Tuesday, 2014-10-14

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Sam-I-Amlarsks: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=115235001:23
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ravargsIs it possible to add a vnic to running instance through horizon on the fly?01:38
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TonyZhaohi02:14
TonyZhao is anyone here02:14
jasonsbsure02:15
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TonyZhaohow study openstack02:15
TonyZhaothe module is so many02:15
TonyZhaodoes have some lession?02:16
TonyZhaoshare me ,tks02:16
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jasonsbTonyZhao: what kinds of things are you interested in?02:34
jasonsbwant to just try it out?02:34
jasonsbdevstack and ask questions here02:34
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GwysHi all ! I've a problem when adding my first network with the following command : nova network-create demo-net --bridge br100 --multi-host T   --fixed-range-v4 10.1.119.20/24 ... But it seem to wait for something ... I've no output and the command don't stop07:31
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GwysI don't see any timeout07:31
Gwyssomeone can help me ?07:32
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GwysI've this message after few min : ERROR: The server has either erred or is incapable of performing the requested operation. (HTTP 500)07:35
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leongthe neutron node keep crashing if I did a "yum update" from guest OS RHEL6.5, the yum is configured behind http proxy. Anyone encounter similar issue?11:13
leongi'm using RDO Icehouse11:14
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linux-uzerhi, does anybody know why we need amqp in keystone?12:03
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txomon|fonis it alright to use openstack in 1 machine? I want to test for the labs team a openstack setup, and for the moment just have 1 machine available, the idea is to add more physical machines later if this works as expected12:12
txomon|fonmy concern is about where to place openstack controller12:12
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txomon|fonhttp://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/install-guide/install/apt/content/ch_overview.html speaks about 3 nodes, and even 2, but 1 node is not mentioned.12:13
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txomon|fonbtw, you have two spammers here, queorgullo and tursee12:14
brandor5txomon|fon: one node installations are possible. Devstack and packstack do these by default. They are more for testing/demoing openstack, though. If you plan on doing anything production, multiple nodes would be preferred12:14
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txomon|fonthey pm me12:14
Ile/ignore works12:14
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txomon|fonIle, yeah, but I was thinking on banning, anyway will do it12:15
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txomon|fonbrandor5, the idea is to start with one node, and then start expanding the nodes12:17
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txomon|fonI don't know if openstack supports controller and services reallocation12:17
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brandor5txomon|fon: you would just have to update config scripts/end points, but at that point you have lots of cruft left around12:18
txomon|fonwhat do you mean?12:18
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brandor5I wouldn't want hypervisor junk left on my controller12:19
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txomon|fonI had thought about having openstack controller be managed by openstack...12:20
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txomon|fonat the end, you need some way to replicate your controller, don't you?12:22
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brandor5how do you expect to have openstack manage your controller node? You don't have openstack without a controller12:23
brandor5unless you have one stack manage another stacks controller12:23
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txomon|fonwell, the idea was to first install openstack in a machine, full open stack (all services)12:24
txomon|fonand the move one by one the services to VMs created by openstack12:24
txomon|fonso at the end, you would have all in one12:24
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brandor5that seems like a lot of headache for little if any gain, but I suppose you could do that12:26
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ravargsHello stakers, trying to get some help here on vlan trunked ports to the instance.15:46
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ravargsappreciate any hints on this15:47
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nittianyone run into this when deploying the enovance neutron-l3-healthcheck agent? https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/131381215:48
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BinSlashBashhi guys, is allowed questions here?16:05
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_Joshua_ask away, BinSlashBash :)16:12
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is_nullhi all, is it normal that in configuration files, sometimes i have auth_uri=http://foo:5000/v2.0 and sometimes auth_uri=http://foo:5000/ ?16:41
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Sam-I-Amis_null: they should all be /v2.016:41
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is_nullAmen, thanks Sam-I-Am16:41
Sam-I-Ami think i just fixed one of those in the install guide16:41
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jro1hi16:43
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jro1Im trying to use the create volume API16:43
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jro1https://github.com/fog/fog/blob/master/lib/fog/openstack/requests/volume/create_volume.rb16:43
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jro1but when I look for the services, I just see16:44
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jro1compute16:44
jro1identity16:44
jro1shouldnt I see a volume service also?16:44
jro1sorry Im new to openstack and development16:44
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Sam-I-Amwhat do you mean look for services?16:44
jro1puts Fog::OpenStack.services16:44
jro1I can create a volume using this16:45
jro1volume = compute.create_volume("test-volume","snaptovol",20, "da5e5085-db75-4b0b-90fd-c82e887f4a1a")16:45
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jro1but that is using compute16:45
jro1not openstack/requests/volume/create_volume.rb16:45
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jro1basically, I'm trying to snapshot an instance16:45
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jro1then convert the snapshot to a volume16:45
jro1using devstack16:45
jro1in the UI, it works, and the volume is flagged bootable16:46
jro1but through fog, it works but it is not bootable16:46
jro1I think I'm missing the link to imageref16:46
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jro1any ideas?16:49
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jro1anyone?16:54
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jro1tough crowd...16:58
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madornjro1: never used fog17:05
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jro1ok cool17:06
jro1thanks17:06
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Sam-I-Amme neither17:07
jro1bummer17:08
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skellyI'm having an issue with ML2+flat network. The first two compute nodes to come up create the netns but subsequent ones do not17:09
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Sam-I-Amcompute nodes usually dont have namespaces17:10
skellyeven in flat networks?17:10
Sam-I-Amunless youre running l3 and dhcp agents on them17:10
skellydhcp-agent is running on it17:10
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Sam-I-Amare these flat provider networks directly into the compute nodes17:11
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skellyI don't fully grok that, but I think the answer is yes17:12
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Sam-I-Ammost folks terminate provider networks at one or more network nodes, then use tenant networks out to the compute nodes17:13
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skellybut it's possible to not require network nodes, right? how do VMs get IPs then?17:15
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DHEno vlans?17:17
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skellythat can be done17:18
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skellyI have a block of IPs from the overarching datacenter network allocated for this. I would like to map those IPs as simply as possible to VMs17:19
skellypreviously, I had OpenStack use those IPs directly and allocated them to the VMs17:20
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skellyscaling beyond two compute nodes didn't work however17:20
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Sam-I-Amwhat happened beyond two compute nodes?17:20
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skellythey don't set up the netns and related infrastructure17:21
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skellyI have 172.30.192.0/21 and the pool I'm using is 172.30.196.017:21
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skelly.0 and .1 got allocated for tap interfaces, beyond that, nothing happens17:22
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skellyer, 172.30.196.0-.255 is the allocation pool17:22
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skellyCIDR is still 172.30.192.0/2117:22
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Sam-I-Amwhat is the architecture? where do the l3 agents run? is this OVS or linuxbridge?17:25
skellyOVS17:25
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skellyI don't have the l3 agent running at the moment as it didn't seem to do anything at the time17:26
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DHEthe l3 agent creates routers17:27
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BinSlashBash_Joshua_: thanks17:31
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Sam-I-Amit generally links your tenant and external (provider) networks using routers17:31
BinSlashBashis safe to use Openstack as all-in-one private cloud?17:31
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Sam-I-Ami would not run a production environment as all-in-one17:31
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Sam-I-Amtoo many points of failure and redundancy issues17:31
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Sam-I-Amhowever, for a POC its fun17:32
Sam-I-Amfine17:32
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BinSlashBashSam-I-Am: but openstack works fine in all-in-one mode?17:32
Sam-I-Amit works, sure17:32
BinSlashBashI have only one dedicated for this :(17:32
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Sam-I-AmVMs fighting control plane for resources never ends wekk17:33
Sam-I-Amwell17:33
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BinSlashBashI'm trying to install RDO, but epel repo dont like me :(17:34
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CelelibiARRRRRG18:17
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CelelibiThe stable/havana branch disappeared from the devstack git.18:17
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CelelibiWho in a great mind would do this?18:17
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clarkbCelelibi: we have done this for many releases now. We always tag the branch so the commits remain18:18
clarkbCelelibi: the intent is to show that the branch is no longer supported.18:18
CelelibiOh, there is a tag?18:19
clarkbyes18:19
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DHEcan ceilometer (telemetry) work with mysql? or is mongoDB required?18:20
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Sam-I-Ameh, long story on that one18:20
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Sam-I-Amit should have been designed to work with sql, but instead uses mongo18:20
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larsksDHE: there is support for mysql now.18:21
larsksI don't know how good it is.18:21
Sam-I-Amyou'd probably make it work easier with mongo, although ymmv with ceilometer in general18:21
larsksI'm using ceilometer without mongo, but I don't interact with it all that often.18:21
Celelibiclarkb: thanks.18:21
Sam-I-Amlarsks: does it do much?18:21
Sam-I-Amlarsks: have you seen my rdo bugs?18:21
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larsksI was using it to experiment with heat alarms and autoscaling bugs. It triggered things when I expected them to be triggered.18:22
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larsksI think so...I saw the missing dependency link you sent yesterday.18:22
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Sam-I-Amthats one of them18:23
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Sam-I-Amhttps://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=115067818:24
Sam-I-Amthats the other18:24
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larsksNoted.18:24
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CelelibiHas somone tried to deploy the havana-eol revision?18:32
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CelelibiI've had some bugs related with the very name "havana-eol" which is (apparently) not a valid version name since there is no number in it.18:33
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clarkblifeless: ^ shouldn't pbr just ignore invalid tags for versioning?18:38
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gaudIs it possible to use Floating IP with Neutron-Flat or its only possible on Nova-Flat and Neutron L3?19:01
gaudin other word,  is it absolutely necessary to use L3 to use floating IP19:01
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Sam-I-Amthe neutron L3 agent handles floating IPs19:02
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Sam-I-Amfloating IPs are used to allow external/public access to otherwise internal/tenant networks19:03
Sam-I-Amif you use provider networks, you dont need floating IPs19:03
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gaudand for LBaaS, is it also using L3 ?19:04
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Sam-I-Ami think so19:07
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gaudand If I was to use nova-network,   would I be able to use LBaaS and floating IP ?19:08
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Sam-I-Amonly neutron supports lbaas, iirc19:11
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mcr-credilare compute nodes supposed to run their own mysql?19:17
kbringardnot generally19:17
mcr-credilI would have thought that they would only talk API to the controller.19:18
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kbringardthey talk to the DB, generally over the message bus using conductor19:18
kbringardbut they don't need their own DB19:18
mcr-credilthen someone. stack.sh thinks I'm building a controller.19:18
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mcr-credilwhat are the valid values for "MULTI_HOST=" in local.conf?19:19
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mcr-credilhttp://devstack.org/guides/multinode-lab.html's example of local.conf for Compute Nodes is missing the [[local|localrc]] bit at the top.19:20
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mcr-credilis that important?19:20
mcr-credilyes, I think that it is.19:21
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eflynnwhere can i get some debian images19:22
Sam-I-Ameflynn: you can make them using suse studio19:22
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cdentjaypipes: was there final plan on where api working group stuff was going to go? the repo you created, the wiki page, somewhere else?19:49
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jaypipescdent: :) not sure! I'm more than happy to propose an openstack/openstack-api repo, sourced from that github.com repo...19:50
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cdentOkay, I thought perhaps it was still up in the air, but wasn't sure.19:50
cdentAt some point I want to get some thoughts down about testing19:50
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jaypipescdent: testing of the APIs?19:52
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cdentyes19:52
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jaypipescdent: feel free to submit a pull request with a stub topic document for that important topic :)19:53
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cdentI think there should be at least some tests, across the board for the web apis, which are written as close to HTTP requests as possible, not via a bunch of python obscured by OO other cruft19:53
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jaypipescdent: so... using curl?19:55
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cdentI've seen it done various ways, but essentialy you have a config file or sort of DSL that generates tests19:55
cdentthe important bit being that the thing that a human writes (and more importantly reads later) is HTTP19:56
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jaypipescdent: and the request and response payloads? that is where the meat of the HTTP API tests are.19:57
cdentjaypipes the upshot being that authors of apis begin to realize how stupid and cumbersome their apis are when they have to write things out longhand19:57
jaypipescdent: heh, I get that completely.19:57
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cdentI've done an implementation myself using a yaml file but I'm not sure it's enough19:58
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cdentit's good in that it is flexible, though19:58
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andrewbogottDoes anyone have experience with "nova live-migration --block-migrate" on libvirt/kvm?  The official docs imply that xen is required but I see people claiming that it works on various blogs.20:10
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jaypipescdent: I'm genuinely curious about Docker and Kubernetes... thoughts on my last response to larsks about sysadmin tasks not going away just because a container is used?20:14
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* cdent looks20:14
jaypipesandrewbogott: xen is not required, no. just a shared filesystem for instance storage20:14
annegent_andrewbogott: do log a link from the page where you see otherwise please20:14
larsksjaypipes: I think that's all part of the "containers are immutable" mindset.20:14
cdentyeah, what larsks said20:15
andrewbogottjaypipes: I'm asking about --block-migrate specifically.  It's an alternative to shared storage20:15
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cdentthere are no logfiles _in_ a container20:15
cdent(for example)20:15
larskscdent: (ideally) :)20:15
cdentI haven't had my impractical idealism crushed out of me yet.20:15
cdentThat's for later.20:16
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jaypipeslarsks: but in the case of, say, mysql... the application is writing state somewhere, no?20:16
cdentDuring the phases not that far from "hey lets do this cool thing" I like to keep it around.20:16
jaypipesdamn it, my brother is callling...20:16
jaypipesback shortly.20:16
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annegent_andrewbogott: what are the underlying API calls? That might offer a clue, use --debug on the nova command to see the API calls20:17
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andrewbogottannegent_: logged here:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/138121520:23
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annegent_thanks andrewbogott!20:44
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thedoddHow do I get_attr of a Server that is part of a ResourceGroup in a HOT???20:53
thedoddThe docs don't have any good examples of this and I am trying to no avail.20:53
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nzrfquestion regarding quota's for glance. I see it was implmented, but not seeing any where to add it other then a global value in the glance-api.conf under DEFAULT user_storage_quota Bytes is there a way to have tenant to only have x amoun tof images or bytes20:57
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nzrfand not a globaly set value as in the glance-api.conf? I am not really finding much on this and assuming there is not?20:58
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cdentjaypipes: at your leisure, https://github.com/jaypipes/openstack-api/pull/120:59
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jaypipescdent: merged. thx man!21:03
cdentwelcome21:03
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mcr-credildo I need to tell stack.sh that my compute node is running XEN, or will it figure that out itself?21:27
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mcr-credilI think that I shouldn't have to provide cinder with a password, as it has it all from local.conf, but I did set OS_PASSWORD, from the admin-openrc.sh that I got from the portal.21:44
mcr-credilhaving done that, the cinder start now tells me: ERROR: Conflict (HTTP 409) (Request-ID: req-a8141eed-f85c-472c-ad99-36999b84cacf)21:44
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mcr-credilI note that I already have an "lvmdriver-1" Volume in my controller node, according to the portal. I'm setting up my first compute-only node.21:45
mcr-credilI have "stack-volumes" LVM groups on both.21:46
mcr-credilshould I have MULTI_HOST=1 on my compute nodes?21:47
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