Friday, 2014-10-17

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RioS2anyone using ironic?00:55
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RioS2been looking to improve our baremetal provisioning for datacenter, not necessarily for openstack yet00:56
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Sam-I-Ami havent used it00:56
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clarkbRioS2: the folks in #tripleo are using it01:01
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RioS2clarkb, thanks01:02
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sbfoxHey Stackers, is there a HOT description that tells me what modifications will trigger a recreate?02:40
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atpa8ahmm02:54
atpa8ais there a good way to attach volumes unmanaged by cinder to a VM?..02:55
atpa8aor is it better to add them to cinder?02:55
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Sam-I-Amyou cant easily do that03:03
Sam-I-Amwithout fudging the db03:03
atpa8ai want to bring up my old nfs server as a vm03:04
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atpa8aas an instance03:04
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Sam-I-Amprobably best to have openstack know of things instead of doing things from underneath it03:06
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atpa8asure... so... add a vg to cinder?03:07
atpa8aproblem is cinder won't recognize the old volumes03:08
Sam-I-Amso...03:08
Sam-I-Ami suppose you could create a lv, then move its id to your 'real' lv03:09
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atpa8ai could also move the data to the new lv03:09
Sam-I-Amor that03:10
Sam-I-Amso your nfs box stores things on a single lv?03:10
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atpa8aany other options? swift?.. ceph?..03:11
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atpa8aSam-I-Am: no multiple lvs, multiple vgs03:11
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atpa8aor run nfs on my AIO... along with bacula03:20
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Sam-I-Amheh bacula03:21
atpa8abacula will probably going to have to be there anyways... i backup onto a portable harddrive03:21
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atpa8aand switch the drives once in a while03:22
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atpa8aSam-I-Am: bacula... why? i figured it out some while ago03:23
Sam-I-Ambeen a long time since i messed with bacula03:24
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atpa8aare there better alternatives nowadays? haven't looked into that stuff in ages03:24
Sam-I-Amcould back up into the cloud03:25
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atpa8adon't want public clouds...03:25
atpa8aneed to figure out how to backup my synology box without public clouds03:26
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atpa8awithout hackish solutions that is :)03:27
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Sam-I-Amhackish is more fun!03:27
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atpa8ahackish also does not improve stability :)03:28
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atpa8aOTOH... kinda like the idea that if SHTF i can just grab the drives and be off03:29
Sam-I-Amwow, that was an epic football game03:29
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atpa8aooh, did i miss it?.. was watching hockey... forgot today is football game03:30
Sam-I-Amyeah03:30
atpa8awho played?03:31
Sam-I-Ampatriots and jets03:31
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atpa8adon't tell me the jets won :)03:32
Sam-I-Amthey didnt, but almost id03:32
Sam-I-Amdid03:32
Sam-I-Amsolid game03:32
Sam-I-Amespecially against the pats03:32
atpa8awell... thye were designed to beat the pats :)03:33
atpa8abut they forgot there are other teams in the league03:33
Sam-I-Amheh03:34
atpa8ayou're a bronco fan or texans/cowboys?03:34
Sam-I-Ambroncos mostly03:35
Sam-I-Ambut mainly about good games03:35
Sam-I-Amthere are definitely teams i dont like though03:35
atpa8alike? pats?03:36
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Sam-I-Amfor one03:37
atpa8ahehe03:37
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atpa8athere're a lot of NE fans here in CT which doesn't have any major sport teams... every time i see one i want to say 18-1 :P03:38
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Sam-I-Amheh03:39
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atpa8athat was epic03:41
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atpa8asweet... just when a guy has a minute to relax, his wintendo box crashes03:52
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Sam-I-Amtime to locate my bed04:14
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anishany idea what could cause this in devstack ? ERROR: Conflict (HTTP 409) (Request-ID: req-ae292bdd-2eea-41f2-9f0d-85b92dfbf2b4)04:33
anishseeing this on cinder type-create lvmdriver-104:33
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tejuhi all...the command add-apt-repository cloud-archive:juno throws error 'juno': not a valid cloud-archive name.....how to fix this?05:34
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shane_can anyone advise when 'add-apt-repository cloud-archive:juno' will work per the openstack install guide for ubuntu trusty 14.04 LTS?08:24
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kryptohi is there a way to specify a range of vlan in nova-network so that each new tenant will be assigned to a particular vlan08:54
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tejujuno' not a valid cloud-archive name09:17
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arajparaj_hey anyone here?09:55
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arajparaj_I want to start a cloud service whic documentation i should consider?09:55
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jkthi there, we're using some custom Keystone implementation which does not pass the serviceCatalog in the tokens it issues (and we have 20+ regions, which means that we'll hit that 8k limit on header size anyway)10:28
tim_85Hi everyone, does anyone have experience running scripts at boot time using cloud-init / userdata and nova python api?10:28
jktwhich means that we havew to use a DEFAULT/cinder_endpoint_template in nova.conf, otherwise nova and cinder won't play together10:28
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jktnow I see quite some work on adding Keystone methods for requesting a standalone service catalog, and these were slotted to arrive in Juno10:29
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jktwhat I wasn't able to find are patches which actually add requests to this service catalog to e.g. nova, or even keystoenclient10:29
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PelalilWill there be a pgp key signing during the Paris summit?11:29
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ujjainCan somebody help me with http://www.stackgeek.com/guides/gettingstarted.html? If I change the network settings, then I don't have a working network anymore, right? this confuses me.11:56
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matttis there a way to skip all the XML tests in tempest ?14:08
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BLZbubbagood morning, which service provides the meta_data.json file to instances?  they end up talking to apache, which gives a 40414:54
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larsksBLZbubba: nova-api generally runs the metadata service, although in a neutron environment there is a proxy in between the instance and the actual metadata service.15:01
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ingo_kithi guys, i hope this is the right way to get an answer to my question, i am totally new to openstack and for my bachelor thesis i have to work with openstack. i used devstack to setup en dev environment in a virtual box running ubuntu server. i was able to set up everything correctly, (at least i can acces the horizon dashboard and administrate vms15:19
ingo_kit). My problem is, that everytime i reboot my vm running openstack. i am not able to access the dashboard anymore. i spend hours googling and all the fixes didn't help much. the error says something like "error occured , try again later" appearently this seems to be a problem caused by keystone which might not be running. i tried running rejoin.sh a15:19
ingo_kitnd almost everything else sb mentioned in the internet. does sb knoe how to start horizon directly, independent from the other services?15:19
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jpichingo_kit: Hey there. Devstack is a development tool that isn't meant to persist across reboots so, you'll have to run ./stack.sh again after rebooting15:20
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ingo_kitthank u i'll give it a try. that would have been nice if sb had told me this 4 days earier15:21
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_Joshua_hi guys.   i'm trying to resize my instance, and get the following error message when confirming15:59
_Joshua_ERROR: Cannot 'confirmResize' while instance is in vm_state stopped (HTTP 409) (Request-ID: req-a8eee6b8-6e3e-4819-a1d8-faee08784e2e)15:59
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_Joshua_i tried with the instance powered on and it complained about the state, so i powered off, and it complains about it being stopped15:59
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Sam-I-Amstart the instance and then confirm resize16:00
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_Joshua_ok...lemme try16:00
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_Joshua_# nova resize-confirm ln1_vmSC-116:01
_Joshua_ERROR: Cannot 'confirmResize' while instance is in vm_state active (HTTP 409) (Request-ID: req-f6fb7403-c27c-4f87-bfc2-a7eaab176072)16:01
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Sam-I-Amhmmm16:03
Sam-I-Amsomething might be configured wrong16:03
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_Joshua_when i do a nova list after resizing, should i see something different?16:03
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SamYaple1The instance should actually be in a confirmresize state16:04
Sam-I-Amyeah16:04
_Joshua_it's still in ACTIVE tate.  i guess the resize didn't happen for some reason16:05
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SamYaple1*correction, it should be in a "Resize" state (yes even if you migrated it)16:05
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SamYaple1your instance may not have been resized, or it was autoconfirmed16:06
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SamYaple1I think there was some talk about making autoconfirm default, what version is this?16:06
_Joshua_icehouse16:07
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_Joshua_doesn't seem to be autoconfirmed.  horizon still shows old RAM size16:07
SamYaple1Shouldnt be default in Icehouse. Did you confirm the instance actually resized?16:07
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SamYaple1Ah yea, so it never actually resize. How many hosts do you have?16:07
_Joshua_216:07
SamYaple1Resize should move the instance from one host to the other (unless resize same host is set to true). Did it move?16:08
_Joshua_oh....i wasn't aware it would from one host to another.  i didn't pay attention to that16:08
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SamYaple1By default it will, you may have set that option I was talking about to true16:09
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SamYaple1"allow_resize_same_host" in nova.conf16:09
_Joshua_let me check that parameter16:09
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_Joshua_allow_resize_to_same_host=True16:09
SamYaple1Ok so it shouldnt move. But it is not in any resize state. I would try the resize op again16:10
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_Joshua_sorry..got d/c16:15
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_Joshua_looked at the nova log and saw this:16:16
_Joshua_<182>Oct 17 16:11:01 node-60 nova-nova.filters INFO: Filter RamFilter returned 0 hosts16:16
_Joshua_<180>Oct 17 16:11:01 node-60 nova-nova.scheduler.utils WARNING: Failed to compute_task_migrate_server: No valid host was found.16:16
_Joshua_Traceback (most recent call last):16:16
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_Joshua_i think i will just recreate the instance with the new flavor  lol  thought it'd be faster to just resize16:17
SamYaple1Do you have enough ram available on the hosts to resize?16:17
_Joshua_:$16:18
_Joshua_bingo!16:18
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_Joshua_need another host16:18
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_Joshua_thanks SamYaple1.  now i feel stupid16:18
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SamYaple1Not a problem. Happens to the best of us16:19
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_Joshua_the most obvious thing to check...hehehe16:19
Sam-I-Amheh16:19
Sam-I-Amalways something :)16:19
_Joshua_yup.true dat! :)16:19
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_Joshua_do you know if whether or not if will automatically move to the new host with sufficient ram if i have that parameter set?16:23
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skaIf someone where to write a monitoring tool for neutron, what would be the minimum expected features?16:25
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Sam-I-Amhow many networks a tenant has and their usage16:26
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skaWhat about failure modes?16:27
Sam-I-Amability to feed info to netflow-like systems is nice16:27
skaok.. I'll let you finish ;)16:28
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Sam-I-Amwould be nice to see if neutron parts crap out16:29
Sam-I-Amor otherwise become slow16:29
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SamYaple1_Joshua_: It will move to a new host16:30
SamYaple1that param just gives it the option to schedule to the same host16:30
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skaSam-I-Am: Are there any free tools for NetFlow analysis that you use?16:31
_Joshua_thanks SamYaple116:31
Sam-I-Amnothing particular, but a lot of people have existing flow-type monitoring systems16:32
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georgem2_Joshua_:you can increase the ram_allocation_ratio16:33
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_Joshua_georgem2: i'm not aware of that parameter.  i could always try that.  is that in nova.conf?16:34
georgem2http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/config-reference/content/list-of-compute-config-options.html16:34
skaSam-I-Am: NetFlow data format is a standard I can expect to be cross-compatible?16:34
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Sam-I-Amska: there are a couple of variants out there16:35
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_Joshua_georgem2: thanks.  let me check that out16:35
Sam-I-Amnetflow and sflow are the two most common i think16:35
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skaSam-I-Am: can I pm you for a moment?16:37
Sam-I-Amuh, ok.16:38
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banaanHey16:46
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skaSam-I-Am: Thanks for the info.. very helpful.16:47
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th3rtIs it possible to modify the nova (or neutron) policy.json to allow non-admin tenants to boot on the external network?16:48
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Sam-I-Amth3rt: sure16:49
Sam-I-Amyou can have a tenant own an external network too16:50
th3rtSam-I-Am,  but only if it is an admin tenant,  right?16:50
Sam-I-Amnot necessarily16:50
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th3rtI want non-admin tenants and users to be able to boot from the external network16:50
Sam-I-Amtheres really no limitations as to who can do what in openstack16:51
th3rt... the current external network was created by the admin tenant16:51
Sam-I-Amjust a set of sane defaults16:51
skaSam-I-Am: If you think of anything else, let me know ;)16:51
Sam-I-Amska: sure. there's always something else. you usually in here?16:51
Sam-I-Amska: i'm interested in the progress16:51
th3rtDo you have any idea which setting in policy.json I'd add the new role to so that instance booted by non-admin users can boot on the external network?16:52
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skaSam-I-Am: if not here, i'm in ##pfsense16:54
Sam-I-Amska: ah, ok16:54
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Sam-I-Amth3rt: what happens if you boot an instance with it now?16:54
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th3rtERROR (Forbidden): It is not allowed to create an interface on external network 31e09d38-15c3-469f-87c5-35a6eb50acfc (HTTP 403) (Request-ID: req-90c59447-e5be-424a-b413-186d00448786)16:55
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Sam-I-Amdid you make it as a shared network?16:55
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th3rtYes16:55
_Joshua_just to let you guys know....resize is working for me now.  I will have to verify the ram_allocation_ratio later on.16:56
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Sam-I-Amhow are you trying to launch the instance?16:56
georgem2I don't think you can attach an instance directly to the external network16:56
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Sam-I-Amyou can with provider networks16:57
Sam-I-Amthere might be a conceptual problem here16:57
Sam-I-Amlike... goals16:57
Sam-I-Amgenerally speaking, you create tenant networks and their routers are allowed by default to attach to the external network16:58
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Sam-I-Amif you do not want tenant networks, you can create one or more provider networks for each tenant in lieu of the external network16:59
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th3rtOk.  I think that may be what I need.  I don't want tenant networks.16:59
th3rtor "private" tenant networks16:59
th3rtrather16:59
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Sam-I-Amyeah, provider networks17:01
th3rtSam-I-Am,  let me repeat what I think you said.  If I don't want private tenant networks,  I'll need to create a "stub" provider network with no subnet that has a router connected to the external network?17:01
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Sam-I-Amif you dont need tenant networks, you probably dont need a router either17:02
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Sam-I-Amprovider networks generally assume something outside of neutron will handle routing17:03
Sam-I-Amor can17:03
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th3rtSam-I-Am,  I think I found the answer to my problem.  It looks like the current ubuntu 14.04 packages may not be updated to allow policy-based provider (and external) network access.17:31
th3rthttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nova/+bug/128471817:31
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th3rthttps://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/135210217:31
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th3rtI installed from the packages availabled for 14.04 in the repos17:32
th3rtand they aren't patched17:32
th3rtI tried a provider network and I got the same error... 403 forbidden when using a non-admin tenant17:32
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Sam-I-Amwho owns the provider network?17:35
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th3rtThe admin tenant17:35
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Sam-I-Amyou could try making the non-admin tenant own it17:36
th3rtSure17:36
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th3rtOne moment17:37
Sam-I-Amis this on icehouse?17:37
Sam-I-Amseems like the bug references a change for juno17:37
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th3rtSam-I-Am:  Running this command returns a 403 when using a tenant with only the _member_ role.  net-create test-ext --router:external True --provider:network_type flat --provider:physical_network flat --shared17:39
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Sam-I-Amcreate it as the admin user, but use --tenant-id to change the owner to the non-admin tenant17:41
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th3rtSam-I-Am:  I was able to create it with the non-admin tenant as the owner (using tenant-id),  but when I try to boot an instance in the newly created network using --nic net-id=$NETID,  I get the same 403 error17:45
th3rt*clarification* I created it using the admin tenant,  but specified the non-admin tenant as the owner like you instructed17:46
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Sam-I-Amhmmm17:47
Sam-I-Ami dont know17:47
Sam-I-Amcould be that policy thing17:47
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th3rtYeah,  I don't know how to navigate the policy files yet... ports, interfaces, magic unicorns... they are all the same ;-)17:47
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mrmartinannegentle: hi, do you know about an official documentation for devstack deployment?17:49
Sam-I-Amth3rt: there's a section about creating ports17:50
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th3rtSam-I-Am, I'll go poke around at the policy files.   I appreciate the help.  I may just settle for a private network for tenants with floating IPs.17:53
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abcdhi17:56
abcdLaunch an instance:            nova boot myserver --image some-image --flavor 217:56
abcdwhere will the data store for this instance?17:56
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Sam-I-Amabcd: compute node where it runs17:57
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th3rtabcd,  the instance files live on the compute node that the instance is assigned to in /var/lib/nova/instances/$INSTANCE_UUID/17:57
th3rtOr what Sam-I-Am said...17:57
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abcdthanks17:59
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abcdhow will it get connected to the OS image?18:02
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abcdwill each instance points to the original image?18:03
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abcdor will there be OS image cache created for each instance18:03
abcd?18:03
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th3rtabcd,  I'm a bit rusty on how that works,  but basically the compute node downloads the "base" image for each image that was in use on that node. on a compute node.18:04
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th3rtYou could have 10 instances all using one image and there would only be one base image.18:04
abcddo you know where in compute node the image is stored?18:05
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th3rtLook in the instance directory that I shared above and you'll find a path to it in libvirt.xml18:05
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th3rtI don't remember what it's called,  but it's a super long directory with a crazy name.18:05
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abcdlibvirt.xml doesnt say anything about the imgae18:13
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abcdit just source file="/var/lib/nova/instances/8a0103c3-30df-484e-9594-03539ffa2e92/disk"18:13
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th3rtabcd,  if you want to pastebin the libvirt.xml I'll take a look.18:15
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th3rtIt's in there.18:15
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th3rtLook for "base" instead of "image"18:15
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abcdnothing with base18:21
abcdi cannot copy as we have to access servers from citrix , no copy allowed18:22
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th3rtabcd,  I was wrong,  it's not in libvirt.xml18:25
th3rtin the instance directory (where libvirt.xml and other files are)18:25
th3rtrun18:25
th3rt qemu-img info disk18:25
th3rtThat will give you the disk backing file18:25
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_Joshua_georgem2: seems like the ratio worked.  Even after adding 2 more hosts, with 1.5 ratio, it managed to only use 2/4 hosts :)18:27
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abcdwhat does this folder /var/lib/nova/instances/_base contains?18:27
SamYaple1abcd: your base glance images18:27
SamYaple1the ones that have launched on that host18:27
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SamYaple1essentially a cahce18:28
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dmitchellre taskflow, is DTClient more than vaporware? I can't seem to find it.18:38
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dmitchellin particular, I'm referencing https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/DistributedTaskManagement18:40
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abcdthanks18:41
abcdthis was helpful18:41
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th3rtabcd,  sure thing.18:41
shane_can anyone advise when 'add-apt-repository cloud-archive:juno' will work per the openstack install guide for ubuntu trusty 14.04 LTS?18:42
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SamYaple1shane_: Juno was just released, I would think soon18:43
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SamYaple1packing takes a few days18:43
Sam-I-Amshane_: you can use the PPA18:44
Sam-I-Ambut it probably only has rc2 packages now18:44
Sam-I-Ami'd have to go look18:44
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SamYaple1Sam-I-Am: thats juno-staging, juno doesnt exist yet18:45
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Sam-I-Amyeah18:45
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SamYaple1It looks like its in trusty-updates, not cloud-archive18:47
Sam-I-Amoh?18:50
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Sam-I-Amgot a linky?18:50
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SamYaple1http://ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/juno/main/18:50
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SamYaple1Ah they are merging them it seems.18:51
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Sam-I-Amwonder if i need to update the install guide's location18:56
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SamYaple1Sam-I-Am: I think i remember hearing they were no longer going to maintian a seperate repo for cloud-arhive moving forward, but I cant seem to find that stated anywhere18:59
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leakypipesContributors interested in Nova RPC layer: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/obh-nova-rpc-layer19:04
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leakypipesOpenStack Bootstrapping Hour currently on air!19:04
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th3rtCan anyone tell me if auto assigning floating IPs with icehouse and neutron is possible?21:05
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_Joshua_th3rt: isn't floating IPs automatically assigned by default?21:28
_Joshua_ohhh....sorry....i misunderstood21:28
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shane__how would i enable the repository at http://ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/juno/ ?21:37
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shane__ive tried adding it to sources.list but it doesnt seem to be parsing it properly21:37
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shane__nevermind, got that working. anyone know if those are release package or beta/rc?21:40
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Sam-I-Amshane__: what version numbers do the packages indicate?21:49
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shane__2014.321:50
th3rt_Joshua_,  yeah... I'm using neutron21:51
shane__Setting up keystone (1:2014.2-0ubuntu1~cloud0)21:51
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shane__.2 sorry21:51
th3rtI'm not sure what doing a nova-manage floating create would do to the neutron subnet21:51
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Sam-I-Amshane__: that should be juno then21:53
Sam-I-Amshane__: what did you use for the repo config?21:53
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shane__i added "deb http://ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu trusty-updates juno/main" to the sources.list file and ran apt-get update21:54
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Sam-I-Ammmmkay21:54
shane__not sure if this is the correct way to do it21:54
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Sam-I-Amthey must not have updated the shortcut yet21:56
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shane__but i am assuming (hopefully not incorrectly) that these are the ready builds and not proposed/release candidate or anything based on them being in trusty-updates21:56
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Sam-I-Amif they're not available by the shortcut, they're somehow not official yet... but they are juno release, not a beta/rc of juno.21:57
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shane__cool, thanks21:57
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MentalRaySomeone knows on average how long it take RDO to packages a New Release?22:03
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Sam-I-Amcould be another few days at least22:05
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mimizoneanyone knowing any pre-made RAM only image templates? meaning an instance that would use no disk at all.22:32
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