking about is at git.openstack.org/openstack? | 18:24 |
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| keeperandy | no, it is just a shell script and I read the file installed at /usr/bin/openstack-status on one of my hosts | 18:25 |
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| keeperandy | joefides: Here you go: http://paste.openstack.org/show/115043/ | 18:27 |
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| joefides | Cool...thanks! Was just going to look for it in git (or wherever). Let me see if this works for this install. | 18:29 |
| keeperandy | np | 18:30 |
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| joefides | So an openstack-services should restart the services? | 18:33 |
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| keeperandy | "openstack-service restart" will issue a restart call to all the services the script detects | 18:36 |
| keeperandy | you can see which ones with "openstack-service list" | 18:36 |
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| luisflugel | I keep fighting with this http://pastebin.com/KKh3qaDW, I really appreciate some ideas. This happens when I boot an instance and that appears at nova-scheduller.log @controller | 18:37 |
| Ashwee | hello, looking to create a hyper-v environment with the controller hosted on a hyper-v vm - followed the ubuntu 14.04 guide but got blocked around networking and promiscuous mode etc. struggling to find a guide for full hyper-v install, can anyone recommend anything? | 18:37 |
| keeperandy | luisflugel: I see a "exception.CouldNotFetchImage(image_id=image_id)", is glance working normally? | 18:39 |
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| luisflugel | keeperandy: I uploaded the images, I can list them on both controller and compute nodes | 18:39 |
| luisflugel | keeperandy: is there a way to just download the image (withouth going to python), something like 'nova image-get'? | 18:41 |
| joefides | keeperandy: The restart doesn't seem to do anything more than list the running services (same as if I were to not include the restart). Am I missing something? | 18:42 |
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| keeperandy | luisflugel: "glance image-download <IMAGE> --progress" | 18:43 |
| keeperandy | luisflugel: get "<IMAGE>" ID with "glance image-list" | 18:43 |
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| keeperandy | joefides: for me it did restart all the confiugred services, what distro are you running on? | 18:44 |
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| joefides | looks like mirantis' | 18:46 |
| keeperandy | on CentOS? | 18:47 |
| luisflugel | keeperandy: that command worked just fine | 18:47 |
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| keeperandy | as I recall Mirantis/Fuel uses CentOS | 18:48 |
| joefides | Yes, 6.4 Final | 18:48 |
| luisflugel | keeperandy: this is a xen hypervisor and the controller it's a domU | 18:48 |
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| joefides | As an aside, I'm trying to recover from a disk being full--I'm seeing a ton of "Got mysql server gone away" Some help earlier suggested the restarts (just to frame this properly) | 18:49 |
| keeperandy | luisflugel: did you try downloading that image on your nova-compute host? Based on the error you posted, nova-compute wasn't able to fetch image ID ad7b44ce-17d0-4dad-a8b6-cabcefa94d68 | 18:51 |
| joefides | As an aside, what you posted is equivalent to openstack-status in my distro I think (or close) | 18:51 |
| keeperandy | luisflugel: you might need to install python-glanceclient on your compute host to do that | 18:51 |
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| keeperandy | I bet openstack-status uses some of the same logic to suss out what is running locally and then report on it | 18:52 |
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| joefides | it looks very similar...a few missing commands | 18:53 |
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| luisflugel | keeperandy: I did exactly that in the compute node VM, hot at the hypervisor | 18:53 |
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| keeperandy | luisflugel: sorry, I meant hypervisor when I said "compute node", not a VM running on it | 18:54 |
| luisflugel | keeperandy: to have a xen hypervisor it's a bit more complicated that a kvm one | 18:54 |
| luisflugel | ohh | 18:54 |
| luisflugel | mmm | 18:54 |
| luisflugel | let me check | 18:54 |
| luisflugel | keeperandy: the odd thing is taht I have it running in my lab :P | 18:54 |
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| keeperandy | I don't know if installing that python-glanceclient on Dom0 is a good test or not, all my stuff and experience is KVM | 18:54 |
| luisflugel | keeperandy: mine too :) | 18:55 |
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| keeperandy | But that error looked to me like the hypervisor could not tlk to glance properly | 18:55 |
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| luisflugel | keeperandy: I'll make a detailed doc if you feel like testing xen as an hypervisor in the future | 18:55 |
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| keeperandy | joefides: I don't use openstack-service myself, I made aliases for bouncing services in my openrc | 18:56 |
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| joefides | If I just manually bounced them, is it best to do it in the same order as what's in the script? | 18:57 |
| luisflugel | keeperandy: lab's hyperviso doesnt have python-glanceclient | 18:57 |
| keeperandy | luisflugel: we are focused on KVM since it integrates so well with Ceph, if Xen ever gets past being experimental with Ceph I'll be interested! | 18:57 |
| joefides | or does it matter? | 18:57 |
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| luisflugel | keeperandy: I use to love xen, but that's prior citrix got his dirty hands on it :P | 18:58 |
| keeperandy | joefides: You can manually bounce them, the only one I like to be careful about in terms of order of ops is Neutron's OVS L2 plugin | 18:58 |
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| keeperandy | joefides: stand by and I'll pastebin my openrc | 18:59 |
| joefides | I'm seeing this (wonder if this is my issue) : mysqld: dead (disabled on boot) | 19:00 |
| keeperandy | joefides: http://paste.openstack.org/show/115051/ | 19:00 |
| joefides | However, I can log into mysql just fine | 19:00 |
| luisflugel | keeperandy: we'll test xen and kvm with ceph too | 19:00 |
| luisflugel | I'm lloking forward to that | 19:00 |
| keeperandy | If your drive is full, maybe MySQL is crapping out? | 19:00 |
| keeperandy | I use PostgreSQL, so I'm not sure | 19:00 |
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| keeperandy | luisflugel: I tried once recently, but with Oracle's spin on xen and it didn't like it | 19:01 |
| keeperandy | luisflugel: haven't tried with the community code | 19:01 |
| joefides | It's not any longer (the drive). And I can log in. | 19:02 |
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| joefides | Thanks for the other paste | 19:02 |
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| luisflugel | keeperandy: what do you mean by "spin"? | 19:02 |
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| keeperandy | luisflugel: Oracle VM is based on xen, much like Oracle Linux is based on RHEL | 19:03 |
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| luisflugel | oh | 19:03 |
| joefides | keeperandy: neutron before the others or after? | 19:04 |
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| keeperandy | joefides: the first line is very handy for quickly reading openstack config files without the comments | 19:04 |
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| keeperandy | joefides: oh, I just meant I make sure to do a stop then start on the L2 daemon, you can restart the service families in any order | 19:06 |
| keeperandy | they are all independent | 19:06 |
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| keeperandy | when I tried "openstack-service restart" it went neutron, cinder, glance, keystone, nova (in that order) | 19:07 |
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| keeperandy | but it shouldn't matter as they are all meant to be self-contained and only talk to each other via their ReSTful APIs | 19:08 |
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| luisflugel | keeperandy: I found the problem: Failed to retrieve http://10.0.0.31:9292/v1/images/ad7b44ce-17d0-4dad-a8b6-cabcefa94d68 Traceback (most recent call last): File "/etc/xapi.d/plugins/glance", line 117, in _download_tarball | 19:22 |
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| luisflugel | keeperandy: that's on the xen dom0 | 19:22 |
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| keeperandy | luisflugel: you saw that after trying to use python-glanceclient or elsewhere when trying to launch an instance? | 19:29 |
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| luisflugel | keeperandy, as allways I created an instance at the controller | 19:29 |
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| keeperandy | https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/1206773 | 19:30 |
| keeperandy | see the last comment on that bug | 19:31 |
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| keeperandy | though that doesn't look like yours, as you have the raw IP for glance in your log... | 19:32 |
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| keeperandy | luisflugel: What is your output for glance image-list? | 19:34 |
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| luisflugel | http://pastebin.com/jvwWN2c4 | 19:35 |
| luisflugel | keeperandy: what I need to figure out is why the bloody xen is looking for the images at the compute domU and not at the controller (glance) node | 19:36 |
| keeperandy | Oh, is 10.0.0.31 DomU and not the controller? | 19:37 |
| luisflugel | keeperandy: I so tempted to workaround this with an iptables rule | 19:37 |
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| joefides | keeperandy: Thanks...things seem to be working. I did a restart of nova yesterday and things looked ok for a while and then went back to the mysql error. I'll keep investigating today and tomorrow. Thanks so much for your help. | 19:37 |
| keeperandy | joefides: cool, np | 19:38 |
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| luisflugel | keeperandy: yes, .31 is the compute domU | 19:38 |
| keeperandy | luisflugel: does your nova.conf have any values set for glance_host, glance_port, glance_protocol? | 19:38 |
| luisflugel | keeperandy: controller is .11 | 19:38 |
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| luisflugel | keeperandy: Noooooooooo!!! | 19:39 |
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| keeperandy | Try setting those and restart nova-compute | 19:40 |
| luisflugel | :P | 19:40 |
| keeperandy | glance_host = 10.0.0.11, glance_port = 9292, glance_protocol = http | 19:41 |
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| luisflugel | keeperandy: your're right and I was right | 19:41 |
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| keeperandy | luisflugel: I bet your glance_hostw as either set or defaulting to $my_ip and that is why it was doing that | 19:42 |
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| luisflugel | keeperandy: adding 'glance_host = controller' made it work, and I was right I was missing somehting | 19:42 |
| luisflugel | :P | 19:42 |
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| keeperandy | good deal | 19:42 |
| luisflugel | keeperandy: now is failing in a difeerent way, lol | 19:42 |
| keeperandy | ugh! | 19:43 |
| keeperandy | Isn't OpenStack fun?? | 19:43 |
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| luisflugel | keeperandy: no fuzz, it's what I wanted to test (how should I have to upload the images to glance) | 19:43 |
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| luisflugel | keeperandy: if you see at my last pastebin I uploaded 3 diferent 'packings' of cirros to see which one xen accepts | 19:44 |
| keeperandy | luisflugel: well from what I can tell images for Xen need to be in a specfic format | 19:44 |
| luisflugel | yes | 19:44 |
| keeperandy | qcow2 is no good | 19:44 |
| luisflugel | no | 19:44 |
| luisflugel | ovf and vhd | 19:44 |
| keeperandy | yeah | 19:45 |
| keeperandy | and those also don't work? | 19:45 |
| luisflugel | and compressed tar I beleive | 19:45 |
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| keeperandy | ok, sorry, I missed your link go by the first time I see it now | 19:45 |
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| luisflugel | dont worry | 19:46 |
| keeperandy | so when you upload an image to glance, those metadata values for "disk format" and "container format" are only for reference | 19:47 |
| luisflugel | no no | 19:47 |
| luisflugel | I mean | 19:47 |
| keeperandy | you also need to take care to convert to vhd with qemu-img | 19:47 |
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| keeperandy | you did that ? | 19:47 |
| luisflugel | the image must be a vhd packed in a ovf all that in a tar.gz | 19:47 |
| luisflugel | I'm testing that | 19:47 |
| keeperandy | oh ok | 19:47 |
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| keeperandy | yeah I've never done this either | 19:48 |
| luisflugel | convert an img to vhd it's a pain in the neck, I was lucky to found a cirros vhd image | 19:48 |
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| luisflugel | We have our site in develepment, but once it's up I'll publish what I have learned with xen, I beleive it will save some time to someone | 19:50 |
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| keeperandy | It would, I'm not seeing much thus far googling around | 19:50 |
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| luisflugel | Xen/Openstack info it's rather sparse and outdated | 19:51 |
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| luisflugel | I can tell :( | 19:51 |
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| keeperandy | luisflugel: I assume you saw this bit in the Config Guide about /boot/guest/ on Dom0? http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/config-reference/content/introduction-to-xen.html#xapi-ami-setup | 19:58 |
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| luisflugel | yes | 19:58 |
| luisflugel | I did that | 19:58 |
| luisflugel | I have soooo much to test | 19:59 |
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| luisflugel | and to document | 19:59 |
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| keeperandy | good luck, it looks like tough sledding | 20:00 |
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| luisflugel | cheers, I'm still adapting to openstack, so it keeps punishing me, and not happy with that I'm adding xen to the confusion | 20:02 |
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| luisflugel | keeperandy: it bloody works!, finally! | 20:07 |
| keeperandy | Woo! What was the final problem? | 20:08 |
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| luisflugel | the image I was using | 20:08 |
| luisflugel | I __has__ to be VHD+OVF+TAR.GZ | 20:09 |
| luisflugel | I'll try to make it work modifiyng the recipie, but I have my baseline | 20:09 |
| keeperandy | cool | 20:09 |
| luisflugel | yeah, thanks a lot for the hand | 20:09 |
| keeperandy | np, glad it is working | 20:09 |
| luisflugel | now I have to play a bit with nova and my client can have his concept Xen+Openstack installation | 20:10 |
| luisflugel | nova-network | 20:11 |
| keeperandy | If you follow through with your documentation, maybe you can contribute it back: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/redocument-xen | 20:11 |
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| luisflugel | I'll be more that proud to contribute | 20:12 |
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| keeperandy | again, good luck and I hope you're successful | 20:13 |
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| Anonymouslemming | Hi all - does anyone have a link that provides a step by step guide to setting Neutron up for a flat network as shown at http://docs.openstack.org/havana/install-guide/install/apt/content/section_use-cases-single-flat.html ? | 20:19 |
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| luisflugel | keeperandy: thanks, and you'll see me quite often here from now on | 20:20 |
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| terje | hi, I have a question, completely unrelated to openstack. | 20:37 |
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| terje | yea, so my question is.. | 20:40 |
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| terje | I have a desktop PC with 4x1G RAM sticks. I'd like to double that to 4x2G sticks but for some reason I'm told that isn't supported. | 20:41 |
| terje | any computer geeks in here know what that would be? | 20:41 |
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| lrr | terje: do you have a manual for the pc? | 20:51 |
| lrr | (assuming it's a manufacturer built and not custom) | 20:52 |
| terje | ah, that's a good question, I'm sure it's online. It's a gateway from like 2010 or so I think. | 20:52 |
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| fyb3r | gateway.... | 20:55 |
| lrr | the age also might be why | 20:55 |
| lrr | the chip might be limited to 4gb | 20:55 |
| * lrr needs more info | 20:55 | |
| fyb3r | if the OS is 32bit you cannot go over 4gb. also the mobo might be limited | 20:56 |
| lrr | not technically true ;) | 20:56 |
| lrr | (os that is) | 20:56 |
| lrr | only on MS | 20:56 |
| fyb3r | well ya lol | 20:56 |
| fyb3r | im assuming he doesnt have a gateway with linux since hes asking about RAM incompatibility | 20:56 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: The openstack-infra/config repo will be frozen for project-configuration changes starting at 00:01 UTC. If you have a pending configuration change that has not merged or is not in the queue, please see us in #openstack-infra. | 21:57 | |
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| prometheanfire | can you deploy qcow based images (stored as qcow in glance) as a raw, or sparse-raw guest in nova? | 22:14 |
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| dw | hey. doe Swift support any kind of batch GET? esems at least the python client doesn't support it, if so. would like to avoid firing off 10 requests in parallel | 23:09 |
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| notmyname | dw: swift has some support for bulk requests. let me get the docs | 23:10 |
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| notmyname | dw: swift supports bulk deletes and bulk writes (eg upload a tar[.gz] and get individual objects for everything inside it) http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/middleware.html#module-swift.common.middleware.bulk | 23:11 |
| notmyname | dw: but not for reads | 23:11 |
| notmyname | dw: can I ask you some more about your use case so I understand what you're looking for? | 23:12 |
| dw | hmm, only put and delete, it seems | 23:12 |
| notmyname | dw: what would you expect the response and status code to look like? | 23:12 |
| dw | notmyname: i'm hoping to explode a (very) large collection of zip files to deduplicate their contents, but i also need random access to their contents | 23:12 |
| notmyname | ok | 23:12 |
| dw | i can probably do it with a secondary index on the zip file contens and range requests (assuming swift supports that), but that's starting to get quite trixxy. may just fire off N http requests in parallel instead | 23:13 |
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| notmyname | dw: swift is optimized for concurrency over single-stream throughput, so doing parallel requests is probably more performant | 23:13 |
| notmyname | dw: also, swift does support range requests (including multiple ranges in a single request) | 23:14 |
| dw | makes sense. its just a pain for me to sell to the people who will maintain this code later ;) | 23:14 |
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| notmyname | dw: are you storing the contents of the zip files? as in the files inside it as objects? or are you chunking the zip files at some byte and then uploading the pieces? | 23:15 |
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| dw | presently the zips are stored intact. yet 80% of their content is often duplicated. so thinking about unziping them and renaming contents according to file hash, then storing secondary index for later reconstruction | 23:15 |
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| notmyname | dw: yeah. makes sense. have you looked at the static large object manifests to tie the individual objects together? | 23:16 |
| dw | trying to avoid implementing an entirely redunant search engine (and duplicating their contents in an entirely new index) by making it cheap to fetch their contents individually. (the search requirements are very modest) | 23:16 |
| notmyname | yeah makes sense. sounds like a cool use case | 23:17 |
| notmyname | are you using a public swift deployment or do you have your own swift deployment that you're using? | 23:17 |
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| dw | its not a challenge. current search solution requires 18 seconds (and 32mb in postgres) to complete. so even just replacing that with N ~500ms GETs and substring search, its still a huge win | 23:18 |
| dw | public swift deployment | 23:18 |
| notmyname | dw: so here's an idea | 23:19 |
| dw | and having a fixed ~1 second cost for each search query is a fair price to avoid a giant elasticsearch install (and the ops team to maintain it) | 23:19 |
| notmyname | dw: upload the parts of the zip files individually, as you're doing now | 23:19 |
| notmyname | dw: then create a static large object manifest for every zip file that was uploaded. also, if you have a list of other groups of files that you want to download together, make a manifest for them too | 23:20 |
| dw | yepyep. the manifest will probably just live in postgres, its a tiny amount of data | 23:20 |
| notmyname | dw: then, if you need access directly to the files, you've got it (and can use concurrency for throughput). but you can also do a "bulk" GET by requesting the manifest | 23:20 |
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| notmyname | dw: no, swift supports manifests | 23:21 |
| dw | oOOooh | 23:21 |
| dw | see, this is why i came here :) /me googles | 23:21 |
| notmyname | dw: the only trick is that when multiple objects are logically tied together in a manifest, their contents are concatenated in the manifest read response | 23:21 |
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| notmyname | dw: therefore you'll have to know some marker or byte offset to split the pieces apart | 23:22 |
| notmyname | dw: hmm...but your app could get the manifest contents first and then use that, since the manifest contains the content-length of the referenced objects | 23:22 |
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| dw | the manifest thing would prevent deduplication, it seems | 23:23 |
| notmyname | dw: so yeah. than. your app makes the manifests as above, but when you have a bulk GET, you request the manifest first (small) and then keep that as a local index of byte offsets for the objects | 23:23 |
| notmyname | dw: all that being said, concurrency is better than serial requests (manifests are basically serial requests). also, longer requests are harder to keep open (network issues), so trying to download eg 1TB of stuff all at once can be tricky | 23:24 |
| notmyname | dw: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/overview_large_objects.html | 23:24 |
| dw | notmyname: thanks for the pointers :) | 23:24 |
| notmyname | dw: I'm talking about static manifests, not dynamic manifests | 23:24 |
| notmyname | dw: sure. happy to help. | 23:24 |
| * notmyname wants happy and successful swift users :-) | 23:25 | |
| notmyname | dw: can you share what public swift install you're using? | 23:25 |
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| dw | hmm, actually i'm not sure. i know where our VMs are from, but that provider does not offer swift | 23:27 |
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| dw | it's in the uk, though | 23:27 |
| dw | and they have two DCs. thats all i know :) | 23:27 |
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| notmyname | dw: you said it was a public swift deployment. I was meaning as in some public hosting provider | 23:28 |
| dw | it is a public hosting provider. i just dont know which. this project has stuff from a bunch of providers | 23:28 |
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| notmyname | ah ok. so where is the swift deployment? is it your own in-house? | 23:28 |
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| dw | nope.. it's run by an external company, that bit i'm certain of | 23:29 |
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| notmyname | ok | 23:29 |
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| notmyname | that's what I'm curious about. I'm always looking to find out who's deploying swift, either internally or as a service provider | 23:30 |
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