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Joe_knock | wish I could help you KyleR | 00:11 |
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KyleR | Thanks. Not sure what to check first. I'm comparing the neutron.conf files from our production Havana cloud to determine if the lbaas settings are the same (if they are even supposed to be between versions). | 00:12 |
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Joe_knock | KyleR: is your companies primary business hosting? | 00:15 |
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Joe_knock | *primary business: hosting? | 00:15 |
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KyleR | Joe_knock No. We're a small research lab. | 00:16 |
Joe_knock | KyleR: Aah okay. I'm not too sure about how something like openshift is applicable to "self-use" scenarios. | 00:17 |
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KyleR | Joe_knock the Icehouse environment that I'm building currently will be used for development//testing. Our production environment will likely remain Havana for a while. | 00:21 |
KyleR | I should caveat, the Icehouse environment is up/running. Now I'm just working on adding functionality (ie. load balancers) etc. | 00:22 |
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Joe_knock | Are you using multiple local machines to build a 'cloud'? KyleR | 00:22 |
KyleR | Several 1Us in a standalone rack. Joe_knock | 00:23 |
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Joe_knock | Cool, KyleR | 00:23 |
KyleR | ~1000G RAM // X TB of storage | 00:23 |
nikhan | I have to build a dev environment come juno for testing the upgrade from icehouse | 00:24 |
KyleR | Yeah. Fun environment for sure. | 00:24 |
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KyleR | A lot of moving parts to OpenStack, it seems lol | 00:24 |
nikhan | i have written ansible playbooks that automate the install process so that is handy at least | 00:24 |
nikhan | took me a couple of long weeks though writing it for RDO packages from scratch | 00:24 |
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KyleR | nikhan That sounds like a lot of work. How many hours did it take, out of curiosity? | 00:25 |
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nikhan | about 30 hrs for the initial draft then incremental fixes | 00:25 |
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nikhan | and bug workarounds like automating ceph / kvm setup and so on | 00:25 |
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Joe_knock | So when attempting to install openstack, you first need to whip up all your racks/machines into a single OS version, eg. CentOS. Then you build openstack on each of them? | 00:25 |
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larsks | Joe_knock: Having a homegenous environment certainly makes life easier, yes. | 00:26 |
larsks | Although that is true for any multi-host software install... | 00:26 |
nikhan | indeed, you could mix and match but it would complicate automation of the install i guess | 00:26 |
nikhan | config files in different places, multiple packaging types and so on argh | 00:27 |
nikhan | i have just gone rhel6.5 / kvm / ceph for everything though. We run supermicro fat twins / 2u twins for each node | 00:28 |
Joe_knock | I don't get it though. After installing openstack, you can then install another OS "on top of it", to create the "cloud" ? | 00:28 |
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larsks | Joe_knock: openstack is basically a resource scheduler for virtual resources. | 00:28 |
KyleR | Nice! | 00:28 |
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Joe_knock | oh! | 00:28 |
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larsks | Among the things it can do is schedule placement of virtual servers on your real hardware...and you can run whatever os you want in those virtual servers. | 00:28 |
larsks | It also handles virtual networking, block storage, and a variety of other common infrastructure services. | 00:29 |
Joe_knock | larsks: What would KVM then be, if openstack is the scheduler? | 00:29 |
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larsks | KVM would be a hypervisor. OpenStack can work with kvm, vwmware, hyperv, xenserver... | 00:29 |
nikhan | kvm is the hypervisor which the vms run on | 00:29 |
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nikhan | that can be xen or any other number of supported hypervisors though | 00:30 |
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nikhan | kvm worked for us though which is why we used it | 00:30 |
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KyleR | kvm is what we use. | 00:30 |
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larsks | kvm is the only "group A" hypervisor: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/HypervisorSupportMatrix#Group_A | 00:30 |
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larsks | (where "group A" indicates the highest level of support and compatibility) | 00:31 |
nikhan | just think instead of using virt-manager or w/e to set up the kvms you use openstack instead. openstack also monitors resource usage, allows you to set quotas and so on | 00:31 |
KyleR | Okay, so I can reach the internal IP of the VIP from the instances and can reach the external (floating IP of the VIP) from elsewhere in the network, yet the error persists in the output of 'neutron lb-vip-list' | 00:31 |
Joe_knock | I don't like the idea of the other hypervisors that force resource sharing. You can pick up a cheap VPS knowing that you're probably being "dumped" onto a server. | 00:31 |
larsks | Joe_knock: I'm not sure what that means. If you're paying for a VPS, presumably you understand that you are sharing resources with other customers. | 00:32 |
larsks | Otherwise it would be called "colocation". | 00:32 |
nikhan | and much more expensive :v | 00:32 |
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KyleR | You can 'see' the OpenStack instances using virt-manager (from the compute node on which the instance(s)) reside | 00:33 |
KyleR | (more of a general comment relating to the kvm discussion) | 00:34 |
KyleR | lol | 00:34 |
Joe_knock | larsks: Under KVM, you are sharing a server, but your resource-usage doesn't affect others. There is another hypervisor (also popular but can't recall the name) where your RAM is shared. | 00:34 |
nikhan | i cant imagine managing 40 nodes independently with virt-manager | 00:34 |
KyleR | Nothing to do with my current lbaas issues | 00:34 |
KyleR | lol | 00:34 |
larsks | Joe_knock: Oh, with KVM, your resource usage totally affects others. | 00:34 |
KyleR | Me either. | 00:34 |
nikhan | i think id go become a gardener or something | 00:34 |
KyleR | haha | 00:34 |
KyleR | Yeah. That'd be a bummer. | 00:34 |
nikhan | they thought about asking us to use proxmox for each node | 00:34 |
nikhan | i died inside in that meeting | 00:34 |
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Joe_knock | larsks: So all that stuff about KVM users being kept away from resource strain by other users is fluff? | 00:35 |
nikhan | proxmox is fine for a stopgap with a couple of blades but for a full deployment? nope | 00:35 |
larsks | Joe_knock: KVM isn't magic. You can certainly arrange for resource limits and such, but you are sharing an actual piece of hardware. | 00:36 |
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Joe_knock | larsks: So the virtualization in KVM doesn't actually allow your RAM usage to be fixed and not affected by another user? | 00:37 |
larsks | Joe_knock: Sure, it allows it. But what about impact on disk i/o? Network bandwidth? CPU scheduling? You *can* control for all (or most) of those, but you don't get that out of the box...with pretty much anything, I think. | 00:37 |
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larsks | But all of this is somewhat orthagonal to openstack. | 00:38 |
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Joe_knock | So openstack is basically the open source version of AWS? :P | 00:39 |
larsks | Yes, exactly. | 00:39 |
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larsks | In fact, it supports AWS compatible APIs. | 00:39 |
larsks | (As well as it's own native APIs) | 00:39 |
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KyleR | Later guys. Calling it quits for tonight. | 01:07 |
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farsonic | I’m trying out the python API to boot an instance….getting an error that ther is multiple possible networks found in my setup…….which is odd as there isn’t | 03:15 |
farsonic | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=m51JCDqe | 03:15 |
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atpa8a__ | i'm sure there's an API way to --nic net-id= | 03:22 |
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farsonic | yeah | 03:27 |
farsonic | there will be | 03:27 |
farsonic | just weird that it is complaining about this when there isn’t antyhing close to matching this | 03:27 |
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farsonic | I even made a new network with a really unique name | 03:27 |
farsonic | same problem | 03:27 |
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atpa8a__ | better pass something explicit anyways... | 03:30 |
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farsonic | yeah | 03:31 |
farsonic | going to have to | 03:31 |
farsonic | just workign out how to do this | 03:32 |
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jasonsb | farsonic: i think that should work | 03:37 |
farsonic | the question is how? | 03:37 |
jasonsb | i have a snippit of code i can't find | 03:37 |
farsonic | :) | 03:38 |
jasonsb | let me see | 03:38 |
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atpa8a__ | farsonic, always better to not leave stuff like that to a chance | 03:39 |
farsonic | sure | 03:39 |
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farsonic | first time I’ve tacked the API this way | 03:39 |
farsonic | so…learning | 03:39 |
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farsonic | eeek | 03:47 |
farsonic | server = nova.servers.create(name = "cirros-bob",image=image.id,flavor=flavor.id, nics=[{'net-id': '60811dd8-4d78-4171-8f7b-f86d5a660736'}]) | 03:47 |
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farsonic | that did it | 03:48 |
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jasonsb | farsonic: im too late | 03:56 |
jasonsb | but i just found that | 03:56 |
farsonic | :) | 03:56 |
jasonsb | maybe lookup netowrk by name | 03:56 |
jasonsb | get the id | 03:56 |
jasonsb | and then stick in the dict | 03:56 |
farsonic | well, thats what I’d rather do | 03:57 |
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farsonic | if you have an example | 03:57 |
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jasonsb | i dont have | 03:58 |
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jasonsb | but maybe i can make one | 03:58 |
farsonic | no probs | 03:58 |
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jasonsb | gimme 5min | 03:58 |
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jasonsb | farsonic: it seems to work | 04:09 |
jasonsb | the way you had it | 04:10 |
jasonsb | netowrks.find(label="something") | 04:10 |
farsonic | it wouldn’t work if I did it that way | 04:10 |
farsonic | couldn’t find an exact match | 04:10 |
farsonic | which is odd…as it had little choice | 04:10 |
jasonsb | then do your servers.create(.... nics=[{'net-id': foo.id}] | 04:11 |
farsonic | yeah | 04:11 |
jasonsb | where foo = netowrks.find(..) | 04:11 |
jasonsb | works ok for me | 04:11 |
farsonic | ok | 04:11 |
farsonic | let me try that | 04:11 |
farsonic | only take a minute | 04:11 |
jasonsb | but you need to put it in a list in a dict | 04:11 |
jasonsb | otherwise looks fine | 04:12 |
farsonic | yep, thats seems to work | 04:13 |
farsonic | network = nova.networks.find(label="BOB") | 04:13 |
farsonic | >>> server = nova.servers.create(name = "cirros-bob",image = image.id,flavor = flavor.id, nics=[{'net-id': network.id}]) | 04:13 |
farsonic | how would I specfiy multiple nics there | 04:13 |
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farsonic | just repeat net-id | 04:13 |
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jasonsb | i don't think i have an example of that but i think you would just repeat it | 04:15 |
farsonic | yeah | 04:17 |
farsonic | guessing so | 04:17 |
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farsonic | thanks though…much appreciated | 04:18 |
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atpa8a__ | where're the ubuntu image minimum requirements?.. | 04:39 |
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cpg | so, i screwed up and declared an image “x86-64” instead of “x86_64” … | 09:41 |
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cpg | but i cannot change it by editing an image properties in horizon | 09:41 |
cpg | any way to change this without having to re-download these images? | 09:41 |
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Ile | cpg, CLI is your friend | 09:53 |
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cpg | Ile: is that in a conf file or mysql? | 09:53 |
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Ile | you can edit images with glance command line commands | 09:56 |
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Ile | i'd think glance image-update command would help | 09:56 |
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cpg | Ile: i managed to get that going. thanks much! | 10:09 |
cpg | i can boot a centos image. though it does not see any hard drive while installing … hmm | 10:10 |
cpg | any ideas on that? | 10:10 |
cpg | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/364883/Screenshots/_ibc.png | 10:11 |
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dcdamien | hi guys, i have an issue with openstack, on the compute node running only nova-compute and neutron-plugin-openvswitch-agent i have iptables rule: | 10:29 |
dcdamien | -A nova-network-PREROUTING -d 169.254.169.254/32 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination 10.0.37.231:8775 | 10:29 |
dcdamien | this rule makes my metadata server unrechable because ip 10.0.37.231 is wrong, this address is local ip of compute node and i need to change it to address of nova-controller. | 10:29 |
dcdamien | I know that i can change this rule by iptables command but i am wondering source of this rule, where it comes from. | 10:29 |
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jpena | dcdamien: check the value for nova_metadata_ip in /etc/neutron/metadata_agent.ini, it should be there | 10:50 |
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cpg | hi, when a new instance is launched, doesn’t the volume (say a 20GB drive) get created automatically? | 10:51 |
cpg | i tried to install centos, but the volume was not created | 10:52 |
dcdamien | in /etc/neutron/metadata_agent.ini i have nova_metadata_ip = 10.0.37.226 | 10:53 |
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cpg | i cannot seem to attach an image after an instance is created | 10:56 |
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cpg | even after stopping the instance | 10:56 |
cpg | a bug? | 10:56 |
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Qlawy | Can I use my hmm... admin network as external network? | 12:16 |
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Qlawy | in neutron | 12:16 |
Qlawy | maybe management network is better name for it | 12:17 |
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atpa8a__ | wth?... cannot login into ubuntu instance... | 12:50 |
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atpa8a__ | Permission denied (publickey). | 12:51 |
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eflynn | I keep getting ImportError: No module named pbr.version, does anyone know why | 13:06 |
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eflynn | this is from installing keystone from source | 13:06 |
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pcn | So, I've gotten eflynn you need to install its dependencies as well | 13:09 |
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eflynn | I did “python setup.py install” like the instructions said | 13:09 |
pcn | Try "pip install ." | 13:09 |
pcn | Or possibly "pip install . --upgrade" since you've already installed it | 13:10 |
eflynn | pcn: should i do that instead of “python setup.py install”, or before | 13:10 |
pcn | Running "python setup.py install" only installs the package defined in that setup.py, and doesn't install depndencies. | 13:11 |
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eflynn | pcn: i c | 13:11 |
pcn | If you use pip, it should make setup.py un-necessary, and should run all of the necessary steps | 13:11 |
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eflynn | pcn: ok cool, the docs say to use setup.py for some reason. http://docs.openstack.org/developer/keystone/installing.html#installing-from-source | 13:13 |
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pcn | The docs are probably for developers who are going to be working on openstack and who are used to chasing down their dependencies. | 13:14 |
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pcn | Or for those of us who throw our hands up and just automatically run pip | 13:14 |
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pcn | atpa8a__: did you install a pubkey in the metadata for the instance? | 13:15 |
eflynn | pcn: well thanks for the insight. i don’t know why they make it so confusing | 13:15 |
pcn | eflynn: I think that the instructions have been around for longer than the python community has been settled on setuptools with pip, so it's probably just cruft and not deliberately misleading | 13:17 |
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atpa8a__ | pcn, i specified --key when i created the instance... if that's what you mean... | 13:22 |
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atpa8a__ | --keypair | 13:22 |
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pcn | atpa8a__: yeah, if the image you used knows what to do with that (has cloud-init or similar) that should work | 13:29 |
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atpa8a__ | that's what i was thinking... | 13:30 |
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atpa8a__ | there were errors when instantiating... re the image trying to access some URLs | 13:31 |
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eflynn | pcn: what is a paste file | 13:34 |
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pcn | eflynn: I'm not sure, what's the context for your question? | 13:50 |
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geaaru | hi, is it possible resize a volume with partition ? I just now execute a copy of an existing volume with less size to a new volume with a different size | 13:59 |
geaaru | but I see always less size with fdisk | 13:59 |
geaaru | thanks in advance for any suggestions | 13:59 |
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pcn | geaaru: if it's linux, see what the size of the volume looks like according to fdisk? | 14:06 |
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pcn | If it's got extra space in the new volume, use the appropriate commands (e.g. lvm commands, or resize2fs, or whatever is appropriate to the filesystem/volume/etc) | 14:12 |
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atpa8a__ | pcn, standard ubuntu image... | 14:20 |
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atpa8a__ | may be i grabbed a wrong cloud image?.. | 14:22 |
Sam-I-Am | howdy | 14:22 |
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atpa8a__ | morning | 14:24 |
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KyleR | Anyone else getting an 'ERROR' state when adding a VIP to a load balancer in Icehouse? | 14:33 |
KyleR | The lbaas logs show a warning for "stat socket not found for pool" but nothing else. | 14:34 |
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KyleR | The VIP has both public/private IPs (which are reachable from their respective networks). | 14:34 |
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ZC | is there something magical i need to do to get horizon/nova capable of managing VLAN networks? | 14:40 |
Sam-I-Am | ZC: i... dont think so. | 14:41 |
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ZC | i stood up a single-machine stack using ubuntu's cloud installer.. cant get it to put a VM on my trunked (vlan capable) network | 14:41 |
ZC | no place in horizon to even manage vlans, etc | 14:42 |
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dcdamien | you can specify vlan range to use with in neutron ml2 plugin and openvswitch plugin | 14:43 |
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ZC | dcdamien: you went way over my head there.. can you boil that down a little so i know where to begin looking | 14:43 |
ZC | i am looking at horizon gui, can that be done in there somewhere? | 14:44 |
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dcdamien | no, you can't manage vlan's through horizon | 14:45 |
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dcdamien | please explain your vlan usecase | 14:45 |
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atpa8a__ | ZC, i didn't have any luck with vlans and all-in-one... had to create two vlan interfaces on the physical, then a bridge on each, then a flat network on each bridge | 14:46 |
dcdamien | is vlan used to connect to external network? | 14:46 |
ZC | dcdamien: i am setting up a PoC openstack enviroment to test the replacement of a traditional VM system (oracle vm), so in this case, we have groups/departments that need to have completely isolated communication, and have VLANs to do that. I need to be able to have instances on different VLAN's within our network | 14:47 |
DHE | but the vlans have to be accessible from outside the cloud environment, right? | 14:47 |
DHE | (I actually am trying the same thing) | 14:47 |
ZC | right, they are existing VLANs on a corporate network | 14:47 |
ZC | because there will an are phyical things already on these vlans that will need to talk to instances on nova, sharing same vlan | 14:48 |
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DHE | I'm trying the same thing. My model is a bit messy and it's waiting on a new switch to replace the old GRE configuration. | 14:48 |
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ZC | my enviroment is directly connected to Nexus 7k switches | 14:49 |
ZC | 10GB | 14:49 |
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ZC | im starting to think an all-in-one actually creates more problems than if I were to just find hardware | 14:51 |
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dcdamien | check this out: https://developer.rackspace.com/blog/neutron-networking-vlan-provider-networks/ | 14:52 |
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dcdamien | think like provider is your departament | 14:53 |
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ZC | checking it out | 14:55 |
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Sam-I-Am | zul: ping | 14:55 |
dcdamien | DHE, i recommend to you use of VXLAN instead of replacing switches | 14:55 |
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zul | Sam-I-Am: hi | 14:55 |
DHE | I disagree | 14:55 |
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DHE | Also the current switch is a dumb Netgear thing so it needs replacement anyway | 14:56 |
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Sam-I-Am | zul: should the ubuntu neutron packages depend on 'ipset' for juno? | 14:56 |
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zul | Sam-I-Am: what are you seeing? | 14:56 |
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ZC | dcdamien: in your opionon, do think openstack is equiped to replace a traditional enterprise virtalization enviroment? | 14:57 |
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Sam-I-Am | zul: seems like neutron wants to use ipset now for better security group rule management. | 14:58 |
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dcdamien | DHE, anyway, running VLANs for Openstack internal networks requires manual creating VLANs on switches unless you have Juniper or other enterprise switch with ml2 plugin from vendor that manages VLANs in automagic way. | 14:58 |
zul | Sam-I-Am: can you open up a bug in launchpad please? | 14:58 |
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Sam-I-Am | zul: under which project? | 14:59 |
DHE | dcdamien: We're looking at either automatic integration or just making a thousand vlans ahead of time. Also we want to be able to bring vlans in from the rest of the network and direct to switch seems best | 14:59 |
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zul | Sam-I-Am: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/neutron | 15:00 |
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pcn | Only in IT is 10 years with constantly changing names and APIs a "tradition" | 15:00 |
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Sam-I-Am | zul: k, thx | 15:01 |
terje | if you are wanting to get guest networks isolated via VLAN | 15:01 |
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terje | that match something already deployed | 15:01 |
terje | you need to configure your switches which connect to the compute nodes | 15:01 |
terje | to trunk the same VLAN's | 15:01 |
terje | and also | 15:02 |
terje | configure neutron's ovs plugin to assign guests in that range. | 15:02 |
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terje | s/guests/guest networks/ | 15:02 |
Sam-I-Am | ml2 plug-in :) | 15:02 |
terje | this is now we are doign it. | 15:02 |
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pcn | Sam-I-Am: ml2 didn't work for me with vxlan without also configuring both the ml2 and openvswitch plugin | 15:03 |
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Sam-I-Am | pcn: what? | 15:05 |
Sam-I-Am | openvswitch... agent maybe? | 15:05 |
ZC | anyone know the minimum HW nodes id need to use MAAS to stand up a basic openstack enviroment that can run instances? | 15:05 |
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geaaru | pcn: sorry for delay on reply. ok thank you very much for support | 15:08 |
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pcn | Sam-I-Am: to get openvswitch working with vxlan conf files for ml2 and for openvswitch need to be created. | 15:09 |
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Sam-I-Am | what version of ovs? | 15:09 |
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Sam-I-Am | zul: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/neutron/+bug/1369386 | 15:12 |
Sam-I-Am | zul: that sort of touches on the issue. people are aware of it, at least. | 15:12 |
zul | Sam-I-Am: cool thanks | 15:12 |
Sam-I-Am | not sure its worth filing another bug since neutron works without ipset, but the default config directive to use ipset breaks things. | 15:12 |
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atpa8a__ | hmm | 15:13 |
Sam-I-Am | zul: i can probably work around it in the install guide by telling people to install 'ipset' on their network/compute nodes | 15:13 |
atpa8a__ | wth is wrong with this... Permission denied (publickey).?.. | 15:14 |
Sam-I-Am | ssh key problem? | 15:14 |
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atpa8a__ | looks like... | 15:15 |
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KyleR | atpa8a ssh key problem | 15:17 |
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atpa8a__ | i use the correct keypair... | 15:19 |
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pcn | atpa8a__: try using the same keypair with cirros | 15:20 |
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pcn | atpa8a__: that'll let you log in from console and troubleshoot | 15:21 |
KyleR | atpa8a Strange. Which image? Have you ever been able to connect to that instance since instantiation? | 15:21 |
atpa8a__ | pcn, cirros starts and i can login... | 15:21 |
pcn | via ssh? | 15:21 |
atpa8a__ | yeah | 15:22 |
atpa8a__ | but with password | 15:22 |
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pcn | OK, then the pubkey is wrong | 15:22 |
KyleR | atpa8a since you have a console, check the settings in sshd_config? | 15:22 |
pcn | If you log in with ssh -v you should see the offer and rejection of the key | 15:22 |
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pcn | Standard ssh troubleshooting should follow - check that the key is in place, you're trying to log in as the right user, if you can open another port, then have another sshd running with debug on, say, port 2222 | 15:23 |
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pcn | Sam-I-Am: re: vxlan version I'm using icehouse | 15:24 |
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Sam-I-Am | pcn: openvswitch version you're using | 15:26 |
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atpa8a__ | KyleR, but... there's no password for ubuntu image... | 15:28 |
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KyleR | atpa8a In that case, I would just blow away the image, create a new keypair, and start over. | 15:30 |
KyleR | Nothig on the machine anyway | 15:30 |
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KyleR | Granted, I only use RHEL/CentOS cloud images, but my typical order of operations is to log in once with the key, become root, change the root password, change the sshd_config to allow root authentication/password authentication. | 15:33 |
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KyleR | Obviously the aforementioned example won't help you currently though atpa8a | 15:34 |
KyleR | atpa8a Was the key used for injection in your Ubuntu image used successfully previously or was this a newly generated keypair? | 15:35 |
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atpa8a__ | i remember there was a way to enable password for ubuntu images.. | 15:37 |
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larsks | atpa8a__: can you boot a cirros image and have it configured for ssh login? this is a could test case, because the cirros images also permit password login by default so you can diagnose things... | 15:38 |
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larsks | s/could/good/ --> /me needs coffee, apparently. | 15:38 |
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atpa8a__ | larsks, you mean just put the key in authorized_keys in cirros image?.. i can do that | 15:38 |
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larsks | atpa8a__: no... | 15:39 |
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larsks | atpa8a__: I mean, boot a cirros image with --key-name <yourkey>, and see if it gets configured correctly. | 15:39 |
larsks | If not, log in with a password and diagnose... | 15:39 |
larsks | If yes, the problem is with your ubuntu image rather than with your openstack environment. | 15:39 |
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atpa8a__ | i've already cirros image running without a problem... | 15:41 |
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atpa8a__ | cirros is always asking for password... | 15:47 |
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KyleR | atpa8a have you been able to use your current keypair successfully with other images? (or other instances build with the ubuntu image)? | 16:07 |
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lcurtis | hello all...question...if i only have 2 port nic on blade server, could i install ovs on compute nodes so i can segregate traffic better amongst management/api traffic , etc? | 16:16 |
lcurtis | was thinking of using other port for storage network | 16:16 |
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terje | just seperate it via VLAN | 16:24 |
terje | create like, eth0.100 for storage traffic | 16:24 |
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pcn | Sam-I-Am: 2.1.something (debian stable) and 2.3.0 (self-built). I don't believe that's where the situation lies though. | 16:37 |
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Sam-I-Am | pcn: supposedly there are some issues with vxlan and ovs 2.0.x, so i was wondering. | 16:38 |
Sam-I-Am | there's also kernel version issues with vxlan | 16:39 |
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pcn | The vxlan part works fine with 2.3.0. The detail I was mentioning was the need for multiple configurations (e.g. you can't just put vxlan conf into ml2_conf.ini, also need it in ../openvswitch/ovs_neutron_plugin.ini | 16:42 |
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pcn | Which I assume is because there's another agent/something involved as well as just ml2 | 16:42 |
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puiterwijk | hi, there's an issue since yesterday where some apps on openshift got errors where curl was unable to get the ca cert list. I fixed this on two apps yesterday by restarting them, but now openstack.redhat.com is also hit by this bug | 16:43 |
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Fetch | I've got an instance that is missing its /var/lib/nova/instances entry as well as libvirt definition. So basically it's just an entry in a database at this point. Is there an effective way to remove it from mysql? Using nova delete fails because compute tries and fails to delete ovs ports / virsh instances / etc | 16:44 |
Sam-I-Am | pcn: you shouldnt need ovs_neutron_plugin.ini | 16:44 |
Sam-I-Am | pcn: thats the defunct ovs plugin config file | 16:44 |
puiterwijk | sorry, wrong channel. | 16:45 |
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Fetch | eh nevermind, found https://github.com/koaps/nullstack/blob/master/rundeck/scripts/nova and stole the truncate/delete/update statements from it | 16:51 |
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pcn | Sam-I-Am: In Icehouse it's needed. | 17:02 |
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DHE | if I turn a snapshot into a new volume, said new volume has no dependency on the snapshot, correct? | 17:04 |
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digitalbit | Hello everyone ! I've red a lot about this amazing openstack ... but there is this one thing missing from my idea (architecture) ... How I build the openstack ? on top of what ? Hypervisor ? bare metal ? Openstack is a Vmware virtual machine ? Can someone light me up please ! Thanks | 19:48 |
DHE | openstack runs on bare metal and will invoke your existing hypervisor. for example on centos 6 you would install libvirt to provide KVM virtualization and openstack would use that | 19:48 |
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med_ | digitalbit, yes, what DHE said, you install a distro (Ubuntu say) and then it will be DEFAULT use the native VM code (typically kvm on Linux) but you can configure and trigger to use other Hypervisors. | 19:50 |
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med_ | the hypervisor is not "IN" openstack, openstack refers to one that you have selected (and defaults to qemu-kvm via libvirt on Linuxes.) | 19:50 |
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DHE | some people use Xen. (I've been hoping to make LXC a reality...) | 19:51 |
digitalbit | med_, so the VM can access the hypervisor below (datastores and port groups) | 19:51 |
med_ | lxc also works | 19:51 |
DHE | not the libvirt version | 19:51 |
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med_ | no, if you want to access something like VSphere stuff there is a lot more work (one liner answers like this don't apply) | 19:52 |
med_ | DHE, IIRC LXC has been functional in some form for 3 years now. | 19:52 |
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DHE | med_: yes, I saw it in the documentation. but I prefer the LXC standalone project over the libvirt implementation.. | 19:53 |
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DHE | anyway, that's not something I want to talk about right now so let's drop that | 19:53 |
med_ | heh. good call. | 19:53 |
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digitalbit | DHE, Sorry but if a create a VM to install the openstack (with centos) ... will the openstack be able to access whats below (hypervisor)? | 19:56 |
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med_ | You can have nested VMs but the above had no access to below. The nesting does allow better performance than falling back to pure qemu | 19:56 |
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DHE | in the case of centos (with KVM) openstack will be able to access the VM using the tools KVM/libvirt ship with | 19:57 |
med_ | Ie, you can run devstack inside a VM. That's a good place to "investigate" | 19:57 |
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digitalbit | DHE, let's say Vmware esxi ... that's what I work with ! installing a VM with centos and KVM features I'm able to work with my hosts and datastores? | 20:01 |
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med_ | nope. | 20:05 |
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med_ | you need to read about how to work with ESXi and OpenStack. Non-trivial. | 20:05 |
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