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| foster_ | can someone help me with understanding why keystone is not passing the correct credentials to my network node? | 03:36 |
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| akas | guys, can i limit spesific public image for spesific zone | 03:43 |
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| Ali_ | Hi this is just a shout, i am Unix admin looking to implement cloud on ubuntu or redhat and what is the fast way to implement one for testing purpose ? thanks in advance | 03:59 |
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| Stanley|00 | Ali_: you mean you want to deploy openstack on your *linux* system? | 04:01 |
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| Ali_ | @Stanley|00 , yes | 04:02 |
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| Ali_ | @Stanley|00 , i am struggling with finding getting started guide .. there is a lot of material around .. | 04:03 |
| Stanley00 | Ali_: maybe, the best way is get devstack and let it do all stuff for you | 04:03 |
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| Ali_ | cool thanks for the advise i will start with devstack then .. | 04:04 |
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| Ali_ | @Stanley|00 , thanks a lot , do you happen to know any getting started material for implementation ? how network <> storage <>kvm <> images work together ? | 04:07 |
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| Stanley00 | Ali_: sorry, I new to openstack too :3 | 04:08 |
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| Stanley00 | I'm* | 04:08 |
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| Ali_ | @Stanley|00 , thanks its ok , some guru's must be around | 04:11 |
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| moshele | hi, I need another core reviewer for this fix in devstack https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146636/ | 06:51 |
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| petehurenson | for a couple of days now I have been chasing a problem with RabbitMQ and OpenStack Services. I noticed that the number of rabbit connections constantly grows up to the point where rabbit crashes due to too many file descriptors. I already posted at https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/57894/rabbitmq-number-of-connections/ but didnt get any real help regarding this. Does anybody have an idea or is experiencing the same problem? | 07:59 |
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| SamYaple | indeed petehurenson. I have see this | 08:00 |
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| KimiA | petehurenson: Are you sure that rabbitmq crashes due to too many file descriptors? The default limit is 1024 open file descriptors, and even if the system reaches that value, the process should not crash, just refuse to accept new connections | 08:12 |
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| KimiA | And it is also possible to increase that limit. RabbitMQ should have no problems handling thousands of simultaneous connections | 08:13 |
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| petehurenson | KimiA: you might be right, the actual problem is not the crashing of rabbitmq but rather the lost/stale/whatever connections and the fact that OpenStack services dont work anymore when that happens. Sorry that didnt come out earlier. The symptom I perceive is an instance stuck in scheduling state. Once I restart all OS services I can deploy instances again. | 08:17 |
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| KimiA | ok | 08:17 |
| KimiA | so try to increase the limit in /etc/default/rabbitmq-server (this file is present at least on ubuntu systems) and then restart rabbitmq | 08:18 |
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| petehurenson | I was made aware of this bug filed about a very similar issue (https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/856764) but it does not apply to my situation as I have no firewall sitting between services and rabbit | 08:18 |
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| petehurenson | KimiA: it will delay the error about file descriptors but not solve the issue | 08:19 |
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| SamYaple | yea petehurenson. I have experineced the exact issue you are talking about. I sent you a pm asking for some information about versions | 08:19 |
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| moshele | hi, I need another core reviewer for this fix in devstack https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146636/ | 08:52 |
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| petehurenson | ahh SamYaple just responded in PM about that :) | 08:59 |
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| txomon|fon | hi, I have noticed something strange in one of my machines, I get one MAC address from neutron, nova, but the real one, that virsh and ip l report is another one | 09:51 |
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| txomon|fon | any idea? | 09:51 |
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| SamYaple | txomon|fon: you have a different MAC inside the instance than what is reported by neutron? | 10:02 |
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| Fenuks | Hello. Anyone know if using same network for management and tunnel is okay? | 10:59 |
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| KimiA | Fenuks: it works in testing phase, but do not use that kind of setup for production. It is insecure and high amounts of vm traffic can block management traffic in you will have problems | 11:02 |
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| Fenuks | KimiA: Thank you. It is a testing/devel environment, so I guess it should not generate too much traffic | 11:03 |
| Fenuks | at least it's not planned to | 11:03 |
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| Fenuks | KimiA: I also only have 1 external IP, so I've set up neutron subnet with only that IP in allocation pool. It pings fine untill I try to access any external IP from networking node, then I have to do router-gateway-clear and set it again. Is that normal? | 11:06 |
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| KimiA | um, I have no idea | 11:06 |
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| txomon|fon | SamYaple, I found I was mistaking the grep with a character, however I still have the problem itself. I ARP works fine but there is no way I can connect or even do ping through the bridge | 11:34 |
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| txomon|fon | tap interface's tcpdump shows icmp requests going out | 11:34 |
| txomon|fon | bridge interface doesn't | 11:34 |
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| SamYaple | txomon|fon: tcpdump is wierd on br-int | 11:41 |
| SamYaple | are you using tunneling, or flat/vlan networks? | 11:42 |
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| txomon|fon | SamYaple, I am using openvswitch with L2-L3 agent and so | 12:10 |
| SamYaple | that doesn't answer my question txomon|fon | 12:11 |
| txomon|fon | flat vlna | 12:12 |
| txomon|fon | not using any tunneling | 12:12 |
| SamYaple | ok you should see traffic on the external interface (whatever you setup the interface name as, br-ex is the common name in the guide) | 12:13 |
| txomon|fon | I don't see any | 12:13 |
| txomon|fon | that's the problem | 12:13 |
| txomon|fon | if I tcpdump the tap interface, everything OK | 12:13 |
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| txomon|fon | but if I create another port and sniff in the same VLAN, doesn't happen anything | 12:14 |
| SamYaple | the whole networking chain is tap-->qvb->qvo->int-br-eth0->phy-br-eth0->eth0 | 12:14 |
| SamYaple | dump all the way up, see where its dropping | 12:15 |
| SamYaple | obviously the eth0 may be different on your system | 12:15 |
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| txomon|fon | tap is ok | 12:15 |
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| txomon|fon | qvb.. what is it? | 12:15 |
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| SamYaple | the tap device is in a bridge called qbr*** with another device called qvb*** | 12:16 |
| SamYaple | qvb and qvo is a veth pair | 12:17 |
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| txomon|fon | SamYaple, yeah, sorry, I had tricked my mind | 12:18 |
| txomon|fon | I tapped that but not working | 12:18 |
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| txomon|fon | I mean, I tcpdumped that device | 12:19 |
| SamYaple | so you dont see any traffic on the qvb device? | 12:19 |
| txomon|fon | and seems like tap -> qvb is not working | 12:19 |
| txomon|fon | nope | 12:19 |
| txomon|fon | sorry yea | 12:19 |
| txomon|fon | the ARP | 12:19 |
| txomon|fon | the only thing working | 12:19 |
| SamYaple | ok so you havent setup your security groups properly | 12:19 |
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| SamYaple | the only thing in between them is iptables controller by security groups | 12:20 |
| SamYaple | controlled* | 12:20 |
| txomon|fon | oh ok | 12:20 |
| txomon|fon | but is it enabled by default? | 12:20 |
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| SamYaple | the default security group enables all traffic out, yea | 12:20 |
| SamYaple | you may have changed it | 12:21 |
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| txomon|fon | SamYaple, humm ok, so, how may I map the filter name to interfaces? | 12:24 |
| SamYaple | ? | 12:24 |
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| txomon|fon | I mean, I am trying to track down that configuration line in the iptables | 12:24 |
| SamYaple | the iptable rules are pretty solid, I would look at your security group rules before thinking there is a problem with the iptable rules generation | 12:25 |
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| txomon|fon | oh, I was just trying to see where were all the ip packets dropping | 12:26 |
| txomon|fon | but ok | 12:26 |
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| SamYaple | its just standard iptable chains, you just have to follow them | 12:27 |
| SamYaple | its a painful process for the uninitiated | 12:27 |
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| Raj__ | regarding replication in cinder | 12:31 |
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| RAJ__ | Regarding cinder replication support | 12:32 |
| RAJ__ | it is necessary of | 12:33 |
| RAJ__ | Replication relationship db table | 12:33 |
| RAJ__ | and multi back end support ..? | 12:33 |
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| txomon|fon | SamYaple, doesn't seem to be any rule that denies traffic... | 12:41 |
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| txomon|fon | | 40e6a1da-7ea3-4f57-9a4c-7a64479ec423 | default | egress | | | | | 12:42 |
| txomon|fon | | 55e69090-302e-48ca-91b0-172f4dbd37b8 | default | ingress | | | default | | 12:42 |
| txomon|fon | | 5ce33de1-2e66-41b4-84fe-6b8357f18ce0 | default | ingress | | | default | | 12:42 |
| txomon|fon | | 7bd7fdc8-9c29-46ad-a971-73a886ab0cb8 | default | ingress | | | default | | 12:42 |
| txomon|fon | | d590b436-d1c2-4a94-b8a0-23fb2a733437 | default | ingress | | | default | | 12:42 |
| txomon|fon | | dc2d556d-6a7a-4c73-82c6-941f8b08bffd | default | egress | | | | | 12:42 |
| txomon|fon | | f9ab2b65-68c4-4998-b94d-b5444d26d775 | default | egress | | | | | 12:42 |
| txomon|fon | | fda48bf7-6836-4b1a-abe3-99ed5371700b | default | egress | | | | | 12:43 |
| txomon|fon | doesn't seem to have anything strange... | 12:43 |
| SamYaple | txomon|fon: please dont spam the channel, use paste.openstack.org | 12:43 |
| SamYaple | you need to explicitly allow things, since there is an implicit drop | 12:43 |
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| SamYaple | in your case, I think you were wanting to ping out, so icmp would need to be allowed to egress | 12:44 |
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| RAJ__ | SamYaple: do you knw above issue ..? | 12:45 |
| txomon|fon | SamYaple, so it is really discouraged to allow by default? | 12:46 |
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| txomon|fon | but I don't understand, I tried with cirros images, and it worked alright | 12:49 |
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| SamYaple | txomon|fon: no the by default the 'default' security group rules allow you to communicate out, but drops all packets comming in | 13:00 |
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| txomon|fon | SamYaple, ok, then, I have a problem. I have found that I have, from the command line, two security groups | 13:03 |
| txomon|fon | but if I check the webui, I have just one | 13:03 |
| txomon|fon | both are named defaults | 13:03 |
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| SamYaple | there is one 'default' security group created per tenant. | 13:04 |
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| SamYaple | The rules you posted have no actual rules defined in them (they do nothing) | 13:04 |
| txomon|fon | oh, ok, then, one last question, if I want to know which rule blongs where? | 13:05 |
| txomon|fon | oki | 13:05 |
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| SamYaple | each rule has a UUID | 13:06 |
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| txomon|fon | SamYaple, but it doesn't have one specified group uuid | 13:12 |
| txomon|fon | btw, I have checked the rules, and it's still not working | 13:12 |
| txomon|fon | seems like those empty rules were in fact allowing all | 13:12 |
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| txomon|fon | oh ok, I found that although in the list part doesn't appear the group id | 13:13 |
| txomon|fon | in the show command it does | 13:13 |
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| txomon|fon | so I will be exploring the iptables rules at the end | 13:19 |
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| txomon|fon | seems like something wrong going on there.. the ingress iptable rule is [1698:113515] -A neutron-openvswi-i8cc1fb28-d -m state --state INVALID -j DROP | 13:23 |
| txomon|fon | so it's dropping packets | 13:23 |
| SamYaple | yea by design | 13:24 |
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| SamYaple | it drops at the end of the chain, so you need explict allows | 13:24 |
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| txomon|fon | SamYaple, http://paste.openstack.org/show/157837/ | 13:28 |
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| txomon|fon | seems like it doesn't process correctly the empty rules that should teoretically allow all traffic | 13:28 |
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| txomon|fon | tap8cc1fb28-dc => neutron-openvswi-o8cc1fb28-d (last rule) | 13:30 |
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| txomon|fon | for some reason, seems like rules are unordered, don't they? | 13:32 |
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| txomon|fon | this is the full rules | 13:36 |
| txomon|fon | http://paste.openstack.org/show/157848/ | 13:36 |
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| txomon|fon | http://paste.openstack.org/show/157848/ | 13:37 |
| txomon|fon | uops | 13:37 |
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| madhuri_ | Hi, I have installed a compute node and created vm on it. But I am not able to ping it or ssh. | 14:04 |
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| madhuri_ | What could be the issue? | 14:04 |
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| rushiagr | madhuri_: there can be multiple | 14:07 |
| rushiagr | madhuri_: is it devstack that you're using? | 14:07 |
| rushiagr | madhuri_: has your VM got an IP (as shown in 'nova list')? | 14:07 |
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| madhuri_ | No I have setup tripleo environment | 14:08 |
| rushiagr | madhuri_: also, don't forget to check the logs.. If there is an issue with your setup, more likely than not you'll find a trace in the logs | 14:08 |
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| madhuri_ | The setup contain one controller node and one compute node on same machine | 14:08 |
| madhuri_ | And then I added an additional compute node running on different machine | 14:09 |
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| SamYaple | txomon|fon: empty rules should _NOT_ allow all traffic. They should do nothing. They are empty | 14:09 |
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| madhuri_ | Which logs to check? | 14:11 |
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| dencaval | Hey guys, is requisite a cinder volume for a nova instance? | 14:13 |
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| madhuri_ | rushiagr: Any idea? | 14:13 |
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| rushiagr | madhuri_: what is the specific error you're getting? | 14:16 |
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| madhuri_ | No error. It just that I can't ping it. | 14:16 |
| madhuri_ | It gives Detination host unreachacle | 14:16 |
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| KyleWR | Anyone else have a TON of sleeping commands in their DB? For reference, this is a MariaDB running on a Red Hat 7 box (Juno cloud). As soon as I bounce the mariadb service, I immediately have 100+ sleeping connections ('show processlist') | 14:18 |
| KyleWR | Is this normal behavior? | 14:19 |
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| KyleWR | I'm up in the 1000's by the end of a day. | 14:19 |
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| adrian_ | <SamYaple>: Hi, I'm a colleage of txomon|fon. If the don't allow all traffic why do they appear as allow in horizon? | 14:24 |
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| jaypipes | heyhohi: hi :) | 14:34 |
| heyhohi | hi again =) | 14:34 |
| jaypipes | heyhohi: so, what system are you using to deploy OpenStack? | 14:35 |
| heyhohi | ubunut | 14:35 |
| heyhohi | ubuntu | 14:35 |
| heyhohi | 12.04 | 14:35 |
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| heyhohi | the package version is the last one with ubuntu | 14:35 |
| heyhohi | 1:2014.1.3-0ubuntu1~cloud0 | 14:35 |
| jaypipes | heyhohi: so you are doing a manual install of packages, as opposed to using a configuration manager like Chef/Puppet/Ansible? | 14:36 |
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| heyhohi | jaypipes: yes | 14:36 |
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| heyhohi | jaypipes: weel, in fact i deployed my plateform with ansible but with my own playbook | 14:37 |
| jaypipes | heyhohi: hmm, ok. you will need to chown the /var/lib/nova/instances directory | 14:37 |
| jaypipes | heyhohi: do an ls -lh /var/lib/instances for me | 14:37 |
| heyhohi | jaypipes: yeah I did it but it change all the time ... | 14:37 |
| jaypipes | sorry, ls -lh /var/lib/nova/instances | 14:37 |
| heyhohi | jaypipes: ok | 14:38 |
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| jaypipes | KyleWR: yes, that is normal behaviour for a deployment of 20+ nodes. | 14:38 |
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| heyhohi | jaypipes: http://pastebin.com/HwfQFubj | 14:42 |
| heyhohi | jaypipes: sorry for the delay ^^ | 14:42 |
| jaypipes | no need to apologize :) | 14:43 |
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| heyhohi | jaypipes: as i said, when it's my _base file which causes issues | 14:44 |
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| heyhohi | jaypipes: http://pastebin.com/j8wa47EN | 14:45 |
| jaypipes | aha | 14:45 |
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| heyhohi | jaypipes: note that my /var/lib/instances directory is mount on netapp volume | 14:46 |
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| jaypipes | heyhohi: interesting that some base images have dashes in the instance ID and others do not. | 14:46 |
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| jaypipes | heyhohi: netapp vol should not make a difference... tell me, did you upgrade nova some time in between oct 20th and january 14th? | 14:47 |
| heyhohi | jaypipes: I think this is it since i upgrade the package ... but not sure | 14:47 |
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| heyhohi | jaypipes: yes i did | 14:47 |
| jaypipes | heyhohi: yeah, I have a feeling this is an upgrade issue.. | 14:47 |
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| jaypipes | heyhohi: you upgraded from icehouse to juno? | 14:48 |
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| heyhohi | jaypipes: not yet ... just the 1:2014.1-0ubuntu1~cloud0 to 1:2014.1.3-0ubuntu1~cloud0 | 14:49 |
| heyhohi | jaypipes: but still in icehosue | 14:49 |
| jaypipes | gotcha, ok | 14:49 |
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| jaypipes | heyhohi: OK, I don't know the solution here. So, I'd suggest posting to the mailing list with the subject "[nova] Upgrade Ubuntu packages from 2014.1 to 2014.1.3 and permissions change on /var/lib/nova/instances/_base, causing permission errors on lauch" | 14:51 |
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| jaypipes | heyhohi: let's see if one of the ubunut packagers might have some ideas. | 14:51 |
| jaypipes | zul: ^^ any ideas on above? | 14:51 |
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| heyhohi | jaypipes: =) | 14:53 |
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| heyhohi | jaypipes: =D | 14:53 |
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| KyleWR | jaypipes Thanks! | 14:56 |
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| jaypipes | KyleWR: to be more specific, the number of DB connections you will see is typically: | 14:57 |
| heyhohi | jaypipes: see now, one of my image's owner on _base directory juste change from libvirt-qemu to nova | 14:57 |
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| heyhohi | jaypipes: so weird | 14:57 |
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| jaypipes | per controller node running nova-conductor, keystone, cinder, neutron api, etc: 8*num cores on box | 14:58 |
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| jaypipes | KyleWR: ^^ that is *per controller node* | 14:58 |
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| jaypipes | heyhohi: I would describe what you are seeing in a mailing list post and see what the ubuntu packagers have ideas about. | 14:58 |
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| KyleWR | jaypipes Interesting. As a tangible example, I bounced the db service ~40 minutes ago: up to 718 (ID) | 15:00 |
| heyhohi | jaypipes: ok thanks ;-) | 15:00 |
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| jaypipes | KyleWR: why bounced the db service? | 15:01 |
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| KyleWR | I wanted to see how quickly the connection ID climbed per hour | 15:02 |
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| nikesh_vedams_ | hhi | 15:24 |
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| nikesh_vedams_ | i want to use ubuntu 14.04 in glance | 15:24 |
| nikesh_vedams_ | how can i do so | 15:24 |
| nikesh_vedams_ | ? | 15:24 |
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| _nick | nikesh_vedams_: you mean you want to use trusty to host the glance services, or you want to upload a trusty image into glance? | 15:25 |
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| VeiledSpectre | heya | 15:26 |
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| nikesh_vedams_ | _nick : want to upload a trusty image into glance? | 15:28 |
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| nikesh_vedams_ | _nick : and want to access instance having trusty with ssh | 15:29 |
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| _nick | the official image to upload is here: http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/trusty/current/trusty-server-cloudimg-amd64-disk1.img | 15:30 |
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| _nick | then either use the glance cli to upload and make it available (http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/content/cli_manage_images.html), or use the horizon dashboard | 15:31 |
| _nick | that image is configured to use cloud-init so it'll do a few sensible automatic things on startup like expanding the root filesystem, setting hostname, and injecting whichever ssh key you have associated | 15:32 |
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| nosleep77 | hi | 15:35 |
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| nikesh_vedams_ | _nick : in which format do you upload this image to glance and do this image has any default user name like cirros image | 15:35 |
| _nick | nikesh_vedams_: it's a qcow2 image, the default user (which will get your ssh key) is ubuntu | 15:35 |
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| nikesh_vedams_ | _nick : glance image-create --name trusty-image --disk-format qcow2 \ > --container-format bare --is-public True --file /home/vedams/trusty-server-cloudimg-amd64-disk1.img | 15:44 |
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| nikesh_vedams_ | _nick : glance image-create --name trusty-image --disk-format qcow2 --container-format bare --is-public True --file /home/vedams/trusty-server-cloudimg-amd64-disk1.img | 15:45 |
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| nikesh_vedams_ | _nick : is disk-format correct in command | 15:47 |
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| _nick | nikesh_vedams_ yes | 15:47 |
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| nikesh_vedams_ | _nick : ssh -i /home/vedams/MY_KEY.pem ubuntu@192.168.2.186 ssh: connect to host 192.168.2.186 port 22: Connection refused | 16:05 |
| nikesh_vedams_ | _nick : launched a instance in kilo devstack | 16:05 |
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| nikesh_vedams_ | _nick: now in kilo devstack by default console is not enabled so trying to so ssh but failing | 16:06 |
| _nick | nikesh_vedams_: can you look at the console log and see if cloud-init was successful? | 16:07 |
| _nick | and are you sure that's the right ssh key? | 16:07 |
| _nick | if cloud-init fails to contact your metadata service then that ssh key won't have been injected and you won't be able to login | 16:07 |
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| nikesh_vedams_ | _nick : http://paste.openstack.org/show/157937/ | 16:08 |
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| _nick | nikesh_vedams_: that looks good, so there's a problem with the ssh key you're using | 16:09 |
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| nikesh_vedams_ | _nick : nova keypair-add cloudkey > MY_KEY.pem and cloudkey i selected for creating instance | 16:11 |
| _nick | oh hang on, connection refused | 16:11 |
| _nick | are you connecting from another instance on the same private network? | 16:12 |
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| nikesh_vedams_ | _nick : yes | 16:20 |
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| georgem1 | nikesh_vedams_: you can also check two other things: if the instance you're connecting from gets an arp reply from 192.168.2.186, and if the security group applied to 192.168.2.186 allows ssh access | 16:25 |
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| nikesh_vedams_ | _nick georegeml : now able to login,did some mistake | 16:27 |
| georgem1 | ok | 16:27 |
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| nikesh_vedams_ | _nick georegeml : is there any way that to login with ubuntu username with ssh | 16:28 |
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| nikesh_vedams_ | _nick georegeml : sorry is there any way to login without ubuntu username with ssh | 16:29 |
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| thebloggu | I've got an instance with two volumes and it is in shutoff status. As I've got filesystem corruption on one of my volumes and can't fix them from the instance I thought I could shutdown the instance, detach the volume and attach to another instance. But my volume appears to be stuck in detaching. can someone help me? | 16:30 |
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| hypnosb_ | thebloggu: you gotta do some serious grepping of dem logs | 16:30 |
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| thebloggu | hypnosb_, could you tell me where are the relevant logs? | 16:31 |
| nikesh_vedams_ | _nick georegeml : i am using sos-ci written by jgriifith and its create a instance on getting gerrit event and do some tasks in instance | 16:31 |
| hypnosb_ | thebloggu: try grep -R ERROR /var/log/*/*.log | 16:31 |
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| hypnosb_ | thebloggu: try grep -R ERROR /var/log/cinder/*.log | 16:32 |
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| thebloggu | hypnosb, I've got no cinder folder log | 16:33 |
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| thebloggu | sorry, hypnosb_ | 16:33 |
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| hypnosb_ | thebloggu: /var/log/messages? systemctl? edit /var/log/cinder.conf and add log_dir=/var/log/cinder? | 16:34 |
| georgem1 | nikesh_vedams_: you have to create a new local user and allow it ssh access, you can then change the cloud-init to specify this is the user that should have the user provided keys injected into the authorized file and then snapshot the instance to create a new base image | 16:35 |
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| thebloggu | hypnosb_, sorry, I've got no cinder.conf (i installed openstack with packstack on fedora, btw). I'm checking /var/log/messages now | 16:42 |
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| hypnosb_ | thebloggu: /etc/cinder/cinder.conf ? seems impossible .. ive installed with packstack and have this file | 16:44 |
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| thebloggu | hypnosb_, sorry, wrong machine, i was on another node | 16:46 |
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| thebloggu | hypnosb_, http://paste.openstack.org/show/157955/ | 16:48 |
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| hypnosb_ | thebloggu: could add debug=True verbose=True to cinder.conf, restart cinder-volume ... also use regular lvm tools to give any insight lvscan lvs ... | 16:55 |
| hypnosb_ | thebloggu: unfortunately only like 3 people work on openstack so ... :/ | 16:56 |
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| X123 | Anyone seeing weird connection issues in ubuntu kernel 3.13 | 16:56 |
| X123 | like ssh stalls after entering the password for 8-120 seconds | 16:56 |
| hypnosb_ | or know how it really works | 16:56 |
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| championofcyrodi | hi all. I'm trying to request a resize action through the v2 API, but getting 'authentication required' as the response. I've followed this link http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-identity-service/2.0/content/POST_admin-authenticate_v2.0_tokens_Token_Operations.html and have successfully obtained a response. | 17:00 |
| championofcyrodi | with a token (in json) | 17:00 |
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| championofcyrodi | however, I'm not sure how to include the token w/ my resize action request | 17:00 |
| championofcyrodi | this is for the compute api v2 | 17:00 |
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| championofcyrodi | i think i need the X-Auth-Token header, and have included that... but not sure where to find the value for that property | 17:03 |
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| dgbaley | I have public-1 and public-2 external networks. I have router-public-1 and router-public-2 with the appropriate gateways set. I have one virtual network with an interface on each router 10.0.0.1 and 10.0.0.2. | 17:04 |
| dgbaley | When I associate a floating IP from public-1, it is being added to the public-2 router! | 17:04 |
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| hypnosb_ | What exactly happens when I select " Boot from Image (creates a new volume) " | 17:07 |
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| championofcyrodi | what is the use of the public/private endpoints in the token response? | 17:07 |
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| dgbaley | hypnosb_: the equivalent of creating a new volume from an image and then booting from a volume. | 17:10 |
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| hypnosb_ | ok | 17:13 |
| hypnosb_ | just a lot of moosh in my head | 17:14 |
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| dgbaley | IMO the distinction between volume and image is too strong, and I think is a holdover from EC2 compatibility. | 17:15 |
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| dgbaley | hypnosb_: booting from volumes is more intuitive and will be easier if you want to take checkpoints IMO. | 17:16 |
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| dgbaley | If you just boot from an image, and take a 'snapshot' it will result in a new image. However, if you boot from a volume, you can take a volume snapshot directly and to me feels cleaner | 17:17 |
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| kallebe | Hey guys. I was wondering if it is possible to initiate and use a Nova VM from a prepared .ovf. This .ovf would be a linux, but with a custom (proprietary) software running inside it. | 17:24 |
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| MilesDenver | My openstack cluster is growing up. I'd like to add Ceph. Curious things is … I have too much local storage on my compute nodes. | 17:24 |
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| MilesDenver | Wondering is anyone has ever loaded Ceph on every compute node and then mounted /var/lib/nova/instances on Ceph? | 17:25 |
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| gregmark | All of our compute nodes are also nova nodes. We use it for block storage through cinder | 17:26 |
| MilesDenver | kallebe: I haven't done that. I've converted all images to other formats. | 17:26 |
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| gregmark | *All of our compute nodes are also CEPH nodes | 17:26 |
| MilesDenver | gregmark: but where is your block storage? Have you thought of running…. AH! | 17:26 |
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| dgbaley | Same here, we have 8 compute/ceph nodes and 7 more compute nodes. | 17:27 |
| MilesDenver | gregmark: that works well for you? | 17:27 |
| dgbaley | However, I'm trying hard to separate out the ceph nodes so avoid it if you can | 17:27 |
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| dgbaley | You don't mount /var/lib/nova on ceph though | 17:27 |
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| dgbaley | You configure cinder/glance/nova to use rbd directly | 17:28 |
| MilesDenver | dgbaley" I'm tempted because I have a pile of local disk on all the compute nodes. | 17:28 |
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| dgbaley | Yeah, it's understandable; when we started we had a specific budget, and didn't have a good understanding of it all, so we conceptually liked 1 "node" bringing in compute and storage resources to make it easy to scale | 17:29 |
| MilesDenver | dgbaley: Yea, that make sense. rbd | 17:29 |
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| kallebe | MilesDenver: which formats did you use? I know that qcow2 is a recommended, but I would really like to use a Nova VM from this customized .ovf. Do you know if it is possible this way? | 17:29 |
| MilesDenver | dgbaley: but you are changing it now…. separating compute from storage? | 17:29 |
| dgbaley | MilesDenver: The ceph website has the guide for configuring openstack to use ceph | 17:29 |
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| dgbaley | MilesDenver: I'm working on it | 17:30 |
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| dgbaley | kallebe: It depends on your storage backend. E.g., for ceph stay away from qcow2, conver the image to raw first | 17:30 |
| MilesDenver | dgbaley: I always like to hear from a practioner first if I can to guide my reading. Thanks. | 17:30 |
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| gregmark | Miles: surprisingly, yes! | 17:30 |
| dgbaley | MilesDenver: I have a couple of tips beyond the ceph guide | 17:30 |
| MilesDenver | I'm listening | 17:31 |
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| dgbaley | glance is easy and straightforward | 17:31 |
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| dgbaley | for cinder, you want to enable multiple storage backends, even if 'ceph' or 'rbd' is your only volume type | 17:31 |
| MilesDenver | kallebe: check this out - http://edoceo.com/notabene/ova-to-vmdk-to-qcow2 | 17:31 |
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| dgbaley | And for nova, you should choose whether or not you want ephemeral disks to be stored locally or in ceph | 17:32 |
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| kallebe | MilesDenver: ok, thanks for your help. I will see if things work out with this .ovf. Only one more question: can a Nova VM be instantiated without an associated Cinder volume? In other words, this VM would use a backend storage to provision its volume | 17:32 |
| dgbaley | Is this your first time deploying ceph? | 17:32 |
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| dgbaley | (Also, like I just said, don't use qcow2 images or you will breaking snapshots) | 17:33 |
| MilesDenver | dgbaley: it is…. I built my stack on Grizzly and now we are either upgrading, or at the very least, upgrading the storage | 17:33 |
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| dgbaley | Ugh, I upgraded from Icehouse to Juno and did not have a nice time | 17:34 |
| kallebe | MilesDenver: ok, thanks for this link. I will see if I can make it work here :) | 17:34 |
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| MilesDenver | kallebe: all my VMs are spun up on either local disk or NFS mounted to /var/lib/nova/instances | 17:34 |
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| MilesDenver | grizzly to Juno will not work. I know it. We will have parallel environments for a time. | 17:35 |
| dgbaley | How many disks/nodes do you have? And are you able to keep the Operating System on a separate disk then your OSDs? | 17:35 |
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| gregmark | Miles: our concern would be that iowait would suffer, but it really doesn't get much above .1 | 17:36 |
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| gregmark | and that's on compute nodes with upwards of 20 vms | 17:36 |
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| kallebe | MilesDenver: ok, but I have seen in askopenstack that Cinder volume is needed if I want to persist the data. ( https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/56214/does-the-block-and-object-storage-are-obligatory/ ) | 17:36 |
| MilesDenver | 12 compute nodes and the majority of those have way too many drives locally. | 17:36 |
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| MilesDenver | gregmark: or compute nodes are running at a density of 70vm | 17:37 |
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| MilesDenver | at around 75 things go south. | 17:37 |
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| gregmark | yep, I'm sure it becomes a problem at a certain scale | 17:37 |
| MilesDenver | I'll start reading and experimenting. Thank you both for the help. | 17:38 |
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| MilesDenver | kallebe: Data will persist on a reboot, but not if you destroy the VM and spin it up again. For that to work you would want to mount a volume with cinder. | 17:38 |
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| kallebe | MilesDenver: oh, I see now. Thanks | 17:39 |
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| MilesDenver | kallebe: no worries. I currently have two zones in my openstack installation. One keeps the VM on and NFS server so if the compute node dies, I just move them to a fresh node. | 17:40 |
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| MilesDenver | The other zone is for ephemeral. If the compute node dies, all the VMs also are lost. Sad, but those nodes rely on Puppet to quickly build things. | 17:41 |
| kallebe | MilesDenver: nice. | 17:41 |
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| MilesDenver | Feel free to ask questions day long. I'm just gonna read and learn for the rest of the day. | 17:42 |
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| dgbaley | kallebe: we have something similar, but we use special flavors called io.* to target the machines where storage is ephemeral, but that storage is high end PCIe SSDs. So the users know the tradeoff they're making. | 17:45 |
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| MilesDenver | dgbaley: same here. The flavor selects the underlying storage. | 17:46 |
| dgbaley | By default all storage is the 'ceph' volume type. But we also provide a 'raid6' volume type that's backed by a single node with 22T array for a little better performance over iscsi and a 'ssd' volume type which is also iscsi and points to a few storage nodes which serve up the ssds. | 17:46 |
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| kallebe | dbaley: right. We will see here the best possible ways :) | 17:53 |
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| thebloggu | I have a development swift deployment consisting of one physical node (which happens to be an openstack nova node too) and 4 virtual instances. Some time ago these instances got shutdown but the physical node. How should I proceed to recover the service? | 18:08 |
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| thebloggu | ups, sorry, wrong channel | 18:09 |
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| championofcyrodi | [root@node-13 ~]# nova resize hannibal 5 --poll | 18:45 |
| championofcyrodi | ERROR: HTTPConnectionPool(host='192.168.3.100', port=8774): Max retries exceeded with url: /v2/dc25784fc9d94e58b3887045756cf9e8/servers/2006d7db-d18e-4390-ae1c-40dd77644853/action (Caused by <class 'httplib.BadStatusLine'>: ) | 18:45 |
| championofcyrodi | trying to debug ^ by making my own POST API Calls... | 18:45 |
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| championofcyrodi | got the v2.0 token response from keystone... still trying to figure out how to do the resize. all i get is | 18:46 |
| championofcyrodi | but the id doesnt match up with the id show in the docs... the one in the docs has dashes (-) | 18:46 |
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| qqmber | hi everyone | 19:10 |
| qqmber | For some reason since I reinstall openstack from Landscape I'm not able to log into my instances via ssh, even I assosiate a SSH key. I only get an "Permission denied (publickey)" message. | 19:10 |
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| qqmber | my private key has 600 rights and the command I'm using is "ssh -i /home/MyUser/.ssh/id_rsa ubuntu@Floating_IP, where id_rsa is the private key that is related to that instance, and Floating_IP is the floating IP that is associated to that instance, and is reacheable from where I'm doing ssh. | 19:11 |
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| qqmber | If I try the same from Windows (putty + ppk key), the instance says "Server refused our key" | 19:11 |
| qqmber | any ideas? | 19:11 |
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| championofcyrodi | making progress i think. the api shows a token id like : aaaaa-bbbbb-ccccc-dddd | 19:15 |
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| championofcyrodi | but the response from my keystone server is like | 19:16 |
| championofcyrodi | "id": "dbd3b994b9274de7b818950c88f3acee" | 19:16 |
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| championofcyrodi | following the instructions here: http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-identity-v2.html | 19:16 |
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| morganfainberg | championofcyrodi, the id for a uuid token would be without the hashes | 19:16 |
| championofcyrodi | for Tokens POST Authenticate: Authenticates and generates a token. | 19:16 |
| morganfainberg | dashes* | 19:16 |
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| morganfainberg | uuid can be represented ina bunhc of ways, it should always be the plain hex representation when talking to the API itself | 19:17 |
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| championofcyrodi | so when talking to the v2 compute API, so i just include the header like, "X-Auth-Token: dbd3b994b9274de7b818950c88f3acee" ? | 19:18 |
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| championofcyrodi | essentially, i'm having a hard time understanding how to properly form the POST request to the compute API with the hex representation of the token. | 19:20 |
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| championofcyrodi | okay, it looks like i'm getting the 'identity admin api' response token instead of the instead of the 'identity api' | 19:23 |
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| zenpac | How can I get a normal user to run "ovs-vsctl show" without sudo? | 19:58 |
| zenpac | Maybe wrong channel? | 19:58 |
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| nunne | Using kvm and overcommit on cpu. Will that punish the guests even if im not using all those overcommited cpus? Or should it be fine? | 20:24 |
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| nunne | Having some cpu problems. But they are more likely windows2012 related and that browsing websites eats cpu like crazy :p | 20:27 |
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| championofcyrodi | nunne: check dns lookups. web requests could be hitting an upstream DNS server and making things very slow for each call | 20:42 |
| championofcyrodi | in linux i use something like 'dig domain.com' and it gives me the response time | 20:43 |
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| championofcyrodi | so I'm at the point where I can get 2 different responses from the compute v2 api. The first is just 'authentication required | 20:44 |
| championofcyrodi | the second is internal server 500 error when i include the X-Auth-Token as the 2nd header sent. | 20:44 |
| championofcyrodi | if i send the auth token after the Content-Type header, i get authentication required error. | 20:45 |
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| nunne | championofcyrodi: microsoft depricated a service that allowed to limit the amount of cpu for example chrome used. So now 3-4 users can drag a 2vCPU server to its kneed by using all CPU :( | 20:45 |
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| championofcyrodi | ah. I was reading about scheduler patterns last night. fair share vs. round robin, and more. | 20:46 |
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| nunne | They use the fair share scheme in 2012. But they share "hell" equally :p | 20:47 |
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| championofcyrodi | nunne: "Microsoft has also built in a new feature called the Fairshare Experience." | 20:52 |
| championofcyrodi | "This feature attempts to prevent one user from interfering with the session of another user by disproportionately using the system resources and thus affecting the performance of others." | 20:52 |
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| championofcyrodi | for session virtualization, aka terminal services. | 20:53 |
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| championofcyrodi | although I'm not sure I like the title 'Fairshare Experience' | 20:54 |
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| anish | championofcyrodi: hits a bit close to microsoft fairplay for me :P | 20:55 |
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| championofcyrodi | I think i'm just not a fan of the buzzword 'experience' for a product. Latest one I heard was "UX" instead of 'ui' (User eXperience). It just makes me feel like it's going to be a bad experience. | 21:00 |
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| championofcyrodi | well looks like this is related: Message | 21:22 |
| championofcyrodi | Unexpected error while running command. Command: ssh 10.20.0.9 mkdir -p /var/lib/nova/instances/2006d7db-d18e-4390-ae1c-40dd77644853 Exit code: 1 Stdout: '' Stderr: "Warning: Permanently added '10.20.0.9' (RSA) to the list of known hosts.\r\n" | 21:22 |
| championofcyrodi | the hostkey checking warning is being picked up as an error | 21:22 |
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| nunne | championofcyrodi: its not a perfect system. We sre using it. It doesnt limits the amount of cpu the users can use in reality. It just divided it over them. So 2 users using chrome will still kill the cpu. :/ it works crap basically. No one knowd why they depricated something that has bern working for 10 years :p | 21:27 |
| visualne | Has anyone successfully connected a ceph cluster to icehouse? | 21:28 |
| championofcyrodi | visualne: we are running icehouse w/ ceph on 4 nodes | 21:28 |
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| championofcyrodi | but used the mirantis fuel installer | 21:28 |
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| visualne | championofcyrodi: did have issue connecting cinder to ceph. Did you happen to see this in the volume log over and over again: RBDDriver -1.1.0 driver is uninitialized. | 21:29 |
| championofcyrodi | well, i didnt... someone else did. | 21:29 |
| championofcyrodi | i'll look in the volume logs now... | 21:29 |
| visualne | so obviosuly cinder cant talk to ceph | 21:29 |
| visualne | ok | 21:29 |
| visualne | my cinder.conf is here | 21:29 |
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| championofcyrodi | we are only using ceph... and i believe the API makes calls to cinder... which does use ceph. | 21:30 |
| visualne | http://pastebin.com/Yx2fJR7u | 21:30 |
| visualne | I just saw something related to iscsi in there... | 21:31 |
| visualne | uhhh | 21:31 |
| MilesDenver | I was just doing some nice reading on Cinder and Folsom/Grizzly - http://www.techbar.me/openstack-ceph-integration/ | 21:31 |
| MilesDenver | That shows the basic glance and nova settings in the second half of the post. | 21:31 |
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| maishsk | Who is eligble to vote in the elections? | 21:33 |
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| championofcyrodi | @visualne volume_driver=cinder.volume.drivers.rbd.RBDDriver < that is correct... | 21:34 |
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| maishsk | "active member of the OpenStack Foundation" according to this http://www.openstack.org/blog/2015/01/why-all-openstack-foundation-individual-members-should-vote-now/ | 21:34 |
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| maishsk | My question is - what is the definition of an "active member"? | 21:35 |
| championofcyrodi | @visualne: do you have the QEMU KVM packages installed? | 21:35 |
| championofcyrodi | err rather... what OS are you running on | 21:35 |
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| visualne | championofcyrodi: qemu-img version 0.12.1, Copyright (c) 2004-2008 Fabrice Bellard | 21:36 |
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| visualne | championofcyrodi: Supported formats: raw cow qcow vdi vmdk cloop dmg bochs vpc vvfat qcow2 qed vhdx parallels nbd blkdebug host_cdrom host_floppy host_device file gluster gluster gluster gluster rbd | 21:36 |
| visualne | cent 6.5 | 21:36 |
| championofcyrodi | same as us... let me look further | 21:36 |
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| championofcyrodi | what do you get when you run 'ceph health' on a controller? | 21:37 |
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| championofcyrodi | did you restart openstack-cinder-volume service after updating /etc/cinder/cinder.conf? | 21:40 |
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| visualne | yes | 21:41 |
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| MilesDenver | maishsk: I voted. An active member is one who signed up to be an active member. | 21:46 |
| MilesDenver | I think you just go here - http://www.openstack.org/foundation/ and signup | 21:46 |
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| championofcyrodi | chmod 644 /etc/ceph/ceph.conf ?? | 21:47 |
| visualne | yep already done | 21:50 |
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| visualne | [root@demo-controller1 MISC]# ceph health HEALTH_WARN crush map has legacy tunables | 21:50 |
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| championofcyrodi | i don't think that is the issue | 21:51 |
| championofcyrodi | so my thoughts are that the driver is not initialized, means that the kernel support is not available maybe? | 21:52 |
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| championofcyrodi | i'm not sure. I don't have any filesystems in /proc/filesystems on the controllers or nodes to indicated 'rbd' or 'ceph' is loaded. :\ | 21:53 |
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| championofcyrodi | but is working, so maybe linux kernel update is unrelated | 21:54 |
| championofcyrodi | the 'driver' keyword made me think of that | 21:54 |
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| championofcyrodi | google says Ceph OSD Daemons depend on the Extended Attributes (XATTRs) of the underlying file system for various forms of internal object state and metadata. The underlying filesystem must provide sufficient capacity for XATTRs. btrfs does not bound the total xattr metadata stored with a file. | 21:55 |
| championofcyrodi | and i have 'hugetlfs' in /proc/filesystems | 21:55 |
| championofcyrodi | hugetlbfs* | 21:56 |
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| championofcyrodi | donno, i'm stumped. | 21:56 |
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| ranger81 | glance image upload through url is stuck in queued state. how do I troubleshoot this. glance-api.log does not have much info. | 22:08 |
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| championofcyrodi | weird... so a service call is failing because of the knownhosts warning, but in the .ssh/config, stricthostchecking is set to 'no' for Host *, with the UserKnownHostsFile=/dev/null | 22:09 |
| championofcyrodi | for all controllers... | 22:09 |
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| visualne | do I need to update the kernel? | 22:10 |
| championofcyrodi | let me check my kernel ver... | 22:11 |
| championofcyrodi | might just need the extras from epel or something... | 22:11 |
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| visualne | lsmod | grep rbd --- doesnt return anything... | 22:11 |
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| visualne | kernel Linux demo-controller1.ngi.harris.com 2.6.32-504.3.3.el6.x86_64 | 22:12 |
| championofcyrodi | me neither. | 22:12 |
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| clubanderson | what is the best room to join to get help debugging network issue? I followed the setup instructions but I did something wrong. My instances have no connectivity | 22:55 |
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| anish | clubanderson: this isn't the novnc issue is it ? | 22:56 |
| clubanderson | i think its user setup error honestly | 22:56 |
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| anish | coz there are a bunch of pppl complaining recently that their instances have no connectivity which ties down to novnc no longer being enabled by default | 22:57 |
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| anish | though I might have mistakenly assumed you are on devstack | 22:57 |
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| clubanderson | no - im not on devstack | 22:58 |
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| clubanderson | I cant blame anyone else but myself for this one | 22:58 |
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| clubanderson | never got a good handle on how the interfaces (other than the management ones) worked together | 22:59 |
| clubanderson | although I have read about different configurations - i get lost in the br-int and br-ex elements | 23:00 |
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| MilesDenver | Question about upgrades. Does anyone know if VMs that I've spun up with a Grizzly era KVM will work with Icehouse or Juno era KVM? | 23:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | MilesDenver: probably, but they might need to be shut down and restarted. | 23:30 |
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| Sam-I-Am | kvm may have changed a lot since then, and the nova version requirements too | 23:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | in cases where kvm doesnt need to be upgraded, often times vms stay running | 23:31 |
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| MilesDenver | yea… I'm not having luck finding anything about KVM changes that would kill things Sam-I-Am. | 23:36 |
| MilesDenver | I'm thinking I'll spin up some DevStacks of various versions and load try so use my old disk files. | 23:37 |
| MilesDenver | and when I find a problem, I'll be close to having to stop upgrading KVM | 23:37 |
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