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| Sam-I-Am | MrCurious: wireless might be weird because i dont think you can manufacture mac addresses on it | 00:04 |
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| MrCurious | i did it with icechouse... | 00:05 |
| MrCurious | sadly i just didnt preserve the secret sauce | 00:05 |
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| Sam-I-Am | oh, then maybe it works | 00:05 |
| MrCurious | wonder if the icehouse install docs are still up | 00:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | its a wireless driver thing typically | 00:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | yes | 00:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | icehouse and juno are up | 00:05 |
| MrCurious | there was secret saucce in teh comments | 00:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | the networking stuff is a bit more clear in the juno docs | 00:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | imho | 00:06 |
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| MrCurious | i THINK i am missing this You will need to have net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1 in /etc/sysctl.conf too. | 00:08 |
| DHE | it might be possible to use wifi on a bridge with no WPA encryption. maybe. otherwise it only works if the card is in AP (Master) mode. | 00:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | you need that on any node handling external network traffic for VMs | 00:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | typically the network node, but on an AIO, its the AIO box :) | 00:09 |
| MrCurious | i have had it working all in one with wlan0 the gateway to the outside, and vm's reachable on internal wifi net | 00:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i cant remember if its a standard that prevents mac manufacturing with most wifi, hardware limitations on some cards, or driver issues | 00:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | i've had laptops where i can't use VMs on virtualbox in bridge mode with wifi | 00:12 |
| MrCurious | hmmm, i am trying on a different laptop than before... that could be it | 00:13 |
| MrCurious | sent in the hint for how to do all in one on icehouse, and the doc master sent back a NOBODY needs this... rejeccted :( | 00:14 |
| MrCurious | sadly, now I need it :) | 00:14 |
| ahhhhh | So can you combine multiple cinder installs to make a giant pool of space or do I just use gluster to do that hten mount the gluster? | 00:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | MrCurious: do you remember where you sent these notes? | 00:15 |
| ahhhhh | Like is there a cinder block node setup like the compute node | 00:15 |
| ahhhhh | does adding a compute node add its harddrive space? | 00:15 |
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| MrCurious | going to check sent mail | 00:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | you can run cinder-volume on compute nodes, or standlone nodes. | 00:15 |
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| Sam-I-Am | cinder can serve a lot of different kinds of storage including nfs iirc | 00:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | so its pretty wide open | 00:15 |
| ahhhhh | and if multiple ones are running it the controller node can figure it out? | 00:15 |
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| Sam-I-Am | each cinder-volume checks in with the controller to register itself | 00:16 |
| ahhhhh | ok then the controller node aggregates the space? | 00:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | you can use 'cinder service-list' to see what it knows about | 00:16 |
| ahhhhh | thank you | 00:16 |
| ahhhhh | theer is so much to learn, i feel like this not just new stuff but also challenging my linux knowledge :) | 00:16 |
| MrCurious | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1311475 | 00:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | it does not necessarily aggregate the space. | 00:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | in other words, you cant slice a 100 gig disk from 10 nodes with 10 gigs available on each | 00:17 |
| ahhhhh | yeah i see | 00:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | however, you can schedule where you want to slice space from | 00:17 |
| ahhhhh | thanks for the clarification | 00:17 |
| MrCurious | there we go, theres the missing secret sauce | 00:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | MrCurious: is this with nova or neutron? | 00:18 |
| MrCurious | nova... | 00:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think i see whats going on there | 00:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | you're using nat as a workaround for the wifi bridge issue | 00:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | gotta run for a bit, dinner time | 00:18 |
| MrCurious | i believe so | 00:18 |
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| alpha255 | kinda quiet in here | 04:47 |
| alpha255 | I’m stuck on the install from this page … http://docs.openstack.org/juno/install-guide/install/yum/content/keystone-install.html | 04:48 |
| alpha255 | this is on a cenos7 vm running in virtual box on a mac | 04:49 |
| alpha255 | i’m getting “invalid OpenStack Identity credentials” | 04:49 |
| alpha255 | error | 04:49 |
| alpha255 | the log file shows WARNING … the request you have made requires authenticaton | 04:50 |
| alpha255 | maybe a second set of eyes could shed some light on this | 04:51 |
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| alpha255 | is this step needed ? openstack-db --init --service keystone | 04:57 |
| alpha255 | for Juno? | 04:57 |
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| MrCurious | is there a way to make openstack create new instances using a cinder vilume by default/ | 05:06 |
| MrCurious | volume | 05:06 |
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| MrCurious | instead of creating them in var/lib/nova/instances/ | 05:07 |
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| alpha255 | once I get past my keystone setup, i’ll take a look :) | 05:14 |
| MrCurious | heh :) | 05:14 |
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| alpha255 | i’m stuck right now on the keystone config | 05:15 |
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| * alpha255 must be missing someting | 05:15 | |
| alpha255 | in the install | 05:15 |
| MrCurious | step 3 identity service? | 05:16 |
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| MrCurious | so THATS what that button does | 05:16 |
| MrCurious | step 3, identity servicec | 05:17 |
| MrCurious | that was strait forward copy-paste exerise | 05:17 |
| alpha255 | yes, http://docs.openstack.org/juno/install-guide/install/yum/content/keystone-install.html | 05:17 |
| alpha255 | ya, I’m not feeling particulary smart right now | 05:17 |
| MrCurious | pro-tip... make a dd backup of your linux partition between steps, to speed going back and fixing mistakes | 05:17 |
| alpha255 | yep | 05:18 |
| alpha255 | snapshots in virtual box work well too | 05:18 |
| alpha255 | standard out is saying “INvalid OpenStack Identity credentials” | 05:18 |
| MrCurious | to what command | 05:19 |
| MrCurious | did you sourcec admin-openrc.sh | 05:19 |
| alpha255 | keystone tenant-create -name admin —descripton “Admin Tenant” | 05:19 |
| alpha255 | looking | 05:19 |
| MrCurious | did you do the two exports | 05:20 |
| MrCurious | sounds like your admin_token is not set or set wrong | 05:20 |
| alpha255 | yep, admin_token = ADMIN_TOKEN was changed to | 05:21 |
| MrCurious | export IS_SERVICE_TOKEN=secretkey | 05:22 |
| MrCurious | s/IS/OS | 05:22 |
| alpha255 | ahh | 05:22 |
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| alpha255 | bingo | 05:25 |
| alpha255 | thnx | 05:25 |
| alpha255 | i hadn’t change the env for ADMIN_TOKEN after updating it | 05:25 |
| alpha255 | in the conf file | 05:26 |
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| alpha255 | doh! | 05:26 |
| MrCurious | dont set that one in the conf file | 05:26 |
| MrCurious | that one stays as a one off per directions of install guide i think | 05:26 |
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| alpha255 | ok | 05:29 |
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| alpha255 | mrcurios: thnks :) | 05:45 |
| alpha255 | i’m working my way through the rest of the install | 05:46 |
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| alpha255 | for the admin-openrc.sh file … i just create it right? | 05:57 |
| alpha255 | vi admin-openrc.sh ? | 05:57 |
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| alpha255 | can anyone get to this site? | 06:54 |
| alpha255 | http://cdn.download.cirros-cloud.net/0.3.3/cirros-0.3.3-x86_64-disk.img | 06:54 |
| * alpha255 smacks my forhead …. http://download.cirros-cloud.net/0.3.3/cirros-0.3.3-x86_64-disk.img is working | 06:55 | |
| alpha255 | step 2 on this page http://docs.openstack.org/juno/install-guide/install/yum/content/glance-verify.html might need to b updated | 06:56 |
| alpha255 | overall the docs are very good though… my hat’s off to the folks who worked on the docs :) | 06:56 |
| alpha255 | thank you! :) | 06:56 |
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| SamYaple | alpha255: I am able to access http://cdn.download.cirros-cloud.net/0.3.3/cirros-0.3.3-x86_64-disk.img | 08:07 |
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| alpha255 | ok cool | 08:07 |
| alpha255 | with wget i remove the cdn and it worked | 08:07 |
| alpha255 | but that was a while ago | 08:08 |
| alpha255 | thnx for checking :) | 08:08 |
| alpha255 | i’m working on the nova install | 08:08 |
| alpha255 | part | 08:08 |
| SamYaple | Yea its cool. I was checking to see if I would need to update the docs for that, but since it appears to be working... | 08:08 |
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| MrCurious | i wonder why i see my cinder-volumes as only having 57G available when it has 139g - 40g available | 08:49 |
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| MrCurious | cinder quota-show reports 139g. wonder why horizon is saying 57g | 08:53 |
| MrCurious | admin/system/hypervisors is reporting incorrect disk usage | 08:54 |
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| SamYaple | MrCurious: I believe horizon is reporting freespace of the compute node. I dont think there is a mechnism for horizon to know how much space is left on a cinder storage host | 09:03 |
| MrCurious | its on teh same machine | 09:03 |
| MrCurious | and it isnt the free space... that number doesnt match up | 09:03 |
| MrCurious | may have something to do with nova.conf being wrong, and still using a sqlite db rather than mysql | 09:04 |
| SamYaple | MrCurious: no its probably not that. The stats have always been difficult to grasp what it is saying | 09:05 |
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| SamYaple | it reports how much unallocated space you have on the compute node, that won't match the available space from df | 09:05 |
| SamYaple | it will be the ammount of space available if all of your instances were using 100% of the disk space | 09:06 |
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| MrCurious | but i am creating the instances using volumes | 09:07 |
| MrCurious | verified with kvpm to show only 2*20 out of 139 were used | 09:07 |
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| MrCurious | oh well. its a wrap for the night, i fried a sqllite db file and i need to reset the install to repair it | 09:08 |
| SamYaple | Even when booting from volume, if your flavor has a disk amount (it almost certainly does) then the instance would still be able to use that as ephemeral storage | 09:08 |
| SamYaple | so that counts against the total | 09:08 |
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| MrCurious | so that has to do with /var/nova/images? | 09:09 |
| MrCurious | hmmmm | 09:10 |
| SamYaple | /var/lib/nova/instances/ is where is stores the data for the instance | 09:10 |
| SamYaple | by default that is | 09:10 |
| MrCurious | i will have to check and see if it is creating a file for the instance like it does when i create an instancce without using a volume | 09:10 |
| SamYaple | even if it doesn't, those stats are calculated from DB stuff | 09:11 |
| MrCurious | could just be i have to mod the flavors to remove that non volume disk requirement | 09:11 |
| SamYaple | so the database would still have a record of it | 09:11 |
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| SamYaple | You can do that if you don't need ephmeral storage. | 09:11 |
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| SamYaple | Would require you to always boot from volume though | 09:12 |
| MrCurious | so if i create an instance on a volume... which creates a new 20G volume in cinder-volumes lvm2 | 09:12 |
| MrCurious | i am really using disk elsewhere? | 09:12 |
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| SamYaple | No. it will clone the glance image to the volume. That is what you will boot off of. Additionally, if the flavor as any amount of disk space, that is also attached to the instance (for example at /dev/vdb) | 09:13 |
| MrCurious | so i guess i got mislead by creating instances on volumes and didnt realize that using a volume does not mitigate the requirement to have another 20g of ephemeral invisible disk on the compute filesystem | 09:13 |
| SamYaple | Unless you drop that from the flavor size | 09:14 |
| MrCurious | yes, i have it using dev/vda | 09:14 |
| MrCurious | i think that will be a good next step once the restore completes | 09:14 |
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| MrCurious | still need to work out why nova is using a sqllitedb rather than mysql... | 09:17 |
| SamYaple | you have to configure that in your nova.conf | 09:18 |
| MrCurious | i did connection = .... | 09:18 |
| SamYaple | in the database section? | 09:19 |
| MrCurious | could be i did it wrong | 09:19 |
| MrCurious | wasnt a database section | 09:19 |
| SamYaple | yea you have to create it | 09:19 |
| MrCurious | guess i need to add a database section | 09:19 |
| SamYaple | if you do it in the default section it has to be named "sql_connection =" | 09:19 |
| MrCurious | in that case... i will just change it to sql_connection | 09:19 |
| SamYaple | sql_connection has been deprecated since grizzly I believe | 09:19 |
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| MrCurious | i see where i made the mistake now :) | 09:28 |
| MrCurious | yeah. i am convinced the admin / hyperviors disk usage is wrong | 09:36 |
| MrCurious | 57g is more than i have on my compute root fs | 09:36 |
| MrCurious | and less than i have in teh cinder-volumes | 09:36 |
| SamYaple | I know the sats can get screwed up, but I have never on new databases and never more resources, always less | 09:37 |
| SamYaple | are you sure you dont have a crazy allocation ration? | 09:38 |
| SamYaple | I think it defaults to 2 on the diskss | 09:38 |
| MrCurious | m1.small has 20g root, 0 ephemeral, 0 swap | 09:38 |
| MrCurious | where would the allocation ration be set? | 09:38 |
| SamYaple | nova.conf | 09:38 |
| MrCurious | hmmm i dont see it at all | 09:39 |
| MrCurious | guess i need to beg the keyword from you so i can look it up | 09:39 |
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| SamYaple | nah if its not there it appears to default to 1, so that wouldn't be it | 09:40 |
| SamYaple | disk_allocation_ratio_opt = cfg.FloatOpt("disk_allocation_ratio", default=1.0, | 09:40 |
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| mzbik | Hi, what is neutron strategy when assignin IP? Nova-network was assigning first available, neutron seems to use some kind of round-robin? | 09:43 |
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| MrCurious | odd hypervisor is showing as qemy, even though i think i have it set to kvm | 09:46 |
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| SamYaple | mzbik: It assigns in order until it gets to the end of the allocation pool, then starts again | 09:46 |
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| SamYaple | MrCurious: qemu is correct. KVM is only extentions for qemu. qemu is still the hypervisor | 09:47 |
| MrCurious | ok | 09:47 |
| MrCurious | phew | 09:47 |
| MrCurious | rabbit-hole avoided | 09:47 |
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| mzbik | SamYaple, tnx :) | 09:48 |
| SamYaple | mzbik: anytime as always, you can explictly assign an ipaddress when booting if needed | 09:48 |
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| mzbik | SamYaple, yeah I know, just was curious how "DHCP assigning" works | 09:49 |
| SamYaple | good deal | 09:49 |
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| MrCurious | SamYaple: i think i sorted it... pvdisplay shows total PE as 55819 which is close enough that i suspect my cinder-volumes must not be contigous... | 10:11 |
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| SamYaple | MrCurious: No, that free space you are seeing has nothing to do with cinder | 10:19 |
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| MrCurious | well shoot | 10:21 |
| MrCurious | well i am at a loss for where that 57 is coming from, or how to over-ride it | 10:22 |
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| SamYaple | Ignoring that number, whats the problem? | 10:23 |
| MrCurious | i cant create > 2 instances of size 20g | 10:23 |
| SamYaple | what is are the specse of the flavor you are launching then with? | 10:24 |
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| mzbik | I have strange problem on kilo (but it might be version independent) | 10:27 |
| mzbik | Im spawning VM | 10:27 |
| mzbik | and it hangs | 10:27 |
| mzbik | nova-compute state changes to down | 10:28 |
| mzbik | 2015-01-02 11:26:41.355 16055 DEBUG nova.virt.disk.vfs.api [-] Using primary VFSGuestFS instance_for_image /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/nova/virt/disk/vfs/api.py:50 | 10:28 |
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| MrCurious | nova.compute_nodes.free_disk_gb is incorrect | 10:29 |
| SamYaple | mzbik: I dont know about the compute hanging and all that, but you can disable that injection by putting "inject_partition=-2" in the "[libvirt]" section of nova.conf | 10:30 |
| SamYaple | I researched why a longtime ago, but I have since forgotten | 10:30 |
| SamYaple | MrCurious: How is it incorrect? | 10:30 |
| mzbik | SamYaple, will try, had -1 | 10:31 |
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| SamYaple | I really should look up why that is again. Its one of the few options i specify in my configs that I dont understand what it does | 10:32 |
| MrCurious | nova hypervisor-stats reports 57g avail. nova hypervisor-show openstack reports 137g available | 10:33 |
| mzbik | no change :( It hanged too | 10:33 |
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| SamYaple | MrCurious: I dont know what your disk looks like and you said you hosed your DB earlier. I would suggest wiping it and purging all related directories and reinstalling. Its going to be the quickest fix. | 10:36 |
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| SamYaple | mzbik: Anything else anywhere? | 10:36 |
| MrCurious | i did that while talking :) | 10:36 |
| MrCurious | still goofy | 10:36 |
| SamYaple | nova-compute going down seems to be a problem with rabbit and non consumption | 10:36 |
| SamYaple | MrCurious: you cleaned all nova and glance directories and dropped the sqlite databases? | 10:37 |
| mzbik | SamYaple, trying to find sth but cant :/ | 10:37 |
| mzbik | SamYaple, neutron looks good | 10:37 |
| MrCurious | i need to work out what sets nova.compute_nodes.free_disk_gb in mysql... as that is the broken or misconfigured bit | 10:37 |
| mzbik | maybe glance | 10:37 |
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| mzbik | this is on rhel7 maybe this is issue? :/ | 10:42 |
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| SamYaple | mzbik: I would doubt it. I mean _something_ is breaking | 10:42 |
| MrCurious | how about that... nova.compute_nodes shows free_disk_gb of 137, but local_gb of 57 | 10:42 |
| SamYaple | might be package versions, but I run the latest | 10:42 |
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| SamYaple | mzbik: whats the commit-id you are running off of? | 10:45 |
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| mzbik | SamYaple, this is "custom" build, and it happens from about month so... :( | 10:46 |
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| SamYaple | im not sure I follow. Youre installing from source, yes? | 10:46 |
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| preeti | hello | 12:27 |
| SamYaple | hello preeti | 12:28 |
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| preeti | hi | 12:32 |
| preeti | samYaple i have set up Juno version of openstack | 12:32 |
| preeti | I can ping only network node from VM | 12:32 |
| preeti | but i can't ping VM from network node | 12:32 |
| preeti | m i going right? | 12:33 |
| SamYaple | preeti: first make sure your securitygroup allows icmp; next try pringing it from inside the network namespace | 12:33 |
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| preeti | yes VM security is is allowing icmp | 12:34 |
| preeti | how to ping it from network node | 12:35 |
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| preeti | my compute controller netwrok nodes are at ip 172....series whereas VMare at 198....series | 12:35 |
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| samba35 | i am using openvswitch with ubuntu 14.04.1 and how do i understand which switch /port is used by which guest os | 12:44 |
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| SamYaple | samba35: the names of the ports are the first 10(?) characters of the port-id | 12:46 |
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| samba35 | mac address ? sorry i am new to ovs | 12:48 |
| samba35 | SamYaple: sorry pls correct me if i am wrong | 12:48 |
| SamYaple | samba35: no port-id | 12:49 |
| SamYaple | you can see then with `neutron port-list` | 12:49 |
| samba35 | how do i find a port0d | 12:49 |
| samba35 | how do i find a port-id | 12:49 |
| SamYaple | you can see then with `neutron port-list` | 12:50 |
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| samba35 | can i sent you pm ? | 12:50 |
| SamYaple | sure | 12:50 |
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| preeti_ | can anybody tell how to detach image from vm before rebooting the system | 13:20 |
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| user_42 | preeti_: If you want to use another image you maybe want to create a new instacne. However it is possible to remove attached volumes (see nova help volume-detach) | 14:21 |
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| sun28 | .си | 15:59 |
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| jeevan_ | Hello Happy new year greetings!, i am new to openstack and to linux, need your support to learn openstack | 16:09 |
| jeevan_ | so can some one help me how to start learning Openstack | 16:10 |
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| KimiA | jeevan_: the official installation guide is goos place to start | 16:10 |
| KimiA | http://docs.openstack.org/ | 16:10 |
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| jeevan_ | ok thanks for response do Linux knowledge is required to learn openstack? | 16:12 |
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| KimiA | jeevan_: if you want to install your own OpenStack cloud, then pretty much linux knowledge is required | 16:13 |
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| jeevan_ | oooo is basic linux is enough or depth knowledge is required | 16:14 |
| jeevan_ | dos any adition skill is required other than linux | 16:14 |
| KimiA | at least basics of networking | 16:15 |
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| jeevan_ | ok i am working as windows and Vmware admin | 16:15 |
| jeevan_ | will to learn cloud with open staqck | 16:16 |
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| KimiA | if you have good unsderstanding of windows and vmware administration, then you should be able to learn linux and openstack quite fast :) | 16:17 |
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| RichardRaseley | Would someone described what the expected behavior would be when issuing a live migration command to move an instance which is provisioned with a cinder-backed boot volume (i.e. no ephemeral volumes). | 18:38 |
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| MrCurious | in horizion/admin/hypervisors/ it states disk usage of 0 out of 57GB. where does that figure of 57GB come from? as i have far more disk available, and cannot use it. | 19:05 |
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| MrCurious | traced it to mysql nova.compute_nodes shows free_disk_gb of 137, but local_gb of 57 | 19:05 |
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| larsks | MrCurious: I don't have an answer for you, but I can confirm that I have also seen problems with the resource statistics collected by nova. | 19:13 |
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| larsks | If you have a demonstrable problem (e.g., "free_disk_gb" does not match the available space on /var/lib/nova), you may want to open a bug report. | 19:14 |
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| MrCurious | definitely going to do a bug report... just doing due diligence first :) | 19:16 |
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| visualne | Does the nova-compute service talk to the keystone api? Also does the ovs-agent speak to the keystone api? | 19:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | everything that needs tokens talks to keystone | 19:54 |
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| Aciid | hey does anyone have a handy guide for installing openstack on a baremetal with one IP? I've succesfully done this kind of an AIO setup on my local virtualbox setup on bridged mode, where gateway is 192.168.1.1. But when I try to replicate it in hetzner for example, the gateway is more like xxx.xxx.xxx.225, when I enter this as public_subnet gateway, vm's traceroute tries still to talk to xxx.xxx.xxx.226, | 19:55 |
| Aciid | because I had to set gateway on the router. and it creates something called "External gateway" on the router. In local environment the gateway 192.168.1.1 works from traceroute if public_subnet is set to gateway 192.168.1.1 | 19:55 |
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| visualne | It seems as though all the api services talk directly to keystone, but I don't see nova-compute needing to speak directly to keystone | 19:55 |
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| visualne | I think it just talks to the broker and the glance api and the neutron-server api | 19:56 |
| visualne | according to this document http://docs.openstack.org/training-guides/content/figures/5/a/figures/openstack-arch-havana-logical-v1.jpg | 19:56 |
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| Aciid | my question is, can I force the gateway for private subnet. Other than what is possbile from the neutron API, because neutron seems to do things wrong with my parameters. which are the same as the host machines. | 19:56 |
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| Aciid | or could I modify the in memory parameters, for example the "external gateway" in networking -> router -> router | 19:58 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Aciid: you'll have trouble with neutron and only one IP unless you internally NAT the neutron 'external' network | 19:59 |
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| Aciid | Sam-I-Am: yes this is a NAT network, which I'm trying to just talk to outside world. no incoming connections to VM's | 19:59 |
| Aciid | I will purchase later a subnet, but for now I'd like to work with VM's through NAT so basic requirements of VM's are met in my scenario. | 20:00 |
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| Sam-I-Am | you'll probably want to create a fake interface and nat through it... or something | 20:01 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i dont know how to make this work | 20:01 |
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| Aciid | yeah this I kinda basic NAT, but somehow the networking offshoots the IP's when I assign them. but the fake interface sounds good in the host. because the fake interface could be assigned to the offshooted IP | 20:02 |
| Aciid | thanks for the suggestion I'll try it :3 | 20:02 |
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| jdandrea | Anyone getting errors running stack.sh in DevStack (post clean.sh)? http://paste.openstack.org/show/155425/ | 20:03 |
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| harmw | anyone here to shed som lights on vxlan and mtu a proper size? | 20:19 |
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| harmw | which interfaces, on what node should be changed | 20:19 |
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| larsks | the simplest solution is to change the MTU *inside* your instances to 1450. You can do this with custom dhcp server settings, although this requires your instances to have properly behaving dhcp clients. | 20:22 |
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| larsks | Otherwise, I think you need to increase the MTU in your neutron plugin config (veth_mtu) and in your nova config (network_device_mtu). | 20:23 |
| larsks | I've only successfully tried the former (modify instance settings via dhcp options) | 20:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | dhcp is the easiest | 20:24 |
| harmw | dhcp is easy, yes | 20:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | otherwise your network needs to support frames > 1500 bytes to make it work right | 20:24 |
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| harmw | though I'm getting corrupt downloads, so I'm unsure if it's mtu related or just a faulty hw | 20:24 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ideally jumbo frames are the way to go, but take more effort and require decent hardware | 20:24 |
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| harmw | just a consumer-grade gbit switch, TP-Link | 20:25 |
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| harmw | though it does support jumbo frames, or should | 20:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | usually have to enable them somehow | 20:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | and if it works, the only ports that really need to support them are those associated with the tenant/tunnel networks | 20:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | assuming you stick with 1500 on instances | 20:26 |
| Sam-I-Am | beyond that, the external network needs to support whatever the unencapsulated packet size is | 20:27 |
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| harmw | so besides eth1 you mean also the tap device? | 20:27 |
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| harmw | and what about the qbr and qvb interfaces? plus, I take it to be changed on the neutron-server host and the compute nodes, right? | 20:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i was talking about the physical interfaces | 20:29 |
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| Sam-I-Am | all of the neutron virtual devices need >1500 mtus too | 20:29 |
| harmw | ok, all, everywhere | 20:30 |
| harmw | even in namespaces | 20:30 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yep | 20:30 |
| harmw | ok, got it | 20:30 |
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| Sam-I-Am | well, it really matters after packets get wrapped in vxlan | 20:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | so not necessarily the qvb/qvo business | 20:30 |
| harmw | since thats the point where they are oversized and pushed away | 20:30 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yes | 20:31 |
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| harmw | but from the qvb/qvo they go on-wire, across the vxlan tunnel to the neutron-l3-router, right? | 20:31 |
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| KyleWR | * | 20:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | qvb/qvo is the link between the linux bridge and the ovs integration bridge | 20:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the packets should get wrapped somewhere inside br-tun | 20:34 |
| harmw | well, every intrface is mtu1500 now | 20:35 |
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| harmw | the instance is configured with 1400 | 20:35 |
| harmw | but downloads get corrupted | 20:35 |
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| harmw | oh, hm, it didn't apply the ifconfig eth0 mtu 1400 | 20:35 |
| harmw | odd | 20:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | what kind of image is this? | 20:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | mtu shouldnt corrupt stuff, but sometimes it'll make transfers slow... or stop. | 20:36 |
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| harmw | which is why I'm not convinced its not just a faulty nic in the hypervisor | 20:37 |
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| Sam-I-Am | is it only one hypervisor? | 20:37 |
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| harmw | sadly, I only have 1 | 20:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | do downloads outside of openstack work? | 20:38 |
| harmw | so, mtu is 1400 now inside this centos7 instance | 20:38 |
| harmw | yup | 20:38 |
| harmw | and inside the instance they get corrupted | 20:39 |
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| harmw | easy test, downloading this file: http://mirror.nl.leaseweb.net/centos/7/updates/x86_64/repodata/e7ad9179c30736a8191e1b1d218e02f5872365436bccd59f51463b5e23fe8d8d-primary.sqlite.bz2 | 20:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | corrupted as in fully download but checksum is wrong? | 20:39 |
| harmw | yup | 20:39 |
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| Sam-I-Am | thats weird | 20:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | is this an aio? | 20:40 |
| harmw | no | 20:40 |
| harmw | neutron,nova and the lot on 1 node, nova-compute and vswitch-agent on the other | 20:40 |
| harmw | so 2 nodes involved | 20:40 |
| Sam-I-Am | so your instance traffic is traversing muliple nics | 20:41 |
| harmw | yes, once on the compute node and then on the (other) networking node | 20:41 |
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| harmw | plus, the instances are using ipv6 only | 20:42 |
| harmw | the vxlan tunnel is on ipv4 | 20:42 |
| harmw | (neutron-metadata is still ipv4 as well) | 20:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | so you like living on the edge | 20:42 |
| harmw | well, a little :) | 20:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | does ipv4 in instances work ok? | 20:43 |
| harmw | but I figured it would just work with lowering the mtu to 1400 - which it didn't | 20:43 |
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| harmw | didn't check yet, since neutron isn't fully dualstack afaik | 20:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, with ipv6 its more like 1280 iirc | 20:43 |
| harmw | it is? | 20:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | for tunnels yeah | 20:43 |
| harmw | damn | 20:43 |
| harmw | that would be a quite severe miscalculation... | 20:44 |
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| Sam-I-Am | 1280 seems to be the typical mtu for 6-in-4 tunnels | 20:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | so it might apply here | 20:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | wouldnt surprise me to find a bugs in openvswitch or neutron with v6 | 20:45 |
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| Sam-I-Am | not sure what version of ovs youre using, but 2.0.x is a disaster | 20:45 |
| harmw | openvswitch-2.1.2-2.el7.centos.1.x86_64 | 20:46 |
| harmw | openstack-neutron-openvswitch-2014.2.1-1.el7.centos.noarch | 20:46 |
| harmw | and 1280 didn't bring the desired result, still corruption | 20:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'd try making this work with v4 | 20:47 |
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| harmw | ok, lets see | 20:48 |
| harmw | shouldn't be to hard, with horizon | 20:49 |
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| harmw | thanks so far :) | 20:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sure | 20:52 |
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| visualne | Ya, ok the nova-compute daemon doesn't speak to the nova-api at all. http://ken.pepple.info/openstack/2011/04/22/openstack-nova-architecture/ | 20:59 |
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| Evanion | Hey, I’m setting up a new openstack enviroment for evaluation purposes … The evaluation machine have 1SSD, and 2 regular HDD, how do I specify the object and block storage to use the two regular HDDs? right now horizon only seem to detect the available storage on the SSD | 21:17 |
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| Evanion | I’m using RDO btw … | 21:17 |
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| cucumber_ | Hi everyone, quick question about floating IPs: I just create a floating IP range with nova-amanage, and works fine. but when I try to allocate floating IP from that pool, it says there is no IP Pool... (nova floating-ip-create) | 21:29 |
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| cucumber_ | When I run "nova floating-ip-pool-list" no pool name appears (something like pub, test, etc..). It's empty. I've boing reading on how to make it works, but no luck... | 21:30 |
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| cucumber_ | this is wht I get whrn execute "nova floating-ip-create": "ERROR: FloatingIpPoolNotFound: Floating ip pool not found. (HTTP 404)" | 21:31 |
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| Sam-I-Am | Evanion: generally you use mount points and then configure the services to use them as appropriate | 21:34 |
| Evanion | Yea, I was just wondering what mountpoints would be best practise.. and if there was any recommended partision table available on the net | 21:35 |
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| Evanion | by default it centos installer uses the larger disks for the /home mountpoint … but it doesn’t seem like that will be used | 21:37 |
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| Evanion | I don’t seem to be able to find it on the manual either... | 21:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | for servers, manual partitioning works best | 21:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | most people just have a / for the OS then have additional disks and mount points for other stuff | 21:39 |
| Evanion | yea thats SOP | 21:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | like you might mount your ssd as /mnt/ssd ... or just present it as a block device to lvm for cinder (which isnt mounted) | 21:39 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'm not sure how flexible RDO is... at least the packstack part of it. | 21:41 |
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| Evanion | My plan was to only use the SSD for the system, and then use the larger hdds for all the cloud stuff … but perhaps thats wrong? | 21:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | depends what you're doing | 21:45 |
| cucumber_ | any clue on the floating IP problem? | 21:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | is this a nova-net thing? | 21:49 |
| Sam-I-Am | or neutron | 21:49 |
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| mlg9000 | Hi all, I have some questions about Openstack and DNS | 21:54 |
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| cucumber_ | sam, I'm using nova | 21:55 |
| mlg9000 | I have existing services and essentially want to figure out how to go about updating DNS each time an instance is create/destroyed | 21:55 |
| cucumber_ | the commands I'm using are nova and nova-manage | 21:56 |
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| Sam-I-Am | cucumber_: iirc, with nova-net you have to create a pool first, then add IPs to that pool | 21:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | i dont use nova-net, so i cant remember exactly how it works | 21:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | bbl, need to wander off for a bit | 22:00 |
| cucumber_ | ok, I'll chet it out. Thanks | 22:00 |
| cucumber_ | check | 22:00 |
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| cucumber_ | I think I already did that.. create the pool and populate it with IP with "sudo nova-manage floating create --ip_range=192.168.60.0/24 --pool=external_network". If I execute "sudo nova-manage floating list" I see them all, but when I execute "nova floating-ip-pool-list" nothing appears | 22:04 |
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