Tuesday, 2014-12-23

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modulexploitedis it possible to install Openstack on a Xen Server ? Possible, I mean - is there a better way or setting it up any other way ?00:43
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thesanchez2Is it normal for metadata (neutron) to return 404’s to cloud-init?01:34
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dgbaleyWhere in the database is it stored that a volume has been marked for deletion with its instance?02:44
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dgbaleyI'd like to change the marking on an instnace02:44
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jongwoohhello03:52
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hypnosbso, I managed to regex my way to changing all installed ip to a hostname04:01
hypnosbfrom a packstack install04:01
hypnosbfeel pretty good about it04:01
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hypnosbI thought i could use the regexp_replace() in mysql for endpoints but the installed mariadb ver didn't have it, so i dumped endpoints, regex'd and reloaded it04:02
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jwitkohey guys, I'm having a hard time understanding how Swift's storage works.  I was hoping to make use of my netapp for the backend storage but I can't even seem to understand if swift is using a backend storage05:40
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jwitkoanyone have a free moment to help me understand?05:40
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_etseems like keystone considers 'cn' in LDAP for the unique user ID.07:32
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_etshouldn't it be uid?07:32
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xmjgood morning08:19
xmjhow does openstack preseed Hostname/IP address/Root SSH keys on different operating systems?08:19
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sahilhi everyone...i am a newbie to openstack08:37
sahilneed info about it's working ..where to go?08:38
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arykleinI wanna use LBaaS in my cloud. I followed this guide: http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/install_neutron-lbaas-agent.html. Where should it be installed neutron-lbaas-agent? In the controller node, in the network node, in the compute node or should it be installed on all node?13:30
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arykleinI've only installed on network node but when I try to use it on horizon, a message pop it up: "Error: Unable to retrieve pools list."13:31
arykleinso I thing my problem is that I don't have it configured in the controller node. is it right?13:32
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Sam-I-Amyou have to enable the service everywhere13:37
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jaypipesmadhuri_: hi :)13:47
madhuri_Hi jaypipes13:47
madhuri_:)13:47
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jaypipesmadhuri_: ok, so try to start your nova-compute with debug=True on, and paste the output of the logs on startup.13:47
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madhuri_Ok sure13:48
madhuri_I will not be able to paste it now. So can you please give me some other hints that might the problem13:49
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madhuri_jaypipes: Just to check the rabbitmq connectivity, I tried starting the service commenting out the pre_start_hook.Surprisingly it was able to update its status at the controller node.13:55
jaypipesinteresrting13:55
madhuri_So it should not be the issue of rabbitmq connectivity.13:56
jaypipesOK, well that means the rabbit settings are fine.13:56
jaypipeswhich version of Nova are you running, BTW?13:56
madhuri_Juno.13:56
madhuri_Like I have question here13:56
madhuri_Compute node with other code base can run with controller node of Juno code base?13:57
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madhuri_Sorry Controller node is Juno and Compute node is Icehouse13:58
jaypipesmadhuri_: *controller with >Juno* can work with *compute nodes <=Juno* (not the other way around)13:58
jaypipesmadhuri_: yes, that works.13:59
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madhuri_Havana compute node will also work with Juno, that means13:59
jaypipesmadhuri_: hmm, I *think* it will work -- but you should do an upgrade of your havana compute nodes to juno ASAP.14:00
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jaypipesmadhuri_: the support for controllers working with older compute nodes is intended to allow rolling upgrades, not intended to allow you to run old compute nodes forever! :)14:01
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madhuri_Ok.14:03
madhuri_Thanks jaypipes in tonnes14:03
madhuri_Any other thing I need to take care of?14:04
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jaypipesmadhuri_: nope, I don't think so.14:05
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madhuri_Ok thanks jaypipes :)14:05
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arykleinSam-I-Am: when you say "enable" you mean install or just configure?14:55
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Sam-I-Amaryklein: its already part of neutron, but you need to enable it and then do any additional configuration14:57
Sam-I-Amin general, your neutron configuration is the same across all nodes (minus network specifics like openvswitch bridges)14:57
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arykleinSam-I-Am: ok now it works. I add it to config file but in the network node I've installed the "neutron-lbaas-agent" package14:58
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Sam-I-Amsome things have additional packages i guess14:58
Sam-I-Amdont remember them all (usually additional agents)14:59
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arykleinSam-I-Am: thanks for the advice :)15:00
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plattaI'm going through the (Icehouse) install guide, and I'm finding that I have to populate my dns servers by hand, where the guide seems to expect name resolution to just work. Wondering if I could be missing something?15:28
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plattaNew to OpenStack, btw, just trying to get my feet wet.15:28
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Sam-I-Amthe install guide expects that you know how to make name resolution work in your particular environment15:30
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Sam-I-Amit could be hosts files or dns15:30
Sam-I-Amas long as it works15:30
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plattaOk cool, wanted to make sure it wasn't a sign that something wasn't right. Thank you!15:31
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Sam-I-Amsure15:33
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Sam-I-Amnot sure why you're installing icehouse15:33
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Sam-I-Amjuno would be the preferred version and the installation guide is better with it too15:33
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plattaIt was the first guide I found my way to. I didn't realize Juno existed until I was already halfway through.15:33
plattaI'll probably scrap everything and restart with Juno after I'm done :)15:34
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Sam-I-Amplatta: that works. google sometimes picks up older docs. the latest ones are at docs.openstack.org15:35
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dtrainorI'm trying to verify connectivity as suggested in http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/install-guide/install/yum/content/neutron_initial-networks-verify.html, and things don't seem to work.  The start of the floating range is 172.16.12.100, so I'd expect to be able to ping 172.16.12.101, right?17:09
Sam-I-Am100 probably17:09
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dtrainorCan't ping that one either17:22
dtrainorI'm trying from external to my lab though, but that range is still routable on my network17:22
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dtrainor"the tenant router gateway should occupy the lowest IP address in the floating IP address range"17:23
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Sam-I-Amdtrainor: where is your l3 agent running?17:24
dtrainoron my network node17:25
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Sam-I-Amwhats 'ip netns' say?17:25
dtrainor'neutron agent-list' can be trusted for that info, right?17:25
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dtrainoron the network node?17:25
dtrainoron the network node, qrouter-6a15b881-4d86-4849-8396-ed9200452a2917:25
Sam-I-Amyeah and yeah17:25
Sam-I-Amis this real hardware or vms?17:25
dtrainorreal hardware17:25
Sam-I-Amtry 'ip netns exec qrouter-6a15b881-4d86-4849-8396-ed9200452a29 ip a' and look for that .100 IP17:26
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dtrainoroh right17:26
Sam-I-Amif it exists, try to ping it from within the namespace17:26
dtrainorok, one sec17:27
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dtrainorI can ping it within the netns17:27
Sam-I-Amthats good17:27
dtrainorer, within the namespace17:27
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Sam-I-Amcan you ping it from the network node itself?17:28
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dtrainorI cannot, no.17:28
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Sam-I-Amis anything else on that network?17:28
Sam-I-Amlike... a router or another machine17:28
dtrainori think something else is going on, i can't ping what should be the gateway of that network17:28
Sam-I-Amif so, can you ping it from inside the ns17:28
Sam-I-Amdid you attach the right physical interface to br-ex?17:29
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dtrainorlet me check the l3 switch real quick, I think it's misconfigured.17:29
Sam-I-Amdid you edit sysctl.conf ?17:29
dtrainoryes, yes17:29
dtrainoryea, i see where it's broken, hrm17:30
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dtrainorthe IP range I wanted to use for that external network needs to be on a tagged interface17:30
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dtrainorWell, this should be fun.17:32
Sam-I-Amhowso?17:32
dtrainortwo different problems, of each I only know about 50% of what I think I need to know in order to understand them properly17:32
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dtrainorAm I going to run in to issues if I use tagged interfaces for each the tunnel, external, and internal networks?17:32
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dtrainorI don't have ideal hardware, where ideal is > 1 NIC17:33
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Sam-I-Amdepends17:34
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dtrainorwhat comes to mind?17:35
Sam-I-Amyou can create logical tagged interfaces on linux and bind br-ex to them17:35
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Sam-I-Ambr-ex doesnt care what the underlying interface is17:35
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Sam-I-Amyour traffic would be tagged by the logical interface and passed to the switch, but openstack still sees it as a flat network17:35
dtrainoryep, that's what i'm getting at17:35
dtrainoryep17:35
Sam-I-Amyour other option is creating a vlan provider network17:36
dtrainorI'd like the former route17:36
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dtrainorWhen  you say "openstack still sees it as a flat network", which network of OpenStack sees that?17:37
Sam-I-Amthe external network17:37
Sam-I-Amit doesnt know that br-ex has a port on a tagged interface17:37
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dtrainorright, it wouldn't17:52
dtrainori'll work on that.  thanks again for the good troubleshooting info.17:52
Sam-I-Amsure17:52
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dtrainorSo controllers should have two interfaces, compute nodes should have two interfaces, network nodes should have 317:55
dtrainorRepresenting internal traffic, public traffic, and vm traffic17:56
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mnaserdtrainor: yes18:02
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mnaserbut that's a reference architecture, you can do it other ways too18:02
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Sam-I-Amtheres really no limits to how you configure openstack18:03
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Sam-I-Amthe installation guide uses that architecture primarily to provide separation of services that you would see in a production environment and also to ease troubleshooting18:04
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jdcaddieIs anyone using FC storage backend with a cinder block storage server? If so what driver are you using to present to the cluster nodes?18:22
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sss_hi everyone18:25
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sss_any one working on cinder service18:26
sss_??18:26
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jdcaddiesss_, Im in the planning phase of my block storage setup18:27
sss_any one working on cinder?18:27
sss_hi jdcaddie18:28
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sss_i am having a openstack setup of  controller compute and cinder as seprate node18:29
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sss_after adding the cinder node to the controller18:30
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sss_by default without any lvm backends, volume is creating18:30
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sss_when i mentioned about the backend type in cinder.conf of cinder node, not able to create volume. In cinder scheduler logs error message as "no valid host found and no weighed host"18:32
sss_any one facing the same problem?18:32
sss_please let me know18:32
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sss_hi ranger8118:33
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sss_hi achanda18:33
sss_hi blair18:33
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sss_i am having a openstack setup of  controller compute and cinder as seprate node, after adding the cinder node to the controller, by default without any lvm backends, volume is creating, when i mentioned about the backend type in cinder.conf of cinder node, not able to create volume. In cinder scheduler logs error message as "no valid host found and no weighed host"18:34
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dtrainorI understand there's no limit - but at least until I get better with the configuration, I'd like to be able to say "I'm using this semi-standard network" when someone asks "What does your network look like" haha18:38
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dtrainorhttp://docs.openstack.org/openstack-ops/content/example_architecture.html , which of those networks would represent where GRE Tunneling happens under "Figure 1.1. Basic node deployment"?  "VM Traffic Network"?18:44
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dtrainorAlso, from the same diagram, any problem with "Public Network" and "OpenStack Internal Network" being the same actual network?18:47
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KimiAdtrainor: yes, gre tunnels should be in VM traffic network18:58
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KimiAand the problem having public and internal networks sharing same physical network is security18:59
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KimiAI think that by default all the management traffic is not encrypted18:59
jasonsbdtrainor: i guess VM traffic is the red network19:00
jasonsbdtrainor: http://docs.openstack.org/openstack-ops/content/example_architecture.html#vm_network19:00
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dtrainorright, thank you both.19:03
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dtrainorNot worried about security right this second, I just want to learn the internals better.  But definitely a future consideration, thanks19:04
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KimiAdtrainor: of course if your just building test setup, you can even run all traffic over single network.19:05
dtrainorI would like that for simplicity, but this is also a big learning exercise19:05
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dtrainorSoooo I'm going to fake it with VLANs19:08
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KimiAif you have network equipment that is capale of understanding VLANs, then i would use those even in a simple tes setup19:08
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dtrainorAll the systems are plugged in to an old 3550 yea19:08
dtrainorThat's why I'm saying I think it would be easy to just tag interfaces19:08
KimiAyeah, in my opinion that's a good way to start.19:09
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dtrainorcool.  thanks!19:10
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dtrainorDo you guys using VLANs find it better/easier/whatever to tag a default interface rather than use the interface bare and have the switch default non-tagged traffic?19:30
dtrainorIf anything it would just boil down to convention and whatever standard your organization wanted, right?19:30
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Sam-I-Amdtrainor: when i ran production networks, nothing was untagged19:47
Sam-I-Amexcept a few corner cases19:47
dtrainorSo, emN.<xx> would always be your primary interface?19:47
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Sam-I-Ami didnt tag at the host level19:50
Sam-I-Amunless there was a reason for it19:50
Sam-I-Amwasnt sure that was what you meant19:50
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Sam-I-Amnon-endpoint connectivity was always tagged19:50
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Sam-I-Ambasically once it got into the switch port19:51
dtrainori got ya19:51
Sam-I-Amso, with neutron, you're essentially expanding your switching and routing infrastructure into your hosts19:51
dtrainoryea that's what i was asking, thank you19:51
dtrainorright19:51
Sam-I-Amwhich means only instances should see untagged interfaces19:51
dtrainoruntagged because that traffic is already encapsulated?19:52
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Sam-I-Amuntagged because vms are the new 'hosts'19:52
dtrainorright19:53
dtrainorthe traffic is internal to those hosts19:53
dtrainorwell - internal to those hosts and the "vm network"19:53
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dtrainororrrr inside a namespace, i'll need to see it in action19:53
dtrainorre: internal, external, public networks, is that where the different keystone endpoints come in to play?19:54
Sam-I-Amnot really19:54
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Sam-I-Amkeystone endpoints are for api access. there's public, admin, and internal. they can all be the same thing, but in a prod environment you'd probably want to separate public and lock it down a bit.19:54
dtrainorah ok19:55
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Sam-I-Amnetworks... external networks connect to physical networks19:55
dtrainorright19:55
Sam-I-Amtenant networks are purely virtual and connect to instances19:55
Sam-I-Amhowever, you can run provider networks to just about anything.19:55
Sam-I-Amprovider networks are basically external networks19:56
dtrainorok19:56
dtrainorwould i ever expect a tenant network to be routable outside of... anything?19:57
dtrainorI don't know what question to ask specifically, sorry - can I expect to connect to a tenant network from somewhere else?19:58
Sam-I-Amjust internally among other tenant networks belonging to the same tenant19:58
dtrainorah ha19:58
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Sam-I-Amthe idea of tenant networks is that they're isolated to a tenant. tenants can do what they want including overlap IPs with other tenant networks (different tenants) and not cause any problems.19:59
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dtrainori see20:01
dtrainorok.20:01
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mongo_dtrainor: provider networks are still "tenant networks" but can be shared and externally routed.  Performance and avaliblity is much higher on provider networks in neutron because you do not dependant on the l3 agent as a SPOF20:48
mongo_if the entire controller system goes down VMs will be live until their DHCP fails and is released.20:48
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mongo_The cost being that provider networks, especially vlan based ones run into vlan numbering limits.20:49
Sam-I-Amlots of new network gear supports vxlan termination20:51
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dtrainorunderstood20:57
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dtrainoralright, I'm almost where I want to be with VLANs.21:02
dtrainorThis should help me understand and implement things better.21:02
dtrainorI was looking for a map/diagram that talks about exactly what kind of traffic goes over which interface - internal, vm, and external21:03
dtrainorwhich openstack services talk to which other services yada yada21:03
Sam-I-Amthere is a diagram for that somewhere, but its rather overwhelming.21:04
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dtrainorI'm sure it is.  Though I wanted a better idea of what kind of traffic is considered in each of those groups, just for my understanding21:05
dtrainor"vm traffic" isn't good enough, ya know?  i want to know specifically, what kind of vm traffic21:06
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Sam-I-Amif you have tunnels, all of it goes over the internal/tunnels interface21:07
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Sam-I-Amthe external interface is only used for provider/external networks21:07
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